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Speaker 1: on all your success as you know, as a newer artist.

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Speaker 1: For you to be finding success in these venues like early,

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Speaker 1: that's so dope and much respect to you, especially in

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Speaker 2: Super and to be helping bring R and B back.

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Speaker 2: You revived one of the artists that's really reviving true

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Speaker 3: Bringing their feels. You know what. It's always been a

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Speaker 3: dream of mine to sort of like breath life into

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, At the level that I'm used

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Speaker 3: to and that we like to consume music at, it

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Speaker 3: just ain't It ain't the math ain't mathing. So I'm

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Speaker 3: now I'm sitting pretty comfortable, you know, serving my people,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What what other genre of music or maybe even

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Speaker 2: hip hop that you would like to like tap into.

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Speaker 3: I would love to tap into rap, And you know,

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm not a rapper, but the way

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Speaker 3: and give them like those R and B mainstream pop hits,

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Speaker 3: a singer. Yeah, pop music obviously, that's where I started

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Speaker 3: in this game, writing pop songs for other artists. Country music,

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Speaker 3: I'm also done. I had a lot of success there.

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Speaker 3: I got a number one in country music with Carry

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Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on number one country music.

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Speaker 2: That now we can't just act like you say that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I mean I would do rock.

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Speaker 3: I love rock, actually that I love classical music. I

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: For you to be doing music almost fifteen years and

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Speaker 3: I'm grateful. I'm grateful because it's billions of people in

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Speaker 3: the world, right so I feel like I'm going to

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Speaker 3: be working until I'm done, like until I die, to

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Speaker 3: make sure that my music and my creations touch every

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Speaker 3: ain't never like you don't know who I am? Like

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Speaker 3: and I learned that from Mariah Carey. She walked into

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Speaker 3: She introduced herself, Like we don't know who she is.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So you never know. Man,

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Speaker 3: If it's people that still don't know who Beyonce is,

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of words to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what do you say, like being in a

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Speaker 2: game for fifteen years and like you said, it's still

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Speaker 2: do you say that, like, new artists are people that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an issue, but I don't think it's just

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Speaker 3: you gotta keep pushing, you gotta keep moving. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: That just means that they don't have the capacity to

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Speaker 1: Right now, you got one of those songs I won't

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Speaker 1: it's like that genre with Jill Scott is, like you

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Speaker 4: Clean up the house? Whether you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: Like I can make love to this, I.

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Speaker 2: Can clean up sar this like loving?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what is money? Long's ingredients to doing something like that?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, just being real, like I'm I'm a lover.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to fight you. I will run you

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Speaker 3: I think maybe that's what resonated with people, is just

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Speaker 3: and what can I curse him?

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Speaker 4: You can say whatever the fuck you want to.

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Speaker 3: What niggas ain't doing just ain't shit, Like it's so

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Speaker 3: like it don't matter how mad I am with my husband.

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Speaker 3: I'm still at the end of the day, I want

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Speaker 3: my fairy tale. And so if I want my fairy tale,

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Speaker 3: I gotta create it. I have to create the space

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Speaker 3: That's what it's work. It's not just oh my god,

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Speaker 3: It is a relationship, you know what I'm saying. Like,

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Speaker 3: you ain't gonna always like your boss, but your boss

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, how do you manage them? Times?

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Speaker 2: Like you said, when you might not always like each other,

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Speaker 3: So you like, just go to your corner, just like, fam,

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Speaker 3: And then when you get hungry, hey, what you trying

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Speaker 3: But that's still my family. So my husband and my

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Speaker 3: But it's just like this is the person who I'm

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Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people won't agree with that.

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Speaker 2: No, well, you know, back to them music I wanted

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Speaker 3: I don't be willing to run into nobody because if

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Speaker 3: run into nobody like they hear the work, y'all do

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Speaker 3: y'all thing. But I do want to see Kodak okay,

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Speaker 3: I want to see meg. I want to see Jannin

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Speaker 2: Anybody you would look to our like to collab with

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Speaker 3: I would love to collab with anybody who's on my

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Speaker 3: Like I'm in this space right now of just complete authenticity.

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Speaker 3: If it's meant for me, it's meant for me.

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Speaker 1: If it's not, Sayonara, I see how she said that

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Speaker 1: she's easy to get in touch with, like you are

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Speaker 1: money loan.

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Speaker 3: Right, No, it doesn't matter, Like I just made a

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's all kecky oh hey girl in

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Speaker 3: be like the management, the lawyers, but I don't be

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Speaker 3: with all that. Do you want to do it or not?

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Speaker 4: That's a hell of an attitude to take.

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Speaker 3: I mean, cause I'm straight. I know where my help

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Speaker 3: I'm still gonna be good. You know.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask that as an artist, like would

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Speaker 3: First. I feel like energy is first. So I don't

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Speaker 3: they talk about other people gossiping, hating, like, all right,

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Speaker 3: this might not go that far because I don't be

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Speaker 3: time I had a moment in a studio where Ja

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it all figured out.

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Speaker 3: Actually got a little bit, not a lot.

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Speaker 1: So, like you were talking about marriage earlier, how is

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Speaker 3: No, it's actually better because I don't care about no

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter what anybody thinks about me. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: And that's because you have that person in your corner

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to impress the noney'all right, if you

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Speaker 3: don't like it, okay, Like I can admit when I

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Speaker 2: That's good though. I think that that's something you really need. Like,

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Speaker 3: Or just your mama and daddy, your mama, you need that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I also think if I if I was out

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Speaker 1: That is dope. That's dope. But what more can we

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a lot more vocal, you know, sharing

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Speaker 3: right and so it gets frustrating because it's like, you

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Speaker 3: So instead of complaining about that, I'm gonna be the

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Speaker 3: pretty well. I got lots more music. I'm gonna drop

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Speaker 4: What the title? Can we get the title?

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Speaker 3: The title of the album?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Can I give them the title of the album?

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Speaker 3: She's Shaka said yeah, okay, Shaka Zulu. If this don't

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Speaker 3: is called Everything Is a Game.

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Speaker 2: Everything Is Again.

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Speaker 3: Everything is a Game.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so that's exclusive.

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Speaker 2: I never told nobody that, okay, because it's rules to

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Speaker 3: A game, all a game. And if you don't know

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know we're kicking it with back with,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I used to smoke. I used to have, you know,

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Speaker 4: Time in the day.

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Speaker 2: I don't do it no more, though, Okay, well, I

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Speaker 2: need to know how many Backwood flavors are there, oh, ship,

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Speaker 2: just take again.

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Speaker 3: I only know like four. Okay, we'll name me. I

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Speaker 3: it's like some honey. Okay, that was regular original back

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Speaker 3: the smoke shops. You know what I'm saying. How many

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Speaker 1: Actually it's three and five and sometimes too.

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Speaker 3: It just depend on Yeah, the pack you get right.

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Speaker 4: And sometimes one. I've seen the one guy.

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Speaker 3: Out or original, because the real smoker don't want no flavor,

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Speaker 4: There you go, period.

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Speaker 1: There you're telling them myself. They I'm working on some

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Speaker 1: like some Backwoods reparations. Yeah, yeah, the ones that got

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Speaker 1: broken in transit. We're trying to negotiate what that number

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Speaker 4: But it's just real friendly right now.

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Speaker 3: And I'd be so mad when you buy a pack

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I be mad when you buy the pack and

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Speaker 1: they only give you one dog skin bad Wood.

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Speaker 2: And the rest of them.

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Speaker 3: I ain't never like my mix.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because the dark ones burned longer, the dark

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Speaker 1: a little stronger.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Lee, I love him. We got Keith Lee.

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Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh Keith Lee.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Critic, Keith Lee. Come over here. We'll do an interview

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Speaker 4: with Keith Lee.

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Speaker 3: He's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Money Loan, we appreciate you stopping through the eighty five south.

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Speaker 3: Of the show on the show to have me come back.

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Speaker 4: Will you come on the show.

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Speaker 3: I will.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get your people in so you can come on.

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Speaker 2: You so much stopping about Backwoods backstage one music Fast,

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Speaker 2: it's lit.

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Speaker 1: It's lit, Money Loan, you were out of here.