WEBVTT - THE ROAD FORWARD | AUGUST 9TH, 2026

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into Real America's voice. This is Sunday the Road Forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us as we discuss the intersection of faith,

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<v Speaker 1>culture and everyday life. I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>your host our special guest joining this week. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the President of American Values and Senior vice president of

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<v Speaker 1>Public Policy for the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. Gary

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<v Speaker 1>Bauer is back with us and she is the best

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<v Speaker 1>selling author, speaker, podcaster, a strong voice for righteousness and culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Hidie Saint John is back. He is Senior vice president

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<v Speaker 1>for City Serve International and Vice president of the National

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<v Speaker 1>Faith Advisory Boy Todd Lamfeir is back with us and

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<v Speaker 1>he is the best selling author, podcaster, and founder of Homeword.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Burns is with us. Thanks for watching. You hold

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<v Speaker 2>me up today, you call.

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<v Speaker 3>Yah.

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<v Speaker 1>While we're continuing to witness the rise of socialism in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Really it's the rise of communism in America. Radical l

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<v Speaker 1>Sieed and moderate Hailey Stevens battled it out for the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate Democratic nomination in Michigan. L SIEID has won, shocking

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<v Speaker 1>the nation. The radical left, they're putting a death grip

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<v Speaker 1>on the Democratic Party and they're cascading off the cliff.

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<v Speaker 1>If you will open borders, abortion on demand, after birth,

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<v Speaker 1>reckless spending that's driving up inflation, abolishing ice, empty prisons.

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<v Speaker 1>Why abolish our current way of life? It's crazy and

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<v Speaker 1>all I has continue to lock in on the war

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<v Speaker 1>on Iran in the Middle East. The President is clear

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to end Iran's nuclear threat. For forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven years, they've been rogue and defiant the negotiation games

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<v Speaker 1>that they've been going through over the last few weeks months,

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump, He's done with it. We need to be

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<v Speaker 1>praying earnestly for our leaders and for peace in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Riley Gaines exploded.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember her in culture when she took a no

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<v Speaker 1>men in women's sports stand in the NCAA. Now Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>Fever superstar WNBA Sophie's Cunningham has taken a stand no

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<v Speaker 1>men in women's sports and locker rooms. I'll add the

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA coaches they're squirming a little, seemed confused over what

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<v Speaker 1>a woman is. Social media is going wild over it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Riley Gaines said this, the WNBA has a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>conservative politics and sports. Probably he's not going to end

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<v Speaker 1>well here. Support by the way is growing nationally for

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Cunningham. They're showing up the games. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting to continue to watch how this thing unfolds.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've got to bring up Fauci. Those Fauci hearings.

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<v Speaker 1>They were horrific and a total mess. You lied to

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<v Speaker 1>the American people during the proceedings. He pleaded the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred times. Just insane. How many people died?

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<v Speaker 1>How much money did they all make? How does he

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<v Speaker 1>get away with this criminal garbage? Senator Ran Paul announced

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<v Speaker 1>the possible Senate vote to hold Fouching and contept Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he wants to make a recommendation to the

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<v Speaker 1>DOJ on what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>This.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, our hope, our strength comes from the Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a great verse to hold on to this week,

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah forty one, Verse ten. Don't fear, for I am

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Don't be dismayed, for I am your God.

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<v Speaker 1>I will strengthen you, and I will help you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I will uphold you with my righteous hand. All this

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<v Speaker 1>and mores. We jump headfirst into our discussion here on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>the road forward. Let's pray and we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>started God be with us, bless our time here, Use

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<v Speaker 1>it for your glory. God, guide us, help us to

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<v Speaker 1>stay close to your heart. May we bring great glory

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<v Speaker 1>to you and all that we do in Jesus' name. Amen,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get started.

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<v Speaker 5>For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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<v Speaker 5>Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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<v Speaker 5>part of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Johns now Is Gary Bauer.

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<v Speaker 1>Bauer served in President Ronald Rega's administration for eight years

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<v Speaker 1>as Under Secretary of Education and Chief Domestic Policy Advisor. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>he serves as president of American Values and educational nonprofit

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<v Speaker 1>organization right there in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also senior.

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<v Speaker 1>Vice president of public Policy for the doctor James Dobson

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<v Speaker 1>Family Institute. Gary, welcome back, Thank you for joining me.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Tim. Always great to see you and talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the great issues of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump a few weeks ago claimed that communism was

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<v Speaker 1>probably the greatest threat to America. And this socialism communism

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<v Speaker 1>rise that we're seeing all over this country is shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's stunning. We saw it this week in the primary

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<v Speaker 1>up in Michigan. I just wanted to get your take

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<v Speaker 1>on what you think in the what in the world's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary, Yeah, as usual, Tim, President Trump, who we both

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<v Speaker 3>admired greatly, always gets it right. Communism is like the

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<v Speaker 3>walking dead, you know, no matter how many times we

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<v Speaker 3>think it's finally proven itself to be a failure and

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<v Speaker 3>it's gone and we don't have to worry about it anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>it comes roaring back with a new generation that's never

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<v Speaker 3>seen the mass murderer and all the rest that always

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<v Speaker 3>comes with it, And I think that's exactly what we're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing today. He also said that racing Michigan was not

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<v Speaker 3>between a socialist and a liberal Democrat. It was between

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<v Speaker 3>a communist and a socialist, referring to the Liberal Democrat.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Democrat Party is moving further and further to

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<v Speaker 3>the left, and it's this dangerous alliance we're seen between

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<v Speaker 3>radical Islam and Marxism. It's a threat to our country,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a threat to our future. And it shows me

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<v Speaker 3>that the Republican Party has got to get its act together.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got to be a lot more stude. They have

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<v Speaker 3>to be a lot more a stude. They've got to

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<v Speaker 3>be willing to argue the philosophical case for freedom. We

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<v Speaker 3>can't take for granted that the American people, particularly are young,

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<v Speaker 3>already understand that Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>My understanding is Gary Peters, the incumbent decided not to run,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there was a kind of a playoff between

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<v Speaker 1>abdual ealth Sieid and I think her name is Hailey Stevens.

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<v Speaker 1>She was supposed to be, like you said, more moderate.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Gary, help us understand again who these people

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<v Speaker 1>really are. We know that there's this Islamic kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dearborn Michigan. It's just like they've taken that place over.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's who else I eed is connected to. But

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<v Speaker 1>what does all this mean again? What's happening here? How

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<v Speaker 1>can someone so radical get into that kind of place

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<v Speaker 1>that nomination?

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of reasons, Tim I you know

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned you're always kind of enough to remind people

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<v Speaker 3>that I work for Ronald Reagan for a years. I

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<v Speaker 3>run into people today saying I just wish we had

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<v Speaker 3>another Ronald Reagan. Man. You know he would sweep into office. No,

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<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't, because the America we have today is not

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<v Speaker 3>the America that elected Ronald Reagan into landslides. One difference

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<v Speaker 3>is there's been a tremendous demographic change in our country,

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<v Speaker 3>and even though the left denies it and some people

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<v Speaker 3>are confused about it. Cultures are different, they have different values.

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<v Speaker 3>We're supposed to be a country where people bring their

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<v Speaker 3>culture with him, but then they assimilate, you know, Union

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<v Speaker 3>Many for one. Today we have the exact opposite. We

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<v Speaker 3>have people bringing Third World cultures here and hanging on

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<v Speaker 3>to them, often having more loyalty to the traditions of

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<v Speaker 3>the place they left for reasons I assume was that

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't like but they come here and they recreate

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<v Speaker 3>that culture. So we have places in Michigan like Deerborn,

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<v Speaker 3>where in some neighborhoods it looks more like a neighborhood

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<v Speaker 3>you would see in the Middle East, not a neighborhood

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<v Speaker 3>you would see in the Middle West. And this guy

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<v Speaker 3>that just won in Michigan, he was much more animated

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<v Speaker 3>and much more committed to arguing about the West Bank

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<v Speaker 3>in Israel than he was about what's happening in the

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<v Speaker 3>West End of Detroit where minority families are suffering and

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<v Speaker 3>can't walk the streets in safety. So these are alien philosophy.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gaining ground. And then you add on top of that,

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<v Speaker 3>every year we graduate out of our left wing universities,

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<v Speaker 3>more young Americans that have been indoctrinated into socialism and

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<v Speaker 3>Marxism and have been taught anti American history, not American history,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of this together is a witch's brew that

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<v Speaker 3>risk America losing everything we have stood for for the

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<v Speaker 3>last two hundred and fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw a tweet come out by former Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>State Mike Pompeo, and he said, here's a sentence that

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<v Speaker 1>you probably thought you never read ten years ago. Hamas'

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<v Speaker 1>supporter may well be well. He is the Democrats nominee

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<v Speaker 1>to represent Michigan in the Senate. The Democratic Party, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>is headed down a truly dark road. All Americans need

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<v Speaker 1>to wake up to this threat. I mean people are

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<v Speaker 1>talking now openly about this is a real, real threat

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<v Speaker 1>to America. We're not talking about people just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get elect in office. Something is like you said, Gary Brewing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim Adlai Stevenson, I believe, ran against Dwight David Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 3>at one point, and they were very different about a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot of things, you know, the size of government

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<v Speaker 3>and so forth. But America wasn't going to be an

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<v Speaker 3>appreciably different place if Stevenson won or Eisenhower won as

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<v Speaker 3>he did. On broad important things, there was agreement, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was the case. You know, you can go right

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<v Speaker 3>up to JFK and Richard Nixon. I mean they went

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<v Speaker 3>at each other. They had big disagreements, but not about

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<v Speaker 3>whether America was a good place, not whether we were

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<v Speaker 3>a shining city on a hill, not on the question

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<v Speaker 3>of whether our liberty came from God or came from government.

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<v Speaker 3>On the big things, we were all in the same page.

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<v Speaker 3>No longer the age we are living in, there are

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<v Speaker 3>two widely separate ideologies I could competing with each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And if the group that we saw won this primary

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<v Speaker 3>this week in Michigan, if they end up running America,

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<v Speaker 3>it will not be a safe place for people like us.

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<v Speaker 3>It will not be a place with as much freedom

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<v Speaker 3>for our grandchildren as you and I Tim were fortunate

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<v Speaker 3>enough to enjoy in our years in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary, I'm gonna close this way election integrity. Again, in

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<v Speaker 1>the midst of all this stuff, you're seeing all this happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you come back and think, well does it

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<v Speaker 1>even matter? I mean, based on what we've learned about

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<v Speaker 1>voter rolls in things like that, the integrity side of

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<v Speaker 1>the things missing. Gary, something's going to happen. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>Save America Act gonna get through the Senate or not?

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<v Speaker 2>You think?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Gosh, I try to be optimistic these days

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<v Speaker 3>about everything. Why do I have a hard time being

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<v Speaker 3>optimistic about this?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>People talked about getting rid of the filibuster because that

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<v Speaker 3>would be the way to pass it. Unfortunately, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe we've got fifty Republicans willing to pass it. Even

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<v Speaker 3>though there are fifty three Republican Senators now, a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of the ones that won't vote for it are leaving,

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<v Speaker 3>one retired, one got defeated in his primary. But I

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<v Speaker 3>want to see an up or down vote, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>who is the majority on this, and then voters can

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<v Speaker 3>make their judgment. And as far as whether it matters,

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<v Speaker 3>we need to have the mental attitude of let's turn

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<v Speaker 3>out in such numbers that it's too big to rig.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Gary, I'll tell you what. We got to pray,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got to work. We got to roll up

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<v Speaker 1>our sleeves and get after it. Always great to see you,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Thank you for joining me.

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<v Speaker 3>You too, Tim God Bless.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next. She's the best selling author, speaker, and podcaster,

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<v Speaker 4>It's great to see you, HAIDI A.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot going on out in Washington, the state. But these

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<v Speaker 1>fires that are happening out there, Hadi, what seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>or so seven hundred and fifty homes destroyed, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people being displaced, like one hundred thousand people. My

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<v Speaker 1>understanding is, at least at this moment, they're uncontained.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on. What happened?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they've arrested a man for arson.

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<v Speaker 9>Witnesses say that there was a man who had waterproof

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<v Speaker 9>matches and a buttane lighter that was bending over a

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<v Speaker 9>section of the woods. Many people saw him. He was

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<v Speaker 9>arrested just a couple of days ago. But I want

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<v Speaker 9>to point to a deeper issue. I mean, I obviously

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<v Speaker 9>I'm very concerned if it was arson, But if you

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<v Speaker 9>could see out my window right now, I live up

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<v Speaker 9>on Livingston Mountin. Normally we can see about one hundred

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<v Speaker 9>miles to the south. I can't see past my railing

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<v Speaker 9>right now because we are absolutely inundated with smoke that's

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<v Speaker 9>billowing in from Spokane, Washington, which is five and a

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<v Speaker 9>half hours away from here. So that shows you the

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<v Speaker 9>devastation of the fires in Spokane. And here's the bigger issue,

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<v Speaker 9>the reason that Washington State is burning and the reason

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<v Speaker 9>that Oregon is burning over a million acres. This is

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<v Speaker 9>the worst forest fire, the worst wildfire in the history

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<v Speaker 9>of Oregon State. It's set to do that same thing

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<v Speaker 9>for Washington State. Yes, you can blame an arsonist on it,

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<v Speaker 9>but what you really need to blame are the radical

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<v Speaker 9>environmentalists who we have been electing to office now for decades.

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<v Speaker 4>In the late nineteen seventies, my granddad.

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<v Speaker 9>Who used to work for the Forest Service, told me

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<v Speaker 9>that if we did not clean the forest bed, we

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<v Speaker 9>would have wildfires the likes of which we have never seen.

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<v Speaker 9>And many of you will remember the controversy of the

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<v Speaker 9>spotted owl in the eighties. This is what started all

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<v Speaker 9>this stuff, and so we refuse to clean the forest bed.

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<v Speaker 9>When I was running for Congress in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 9>I walked with the Forest Service through the forests of

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<v Speaker 9>western Washington State. They have literally blocked off fire roads.

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<v Speaker 9>They are chained shut so that firefighters cannot get in

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<v Speaker 9>to contain these fires. And so people say it's not political,

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<v Speaker 9>it is absolutely political. Here in Washington State. We care

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<v Speaker 9>more about pigeons than we do about people. We care

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<v Speaker 9>more about animals and more about birds and protecting habitat

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<v Speaker 9>than we do in protecting the habitat of human beings

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<v Speaker 9>that live here. And we're reaping the consequences for it.

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<v Speaker 9>So this is not just a name.

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<v Speaker 4>I've grow up here. We've always had hot summers.

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<v Speaker 9>The forest here are spectacular, the fires are new, and

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<v Speaker 9>you can blame it directly on radical environmentalism.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Riley Gaines speaks a number of our events.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been together a lot you with her, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>She took a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bold stand, took on the endc double a and just said, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>no men in women's sports and bye.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>Social media blew up over it recently. Sophie Cunningham, Indiana Fever.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she flatter, it's with it. I mean she

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<v Speaker 1>is all over the place, took a stand the w NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mess going on right now. Seriously, we got

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<v Speaker 1>coaches who are all they're blubblering all over themselves trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what to say, how to deal with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even figure out. It's the w NBA. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure out what a woman is seriously hiding.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>People are showing up at the games and in the

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<v Speaker 1>support of Sophie Cunningham, and you've got this trans community

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<v Speaker 1>losing their mind. It's unbelievable. Just your take, Where do

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<v Speaker 1>you think this is going? She isn't she's not moving,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not budgeting.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, Praise the Lord for her. Praise the Lord for

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<v Speaker 9>Sophie Cunningham and my friend Riley Gaines. Praise the Lord

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<v Speaker 9>for these very bold and courageous women. It shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 9>bold and it shouldn't require courage to say that a

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<v Speaker 9>woman is a woman and biology does not change because

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<v Speaker 9>somebody decides they don't want to be that particular member

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<v Speaker 9>of that particular sex. It's ridiculous. The WNBA should be

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<v Speaker 9>ashamed of itself. They should be ashamed, and they're not.

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<v Speaker 9>The recent the most recent curve fuffle happened here in Portland,

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<v Speaker 9>in Portland, Oregon. They played over here, and the mess

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<v Speaker 9>of the WNBA, it's embarrassing. And you know, I'd like

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<v Speaker 9>to say to you, they say they don't know what

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<v Speaker 9>they say. They don't know what a woman is, just

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<v Speaker 9>like a Tankie Brown Jackson when she was when she

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<v Speaker 9>was interviewing to be on the Supreme Court. What a

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<v Speaker 9>sham of a Supreme Court justice that woman has turned

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<v Speaker 9>out to be. But it started when she said that

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<v Speaker 9>she couldn't answer the question because she's not a biologist. Listen,

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<v Speaker 9>this isn't that they don't know what a woman is.

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<v Speaker 9>They lack the courage to tell the truth. They lack

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<v Speaker 9>the courage to stand up to wokeism. These are lies

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<v Speaker 9>that are coming from these people.

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<v Speaker 4>Shame on them.

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<v Speaker 9>I hope the NBA. I hope the WNBA goes bank up.

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<v Speaker 9>It's painful to watch, anyway, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope they go bank It's a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, Hey, before you go, I've got to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about the Fauci hearings. You talk about horrific and you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a mess that was unbelievable, pleading the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>what someone hundred times and more. And then this week

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<v Speaker 1>RFK Junior shocks the nation when he comes back and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't COVID and talking about the origins of that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's talking now about RSB and he's talking about limes disease. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>what in the world, seriously is this true? You know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's unbelievable to me that this is happening in

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<v Speaker 1>our culture. Just the closing thought or two from you

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<v Speaker 1>about all that, well.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it just it should be a reminder to

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<v Speaker 9>us that elections have consequences. Again, like the wildfires in

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<v Speaker 9>Washington State that didn't just happen randomly, They happen because

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<v Speaker 9>of bad leadership. The same thing is true, and and

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<v Speaker 9>OURFK Junior is uncovering it. We have terrible people, I

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<v Speaker 9>would say, in many cases, wickedness in the highest positions

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<v Speaker 9>of authority in our country, continuing even into the healthcare industry. Listen,

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<v Speaker 9>I lost my dad in COVID. I watched my dad

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<v Speaker 9>die on FaceTime because they wouldn't allow us into the hospital.

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<v Speaker 9>I watched my dad suffer and die after he was

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<v Speaker 9>vaxed and boosted. So no one's going to tell me

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<v Speaker 9>that this wasn't done on purpose. These people have an agenda.

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<v Speaker 9>All you gotta do is go look at the World

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<v Speaker 9>Economic Forum and look and see into Fauci, the high

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<v Speaker 9>Priest of the branch Convidians. Go look and watch it.

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<v Speaker 9>That guy's diary. They knew exactly what.

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<v Speaker 4>They were doing.

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<v Speaker 9>They need to be held accountable. I was listening to

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<v Speaker 9>the news this morning. It sounds to me like the

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<v Speaker 9>Attorney General of Louisiana is going to hold him accountable

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<v Speaker 9>because they deposed this guy and he basically pled the

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<v Speaker 9>fifth and his definition. Turns out it wasn't that he

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<v Speaker 9>couldn't recall. He recalled what he had for breakfast. He

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<v Speaker 9>kept a diary. He's lying, and when you lie to

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<v Speaker 9>the American people, there should be accountability. I hope to

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<v Speaker 9>goodness that we hold these guys accountable. We can never

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<v Speaker 9>let this happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need to speak up and suit up and

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<v Speaker 1>show up and amen, God be with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know amen. He indeed so much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>Senior vice president for City Serve International and Vice President

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<v Speaker 1>vice president of the National Faith Advisory Boy Todd, welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 10>For joining me.

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<v Speaker 11>Always good to be with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Tim.

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<v Speaker 2>Tod's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>Interestingly enough, you've found yourself in Venezuela recently, No kidding, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>you flew down there.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody thinks about Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>They think about the oil, and they think about the

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<v Speaker 1>capture of Mandura. But Todd, tell us why you went

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<v Speaker 1>there and what you saw.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, Tim, most people just have totally forgotten about Venezuela

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<v Speaker 10>and the earthquake that happened not one but two thirty

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<v Speaker 10>nine seconds apart seven point two and a seven point

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<v Speaker 10>five earthquake. That earthquakes that hit Venezuela totally devastating.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in late June, right late late June.

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<v Speaker 10>June twenty fourth, and quite frankly just didn't get any

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<v Speaker 10>media play, international play. The world's forgotten, but the people

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<v Speaker 10>of Venezuela are hurting big time. Boots on the ground

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<v Speaker 10>are estimating upwards to one hundred thousand dead and missing.

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<v Speaker 10>And so we went there. I've been there a couple

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<v Speaker 10>of times, headed back there Sunday, and really it's the church.

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<v Speaker 10>Although Venezuela is a socialist communist regime, Maduro did get captured,

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<v Speaker 10>but you know, still a law of the same faces

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<v Speaker 10>are in place there. But the church is thriving in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 10>But the church is also hurting. I've met with over

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<v Speaker 10>two hundred and fifty pastors, will be meeting with another

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<v Speaker 10>two hundred and fifty pastors this next week, and you know,

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<v Speaker 10>they're ministering themselves. They've lost people. I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 10>how many pastors I met with Tim that lost a son,

0:25:55.400 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 10>a daughter, a spouse, a grandchild, and yet our still

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 10>having to meet the emotional and grief stricken needs of

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 10>their congregation. And so yeah, through Pastor Paul in the

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 10>National Faith Advisory Board and what we're doing with City

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 10>serve to collaborate together to really come alongside the local

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:22.959
<v Speaker 10>church in Venezuela to try to be of some assistance

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 10>to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd. I saw where a Samaritans person was there, also

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Franklin Graham, his daughter Sissy Graham Lynch, their boots on

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the ground type thing, and you're right, they're open and

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys are making a difference. You're showing up. That's

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>what you're being. The hands of beat of Jesus. That's

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>what we're called to do in the midst of all this, Todd.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe some people don't really understand City Serve City Serve International,

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.160
<v Speaker 1>who the organization is, what you guys do, But it's

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>a billion dollar kind of engine out there bringing humanitarian

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:55.159
<v Speaker 1>relief to people.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 10>Our goal is to is to resource the local church

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 10>that they can be the heroes in their community. And

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 10>we target the local church particularly in disasters, because that

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 10>church was there before the disaster, there in the middle

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 10>of it, and we'll be there long after all the

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 10>disaster relief organizations are gone. The church is still going

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 10>to be there, and so we really look to resource

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 10>the local church so that it can be the hands

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 10>and feet of Jesus as you just described, Todd.

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<v Speaker 1>You're also doing some major work in Ukraine I know

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the news cycle picked up again Russia, some missiles or

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever getting in Ukraine this week. But Todd talk to

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>us about you're developing a trauma response program. It's something

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>we're proud to associate be associated with you on You're

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>going to be meeting with pastors here coming up in

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks over in Poland, and then you're

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>going into Ukraine. But tell us to kind of work

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and the need that's there.

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 10>You know, you talk about war torn area that's Ukraine,

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 10>and you talk about the church and how it is

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 10>stayed in the midst of every bomb that's been flying

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 10>in Again last night rockets hit Kiev and some twenty

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 10>plus people died. This is just ongoing and the mental

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 10>health crisis that is happening in Ukraine right now cannot

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 10>be ignored by the Church. And because of the American

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 10>Association of Christian Councilors and your Trauma Informed Care Coaching certification,

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 10>we've been able to bring some of the best of

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 10>the best in Ukraine for this training. Ukrainian Baptist Theological Seminary,

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 10>Pentecostal Union of Ukraine, to Save Ukraine, to City Serve Ukraine.

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 11>I mean it's just.

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 10>Intercessors for Ukraine public reading scripture, all coming together for

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 10>the purpose of having this biblically excellent material to help

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 10>people through the most difficult times of their lives.

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've got to realize that God has not abandoned them.

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>They've got to make sense of this insanity they've been

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>living in and through and what happens to them in

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>every aspect physically, emotionally, spiritually, relationally, and so much more. Todd,

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I took the hat to you and the leadership there

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>at City Serve International.

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Faith.

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Todd, all this comes back to, and it's anchored in

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>our hope we have in Christ. And thank God, the

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>current administration here in our country sees faith. That's significant,

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>so much so that the President and the administration put

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>in place a White House Faith Office. I know, they

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>set forth that Religious Liberty Commission that's done some amazing work.

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>The Department of Justice has also been involved in what

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>they they were dubbing the Anti Christian Bias Task Force.

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 2>But Todd, there also seems to be a surge in

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 2>faith in America.

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Bible sales are soaring, The younger generations

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>are showing up in church. Young Men in particular under

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the age of thirty are saying that faith is important

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to their everyday life. Over forty two percent said that,

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and Todd, we're seeing revival on college campuses and more

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>talk to us about faith and getting stuff done. It's

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>one thing to talk about it and around it, but

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a whole other thing to implement programs that actually

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>move the needle so that people quote experience what it's

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>like to be loved on by God. And God has

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>no greater plan than to use people like us to

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>be his hands and feet.

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 10>As you say, yeah, that is so that is so good.

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 10>You're spot on with this. There is a surgeon, a

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 10>resurgence of faith. There's some great things happening, whether it's

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 10>on the college campus with Unite Us, the organization there

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 10>that's just seeing Revit will sweep across our secular college campuses,

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 10>to the public reading of scripture quite frankly on secular

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 10>campuses is rising as well. All these things are just

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 10>amazing positive signs. I'll say this though, Satan doesn't necessarily

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 10>mind if you if you put your hat in the

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 10>faith ring. He just doesn't want you to do anything

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 10>about it. You know, and that's where we must come together,

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 10>and we must really shake the leaves and and and

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 10>encourage pastors in particular to be able to take bold

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 10>stands to say now it's our time, you know, to

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 10>teach the whole counsel of God. It with this resurgence

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 10>of faith, there has to be a resurgence of courage

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 10>as well. And they need people of God need to

0:31:53.960 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 10>stand up say rights right and wrongs wrong. And that's

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 10>really our prayer now, and to get these young people discipled.

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 10>They are hearing some voices that really are contrary to

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 10>what we would call the the standard Judeo Christian practice

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 10>of backing Israel and supporting Israel and h and so.

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 10>On the one hand, great things happening, we need to

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 10>stay vigilant. We need to disciple these young people into

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 10>the ways of God and in quite frankly, how to

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 10>how to flesh out their faith.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's that old saying, Todd? All this necessary for

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>evil to triumph is for good men and women to

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<v Speaker 1>do nothing.

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<v Speaker 10>Edmund Burke said it said it best there.

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<v Speaker 1>It is at the end of the day, I make

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<v Speaker 1>all those who come behind us, Todd, find us faithful.

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what the scripture, says, I was great to see you,

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>my friend, Todd Lamfeir, Thank you for joining me. Thank you,

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Kim coming up next. He is a best selling author, podcaster,

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and founder of Homeword. Jim Burns is with us.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you for joining me.

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<v Speaker 11>A privilege to be with you. Tim, Thanks for all

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<v Speaker 11>you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, family, everybody's talking about the family, The decimation

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>really of the family, Jim as you through the years

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>of just seeing what's happened. Yeah, what are your thoughts

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>about the current state of the family and.

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Where are we going?

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, well, I think there's two parallel tracks. I'm actually

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 11>pretty excited about a lot of the younger generation that's

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 11>saying we're going to take family serious. The Zach world,

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 11>your son, other people who are saying, hey, we are

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.359
<v Speaker 11>about family, And there's this parallel track that's doing that,

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 11>and I think they're going to really succeed, and I

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 11>think they're going to flourish. There's another track that's just

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 11>breaking apart quicker than we've ever seen the family happen.

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 11>For example, when you look at the gen Z generation,

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 11>you've got kids who are coming back to church, but

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 11>you also have kids who twice as many atheists, so

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 11>you've got a lot of things going on. And the

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 11>famili's complicated. I was just speaking at a megachurch in

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 11>Austin and the topic was on complicated families, and I said,

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 11>how many of you do not have complicated families? No

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 11>one raised her hand in all five services, and the pastor,

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.879
<v Speaker 11>who's my good friend, said, my wife didn't even raise

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 11>her hand, I said, well, we all have complicated families,

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 11>but no, the family could be is in trouble in

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 11>some ways. And then also we've got to look at

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 11>the positive side too. There's some people who are taking

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 11>on the seriousness of creating media safe homes, talking to

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 11>their kids about sex and sexuality, engaging in faith conversations.

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>That's good, Yeah, Joe, A lot of people have been

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>talking about how we're lost in our screens. I was

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>just on a trip and I just I paused just

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to look around me because I find myself loshed in

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>my own phone. You know what I'm saying, our digital devices.

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 1>But you're be'al talking about doom, scrolling, bed routing, all

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.800
<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. And true, I mean, we are lost

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>in our phones. But what are the culprits that really

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:10.359
<v Speaker 1>destroy closeness, connectedness, that wiring that we all crave in

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>our families.

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 11>Well, one of them really is the screen. I mean,

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 11>we really we're out of control. And what's crazy is

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 11>it's not just the kids who are addicted to screen time,

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 11>it's also the parents. So I think that we have

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 11>to take a step back now that we have some

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 11>information and even some research on it, and realize even

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 11>how it plays in our brain and what's going on

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 11>there and relay is that we've got to create I

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 11>mentioned the phrase create a media safe home, and what

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 11>that means is we're not going to be our kids

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 11>best friends. We can't give our kids cell phones too early.

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 11>We have to manage that. We have to watch through that.

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 11>But we also have to so as a family, I

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 11>think we need to come up with some principles that

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 11>help us create this media safe home so that we

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 11>can have family time. We're making it the babysitter. So

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 11>kids are learning how to self soothe at a year

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 11>and a half because it works, but it's not healthy

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 11>for that. So we hand them the phone and they

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 11>get to watch Thomas the Train. It's not even a

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 11>bad thing. But now they're self soothing with the digital device.

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 11>The dopamine drop, even at a young age, continues through

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 11>you know, through adulthood, and we've got to we've got

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 11>to be thinking about this in a different way. The

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 11>question I always ask is are you building your family

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 11>up through media or are you tearing it apart? And

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 11>if you're tearing apart, then families have to take some courageous,

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 11>bold moves and there are things you can do that

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 11>in a positive way.

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jim.

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 1>In the midst of all this too, we're hearing now

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot about family estrangement. Yeah, basically kids going no

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>contact with their mom and dad or vice versa, ghosting

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>one another. Uh, Jim, And I'm thinking about You've got

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>a new book out called When Your Adult Child Strays

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a little different. But at the same time, it's this

0:38:55.400 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>loss of connectedness again, this wiring that we're we're hardware for.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, Jim, what's happening, what's happening to us? And

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>are we where are we missing it? Why is this happening?

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<v Speaker 11>Well? Tim, First of all, in the culture, twenty seven

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 11>percent of families have someone who's been who is estranged.

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 11>And it could be a dad, it could be an

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 11>adult child, it could be somebody else. But the adult

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 11>child is number two. Dad's first adult children. And so

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 11>I think what's happening is there's a whole group of

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 11>people who are saying be in a safe relationship, and

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 11>to be safe, just be a strange from your family,

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.319
<v Speaker 11>be a strange from your family. And again, if there's

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.360
<v Speaker 11>sexual abuse, physical abuse, you've got to separate and do that.

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 2>You know that we get all that. Yeah, yeah, I'm

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 2>with you that.

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 11>But the issue is not But that's not the issue.

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 11>The issue is estrangement means a break in a family relationship,

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 11>a break in a relationship, so we've got to do

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 11>everything we can to build it back. And I think

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 11>parents do it wrong. Parents are saying to their kids,

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 11>you're wrong and I'm right, and let me tell you why.

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 11>As if that's going to help them, they feel even

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 11>less safe them. I think what parents have to do

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 11>in it's so hard. It takes discipline, but I think

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:12.399
<v Speaker 11>parents have to just stop and say, you know, how

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 11>can I mend the relationship. It's not about being right

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 11>or wrong. It's about how do I re establish and

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 11>reconnect the relationship, And I think you do that by

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:23.760
<v Speaker 11>embracing I'm sorry. So I was just talking with somebody recently,

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<v Speaker 11>and you know, the kid was more wrong probably than

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 11>the mom and the dad. But I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>I think you're going to have to just say, I

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<v Speaker 11>can see where you're coming from, I'm sorry you feel

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 11>that way. You don't have to agree with them, but

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 11>you can still show empathy. And when you do that,

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 11>now you're taking a step in the right direction of

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 11>building the relationship back. We have to understand that inn estrangement.

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 11>If we keep pounding, it's only going to cause them

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.439
<v Speaker 11>to go farther away and farther away and farther away.

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<v Speaker 1>Jif somewhere, maybe even in our counseling, this boundaries piece

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>has potentially gone too far, you know that we start

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about feeling unsafe or whatever, and it's just like,

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, seriously, what did I do move the

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.319
<v Speaker 1>fork the wrong place? I mean, I mean, did I

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>forget to put the towels back? I mean, seriously, what happened?

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Why are we all losing it?

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I just think there's a lot of factors going on

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>in culture. And then Jim think too also about a child.

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And I know this is the heart of your new book.

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>When your child, when your adult child strays, there's nothing

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.879
<v Speaker 1>more painful. I mean, it's beautiful. I have no greater

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:27.720
<v Speaker 1>joy than to know my children walk in the truth,

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>proclaim the truth. But boy, boy, when they stray, when

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>they get lost, it's just like a piece of your

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 1>heart just like goes with all that stuff.

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:41.280
<v Speaker 11>Right right, It cuts so deep. And I hear parents

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 11>say all the time, and a lot of it comes

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 11>out of they feel shame. They are not defined by

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 11>their kids' poor choices. And that's something I have to

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 11>say to them all the time. You're not defined by

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 11>your kid's poor choices. And what happens is your time

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 11>about boundaries and we build boundaries. People have taken it

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 11>so far that now it's called build walls. They're not

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 11>used in the word wall, but they're building walls. Boundaries

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.919
<v Speaker 11>are not well boundaries. It's a resource to be able

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 11>to bring an avenue to have good and healthier communication.

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 11>But it's not building walls where you strange or where

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 11>you deconstruct or whatever it might be. So for families

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 11>who are trying to have healthy boundaries, they have to

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 11>respect the adult child's boundaries, but they also have to

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 11>build healthy boundaries, like you know what here, here's how

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.240
<v Speaker 11>we do it in our house. That's a good boundary.

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 11>You don't you know, we're not going to let you

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 11>have your boyfriend or girlfriend, you know, stay at our

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 11>house together. Okay, that's if that. You know, that's a boundary.

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 11>That's fine. They're not going to say great job, wonderful

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 11>mom and dad. We think that's great. You still have boundaries.

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 11>That's healthy. At the same time, we can't build walls

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 11>up where we say, you know, we're arguing over politics,

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 11>we're arguing over you know, faith issues, We're arguing over everything,

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 11>and it's time to you know, build bridges, don't build walls,

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 11>and you can do that through healthy boundaries.

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Jim.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there are a lot of issues, and I

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>saw how you addressed a lot of them. But this

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>struggle between helping and rescuing, you know, getting lost in

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe a friendship versus a guide or I don't know

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>how all this, Jim, those dynamics get really tricky, but

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 1>they're important to clarify so that we can move in

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and out this space together as parents and children, you know,

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>or adults together in this new world. Yeah.

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 11>No, you're right, and we have to realize we have

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 11>to ask a question, you know, Tim, I think are

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 11>we helping or are we enabling? And so helping is good.

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 11>You know, we can help our adult children, we help

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 11>our younger children. Of course, enabling dependency on us is

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 11>not healthy for them because then that's going to cause

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 11>some entitlement and a failure to launch. So I think

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 11>it's important for us to understand that our job is

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 11>not to rescue them, and our job is not to

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 11>be their best friend. And that's for people who have

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 11>adult children or people who have younger children. We don't

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 11>have to be some horrible person. We can have serious

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 11>fun with them, really enjoy the relationship. But again, and

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.959
<v Speaker 11>too many people are enabling dependency and they're trying to,

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.479
<v Speaker 11>you know, be the savior of our kids. And last

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 11>time I saw we have a savior who's doing very fine.

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 11>We don't need to replace him when it comes to that.

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 11>So yeah, we can help, but we can enable. And

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 11>I think those are the two that's a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Right there, Joe, want to close this way.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember church service not long ago, Pastor Jonathan Fallwell said, hey, listen, everybody.

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Has a card out there.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a wayward son or daughter, a prodigal

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>or what have you, and you're really burdened about them,

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I want you to write the first name down and

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>if you feel comfortable, I want everybody to move the

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>front and put them up front, because we're gonna pay

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>over all of them. We're gonna pray for our kids.

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I had never seen the movement to the altar like

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I saw that day, right What it did is it

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:02.399
<v Speaker 1>spoke to my heart and it said, you know what,

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you have no idea what's going on behind the closed

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>door and the burden and the tears. You hear what

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, and the yearning for God to do something special.

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Jim.

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>That's why I appreciate this new book When your adult

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>child strays. If people want to learn more about you

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 1>this book, where can they go?

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 11>Well, I think they can go to our website at

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 11>homeword dot com. The book is also available on Amazon

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 11>and any place books are sold. And I appreciate your input.

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 11>And I think that illustration of what happened at your

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 11>church is so true. We can't do it alone. We've

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 11>got to We've got to be able to share our

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 11>pain so that we can do this in community, so

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 11>that we can and get the wise counsel that we

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 11>need so that we can thrive in relationships.

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Jim Burns.

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>When your adult child strays, get a copy of it

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to can Jim, thank you so much for joining me.

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 11>Thank you so much, Tim.

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 5>For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 5>Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and xit. We love being a

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:17.959
<v Speaker 5>part of your life.

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>And closing These are unprecedented times, they're wild times, they're

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 1>sometimes unbelievable. But know this, God's in control and he's

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 1>at work. I hope you're pressing close to Him and

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 1>his heart. Know that he loves you, that he wants

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to be involved in your life. Our hope, our strength

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 1>comes from the Lord. Again, here's an encouraging verse to

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 1>hold on to this week from the Bible, Isaiah forty one,

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 1>verse ten. So do not fear, for I am with you.

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Don't be dismayed, for I am your God. I will

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 1>strengthen you and help you. I will uphold you with

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>my righteous right hand. I love that hope you know

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that you can look to God for wisdom and direction

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 1>in your everyday life. Let me say this, I've also

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>learned as a professional counselor that it's pretty normal to

0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 1>have concern or fear or worry, especially when it feels

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>like not the way it's supposed to be. But I've

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 1>also learned too that if you're not careful to begin

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to consume you control you, it's easy to lose perspective,

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe even hope. It can get so dark for some

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 1>they would feel like life would be better off without them.

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I say this every week. You don't have to live

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>like that. Simply taking a step reaching out for help

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>or hope it's often the gateway to a new day

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 1>or a new you. And if you or someone you

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 1>love is struggling, hope you'll do that. You know there

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>are wonderful councils and pastors out there who care can

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>help you find the hope some of those answers that

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:36.880
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for. There are also a lot of amazing

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.279
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0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.520
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0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:48.520
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0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:53.120
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0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>That's christiancareconnect dot com. You know, if you don't have

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>a personal relationship with God, you know you can do

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.879
<v Speaker 1>that right now by asking Him to come into your life.

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>You can simply ask him to forgive you of your

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 1>sin and be your Lord and savior. Maybe you want

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:12.359
<v Speaker 1>to pray a prayer right now from your heart to his.

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Simply pray this prayer, Lord Jesus, I need you. I

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 1>know I'm a sinner. I believe you died on the

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>cross for my sins. I want to turn from how

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm living and invite you into my heart and my life.

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to trust you. I want to follow you

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>as my Lord and savior. Thank you for loving me,

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 1>forgiving your life for me. Thank you for the gift

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:38.919
<v Speaker 1>of grace and forgiveness, the gift of heaven. I pray

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:40.439
<v Speaker 1>all this in Jesus's name.

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<v Speaker 6>Amen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what the Bible says in Romans ten nine.

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<v Speaker 1>It says that if you confess with your mouth that Jesus' Lord,

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 1>you believe in your heart that God raised him from

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the dead, you will be saved. Best thing you can

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>do if you prayed that prayer is tell someone and

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>then commit to living your life for God. He'll give

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:01.279
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0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:02.040
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0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.319
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0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.759
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0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:12.759
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<v Speaker 1>right here on Sunday, The Road Forward on Real America's

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<v Speaker 2>Voice made by God