1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal callahan. 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: You've heard of cat naps, but what do you know 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: about penguin naps? Turns out penguins may be better at 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 2: micro napping than cats or even college students, and they 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: definitely aren't culpable in the eradication of any other species 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: on our planet. Kim here, little kitty, Kitty, kitty. According 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: to a new study published in the journal Science, penguins 11 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: can take as many as ten thousand naps per day, 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: and these small sleeps last only a few seconds. Researchers 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: implanted devices into the head and neck muscles of fourteen 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: breeding chin strap pengu ones nesting on King George Island 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: in Antarctica. They combine this information with video recordings of 16 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: the birds, which makes this data especially robust. They found 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: that penguins knotted off more than ten thousand times per 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: day for an average of about four seconds. That equals 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: more than eleven hours of sleep in every twenty four 20 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: hour period, which is pretty good. For any kind of 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: bird or mammal. Humans are also able to sleep for 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: only a few seconds at a time, as you've experienced 23 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: if you've ever knotted off while driving. But before you 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: start planning micro naps as a strategy for getting through 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: Finals week, you should know that researchers discourage drawing conclusions 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: about how humans rest. From this study, five or ten 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: minute naps have been shown to benefit people, but it's 28 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: unlikely we get much out of the seconds long snooze. Penguins, 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: on the other hand, can stay rested using micro naps because, 30 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: like those cute little tuxedos they wear, they don't really 31 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: have any other choice. Sleeping for only a few seconds 32 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: at a time allows them to be watchful of predators, 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: which is especially important when they're staying put for weeks 34 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: at a time on top of a clutch of eggs. 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: So the next time you toss and turn all night 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: and your better half asks how'd you sleep, you can say, 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: just like a penguin, No living. 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: Creature has survived except the Fengland. 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: Hey, I know it's December twenty fourth when this episode releases, 40 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: so I just want to get some thank yous in there. 41 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: Some well wishes for a happy holiday. Hey, I really 42 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: do hope that you folks out there with families have 43 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful Christmas and New Year. Happy holidays 44 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: to you. I truly wish that you all get to 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: have the joy and happiness that I get when I 46 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: stare into the beautiful brown eyes of my bird dog 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: when she retrieves a rooster, a goose, or a duck. 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: Many of you may not get there, but I do 49 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: hope that is something that comes true for all of you. Big, big, 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: huge thank you to Phil Taylor, a man who's unbelievably 51 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: talented and chooses to spend those talents on us and 52 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: the Week in Review. Big huge thanks to Phil, And 53 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: big huge thanks to Jordan Sillers, the guy researches rights. 54 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: He's interesting, smart as a whip, and his work is 55 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: extremely prominent here on this podcast. So big thank you 56 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: to Jordan, big heart on that fellap, big brain to 57 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: match and get stuff done. So thank you both a ton, 58 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: and thank you to all the listeners out there who 59 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: subscribe to this here podcast and want to learn more 60 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: every week. Couldn't do it without you, huge part of 61 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: the show, and keep writing in we really appreciate it. 62 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: So Okay, enough with this stuff. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, 63 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: or whatever it is you celebrate, and on with the 64 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: show this week, the Crime Desk, Wolves Legislation, and the 65 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: Mail Desk. But first I'm going to tell you about 66 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: my week. 67 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: In. 68 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: My week was interesting, as always found out that the 69 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: tour bus life is not a great life. That's right, 70 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: I flew into Cleveland to join the Meat Eater Live Tour. 71 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: If you attended a show, thank you very much. You 72 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: were awesome. But the cycle of ending the show climbing 73 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: on the tour bus, which starts moving about one am 74 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: and stop sometime around five am, is not real conducive 75 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: to sleep or general health. Pretty conducive to beer drinking, which, 76 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: as we all travel independently so much, was a major plus. 77 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: Being trapped in a bus with a bunch of your 78 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: buddies is a great way to catch up on thanks. 79 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: Makes me really rethink the long held dream of mine 80 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: to have an autonomous vehicle that would transport myself and 81 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: the dog to hunting grounds. I'd be able to catch 82 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: up on my reading, make good meals, get a full 83 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: night's sleep, and arrive at the pre set destination, rested 84 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: and ready to hunt before shooting light. And that's why 85 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: they're dreams. Big highlight of the tour, aside from the 86 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: ghost stories that go with each venue that I've always been, 87 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: you know, keen on picking up was Lake Erie Walleye 88 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: fishing Pretty darn wild. How close to downtown Cleveland a 89 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: fella can pick up a limit of large walters. I 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: bring this up because that famous guy Jason that we 91 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: fished with who yelled out we got weights and fish 92 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: famously at the Lake Erie Walleye Attorney anyway, that that dude, 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: one of the pair of cheating Walleye anglers, Chase Kaminski, 94 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: was just sentenced up to twelve months in jail plus 95 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: four months on parole, and his son earned a year 96 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: of parole for passing off movie money as in not 97 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: legal tender at the ten Pin Bowling Alley there in 98 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Cuyahoga County forget an irrelement. More on that later, because 99 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: we're moving on to the crime desk. A Montana sheriff 100 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: fled guilty this month to illegally killing a mule deer buck. 101 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: Treasure County Sheriff Eil Seastrom killed the white tail buck 102 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: earlier in the season and tagged it with his general tag. 103 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: Later in November, Seastrom killed a mule deer buck, but 104 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: he tried to use his wife's tag to make it legal. 105 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: It's not clear how he was caught, but he was 106 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: ordered to pay a fine of eight hundred and seventy 107 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: dollars and had his license suspended for two years. He 108 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: issued a statement that said quote, I, like everyone else, 109 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: am human and make mistakes as well. What matters is 110 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: what we do after our mistakes. I have been taking 111 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: the necessary steps to hold myself accountable for my actions 112 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: and am accepting the consequences as they come. Seastrom was 113 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: elected as sheriff earlier this year. We'll see if the 114 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: voters take part in holding him accountable next time he's 115 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: up for election. Someone killed two bear cubs last month 116 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: in Oregon, left them to waste, and now the Oregon 117 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: State Police are asking the public to help them identify 118 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: the poachers. Details are still scarce, but the OSP says 119 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: that on November twenty seventh, a hunter reported finding it 120 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: dead bear cub just off us for a service Road 121 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: seventy seven in the Keating Wildlife Management Unit. Anyone with 122 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: knowledge of this incident is encouraged to contact the Oregon 123 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: State Police Dispatch. The Oregon Hunter's Association is offering a 124 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: six hundred dollars reward, and the Department of Fish and 125 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: Wildlife is offering four hunter preference points for information that 126 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: leads to an arrest or citation. Last year, two poachers 127 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: who shot a pair of bear cubs in Oregon were 128 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: ordered to pay fifteen thousand dollars in damages and lost 129 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: hunting privileges for three years. In New York, a Sullivan 130 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: County man and his wife receive citations for illegally killing 131 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: a buck and then purchasing tags after the fact. Officials 132 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: haven't released the man's name, but they found him because 133 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: he posted about it on social media. He shot the 134 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: four point buck in Wildlife Management Area three K, but 135 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: that WMA has an antler restriction of at least three 136 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: points on one side. They tracked the deer to a 137 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: local butcher shop, and the man admitted to calling his 138 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 2: wife to purchase a tag after the deer was already 139 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: on the ground. It's unclear whether he posted an image 140 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: of the deer on Facebook before or after calling his wife. 141 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: Up In Canada, a member of Parliament from Nova Scotia 142 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: says he's faced death threats for speaking out against an 143 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: organized elver poaching ring. Elvers unfortunately have nothing to do 144 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: with Santa Claus. Elvers are baby eels and there's a 145 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: huge demand for them in Asia, especially in China. They 146 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: can bring up to five thousand dollars per kilogram, and 147 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: an estimated twenty five tons have been illegally flown out 148 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: of Canada, according to the CBC. For those counting, that's 149 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: over one hundred and thirteen million dollars worth of the 150 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: small slippery river dwelling creatures. Legal elver fishermen told that 151 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: Canadian Parliament that they've been overrun with hundreds of poachers 152 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: who have flooded onto Nova Scotia and New Brunswick rivers. 153 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: One said he's seen or heard of members of this 154 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: organized poaching ring commit kidnapping, robbery, assault and gun violence. 155 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: He's accused government and law enforcement officials of not doing 156 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: enough to set the theft. For their part, the Department 157 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: of Fisheries and Oceans has said that fishery officers routinely 158 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: patrol the rivers and have made numerous arrests and seizures. 159 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Worth over one hundred million dollars. Apparently it hasn't been enough. 160 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: A pair of brothers in Massachusetts are in hot water 161 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: for their alleged roll and poaching a white tail deer 162 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: and a fox. Police were called after a resident of 163 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: the town of Coleraine found a dead deer in their 164 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: front yard. They said it was shot by someone riding 165 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: inside a gray Toyota Tacoma pickup truck. Officers stopped the 166 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: truck and detained forty six year old Ira Duel and 167 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: forty one year old Sef Duel. They found a fox 168 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: in the truck that had been shot and knocked over 169 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: the head, along with two rifles, two shotguns, a loaded handgun, 170 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: four muzzleoaders, and four thermal scopes. I don't know how 171 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: much you know about Massachusetts, but they don't look kindly 172 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: on illegal gun possession. Along with hunting from a vehicle 173 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: and hunting at night. The men were charged with carrying 174 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: a loaded shotgun or rifle in a vehicle and improper 175 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: storage of a firearm. Game wardens are also looking into 176 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: whether the dynamic duo have anything to do with other 177 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: poaching incidents that were allegedly perpetrated by someone driving a 178 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,479 Speaker 2: gray pickup truck, shooting muzzleloaders with thermal scopes and shotguns 179 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: and rifles could be them. Last one for you. Montana 180 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: game wardens are looking for someone who killed four bowl 181 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: elk in close proximity to one another, cut off the 182 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: heads and backstraps, and left the rest of the carcassis 183 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: to waste. The elk bodies were found on a hunting 184 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: area of the Yuland Ranch and Arco Block Management area 185 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: near Anaconda. Game Wardens believe they were killed sometime between Saturday, 186 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: November eighteen and Sunday, November nineteen. Anyone with information about 187 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: this incident is encouraged to get in touch with Montana Fish, 188 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: Wildlife and Parks. I got to say the Uland Ranch 189 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: has been, or at least this part of it has 190 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: been in Montana block management for a long long time, 191 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: and poachers are not hunters, and they don't reflect how 192 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: much we respect your property there and how thankful we 193 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: are for the legal means I access. Moving on to 194 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: the wolf Bachelor at Desk, a Mexican gray wolf he 195 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: wandered outside the official recovery area in southeast Arizona has 196 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: been captured and sent to the federal government's Wolf Management Facility. 197 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: Officials have known for months that the female wolf known 198 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 2: as F two seven five four had left Arizona and 199 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: across the high desert of central New Mexico and the 200 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: Bias Caldera National Preserve. She spent weeks moving between the 201 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: preserve and the San Pedro Mountains, but showed no sign 202 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: of returning to the recovery area, so wildlife officials flew 203 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: in with a helicopter, shot her with a tranquilizer, and 204 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: flew her back. Some protectionist groups had spoken out against 205 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: returning the wolf to the designated recovery area. They say 206 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: that dispersal is a natural part of finding new mates, 207 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: and that the wolf population needs fresh genes to survive. 208 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: That's genes with a G, not a J. Wolves, as 209 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: far as I'm aware, still don't wear pants. The Mexican 210 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: gray wolf saga is long and complicated, and if you're 211 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: interested in learning more, you can listen to the segment 212 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: we did with biologist Jim Heffelfinger in episode one sixty two. Basically, 213 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: protectionist groups argue that wolves should be allowed to live 214 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: in all places they ever have, no matter how it 215 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: impacts the people who live in those areas, or even 216 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: the wolves themselves. If Mexican gray wolves were allowed to 217 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: disperse and breed with Northern gray wolves, we might see 218 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: the Mexican wolf subspecies drowned out entirely. It's called genetic swamping. 219 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: Keeping these wolves in the designated recovery area prevents this 220 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: from happening, and it helps maintain public support for the 221 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: recovery program itself. It also protects this particular female wolf. 222 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: A biologist who spoke with the Associated Press pointed out 223 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: that since there are no other wolves in this area 224 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: of New Mexico, f two seven five four wouldn't have 225 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: been successful in her quest to find forever love. If 226 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: she managed to avoid cars and other predators, she would 227 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: have likely been mistaken for a coyote and shot. Instead, 228 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: she's getting to participate in her very own game of 229 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,599 Speaker 2: the bachelorette. You're probably wondering when I was going to 230 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 2: come back to the title of this one, Huh. She'll 231 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: have a choice between two male wolves who, in a 232 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: twist worthy of Days of Our Lives, also happen to 233 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: be brothers. If she fancies one of them and they mate, 234 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: their puppies will be placed in a litter of wild 235 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: puppies in a process called cross fostering. Those puppies are 236 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: way more likely to contribute to the gene pool and 237 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: grow the healthy population of Mexican wolves than letting their 238 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: mother wander around Central New Mexico by herself. Good luck 239 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: f two seven five four. The dating scene can get 240 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: pretty wild. Moving on to the legislative desk, a bill 241 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: recently introduced in the Florida legislature would allow residents to 242 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: kill black bears in self defense. You might be wondering 243 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: why the Sunshine State needs a law like this, as 244 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: in pretty much every state, it's already legal to kill 245 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: an animal if that animal is threatening you with death 246 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: or serious harm. Earlier this year, a Florida man killed 247 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: a black bear because he said it charged him, and 248 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: he did not get in any trouble because it was 249 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: deemed self defense. This bill sounds redundant, but it actually 250 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: expands the scope of situations in which Floridians can legally 251 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: kill black bears. The bill says that the bears can 252 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: be legally killed quote if a person feels threatened and 253 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: believes that using force is necessary to protect him or herself. 254 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: Feeling threatened is a much lower bar than fearing for 255 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: your life, which is usually the standard. When asked to 256 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: clarify what he meant by threatened, the bill's author, Representative 257 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: Jason Chauff, said quote, do you know it when it's happening? 258 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: And everybody that I know knows when they're being threatened. 259 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: Animal rights groups have come out in opposition to this bill, 260 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: and it's easy to imagine someone claiming to feel threatened 261 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: by a bear who just wanders into their yard. On 262 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: the other hand, Chauf says his constituents in North Florida 263 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: are facing an unprecedented number of black bears in their communities. 264 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: He says that one young girl has been bald, Bears 265 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: routinely break into homes, and many residents have hit bears 266 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: with their cars. He claims that attempts to manage the 267 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: bear population have been unsuccessful, and he's trying to give 268 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: his constituents a way to protect themselves. The bill expressly 269 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: excludes those who bait bears or incite them to attack, 270 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: and it only applies on private property. Residents won't be allowed, 271 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: in other words, to leave a pile of apples in 272 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: the woods and then when a bear shows up, claim 273 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: they were threatened. Those who kill a bear under this 274 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: statute will also not be allowed to keep any part 275 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: of the bear, and they must notify the Florida Wildlife 276 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: Commission within twenty four hours of an incident. I'm sure 277 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: hunters in Florida would love to step in and help 278 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: this problem, but bear hunting in Florida is a contentious issue. 279 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: Bears were removed from the state's threatened species list in 280 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: twenty twelve, and current estimates put the population at four 281 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: thoy fifty individuals. The state held a hunt in twenty fifteen, 282 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: but hunters reached their quotas after just two days. Rather 283 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: than be encouraged, that the population was even larger than expected, 284 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: which is a good assumption if a hunt goes well, 285 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: the general public freaked out, They hammered the commission with 286 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: angry messages, and the state hasn't held a hunt since. 287 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: One might argue that bills like this are the result 288 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: of a refusal to use hunting to manage a wild population. 289 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: Hunting doesn't resolve all bear conflicts, but it is a 290 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: useful tool in managing the number of bruins in a 291 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: particular area. Now it looks like the legislature might step 292 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: in with their own solution. The Agriculture Conservation Resiliency Subcommittee 293 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: passed this self defense bill on a twelve to four vote. 294 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: Now heads to the Agriculture and Natural Resources Appropriation Subcommittee. 295 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: We'll keep you in the loop there if you live 296 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: in Florida and would like to weigh in. The bill 297 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: number is HB eighty seven in the House and SB 298 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: six thirty two in the Senate. We'll post links at 299 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:54,119 Speaker 2: the meeteater dot com forward slash cow. The Massachusetts legislature 300 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: is once again considering lifting the ban on Sunday hunting. 301 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: Hunting rights advocates have successfully overturned in other states, but 302 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: Maine and Massachusetts have refused to budge. But hunters aren't alone. 303 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: Farmers in Massachusetts are also speaking out in favor of 304 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: lifting the band as deer densities rise far beyond objectives. 305 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: They're about one hundred thousand deer in the small state, 306 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: and some areas are seeing as many as fifty deer 307 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: per square mile. For context, most biologists consider a healthy 308 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: deer density to be in the five to fifteen range. 309 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: Farmers say that this overpopulation, combined with drought, have eliminated 310 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: much of the forage in the surrounding forests and deer 311 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: decimating their crops. Opponents of lifting the Sunday hunting band 312 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: say that hunters can already hunt six days during the week, 313 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: even though hunting in Massachusetts is limited to archery, shotguns, 314 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: and primitive firearms. Some say they are afraid of getting 315 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: shot during the hunting season. They like being able to 316 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: hike or bike on Sundays without having to be worried 317 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: about running into someone else trying to stock a deer. 318 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: They also say that if the goal is to lower 319 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: the deer population, one extra day isn't going to do 320 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: much good. Hunters, on the other hand, point out that 321 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: no non hunter in Massachusetts has ever been injured from 322 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: archery hunting or killed from hunting of any kind. While 323 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: one more day a week might not sound like much, 324 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: it could double the amount of time many hunters spend 325 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: in the woods. If you're limited to hunting only on 326 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: the weekends, as many hunters are, adding one extra day 327 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: could dramatically increase the number of deer taken during the year. 328 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: Bills to remove the Sunday hunting band come up in 329 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: Massachusetts almost every year, and they haven't been successful so far. 330 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: We'll see if anything changes this year. If you'd like 331 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: to weigh in, there are two bills right now in 332 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: the House. H eight seven seven and H nine to 333 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: one to two. Get in touch with your state reps 334 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: and let them know that it's time to join forty 335 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: eight other states and let hunters hunt all seven days 336 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: of the week. Up in Vermont, legislators are considering a 337 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: bill that would make it illegal to use dogs to 338 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: hunt coyotes or black bears. Current laws allow hunters to 339 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 2: use dogs to go after bold species as long as 340 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: they obtain a permit from the Game Commission. H three 341 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: twenty three, authored by Rep. Larry Sakkowitz, eliminates the method 342 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: of take from state law with no exceptions. Oddly, sack 343 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: Kowitz's bill still allows hunters to use dogs to go 344 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: after rabbits, game birds, raccoons, bobcats, and foxes. I guess 345 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: those animals aren't as important to the legislator. Moving on 346 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 2: to the mail desk, Americans aren't the only ones concerned 347 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: about changes to hunting and fishing regulations. Listener Scott Patterson 348 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: wrote in to tell me about a new bill in 349 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: Scotland that ended all closed seasons for mail deer in 350 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: the country. In other words, Scottish hunters can now legally 351 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: shoot mail, red seka and road deer year round. Scott 352 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: is a recreational hunter who manages a small area of 353 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: a newly established woodland, and he's happy about the rule 354 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: because it allows him to keep the population on his 355 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: property in check and control damage from browsing. However, he 356 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: says that Scottish gamekeepers and landowners are in an uproar, 357 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 2: which could be a real joke when you know red 358 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: snakes roar. Anyway, they're worried that all mail deer will 359 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: be shot in the name of landscape management. If that happens, 360 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: it will be more difficult for them to market the 361 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: guided hunts they sell to make a living. But Scott 362 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: points out the areas where deer are a problem have 363 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: always had permits to coal mail deer during the off season. 364 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: This decision by the government, he says, just reduces paperwork 365 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: and unnecessary red tape. It also worth noting that this 366 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: new law doesn't require game managers to shoot mail deer. 367 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: Sporting estates have already said they plan to continue following 368 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: the traditional seasons, so those populations at least won't be affected. 369 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: Good luck to all of our fellow hunters in Scotland. 370 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: I've never tried hagis from wild game, but I hear 371 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: it's delicious. Hegus for all you other Callahans out there, 372 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: is the national dish of Scotland. It's a meat pudding 373 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: made from a sheep's heart, lungs and liver, mixed with 374 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: oatmeal and spices. 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