WEBVTT - HR1: Reflection

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<v Speaker 1>At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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<v Speaker 1>Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>And Welcome to the Drive.

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<v Speaker 3>I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

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<v Speaker 3>Matt game didn't go exactly like we thought it would

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it went pretty terribly, pretty terribly just kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the Ravens who came out and kind of,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we talked about it last week. Is that

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<v Speaker 3>Spider Man meme? You know, I know what you're gonna do,

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<v Speaker 3>and you look like me, and I look like all

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff. And Lamar Jackson hadn't run the ball that

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<v Speaker 3>much against the Steelers, No, and he came in and

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<v Speaker 3>ran the ball I think five consecutive plays on the

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<v Speaker 3>opening drive of that game. That wasn't five plays for

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<v Speaker 3>big yardage, right, but it was five consecutive plays to

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<v Speaker 3>convert first downs. And it just continued from there and

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<v Speaker 3>the Steelers couldn't stop it. They couldn't stop Derrick Henry

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<v Speaker 3>and they lost twenty eight fourteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the Jackson runs became pretty obvious. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>your edge guy, whether it's Wad or high Smith. It

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<v Speaker 4>seemed like mostly they were going more.

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<v Speaker 2>To Watt side whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>What isn't interested in Lamar at all? Yeah, mean he

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<v Speaker 4>is crashing down the line of scrimmage pair that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that was a defensive plan. Usually he's doing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's where the Steelers zagged instead of Right, Okay, TJ,

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<v Speaker 3>you got the running back in these situations. Right, it

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<v Speaker 3>used to be TJ you got You've got Lamar in

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<v Speaker 3>these situations.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Lamar's eyes opened this big and said, if

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<v Speaker 4>that's if they're going, if I'm gonna watch DJ run

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<v Speaker 4>right across my face and I've got a handful of

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<v Speaker 4>yards to make anyone on the planet miss, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 4>that over and over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And frankly, the Steelers din't play with a lot of energy,

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<v Speaker 4>and they were the weaker team. They were obviously the

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<v Speaker 4>weaker team, especially in the first half against what I

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<v Speaker 4>think is an awesome offense. And I think, frankly, I

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<v Speaker 4>think the Ravens might win Super Bowl. But when that

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<v Speaker 4>when Lamar became very aware of how the Steelers were

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<v Speaker 4>playing it, it makes it really tough.

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<v Speaker 3>And and there's an's there's more to that. And then

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<v Speaker 3>when they didn't play it that way. They just handed

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<v Speaker 3>it to Henry.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah exactly. I mean they not that they guessed right,

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<v Speaker 4>but they were always right. And you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna play it that way, where I'm just using Wad

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<v Speaker 4>an example, he didn't do anything wrong, but he comes

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<v Speaker 4>crashing down the line of scrimmage, Well, Queen or your

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<v Speaker 4>phil guy has to scrape over, knowing that, and they

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<v Speaker 4>were always slow to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we found out today Ian Rapaport reporting that Patrick

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<v Speaker 3>Queen had to get four bags of IV fluids up

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<v Speaker 3>step slow in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, again, flat footed, worn out. Yeah, I mean he.

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<v Speaker 3>Looked I saw him after the game, and he looked

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<v Speaker 3>like he's exhausted. And I had no idea that is

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<v Speaker 3>the case at that time. And now it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>adds up, It really adds up. I mean because there

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<v Speaker 3>were a handful of plays. I'm not saying he's dogging it,

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<v Speaker 3>but he barely moved, you know, like it was a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of steps here and there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like they're playing with nothing in the tank.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so the Steelers, you know, right, the Steelers

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<v Speaker 3>lose twenty eight fourteen. That was a defensive side of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Offensively there just wasn't. I didn't see the fight offensively

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<v Speaker 3>in the first half either. Guys weren't breaking tackles. Guys

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<v Speaker 3>weren't right fighting for first downs. I texted you every

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<v Speaker 3>time yesterday when I saw that in those games.

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<v Speaker 4>When a tight end would run over defensive back, tight

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<v Speaker 4>end ward run a quarterback quite a few times, quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>would run over a defensive back.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye running back would run it just constant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday I had I had to have texted you five

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<v Speaker 3>or six times, like, look at that, look at that right,

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<v Speaker 3>and it didn't happen the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's playoff football.

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<v Speaker 4>You're big and bruising in Flick Payne. I mean, Henry

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<v Speaker 4>did Tamiica, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, Like this is what it's

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<v Speaker 2>all about. It this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and that's the thing I mean. You know, when

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<v Speaker 3>you look at this Ravens offense coming into this game.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about it last week.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to know.

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<v Speaker 3>You had to know that they were going to lean

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<v Speaker 3>on Henry sure if you let them do it. They

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have the receivers, they didn't have no and why

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<v Speaker 3>the Steelers didn't have Joey Porter Junior travel with Bateman

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<v Speaker 3>is beyond me is.

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<v Speaker 4>Beyond me, and frankly, to take a step further, this

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<v Speaker 4>added up. I didn't know it until actually reading it today.

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<v Speaker 4>The Ravens were an eleven eleven percent of the time,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean an ungodly low number, like the lowest number

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<v Speaker 4>in the last five years of any playoff team.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we saw that coming.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't have good receivers and the best guys out

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<v Speaker 4>and they got a bunch of big dudes. They had

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<v Speaker 4>a sixth offensive lineman on the field twenty two percent

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<v Speaker 4>of the time, and that's not even counting Ricard as

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<v Speaker 4>a sixth offensive lineman, who's really a seventh offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Steelers still played nickel a lot over fifty

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<v Speaker 4>percent of the snaps. For a nickel you could be

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<v Speaker 4>the best schemed up team in the league. You just

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<v Speaker 4>got little people playing against big people.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing. So, I mean, I understand being concerned.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to have enough people in the field that

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<v Speaker 3>can run with Lamar Jackson, I get that right, And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what the Chargers did to them in Jackson's first

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<v Speaker 3>playoff game, is they went with seven defensive best a bunch.

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<v Speaker 4>Of Darwin James out there right right, just flooding the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the field and being fast.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem becomes Henry. Those guys having attack on Henry.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, Henry has done I saw this today too,

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<v Speaker 4>that this December and beyond in his career is by

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<v Speaker 4>far the best of any back in NFL history. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's remarkably good. Every playoff game he's in, he's a hammer.

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<v Speaker 4>He's over one hundred and fifty yards repeatedly, the most

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<v Speaker 4>in history. And the four of them, Yeah, and Terrell

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<v Speaker 4>Davis is the only one that's even like close to him,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're not the same, you know, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 4>he does this to everybody. He gets stronger. Defenses just

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<v Speaker 4>get weaker throughout the course of the year. Attrition they get.

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<v Speaker 4>It's harder to tackle big people in the cold. And

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<v Speaker 4>so much of his yards were after first contact in

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<v Speaker 4>this game that he's a pretty remarkable specimen. And I

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<v Speaker 4>whan you match him with Lamar, I mean, the thunder

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<v Speaker 4>and lightning that they provide is rare in NFL history,

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<v Speaker 4>And that.

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<v Speaker 2>You knew that you played against. Right that being.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, I thought the backbreaker, you down fourteen to nothing

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<v Speaker 3>late in a half. First of all, you had to

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<v Speaker 3>play the pickings down the sideline that would have made it.

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<v Speaker 3>You would have had to boll to seven down fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>to nothing at that point, I could pick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's credit. He played a whale game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I thought Humphreys sold the pass interference call and.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably call more often than not, was my thought. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Borderline, border line, But okay, he pushed off a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But show me a receiver that doesn't down the field

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<v Speaker 3>that Humphrey did a great job of selling it.

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<v Speaker 2>It happened. It is what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>The Ravens go to the length of the field, but they

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<v Speaker 3>used all their timeouts. They get the ball with eleven

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<v Speaker 3>seconds left. Yeah, at the five, the Steelers have Lamar

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<v Speaker 3>Jackson himed in in the pocket. They've got hands on him.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Herbig had him. Yeah, and he escapes and

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<v Speaker 3>throws a touchdown pass with two seconds left in the

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<v Speaker 3>first half, and now it's twenty one nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>His time to throw on that play was like six

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<v Speaker 2>point three seconds or so. Hardball talked about it after

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<v Speaker 2>the game.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, because they had no timeouts left right right,

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<v Speaker 3>If he's tackled in the field to play, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fourteen to nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>At the half and you feel the Steelers are going

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<v Speaker 3>all right, we just got badly out played in the

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<v Speaker 3>first half.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's only two scores. As we saw in the

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<v Speaker 2>Houston League game, he.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't do is take a sack. Yeah, and they're beating

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<v Speaker 4>blockers left it right, but making him get a sack.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody got him on the ground superhero, And to me,

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<v Speaker 3>that was just such a bad breaker because you had

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<v Speaker 3>what you want. You had the pass rush on him,

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<v Speaker 3>even if he's for six seconds, if he scrambles in

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<v Speaker 3>that situation, there were guys waiting there. He was probably

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<v Speaker 3>going to get tackled short of the goal line. And

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<v Speaker 3>he flips the ball out to the flat and Hill

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<v Speaker 3>goes in from He's one of the only people on

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<v Speaker 3>the plane that they can make that play. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you just have to tip. I mean the other

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<v Speaker 3>guys get paid too. Yeah, And I thought the guys

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<v Speaker 3>are really good. There were some plays that Jackson made

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<v Speaker 3>that I thought, well, there's only about two guys on

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<v Speaker 3>the face of the earth that can make that particular play.

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<v Speaker 3>The other one was the killer. They get the sack

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<v Speaker 3>for for some reason, the Steelers make it twenty eight

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<v Speaker 3>to fourteen they're showing some life, showing some life back

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<v Speaker 3>in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>There's water. They're back in the football game. But they

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<v Speaker 2>come out.

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<v Speaker 3>They get a sack on the Ravens. Don't even have

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<v Speaker 3>Henry on the field to open that nextar. They didn't

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<v Speaker 3>put him on the field that entire possession and they

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<v Speaker 3>go three and out. I'm sorry. They get the sack.

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<v Speaker 3>The Steelers get the sack on first down. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the open third quarter. I'm getting to be in the half, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They get the sack on first down. It's it's now

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<v Speaker 3>second and twenty one, and they roll Jackson out to

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<v Speaker 3>his right. They had for card just completely. He just

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<v Speaker 3>all right, let wat come in and then just sealed

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<v Speaker 3>him off to the inside because they knew they were

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<v Speaker 3>rolling to the right.

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<v Speaker 2>He cut. He runs all the way across the field.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody opened, nobody opened, nobody open, and then throws back

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<v Speaker 3>to the middle of the field. I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>Agilar that caught that one for a twenty two yard game.

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<v Speaker 3>He caught it short of the sticks and goes out.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it was Tylan Wallace, either one, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>He threw about a sixteen yard pass and he ends

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<v Speaker 3>up getting just enough he gets twenty one yards on

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<v Speaker 3>that or twenty two yards to convert the first down.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, their.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys are just getting past the line of the line

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<v Speaker 3>to gain and the Steelers guys didn't all day long.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and I'm not gonna call him out. Well, fire

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<v Speaker 4>Muth was the perfect example of that. You know, like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a little guy in front of you. Run him

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<v Speaker 4>over two instances.

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<v Speaker 2>In the first half where and he dropped the first

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<v Speaker 2>play of the game, the first actually the first two

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<v Speaker 2>series that the Steelers had the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the first one was it was fourth and long

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<v Speaker 3>and he caught it and he had to get i

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<v Speaker 3>think seven or eight yards and he came up two

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<v Speaker 3>yards short. He got gang tackled in that one, but

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<v Speaker 3>you got it. The second one, he catches the ball

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<v Speaker 3>in the flat. It's it's third and two. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>all he has to do is get past one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and eighty pounds of Darius Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, you're a tight end. You're two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy's five ft nine and one hundred and eighty pounds,

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<v Speaker 3>and you let him get you on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Short of sticks and play, you have to have. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to have it, and you you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything gets magnified, especially physicality in the playoffs, especially Raven Steelers,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and you got to be the hammer there.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't, you can't come up short. And there's too

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<v Speaker 4>many of those instances on both sides of the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just this is a really good football team, a

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<v Speaker 4>really physical football team. But I would have liked to

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<v Speaker 4>see more fight.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that they laid down, it's just they they went

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<v Speaker 3>backwards way too often, you know, the powerfeld the other way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they had no running game, no running game. They gained

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<v Speaker 3>twenty nine yards on eleven carries.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty nine yards or two hundred ninety nine. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>won't see a bigger difference in that.

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<v Speaker 3>And honestly, I mean, if you look at what Russell

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<v Speaker 3>Wilson did in this game, he was twenty of twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Four of those twenty nine were.

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<v Speaker 2>Throwing or throw aways. Yeah, I saw that in your article.

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<v Speaker 3>He had twenty He was twenty of twenty five when

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<v Speaker 3>he was actually given time to throw, and he got

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<v Speaker 3>the ball down the field when they attacked, and I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't think they attacked enough early.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't either. And again, there's so much Monday morning

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<v Speaker 4>quarterbacking involved. But I bet if Tomlin or Arthur Smith

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever, we're sitting here and said, let's do it again.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what you know now, I think you put

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<v Speaker 4>the ball in Russ's hands more.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you brought him here for.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And frankly, I thought Pickings leading up to the game.

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<v Speaker 4>I said many times the series have any chance, Picking

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<v Speaker 4>needs to be one of the best players on the field,

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<v Speaker 4>and I thought he was. And I actually made some

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<v Speaker 4>notes in the third quarter. I'm like, I might throw

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<v Speaker 4>it to the Pickens every time and just see what happens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like, I know the Austin play was desperation,

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<v Speaker 4>but watching it on TV, he threw into triple coverage

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<v Speaker 4>to a really small receiver in the end zone. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't have much choice. But you could hardly even

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<v Speaker 4>see Austin because there was so much purple around him,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, Like, you got one dude

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<v Speaker 4>that's a supreme playmaker that was playing well. I almost

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<v Speaker 4>felt at that point just give him the ball every

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<v Speaker 4>time and see what happens, because he's an immensely.

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<v Speaker 3>Time I mean the Ravens knew that as well, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course he was getting doubled all the time, all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, yeah, all the time, you know. But again

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<v Speaker 3>they had chunk pass plays. You know the play that

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<v Speaker 3>Austin made it's on third and three or third and

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<v Speaker 3>ten from the three on their first touchdown drive was like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a big time catch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a big time.

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<v Speaker 3>Throw over the middle where everybody says Russell Wilson can't throw.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he stuck that into a tight spot for

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<v Speaker 3>a big game. He then comes out hits Mike Williams

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<v Speaker 3>down the sideline. These were on third, third and long

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<v Speaker 3>plays too, right, right, and then his Van Jefferson for

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<v Speaker 3>the touchdown on third and long for a thirty yard

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<v Speaker 3>touchdown pass I think.

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<v Speaker 4>You cited in your article, but he had five or

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<v Speaker 4>six between like twenty five and thirty five yard catchers,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, chrunk plays.

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<v Speaker 3>All we heard the Ravens have fixed their their their

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<v Speaker 3>issues with their.

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<v Speaker 2>With the deep ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that would suggest that maybe they didn't. Teams just

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<v Speaker 3>weren't trying it, and you know, you don't know until

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I would have tried that earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And again they weren't on the field a whole

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<v Speaker 4>heck of a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's obviously you have to convert some of

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<v Speaker 2>those first downs.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean a lot of frankly, over the last five games,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of our Monday morning quarterback or why I

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<v Speaker 4>would have done this more on offense. I've done that

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<v Speaker 4>more on offense. But then it's like, wow, but they

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<v Speaker 4>only ran ten plays in the free.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you got to run to stay on the field,

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<v Speaker 3>got to stay on the field. Guy's got to fight

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<v Speaker 3>for first downs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I was talking with Wolf and Rob

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<v Speaker 4>we do Air to Night Monday Night about you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the time of possession thing. It seems like every Monday

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<v Speaker 4>we've been talking about time of possession, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>the post game shows with those two. And in these

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<v Speaker 4>five games, there's been three hundred minutes of football and

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<v Speaker 4>the Steelers have had the football for like one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and twenty one of those three hundred minutes. But to me,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the symptom. That's not the disease. You go to

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<v Speaker 4>the doctor saying, Doc, time possessions all messed up. My

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<v Speaker 4>arm hurts, you know, my my chest hurts. Whatever, And

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<v Speaker 4>Doc does all the tests and says well, these are

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<v Speaker 4>your problems. Well they're the problems are on both sides

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<v Speaker 4>of the ball, you know, like you've got to get

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<v Speaker 4>that time possession back and run more plays. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>not just because you haven't run the ball well enough

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<v Speaker 4>or you're giving up too much on the run. It's

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<v Speaker 4>all the above, you know, and it just leads to

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<v Speaker 4>bad time possession, which is we know, just snowballs and

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<v Speaker 4>gets bigger and bigger and bigger down the hill.

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<v Speaker 3>I got some stats. I look some things up today.

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<v Speaker 3>I had some thoughts as I was watching all the

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<v Speaker 3>games take place here over the weekend. Yeah, this will

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<v Speaker 3>be without the Monday night game, playoff game that will

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<v Speaker 3>finish off the wild card weekend. But I gets some

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<v Speaker 3>stats that I want to dig into that speak to

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<v Speaker 3>what you just talked about there, and we'll do that

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<v Speaker 3>when we return. He is the Matt Williamson. I am

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<v Speaker 3>Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive. You're on the

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<v Speaker 3>Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back with

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<v Speaker 3>more right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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<v Speaker 1>Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio, and we are back. I'm Dale Lolli.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the Matt Williamson and Matt during the game

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday or during the after the AFC.

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<v Speaker 2>Game and all the FC game for yeah, yeah, we're completing.

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<v Speaker 3>I tweeted out and I just did this for comparisons purposes,

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<v Speaker 3>And people thought, oh, you're making an excuse for the Steelers. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't at all. If you read my ten thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>after the game, pretty blunt. They get their butts. But

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<v Speaker 3>I said the AFC games were not competitive. Oh and

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<v Speaker 3>here's how non competitive.

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<v Speaker 2>They were the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 3>The Steelers game was the closest of the TREA and

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<v Speaker 3>the Steelers, and the Steelers scored the most points and

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<v Speaker 3>gave up the fewest points of the AFC team.

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<v Speaker 2>It was bad. And so I would say that the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers is bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Their first half might have been the worst of any

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<v Speaker 4>of the you know, but at least at one point,

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<v Speaker 4>semi late in the game, it was still a game.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Denver Buffalo wasn't at that point, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>deep into the third quarter, you at least had your

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<v Speaker 4>head above water. But you're right, it was three very

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<v Speaker 4>lopsided games, but go go, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe look up today, just the first round of the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 3>not excluding tonight's game. Though far we've seen only one

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<v Speaker 3>lower seeded team win that Washington was right against Tampa,

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<v Speaker 3>not that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, right, They're not a powerhouse, right all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So Houston had four hundred and twenty nine yards of offense. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>remember they did nothing in the first quarter of that game.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and they had three turnovers in that game too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they turned the ball over three times. They averaged

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<v Speaker 3>they ran seventy plays. Houston did Houston to fifty four

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<v Speaker 3>for LA Baltimore had four hundred and sixty four yards

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<v Speaker 3>of offense. They ran seventy two plays compared to forty

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<v Speaker 3>five for the Steelers. Buffalo had four hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 3>one yards of offense they ran they had seventy two plays.

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<v Speaker 3>Denver had forty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So these are like thirty play discrepancies. Thirty plays.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Philadelphia green Bay was a little bit differently different

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<v Speaker 3>because Philly.

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<v Speaker 2>Was just both those defenses played well. Yeah, and green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay turned the ball over four times.

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<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia had none, right, right, you know, you lose the

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<v Speaker 3>turnover battle four nothing, you're going to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Philly never really did much through the air.

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<v Speaker 3>To Washington last night. Now, mind you, Washington only had

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<v Speaker 3>eighty two rushing yards in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Game, including Jane Daniels.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, they ran sixty nine plays. Tampa ran forty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So and obviously time possession is going to reflect on this,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's how we ended last segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Time of possession.

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<v Speaker 3>Houston had the ball for thirty four to twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>Baltimore had it thirty nine to thirty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo had it for.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty one minutes and forty three almost forty two minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Denver didn't even have They had eighteen minutes and seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>seconds in time of possession.

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<v Speaker 2>Denver scored on the first drive, and they scored on

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<v Speaker 2>the first drive. I won a big back for that. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Philly won the time of possession thirty minutes and thirty

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<v Speaker 3>three seconds. Even though they got out gained in the game.

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<v Speaker 3>They controlled the game. Washington had it for thirty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, they controlled the game, Yeah, Philly. I mean the

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<v Speaker 4>numbers might not reflect it, but they controlled the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Washington had it for thirty five to twenty six. Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's massively important, and I think the later

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<v Speaker 4>and later you get in the season, it becomes more

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<v Speaker 4>and more important. And there was a time when the

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<v Speaker 4>Steelers were ten to three, they were number one in

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<v Speaker 4>time of possession. I mean they're capable of being that

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<v Speaker 4>team as well. Now you gonna do it against the

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<v Speaker 4>top tier teams. Yeah, so good.

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<v Speaker 3>The average is for the first five playoff games. These

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<v Speaker 3>are the averages, and there's some outliers, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>still the average. The average winning team held the ball

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<v Speaker 3>for thirty seven minutes. The average winning team had four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred point eight yards of total offense. The losing team

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<v Speaker 3>had two seventy point two. The average winning team average

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<v Speaker 3>five point nine yards per play, the losers had five

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<v Speaker 3>point five. The average winning team had to ran sixty

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<v Speaker 3>eight plays, the average losing team forty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable. You can't ask anything. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>Denver's defense is good, Green Bay's defense is good. But

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<v Speaker 3>you can't continually ask your defense to go out there.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to be able to perform offensively over the

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<v Speaker 3>course of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have to.

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<v Speaker 4>That's again. During this five game losing streak, got a

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<v Speaker 4>three hundred minutes. They've been on the field for like

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and twenty two Steelers. It's it's a losing

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<v Speaker 4>proposition all day long, every you know, times a thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the teams that lost yesterday in Saturday, Tampa averaged

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<v Speaker 3>six point five yards per play. Okay, if you look

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<v Speaker 3>at it, Washington averaged five point one. The Steelers averaged

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<v Speaker 3>six point two yards per play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, they had some chunks, like Baltimore was at

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<v Speaker 2>six point four.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like they were totally, but Baltimore was able

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<v Speaker 3>to continue lead more of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they could because.

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<v Speaker 3>They were able to get those first downs, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some of the other ones they're not. You know, Houston

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<v Speaker 3>was at six point one yards per play. La was

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<v Speaker 3>at four point eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Buffalo had a big jem too. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they won by a million.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, Philly won that game because they turned They turned

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<v Speaker 3>Green Bay over four times on the opening kickoff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just a killer that was. I thought there was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a blowout from that point.

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<v Speaker 3>But the winning teams turned the ball over three times,

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<v Speaker 3>the losers turned it over nine, and all three of

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<v Speaker 3>the turnovers for the winning teams were by Houston. I

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<v Speaker 3>say Houston had a bunch early. Yeah, Okay, early None

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<v Speaker 3>of the other winning teams turned the ball over. So

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<v Speaker 3>when you talk about turnovers mattering.

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<v Speaker 4>True year after year, decade after decade, right especially, I'll

0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 4>say this all week. Everything gets magnified in the playoffs.

0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:31.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you think it's a trend in the

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<v Speaker 4>regular season, multiply times one thousand in the playoffs because

0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.000
<v Speaker 4>everything's you can't get away with. He turned the ball

0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:41.440
<v Speaker 4>over a couple times against the Raiders. You know, the

0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.159
<v Speaker 4>Chiefs can do that. You know the can do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, but you can't do that against the

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 4>Bills and Ravens and Texans, et cetera, et cetera.

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna get multi it's going to so.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the Steelers in Denver didn't turn the ball over,

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.920
<v Speaker 3>right in those games. They just didn't have the football.

0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Didn't know football, and didn't produce first downs.

0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 3>And didn't produce enough first down right, yeah, right.

0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.040
<v Speaker 2>The opponent from doing the same, just plays.

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.720
<v Speaker 3>Run, plays run. I think the Ravens in the first

0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.440
<v Speaker 3>half of that game were seven of eight on third downs.

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were. They were miraculous because you have Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and okay, it's third and two, Well, we need

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.560
<v Speaker 3>two yards, lamar go get us two yards.

0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.760
<v Speaker 4>Or even just eagle push push or saw a lot

0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 4>of tight ends taking snaps and getting that one yard,

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:25.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, the things like that.

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Just keep the chains moving. Make them play at least

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.320
<v Speaker 2>three more plays. You know, that's another minute and a

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<v Speaker 2>half or whatever. It's your defense is standing on you

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:35.720
<v Speaker 2>a long time in the middle of January.

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<v Speaker 3>I am now the belief that playing defense, particularly in

0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs, is all about playing less.

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 2>De However, you have to get there. You have to

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 2>play less defense. Yeah, I have to.

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 3>So your offense has to be one that moves the change.

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.679
<v Speaker 4>And especially in the playoffs from a defensive standpoint, because

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 4>there's Mahomes and there's Allen and maybe Stroud's not at

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 4>that level, but all the quarterbacks are good. Like you're

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 4>not going to run into too many Rudolphs in the

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 4>play I mean, there aren't many that those guys. If

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 4>you're on the field, they're going to figure you out.

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.879
<v Speaker 3>And you know, even at that, like I mentioned and

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I got my things, my play is confused. The Steelers

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 3>cut the score to twenty eight fourteen in late in

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.560
<v Speaker 3>the third quarter, so they're in the game. It's twenty fourteen,

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:30.639
<v Speaker 3>they get they're alive.

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 2>They're alive.

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 3>The Ravens come out and call they don't have Henry

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 3>on the field and call three consecutive passing plays even

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 3>know they're running, well, they're running the ball well now

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Lamar scrambled for six yards on one of them, but

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 3>it was a pass play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. I mean there's always that trump card too,

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, what are they doing here?

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 3>This is and so they end up punting and the

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 3>Steelers get the ball back at like the I think

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 3>it was around their own forty and I'm like, they

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 3>just made this a ball game by doing that.

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's almost like you have Shack and it's me

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 4>guarding Shack and he's just dunking on my head.

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>And then you decide to check up.

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Four threason right right, right right, like give it to

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:11.360
<v Speaker 3>the big guy, right.

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So that to me is, you know, Okay, the

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 3>Steelers found a way to get off the field, get

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 3>your offense back on the field.

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Steelers.

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 3>I think they give up a sack on on that

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:27.400
<v Speaker 3>one on second down, yeah that you know, they got

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 3>a first down, then give up the second down sack

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 3>and put him you know too far and they had

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 3>to end up having to punt the ball back again.

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Yea, it's just.

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.880
<v Speaker 3>You have to the offense and defense have to work

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 3>hand in hand. I mean, really, it's a team game.

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 4>It's eleven guys on the field and they have to

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 4>compliment one another, and you can't be super heavy one

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 4>way or the other. Not that either unit was great

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 4>for the Steelers, but you're right. I mean, I think

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 4>during this five game losing streak against playoff caliber teams,

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 4>you really see it. You know, like there were games

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 4>or the offense played pretty well in that game, or

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 4>defense played really well in that game, but it wasn't

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 4>a total team effort, and you end up losing time

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 4>possession over and over and over and again. That's it's

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 4>a symptom. You know, how do I fix my time

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 4>of possession? Well, your right guard blocks better, and your

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 4>nose tackles stouter, blah blah blah blah blah.

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 2>But in the end, that needs fixed. I mean, to

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 2>beat the good teams, yeah, no, there's no doubt. Yeah.

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 3>And I just look at you know, the some of

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 3>the you know, especially in the AFC, the quarterbacks still

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 3>standing mahomes.

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 4>That's a good yeah, so this is disheartening, but the

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Steelers got eliminated by Lamar, by Allen, and by Mahomes

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 4>the last three years, and frankly, that's probably going to

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 4>keep up because they're unbelievably good.

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 3>The only teams that have beaten those guys are each

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 3>other for the most part.

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 4>And I'll throw Burrow in there too, because I think

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 4>he's the only quarterback on the planet that's as good

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 4>as those three. There's four elite quarterbacks. And I was

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 4>joking on a different show, it's almost like having Bo

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Jackson and Techo Ball like the most It's such a

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 4>quarterback driven league. It's such an advantage over everyone you

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 4>play when you have a superhero at that position, and

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 4>defenses can't they get figured out? And they I mean,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 4>these four are are historic type quarterbacks all at once,

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 4>all in the freaking AFC, two of them in the division.

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna have to figure out a new way of

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 4>playing football to compete with those guys in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah,

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they're they're remarkably good. And along those lines,

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 4>just in the AFC. With respect to Houston's win, I

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 4>bet it plays out like this that there's three big

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 4>dogs in the AFC. Two of them wipe the floor

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 4>with Denver and beat the Steelers pretty bad. Houston might

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 4>go on to change my mind. I just think they

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 4>played it. They just didn't play.

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 3>They played a team that turned it over four times.

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 4>If Houston would have played Baltimore or Buffalo, we'd be

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 4>talking about them too. I mean, they just happened to

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 4>not play one of the powerhouse.

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, and we talked about the you know, the Steelers'

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 3>best path to victory was to play Houston in the

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 3>first of the playoffs.

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 4>And I would have picked them to win that game.

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I might pick them a win if they

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 4>played today.

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 3>I thought that they would give the Ravens more of

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 3>a game.

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, of course, you know, right right right, we thought

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 2>that would be a close game. But I do think

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 2>when we look back at the history of the AFC.

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 4>In the twenty twenty four season, we're gonna say there's

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 4>three powerhouses, and Kansas City's gonna mop the floor with Houston,

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 4>and fortunately for them, they're gonna have to play one

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 4>of them. Baltimore and Buffalo are gonna have to play

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.159
<v Speaker 4>two of them to get to the super Bowl. And

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 4>that's the difference of seeding, and those three teams are

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 4>really really good led by elite quarterbacks, and elite's a

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 4>big work.

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I think they're really really good because of the quarterback.

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 3>To me too, I mean, I think if you took

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 3>any of those quarterbacks and put them with this Steelers roster, it.

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 4>Might be I see in the league. Yeah, one hundred

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 4>percent believe that. And I like the Steelers roster. I

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 4>like the Steelers makeup, but I might rather be the

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 4>Bengals just because it's so hard to find that guy

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 4>I might give. I was talking to my my buddy

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 4>Peacock talking about the Niners. He's like, I might trade

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 4>I might not. He's gone on a rant with the Niners.

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I don't think I want to play play

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 3>or pay party. I want to trade Bosa all these

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 3>dudes and maybe get the next stud quarterback because that's

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of like the only way to win it all

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 3>in this league. The problem is there's there's not that

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 3>stud quarterback in this draft this year. If you can't

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 3>be it's not that that's how I countered.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's great to be bad the year Burrow

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Herbert to Hurtz.

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Love comes out, and maybe only one of them turns

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 4>out to be elite, but at least you have a crack.

0:28:55.880 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>It's great to be the year river has been Eli

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>comes out, you know, be bad the right year. I mean,

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>it's not just tank tank tank tank tank. Now maybe

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 2>next year it's great. This year doesn't look like it,

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's for sure. But or even to be

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>bad this last year, I like the chances of someone

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 2>out of Williams May, Jayden Daniels, you know, Panix, et cetera,

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe be in the next one in that group, you know,

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>But so much of it's just lock, you know what

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, tanking just a tank, and well we're gonna tank

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 3>and go get a quarterback. We better have a pretty

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 3>damn good idea, ay of what who that quarterback is

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 3>going to be. And tanking it doesn't guarantee you of anything.

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 4>It can be a disease, right, I mean, and ruin

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 4>the walls you know that you painted so pretty, you know.

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 3>And it also becomes a situation, Okay, we won three games,

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 3>somebody else won two, yeah, or.

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 2>We lost with the one. We can't control what every

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 2>what everybody else is doing. Too. There's some miserable teams

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 2>out there.

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Look at how many times the number one overall pick

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 3>in the draft this year changed hands? What about four

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 3>times in the last month of the season. Yeah, yeah,

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 3>because there was a lot of bad out there.

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 4>Right, I mean it looked like Carolina was on pace

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 4>to not win a game all year. Well then their

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 4>quarterback played okay, and they're not even close to having

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 4>the first pick, you know. Like the Saints are a

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 4>good example to me, Like they've maxed out their credit cards,

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 4>they've went to that a team like that, I would

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 4>quote Tank, you know, Cameron Jordan, Tyron Mathow, Davis Carr.

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 4>Thank you for your service, Kamara, But we just need

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 4>draft picks and maybe we'll even start Spencer Rattler next

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 4>year and end up with Arch Banning or whatever, you

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, maybe you know, but man.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 3>That's a dangerous slope too, you know. But there's no

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 3>guarantee again him, there's no That's the thing.

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>You could be the worst team in the league and

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 2>not the first your number.

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 3>If you're number two, yeah, somebody else can still trade

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 3>ahead of you and take that quarterback, or the team

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 3>that's there take the quarterback.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 2>You're guaranteed a nothing, nothing. It's a brutal world.

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 4>Now there are some examples. You know, Alan and Mahomes

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 4>weren't the first.

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Pick in the draft, or was Jackson? Right right?

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 4>You know, So it doesn't mean it bothers me a

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 4>little bit. Steelers are stuck in purgatory. There's no chance

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 4>to ever get their next guy.

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, Lamar went thirty first. The Chiefs moved

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.719
<v Speaker 2>up six spots to get my home six. They went

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 2>up from twenty seven, but twenty seven.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking they were like the Bills. I think

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 3>the Bills was more like a They moved up for

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Allan too. Yeah, I know, Case was a playoff team.

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 4>They weren't a powerhouse, but they were a playoff team.

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 4>There's one you love. It doesn't look like this draft's

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 4>that one to do it. I mean, but this is

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 4>a conversation probably from a year from now. You know,

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 4>the only one other avenues to get that guy.

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 3>The only guy who intrigues me in this draft, and

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 3>this is we're well, plenty of time to talk about this,

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 3>But the only guy who intrigues me about what he

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 3>might be in this draft is Jaylen Milroll.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Because he could be that, because he could be he.

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Could be that next guy in that Lamar Jaden Daniels

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>type guy. Yeah, which is what But again, that's what

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what Indianapolis was trying to get when they went

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 3>out and trade it up to get Richardson.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 2>And he hasn't been that.

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 3>No, there's no guarantee, no guarantee, but I definitely think

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 3>and it won't be this year probably, well maybe it

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 3>is Milroe.

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Who knows that.

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 4>You and I I think the duration we do there

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 4>or at least the next couple of years talking drafts,

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 4>Steelers or not. And I felt this way for a

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 4>couple of years. I'm Dave Kingman at the plate. I mean,

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't need a single. I don't need

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 4>a double. I am swinging as hard as I can.

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 4>And if I strike out six times in a row

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 4>on the Richardson's of the world that don't make it,

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 4>and I get.

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 2>One Allen, I win.

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 3>That's why I'm never gonna kill the Steelers for taking

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Kenny Pickett at twenty at twenty at twenty, you didn't

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 3>trade up to go get him. You didn't, you didn't

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 3>make a move, You didn't mortgage your future to go

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 3>to use a picked to take a quarterback in the

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 3>first round, and you got out of it new year,

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 3>and you got out of it quickly enough that Okay,

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna pivot and go.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>So you didn't.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 3>You didn't try to four years down the line, we're

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna keep trying to make this work. No, right, Right,

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 3>that's going to be the situation Indianapolis finds itself in.

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 3>For example, just using them as example, like are they

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 3>going to run it back again with Richardson next year?

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Probably one more year. He completed forty seven percent of

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 2>his passes this year, right, but he actually regressed. But

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>that was Josh Allen his rookie year.

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 3>I understand, you know what I mean. Alan didn't regress.

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 4>No, that's the thing, right, I guess that was year

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 4>two for Richardson. But Allen was a bad player in

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 4>his rookie year.

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 3>He was he was not the guy that he is now.

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 3>But they put pieces around him. Right, That's the other

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 3>thing that you have to have in place, is pieces.

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 3>But I like your Milrow thought like if he has

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 3>a high metachlorane count, yes he could be a Jedi.

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's good and maybe it doesn't work, but

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 3>he's got you know, he has the trait passes the

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 3>eye test of the traits that you're looking for.

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 4>Right, that he could be a special player that's almost

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 4>impossible to defend. There's a couple of them walking the

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 4>planet right now, unfortunately too of them on the division.

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Right, And you know, can justin Fields be that? I

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 3>thought so when he came out in the draft. Yeah,

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I thought he might be that kind of player. I

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 3>loved him, loved him. He hasn't proven to be but

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 3>he hasn't proven to be that in terms of books.

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>But it's there's some schafters written.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now maybe you have a better idea that. Okay,

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 3>you know he's he's sat and he's learned behind. Say

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 3>what you want about Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson's a pro, right,

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 3>he he handled him.

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>That's why I wanted to make the change and I

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>condone that, right.

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 3>And he's been that guy who can be to steal

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 3>from your analogy there, he can be your obi wan

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 3>kenobi yah to adjustin Field's you know, young paddle.

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he can't be Vader, yeah, but he could be

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 2>a real solid Jedi for you. Yeah, right, all.

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Right, So that's gonna be the question that the Steelers

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 3>have to ask themselves this offseason is Okay, do we

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 3>try to run this back with both guys? Do we

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 3>try to just pick? We have to pick one or

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 3>the other, you know, and then which which one is it?

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:17.959
<v Speaker 2>And again, I don't love going fishing in this quarter.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not fit.

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm not I'm not throwing them both back and trying

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 3>over again. I'm not doing that.

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 2>You mean, go fish on both of them. I'm not. Yeah,

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going.

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, We're just gonna try somebody else, Like we're gonna

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.720
<v Speaker 3>what trade for Derek Carr? Yeah, that doesn't That doesn't

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 3>appeal to me at all. I mean, I'm Jameis Winston.

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 4>No, you can get Kirk Cousins for the Russell Wilson deal,

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 4>but that doesn't excite me at all, not at all.

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 4>Right now, the only one that I have a little

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.760
<v Speaker 4>bit of interest in is if you said the Vikings

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 4>will give you McCarthy for your first round pick.

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 2>See, I don't know that he has special he doesn't. Yeah,

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't do that for me. He's at least his books.

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 2>He might be Mac. He might be Mac Jones.

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 3>I didn't love him coming out. Yeah, problem, he might

0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 3>be mac Jones. He was a good player with a

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 3>lot of talent around him.

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 4>Now, maybe if you told me, and this is an

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 4>April conversation because I don't know enough now, but if

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 4>you said you get Fields for thirteen million and mill

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:14.760
<v Speaker 4>Row in the first round, well those are two legit

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 4>bites of the apple that one of them might be special.

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 4>But we might be talking about Milroe by then, as

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 4>like the first pick in the draft.

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just don't know, right, I.

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Mean, now, yeah, he's an interesting player now, but we

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 4>might be laughing that he laughed.

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden.

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 3>He's available at ten, as Mahomes was.

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Now, we can talk, but you don't know how that's

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 3>going to work. So you better have a plan in

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 3>place going into the draft. That can't be your only

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 3>right avenue to get a quarterback.

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 2>You just can first or second. You know, you don't

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>have that power.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you're going to have to The Steelers are

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 3>going to have to make a decision about how they

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 3>want to proceed moving forward.

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Before the draft.

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh well before the draft that happens in March, you know,

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 3>the Marching March is free agency.

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:04.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's happening now, and it's obviously a critical component.

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 4>But something that's going to be fun is you laid

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 4>it out well in texta to I mean, we'll talk

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 4>about it for months now. They have a lot of

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 4>cap space, they have a lot of options.

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>But easily create more.

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 4>You can easily create more. I mean there's a lot

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 4>of stuff they can do now. We can fight all

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 4>day long. Can you still go into Kansas City in

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 4>the AFC Championship Game next year the year after with

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 4>Wilson or whomever in a really good roster around him

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 4>and even get that far.

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know if you can ever beat Superman.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean the league is really structured that way right now.

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 4>Brady was that guy for a long time with different superpowers,

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 4>but those guys rule the world. I mean, it had

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 4>to be like going against Jordan.

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 3>No fun, Yeah, no fun at all. Let's get through

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 3>another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly.

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Drive. You're on the Steelers audio network, Matt,

0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.359
<v Speaker 3>and I'll be back with more right after this.

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:16.719
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0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 2>And we are back on Dale Lolly.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 3>He is the Matt Williamson and Matt they were mulling

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 3>over some quarterback stuff there in the previous segment, and

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.240
<v Speaker 3>I went back and looked because a lot of people

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 3>like to have revisionist history on stuff, and so other

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Steelers should have done something to do better than you know,

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 3>bend the last couple of years. Now, I will say

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 3>in twenty eighteen, leading up to the draft, yeah, I

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 3>mocked Lamar Jackson to the Steelers and got crushed for it.

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 2>No, you're crushed for it.

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm an idiot. He'll never be a good quarterback. He's

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 3>says he's that, he's.

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 2>A running back, he's a receiver. Yeah, blah blah. And

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>they visited with Lamar. From I understand, they did right.

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 3>They liked him, they visited with him. You know they

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 3>didn't take him. Yeah, and now, wow, why didn't they

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 3>take Lamar? Well, when I'm again, when I brought that

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 3>up in that season a week before the draft, my

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 3>next to last mock draft, I got crushed for it.

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Sure, crushed. So and I get at that point.

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 3>You had Roethlisberger coming off of one of his best seasons,

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 3>he hadn't had any elbow issues, didn't know that he

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 3>was thirty five years old, right right, he was thirty

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 3>You're trying to win, right, So I get it in

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 3>that regard, it didn't make a lot of sense.

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I saw both sides of the argument.

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's no question, and it's easy to say in

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five, you should have done that.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, we also saw how Roethlisberger kind of treated

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Mason Rudolph, who they did take, was not super kind

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:46.839
<v Speaker 3>to him because he saw him as a threat. Would

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 3>he have treated Lamar Jackson in the first round the

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:49.760
<v Speaker 3>same way?

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 2>So freaking loosely, right right? Absolutely?

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure you've gotten so many comments in the

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 4>last forty eight hours or whatever, but I've gotten things

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 4>like how could the Steelers not in Baker Mayfield. I'm like, well,

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 4>he wasn't that player. Then he's gotten better, you know

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.800
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. Like, So, these are some of the guys.

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 4>These are some of the free agents who were available

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 4>this year. Over the last few years.

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, twenty twenty two, the best guy available was

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Derek Carr. Twenty twenty three, Gino Smith was available, was

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 3>good sort of, but he resigned with the Seahawks for

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 3>three years and one hundred and five million. Where you've

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 3>got to pay Gino Smith one hundred and five million

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.479
<v Speaker 3>dollars over three years or one hundred and ten because

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 3>maybe he likes it in Seattle, right, I say you

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 3>have to outbid them. I mean, if you remember the

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 3>player at that time, he was not you know, I

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 3>mean he's a borderline Pro Bowl fifth seventh best player

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 3>in the NFC, you know, good that position. Jimmy Garoppolo

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty three got sixty seven and a half

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>million dollars over three years to leave the San Francisco

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 3>forty nine ers for the Raiders.

0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jimmy Garoppolo was in his base, out of the league.

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 2>I know he's in the league, but barely. Yeah.

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Then you had Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield who were

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 3>both available, but both were coming off of miserable nothing

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 3>right it, had done nothing in their career.

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's like signing Daniel Jones this year.

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would be the same the same thing, and

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 3>somebody's probably gonna do that. Looking at this one and

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 3>he might hit. Well, it work for Sam Donald and

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Baker Mayfield.

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 4>I think that's a path a lot of teams are

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 4>going to take because there's not a lot of other options.

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.919
<v Speaker 4>Where can I get the next Baker and Donald? Yeah,

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know you can. I mean, it doesn't

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 4>like it's not like this happens every year.

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 2>We've seen this.

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, you could say the same thing about Well,

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Gino Smith, he reclaimed his career. He was Okay, that's

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 3>three guys out of one hundred quarterbacks who've been drafted

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 3>over the last ten years.

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 4>And frankly, if the Steelers would have walked into Baltimore

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 4>with Donald, Gino or Baker yesterday or Saturday, it might

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 4>have been the same result. Yeah, it doesn't ensure that

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.240
<v Speaker 4>you're going to beat the superheroes.

0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, this year, your choices were cousins. He got a lot.

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 3>He got way overpaid Mayfield, if you remember, re signed

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 3>with Tampa before he hit free agency. He got one

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 3>hundred million dollars over three years.

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which is a great deal for them. I mean

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 4>that that's a win for the box.

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 3>So then your pivot in that situation for the Steelers

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<v Speaker 3>was what they did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they got and the prices they paid were ridiculously great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there's an asterisk in a good way for the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean because the quarterback room costs nothing, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's part of the equation.

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<v Speaker 3>But don't just tell me that, oh, they should have

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<v Speaker 3>they should have had done this, or they should have

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<v Speaker 3>done that.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta give me names.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me somebody who was legitimately on the market where

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<v Speaker 3>they could have legitimately drafted in those years.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not much. There's not much.

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<v Speaker 3>The Kenny Pickett draft was the Kenny Pickett draft. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he was the best quarterback in the draft. And don't

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<v Speaker 3>give me Brock Purty. Brock Purty was the last flipping

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<v Speaker 3>guy drafted that year for a reason, right, the forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine Ers didn't know that that was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the case, or they A wouldn't have traded up for

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<v Speaker 3>Trey Lance and b would have taken him well before that.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's a systems quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not sure you're scoring any more points or

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<v Speaker 4>of anything you can result with b Rock Party.

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<v Speaker 3>And no Rock Party goes into Baltimore yesterday or Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>with the Steelers roster and gets his head handed to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, no question. There aren't many answers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>there just aren't. Now a conversation that is much more

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<v Speaker 4>geared towards the off season. I know it's the off

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<v Speaker 4>season today, but it's reaction Monday. So how do you

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<v Speaker 4>best compete without one of them?

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk about that in the second hour. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's what you have to figure out this offseason

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<v Speaker 3>because what you're doing isn't working. You've lost to those

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<v Speaker 3>three quarterbacks the last three times you've been in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 3>all on their field, different right, all in their stadiums,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a part of it. You've got to win

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<v Speaker 3>enough game so that you don't have to go to

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<v Speaker 3>those places. At some point, you're gonna have to unless

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<v Speaker 3>you're your ultimate goal. Yeah yeah, unless unless you somehow,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, get the number one overall seed. At some

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<v Speaker 3>points you're gonna have to beat one of those guys

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<v Speaker 3>in the postseason. And so how do you best do that?

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember, even like Tannehill, Vrabel, Arthur Smith got

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<v Speaker 4>the number one seed with Derrick Henry and they played

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<v Speaker 4>their style and didn't bear that much root in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they won a game.

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<v Speaker 4>Good team, they had number one seed and handed to

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<v Speaker 4>Henry and they had a good defense. And still Mahomes

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<v Speaker 4>is lumin out there. Yeah, Jackie Ripperds still a looming

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<v Speaker 4>around the corner, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So there are ways I think that you can do

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<v Speaker 3>this and give yourself a better chance, give yourself a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about that now. Our number two, he is

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<v Speaker 3>the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and

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<v Speaker 3>now will be back with our number two right after

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<v Speaker 3>this