1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Questions at running back questions in the secondary Welcome Bird Gang. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me. We attempt to 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: answer those questions. Who steps up in the absence of 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: James Connor? And if Jalen Thompson is not available, then 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: how does the defense adjust? Oh and Hollywood Brown wasn't 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: spotted during Wednesday's practice. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode six 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: eighty four, and it starts now. 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Bhoo to Baker? What heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable? 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai Crowd, partner of 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Acycardinals 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: dot com, Slash podcasts. 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: He's at a ten half of five. He's it again? 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: So far Harry Magic? 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig Griolud. 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: So we need to start with a public service announcement. 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: A team's depth chart is not the be all end all. 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: It is a tool to help those who cover the 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: team what might happen, not what will happen. So why 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: are we discussing this here on a Wednesday? Cover two 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: brought to you by Presented by a Hyundai proudly partner 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Well it was during practice on Wednesday. 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: ESPN's Adam Schefter tweeted the following. For what it's worth, 24 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: latest Cardinals depth chart lists running back Keant Ingram as 25 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: the starter and Amaro de Mercado as his backup. And 26 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: that was it. That was all that was written. And 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: took a moment. I was like, why was this tweeted 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: or put on X whatever the heck we're calling it 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: these days. I had no I it took me a while, Danny, 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: but I figured it out because Amrio was asked about 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: it during the open portion of media locker room availability. 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Fantasy football. That's the only reason this is a thing 33 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: fantasy football, because a starter has been hurt previously this season, 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: I e. Buddha Baker, and what happens. The guy who's 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: listed second on the depth chart moves up to become 36 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: the starter. We don't make a big deal about that. 37 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: In this case, we did, or Adam Schefter did. 38 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pretend like I didn't get a text 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: message from a close friend about that, and I'm just like, 40 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: what on earth? And of course I can't like first 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: of all, I can't say anying because I don't know 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: the answer right. But like with the depth chart, that's 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: just so it's just silly to me because you're right 44 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: on a full healthy depth chart, it goes James Connor, 45 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: Keanta Egram, Amari de Mercado. So if James Connor's out, 46 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: everyone's just gonna slide up. Now, personally, I don't really 47 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: think that's necessarily how the reps are gonna shake out. 48 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm in complete agreement with you. 49 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: Yes, that doesn't happen often on this podcast. Kanta Ingram 50 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: has missed two games with a neck injury. He's back 51 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: at practice Wednesday. When Jonathan Gannon spoke to the media 52 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: before that practice about Kyanta Ingram being back out there, 53 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: to me, it kind of sounded like he'll he'll be 54 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: out there Sunday as well, kind of like, Okay, he's healthy, 55 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: he's cleared. Ingram hasn't played in two weeks. On top 56 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 3: of that, when he was playing, whether or not the 57 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: fault falls fully on him, he was not efficient. He 58 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: was really struggling to get positive yardage. So James Connor 59 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: was carrying the load and then it was kind of 60 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: split with Keyanta Ingram some de Mercado and Demercatto looked 61 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: good when he stepped up that second half of Sunday's 62 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: game against the Bengals. Once James Connor did not return 63 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: with the knee injury which put him on IR so 64 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: he's out for at least four games, It's not going 65 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: to look the same. Nobody else in that room is 66 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: built like James Connor. The style I would say, probably 67 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: kant to Ingram is probably the most similar to a 68 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: James Connor just from that build and probably their skill set. 69 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: But what you're going to get out of a Mari 70 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 3: Demercatto is going to be different. It's not necessarily bad, 71 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: and I think Sunday was a good example of that. 72 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: It's not going to look the same, but it didn't 73 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: really feel like the run game missed a beat once 74 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: it was Demercato running the show. But when it comes 75 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 3: to the depth chart and if both Ingram and De 76 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: Mercato are healthy, there's a good chance Ingram will get 77 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: the start. I'm just I don't think the reps will 78 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: be as uneven as they typically are when James Connor 79 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: is your starter, where he is your RB one and 80 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: everybody else is you know, on an as needed basis. 81 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: When it comes to those offensive snaps, if Ingram starts, 82 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: I would imagine it's a pretty supplemental role with de Mercato. 83 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: Put it this way, who starts, who doesn't start is 84 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: not that big a deal because its one snap. Jesse 85 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: Luketta got a start last week at fullback. To your point, 86 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: it's not who starts, how many reps are you getting 87 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: on that football field? And I do think based off 88 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: what has happened most recently, you're gonna ride the hot hand. 89 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: Now each week is a new week, and I get 90 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: it the opponent factors in as well. But de Mericado 91 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: played well after Connor went down with that knee injury, 92 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: and Ingram, when we have seen him on the field, 93 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: has struggled. Now could be no fault of his own, 94 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: the blocking in front of him. He just hasn't had 95 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: a lot of carries for a lot of positive yards. 96 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: Let's just put it that way. And Deemricato has now 97 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: where the edge is to me and this again not 98 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: being told anything, but you look at where between those 99 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: two who has been more involved in the offense and 100 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: the passing game, and that's where Mercado has a huge 101 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: advantage as far as targets, receptions, receiving yards, and he 102 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: brought it up in the locker room earlier on Wednesday. 103 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: He's been that third down back pass protection and if 104 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: you're in there on third down as a running back, 105 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: the coaches trust you to protect the quarterback and also 106 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield. 107 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: The running back situation is really intriguing to me this 108 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: week because you also have Corey Clement, you also have 109 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: Damian Williams, and you also have the newly acquired I believe, 110 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: Tony Jones Junior. So who is active? You're not going 111 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: to have all of them active. Surely you've got too 112 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: many other first of all, that wouldn't make sense of, 113 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: while you've got too many other needs i e. The 114 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: backfield that you're going to need some depth. So who 115 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: are you activating? On Sunday? 116 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: You could have three running backs active, which is not 117 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility. But if you are 118 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: planning to elevate someone i e. Clement or a Damian Williams, 119 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: now with Clement that would be his third elevation, which 120 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: is fine. And then Monday, all of a sudden, you 121 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: got to make a decision. You add him to the 122 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: active roster or you exposed him to waivers and he 123 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: can sign with whomever he wants to. As a believe 124 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: he's a vested veteran, so he wouldn't have to be 125 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: exposed to waivers. 126 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: And then if he is not picked up moving forward, 127 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 3: Cardinals could continue to elevate him correct put. 128 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: Him back on the practice squad. Yeah, so there's that 129 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: now keeping three running backs, and again you could have 130 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: you could elevate Core, you could elevate Damien and just 131 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: make maybe Tony Jones inactive because he just got here. 132 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: And Yeah. The one advantage though, that Jones does have 133 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: over I wouldn't say over a Cory or a Damian 134 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: is that he has been in a training camp. He 135 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: has been playing. He was playing for the Saints and 136 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: playing a lot. I mean, the numbers don't bear it out, 137 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: but he was seeing a lot of time on the 138 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: football field, So it's not like he's someone off the street. 139 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: He has been playing. But now you're learning a new 140 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: system here, and a system that I do think is 141 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: going to be changing. It has to change. It changed 142 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: in the second half against the Bengals on Sunday, you 143 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: lose number six, and yeah, the decision making changes. What 144 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: do you want to do as an offense changes? Do 145 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: you go forward on fourth and one inside the twenty 146 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: yard line if you have a James Connor or do 147 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: you run that play if you have a James Connor 148 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: at your availability. I'd much rather have it in Connor's 149 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: hands than Dobbs's hand, especially out of the shotgun. So 150 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: I do think you're going to see a little bit 151 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: different of a run game slash offense because you lose 152 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: a huge part of that offensive scheme without James Connor. 153 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: I think something too that'll be interesting moving forward. This 154 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: was the most immobile quarterback Josh Dobbs was the previous 155 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: three weeks. He was just behind James Connor for second 156 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: and most rushing yards. He had gains of about like 157 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 3: forty eight forty four I think fifty eight. I think 158 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 3: those were his previous three stats for rushing yards for 159 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: the last three games, and then against the Bengals he 160 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: had three carries for one yard. I think that's going 161 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: to be an aspect of this offense that might change 162 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: because exactly what you were saying, none of these running 163 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 3: backs are what James Connor is to no fault to 164 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: their own. That's just it is what it is. That's 165 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: why James Connor has gotten paid, That's why he's a 166 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: starting running back. But when you have a player like 167 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: Connor that can either distract or block or do what 168 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: he needs to do, that's been part of the reason 169 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: that Dobbs has been able to use his legs the 170 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: way that he has. How is that going to change 171 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: if you don't have that threat the way you have. 172 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: We've heard that it's going to take a collective effort 173 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: to replace James Connor because he does different things so well. 174 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: And I buy that because I do think you you 175 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: going to see maybe a little bit more of a 176 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: rotation at running back than if you had a healthy Connor. 177 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: Though you talk to running backs, Danny, they always say 178 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: they get better as the game goes on. 179 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: The more touch crazy me, the more you get tackled. 180 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: The more you get hit, you get a better feel 181 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: for the game. Edge rushers say the same thing, because 182 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: you're going up against somebody and you're setting them up 183 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: for the next move. Running Backs typical, okay, this is 184 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: what I can cannot do get away with. But if 185 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: you're only getting a couple of carries and then someone 186 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: else's coming in. So I get I understand the bi 187 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: committee approach, but I also understand a running back, regardless 188 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: if it's a rookie or a ten year veteran, they 189 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: want to be able to build upon the previous play, 190 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: feel better, get their legs under them, figure out what 191 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: the defense is doing, and then react accordingly. Tough to 192 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: do that if you're only getting a couple of snaps 193 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: and then you're sitting for a series. 194 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: This is important for KeAndre Ingram to come back and 195 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: and have a better outing than what he had before 196 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: this neck injury. It's not the same, but it kind 197 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: of reminds me of my Ja Sanders, who's still on 198 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: ir with his hand, because we saw sparks from Sanders 199 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: last year, and so this is an integral point in 200 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: his career, especially with the new staff, of needing to 201 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: show what you can do to this staff, to teams 202 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: around the league, and to still be hurt. That's that 203 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: can play a big time role in how the rest 204 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: of your career shakes out. This early on in your career, 205 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: I think with the limited opportunities we saw from Ingram 206 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: last year, the not great showing so far from Ingram 207 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: to start this year again with the new staff like that, 208 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: this is important for him to come out and show 209 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: what he can do. And he earned that RB two 210 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: spot after training camp in preseason. I don't want to 211 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: take that away from him. It wasn't just given to him. 212 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: But now you need to come back and you need 213 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: to show a similar performance of what we saw was Minnesota, 214 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: right where he had a great game. In my career, remembering. 215 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: Correctly, I believe, so, yeah. 216 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: Show that right, show what you can do. Come back 217 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: now that you're healthy and you're cleared, and earn. 218 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: Those reps you brought up Dobbs in his ability to run. 219 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: Easier to have a quarterback as a threat when you're 220 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: close or you have the lead, so you're not forced 221 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: to throw the ball a lot like the Cardinals have 222 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks, especially late in games. The 223 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: other wild card in all of this is Rondell Moore. 224 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: He's already had eight carries for one hundred and sixteen 225 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: yards now. He had six all of last year, but 226 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: those were carries by the game book only because. 227 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: They exactly were in the game book. 228 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: Craig the first play the game, but those were throws 229 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. So yes, it's a pass play, 230 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: but the game book lists it as a run to 231 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: the right or to the left. So the previous coaching 232 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: staff like Rondell Moore in space, giving the ball to 233 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: him behind the line of scrimmage. This coaching staff, we've 234 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: seen number four in the backfield, whether that's taking a 235 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: handoff a direct snap, It's looked a lot different now. 236 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: I wonder how much more we might see of that again, 237 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: maybe not specifically this week, but you're not gonna have 238 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: Connor for four more games. Potentially more, but it's going 239 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: to be at least four. You have to figure out 240 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: some way to make sure you keep this running game 241 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: as potent as it has been. 242 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: I do think that's a great option. I don't think 243 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: that's an option multiple times in a game. I mean, 244 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: I think part of the reason we've seen such success 245 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: with Rondel Moore out of the backfield, those chunk plays 246 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 3: that what four forty eight year touchdown against the Cowboys 247 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: where he was untouched out of the backfield. Those kinds 248 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: of plays don't work. If that's all Rondel Moore is 249 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: doing every single game. I think offensive coinder Drew Petsing 250 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: has done a nice job using those where and when 251 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: it makes sense, and even when it's not that type play. 252 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: We've seen more in motion and you're right talking about 253 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: getting you know, the snaps or different kind of handoffs, 254 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: and it's been good to see because it feels like 255 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: this staff has a better grasp on how to utilize 256 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: Rondeo Moore's unique skill set. I still think that not 257 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: just more but wide receivers as a whole. I mean, 258 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: it's been interesting to see it kind of go up 259 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: and down and hasn't been consistent enough for my liking. 260 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: I mean, Michael Wilson had his first target what the 261 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: fourth quarter against Cincinnati. That's bizarre to me, especially coming 262 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: off the game he had. Look, every game dictates different 263 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: game plans, right, Every game unfolds in a different way, 264 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: So of course it's going to change week to week. 265 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: But that's been something that I has kind of been 266 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: frustrating in my eyes of Hollywood Brown continues to get 267 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: more targets, more receptions, Right, that's the go to guy. 268 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: I have no problem with that. Where's Michael Wilson? Where 269 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: how are you using Rondeo Moore, Zach Pascal when they 270 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: are out there and have those opportunities, that to me 271 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: is still a big part of this offense that has 272 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: not been there yet. 273 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't just bizarre to you, to me, to everyone 274 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: else watching that game, either on television or in person, 275 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: that the first target to number fourteen is three minutes 276 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: to go in the fourth quarter. It was also bizarre 277 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: to Josh Dobbs he was asked about that. He mentioned. 278 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: Dobbs mentioned that he texted Michael Wilson after the ballgame, 279 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: and he said Wilson had a great attitude about it. 280 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: But Dobbs, again as we've heard so far this season, 281 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: took full responsibility. I can't wait until the fourth quarter 282 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: to give you your first target. He needs to be 283 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: more involved earlier in the game. Establish him early in 284 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: the game. And I get it game flow or whatever, 285 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: but I think that falls more on the quarterback than 286 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: it does on the play caller. Because you can have 287 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: the play designed, you have a number of different options, 288 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes you do as a quarterback, have to look 289 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: for your number one guy, and yes that's Hollywood Brown, 290 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: but your number two guy, who is your top playmakers. 291 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: Don't ignore someone and if you have to force it, 292 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: you force it, especially coming off the game that Wilson 293 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: had the previous week two touchdowns. So yeah, you knew 294 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: that the defense was going to focus on him, maybe 295 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more, But that doesn't mean you go 296 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: away from him, and I think Dobbs realized that at 297 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: the end. 298 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: I agree with what Dobbs was saying, and I like 299 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: the accountability because at least when it comes from Dobbs, 300 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said at least because it's not like 301 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: it feels any differently from other players or coaches in 302 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: the organization. It's genuine. It feels genuine when Dobbs gets 303 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: up in front of the media and talks about accountability 304 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: the same way he talked about having accountability directly after 305 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: the game when it came to those turnovers, which is 306 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: something we had not seen from Dobbs, had not seen 307 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: from this offense. The first turnover was Week one in Washington, 308 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: that's the fumble that Dobbs lost. And then since then 309 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: this Cardinals team hasn't had a turnover, hadn't lost a 310 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 3: turnover battle. And then against the Bengals, an interception, a 311 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 3: pick six, turnover on downs, stripsack were covered by the Bengals. 312 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 3: It was not a great performance by Dobbs by this 313 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: offense as a whole, I think the same way that 314 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: the Bengals used it as a get right game. Mentally, 315 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals, to a certain extent, you're kind 316 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: of due for a game like that, right, I mean, 317 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: just with the situation of Josh Dobbs coming in so 318 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: quickly and all the injuries and everything you've been going through. 319 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: Of I'm not feeling totally down on this team because 320 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 3: they had one crappy performance because we've seen enough good. 321 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: I feel like from the personnel that has been out 322 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: there that Josh Dobbs can keep them in games. This 323 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: team can win games. This defense can stop good offenses, 324 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: they can force turnovers. You've just faced a really, really 325 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: good team in the forty nine ers, and you faced 326 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: a Bengals team that finally got a healthy quarterback in 327 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, and that connection with Jamar Chase finally clicked. 328 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 3: So I'm not feeling totally down after this loss to 329 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: the Bengals for the Cardinals because I think there's still 330 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: been enough good to where it's okay, right, Like games 331 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: like that are going to happen. The sky's not falling? 332 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: Are you calling your shot Sunday against the Rams in 333 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: terms of what is that? What you're doing the get 334 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: right game for the Cardinals? Offensively? Are we trying to 335 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: speak something into existence as you've had several successes in 336 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: the past. 337 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: But then when you put me on the spot last time, 338 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: I like panicked and I said, Key Trell Clark was 339 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: going to get a pick six. And I don't think 340 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: that was any I mean, you know, we didn't. I 341 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: don't think there was any close opportunity for that. 342 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: No, but then you made it up for because Garrett 343 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: Williams came off at the list. 344 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: So that's why I kind of went on that one. 345 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: I kind of ignored the Key Trall part. But you're 346 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: you're good on the Garrett Williams, you know when things 347 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: went well. Now as we speak here on Wednesday on 348 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Yndai Proud partner of the 349 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, is it concerning to you. It's not to 350 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: me right now because it is Wednesday. But we did 351 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: not see Hollywood Brown on the practice field during the 352 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: open portion of Wednesday's practice and we are speaking in 353 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: full disclosure here Berd Gang speaking before the injury report 354 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: has been released. So maybe depending on what that injury 355 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: report says, we'll sway my thinking one way or the other. 356 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: But a Wednesday absence, I'm going to say not that big. 357 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: A deal, not concerning because it is early in the week. 358 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: We from our knowledge Hollywood Brown did not suffer any 359 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: injury in Sunday's game, so this could be rest although 360 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 3: we haven't really seen vet rest days yet, so maybe 361 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: maybe it's just something of like being precautionary or just 362 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: trying to rest. It's also it's also flu season, and 363 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: I know that sounds crazy, but I know that right 364 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 3: because we just had our flu shots. 365 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: That still hurts. 366 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: Oh you need to lift more weights, Craig. But my 367 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: point being is like there is We're at the time 368 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: of the year where people get sick like that. You know, 369 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: It's just things can happen, and so I'm not concerned yet. Again, 370 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: we haven't gotten the injury report, so if it is 371 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: something like another hamstring or like right, then okay, yeah, 372 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: my ears will perk up a little bit. But where 373 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: we're sitting right now recording this, I don't really have 374 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 3: concern for why Hollywood Brown was not seen a practice. 375 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm in agreement. Let's go with that. Let's run 376 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: with that now. Jalen Thompson, who is dealing with a 377 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, he was not spotted during the open portion 378 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: of practice. Will kind of monitor that situation. The good 379 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: news is is JT was not placed on IR. James 380 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: Connor was. So that should tell you or read something 381 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: into the severity of the knee injury for Connor and 382 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: the hamstring injury for Thompson. At least that's what I'm 383 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: hoping here Again on Wednesday. 384 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: It almost feels like the floodgates are about to open, 385 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 3: doesn't Is that what it kind of feels like when 386 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: it comes to these injuries on defense. I mean, look, 387 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 3: it's non excuse. Every team happens, every team from the season. 388 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: L J. 389 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: Colli are done with biceps. Carlos Walkins done with biceps. 390 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: Two of your starting d lineman, Josh Woods came back 391 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 3: from his ankle injury, which was great. He missed three games. 392 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 3: It was good to see him back out there. He 393 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: had a good game. Buddha Baker is still on IR 394 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: with his hamstring injury. This is the. 395 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 1: This is his last game. He's got Sunday and then 396 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 1: he can come back right because he'll miss h'll have 397 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: missed four games on IR plus five games total. Yeah, 398 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: so he got hurt. 399 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: In week one and he tweeted. He tweeted prior to 400 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: Sunday's game. You know, hey, you know sooner rather than later. 401 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: So that makes me feel good. But then you lose 402 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: Jalen Thompson. That's a huge blow from how Thompson has 403 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: been stepping up and performing for this defense. You just 404 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: hope it's not long term. When you've got a hamstring 405 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: and you're not out there Wednesday, we need to see Thursday. 406 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: You know, again the injury report, it doesn't really feel 407 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: like it would be realistic to assume that Jalen Thompson 408 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: will be ready to play Sunday in LA. Hamstrings are 409 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 3: just they're tricky. 410 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Could be why during the open portion on Wednesday that 411 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: we saw Antonio Hamilton working with the safeties, Garrett Williams 412 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: was also working with the safeties as well. Not sure 413 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: if this is the week that Garrett gets added to 414 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: the active. 415 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: Roster or I'll say, yes, that's what I'm going to manifest, 416 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: That's what I'll manifest that Garret Williams will be active Sunday. 417 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: There is certainly a need in that secondary. We'll get 418 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: to that here in a moment. But with Antonio Hamilton 419 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: spotted working with the safeties, that could be more of Okay, 420 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: not that he's going to play safety, but maybe play 421 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more in the slot, which is where 422 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson has been playing a lot. Because in that 423 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: safety room you do have Kavon Wallace note on him 424 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: a little bit later on Andre Saucerer Joy Blunt, who 425 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: was forced into action on Sunday against the Bengals. So 426 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: there are guys in that room, but guys that are 427 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: not named Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson. To the point is, yeah, 428 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: you can only say next man up so many times, 429 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: and then that next man up is someone literally off 430 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: the street. 431 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 3: And that's the difficult part for the players and the coaches. Right. 432 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: You can only do so much, right, I mean, there's 433 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 3: a reason that some of these players are starters and 434 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: some aren't. Right, There's just a difference in skill set 435 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: and experience. I do think as a whole this defense 436 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: we should give them credit. They have done a nice 437 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 3: job with all of the injuries of the players that 438 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: have come in and stepped up and again continuing that fight. 439 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: And it's not just injuries someone like a Buddha Baker, 440 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: where you're going into the game knowing you're not going 441 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: to have them. Jalen Thompson got hurt during Sunday's game 442 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: against the Bengals. Antonio Hamilton had to exit twice, once 443 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: with an ankle. He walked off to the locker room 444 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: without a shoe on his right foot and then came 445 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 3: back and out his ankles tape, then had to come 446 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: out again because he was being checked for a concussion 447 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 3: cleared protocol and went back in. These are fast decisions 448 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: that are having to be made from a personnel standpoint 449 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: of players going in and being able to be in 450 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: the right spot at the right time. 451 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: So you're dealing with injuries, and then you're dealing with 452 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: performance that hasn't been up to the players standard, to 453 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: the coaches standard, specifically the secondary Joe Burrow to Jamar 454 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: Chase on Sunday against the Bengals because the numbers do 455 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: not look good at all, specifically for Marco Wilson, he 456 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: did not have a good game. Has not had. He's 457 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: had a few of those games this season, not all 458 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: on Marco, not all on that secondary. But if you 459 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: do not have a consistent pass rush, if you're not 460 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: affecting the quarterback, you are asking a ton of these 461 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: cornerbacks to cover wide receivers. And this week it's gonna 462 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: be Cooper Cup and Puka Nakua, two players that Matthew 463 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: Stafford has won a long term relationship one with and 464 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: second of all with the rookie. Certainly not very well 465 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: as far as the length of time, but they have 466 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: connected instantaneously as far as quarterback and wide receiver. So 467 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a number of different wide receivers potentially 468 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: that you're going to have to pay attention to as 469 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: a Cardinals defense. And as much as that secondary as 470 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: a struggle, Danny figure out a way to get to 471 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. And I know the Cardinals don't like to blitz, 472 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: although Sunday they blitzed more than they had all season. 473 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: It's not something that this coaching staff likes to do. 474 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: But it's that adapt ability that we keep hearing, and 475 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: part of that might be to change what they do 476 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: until guys start getting. 477 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: Healthy Matthew Stafford might also be the most immobile quarterback 478 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 3: this defense has faced all year. He doesn't run. He 479 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: doesn't need to for the most part. I mean this 480 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: team as a whole, the Rams aren't running the ball 481 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: in general, they haven't had a need to. Cooper Cup 482 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: had his first game back last week, coming off ir 483 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 3: with the hamstring injury. Not great timing for the Cardinals, 484 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 3: although they have found a way to shut Cup down 485 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: in the past. And you're right, Pouka Nakua has come 486 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 3: out with an impressive hot start to his career. He's 487 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 3: got the second most receiving yards almost six hundred, so 488 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: that connection is absolutely there, and now it becomes a 489 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: dynamic duo with Cup's return. I do think this is 490 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: a game where you can blitz a little bit more. 491 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: And I think that Matthew Stafford is a quarterback again 492 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 3: that you can kind of get into the backfield and 493 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: maybe disrupt him a little more than most of the 494 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: quarterbacks you have already faced this season. He's not the 495 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: most It's interesting because Matthew Stafford's completion percentage isn't spectacular, 496 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 3: but this Rams team he's still slinging it. I mean, 497 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: he's still passing the ball. He's got the fourth most 498 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 3: passing yards in the league. So it's an interesting rams 499 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: offense of there weren't high expectations. It's not like they're 500 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 3: absolutely incredible at really anything, but they're still finding a 501 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: way to get it done. 502 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: They're relying heavily on the pass game so far this 503 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: season to get their wins, which they have two of 504 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: them in five games. But to your point about Stafford, 505 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: he's been blitzed sixty three times. That's almost thirteen times 506 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: a game, and according to the next Gen Stats, he 507 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: has been pressured on forty two percent of his dropbacks. 508 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: That is the sixth highest among quarterbacks. And when he 509 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: does get pressure, his completion percentage drops below fifty percent. Overall, 510 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: it's just over sixty one percent completion percentage. But going 511 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: back to what the Cardinals do defensively, they do not blitz. 512 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: They have the lowest blitz rate. They have the second 513 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: lowest pressure rate. Now that falls more on not just 514 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: the scheme, but also the players not winning their one 515 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: on one battles. Not so much are you bringing four, 516 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: bringing five, but are you beating the guy across from you? 517 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: To where I would like to see a little bit more, 518 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: whether that's from the interior or from your outside linebackers, 519 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: but not allow in this most recent case, Joe Burrow 520 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: to stand in the pocket pick apart the secondary to 521 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: the point where Marco Wilson is chasing Jamar Chase nine 522 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: times out of ten. 523 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: When it comes to blitz, you don't have Budda Baker 524 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 3: and you there's a good chance, in my opinion, a 525 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: good chance, there is a chance you won't have Jalen Thompson. 526 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: So now, if you're going to try and get more 527 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: pressure from your front seven, which isn't uncommon for this team, 528 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: you're going to have to be in packages where you've 529 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: got probably one linebacker just Kaiser White most likely out there, 530 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 3: and you know, put out a third pass rusher to 531 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: try and get some pressure. I mean, when it comes 532 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: to a blitz and you're looking at personnel, well, again, 533 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 3: without Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson, it limits you. 534 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals and Rams play at one twenty five on Sunday 535 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: eight thirty is the pregame coverage again. Can the Cardinals 536 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: do what they have done each of the past two 537 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: seasons in the regular season, and that is win at 538 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium. They have won two of their last three visits, 539 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: the loss coming in that playoff game in two thousand 540 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: and one. But the Cardinals and Rams is the Week 541 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: six matchup, and we touched on Kavon Wallace and I 542 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: mentioned that there was going to be a little bit 543 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: of a notes on him a little bit later on, 544 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: and that is because Kavon Wallace is this week's sideline 545 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: exchange and we always like to promote things on Cardinals 546 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: cover too, especially when it involves Danny Surrek. 547 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: I appreciate that he was my sideline exchange interview, and 548 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: he was great. It was the first opportunity I've had 549 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: to really get some one on one time with Kveon. 550 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: He was acquired just before the season started off waiver claim, 551 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: so after you know, training training camp in preseason. But 552 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: he was great. His answers were great, were great. He 553 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: had long answers detailed and he's coming off, you know, individually, 554 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: a good game. That big stop fourth and one, that 555 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: goal line stand, that final tackle was him. He had 556 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: his first career interception. So we talked about a little 557 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: bit about that game. Not much talked about the foundation 558 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 3: with this defense and looking ahead to the Rams. So overall, 559 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: that was a pretty good interview. Good good to get 560 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: some one on one time with Kevon Wallace. So that'll 561 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: go up Thursday on officially YouTube channel, website. All that 562 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: good stuff. 563 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: And he was one of those players that was claimed 564 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: and immediately found himself in a role because of his 565 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: history with Gannon and Nick Rawlis in Philadelphia, So that 566 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: is that's one of those waiver claims like Okay, what 567 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: are the Eagles doing and what are these coaches know 568 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: past history with, what do they have a relationship with 569 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: and can they help us in Kavon Wallace. Especially with 570 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: the absence of Buddha Baker going into Week two and 571 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: now with Jalen Thompson potentially not being available this week, 572 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot more on Wallace's shoulders 573 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: as being that safety, that backend defense. 574 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: That's what he's been. He's played ninety four percent of 575 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: the defensive snaps, every defensive snap the last four games. 576 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: And how many games has Buddha Baker missed so far? 577 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: Four games? So this has been a player that the 578 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: Cardinals have relied on and he has stepped up to 579 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: the challenge. I feel like coming in right before the 580 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: season started, and I remember in Washington he had some 581 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: good plays and we were all kind of like, oh, okay, 582 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: that's impressive. You literally just got here and you're okay, 583 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: seems like you can handle this. So again and was 584 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: a good interview. I really enjoyed get and talk with him. 585 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: Also, pay attention when we talk about the secondary for 586 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, pay attention to number thirteen, Key Treil Clark. 587 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: Does he start this week? He did not start last week, 588 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: which was a huge surprise to me, And the question is, okay, 589 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: was it performance based or was it something else. Darren 590 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: Irban has posted a story on Easycardinals dot Com. Spoke 591 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: to Clark earlier on Wednesday, and Clark told Darren that 592 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: getting benched was quote something I expected. I accepted it, 593 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: played my role, and when my number was called, I 594 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: was ready to go end quote. Sitting here on Monday, 595 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: talking with Paul Calvic on Cardinals cover two, reading the 596 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: body language, watching Key Trail Clark on Sunday, where his 597 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: helmet was resting in his hand to his side, being 598 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: away from his teammates. I don't think Key Trail Clark 599 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: would have played on Sunday if it were not for 600 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: the injuries to Antonio Hamilton and Jalen Thompson. I'm reading 601 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: something into maybe there's nothing there, but I'm reading something 602 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: into someone who has started every single game, played nearly 603 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: every single snap, and then all of a sudden doesn't 604 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: get the start. So what happens this week, well, as 605 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 1: Darren mentions in his blog posts, we might never know 606 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: because there are still injuries in the secondary. The Cardinals 607 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: cannot afford to make a statement and sit if that 608 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: was indeed the case, a message being sent Cardinals need 609 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: key Troll Clark on the football field this. 610 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: Week, absolutely, And it's not just key Troll Clark, right, 611 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: it's not just Marco Wilson. Like the play as the whole, 612 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 3: especially against the Bengals. But you know, like the last 613 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: few weeks just hasn't It hasn't been what the standards 614 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 3: are from this defensive staff and from the players as well. 615 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: It doesn't. It makes sense to me because something we've 616 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: got from Jonathan Gannon since he got here was liking youth. Right. 617 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: If there are players who are pretty similar in the 618 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: skills set, a good example would be Colt McCoy and 619 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 3: walking away from the veteran quarterback of whether or not 620 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: the arm strength was still there, not being as mobile 621 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: right as some of those younger quarterbacks. It just seems 622 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: like if a younger player is going to be able 623 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: to handle themselves, that's kind of what you want to see. 624 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: Especially with where the Cardinals are right now, you want 625 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: to see what you have in those players. So maybe 626 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: this was a situation where you know what, kee Trell 627 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 3: Clark just needs needs some extra practice, Reps needs to 628 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: kind of not be a starter and take things in 629 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: maybe from the sideline. And he wouldn't be the if 630 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: that were the case, he wouldn't be the first player 631 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: to do that. That's not to say that this coaching 632 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: staff is done with key Troll Clark or anything. By 633 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: that means no, right. This could also be Antonio Hamilton 634 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: has been practicing really well and doing really well in 635 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 3: the limited role leading up to Sunday's matchup that the 636 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 3: staff wanted to give him a chance to start. 637 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: And as we've heard from Nick Roalis, roles are ever changing. 638 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon has said that as well, they will put 639 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: the players that they believe each week give them the 640 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: best chance to win that particular week, and is that 641 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: as a starter is that as a reserve or is 642 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: there no role at all for you on that given week. 643 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 3: Here's the other thing that'll be interesting was this was 644 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: the first game Sunday against the Bengals that we saw 645 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 3: any dB travel. Marco Wilson traveled with Jamar Chase. It 646 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 3: wasn't every play, it wasn't at all three touchdowns. Marco 647 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 3: was not the guy guarding Jamar Chase, but it was 648 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: for the most part. That was the first time all 649 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 3: season we'd seen a DBI travel. Normally, Kee trow Clark 650 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: and Marco Wilson stayed on their respective sides. Is that 651 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: going to be a thought moving forward? Was that just 652 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: for Jamar Chase? Was it something this coaching staff was 653 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: trying to figure out? Is somebody specific going to travel 654 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: with Cooper Cup or Puka Nukua this week in LA 655 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 3: We'll see, and. 656 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: Then we'll see postgame whether we can get Danny to 657 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: get the head coach to swallow an expletive on a 658 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: response to one of her questions. 659 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to manifest that again. 660 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: That was fun? 661 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: Was it for you for me? 662 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: Because I was not down in the locker room. 663 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: He wasn't. He wasn't He's with me, but it was passionate. 664 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 3: It was passionate. 665 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: Gannon was not upset at the question. It was what 666 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: had had happened, what had transpired on the field with 667 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: respects to what Jamar Chase was doing to Gannon's secondary 668 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: Remember cornerbacks, defensive backs, that's Gannon's baby, That's the position 669 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: he played, That's the position he knows best. So when 670 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: someone receives almost two hundred yards on fifteen catches, nineteen targets, yeah, 671 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna be a little upset. And Gannon 672 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: was a little upset, Okay, a lot upset. 673 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 3: On Sunday, yes, but not at me. 674 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: No, but not at Danny, because no one's ever upset 675 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: at Danny. Infect We're so happy for Danny. Sirek why 676 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: Thursday is a big day. She is going to be 677 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: filling in for Ron wolf Lee co hosting with Paul 678 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: Calvisi on The Big Red Rage. By the way, Hollywood 679 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: Brown is the scheduled guess, so. 680 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 3: I'll get the scoop on why he missed practice, not gone. 681 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: We went tune in That is Thursday at Trophy at 682 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: six pm and then seven pm on Thursday, the latest 683 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: Folkstales episode debuts. Renaissance Man premieeres on Thursday, October twelfth 684 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals official YouTube channel, going back and looking 685 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: at how Kurt Warner resurrected his career with the Arizona Cardinals. 686 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: He was signed in two thousand and five, Matt Lioner 687 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: drafted in two thousand and six. Yet it was Warner 688 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: who led the Cardinals to the Super Bowl in two 689 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, not Matt Liner. And that was according 690 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: to many, that run with the Cardinals is what ultimately 691 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: got Kurt Warner into the Hall of Fame. He needed 692 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: that next chapter in his career, and that is the 693 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: subject of this Folk Tales episode titled Renaissance Man. 694 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 3: And the best part of these folk Tales episodes is 695 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: that there's more than one way to consume them. There's 696 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: the video, portion, article, portion, podcast portion. We've got you 697 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: covered in every. 698 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: Way, all on azcardinals dot com and all the mini 699 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: social media channels as well. I'll let you go prepare 700 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: because I know as we speak here on Wednesday, it's 701 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: a big Thursday, So I'll let you go in and 702 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: prepare you. 703 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 3: I've got big shoes to fill for Wolf. Yes, Paul 704 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 3: will carry me. It's fine. 705 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: You might be carrying Paul. 706 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: No, well, Paul's the vet on this. I'm just gonna 707 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna roll with the punches with Paul. 708 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 1: Okay. It should be fascinating, it should be very entertaining, 709 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: you know what. 710 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: That's a great way to describe what it should be 711 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: as entertaining. 712 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely six pm, Big Red Rage on Thursday at Trophy 713 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: if you can make it. If not, you can listen 714 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: on flagship station Arizona Sports. And then, of course if 715 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: you miss it, it does show up on my podcast 716 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: feed Thursday night Friday morning, so don't miss any episode. 717 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 3: Thanks Craig. 718 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: On that note, we'll put a lid on This edition 719 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by Yundai, proud partner of 720 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks to our executive 721 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: producer joe Ma Mohundro, our associate producer Cody Fincher. For 722 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: Danny Sirek, I'm Craig Real Lou. We'll talk to you 723 00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.