1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Third hour of play and Buck kicks off right now. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being with us, everybody, appreciate all 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: of you listening to us here. And we're gonna dive 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: into a couple of stories. One is this boat, well, 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: I guess we'll call it a kinetic strike on a 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: suspected NARCO vessel, NARCO terrorist vessel making its way through 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: the Caribbean to some trendshipment point to bring most likely fentanyl, 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: but could be cocaine, fentanyl, a whole bunch of different 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: things on that boat into the United States. And Pete Hegseth, 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: who's the Secretary of Defense and whom Clay and I 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: know personally pretty well. He spoke about this because there 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: is Look, there's just some facts that to be aware 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: of it. This is an escalation. We've never done this before, 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: so it is new. This is not business as usual 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: in fighting the cartels. We've never been in a position 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: where we've used an immediate lethal force on a non 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: immediate cartel or non immediate you know, drug trafficking threat. 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: Here is Secretary of Defense Hegseth speaking exactly about this 19 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: or inspecific about this situation. 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: Plate twenty one Legal Authority to depending on in both 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: to strike. 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: That both full of drug smugglers. 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: We have the absolute and complete authority to conduct that. 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: First of all, just the defense of the American people alone. 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: One hundred thousand Americans were killed each year under the 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: previous administration because of an open border, an open drug 27 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: traffic flow. That is an assault on the American people. 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: I said, we smoked the drug boat, and there's eleven 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: narco terrace at the bottom of the ocean, and when 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: other people try to do that, they're going to meet 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: the same faith. 32 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: What do you make of the clay? 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 5: I think the question is how do we solve the 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 5: issue of fentnyl coming across our southern border in particular, 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 5: but also increasingly northern border. It's getting into the country. 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 5: The drug war has failed. I think most of you 37 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 5: out there recognize the drug war has failed. When I 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 5: was younger, and I think you were in this camp bug, 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: my inclination was just to say we should legalize more drugs, 40 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 5: we should spend less money fighting against it. But these 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 5: drugs are so strong and so many relatively young people 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: otherwise of good health are dying from them that I 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 5: don't think we can allow it into our country one 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 5: hundred thousand people a year, again overwhelmingly in their teens, twenties, thirties, forties, 45 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 5: People with decades of healthy life to go are dying 46 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 5: from these drugs. So what do we have to change? 47 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 5: We need a game changing element to truly alter things, 48 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: because what we're doing right now, frankly, isn't working. 49 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: Now. 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 5: Securing the southern border is a huge part of this. 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 5: We have now done that, it appears there still is 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 5: a lot of fentanyl coming into the country. And I 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 5: talked about reading a big story from the New York 54 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 5: Times about how incredibly sophisticated the cartels have become when 55 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 5: it comes to getting illegal drugs. I mean they have submarines, they've. 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: Had submarines for a long time to clay. They're using drones, 57 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: and they've been using drones at the border for surveillance 58 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: of our border patrol and even sometimes to do drops. Yeah, 59 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: and part of the problem. And you know, I used 60 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: to going back a long time ago, I used to 61 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: occasionally spend some time with the NYPD CO located with DEA. 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: And obviously, when you're sitting with DEA, guys, what are 63 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: you talk to them about drug cartel stuff, right. Yeah, 64 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: they were there just in case we needed them as 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: a liaison during the counter terrorism work. But the things 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: that we would talk about, the sophistication of the cartels 67 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: was was extremely high. And one of the problems you 68 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: have is even as seizures go up, so as you 69 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: get more of the illegal drugs, it's a supply and 70 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: demand curve, so price street price can go up. So 71 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: you have to, you know, to keep in mind that 72 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: if you were to if we were to get one 73 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: and or if we were to get rather three out 74 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: of four drug loads and take them out of circulation, 75 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: it's still probably be very profitable for the cartels to 76 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: do what they're doing. That's the problem is that is 77 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: that you have this very steep economic analysis. I mean 78 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: you you brought this up in the context of if 79 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: somebody thinks that they can feed their family for a year, 80 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: are they going to Are there going to be people 81 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: willing to risk twenty years in prison to bring a 82 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: few kilos of cocaine into this country on a fast 83 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: boat or you know, fentanyl, whatever it may be. 84 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: The answer is yes. 85 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: And for the cartels, even if there are seizures of 86 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: cartel product, they can still make a whole lot of 87 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: money if we were to double the level of seizures. 88 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: So this is the challenge in trying to stop this stuff. 89 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: It's there's a lot of money to be made in 90 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: this black market for drugs, which obviously is killing a 91 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: lot of Americans. 92 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 5: Well, I think the question I have and I don't 93 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 5: know the answer, but I think it's a worthy one 94 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 5: to contemplate and debate. Does blowing up a speedboat that 95 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 5: is filled with illegal drugs that reports are refused multiple 96 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 5: commands to stop, by the way, so this was not 97 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 5: completely without some sort of provocation. 98 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: Can I add add to this, Clay. I think it's 99 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: important we have this discussion because Reuters was reporting there 100 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: have been there's been a deployment of ten fighter jets 101 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico to fight against drug cartels. Now that 102 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: hasn't been confirmed I think by the administration yet, but 103 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: that's what the report that I saw on Reuter's is. 104 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: So the four they're now moving and for deploying more 105 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: assets that would be capable of doing these kind of strikes. 106 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: So to your point, we better really be clear on 107 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: is this something we have a constitutional The president has 108 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: a constitutional and legal authority. I mean those are one 109 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: of the same, but legal authority to do uh. And 110 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: what will the effects beyond on the war on drugs? 111 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I will say this, people say the war on drugs 112 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: is filled. This does change the calculation. I think you 113 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: pointed this. 114 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: This is my point. 115 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: Yes, this is a different it's a different thing to 116 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: face getting blown up with a hell fire or missile 117 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. My wife is pointing out also 118 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: that we have, according to her, and she's kind of 119 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: an expert on this from her law training, she says, 120 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: this is the first time that we have officially designated 121 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: terrorist organizations that are dealing drugs as terror organization, which 122 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: changes the rules of engagement. Now I'm quoting her, well, 123 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: she's she's correct. And this is when we remember. I 124 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: think we talked to very high level intel sources in 125 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: this administration. Clay was there for most of it. Unfortunately, 126 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: when he showed up in flip flops of the White 127 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: House had to turn him away. But I just want 128 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: to get this legend started at Clay was just like, yo, dude, 129 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm here for the I'm here for the high level intel. 130 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 5: I still don't have a real ID and they would 131 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 5: not allow me in to meet with the directors of Intelligence. 132 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to the White House probably like 133 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: in the next few months. Can you please get a 134 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: real ID? 135 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 5: Sir? 136 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: All right, I don't have to tell everybody. I'm gonna 137 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: have to tattle tail on you to everybody again, get 138 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: a real ID, Clay. 139 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 5: It's complicated. You have to make these appointments. I'm on 140 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 5: the air for four hours every day. It's not that 141 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 5: easy to just in the middle part of the day 142 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 5: go get a real ID. I have a passport. But 143 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: my thing here, in addition to all of this is 144 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 5: does it change the calculus? Every drug dealer and drug 145 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 5: smuggler in America is going to see that video, and 146 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 5: I think, I don't think it's irrational. Most people analyze 147 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 5: risk reward in everything that we do all day long, 148 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 5: and one risk, clearly of being a drug ug mule 149 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 5: is you get caught and you go to prison and 150 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 5: you potentially have to serve time. 151 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: To ask you an honest question. And I don't because 152 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: I can't put myself in the in the mindset of 153 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: of one of these drug mules or cartel employees, whatever 154 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them. Does spending twenty five 155 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: years in a US federal prison seem worse to them 156 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: than maybe just getting blown up and getting it all 157 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: done once. I'm being you know, I don't know that 158 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: that could go either way. I think for some people, yeah, 159 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a valid question. I think life risk 160 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: is different. So I don't know. 161 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 5: First of all, none of them unless you're a drug 162 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 5: mule listening right now and you want to call in 163 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 5: and tell us the drug mule thought process. As a 164 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 5: rational person, my analysis of people who are drug smugglers 165 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 5: is they see it as a way to make relatively 166 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 5: short period of time, life changing money for both them 167 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 5: and their family. And if you are required to risk 168 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 5: time in prison in you at least know that at 169 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 5: some point in time you can return to your family. 170 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 5: I bet the cartels I don't know this, but I 171 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 5: bet the cartels give good payouts even if you get arrested. 172 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 5: I bet they go back and take care of your family. 173 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: To try to encourage people to continue to take care 174 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 5: of this risk. This is my depends on what I think. 175 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 5: If you're a mule, maybe not. 176 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: But if you're somebody, if you're like a sacario, you know, 177 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: as somebody that's done really nasty stuff off hotels. They 178 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: may do some of that, But Clay, I also think 179 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: that this is what I was going to say about 180 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: the Intel meetings and just the discussions that were going 181 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: on in the White House. We have an incredibly and 182 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: I saw this up firsthand, we have an incredibly sophisticated 183 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: counter terrorism and by that I just to get more specific, 184 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: Our ability to track, surveil, and blow up al Qaeda 185 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: style jihattis all over the world is pretty pretty incredible. 186 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: It has gotten to a point where the ability hit 187 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: HBTs in Yemen and Somalia, in Pakistani tribal areas, and 188 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: you name it is and there's a whole chain of 189 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: events that lead up to it, right, I mean, you know, 190 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: finding these people, surveiling these people, the target set, having 191 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: the whether it's drones or whatever it is, we're sending 192 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: it after them. It looks like this administration is gearing 193 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: up to use that very sophisticated counter terrorism infrastructure and 194 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: strike capability against the cartels who are now designated as 195 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: narco terrorists, as your wife rightly points out, and that 196 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: is a whole new level of something for the cartels 197 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: to be considering. I think getting blown up changes the calculus. 198 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: That's my ultimate analysis of the narco terror community. Because 199 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: right now, your worst case scenario is taking drugs. I 200 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: guess your worst case scenario is the cartel could become 201 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: angry at you and decide to kill you, which is 202 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: why you do your job. But I don't think you're 203 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: anticipating that your boat may get blown And so every 204 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: narco terrorist in America is going to be seeing that video, 205 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: and I think it's going to set off alarm belt. 206 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: Here's the biggest problem though. The reason why the drug 207 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: trade exists is because there's lots of money to be 208 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: made from the drug trade, and ultimately people respond to 209 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: incentives when it comes to making money. To me, the 210 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: biggest challenge here is we haven't driven up the cost 211 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: of bringing drugs in to the point where it exceeds 212 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: the profit opportunity from the drug dealer, and that is 213 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: ultimately why they're engaging in rational economic decision making, even 214 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: if we disagree with the choices that they're making. I 215 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: would also point out that in discussions that I had 216 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: with members of Border Patrol in years past, and particularly 217 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: under the Biden Free for All Open Border years, Clay 218 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: the cartels at one point or at a certain phase 219 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: of this when the border was just wide open with 220 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: the ten million coming in, we're making more, they estimated 221 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: on human smuggling than on drug smuggling. So that means 222 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: billions of dollars billions and billions of dollars on effectively 223 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: controlling their side of the border. The the platza, right, 224 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: they break these up into territories and you have to pay, 225 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: and that's where the wristbands that I've seen the cartel 226 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: wristbands and giant piles on the ground, because if you 227 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: don't have that wristband, I mean, they'll pull you aside 228 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: and execute you, right, I mean, you know, they'll do 229 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: terrible things to you. So you've got to have that 230 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: wristband the show that you paid. But Trump is shut 231 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: down that income stream. They're not coming into the country 232 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: anymore that way, which means that now they have a 233 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: greater desperation on getting money via the drug trafficking, which 234 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: is made substantially harder as well because the resources that 235 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: we're going to the humanitarian mission at the border, i e. 236 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: Taking in illegals, making sure they're not you know, dying 237 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: of some disease or something like that. Now that's all 238 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: focused on the so they have a higher need to 239 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: make money off the drug trade, and we have a 240 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: greater focus and resource on the drug trade. 241 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: So you know, this is a very different. 242 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Situation than it was even eighteen months ago in terms 243 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: of what the cartels are facing and if we ramp 244 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: up the strikes, the attacks and the pressure on them, 245 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: this this isn't this is a new phase. That's all like, 246 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: this is a we have not seen something like this 247 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: in a long time. 248 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: Let me also, I'm gonna say this, every time we 249 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 5: have a discussion about drugs, you need to talk to 250 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: your kids and grandkids. They are often dying without even 251 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 5: understanding the drug that they're taking, so they can think 252 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 5: that they're taking a party drug. They can think, especially 253 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 5: go off to college, you're often you're in your twenties 254 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 5: in a college town, you're in a big city, and 255 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 5: you're off on your own. There are so many kids 256 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 5: that are dying of poisoning. They're not really dying of 257 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 5: overdosing because they're not they're not taking what they thought 258 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: they were taking. And you need to impress upon your 259 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 5: kids that the intermixing between these highly dangerous deadly drugs 260 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 5: and the ones they think are party drugs, which are 261 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 5: they're gonna be fine from and they're just gonna have 262 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 5: a great time. It's ecstasy ish, or it's cocaine, or 263 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 5: it's something that they're not afraid of dying from taking. 264 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 5: They need to understand that there is a huge risk. 265 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 5: And I but this is a sign of how crazy 266 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: it is. People who are huge party drug people are 267 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: now using strips to check and see before they take 268 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: their party drugs, whether it's ventanyl or not. I don't 269 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: think there's a ton of college kids doing this. I 270 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 5: don't think that that's a die hard party drug person 271 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: who's doing that testing. But there are people basically dying 272 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 5: of poisoning, tens of thousands of them every single year. 273 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 5: Your kids need to know about this. 274 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: We'll take your calls here coming up in a moment, 275 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: also again on some of your talkbacks, and we've got 276 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Denesh Desuza will be with us talking about his new movie, 277 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: which I think you're gonna want to hear about or sure. 278 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: We like to cover the cultural angle of things here too, 279 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: And you know, we got we've got amazing job Clay 280 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and I doing this radio show every day. 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Denesh, I believe 364 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: today it's seven hundred days of war between Israel and Gaza. 365 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: This ties into your film tell us about the Dragon's prophecy. 366 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: Well, the film is based on the idea that October 367 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: seventh is not an ordinary attack. It's a kind of 368 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: a biblical event, in other words, just an event of 369 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: epical significance. And I think what the film does is 370 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: it tries to raise the level of the current debate. 371 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 6: Which is a little bit stuck. 372 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: You know, on the left you keep hearing colonialism, colonialism, genocide. 373 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: Of course, on the right you have a different type 374 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: of critique that is made of Israel. 375 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 6: This film, what it does is it exposes. 376 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: The conflict in the light of ancient biblical battles between 377 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: the Israelites and the Philistines. Now, very interestingly, the word 378 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: Philistine and Palestinian are connected, they're in fact the same name. 379 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 6: And one of the things we expose in the film 380 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 6: is the way in which the tactics of. 381 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: The Palestinians resemble the battles. 382 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 6: Of the ancient Philistine. 383 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: So it's a very creepy idea that the past is 384 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: now back to haunt us in a new way. But 385 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: we're throwing a kind of new light on these events. 386 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: Looking at it somewhat through the lens of the Bible. 387 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 5: I was over there to Nash and I know some 388 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 5: people have had the opportunity to go visit the Kibbutz's 389 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 5: the Nova Music Festival location. I mean, it's really unbelievable, 390 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 5: I think to see in person and crystallizes what exactly happened. 391 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 5: I imagine you have some of that footage. I imagine that 392 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 5: you also have traveled to Israel. What did you find 393 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 5: when you have been to Israel itself? As part of 394 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 5: telling this story. 395 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: First of all, we have October seventh footage that people 396 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 2: have literally never seen. The opening scene of the film 397 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: is so shocking that we have actually had some people 398 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: who get a bit squeamish about it. So there's a 399 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: little bit of a graphic violence warning. Because the weird 400 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: thing is after October seventh, the Israeli government made the 401 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: decision not to sort of release footage, even though some 402 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: of it had been live stream by Hamas. The Israeli 403 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: government said, basically, we're going to bring in small groups 404 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 2: of journalists, hoping that they're going to be fair and 405 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: well meaning. 406 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 6: We'll show them. 407 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: The footage so that they can then their eyes will 408 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: be open not realizing that these journalists from the BBC, 409 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: from AP, from Sky News, very left wing where had 410 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: no interest in taking a look at any of this 411 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: footage or seeing it significance at all. So we begin 412 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: the film basically by putting you right there. 413 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 6: In October seventh. 414 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: Then we take you to the kibbutz's and we interview 415 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: survivors full of them. But again the stories are so 416 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: haunting their first person, they are people who saw it 417 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: with their own eyes, because I think you can't discuss 418 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: the war now without reference to a the events of 419 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: October seventh, then second, understanding the significance of those events. 420 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 5: What do you think, Yeah, sorry, speaking to the Nesch 421 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 5: the Suz, I was going to build on that. You 422 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 5: mentioned the response on the right, where some people are 423 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: angry at Israel's response to Hamas. I don't think it 424 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 5: surprises people necessarily that the left in many ways has 425 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 5: taken the side of the Palestinians because they see them 426 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 5: as brown, they see them as the colonized, they see 427 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 5: Israel as the colonizer. It is a bastardized version of 428 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 5: history that they're applying. But what do you think about 429 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 5: the anti Israel element of the right that now exists 430 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 5: as well. What would you tell that those individuals. 431 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I would tell them I can 432 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: kind of understand where they're coming from. Where they're coming 433 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: from is that, you know, the United States has gotten 434 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: involved in a lot of foreign entanglements and it's generally 435 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: worked out pretty badly, at least in the last quarter 436 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: century Iraq. 437 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 6: Of course, a lot of these same conservatives are against the. 438 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: Ukraine War, so they're basically saying, well, why should we 439 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: be for Israel? And you know, an indifference to what's 440 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: happening in Ukraine, either we're in or out. The second 441 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: thing that they have is this concern that somehow the 442 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: Israeli tail is wagging the American dog. Now again, on 443 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: the face of it, this is a little absurd, right. 444 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 2: You have a country of what ten or twelve million people, 445 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: It's got a gross national product a tiny fraction of 446 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: the US. It's the size of New Jersey. It doesn't 447 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 2: have anything like the weaponry we do. So how this 448 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 2: little mosquito can somehow control the elephant is itself like baffling, right, 449 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. When I debated this with 450 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: Nick fluent Is a few months ago, I told him, 451 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: if the Jews can truly control America, maybe they are 452 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: the master race. You know, I was being sartastic, But 453 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: the point being that that the shoe that was raised 454 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: I think legitimately by Tucker Carlson in his discussion with 455 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz is he said, are the Jews of today, 456 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: like Netanyahu's Jews, the true. 457 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 6: Descendants of the ancient. 458 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: Israelite This is a topic that is completely settled in 459 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: the movie, and we do it essentially through biblical archaeology, 460 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: so we kind of take you into the archaeological digs. 461 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 6: Part of it is, if I'm giving a. 462 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: Biblical analysis of what's going on, I want to consider 463 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 2: the skeptical question, how do we know the Bible is 464 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: even true? How do we know that the historical events 465 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: described in the Bible are even valid? 466 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 6: Was there really a King David? Was there really an 467 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 6: Isaiah and a Jeremiah? And this is. 468 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 2: An element that is shown in the movie, and it's 469 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: a very fascinating part of the puzzle. 470 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: Big Tonette Susa and we're talking to him about his 471 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: movie that's come out, and Denesh, why is it that 472 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: the way this issue lines up is right after the 473 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: October seventh events, And I mean right after, within certainly 474 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: a few days, if not ours, you had people whom 475 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: you would expect on the left and in the Democrat 476 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: Party saying we need to cease fire, which to me 477 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: and Clay and I said this repeatedly on the show. 478 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 4: Right away. 479 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: This would have been like saying, right after the towers 480 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: had come down because of the mass casualty terror attack 481 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: on nine to eleven in this country, we need to 482 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: cease fire with al Qaeda, Like now's the time to 483 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: really just hold back and have it. It seemed crazy 484 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: and in most the most obvious bad faith. Where does 485 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: the left get this? Like why is the left dug 486 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: in on the side of Hamas and against Israel and 487 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: the Jewish people in this country? 488 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: The left in a way accepts the premise of the 489 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: radical Muslims that Israel is the little Satan and. 490 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 6: America is the great Satan. 491 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: So when they start from that premise, that's says starting 492 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: out premise they consider Israel to be an illegitimate occupier 493 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: of that land. I think how crazy this is? Right, 494 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: the Jews have been there for four thousand years since 495 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: the days of Abraham. Sure they went into a diaspora, 496 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: but not of their own choosing. If the Jews had 497 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: packed up and left, I'd understand people would say, well, 498 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: you chose to leave, but they were pushed out, kicked out, 499 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 2: burned out, so they fled and then they returned to 500 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: their native homeland. 501 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 6: So I think that. I think that. 502 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: And then if you look at the example of America, 503 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: you gave the example of nine to eleven, but you 504 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: could look at Pearl Harbor, you could look at Germany. 505 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: Imagine if we were to say, after Pearl Harbor, listen, 506 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 2: there were only a few thousand Americans killed in Pearl Harbor. 507 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: Why did the United States have to go to Japan 508 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: and draw up atomic bombs? And with contemplating an invasion 509 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: of Japan, how can you justify so many more Japanese 510 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: civilian casualties compared to the relatively low number of civilian casualties. 511 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: All of this is just like nonsense because basically Japan 512 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 2: started it an unprovoked attack. 513 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 6: You know, It's almost like. 514 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: If you or I have a home invasion and the 515 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: guy comes in and he murders your wife, he rapes 516 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: your daughter, he kills your kids, he runs away. You 517 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: chase him, you grab your gun and chase him. He 518 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 2: gets into his car, but then he comes up with 519 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: his own wife and kids, sticks them in front of him, 520 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: and he basically goes, you can't shoot because you're going 521 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: to have civilian casualties. And you have to say to 522 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: that guy, well, listen, you are the one putting your 523 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 2: wife and family in danger. I'm not aiming at your wife. 524 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm aiming at you, and deservedly so. And so you're 525 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: using your. 526 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 6: Own family as a human shield. 527 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: So I think that in a way captures for me 528 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: the kind of moral analysis to apply here. And that's 529 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: why I find the kind of right wing critique of 530 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 2: Israel in some ways very baffling, although I try very 531 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: fair mindedly to engage it in the film. 532 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 5: What is the end result here? I mean, Hamas still 533 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 5: has seven hundred days coming up on the two year anniversary. 534 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 5: Hamas still has over twenty or twenty ish. I believe hostages, 535 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 5: including unfortunately likely dead bodies that they're holding on to. 536 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 5: Is there hope in your mind for peace in the 537 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 5: Middle East. Trump has now been in office for a while. 538 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 5: There's been lots of talk about ceasefires and what some 539 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 5: sort of resolution for this process. Looks like Israel's been 540 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 5: at war for nearly two years now. There's big fights 541 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 5: inside of Israel over whether the supremely religious Orthodox Jews 542 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 5: should be called up to fight because they have mobilized 543 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 5: so many troops, men and women to fight. How does 544 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 5: this end? What should be the conclusion? 545 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: Say that if the Bible is correct, this problem fundamentally 546 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: will not be solved, and by that I mean that 547 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: it will remain. 548 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 6: A festering sore. 549 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: And that's really odd, right, because the India Pakistan issue 550 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: flares up, but then it swimmers down. The Northern Ireland 551 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: conflict has gone away. But somehow, in all my adult lifetime, 552 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: you've had American presidents marching over there with one piece 553 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: plan after another, from Carter to Clinton. This stuff never 554 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: gets sort of permanently fixed. 555 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 6: Now, having been having said that, I think. 556 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: That Trump's idea, which is ultimately to fight this kind 557 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: of deep you can call it, you know, this jihadi enmity, 558 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: and replace it with sort of commercial prosperity. In other words, 559 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: replace it with washing machines and small apartments and everybody 560 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: gets their job. And the idea of maybe having an 561 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: administrative authority that's made up of the other Arab countries 562 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: in conjunction with the United States. So in other words, 563 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: you've got Egyptian from Saudi's and Jordanian's kind of watching 564 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: over Gaza. 565 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 6: This is a kind of ingenious idea. 566 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: To my knowledge, it's never been not only tried, it's 567 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: never been contemplated this week before. So I think Steve Witcoff, 568 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: the envoy, maybe onto something. And it's possible that we're 569 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: going to see progress, but I'll be going to see 570 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: an ultimate solution. 571 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 6: Uh, I don't think. 572 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 5: So, Denash. We appreciate the time. We encourage people to 573 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 5: go check out the movie, and we hope you have 574 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: a fantastic weekend. The film's website is The Dragons Prophecy 575 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: dot com uh, and it will also have limited theater. 576 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 6: The Dragons prophecyfilm dot com. 577 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: Ah. Sorry the drag. 578 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't read enough of the link here The 579 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 5: Dragons prophecyfilm dot Com. We appreciate the time, Thank you. 580 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 5: Trailer also, by the way, linked at clayanbuck dot com 581 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 5: if you are curious to see that for yourself. 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A little bit of a 611 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 5: short week for a lot of people because of Labor Day, 612 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 5: and a lot of you have been weighing in for 613 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 5: a variety of different topics and I want to hit 614 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 5: some of those. 615 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question, mister sportsman? Yes, right 616 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: after this, I'm actually gonna be watching a sporting event 617 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: with the masses, and it will be the tennis match 618 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: between Novak Djokovic and Carlos al Karaz Who does that 619 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: to win? 620 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 5: That's at three easterns right after the show. So is 621 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 5: this a I don't even know what round they're in? 622 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 5: Is this a final eight? Is this the quarterfinals? Is 623 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 5: this the semi finals? I know it's not the championship. 624 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 5: My word, he's just he's just he's just messing with 625 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: me right now. 626 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: There's no way you don't know anything about where the 627 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: US Open is right now America's premier tennis tournament, Clay. 628 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 4: It's football season. There's no Americans. Do you see that? 629 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 4: Do you see that? He just he just kicked a 630 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 4: football right in the face of. 631 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 5: I didn't realize I'm looking right now. So this thing 632 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 5: really does start in in like eight minutes. 633 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: So I'm telling you, I'm I'm going I'm going Alcaaz 634 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: for the win on this one. 635 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: But Djokovic, he's a He's a kg kat. That guy. 636 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: You never know what he's gonna pull off. He's he's 637 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: almost forty and he's still playing amazing tennis. So this 638 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: is the semi finals. Is the last four guys and 639 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: the last four gals are playing it out in the 640 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: semi four. Oh no, I think the Yeah, that's right, 641 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: last four girls as well. So all right, there we go. 642 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: We can get to the talk back. I just presume 643 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: that it was going to be Alcarez in center. I 644 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: knew that they're the two best and that they had 645 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: been dominating the. 646 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 4: Djokovic fans don't want to hear this blasphemy. I would 647 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 4: love to. 648 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 5: See Djokovic win, especially because we banned him from being 649 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: able to play in the US Open. 650 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: A vax mandate hero. All right, now you can get 651 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: to the talkbacks and the good stuff. Uh, we just 652 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 1: got a couple of them here, I think lined up well. 653 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: First of all, VIP email, Sondra says, I'm going to 654 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: complain about Buck. I'm not wanting to, but every time 655 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: I hear him talk about Harry Potter, it disturbs me. 656 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: I have a son just like him. 657 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 5: I understand the Chronicles of Narnia is an important part 658 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 5: of children's literature, but I can also tell you that 659 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 5: Harry Potter is just as important. Tell Buck to read them. 660 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 5: I read the Harry Potter books while I was in college, sorry, 661 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 5: law school, because I wanted to have something light to 662 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 5: read right before I was going to bed. So I 663 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 5: powered through all of these back in the day before 664 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 5: I had kids of my own. I know a lot 665 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 5: of you have watched the movies, but I'm telling you, yes, 666 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 5: in an ideal world, your kids would read the Chronicles 667 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 5: of Narnia, and they would also read the Hobbit series, 668 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 5: The Lord of the Rings, and they would read Harry Potter. 669 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 5: They would read everything. But if you need to get 670 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 5: them started in something, I think Harry Potter is a 671 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 5: pretty good way to get them engaged seven books, so 672 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: they grow with the books. Even Tom Clancy start them 673 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 5: out with the Hunt for Reddi. Come on, I mean 674 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 5: you and I were nerds, so we read those back 675 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 5: in the day. But but yeah, the average kid is 676 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 5: going to be all in on Harry Potter. 677 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 4: People asked you. 678 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: A lot like how I thought to join the CIA, 679 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: and yeah after nine to eleven, But why why did 680 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: my brain go to the CIA and not to the military, 681 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: like obviously at a lot of people did. Right away 682 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 1: Tom Clancy books. Straight off, I was like, Jack Ryan, 683 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 1: I could do what that guy did. That is how 684 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: I had no family ties, no nothing to any of that. 685 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: But I was like, yeah, that Jack Ryan guy. The 686 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: Tom Clancy books. 687 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 4: We need to get. 688 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 5: The Rutherford from our podcast now, Yes, next week, because 689 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 5: there's a big story out about Seal Team six North 690 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 5: Korea that The New York Times has published. I haven't 691 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 5: had the time to read the full totality of it, 692 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 5: but I do want to get his reaction to this 693 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 5: story at some point next week because I think it's 694 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 5: going to carry into the next week. 695 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 4: And we hope all of you. 696 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 5: Have fantastic weekends watching football. Kicking back with your family. 697 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: What's your best football pick right now for the for 698 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: the weekend. Who's gonna win the most important game? Oklahoma 699 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: is gonna blow Michigan out on Saturday. 700 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 4: Book it