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Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: Matt game didn't go exactly like we thought it would

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Speaker 3: on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: No, it went pretty terribly, pretty terribly just kind of.

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Speaker 3: It was the Ravens who came out and kind of,

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Speaker 3: you know, we talked about it last week. Is that

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Speaker 3: Spider Man meme? You know, I know what you're gonna do,

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Speaker 3: and you look like me, and I look like all

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Speaker 3: that stuff. And Lamar Jackson hadn't run the ball that

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Speaker 3: much against the Steelers, No, and he came in and

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Speaker 3: ran the ball I think five consecutive plays on the

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Speaker 3: opening drive of that game. That wasn't five plays for

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Speaker 3: big yardage, right, but it was five consecutive plays to

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Speaker 3: convert first downs. And it just continued from there and

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Speaker 3: the Steelers couldn't stop it. They couldn't stop Derrick Henry

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Speaker 3: and they lost twenty eight fourteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Jackson runs became pretty obvious. I mean,

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Speaker 4: your edge guy, whether it's Wad or high Smith. It

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Speaker 4: seemed like mostly they were going more.

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Speaker 2: To Watt side whatever.

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Speaker 4: What isn't interested in Lamar at all? Yeah, mean he

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Speaker 4: is crashing down the line of scrimmage pair that.

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Speaker 2: Was that was a defensive plan. Usually he's doing.

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Speaker 3: It's where the Steelers zagged instead of Right, Okay, TJ,

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Speaker 3: you got the running back in these situations. Right, it

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Speaker 3: used to be TJ you got You've got Lamar in

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Speaker 3: these situations.

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Speaker 4: I think Lamar's eyes opened this big and said, if

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Speaker 4: that's if they're going, if I'm gonna watch DJ run

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Speaker 4: right across my face and I've got a handful of

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Speaker 4: yards to make anyone on the planet miss, I'm doing

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Speaker 4: that over and over and over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: And frankly, the Steelers din't play with a lot of energy,

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Speaker 4: and they were the weaker team. They were obviously the

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Speaker 4: weaker team, especially in the first half against what I

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Speaker 4: think is an awesome offense. And I think, frankly, I

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Speaker 4: think the Ravens might win Super Bowl. But when that

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Speaker 4: when Lamar became very aware of how the Steelers were

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Speaker 4: playing it, it makes it really tough.

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Speaker 3: And and there's an's there's more to that. And then

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Speaker 3: when they didn't play it that way. They just handed

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Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. I mean they not that they guessed right,

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Speaker 4: but they were always right. And you know, if you're

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Speaker 4: gonna play it that way, where I'm just using Wad

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Speaker 4: an example, he didn't do anything wrong, but he comes

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Speaker 4: crashing down the line of scrimmage, Well, Queen or your

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Speaker 4: phil guy has to scrape over, knowing that, and they

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Speaker 4: were always slow to it.

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Speaker 3: Well, we found out today Ian Rapaport reporting that Patrick

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Speaker 3: Queen had to get four bags of IV fluids up

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Speaker 3: step slow in that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, flat footed, worn out. Yeah, I mean he.

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Speaker 3: Looked I saw him after the game, and he looked

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Speaker 3: like he's exhausted. And I had no idea that is

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Speaker 3: adds up, It really adds up. I mean because there

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Speaker 3: were a handful of plays. I'm not saying he's dogging it,

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Speaker 3: but he barely moved, you know, like it was a

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Speaker 2: I mean, like they're playing with nothing in the tank.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the Steelers, you know, right, the Steelers

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Speaker 3: lose twenty eight fourteen. That was a defensive side of things.

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Speaker 3: Offensively there just wasn't. I didn't see the fight offensively

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Speaker 3: in the first half either. Guys weren't breaking tackles. Guys

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Speaker 3: weren't right fighting for first downs. I texted you every

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Speaker 4: When a tight end would run over defensive back, tight

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Speaker 4: end ward run a quarterback quite a few times, quarterback

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Speaker 2: Ye running back would run it just constant.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday I had I had to have texted you five

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Speaker 3: and it didn't happen the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: It's playoff football.

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Speaker 4: You're big and bruising in Flick Payne. I mean, Henry

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Speaker 4: did Tamiica, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like this is what it's

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing I mean. You know, when

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Speaker 3: you look at this Ravens offense coming into this game.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it last week.

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Speaker 2: You had to know.

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Speaker 3: You had to know that they were going to lean

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Speaker 3: didn't have the receivers, they didn't have no and why

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Speaker 3: the Steelers didn't have Joey Porter Junior travel with Bateman

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Speaker 4: Beyond me, and frankly, to take a step further, this

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Speaker 4: added up. I didn't know it until actually reading it today.

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Speaker 4: The Ravens were an eleven eleven percent of the time,

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Speaker 4: I mean an ungodly low number, like the lowest number

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Speaker 2: Now we saw that coming.

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Speaker 4: They don't have good receivers and the best guys out

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Speaker 4: and they got a bunch of big dudes. They had

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Speaker 4: And the Steelers still played nickel a lot over fifty

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing. So, I mean, I understand being concerned.

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Speaker 3: that's what the Chargers did to them in Jackson's first

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Speaker 4: Of Darwin James out there right right, just flooding the

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Speaker 3: The problem becomes Henry. Those guys having attack on Henry.

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Speaker 4: Right now, Henry has done I saw this today too,

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Speaker 4: that this December and beyond in his career is by

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Speaker 4: it's remarkably good. Every playoff game he's in, he's a hammer.

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Speaker 4: He's over one hundred and fifty yards repeatedly, the most

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Speaker 4: and they're not the same, you know, I mean, and

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Speaker 4: he does this to everybody. He gets stronger. Defenses just

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Speaker 4: It's harder to tackle big people in the cold. And

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Speaker 4: whan you match him with Lamar, I mean, the thunder

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Speaker 2: You knew that you played against. Right that being.

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Speaker 3: Said, I thought the backbreaker, you down fourteen to nothing

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Speaker 3: You would have had to boll to seven down fourteen

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Speaker 2: It's credit. He played a whale game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought Humphreys sold the pass interference call and.

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Speaker 2: Probably call more often than not, was my thought. But

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Speaker 3: Borderline, border line, But okay, he pushed off a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But show me a receiver that doesn't down the field

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Speaker 3: that Humphrey did a great job of selling it.

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Speaker 2: It happened. It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens go to the length of the field, but they

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Speaker 3: used all their timeouts. They get the ball with eleven

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Speaker 3: seconds left. Yeah, at the five, the Steelers have Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson himed in in the pocket. They've got hands on him.

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Speaker 3: I think Herbig had him. Yeah, and he escapes and

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Speaker 2: His time to throw on that play was like six

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Speaker 3: He's like, because they had no timeouts left right right,

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Speaker 3: If he's tackled in the field to play, that's it.

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Speaker 2: It's fourteen to nothing.

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Speaker 3: At the half and you feel the Steelers are going

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Speaker 3: all right, we just got badly out played in the

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Speaker 2: But it's only two scores. As we saw in the

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Speaker 4: Can't do is take a sack. Yeah, and they're beating

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Speaker 3: Nobody got him on the ground superhero, And to me,

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Speaker 3: that was just such a bad breaker because you had

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Speaker 3: even if he's for six seconds, if he scrambles in

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Speaker 3: he flips the ball out to the flat and Hill

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Speaker 3: sometimes you just have to tip. I mean the other

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Speaker 3: guys get paid too. Yeah, And I thought the guys

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Speaker 3: The other one was the killer. They get the sack

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Speaker 3: for for some reason, the Steelers make it twenty eight

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Speaker 2: There's water. They're back in the football game. But they

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Speaker 3: They get a sack on the Ravens. Don't even have

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Speaker 3: Henry on the field to open that nextar. They didn't

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Speaker 3: put him on the field that entire possession and they

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Speaker 3: go three and out. I'm sorry. They get the sack.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers get the sack on first down. This is

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Speaker 3: the open third quarter. I'm getting to be in the half, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They get the sack on first down. It's it's now

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Speaker 3: all right, let wat come in and then just sealed

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Speaker 2: He cut. He runs all the way across the field.

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Speaker 3: Nobody opened, nobody opened, nobody open, and then throws back

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Speaker 3: Agilar that caught that one for a twenty two yard game.

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Speaker 3: He caught it short of the sticks and goes out.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it was Tylan Wallace, either one, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: He threw about a sixteen yard pass and he ends

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Speaker 3: that or twenty two yards to convert the first down.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, their.

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Speaker 3: Guys are just getting past the line of the line

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Speaker 3: to gain and the Steelers guys didn't all day long.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I'm not gonna call him out. Well, fire

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Speaker 4: Muth was the perfect example of that. You know, like,

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Speaker 4: it's a little guy in front of you. Run him

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Speaker 2: In the first half where and he dropped the first

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Speaker 3: Now, the first one was it was fourth and long

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Speaker 3: And honestly, I mean, if you look at what Russell

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Speaker 4: I don't either. And again, there's so much Monday morning

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Speaker 2: That's what you brought him here for.

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Speaker 3: Time I mean the Ravens knew that as well, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big time.

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Speaker 3: Well, that would suggest that maybe they didn't. Teams just

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got to run to stay on the field,

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Speaker 3: I got some stats. I look some things up today.

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Speaker 3: what you just talked about there, and we'll do that

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Speaker 3: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive. You're on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back with

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Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 2: Radio, and we are back. I'm Dale Lolli.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt during the game

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Speaker 3: yesterday or during the after the AFC.

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Speaker 2: Game and all the FC game for yeah, yeah, we're completing.

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Speaker 3: I tweeted out and I just did this for comparisons purposes,

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Speaker 3: And people thought, oh, you're making an excuse for the Steelers. No,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't at all. If you read my ten thoughts

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Speaker 3: I said the AFC games were not competitive. Oh and

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Speaker 3: here's how non competitive.

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Speaker 2: They were the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers game was the closest of the TREA and

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Speaker 2: It was bad. And so I would say that the

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Speaker 4: Their first half might have been the worst of any

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Speaker 4: I mean, Denver Buffalo wasn't at that point, you know,

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Speaker 3: Maybe look up today, just the first round of the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: Know, right, They're not a powerhouse, right all right.

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Speaker 3: So Houston had four hundred and twenty nine yards of offense. Okay,

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Speaker 2: No, and they had three turnovers in that game too.

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Speaker 2: Was just both those defenses played well. Yeah, and green

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And Philly never really did much through the air.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, they ran sixty nine plays. Tampa ran forty four.

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Speaker 2: Time of possession.

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Speaker 3: Houston had the ball for thirty four to twenty five,

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Speaker 3: Forty one minutes and forty three almost forty two minutes.

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Speaker 2: Denver scored on the first drive, and they scored on

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Speaker 3: Philly won the time of possession thirty minutes and thirty

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Speaker 3: They controlled the game. Washington had it for thirty five.

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Speaker 4: Right, they controlled the game, Yeah, Philly. I mean the

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Speaker 2: Washington had it for thirty five to twenty six. Wow.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's massively important, and I think the later

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Speaker 3: The average is for the first five playoff games. These

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. You can't ask anything. I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Denver's defense is good, Green Bay's defense is good. But

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Speaker 3: You have to be able to perform offensively over the

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Speaker 2: You just have to.

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Speaker 3: Of the teams that lost yesterday in Saturday, Tampa averaged

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Speaker 3: six point five yards per play. Okay, if you look

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Speaker 3: at it, Washington averaged five point one. The Steelers averaged

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Speaker 3: six point two yards per play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they had some chunks, like Baltimore was at

446
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Speaker 2: six point four.

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Speaker 3: It's not like they were totally, but Baltimore was able

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Speaker 3: to continue lead more of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they could because.

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Speaker 3: They were able to get those first downs, right, you know,

451
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Speaker 3: some of the other ones they're not. You know, Houston

452
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Speaker 3: was at six point one yards per play. La was

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Speaker 3: at four point eight.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Buffalo had a big jem too. I mean

455
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Speaker 2: they won by a million.

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Speaker 3: Again, Philly won that game because they turned They turned

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Speaker 3: Green Bay over four times on the opening kickoff.

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Speaker 2: That's just a killer that was. I thought there was

459
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Speaker 2: gonna be a blowout from that point.

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Speaker 3: But the winning teams turned the ball over three times,

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Speaker 3: the losers turned it over nine, and all three of

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Speaker 3: the turnovers for the winning teams were by Houston. I

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Speaker 3: say Houston had a bunch early. Yeah, Okay, early None

464
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Speaker 3: of the other winning teams turned the ball over. So

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Speaker 3: when you talk about turnovers mattering.

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Speaker 4: True year after year, decade after decade, right especially, I'll

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Speaker 4: say this all week. Everything gets magnified in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you think it's a trend in the

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Speaker 4: regular season, multiply times one thousand in the playoffs because

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Speaker 4: everything's you can't get away with. He turned the ball

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Speaker 4: over a couple times against the Raiders. You know, the

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Speaker 4: Chiefs can do that. You know the can do that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but you can't do that against the

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Speaker 4: Bills and Ravens and Texans, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna get multi it's going to so.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Steelers in Denver didn't turn the ball over,

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Speaker 3: right in those games. They just didn't have the football.

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Speaker 2: Didn't know football, and didn't produce first downs.

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Speaker 3: And didn't produce enough first down right, yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: The opponent from doing the same, just plays.

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Speaker 3: Run, plays run. I think the Ravens in the first

482
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Speaker 3: half of that game were seven of eight on third downs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were. They were miraculous because you have Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and okay, it's third and two, Well, we need

485
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Speaker 3: two yards, lamar go get us two yards.

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Speaker 4: Or even just eagle push push or saw a lot

487
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Speaker 4: of tight ends taking snaps and getting that one yard,

488
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Speaker 4: you know, the things like that.

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Speaker 2: Just keep the chains moving. Make them play at least

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Speaker 2: three more plays. You know, that's another minute and a

491
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Speaker 2: half or whatever. It's your defense is standing on you

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Speaker 2: a long time in the middle of January.

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Speaker 3: I am now the belief that playing defense, particularly in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, is all about playing less.

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Speaker 2: De However, you have to get there. You have to

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Speaker 2: play less defense. Yeah, I have to.

497
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Speaker 3: So your offense has to be one that moves the change.

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Speaker 4: And especially in the playoffs from a defensive standpoint, because

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Speaker 4: there's Mahomes and there's Allen and maybe Stroud's not at

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Speaker 4: that level, but all the quarterbacks are good. Like you're

501
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Speaker 4: not going to run into too many Rudolphs in the

502
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Speaker 4: play I mean, there aren't many that those guys. If

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Speaker 4: you're on the field, they're going to figure you out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you know, even at that, like I mentioned and

506
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Speaker 3: I got my things, my play is confused. The Steelers

507
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Speaker 3: cut the score to twenty eight fourteen in late in

508
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Speaker 3: the third quarter, so they're in the game. It's twenty fourteen,

509
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Speaker 3: they get they're alive.

510
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Speaker 2: They're alive.

511
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Speaker 3: The Ravens come out and call they don't have Henry

512
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Speaker 3: on the field and call three consecutive passing plays even

513
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: know they're running, well, they're running the ball well now

514
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 3: Lamar scrambled for six yards on one of them, but

515
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Speaker 3: it was a pass play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I mean there's always that trump card too,

517
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Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, what are they doing here?

518
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Speaker 3: This is and so they end up punting and the

519
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: Steelers get the ball back at like the I think

520
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Speaker 3: it was around their own forty and I'm like, they

521
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Speaker 3: just made this a ball game by doing that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like you have Shack and it's me

523
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Speaker 4: guarding Shack and he's just dunking on my head.

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Speaker 2: And then you decide to check up.

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Speaker 3: Four threason right right, right right, like give it to

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Speaker 3: the big guy, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that to me is, you know, Okay, the

529
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Speaker 3: Steelers found a way to get off the field, get

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Speaker 3: your offense back on the field.

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Speaker 2: Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I think they give up a sack on on that

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Speaker 3: one on second down, yeah that you know, they got

534
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Speaker 3: a first down, then give up the second down sack

535
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Speaker 3: and put him you know too far and they had

536
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Speaker 3: to end up having to punt the ball back again.

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Speaker 2: Yea, it's just.

538
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Speaker 3: You have to the offense and defense have to work

539
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Speaker 3: hand in hand. I mean, really, it's a team game.

540
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Speaker 4: It's eleven guys on the field and they have to

541
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Speaker 4: compliment one another, and you can't be super heavy one

542
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Speaker 4: way or the other. Not that either unit was great

543
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Speaker 4: for the Steelers, but you're right. I mean, I think

544
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Speaker 4: during this five game losing streak against playoff caliber teams,

545
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Speaker 4: you really see it. You know, like there were games

546
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Speaker 4: or the offense played pretty well in that game, or

547
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: defense played really well in that game, but it wasn't

548
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Speaker 4: a total team effort, and you end up losing time

549
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Speaker 4: possession over and over and over and again. That's it's

550
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Speaker 4: a symptom. You know, how do I fix my time

551
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Speaker 4: of possession? Well, your right guard blocks better, and your

552
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Speaker 4: nose tackles stouter, blah blah blah blah blah.

553
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Speaker 2: But in the end, that needs fixed. I mean, to

554
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Speaker 2: beat the good teams, yeah, no, there's no doubt. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I just look at you know, the some of

556
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Speaker 3: the you know, especially in the AFC, the quarterbacks still

557
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Speaker 3: standing mahomes.

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Speaker 4: That's a good yeah, so this is disheartening, but the

559
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Speaker 4: Steelers got eliminated by Lamar, by Allen, and by Mahomes

560
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Speaker 4: the last three years, and frankly, that's probably going to

561
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Speaker 4: keep up because they're unbelievably good.

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Speaker 3: The only teams that have beaten those guys are each

563
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Speaker 3: other for the most part.

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Speaker 4: And I'll throw Burrow in there too, because I think

565
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Speaker 4: he's the only quarterback on the planet that's as good

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Speaker 4: as those three. There's four elite quarterbacks. And I was

567
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 4: joking on a different show, it's almost like having Bo

568
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Speaker 4: Jackson and Techo Ball like the most It's such a

569
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Speaker 4: quarterback driven league. It's such an advantage over everyone you

570
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Speaker 4: play when you have a superhero at that position, and

571
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Speaker 4: defenses can't they get figured out? And they I mean,

572
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Speaker 4: these four are are historic type quarterbacks all at once,

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Speaker 4: all in the freaking AFC, two of them in the division.

574
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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to figure out a new way of

575
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Speaker 4: playing football to compete with those guys in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah,

576
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Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're remarkably good. And along those lines,

577
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Speaker 4: just in the AFC. With respect to Houston's win, I

578
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Speaker 4: bet it plays out like this that there's three big

579
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Speaker 4: dogs in the AFC. Two of them wipe the floor

580
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Speaker 4: with Denver and beat the Steelers pretty bad. Houston might

581
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Speaker 4: go on to change my mind. I just think they

582
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Speaker 4: played it. They just didn't play.

583
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Speaker 3: They played a team that turned it over four times.

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Speaker 4: If Houston would have played Baltimore or Buffalo, we'd be

585
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Speaker 4: talking about them too. I mean, they just happened to

586
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Speaker 4: not play one of the powerhouse.

587
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Speaker 3: Well, and we talked about the you know, the Steelers'

588
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: best path to victory was to play Houston in the

589
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Speaker 3: first of the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: And I would have picked them to win that game.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I might pick them a win if they

592
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Speaker 4: played today.

593
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Speaker 3: I thought that they would give the Ravens more of

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Speaker 3: a game.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, of course, you know, right right right, we thought

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Speaker 2: that would be a close game. But I do think

597
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Speaker 2: when we look back at the history of the AFC.

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Speaker 4: In the twenty twenty four season, we're gonna say there's

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Speaker 4: three powerhouses, and Kansas City's gonna mop the floor with Houston,

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Speaker 4: and fortunately for them, they're gonna have to play one

601
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Speaker 4: of them. Baltimore and Buffalo are gonna have to play

602
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Speaker 4: two of them to get to the super Bowl. And

603
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: that's the difference of seeding, and those three teams are

604
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Speaker 4: really really good led by elite quarterbacks, and elite's a

605
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: big work.

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Speaker 2: I think they're really really good because of the quarterback.

607
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Speaker 3: To me too, I mean, I think if you took

608
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Speaker 3: any of those quarterbacks and put them with this Steelers roster, it.

609
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Speaker 4: Might be I see in the league. Yeah, one hundred

610
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: percent believe that. And I like the Steelers roster. I

611
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 4: like the Steelers makeup, but I might rather be the

612
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 4: Bengals just because it's so hard to find that guy

613
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Speaker 4: I might give. I was talking to my my buddy

614
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 4: Peacock talking about the Niners. He's like, I might trade

615
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: I might not. He's gone on a rant with the Niners.

616
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't think I want to play play

617
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: or pay party. I want to trade Bosa all these

618
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: dudes and maybe get the next stud quarterback because that's

619
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Speaker 3: kind of like the only way to win it all

620
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Speaker 3: in this league. The problem is there's there's not that

621
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Speaker 3: stud quarterback in this draft this year. If you can't

622
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Speaker 3: be it's not that that's how I countered.

623
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Speaker 2: I'm like, it's great to be bad the year Burrow

624
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: Herbert to Hurtz.

625
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 4: Love comes out, and maybe only one of them turns

626
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 4: out to be elite, but at least you have a crack.

627
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Speaker 2: It's great to be the year river has been Eli

628
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: comes out, you know, be bad the right year. I mean,

629
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Speaker 2: it's not just tank tank tank tank tank. Now maybe

630
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: next year it's great. This year doesn't look like it,

631
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: you know, that's for sure. But or even to be

632
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: bad this last year, I like the chances of someone

633
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: out of Williams May, Jayden Daniels, you know, Panix, et cetera,

634
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: maybe be in the next one in that group, you know,

635
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: But so much of it's just lock, you know what

636
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: I mean?

637
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Speaker 3: Yeah, tanking just a tank, and well we're gonna tank

638
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: and go get a quarterback. We better have a pretty

639
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: damn good idea, ay of what who that quarterback is

640
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: going to be. And tanking it doesn't guarantee you of anything.

641
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Speaker 4: It can be a disease, right, I mean, and ruin

642
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: the walls you know that you painted so pretty, you know.

643
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: And it also becomes a situation, Okay, we won three games,

644
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: somebody else won two, yeah, or.

645
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Speaker 2: We lost with the one. We can't control what every

646
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: what everybody else is doing. Too. There's some miserable teams

647
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: out there.

648
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: Look at how many times the number one overall pick

649
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: in the draft this year changed hands? What about four

650
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: times in the last month of the season. Yeah, yeah,

651
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: because there was a lot of bad out there.

652
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Speaker 4: Right, I mean it looked like Carolina was on pace

653
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: to not win a game all year. Well then their

654
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 4: quarterback played okay, and they're not even close to having

655
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 4: the first pick, you know. Like the Saints are a

656
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: good example to me, Like they've maxed out their credit cards,

657
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 4: they've went to that a team like that, I would

658
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: quote Tank, you know, Cameron Jordan, Tyron Mathow, Davis Carr.

659
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Speaker 4: Thank you for your service, Kamara, But we just need

660
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Speaker 4: draft picks and maybe we'll even start Spencer Rattler next

661
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: year and end up with Arch Banning or whatever, you

662
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: know what I mean, maybe you know, but man.

663
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: That's a dangerous slope too, you know. But there's no

664
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: guarantee again him, there's no That's the thing.

665
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: You could be the worst team in the league and

666
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: not the first your number.

667
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: If you're number two, yeah, somebody else can still trade

668
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: ahead of you and take that quarterback, or the team

669
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: that's there take the quarterback.

670
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: You're guaranteed a nothing, nothing. It's a brutal world.

671
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: Now there are some examples. You know, Alan and Mahomes

672
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: weren't the first.

673
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: Pick in the draft, or was Jackson? Right right?

674
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: You know, So it doesn't mean it bothers me a

675
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: little bit. Steelers are stuck in purgatory. There's no chance

676
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: to ever get their next guy.

677
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, Lamar went thirty first. The Chiefs moved

678
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 2: up six spots to get my home six. They went

679
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: up from twenty seven, but twenty seven.

680
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: I was thinking they were like the Bills. I think

681
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: the Bills was more like a They moved up for

682
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: Allan too. Yeah, I know, Case was a playoff team.

683
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

684
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 4: They weren't a powerhouse, but they were a playoff team.

685
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 4: There's one you love. It doesn't look like this draft's

686
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 4: that one to do it. I mean, but this is

687
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: a conversation probably from a year from now. You know,

688
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 4: the only one other avenues to get that guy.

689
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: The only guy who intrigues me in this draft, and

690
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: this is we're well, plenty of time to talk about this,

691
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: But the only guy who intrigues me about what he

692
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: might be in this draft is Jaylen Milroll.

693
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: Because he could be that, because he could be he.

694
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: Could be that next guy in that Lamar Jaden Daniels

695
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: type guy. Yeah, which is what But again, that's what

696
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: That's what Indianapolis was trying to get when they went

697
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: out and trade it up to get Richardson.

698
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: And he hasn't been that.

699
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: No, there's no guarantee, no guarantee, but I definitely think

700
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: and it won't be this year probably, well maybe it

701
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: is Milroe.

702
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: Who knows that.

703
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: You and I I think the duration we do there

704
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: or at least the next couple of years talking drafts,

705
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: Steelers or not. And I felt this way for a

706
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: couple of years. I'm Dave Kingman at the plate. I mean,

707
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: I don't I don't need a single. I don't need

708
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: a double. I am swinging as hard as I can.

709
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: And if I strike out six times in a row

710
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: on the Richardson's of the world that don't make it,

711
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: and I get.

712
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: One Allen, I win.

713
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: That's why I'm never gonna kill the Steelers for taking

714
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett at twenty at twenty at twenty, you didn't

715
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: trade up to go get him. You didn't, you didn't

716
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: make a move, You didn't mortgage your future to go

717
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: to use a picked to take a quarterback in the

718
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: first round, and you got out of it new year,

719
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: and you got out of it quickly enough that Okay,

720
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna pivot and go.

721
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: So you didn't.

722
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: You didn't try to four years down the line, we're

723
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: gonna keep trying to make this work. No, right, Right,

724
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: that's going to be the situation Indianapolis finds itself in.

725
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: For example, just using them as example, like are they

726
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: going to run it back again with Richardson next year?

727
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Probably one more year. He completed forty seven percent of

728
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: his passes this year, right, but he actually regressed. But

729
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: that was Josh Allen his rookie year.

730
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: I understand, you know what I mean. Alan didn't regress.

731
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Speaker 4: No, that's the thing, right, I guess that was year

732
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Speaker 4: two for Richardson. But Allen was a bad player in

733
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Speaker 4: his rookie year.

734
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Speaker 3: He was he was not the guy that he is now.

735
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: But they put pieces around him. Right, That's the other

736
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: thing that you have to have in place, is pieces.

737
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: But I like your Milrow thought like if he has

738
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: a high metachlorane count, yes he could be a Jedi.

739
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: You know, he's good and maybe it doesn't work, but

740
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: he's got you know, he has the trait passes the

741
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: eye test of the traits that you're looking for.

742
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: Right, that he could be a special player that's almost

743
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: impossible to defend. There's a couple of them walking the

744
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: planet right now, unfortunately too of them on the division.

745
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: Right, And you know, can justin Fields be that? I

746
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: thought so when he came out in the draft. Yeah,

747
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: I thought he might be that kind of player. I

748
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: loved him, loved him. He hasn't proven to be but

749
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: he hasn't proven to be that in terms of books.

750
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: But it's there's some schafters written.

751
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, now maybe you have a better idea that. Okay,

752
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: you know he's he's sat and he's learned behind. Say

753
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: what you want about Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson's a pro, right,

754
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: he he handled him.

755
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: That's why I wanted to make the change and I

756
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: condone that, right.

757
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: And he's been that guy who can be to steal

758
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 3: from your analogy there, he can be your obi wan

759
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: kenobi yah to adjustin Field's you know, young paddle.

760
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: Maybe he can't be Vader, yeah, but he could be

761
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: a real solid Jedi for you. Yeah, right, all.

762
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: Right, So that's gonna be the question that the Steelers

763
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: have to ask themselves this offseason is Okay, do we

764
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: try to run this back with both guys? Do we

765
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: try to just pick? We have to pick one or

766
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: the other, you know, and then which which one is it?

767
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 2: And again, I don't love going fishing in this quarter.

768
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm not fit.

769
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not throwing them both back and trying

770
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: over again. I'm not doing that.

771
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: You mean, go fish on both of them. I'm not. Yeah,

772
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going.

773
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 3: Okay, We're just gonna try somebody else, Like we're gonna

774
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 3: what trade for Derek Carr? Yeah, that doesn't That doesn't

775
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: appeal to me at all. I mean, I'm Jameis Winston.

776
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: No, you can get Kirk Cousins for the Russell Wilson deal,

777
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 4: but that doesn't excite me at all, not at all.

778
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 4: Right now, the only one that I have a little

779
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 4: bit of interest in is if you said the Vikings

780
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: will give you McCarthy for your first round pick.

781
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: See, I don't know that he has special he doesn't. Yeah,

782
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: he doesn't do that for me. He's at least his books.

783
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: He might be Mac. He might be Mac Jones.

784
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: I didn't love him coming out. Yeah, problem, he might

785
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: be mac Jones. He was a good player with a

786
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: lot of talent around him.

787
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 4: Now, maybe if you told me, and this is an

788
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 4: April conversation because I don't know enough now, but if

789
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: you said you get Fields for thirteen million and mill

790
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 4: Row in the first round, well those are two legit

791
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: bites of the apple that one of them might be special.

792
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: But we might be talking about Milroe by then, as

793
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 4: like the first pick in the draft.

794
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: I mean, you just don't know, right, I.

795
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: Mean, now, yeah, he's an interesting player now, but we

796
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 4: might be laughing that he laughed.

797
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: All of a sudden.

798
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: He's available at ten, as Mahomes was.

799
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: Right.

800
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: Now, we can talk, but you don't know how that's

801
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: going to work. So you better have a plan in

802
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: place going into the draft. That can't be your only

803
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 3: right avenue to get a quarterback.

804
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: You just can first or second. You know, you don't

805
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: have that power.

806
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're going to have to The Steelers are

807
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: going to have to make a decision about how they

808
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: want to proceed moving forward.

809
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: Before the draft.

810
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: Oh well before the draft that happens in March, you know,

811
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: the Marching March is free agency.

812
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's happening now, and it's obviously a critical component.

813
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: But something that's going to be fun is you laid

814
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: it out well in texta to I mean, we'll talk

815
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: about it for months now. They have a lot of

816
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: cap space, they have a lot of options.

817
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: But easily create more.

818
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: You can easily create more. I mean there's a lot

819
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 4: of stuff they can do now. We can fight all

820
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 4: day long. Can you still go into Kansas City in

821
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 4: the AFC Championship Game next year the year after with

822
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 4: Wilson or whomever in a really good roster around him

823
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: and even get that far.

824
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

825
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if you can ever beat Superman.

826
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 4: I mean the league is really structured that way right now.

827
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 4: Brady was that guy for a long time with different superpowers,

828
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 4: but those guys rule the world. I mean, it had

829
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 4: to be like going against Jordan.

830
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: No fun, Yeah, no fun at all. Let's get through

831
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly.

832
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Drive. You're on the Steelers audio network, Matt,

833
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 3: and I'll be back with more right after this.

834
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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

835
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

836
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

837
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: And we are back on Dale Lolly.

838
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt they were mulling

839
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: over some quarterback stuff there in the previous segment, and

840
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 3: I went back and looked because a lot of people

841
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: like to have revisionist history on stuff, and so other

842
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: Steelers should have done something to do better than you know,

843
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: bend the last couple of years. Now, I will say

844
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, leading up to the draft, yeah, I

845
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: mocked Lamar Jackson to the Steelers and got crushed for it.

846
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: No, you're crushed for it.

847
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: I'm an idiot. He'll never be a good quarterback. He's

848
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: says he's that, he's.

849
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: A running back, he's a receiver. Yeah, blah blah. And

850
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: they visited with Lamar. From I understand, they did right.

851
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: They liked him, they visited with him. You know they

852
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: didn't take him. Yeah, and now, wow, why didn't they

853
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: take Lamar? Well, when I'm again, when I brought that

854
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: up in that season a week before the draft, my

855
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: next to last mock draft, I got crushed for it.

856
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 2: Sure, crushed. So and I get at that point.

857
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: You had Roethlisberger coming off of one of his best seasons,

858
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: he hadn't had any elbow issues, didn't know that he

859
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: was thirty five years old, right right, he was thirty

860
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: You're trying to win, right, So I get it in

861
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: that regard, it didn't make a lot of sense.

862
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: I saw both sides of the argument.

863
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no question, and it's easy to say in

864
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, you should have done that.

865
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: You know, we also saw how Roethlisberger kind of treated

866
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph, who they did take, was not super kind

867
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: to him because he saw him as a threat. Would

868
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: he have treated Lamar Jackson in the first round the

869
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 3: same way?

870
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: So freaking loosely, right right? Absolutely?

871
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: And I'm sure you've gotten so many comments in the

872
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: last forty eight hours or whatever, but I've gotten things

873
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 4: like how could the Steelers not in Baker Mayfield. I'm like, well,

874
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: he wasn't that player. Then he's gotten better, you know

875
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, So, these are some of the guys.

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Speaker 4: These are some of the free agents who were available

877
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: this year. Over the last few years.

878
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, twenty twenty two, the best guy available was

879
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: Derek Carr. Twenty twenty three, Gino Smith was available, was

880
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: good sort of, but he resigned with the Seahawks for

881
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: three years and one hundred and five million. Where you've

882
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: got to pay Gino Smith one hundred and five million

883
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 3: dollars over three years or one hundred and ten because

884
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 3: maybe he likes it in Seattle, right, I say you

885
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: have to outbid them. I mean, if you remember the

886
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: player at that time, he was not you know, I

887
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: mean he's a borderline Pro Bowl fifth seventh best player

888
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 3: in the NFC, you know, good that position. Jimmy Garoppolo

889
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three got sixty seven and a half

890
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: million dollars over three years to leave the San Francisco

891
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: forty nine ers for the Raiders.

892
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy Garoppolo was in his base, out of the league.

893
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: I know he's in the league, but barely. Yeah.

894
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: Then you had Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield who were

895
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: both available, but both were coming off of miserable nothing

896
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: right it, had done nothing in their career.

897
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like signing Daniel Jones this year.

898
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be the same the same thing, and

899
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: somebody's probably gonna do that. Looking at this one and

900
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: he might hit. Well, it work for Sam Donald and

901
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield.

902
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 4: I think that's a path a lot of teams are

903
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: going to take because there's not a lot of other options.

904
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 4: Where can I get the next Baker and Donald? Yeah,

905
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: and I don't know you can. I mean, it doesn't

906
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: like it's not like this happens every year.

907
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: We've seen this.

908
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: You know, you could say the same thing about Well,

909
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: Gino Smith, he reclaimed his career. He was Okay, that's

910
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: three guys out of one hundred quarterbacks who've been drafted

911
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: over the last ten years.

912
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 4: And frankly, if the Steelers would have walked into Baltimore

913
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 4: with Donald, Gino or Baker yesterday or Saturday, it might

914
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: have been the same result. Yeah, it doesn't ensure that

915
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 4: you're going to beat the superheroes.

916
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: Right, this year, your choices were cousins. He got a lot.

917
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: He got way overpaid Mayfield, if you remember, re signed

918
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 3: with Tampa before he hit free agency. He got one

919
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars over three years.

920
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is a great deal for them. I mean

921
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: that that's a win for the box.

922
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: So then your pivot in that situation for the Steelers

923
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: was what they did.

924
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got and the prices they paid were ridiculously great. Yeah,

925
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 4: there's an asterisk in a good way for the Steelers.

926
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: I mean because the quarterback room costs nothing, right, you know,

927
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: I mean that's part of the equation.

928
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: But don't just tell me that, oh, they should have

929
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: they should have had done this, or they should have

930
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: done that.

931
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: You gotta give me names.

932
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: Give me somebody who was legitimately on the market where

933
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: they could have legitimately drafted in those years.

934
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: There's not much. There's not much.

935
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: The Kenny Pickett draft was the Kenny Pickett draft. Yeah,

936
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: he was the best quarterback in the draft. And don't

937
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: give me Brock Purty. Brock Purty was the last flipping

938
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: guy drafted that year for a reason, right, the forty

939
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: nine Ers didn't know that that was going to be

940
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: the case, or they A wouldn't have traded up for

941
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: Trey Lance and b would have taken him well before that.

942
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: And he's a systems quarterback.

943
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure you're scoring any more points or

944
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: of anything you can result with b Rock Party.

945
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: And no Rock Party goes into Baltimore yesterday or Saturday

946
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: with the Steelers roster and gets his head handed to him.

947
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no question. There aren't many answers. I mean,

948
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: there just aren't. Now a conversation that is much more

949
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: geared towards the off season. I know it's the off

950
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 4: season today, but it's reaction Monday. So how do you

951
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 4: best compete without one of them?

952
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that in the second hour. Yeah, okay,

953
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 3: but that's what you have to figure out this offseason

954
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: because what you're doing isn't working. You've lost to those

955
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: three quarterbacks the last three times you've been in the playoffs,

956
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: all on their field, different right, all in their stadiums,

957
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: And that's a part of it. You've got to win

958
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: enough game so that you don't have to go to

959
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: those places. At some point, you're gonna have to unless

960
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 3: you're your ultimate goal. Yeah yeah, unless unless you somehow,

961
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: you know, get the number one overall seed. At some

962
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: points you're gonna have to beat one of those guys

963
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: in the postseason. And so how do you best do that?

964
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 4: And I remember, even like Tannehill, Vrabel, Arthur Smith got

965
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 4: the number one seed with Derrick Henry and they played

966
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 4: their style and didn't bear that much root in the playoffs.

967
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: You know, they won a game.

968
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 4: Good team, they had number one seed and handed to

969
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 4: Henry and they had a good defense. And still Mahomes

970
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: is lumin out there. Yeah, Jackie Ripperds still a looming

971
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: around the corner, you know.

972
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Speaker 3: So there are ways I think that you can do

973
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: this and give yourself a better chance, give yourself a chance.

974
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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that now. Our number two, he is

975
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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to

976
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Speaker 3: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and

977
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 3: now will be back with our number two right after

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Speaker 3: this