1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: It's the Foul Territory postgame show presented by the Box 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: one app. Go sign up. What just happened? That is 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: the face of Orian Kirkering, Eric Kratz and Phillies fans 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: across the globe. Eric, you're catching Orian Kirkering. That happens. 5 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: You jog out to him and you say, you gotta 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: say something, and you gotta be quick. The dude's gonna 7 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: melt onto the ground. 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: I mean, we're walking off together, and I'm gonna put 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: my arm around him and be like, you know what, 10 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: You're still a great person, Like you don't even know 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: like terrible. I am physically like I had like a 12 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: sick feeling in my chest, like did he not know 13 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: how many outs there were? Did he not? I don't, Scott. 14 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: I am speechless right now. 15 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: It's a way to end a ballgame. And on the 16 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Dodgers side, they're ecstatic they don't have to go back 17 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. This was a brilliantly pitched game. Contact was 18 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: made by Andy pajis Ke, Kay Hernandez walked, Max Munsey 19 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: looped a single up the middle. There was action right 20 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: Tommy Edmund with a knock. Kim replaced him as a 21 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: pinch runner, plenty of action here in the home eleventh. 22 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: Ryan Kirkring. 23 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: Joked, it happened, It happened, It happened, and it happened 24 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: because the Dodgers just kept having deep at bats. They 25 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: just didn't I'm not gonna say they didn't give in 26 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: like Lozada was so nasty like to give up a 27 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: hit to Max Munsey in that's situation. Max was hitting 28 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: like one fifty something or one sixty something against lefties 29 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: this year, like a down year against lefties for Max 30 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: with not a lot of power, gets a ball through there, 31 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: bringing O'Ryan kirkering in to me, is the play and 32 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: keyk put together an unbelievable at bat, took ball four 33 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: something that you know what, maybe earlier in the game, 34 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: maybe the shadows would have gotten in a way, but 35 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: it's all set up. It's okay, Like it's totally fine. 36 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: The base is open even when Max, before Max stole 37 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: second or defensive indifference had you had the base open 38 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: so you didn't have to give into Kik Pajes's struggle 39 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: bus this series, and you get the ball back to 40 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: you and he threw it home. He threw it home, 41 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: and now they're going home. 42 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. And of course you're going to look 43 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: at this one play. It doesn't mean that the Dodgers 44 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't have walked off the Philly anyway. I mean, this 45 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: was fantastic pitching. Tyler Glass now had it going. Roki 46 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: Sazaki is him in the postseason. He is the postseason 47 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: X factor right now for the Dodgers, the guy that 48 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: comes out of the blue and makes massive, massive impact. 49 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: Two saves earlier in the series and then three up, 50 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: three down, three up, three down, three up, three down. 51 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: Incredible work from him. Three scoreless innings, and all they 52 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: needed to do was stay afloat give the offense a 53 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: chance to do a number of things that the Dodgers 54 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: offense can do. They can make contact, they can take walks, 55 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: they can slug and smash the ball out of the ballpark. 56 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: All of these things are possible, and in this situation, 57 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: contact was made, they were able to get on base. 58 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: They forced well, I don't know if you want to 59 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: say forced a mistake, but this mistake was made. That 60 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: doesn't happen necessarily with a strikeout, right, And we see 61 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: plenty of that in today's game, and the Dodgers have 62 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: battle tested guys. That's what you're describing. Key ky Hernandez 63 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: in the regular season is not the same as postseason kyk. 64 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: Like you said, with Munty, lefties weren't his thing. This year, 65 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: they're platooning him. He's starting against right handed pitching. But 66 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: he's been in these spots so often, so many of 67 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: their guys have, And to me, Kratz, it's not just 68 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: the experience they have in these spots. I think the 69 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: Dodgers have the ability and I think they're smart enough 70 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: to figure out which guys should be in these key moments, 71 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: both from a roster construction perspective and from a managing perspective. 72 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: With Dave Roberts, do you agree with that where it's like, Hey, 73 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: this guy shines in the big moment and so I'm 74 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna have him on my roster. I mean, they loved 75 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Tommy Edmond for years and he's been a huge part 76 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: of what they're doing the last couple of years. And 77 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: then Doc Roberts pushes the right button. So I'm giving 78 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: a ton of credit to La here. The pitching plus 79 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: just enough to pull off a dub. 80 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: When you're talking about games like this, like games that 81 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: come down to a fluke play or something, be like, oh, 82 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: they're so lucky. People who aren't around a game are like, 83 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: oh they're so lucky, like it was just a brain 84 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: fart by a young kid. But they're in this situation. 85 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: They are constantly in these situations because of the things 86 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: that you mentioned, because of at the core of it, 87 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: because of communication. I know Max Munsey did not come 88 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: to the ballpark in Game one and go what I'm 89 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: not playing? He came on our show and he said, 90 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: whatever it takes. I don't care if I don't get 91 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: a single hit in the entire postseason. If we win, 92 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: that's all that matters. And I think these guys believe 93 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: it did that will or want to win create the 94 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: air from Oryan Kirkering. No, is that something that is 95 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: It's completely outside of what happens. It's a result. Baseball 96 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: is all about the preparation, the execute, and the result 97 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: just happens. I mean, bom, I think, hit a rocket 98 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: line drive with Harper on first to center field, maybe 99 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: somebody slips, maybe the ball gets down. Great preparation, great execution, 100 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: hit the ball hard. Result wasn't out everything a Ryan 101 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: Kirkering did right there, You didn't let Kik beat you. 102 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: Pajes is the guy that you want to go after, 103 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: and it didn't happen. The result wasn't great. It is. 104 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: It's tough, but it's also the fact that the Dodgers 105 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: are built. I don't want to say built for the postseason, 106 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: because they're good in the regular season, but they are 107 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: built to make a run and win the World Series. 108 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: In every series from last year till now. That they 109 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: keep winning, they gain more experience, more confidence that they're 110 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: never out of it. And it's going to take. It's 111 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: going to take a massive, mass, massive series by either 112 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: the Cubs or the Brewers, whoever they end up facing 113 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: to dethrone the Dodgers right now. 114 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah. The Dodgers have resources. They spend a 115 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: lot of money. You're gonna hear the complainers there. The 116 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: Mets spent a lot of money, they didn't make the playoffs. 117 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: The Yankees spent a lot of money. They're bounced. I 118 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: want to focus on what happened here in this game 119 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: too earlier. So the Phillies, from what I recall, had 120 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: one defensive misque back in the I believe it was 121 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: the third or maybe a little bit deeper than that 122 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: when Boem let the ball get through. Yeah on no, 123 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: tany right back back in the bottom of the third 124 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: didn't end up hurting him. They're at least five defensive 125 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: plays by Philadelphia that you circle in this one and go, wow, 126 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: that's a plus defense. I feel like they're here, they 127 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: know what's at stake. Kepler diving catch, Trey Turner diving catch. 128 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: Just I mean a number of plays. I think probably 129 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: three plays that stand out with Trey who made some 130 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: fantastic plays. Yeah, there was the play turned by Boom 131 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: over to stot To to Harper right yep, and Harper 132 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: made a nice scoop. Bom made a great play extending. 133 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: He does some things that not many third basemen can 134 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: do because he's so long, and we've seen that in 135 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: the series. But in the end, the defense does bite them. 136 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: And we're seeing the replays in the screenshots of j. 137 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: T rel Muto immediately pointing over to first for Kirkering, 138 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: is that what you do? So give me the catcher's perspective. 139 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: Right ball goes back to your pitcher and there are 140 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: two outs, got plenty of time. He could have jogged 141 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: halfway over there and underhand tossed it. 142 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: I do as yell as yell, take your time, stepping throw, 143 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: stepping throw. Never like I'm never like you're good, you're good, 144 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: you're good because it's like you're I'm good. What I 145 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: can take it easy, I can do something I never do. No, 146 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: take your time, stepping throw, stepping throw, no panic, just 147 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: like when they hit a ball on the right side, 148 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: every time you get over like it's just it's what's said. 149 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure he said. I mean c J. T ah Man, 150 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not sure what his thought process was. 151 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: Like we're ready, we're ready to go in and we're 152 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: ready to hit again. We're ready to try to turn 153 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: the lineup over and get Schwarber and Harper up like 154 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: and he yuinched it home. 155 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I should say if he feels it cleanly, 156 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: he has time. He did bobble, so then it starts 157 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: to get a little bit hectic. 158 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: But still that's why you say step and throw. That's 159 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: why you say step and throw. Because Pa hees his 160 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: credit busting it down the line. You never know as 161 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: soon as it's bobbled like that. But he did a 162 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: great job. He reached down with his bare hand to 163 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: pick it up, set your feet stepping through. I don't 164 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: want to see you, you know, I don't want to 165 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: see you like trying a gun sling in from underneath. 166 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: You still have you have plenty of time. 167 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: For the Phillies. They ran into a buzzsaw. That is 168 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: traditional starting pitching. What a concept, and the Phillies have 169 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: it too right. This was really fun to watch in 170 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: this series because there's so much good starting pitching. Phillies, 171 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: of course, are missing Zach Wheeler. Dodgers are able to 172 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: throw out a one through four that is disgusting. But 173 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: for me, what stands out in three out of the 174 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: four games is the Big Three not doing enough. Whether 175 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: it's good pitching or not. I mean, at least figure 176 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: out a way to get on base. I know it's 177 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: really good pitching, but in this series they had a 178 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: great Game three. I'm talking about Trey Turner, Kyle Schwarber, 179 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: and Bryce Harper. But here again in Game four, not much. 180 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Believe we got the numbers in one for fourteen four strikeouts. 181 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, those are the guys that carry the team 182 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: the whole year, and they haven't done that too much 183 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: in the last couple seasons. In the playoffs and it 184 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: could turn into the last dance for some that are 185 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: part of the mix here. You would think they're going 186 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: to try and make sure that they keep Kyle Schwarber. 187 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: I think Castianos will probably head somewhere else, and he 188 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: had a huge knock for this team, and I don't 189 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: even think he would have been starting if Bader was healthy. 190 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: But the team's gonna look a little different next year. Kratz, 191 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of disappointment. Philly fans are going 192 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: to be beyond destroy. You can give me the Philly 193 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: perspective here and what it's going to sound like on 194 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: the radio tomorrow and the talk shows and the post 195 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: game on TV, the whole deal, right, and how Philly 196 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: fans are feeling when they look at their roster and 197 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: see one of the best teams in baseball all year long, 198 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: a dominant home team that was not winning home games 199 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: just now in the postseason, and a very early exit. 200 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean they saw two home playoff games this year 201 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: after everything that they went through during the regular season, 202 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: and at the trade deadline they pick up a guy 203 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: like Duran also Arison Vader, who was great for them 204 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: and was hobbled in this series. But let's go to 205 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: Duran first and then we can go bigger picture with 206 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: the phil. So anything on the decision making side in 207 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: this game that bothered you. Duran comes in at the 208 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: perfect time. We know that you gotta nail down a safe. 209 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: Then they walk show Hey Otani intentionally, who has struggled 210 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: mightily in this series. I'm not saying I wouldn't have 211 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: done that, right because if Otani does something, you go 212 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: you two homers against him? Why didn't they just intentionally 213 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: walk him? But your thoughts on that sequence. 214 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: I go profile right there. I don't go one for 215 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: eighteen with nine strikeouts. You know sho he Volpi was struggling. 216 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: But Charlie Manuel will say water levels out every time 217 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: you see a new guy. Every time you are a 218 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: big league player with confidence, you think the next time 219 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: is when I'm going to get out of the slump. 220 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: You cannot let the profile of Durans. Now, if he 221 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: can run that four steamer you know up above the 222 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 2: zone away, you're fine because up and d show Hey 223 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: can turn on it. But it's when he runs that 224 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: sinker or that splinker, that splitter sinker that kind of 225 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: runs into show Hay's path and he's able to do 226 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: a lot of damage to it. I love the move. 227 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: I do. The guy had walked three guys in twenty 228 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: four innings as a Philly never in his career, I think, 229 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: or maybe this season. I said it confidently, and now 230 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm not as confident. Had he ever walked a runner 231 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: with the bases loaded. I liked the move. I thought 232 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: he had a great at bat. I thought Mooki had 233 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: a great at bat, and he laid off some really 234 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: tough pitches at the top of the zone. Credit to Mooki. 235 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: I thought it was a great play there. Maybe they 236 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: could have gone kept with Duran a little bit longer, 237 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: but you know, that's super hindsight and then you're never 238 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: getting to kirkering. But I you know, Durand did everything 239 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: he could do in my opinion, But that inning doesn't 240 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: happen unless the umpire box is strike three two. Now 241 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: I'm forgetting who Alic calling Alex Alex. 242 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: And it was close. It was close. Let's not act 243 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: like this was egregious. 244 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, we will have. 245 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: Strike And in a big game like this, you would 246 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: think you have a challenge left in a spot like. 247 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: That, yep. JT's JT's definitely. I mean, you saw him 248 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: turn around. That run ended up scoring walks. Walks will 249 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: kill you. And that one, that one got it mm. 250 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: Hmm, here it is. I mean it's a strike. I 251 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: get it. It's a strike. 252 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: Just like didn't lose the game, the umpire didn't lose 253 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: the game. This was. This was as good a series 254 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: without a going to Game five as I thought it 255 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: was going to be like this. These are two really 256 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: close teams, and I know the Dodgers came out three 257 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: to one. The Philly had a lead in every single game. 258 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: The Dodgers came back and won every single game that 259 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: they were behind. The Dodgers were winning, and they lost 260 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: the one game that they were in the lead. So 261 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: it's it was such a great series. And just like 262 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure who that was. It was just up 263 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: there said this was the World Series. To me, the 264 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: Dodgers are the favorite to win it. Yep. 265 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: And I think they'll have a tough test with whoever 266 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: comes out of the other side. 267 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: I would, man, I don't think they come up very well. 268 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: No, I don't think they do either. I think the 269 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: Brewers match up better. I still think the Dodgers would 270 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: take them down. I think on the American League side, 271 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: Toronto and Seattle looked pretty good. Detroit for me, is 272 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: a step down, but you got the Schoogle factor. They 273 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: got themselves to a game five. We'll get to all 274 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: of that, and I want to get to the Dodgers 275 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: rolling forward, but to close the book on the Phillies, 276 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: which I'm sure we'll do much more of on tomorrow's 277 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: Foul Territory episode, which begins live at one o'clock Eastern Time. 278 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: Thoughts on how Phillies fans are going to react They 279 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: didn't get that part of the equation from you yet. 280 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: Cut them all tomorrow Monday after, it's gonna be cut 281 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: every one of them. I mean, I see I see 282 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: people just throwing entire rosters out there that they're like, yeah, 283 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: I don't see him bringing Turner back. I don't see 284 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: him bringing bone back. And it's like whoa, whoa. Okay, 285 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: first of all, these guys are signed for a long time, 286 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: but it's going to be who's to blame? Well, I 287 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: blame Rob Thompson for calling the calling that bunt? How 288 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: are you gonna call that butt? It's like it's like 289 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: Rob Thompson told Kyle Schwarber to bunt, it was a 290 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: tough lefty matchup against the pitcher that gets a lot 291 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: of fly balls and strikeouts. They're gonna say, dumb Rowski 292 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: cut them. How did we not get Kyle Tucker? How 293 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: were we not even on the Corbett like, you got 294 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: to replace Zach Wheeler somehow. This is what's gonna happen. 295 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: It's just it's gonna be fire like. Let's put it 296 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: this way. Nick Costianos had two of the biggest hits 297 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 2: this entire postseason. One of the schmucks on the radio 298 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: that I listened to the channel I listen to, Yeah, 299 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: he goes, I'm done with this guy. Do you hear 300 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: his comments? We pay money to go to these Phillies 301 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: games and he's gonna say these things. Nick Costianas has 302 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: been nothing but a pro in a sense that he'll 303 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: say what's on his mind, that's what you want from athletes, 304 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: and then he's backed it up even when he's not 305 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: been out on the field all the time, he's backed up. 306 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 2: He's had huge hits the last two postseasons. 307 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: You're right, he does come up clutch for them, and 308 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: all he did was point out that that place can 309 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: be the best Nirvana ever or it can be a 310 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: hell hole for the home team because of how crazy 311 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: it gets it is. Navid said, it comes down to 312 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: lefty pitching against the Dodgers. Do the Cubs or the 313 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: Brewers have it? I mean the Cubs have some left 314 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: handed starting pitching. 315 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: I don't. 316 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: I think it's. 317 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: Because you got to shut down show, because you got 318 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: to shut down Freddy. You can't say that about anything. 319 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean, the Dodgers lineup is stacked. It comes down 320 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: to whichever staff has the best ability to make pitches, 321 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: because the Dodgers don't go out of their zone. And 322 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: so if you're making pitches like the Phillies did this series, 323 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: you got them. You can beat that. You can hang 324 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: with the Dodgers, and I think the Brewers, the Brewers 325 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: lineup can put together such amazing, amazing at bats against 326 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: against the Dodgers starting rotation, kind of like a little 327 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: Cam Schlitzer from last night. The Brewers just aren't going 328 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: to punch out and times in six innings like the 329 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: Phillies did. The Brewers are going to put the ball 330 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: in play and move guys around, give them big at bats. 331 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: And maybe make the Dodgers go in deeper into their 332 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: bullpen to actual bullpen guys and not just starters. And 333 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: we also got to remember they need all their starters 334 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: now for a seven game series, so you can't go 335 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: to all your starters in the bullpen like you have 336 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: this series. So it'll be interesting. I think it's got 337 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: to be the Brewers would have the best chance. But 338 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: I still think that Dodgers are ahead of them right now, 339 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: and they because they've won this huge series, and I 340 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: think it's I think it's the there's to win. I 341 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: think these are the two best teams in the National League. 342 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Oh, the Dodgers starting pitching matched up against either the 343 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: Cubs or the Brewers, it's not close. 344 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: It's starting pitching to starting pitching. No, no, no, I'm 345 00:19:54,560 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: saying Dodgers starting pitchers versus the Brewers lineup. No. Yeah, 346 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: the Browers can put together good at bats. 347 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Kratz, let's go with Milwaukee, right. I mean, 348 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: Freddy Perrault is a bona fide top end started. Yeah, 349 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: and I know he had a hiccup here, you know, 350 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: in the beginning of the game. It's on going right now, 351 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: But look at game two of their postseason, they were 352 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: already in bullpen game mode. I'm not saying that's bad, 353 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: but look what the Dodgers throw out there for four 354 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: games now. And I know it wasn't the best night 355 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: for Yamamoto, but he's shown a lot of good all 356 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: season long, and I do not want to face him 357 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: in another postseason matchup. So this team is peaking at 358 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: the right time, Kratz. They had won I believe it 359 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: was nine in a row heading into the Game three loss. 360 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: You know, they were four and oh so far in 361 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: the postseason. They got their tune up against the Reds, 362 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, and yes, James, they found their closer. 363 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: What where would they be without Roki Sasaki right now? 364 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: Maybe in the same spot, but maybe not. And it's 365 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: going to be even more important as we go forward. 366 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: And let's look at this game. I mean, he wasn't 367 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: just your closer. He gave you nine outs. Nine outs. 368 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, yeah, And honestly I get it. 369 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: In the last day he started to throw a few 370 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: more balls. It didn't look like they had any answer. 371 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 2: They were behind on the heater. He would paint a heater, 372 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: he'd throw a splitter out or a fork ball out 373 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: of the zone, and then whatever pitch he needed to 374 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: finish that guy with. It was usually heaters later on 375 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: in his outing, but he's the question was is he 376 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: gonna throw enough strikes and he was like, yes, because 377 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: nobody can hit me. I'm just gonna pound the zone 378 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: with everything. Maybe take a chase chase pitch here or there, 379 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: and then go right to pounding the zone again. He 380 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 2: has he has settled in and there is a that 381 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: new split or split uh set up that they had 382 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: he has in the stretch. It's it's impressive, like this 383 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 2: is this is Dodgers development all over it. 384 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I mean he instantly has become one of 385 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: the best closers in the sport stuff wise and lengthwise. 386 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: And credit to Tyler Glasnow too. He hadn't started a 387 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: game in twelve days. He had appeared obviously earlier in 388 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: Game one for an inning and two thirds, but in 389 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: this one, six shutout innings, two hits, three walks. That's 390 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: where you have to watch with him. Sometimes three walks doable, 391 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: eight strikeouts, eighty three pitches. Fastball velocity was up from 392 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: the regular season. You might have wanted another inning out 393 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: of Tyler. He's gone through a lot of injuries over 394 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons. He didn't pitch in the 395 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: playoffs last year for this team. Remember this was his 396 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: first postseason start with the Dodgers. Gets moved over to 397 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: LA signs the big extension, and he's perfect for the Dodgers. 398 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: Why because he might not ever go thirty starts again 399 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: in his career, But man, he's a number one when 400 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: he's and he's feeling good. He's a number one. Right 401 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: if you have a do or die game and you're 402 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: down to glass, now you feel incredible. And that's what's 403 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: special about him. So I know there are plenty of 404 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: Dodger fans that are outten after him. Sometimes he's on 405 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: our show pretty frequently. But the dude's talented as hell. 406 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: He is such a tough at bat, so credit to 407 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: him too. I mean, he matched up against the current 408 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: number one starter for the Phillies is going to finish 409 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: number two in Cy Young and they went toe to toe. 410 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: Last Now will he has a stuff and will always 411 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 2: be a number one because he's on the Dodgers. They're 412 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: never gonna let him be an ace. And that's Okay, 413 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: anything starts barking. They're like, hey, you know what, game 414 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: seventy five of the season, We're gonna give you thirty 415 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: five to forty games off you come back, will build 416 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: you up. You're a beast in the postseason because you 417 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 2: have electric stuff from six foot eight that a fastball 418 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: that cuts, a four seamer that stays straight. Started mixing 419 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: in that sinker every once in a while. The slider 420 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: this year was really devastating. Today. He used it just 421 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: to keep them because this thing's not always the curveball 422 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: is not always in the zone. He is. He is 423 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: the quintessential get the most out of somebody when you're 424 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: in a certain organization, and that organization obviously the Rays 425 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: they were doing it. The Pirates were like, no way, 426 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: we can get that much out of you. The Rays 427 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: were like, we'll get value out of you. And then 428 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 2: the Dodgers said, we'll pay you while we get value 429 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: out of you. 430 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: Boom, exactly. 431 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 2: Okay. 432 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: Question on the Philly side from oh, we're going to 433 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: bring it up run around second. Does Rob Thompson get fired? 434 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: No? Should he? I'm terrible at knowing if a guy 435 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: get he's going to get fired. Should he? No, he 436 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: should not. He shouldn't. This is not what did he do? 437 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: Is it a fireable offense? Is it? Did he not 438 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: put his team in a good position to play? Did 439 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: he not handle the Nick Costianos stuff very well? Did 440 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: he have his number one starter going into the season? 441 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: Was his bullpen not stacked enough? Like to me, I 442 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: think his moves they're gonna be questioned because they lost, 443 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 2: But I don't think. I don't think he made any 444 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: fireable offenses. Now behind the scenes, if there's stuff that, hey, 445 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 2: you know what, we got to have guys that are, 446 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 2: you know, getting in line, you know, certain things that 447 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: could happen, but that this organization, to me, is a 448 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: very well oiled machine. They're running so well. If anything, 449 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: somebody gets fired, it might be k Long. Kevin Long 450 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: might move to another organization, and whoever gets them, it'll 451 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: be twenty nine other teams lining up. Because he's probably 452 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: one of the best hitting coaches. But somebody has to 453 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: somebody has to pay the price for the hitters not 454 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 2: being able to make adjustment. Is that his fault? No, 455 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: because he gets these guys going. But in my opinion, 456 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: if I were to guess, that's probably the route they're 457 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: going to go, and I wholeheartedly disagree with it. 458 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but last four years World Series appearance, great CUS appearance, 459 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: and then the last two seasons with expectations sky high 460 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: for this team and tons of names in that lineup, 461 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: National League Division Series knocked out. And some of that 462 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: is many much of that is credit to the Dodgers 463 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: this year, the Mets last year. But stars got to be, 464 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: stars got to show up. We didn't have a big 465 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper moment either. For the Phillies. The thing that 466 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: I do think will happen is Dave Dombrowski will be 467 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: forced to shake things up more with the offense. Clearly 468 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: this offense is not bringing it in the postseason right now, 469 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: so it'll be painful. And it was talked about a 470 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: little last year. Nothing really changed with the offense. I 471 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: think they'll try to do a little bit more. It's 472 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: not easy because a lot of the you know, you've 473 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: got certain guys that are tied up for a long 474 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: period of time, Like you mentioned, Trade Turners there for 475 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: a while, Bryce Harper's there for a while. Obviously those 476 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: guys aren't moving. But Shorber's free agent, maybe they don't 477 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: bring him back. Castianos I said earlier, I think was 478 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: free agent. He's got one more year left, but maybe 479 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: they eat some money and trade him. So things will 480 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: happen with the Phillies just. 481 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: Thrown almost Nick was almost gone this year. From what 482 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: I heard, it was Boem and Nick Costianos for Kyle Tucker. 483 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: Similar to what the Astros did, you know with east 484 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: O Paradis and Cam Smith And there was also you know, 485 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: a prospect worked in there, so would you have had 486 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: that extra left handed bat in the order. But if 487 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: you go parallel seasons, I get it. I mean Tucker 488 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: had a much better season than Nick Castianas. I'm not 489 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: trying to compare that. I'm saying Kyle Tucker, what he's 490 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 2: done in the postseason right now, would he have done? 491 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: You can only have a parallel season all of a sudden. 492 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: You wouldn't just get put in the Phillies line up 493 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: and be like, well, you know what, I'm healthy, I'm 494 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: you know, I'm doing all this stuff. He would have 495 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: been a great pickup. But I see them pursuing him, 496 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: I really do. I see them pursuing Kyle Tucker. Can 497 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: you add another ten to thirteen year contract onto the 498 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: books because they're gonna have Ranger Suarez money. They're gonna 499 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna probably pick Upjosey Alvarado's contract, which 500 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 2: he has an option, so they're gonna, you know, that'll 501 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: that'll bolster that bullpen. You got Alvarado and Duran coming 502 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: in at the end, kirk Ring's back and still really good. 503 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: I think Strom still has a little bit. He has 504 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: one year left, but don't quote me on that. But 505 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: then you basically you have twenty million from Schwarber, twenty 506 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: million from Nick coming off. I think I. 507 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: Think Nick's got one more year. 508 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: I thought we said no, I think he's I think 509 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: that's it. 510 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: Oh, you think that's it? 511 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 512 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: JT real Muto is a free agent. By the way, 513 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: after this JT that comes off, Ranger Suarez comes up. 514 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: So there's it's like seventy five million. Are you willing 515 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: to put that seventy five million into another starting pitcher? 516 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: Is Andrew Paynter ready? Are you willing to put it 517 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: into a bat and JT real Muto? Because if not, 518 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: you got big questions that you have to go find 519 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: a catcher. And I think if JT wants to take 520 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: a two or three year deal. He comes back, he's 521 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: still very serviceable, above average catcher. Back there. It plays 522 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: all the time, caught the most innings of any catcher 523 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: in baseball this year, or maybe all based all National League, 524 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: I think. 525 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, he's up there, he's up there. 526 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: You have you have flexibility, You have flexibility to change it. 527 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: How you change it, I don't know. 528 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: By the way, Castanos does have another twenty mil. He 529 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: does confirmed, so he has one more, one more year. 530 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean they they could deal him if 531 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's issues there that could happen. Okay, let's 532 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: finish with a couple Dodgers question marks heading into the 533 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: next round. Number one, and a fan asked this, what 534 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: do you do with Clayton kershaw. 535 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: Man. I don't have I don't have the cojones to 536 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: say Kirsch on the roster. 537 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: You don't have it? 538 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: I do? I do. 539 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: I did it last year halfway through the season when 540 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: Verlander didn't have it. He actually was better down the 541 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: stretch this year, but last year is like he doesn't 542 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: have it. That's not a playoff pitcher. 543 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm still putting them on there at all tough. I'm 544 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: still putting them on there. Okay, he had he had 545 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: three three three five this year for the season. It's 546 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: not apples to apples. The Verlander to Kershall things not 547 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: apples to apples. The Phillies they got them, they got him. 548 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: But he also shouldn't have shouldn't have gone back out 549 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: there had the score been different. I think they come 550 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: and get they come and get Kershall. But he helped 551 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: the boys in that situation, and it may have actually 552 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: helped them tonight. Helped the Dodgers tonight. So I'm leaving 553 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: them on. I don't think they have that many options. 554 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: Look at look at out what else they have in 555 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: that bullpen, and you're gonna need length. I think he 556 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: stays on. 557 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Tanner Scott's off. I mean now he's out for 558 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: the next round here, and I mean I know most 559 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: Dodger fans don't want to see him the rest of 560 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: this season anyway, and they hope that he just resets 561 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: and comes back and figures things out for twenty twenty six. 562 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: Not going to get into what happened. We don't know 563 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: much details yet. Obviously, jokes were made online. It's it's 564 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: a medical thing, though I don't know what happened. It's 565 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: it's it could be serious. So anyway, we're not going 566 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: to get into that right now until we know what happened. 567 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: But Tanner Scott will not be part of the playoff roster. 568 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Justin Robleski can give you some moments and at least be, 569 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, a depth guy out of the bullpen for them, 570 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: and he replaced Scott, so he's there starting pitching. Otani 571 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: was going to go game five. That does not mean 572 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: that he needs to go game one. They've got a 573 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: plan they like him with an off day afterward. Do 574 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: you do that? I'm not concerned, But do you go 575 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: Snell game one? No? Tiny, game two? 576 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, because I think Snell's their biggest workhorse of everybody. 577 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: And if you can get Snell game one to five 578 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: and possibly something out of the pen and seven. Like 579 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they need that, I'm saying he has 580 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 2: the ability to do that and show Hay's hitting as 581 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: much as I'll say his hitting definitely declines after he pitches. 582 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 2: The stats say that. That's my opinion. Setting him up 583 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: in game two and he gets a day off is monstrous. 584 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: And the reason he was one for nineteen is because 585 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: some kind of stat about guys who have an arm 586 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: angle lower than thirty five degrees he struggles with. So 587 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: if you bring a lefty in with an arm angle 588 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: that's above thirty five degrees, he rakes it. So the 589 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: Phillies deployed a great, a great matchup against. 590 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: Him, and we're going we talk a lot more about 591 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: what happened here and the Dodgers moving forward and who 592 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: they'll be facing, the whole deal. 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