WEBVTT - Saagar Interviews Comedian Andrew Schulz

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me now is my good friend Andrew Schultz. He's

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<v Speaker 1>taking a big gamble, he's putting his special out to

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<v Speaker 1>the people, and he's here to talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So, Andrew, welcome to the show. It's great

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<v Speaker 1>to see you again. Thank you for having me, my man.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm doing fantastic. The real question is

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<v Speaker 1>for you pre orders. You've decided to take this special,

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<v Speaker 1>You've decided to put it out to the people on

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<v Speaker 1>your website, the Andrew Schultz dot com. Why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>tell us the backstory of that. The decision making it

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<v Speaker 1>fits very much, I think within your major career. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so basically, long story short. You know, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>special that I was going to put out with a streamer,

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<v Speaker 1>and the streamer wanted to edit some of the jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm kind of like tired of the edits on

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<v Speaker 1>stand up, you know. And I'm fortunate enough where, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've built up a nice career and I've

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<v Speaker 1>built up the ability to you know, put out the

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<v Speaker 1>content I wanted and to be completely honest, like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my first stand up special ever that I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to do with a streamer. My entire career was

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<v Speaker 1>built on like YouTube and social media. And that's mainly

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<v Speaker 1>because the comedy that I like to do was not

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<v Speaker 1>supported by the industry when I was originally trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get into it. So, you know, here I have my

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<v Speaker 1>first comedy special with a major streamer, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna stop doing the thing that gave me everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not going to water down the content that,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, is the reason why I have this career.

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<v Speaker 1>So last thing I want to do is let down

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<v Speaker 1>all these people who supported me my whole career and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, helped me build this whole studio and help

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<v Speaker 1>me build my whole you know, life existence by putting

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<v Speaker 1>out a product that's just not authentic and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not real. So I said, screw it, and long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>we bought it back so I could give it directly

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<v Speaker 1>to people. And then that's the gamble. It's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think people want real comedy. I think people enjoy laughing

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<v Speaker 1>at things. You know, you come to one of my shows.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been to a bunch of my shows, like some

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<v Speaker 1>most diverse group of people in any comedy show on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet right now, and everybody's laughing at themselves. They're

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<v Speaker 1>laughing at each other. It's like, I see this every

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<v Speaker 1>single night. I don't need notes from some exec Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what the people like and I know what

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<v Speaker 1>the people enjoy. I understand they freak out because they

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<v Speaker 1>see a white guy on stage making fun of every

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<v Speaker 1>different like race, religion, you know, a culture. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, if if they're all there in the

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<v Speaker 1>room represented and laughing along, then what the hell do

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<v Speaker 1>you know? You know? I mean, yeah, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to several of these shows. Everybody's always having

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<v Speaker 1>a good time, no matter what ethnic group you are,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's time to get roasted, and everybody just accepts that.

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<v Speaker 1>My question actually was on the specific joke. Was it

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<v Speaker 1>a so I saw you put out the abortion jokes clart,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to ruin it. People can go and

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<v Speaker 1>watch the teaser for themselves. Was it just the one

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<v Speaker 1>joke or were there several edits that they were being

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<v Speaker 1>asked by the streamers making. Yeah, there's a few that

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion one there was like it was like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the tags that they had an issue with. But

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<v Speaker 1>then there was also I have a kind of longer

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<v Speaker 1>piece about Michael Jackson that you're probably familiar with. And

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<v Speaker 1>they they were not a fan of that one saga.

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<v Speaker 1>They did not like that joke at all. And then

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people know me for like me

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<v Speaker 1>like roasting my Crown attractions, but like with my stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>you come to the shows like I kind of do

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<v Speaker 1>like longer pieces. Right, It's like it could be like

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<v Speaker 1>a five six, seven eight minute like chunk on a

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<v Speaker 1>topic where I'm like really kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>digging into it and maybe taking what I believe to

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<v Speaker 1>be the most comedic point of view, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>often like the right thing to say. And so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit on Michael Jackson. And then there's another bit

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<v Speaker 1>that they did not like that much that I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't done it as much recently, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit about Ted Bundy and like serial Killers. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I heard that. I don't think I've seen that one. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was that was another one which they were

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<v Speaker 1>not very happy. And I get it because I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, it's it's the girl's fault, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know it it is. But I have good reason for

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<v Speaker 1>why say it. Okare you have to watch to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my question is on this for the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason that you and I even met is because I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you were on Rogan with Charlot Mane and

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking specifically about the rise of YouTube and more,

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<v Speaker 1>and I started checking out your stuff and I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is really inventing the game. Obviously it's been

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's almost two years since that happened. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do you see this in the context that

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to change the comedy game as in

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Mark Norman. I believe I heard

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<v Speaker 1>him on Rogan talking about He's like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>did a Netflix special and he's like, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>next one, I'm just going to go with YouTube. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see any reason to not just go direct

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<v Speaker 1>to the fans, because I see much more of an

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<v Speaker 1>impact on my career visibility and more so, you know, streamer,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it is aside, do you have any reason in

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<v Speaker 1>the future that you would even have to work with

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<v Speaker 1>the streamer given that you're almost they're almost paying you

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<v Speaker 1>for less people to watch it. If that's the right

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<v Speaker 1>way to think about it. I think this is the

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<v Speaker 1>final level of the independence game. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the future is definitely ownership, not censorship. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that this is the final level like

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<v Speaker 1>we've been building and I think this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>really where it's at. And I think this also separates

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the men from the boys. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>scary thing because you find out exactly how much you're worth.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a lot of people saying they want

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<v Speaker 1>this amount of money from a streamer. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't generate that yourself, how you asking for it from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of these streamers. You can't, right, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the tricky thing about doing you know, specials with the

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<v Speaker 1>streamers is they used to be able to make superstars

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<v Speaker 1>and now they can't make superstars like they used to.

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<v Speaker 1>Like initially back in the day, you go do it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a special with Netflix and it was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, next week you are boom selling out theaters

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. They can't give you the same

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<v Speaker 1>amount of eyeballs as YouTube. YouTube just has a more

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<v Speaker 1>robust algorithm and YouTube can be honest with its content

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not putting out its own content. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix puts out its own content. I mean every Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>shows a ninety percent. They don't have any shows that

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<v Speaker 1>they messed up on. YouTube is not putting out the

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<v Speaker 1>content right, right, they're just the marketplace. So if it sucks,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, sorry, people don't want to watch this. They're

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<v Speaker 1>more honest, so it can get you to the most

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<v Speaker 1>people now. But there was still a time where these

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<v Speaker 1>streamers could pay you, they could overpay you. You know, YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not making that much money on the ad rev right,

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<v Speaker 1>so they would be able to overpay you. But now

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<v Speaker 1>they're in a situation where they can't even overpay because

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<v Speaker 1>you got to overpay me if people aren't gonna see me.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, we're all capitalists, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to make some bucks, you know. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't give me the people and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>overpay me for the people not seeing it, what's the point.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we create a way where people comics can

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<v Speaker 1>actually put their content out and they can make more

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<v Speaker 1>money than they could make with a streamer, what happens

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<v Speaker 1>Then you get the most pure, authentic version of comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, no notes, and then the networks have to

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<v Speaker 1>compete with that. They'll never give you note because they

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<v Speaker 1>know you could make just as much money on your

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<v Speaker 1>own right. The reason why it's important that comics are

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<v Speaker 1>able to sell it is because in order to do

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<v Speaker 1>a comedy special with this production value, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do, it costs money. It's an investment.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't know it, but it costs

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of dollars to even produce something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so it's you at a certain point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like everybody would like to make a movie, but

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<v Speaker 1>people don't have five million dollars to just invest in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. Right, You do need some capital. You're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people this all the time when I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in your chair. I had no idea this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to work out, you know. I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people support us. It costs a shitload of

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<v Speaker 1>money in order to do video production. People know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, all these cameras and you guys travel on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. I've met your crew. You guys have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of equipment. You have an entire show that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to produce. You you you do it night after night.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to record it, edit it. All of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It costs a tremendous amount of resources, so on that,

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly how you're feeling. My last question, because

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<v Speaker 1>you've always been in a stude observer on this is

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<v Speaker 1>around culture, which is that while I think what we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing here on YouTube is incredible and I know how

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<v Speaker 1>it's wildly successful and more pierce the last bubble of

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<v Speaker 1>popular culture, elite awareness and all of that has always

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<v Speaker 1>been the most difficult part. So what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to work? If this is the future? Are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to catch up eventually? I mean, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>should have caught up ten years ago, but they're still not. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>at what point are they going to recognize what's really

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<v Speaker 1>happening out here in our space? I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>the one they're already recognizing it, but they recognize at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, any business recognize it when it hurts

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<v Speaker 1>their bottom line, right, Like I mean, once, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>once I started doing the YouTube thing and other comics

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<v Speaker 1>started doing the YouTube thing. You know, I have conversations

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<v Speaker 1>with these execs because I still do business with these

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<v Speaker 1>streaming platforms. I'm not anti streaming platform I'm just anti

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<v Speaker 1>edit my jokes. So you know, I talk to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that their biggest competitor is now YouTube. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just what it is, like, that's where people go,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where we get the most eyeballs. At the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, we're comics, right, we want the

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<v Speaker 1>most people to see our stuff, so we can go

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<v Speaker 1>tourn the road and do theaters. And it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>right now YouTube is the most viable option for that,

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<v Speaker 1>right and posting your stuff on social media. So now

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<v Speaker 1>they've even had to capitulate. So I think once something

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<v Speaker 1>affects their bottom line, you all of a sudden start

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<v Speaker 1>becoming more malleable. Right The idea that like Netflix probably

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<v Speaker 1>gets more views on their stand up that they post

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube than they do on Netflix proves the model

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<v Speaker 1>of YouTube, Yes, you know what I mean. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think once it affects their bottom line, they make change.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just how the world works. You have to prove

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<v Speaker 1>that it's valuable. You go out there. I do this,

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<v Speaker 1>other comics do is improve And at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, it's up to the people. If people support

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<v Speaker 1>this and they want this type of comedy and they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they're not down for the censor of jokes,

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<v Speaker 1>then then then this fucking works, and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden they're gonna have to move their needle. All of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, all these different streamers are gonna have to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, we have to let these wild jokes

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<v Speaker 1>go out here, not because we want to, but because

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<v Speaker 1>it's hurting our business model. And at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, that's what we care about. And that's okay

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<v Speaker 1>if at the end of the day they care about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these a lot of times these people work

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<v Speaker 1>in there. They're not comics. Man. They don't love it

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<v Speaker 1>like we love it, you know what I'm saying. They

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<v Speaker 1>love running a business and they got kids in fucking

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<v Speaker 1>school and they got a mortgage of pay. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>mad at them. But we all have the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we love. We all have the things that that we're

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about, so we got to protect that, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? I agree, And I hope they're all

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention the Andrew Schultz dot com. Anything you want

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<v Speaker 1>people to know about both the pre order, about how

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna post, how it's all gonna work. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have some stuff there. Yeah, just uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go pre order my website. Dandrew shouls dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh I dropped a clip of it on uh on

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube that you can go check out. I got

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff on Instagram, but it's on the seventeenth of July,

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<v Speaker 1>but go pre order right now. Watch it with us

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<v Speaker 1>all live. We're gonna do a live stream after with

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<v Speaker 1>the Flagrant crew and uh yeah, just spread the word,

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<v Speaker 1>tell everybody, and and yeah, you're gonna hear. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna hear a lot of wild stuff. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch this show, you're used to wild stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Soccer's been doubling down on this European coffee thing

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<v Speaker 1>he made up, and I appreciate it because he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be so wow. You were in Europe too. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the best part. I actually thought of you. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw you, I saw you double down. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this, dude, this may be be's so happy. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, nobody wants to have seven dollars coffee

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe. It's true. Coffee's never been seven dollars in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like fifty cents in Europe is the cheapest. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna I'll never I'll never give it up. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>never give it up. By the way, their their currency

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<v Speaker 1>just hit it twenty year low, so fuck you euros.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my uh, that's my So it's even cheap, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not seven dollars, and that's only because of their shit

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<v Speaker 1>currency and countries. But we can talk about that at

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<v Speaker 1>another date. Listen. I already pre ordered the show. I

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<v Speaker 1>love you guys, flagrant everything that you guys do over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you always have a friend over here on breaking points.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you very much, Andrew. We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>linked down in the description. I've been where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how it was gonna work out, Crystal

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<v Speaker 1>and I people showed up for us. I predict that

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna show up for you. I already did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be watching pre ordering on the live stream

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<v Speaker 1>just like everybody else. So thank you very much, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on. Thank you, Thank you so much, brother,

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