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Speaker 1: The SEC Commissioner Greg Sanke will join us. Coming up.
Speaker 1: I just saw this. There's a new Name Image and
Speaker 1: Likeness Bill that is being drafted and it is detailed.
Speaker 1: There's the threat of perjury for non compliance. So this
Speaker 1: was obtained by Yahoo Sports and this is a draft
Speaker 1: right now for Name Image and Likeness. Prohibits collectives from
Speaker 1: entering into name image likeness deals with athletes until they're
Speaker 1: enrolled in school for ninety days, outlaws tampering with other
Speaker 1: teams athletes, and creates a public facing database of figures
Speaker 1: from NIL deals across college sports. Also, the draft targets collectives,
Speaker 1: requiring them to register with an independent third party responsible
Speaker 1: for seeing name overseeing name, image and likeness part of
Speaker 1: the registration process, collectives would have to disclose their registry
Speaker 1: of donors under penalty of perjury. The draft states collectives
Speaker 1: are expected to provide the following in the application process,
Speaker 1: the name and contact information of any donor who contributed
Speaker 1: to the fund. Okay, Greg zank I think he said
Speaker 1: he's on record as saying the only way to fix
Speaker 1: NIL is with the help of Congress. He'll join us
Speaker 1: coming up.
Speaker 2: Yes, Pop, that stuff actually sounds pretty good. It's more
Speaker 2: about controlling the nuance around it, who's doing what and when,
Speaker 2: maybe not allowing NIL before they get to campus. It
Speaker 2: doesn't appear that any athlete will be capped in what
Speaker 2: they can make by if you've read through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just want to know where things are coming
Speaker 1: from and when. And yes, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can wait ninety days like that one. I had
Speaker 1: to laugh a little bit about, like, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: we can't do anything with name, image and likeness prior
Speaker 1: to you getting on campus.
Speaker 3: We have to wait ninety days and just before the
Speaker 3: holiday season, you'll all be flesh with cash.
Speaker 1: Right around Thanksgiving, you're going to be killing it. Dude, Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 2: Well that will really. I mean NIL was not supposed
Speaker 2: to be used as an inducement for recruiting. You're not
Speaker 2: supposed to have an an ildal before you come to campus, yes,
Speaker 2: because that is using ANIL to recruit. So if you
Speaker 2: do that, now you're putting the athlete position to commit
Speaker 2: to a school. And if they start their freshman year,
Speaker 2: they get certain nine ails, if they're six string, they
Speaker 2: get certain nils.
Speaker 1: You think that this is actually going to happen, that
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to pull this off where
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to your school with the promise
Speaker 1: of a name, image and likeness deal. But I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what it's going to be when I start.
Speaker 2: It'll have to be phone conversations and handshake deals.
Speaker 1: The old days, I wouldn't even do a phone call.
Speaker 1: I do something in person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Seed, it feels like the biggest red flag on
Speaker 3: here for why it won't pass is the registered list
Speaker 3: of donors. Yeah, my go ahead, And I guess there's
Speaker 3: going to be some people pushing back on that idea.
Speaker 1: Probably, so Yeah. The NFL season kicks off on Thursday night.
Speaker 1: It'll be Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs hosting the New
Speaker 1: and Improved Detroit Lions Thursday. That's on NBC and Peacock.
Speaker 1: We have a maybe retirement in the NFL palling.
Speaker 2: This player I think just announces retirement on social media.
Speaker 1: Okay, do we need to hit the music or a
Speaker 1: drum roll or I'm going to give you guys a hint,
Speaker 1: going to say, Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 2: He still hasn't announced it.
Speaker 1: No, he hasn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna give you a big hint. This player
Speaker 2: is everyone knows him, not everyone has seen him play,
Speaker 2: but everyone knows him.
Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph, No, good guess also just retired.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows this player, but not a lot of people
Speaker 2: have seen him play.
Speaker 1: They know him. Ben Coates, he.
Speaker 2: Was recently on this show. He was on the show
Speaker 2: in the past month. I think, yeah, definitely in the
Speaker 2: past month. He's known for making a lot of money
Speaker 2: and not throwing a lot of touchdown passes.
Speaker 3: Oh no, Chase Daniel d.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's retired, but he's excited to announce.
Speaker 2: He's starting his media career at NFL Network. He's doing
Speaker 2: some stuff for the athletic. He's going to have a podcast.
Speaker 2: I thought his podcast can be named back it Up,
Speaker 2: like you got to back up what you say? He
Speaker 2: was a notorious backup. Okay, do you want to follow
Speaker 2: that up with? If his career is over? How much
Speaker 2: did Chase Daniel make to play in about start about
Speaker 2: six games?
Speaker 1: I would probably call my podcast Clipboard and Advisor, Clipboard
Speaker 1: and Advisor a cop show? How much? How much did
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel make in his.
Speaker 2: Career fourteen seasons in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Now, didn't he make Travis? Wait, he made Derrick Henry money.
Speaker 1: Didn't he remember that one? Yes?
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just two million dollars?
Speaker 2: Okay, stay with it, save it. He was two and
Speaker 2: three as a starter. He played in fourteen seasons.
Speaker 1: Could have gone either way.
Speaker 2: He played in most of those seasons. He only had
Speaker 2: one season where he did not take a snap. Chase Daniel,
Speaker 2: what was your guess again?
Speaker 1: Forty two million?
Speaker 2: Take the rest of the day off? He made forty
Speaker 2: one to eight.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're rounding up?
Speaker 2: Hello, we round up in this game.
Speaker 3: Do you know who paid him the most money?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: Out of the Saints, Chiefs, Eagles, Bears, Lions, and Chargers.
Speaker 3: The season's at the Eagles picked up eleven.
Speaker 1: Mil okay, right worth every penny on. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: there's a chance The Manning Cast is going to have
Speaker 1: a co host, a new co host? But is it
Speaker 1: a co if there's three, is it a try host
Speaker 1: a triumvirate?
Speaker 2: Do you want to play the Manning Cast game?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't know they needed like a facilitator. I
Speaker 1: thought that they were looking at Kyle Brandt from an
Speaker 1: NFL network or chef dy.
Speaker 2: When they had initially auditioned the show, it was going
Speaker 2: to be a host with the two Mannings. And then
Speaker 2: the two Mannings did it themselves for a while and
Speaker 2: they said, let's just do the two Mannings. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: here's the guess. Will they have a new host and
Speaker 2: who will it be? Or b it's just a bit
Speaker 2: for promotion and social media. Oh I'm gonna go be But.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think you need one. But if you like,
Speaker 1: Kyle brand is really talented, he is, he is fun
Speaker 1: and he does work for Omaha Omaha Productions. Schefty wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a host. I know that they talked about Adam Schefter.
Speaker 1: I think McAfee McAfee, but he might be stretched too thin.
Speaker 1: Do you have a comedian.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's only one natural answer.
Speaker 1: Hello, And I'm not gonna do it. That's not why
Speaker 1: you're retired. No, No, I would guarantee that Peyton and
Speaker 1: I by the end of the season would be at
Speaker 1: each other's throats. We'd be mad at each other for
Speaker 1: something because I would say something. You know, because Eli
Speaker 1: is very you know, he's docile, he's fun, you know,
Speaker 1: he gives a little. We would team up and rough
Speaker 1: up Peyton, I would think, and he probably wouldn't like now.
Speaker 1: I know he wouldn't like that. He went years without
Speaker 1: talking to me after he redid his deal with the
Speaker 1: Colts and I said, did you think about maybe taking
Speaker 1: less money so you could re sign Edgar and James
Speaker 1: and somebody else. I did that live on Sports Center.
Speaker 1: He didn't talk to me for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: I think. I think it's coopa coopa.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get the other Manning, bro that's a good guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see Cooper Manning getting in there. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Last Night Omaha Productions put out a tweet that
Speaker 2: had Peyton sitting with his midriff completely pointing towards the camera.
Speaker 2: Now the region. I mean the guy is bringing it.
Speaker 1: He is retired.
Speaker 2: I retire from bringing it.
Speaker 1: That's retirement right there. I am no longer bringing it.
Speaker 2: Shirt tucked in and he's looking at it, says third
Speaker 2: host Auditions, Confidential manning cast. Then they put out a
Speaker 2: video today.
Speaker 1: And they had all how can it be confidential if
Speaker 1: you're telling it, it's confident, telling us it's confidential.
Speaker 2: And they put out a video this morning from auctions
Speaker 2: and it had all the third host auditions, Jared Goff
Speaker 2: and Mike McDaniel, the coach of the Miami, all different people.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a bit Brady.
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, that is funny. Okay, Seaton just brought up
Speaker 1: something to me. Seton goes Now, I'm got I'm paraphrasing here,
Speaker 1: so correct me if it needed. Would you rather have
Speaker 1: made the Kyler Murray contract mistake or the Trey Lance
Speaker 1: drafting Trey Lance mistake? Is that? Is that sort of
Speaker 1: what you were saying?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Like which is worse?
Speaker 1: Which one is worse?
Speaker 3: Giving Kyler Murray a bunch of money and having it
Speaker 3: not work out or giving up all of those draft
Speaker 3: picks for Trey Lance and never really even giving him
Speaker 3: a chance.
Speaker 1: I would rather have made the Trey Lance mistake than
Speaker 1: the Kyler Murray mistake.
Speaker 3: Even though you look at who those picks turned.
Speaker 1: Into, Micah Parsons. But they're so good they could make
Speaker 1: up for that mistake. I mean, Kyler Murray's contract's not horrible.
Speaker 1: I just never I would have said, prove it one
Speaker 1: more year. When you put language in a contract that says, hey, dude,
Speaker 1: less video games and prepare a little bit more.
Speaker 2: That's a contract to give a twelve year old boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would give that to my son. Yeah, less
Speaker 1: video how about we do some schoolwork there.
Speaker 3: At less screen time and a little more.
Speaker 1: And that you can put a device on these computers
Speaker 1: or these laptops and you go, hey, we know how
Speaker 1: many times you open this up to watch game film?
Speaker 1: Zero point zero zero. That's not a guy I want
Speaker 1: to invest in. He's just so good that he was
Speaker 1: able to get by with just God given ability. You
Speaker 1: can't do that in the NFL. Todd beston Worse to
Speaker 1: the Weekend.
Speaker 7: My best in the Weekend, even though it's kind of obvious,
Speaker 7: I had to go with giving it to Chadors Sanders
Speaker 7: and the Buffalos going into TCU three touchdown underdogs forty five,
Speaker 7: forty two fifty five hundred and ten passing yards for
Speaker 7: TDS worst Baylor losing on their home field in Waco
Speaker 7: to those Texas State Bobcats forty two to thirty one.
Speaker 8: Not good.
Speaker 1: Chaudor Sanders had this to say about the difference between
Speaker 1: playing at Jackson State and Colorado.
Speaker 4: I'll say the only difference between fcs in this level
Speaker 4: is the d line get off blocks. If you try
Speaker 4: to scramble up faster.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 4: Everything else, you got good players, you got good dbs,
Speaker 4: good receivers, everything like that. You just have more of
Speaker 4: those on a field at once. People fear names. I
Speaker 4: don't fear names because I really don't care. But that's
Speaker 4: the biggest thing. When you fear names and you let
Speaker 4: that's half the battle, you already losing. Dang we playing TCU.
Speaker 4: I respect the university, I respect everything about them, but personally,
Speaker 4: I just never cared about names.
Speaker 1: Okay, see no Connor best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 3: I've never thought of TCU as a name that struck
Speaker 3: fear into the hearts of them.
Speaker 1: Really, but not really, Okay, I could see where you're going.
Speaker 3: My best of the weekend you're Duke Blue Devil's knocking
Speaker 3: off Clemson. Gosh, was that enjoyable to watch number nine
Speaker 3: ranked Clemson losing.
Speaker 1: That's a ton of fun.
Speaker 3: My worst of the weekend, though, is Duke, if you're
Speaker 3: going to be with these gigantic upsets, you have quite
Speaker 3: possibly the worst helmets ever of all time in sports.
Speaker 3: That duke helmet is horrible. It looks like somebody just
Speaker 3: made it up that day, like, oh crap, we got
Speaker 3: a game quick. Somebody put together some helmets like they
Speaker 3: bought it at like medieval times or something. That is
Speaker 3: a terrible, terrible helmet. If you guys are going to
Speaker 3: be knocking off the likes of Clemson, you got to
Speaker 3: figure out a better uniform, damn it.
Speaker 1: So the script Duke you don't like that.
Speaker 3: Is horrible, ugliest helmet in football.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I know, it's saying after you text, I
Speaker 2: did a deep dive on the duke helmet. The other
Speaker 2: problem is it's playing, but not good playing, and the
Speaker 2: duke on the helmet is not the same color as
Speaker 2: the blue on their pants, so they don't even match,
Speaker 2: which is a huge, full mess.
Speaker 1: What a mess. Good football though, Marvin Best and worst
Speaker 1: of the weekend.
Speaker 9: Best of the weekend, Colorado's uniforms, the all white they
Speaker 9: were wearing the retro don Nikes too. Chef's kiss, that's
Speaker 9: right from the polypat School of Uniforms. Worst of the weekend.
Speaker 9: The rest of the college football slate for Week one,
Speaker 9: as far as the top teams Georgia, Alabama, and Michigan.
Speaker 8: Schedule better.
Speaker 9: No, thank you ut Martin Tennessee State, and I liked
Speaker 9: him when he played for the volunteers.
Speaker 2: That is very good.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They named a university after another quarterback title, right, Ut Martin.
Speaker 9: He was a drafted before Tom Brady too, PAULI.
Speaker 1: Best and worst of the week.
Speaker 2: I got a few positive ones. Florida State second half. Man,
Speaker 2: they open it up on LSU. It's nice to know
Speaker 2: they stuck with Mike Norvell. He won his last six
Speaker 2: games last year, you know, really finished well. The other
Speaker 2: best Wyoming Cowboys taking down Texas Tech in overtime. Great
Speaker 2: unis great win late night. Yeah, and my worst of
Speaker 2: the weekend, which is odd because you know how much
Speaker 2: I like Army football. Dan Army football lost to the
Speaker 2: ul Monroe Warhawks, which is, you know, they're solid football,
Speaker 2: but Army usually does pretty well in these games. They
Speaker 2: lost seventeen thirteen. Army attempted twelve passes.
Speaker 1: What is going on?
Speaker 2: I had heard a story, I actually read a little
Speaker 2: story this summer that they were going to open up
Speaker 2: the offensive pass more. It's very troubling. I watched the
Speaker 2: entire game. They only ran the ball fifty times, which
Speaker 2: is embarrassing. And let's put this way. They're on pace
Speaker 2: this year for one hundred and fifty pass attempts. Okay,
Speaker 2: that doesn't sound like a lot. They threw forty two
Speaker 2: times last season in thirteen games, so they're tripling their passing.
Speaker 1: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel.
Speaker 1: Good because the odds are you're not going to get
Speaker 1: a great passing quarterback at West Point and you're not
Speaker 1: going to get great receivers there. You're going to get
Speaker 1: good lineman and you have a scheme there it works,
Speaker 1: and now you're going to open things up.
Speaker 2: I need a option.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I knew you'd be upset.
Speaker 1: Anything else.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it, all right. Ryan in South Dakota. Then we'll
Speaker 1: take a break. Greg Sankei, the SEC Commissioner, will join us.
Speaker 1: Hey Ryan morning, Dan Morning, Ryan.
Speaker 8: Hey Hey.
Speaker 10: I'm a daily listener to the program and also a
Speaker 10: proud passer of anywhere between eight and ten kidney stones.
Speaker 10: Tod's been talking this morning about this stint that he's
Speaker 10: got in and how it makes him want to pee
Speaker 10: all the time. Does I'm wondering, does Todd know that
Speaker 10: that stint's got to come out? And have they told
Speaker 10: him how they retrieve that, Because I'm telling you, after
Speaker 10: having it done, there's no dignified way to do it.
Speaker 10: And I think it might be a good time for
Speaker 10: you guys to have a broadcast maybe from the procedure room.
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, I've had the procedure done right. It's humbling.
Speaker 1: Yes See.
Speaker 3: If I may be so bold as to answer this
Speaker 3: for Todd, not only and correctly if I'm wrong, Not
Speaker 3: only has Todd been through this procedure many times, I
Speaker 3: believe his wife has removed that stint before at home
Speaker 3: because he was just so sick of having it.
Speaker 8: You have a fantastic memory.
Speaker 7: And when my current eurologists found out that my wife
Speaker 7: pulled out the left one from this string.
Speaker 8: He was shocked to hear that.
Speaker 7: I don't know if that's a malpractice thing, but my
Speaker 7: previous eurologist allowed that to happen. And according to this eurologist,
Speaker 7: there is no way that a family member in your
Speaker 7: house should be pulling a rubber tube out of you.
Speaker 8: And that's got to be done, I guess in the
Speaker 8: doctor's office.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, she did do.
Speaker 8: That, which I you know, that's if that's not love.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know if love, does it come back.
Speaker 7: To me something She saw that I was in that
Speaker 7: much pain, and the doctor allowed that it was it
Speaker 7: was giving me that much pain.
Speaker 8: I didn't have to wait till the next day or
Speaker 8: a few days.
Speaker 6: Wait.
Speaker 1: Maybe she disappoint wants to shut you off. It's possible, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, come here, let me pull that out.
Speaker 1: It is very humbling when you have to stand there
Speaker 1: in front of the doctor and he does.
Speaker 7: I don't care about humblic budd it's actually kind of painful.
Speaker 7: I just want to pull that thing out as soon
Speaker 7: as possible. I don't watch it coming out of me.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to look at that.
Speaker 1: How about we take a break. We got the sec
Speaker 1: Commissioner Greg sank you. I want to know what he
Speaker 1: What was his reaction when the Notre Dame Athletic director
Speaker 1: Jack Swarbrick joined us in Dublin and talked about the
Speaker 1: mess that is college football. So we'll talk to the
Speaker 1: SEC commissioner. Coming up more phone calls as well, JJ,
Speaker 1: what will join us on the program tomorrow? Is that right? Tom?
Speaker 8: That is absolutely correct?
Speaker 1: Okay? Is it correct? Or absolutely correct?
Speaker 8: Absolutely correctly? JJ Watt will be a guest in the day. Question.
Speaker 1: Take a break. We're back after this Thursday night football.
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Speaker 1: is the Commissioner of the sec S. Greg sank you
Speaker 1: joined us on the program. How many games did you
Speaker 1: go to in the last week four.
Speaker 6: And week zero? I was at bandage, So I'm five
Speaker 6: games into my season already.
Speaker 1: Do you tailgate?
Speaker 6: No, I've us a bit of a hazard for me
Speaker 6: walking through tailcase. Most you know, people when they're together,
Speaker 6: are actually really nice in person. On social media.
Speaker 1: Maybe, well, you know, commissioners always get booed. Get do
Speaker 1: you get bowed?
Speaker 6: It's happened a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 6: I was at the LSU National championship celebration and smattering.
Speaker 6: But you know, most people are really kind. And I
Speaker 6: reminded him it was the first year that the conference
Speaker 6: had approved beer sales in Tiger Stadium, which resulted in
Speaker 6: a great, great positive roar. So you just got to
Speaker 6: know how to play the game if you're made.
Speaker 1: How would you recap the summer for college football?
Speaker 6: Oh? Wow, I will say this year, You know, July
Speaker 6: fourth weekend was quiet, which is unlike the last five years.
Speaker 6: So we had the chance to celebrate celebrate July fourth
Speaker 6: without the cell the cell phone in hand, but certainly
Speaker 6: a time of change. I think the pressures there there.
Speaker 6: I saw I saw Jack last week. I expressed my disappointment.
Speaker 6: I was not on set in Doublin with you and
Speaker 6: Will Ferrell, but we'll do it by zoom and you know,
Speaker 6: he expressed a perspective I probably wouldn't describe it quite
Speaker 6: with those same terms. But it's a time of change,
Speaker 6: time under pressure, a time that has a level of
Speaker 6: discomfort across college football and really, I think all of
Speaker 6: college sports.
Speaker 1: In case people what the commissioners. Referring to Jack Sporbrick,
Speaker 1: the athletic director at Notre Dame, had this to say
Speaker 1: two weeks ago in Ireland. Can you sum up what's
Speaker 1: happening with college football in the last where would you start?
Speaker 5: Complete disaster?
Speaker 1: How did we get here? Jack?
Speaker 5: I wish I knew, And listen, I'm not everybody in
Speaker 5: the industry has to take responsibility here. I'm not excluding
Speaker 5: myself from that. I think the decision making has lost
Speaker 5: its way in terms of the focus on the student
Speaker 5: athlete and what's primarily best for them. But we are
Speaker 5: where we are and we have to try and make
Speaker 5: it work. I mean, we've been pretty vocal in the
Speaker 5: past month about we need to find a home for
Speaker 5: Stanford and Cal that you can't have two of the
Speaker 5: great academic institutions in the world not have a place
Speaker 5: of play.
Speaker 1: How do you think Jack got to this bottom line there?
Speaker 6: Well, I thought his follow on comment was really important,
Speaker 6: the observations about shared responsibility, about decision making. We all
Speaker 6: look at reality from our perspectives, and the Southeastern Conference
Speaker 6: has made decisions over the last few years, the addition
Speaker 6: of Oklahoma and Texas, for example, that actually did contemplate
Speaker 6: the student athlete experience, our ability to add ninety five
Speaker 6: miles to our geography, but elevate our competitive experience, bring
Speaker 6: in national champions and challenge ourselves. But you know, we've
Speaker 6: historically been slow to adapt in college athletics. That's not new.
Speaker 6: That's not like this decade or this generation's issue. We
Speaker 6: now have a set of external pressures that I think
Speaker 6: are part of Jack's observation that created this. So we
Speaker 6: have state legislatures making laws and dictating how we will
Speaker 6: run athletic programs. We have interest from Congress. I'm not
Speaker 6: clear that there's a commitment to help restore a national standard.
Speaker 6: We have change in the NCAA. I've appreciated Charlie Baker,
Speaker 6: but we're still dealing with a bureaucracy that is slow
Speaker 6: to adapt to modern realities, and at the same time,
Speaker 6: on our campuses and in our conference office, we have
Speaker 6: to adapt to those modern realities every day. So, Dan,
Speaker 6: I think that's a combination of frustration you heard, but
Speaker 6: also the change that's inherent in our society right now.
Speaker 1: What concerns you more name image and likeness or the
Speaker 1: transfer portal?
Speaker 6: I would say the ecosystem. If you have the environment
Speaker 6: that's developed around name, image and likeness, going back to
Speaker 6: twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, that label would have been envisioned
Speaker 6: in a certain way, and we have any number of
Speaker 6: student athletes. You think about Bryce Young and doctor Pepperads
Speaker 6: and Olivia Dunn and Viori commercials. I mean, that's what
Speaker 6: it was. We had football lineman telling us about a
Speaker 6: car wash deal that they have for all their pickup trucks,
Speaker 6: and that's normal activity. What's happened is it's become a
Speaker 6: recruiting inducement. It's allowed outside influences boosters, if you will,
Speaker 6: And now collectives that we've held off from being involved
Speaker 6: in recruiting, they've entered this realm. And I think bottom line,
Speaker 6: what that means is one we've shifted control of our
Speaker 6: athletics programs away from campus leaders who do have an
Speaker 6: accountability structure. We also have created questions of hey, when
Speaker 6: I'm student athlete from Team A lining up against the
Speaker 6: competitor from tem B, are we actually playing by the
Speaker 6: same rules? And that's where we have to have the
Speaker 6: restoration of a national center. That's happened around this name,
Speaker 6: image and likeness space, and it's developed in a way
Speaker 6: that's not exactly what would have been envisioned as I
Speaker 6: described four or five years ago.
Speaker 1: What's the craziest amount of money you've heard that a
Speaker 1: player is getting?
Speaker 6: Well, I read the media accounts and I actually don't
Speaker 6: believe what I read. So you've seen multiple, multiple millions.
Speaker 6: I questioned whether that's true because people involved in this
Speaker 6: nil space, third parties agents NIL reps are incentivized to
Speaker 6: inflate the number. And you asked about nil or transfer portal,
Speaker 6: so I had to pick one. But what we have
Speaker 6: is a layering of the issue, so more transfer freedom,
Speaker 6: which that's our reality, but it's been layered with the
Speaker 6: ability to go out and inflate numbers, and so I
Speaker 6: think there has to be care in believing the numbers
Speaker 6: that one sees publicly.
Speaker 1: He's the commissioner of the SEC. Greg Sank finished the sentence.
Speaker 1: If the SEC didn't bring in Oklahoma and Texas.
Speaker 6: Would have been a lot more pressure on me the
Speaker 6: last few weeks, a lot more questions, and from my perspective,
Speaker 6: our decision than twenty one has been shown to have
Speaker 6: been really wise to see vision. And one of the
Speaker 6: cool things just from the time we're talking is Texas
Speaker 6: will be playing Alabama this Saturday, which is I think
Speaker 6: a sign or an indication into our future and the
Speaker 6: excitement around these competitions in a sixteen team SEC.
Speaker 1: But this sort of started the game of musical chairs,
Speaker 1: didn't it.
Speaker 6: Texas Oklahoma, Well, I think you have to go back
Speaker 6: to expansion in the early two thousandstand. I mean, that's reality.
Speaker 6: So the Big East losing three members initially to the
Speaker 6: ACC and then a member to the Big Ten, three
Speaker 6: more members to the ACC it dissolved. That seemed to
Speaker 6: be a time very different than than what we had
Speaker 6: experienced before, when for instance, Arkansas and South Carolina joined,
Speaker 6: or Penn joined the SEC, or Penn State joined the
Speaker 6: Big Ten. You then had the Pack ten at the
Speaker 6: time trying to grow to the Pack sixteen that created change.
Speaker 6: A year later we went from twelve to fourteen. So
Speaker 6: I don't think you can go back to just the
Speaker 6: summer of twenty one. The summer of twenty one was different.
Speaker 6: But one of the questions my presidents asked me is
Speaker 6: we were considering the growth is what does the Big
Speaker 6: twelve do? So the Big twelve had opportunities to add members,
Speaker 6: it went is the Big twelve from ten to fourteen
Speaker 6: and then to twelve when Oklahoma moves. What happened this
Speaker 6: summer is different. So the decisions to go in a
Speaker 6: very different geographic direction. Some of that happened in twenty two.
Speaker 6: I'd submit, when you look over time, those are a
Speaker 6: little bit different. But if people ot to point the
Speaker 6: finger at our expansion, I'll take that responsibility. I will
Speaker 6: just note, and I think you and I've probably discussed
Speaker 6: it way back in twenty fifteen. I offered some perspectives
Speaker 6: to our presidents. That was my first meeting as commissioner.
Speaker 6: That change was coming around the twenty to twenty three
Speaker 6: twenty four cycle when these media agreements were renegotiated, and
Speaker 6: that was pretty prophetic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I under couldn't we keep the football? Couldn't we
Speaker 1: keep the PAC twelve playing football against the PAC twelve?
Speaker 1: Why do we have to bring all the other sports
Speaker 1: to these other conferences. I'm trying to understand the geography
Speaker 1: so you don't have to disrupt the PAC twelve.
Speaker 6: I've been asked that question a couple of times. My
Speaker 6: response is usually I'm the least qualified one to answer.
Speaker 6: Since when we expanded, we had about ninety five miles
Speaker 6: to our geography. I think it could have remained decisions
Speaker 6: made by campus decision makers and conference decision makers. I
Speaker 6: think there were public observations dating back to the summer
Speaker 6: of twenty two about potential movement. You have different people
Speaker 6: and commissioner roles, you have different perspectives on traditions or
Speaker 6: traditional alignments. That's what seems to have provided these opportunities.
Speaker 6: Are these opportunities for change, I think the PAC twelve
Speaker 6: could have resided and embedded in the question is a
Speaker 6: bid of the observation we've seen. Just let football operate
Speaker 6: on its own, and I've said, and I'll say to you,
Speaker 6: we operate athletic departments. Football, at least at this point,
Speaker 6: is not divorced from everything else we do and maybe
Speaker 6: may be different. The stadiums are bigger than the arenas,
Speaker 6: but for us, we view the connectedness that there are
Speaker 6: relationships with our athletics departments that are healthy. And you
Speaker 6: know what, in the Southeastern Conference, we've got huge football games,
Speaker 6: we have huge baseball games relative to the rest of
Speaker 6: the world. I think those reflect on each other and
Speaker 6: build the intensity, the rivalries and the interests, just like
Speaker 6: basketball and volleyball and softball do. And I don't want
Speaker 6: us to sacrifice that for what becomes a short term solution. Lastly,
Speaker 6: on this break football out idea, I don't know how
Speaker 6: you'd ever tell a football player, and you know, last
Speaker 6: year we had the first round draft pick in the
Speaker 6: NFL draft, first round in Major League Baseball, collegian picked
Speaker 6: in the NBA draft, and the first draft pick in
Speaker 6: the WNBA. I don't know how you say to the
Speaker 6: football player, we can do a B and C for you,
Speaker 6: But to the basketball player men and women, and the
Speaker 6: baseball player, even though you're going to be a draft
Speaker 6: pick who's going to make a bunch of money, we
Speaker 6: can't do these things because you know, we're stuck in
Speaker 6: this other organization.
Speaker 1: College football needs a boss.
Speaker 6: Right, Well, that's one way to ask the question, do
Speaker 6: we all go back to the summer of twenty if
Speaker 6: we had all said somebody else is going to make
Speaker 6: the decision for the Southeastern Conference about whether we play
Speaker 6: in the fall of twenty, I don't see that working
Speaker 6: terribly well. So it's a it's a simple observation with
Speaker 6: a set of complexities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, But I think, look, I'm
Speaker 1: a traditionalist, like I want these rivalries. I want to
Speaker 1: make sure that we have some kind of fiscal sanity here.
Speaker 1: Just everybody's got to go and get get their money.
Speaker 1: That's what concerns me. You know, nobody's concerned about that
Speaker 1: that these schools are leaving getting more money. But then
Speaker 1: the kids want to go and get more money, and
Speaker 1: then we have a bigger problem with that. It feels
Speaker 1: like then we do, hey, game of musical chairs, let's
Speaker 1: sit down before there's no chairs left.
Speaker 6: Well, and I'll go back to some of the comments.
Speaker 6: So we aren't always consistent in our messaging. Right, So
Speaker 6: I had coaches you said, wow, you know people just move, Well,
Speaker 6: they have to wait. So Oklahoma and Texas we announced
Speaker 6: in twenty one, they had to wait three years. You know,
Speaker 6: there's no student athlete in the transfer portal who waits
Speaker 6: three years. We complain about three months now. So from
Speaker 6: a philosophic consistency, I think some of these quick sound
Speaker 6: bites aren't accurate to reality. For us, I'm going to
Speaker 6: go back to the conversations I had with the president
Speaker 6: at Oklahoma and the president of Texas. It was, we've
Speaker 6: watched how your conference's function, We've watched how it's made decisions,
Speaker 6: We've watched how you led. We want to be a
Speaker 6: part of that. I actually think to your point, if
Speaker 6: you put the money in front of every other element
Speaker 6: of decision making, you don't make good decisions in life,
Speaker 6: whether that's personally or professionally. And so for us, we
Speaker 6: looked at the right affiliations, the right geography, the ability
Speaker 6: to restore rivalries. You think about Texas and Texas, A
Speaker 6: and M playing again. Oklahoma Missouri were part of the
Speaker 6: Big Eight. Texas and Arkansas is a legendary game. We
Speaker 6: do disrupt some things, but we actually restore more. That's
Speaker 6: actually a unique conference expansion template relative to what's happening
Speaker 6: around us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got less problem with the SEC than I
Speaker 1: do some of these you know, other conferences that you know,
Speaker 1: no need to mention names here.
Speaker 6: So now I'll take that as a compliment this world.
Speaker 1: You don't want me to call Jack Swarbrick and get
Speaker 1: his comments on the SEC, Well, I don't even know
Speaker 1: what he thinks. Do you get along with all these commissioners,
Speaker 1: with the other conferences? Anybody not like you?
Speaker 6: They've probably been moments. If you go back to summer
Speaker 6: at twenty one, there wasn't a lot of warmth in
Speaker 6: the room. So that was when we announced the invitations
Speaker 6: to Oklahoma and Texas. I think there's been a thawing.
Speaker 6: I'm now like the good guy right because I'm not
Speaker 6: out there recruiting. Talking to Jack and I get along great.
Speaker 6: I actually I value Jack's perspective and even what we
Speaker 6: might disagree on elements of terminology. I think being as
Speaker 6: direct as Jack can be is really beneficial. So, yeah,
Speaker 6: we have views, we have differences. We do have a
Speaker 6: responsibility collaborate. Dan. I think that actually informs your question
Speaker 6: about do we need somebody to lead? There has to
Speaker 6: be the ability for some of us to give and
Speaker 6: some of us to take, and those roles to be
Speaker 6: reversed over time, and I think we've made a contribution
Speaker 6: in a potential expansion. On the expansion in the College
Speaker 6: Football Playoff when it started, we didn't want to have that.
Speaker 6: Everybody else in the room had needs, and yet we compromised,
Speaker 6: and I would hope that we can continue to collaborate
Speaker 6: even through all of these changes.
Speaker 1: You and Jack ever talked about Notre Dame joining the SEC.
Speaker 6: No, I think he's got a healthy affiliation. You know,
Speaker 6: we talked about the future.
Speaker 1: Do you like how I threw that in at the end?
Speaker 6: Just yeah, I went up to when Georgia played to
Speaker 6: see a football game. I was at Notre Dame's game
Speaker 6: in Georgia. But I respect the history that that Notre
Speaker 6: Dame has. In fact, then I'm asked, even in my
Speaker 6: own conference meetings, you know why Notre Dame has their
Speaker 6: role in the CFP, for example, And I said, you
Speaker 6: know what, I think that's really healthy for college football.
Speaker 6: You yourself talked about traditions and even though we're at
Speaker 6: a time of change and we've been a part of
Speaker 6: that change, we can still honor a number of traditions,
Speaker 6: and so Jack and I have had that conversation certainly good.
Speaker 1: To talk to you say, I hope you have a
Speaker 1: great day. I know, what is the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: Give us any for example French.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have. There's a video conference with the NCAA president. Next,
Speaker 6: we have our track and field coaches who produce Olympians
Speaker 6: and national champions in for a meeting. I'm preparing for
Speaker 6: a baseball coaches meeting where we've won the last four
Speaker 6: national championships and never miss an opportunity at the hype.
Speaker 6: Our presidents and chancellors have a video conference today as
Speaker 6: we look at some of the difficult issues President College Athletics.
Speaker 6: There are two more things on my agenda. A couple
Speaker 6: of calls with ads, checked in with my officiating coordinator.
Speaker 6: We just finished a staff meeting phone call. First phone
Speaker 6: call this morning with seven thirty. So the days move along.
Speaker 1: It's all downhill after this interview, you know that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is I just want to be on the
Speaker 6: Dublin invitement.
Speaker 1: Okay, next year Florida State is going to be playing
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I probably don't need to Vietnam.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Florida State rumors start to percolate,
Speaker 1: and then you're over there in Dublin. But there's an
Speaker 1: open invitation.
Speaker 6: Okay, well that's a good uh reverse there on me.
Speaker 6: You got me?
Speaker 1: Thank you Jack. I'm still on Jack Swarbrick. No, I
Speaker 1: like my good, my good buddy from Dublin. Jack Swarbrick,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Greg. We appreciate your time as always.
Speaker 6: Absolutely good.
Speaker 1: That's the commissioner of the SEC. That's open invitation if
Speaker 1: he wants to join us.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I really respected the slide in on the
Speaker 2: Notre Dame question. So real quick before you go Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Just a lighthearted question here, commission Yes, Mark, you know
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Speaker 9: I had a question before the break, has any other
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Speaker 2: You love her.
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Speaker 8: I could picture Lisa Leslie nineteen eighty. I guess that'd
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