1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Let's turn now to our daily Bloomberg Law Brief, exploring 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: legal issues in the news. Today, Bloomberg Law host Tune 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Grosso and Greg Store discussed Volkswagen's admission of guilt in 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: the diesel cheating scandal. After U S. Attorney General Loretta 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Lynch announced charges against five Volkswagen executives. They speak to 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Eric Gordon, a professor at Michigan Law School, and Anthony Sabino, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: founding partner of Sabino and Sabino. Anthony in this plea agreement, Volkswagen, Uh, 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: as I understand it, admitted that its employees agreed to 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: deceive both regulators and customers. Can we look at this 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: as Volkswagen has sort of, uh, you know, given up 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: its employees in this case in order to to kind 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: of deal to some extent. Yes, Again, I think Volkswagen 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: realizes that this was the course of achieving a settlement 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: with the United States governments. I have no doubt that 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Attorney General Lynch, and she's always been known as a 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: hard charging, very thorough litigator, both in private practice as 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: well as in her various roles at the Justice Department 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: as U S Attorney por prior to being the g 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: that they demanded this as part of the bargain, and 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: UH again allegations which now would appair to be admitted 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: to UH, thereby becoming facts of a sort. UH. Seems 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: to be very little doubt that these folks did what 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: they were accused of, and Volkswagen viewed it as a 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: necessity put upon them. So from that point, Eric, this 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: settlement is the largest criminal fine imposed on an automaker. 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: It's almost five times what GM paid and four times 27 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: what Toyota paid to settle their cases. Why so large? Yeah, 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: because this is really severe. Um you had you know, 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: in GM, Um you probably had some stupidity and some 30 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: cover up. UM in v W what you had as 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: a company that made a conscious decision, we will violate 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: the law. We will pollute the air in order to 33 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: sell cars. Uh. Nobody at GM said, well, in order 34 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: to sell cars, we're gonna put in this Crumby ignition switch. 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: They put in an ignition switch that turned out to 36 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: be Crumby, and they knew about it and didn't change it. 37 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: But they didn't upfront say wow, we're gonna make some money. 38 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: We gotta make money. We gotta sell cars. UM. And 39 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: the only way we can do it is by putting 40 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: in a crumby ignition switch. So the wrongdoing here is 41 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: to use the technical legal term just so yucky. It's 42 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: just so despicable that, uh, you know, I'm surprised that 43 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: the multiple wasn't even higher. That's Eric Gordon, the professor 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: at Michigan Law School, and Anthony Sabino, founding partner of 45 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: Sabino and Sabino, speaking to Bloomberg Law host June Grosso 46 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: and Greg Store. You can listen to Bloomberg Law weekdays 47 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: at one pm all street time here on Bloomberg Radio 48 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: and s this Morning's Bloomberg Law Brief. You can find 49 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: more illegal news have Bloomberg Law dot com and Bloomberg 50 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: b NA dot com. Attorneys will find exceptional legal research 51 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: and business development tools there as well. 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