1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Brainstuff production of I Heart Radio, Hey brain 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Stuff Lauren Vogelbaum here. The Turning test is legendary in 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: the field of artificial intelligence. First proposed by the visionary 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: British mathematician Alan Turning in a landmark nineteen fifty paper. 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: The test provides a practical and pretty fun way to 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: determine if a computer has achieved human levels of intelligence. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Turing called it the imitation game. If a computer, through 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: a text only chat, can convince a human that it's 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: a real person, then it passes the test. Simple in 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: theory but nearly impossible in practice. Turning came up with 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: the imitation game in response to colleagues and critics in 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: the late nineteen forties who insisted that a machine could 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: never be truly intelligent. But Turning had more faith in 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: these primitive new machines he called digital computers. That's because 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Turing was the very first to envision something that we 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: take for granted today, a single machine that can be 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: programmed to do almost anything. Odds are yours sing to 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: this podcast on just such a machine? In brief, Alan 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Turing was a British mathematician who came up with the 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: idea of modern computing, and whose code breaking played a 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: major role in the Allied victory over the Nazis in 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: World War Two. Also, he was a world class cross 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: country runner who may have qualified for the nineteen forty 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Olympics if not for an injury. But his life was 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: also tragic due to prejudices of the time. He was 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: prosecuted in nineteen fifty two for having an affair with 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: another man home sexual acts being illegal in Britain until 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, and he accepted a form of chemical 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: castration as a condition of probation in order to avoid 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: jail time. His security clearance was revoked, ending his work 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: for the British government. He was found dead of cyanid 32 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: poisoning in nineteen fifty four, though it's still unclear whether 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: his death was a suicide or an accident. He was 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: pardoned of his conviction by Queen Elizabeth. The second Turing 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: was writing about computers well before any such thing existed. 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Back in nineteen thirty six, he introduced the concept of 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: the univer soul computing machine and a dense mathematical paper 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: called on Computable Numbers with an application to the chitons problem. 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: This was a decade before the first electronic computer would 40 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: be built. Turning wrote, according to my definition, a number 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: is computable if its decimal can be written down by 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: a machine. It is possible to invent a single machine 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: which can be used to compute any computable sequence. Turing's 44 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: definition of computability of something that a computer can do 45 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: is what's known today as an algorithm. Turning was the 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: first to lay out the design framework of a machine 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: that could be programmed to run a series of discrete 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: algorithms in order to achieve a desired task. Other mathematicians 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: and engineers had toyed with calculating machines, most famously Charles 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: Babbage's nineteenth century analytical engine, but Turing envisioned a device 51 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: that wasn't limited to solving one kind of problem. We 52 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: spoke with Andrew Hodges, a mathematics professor at Oxford University 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: an author of Alan Turing The Enigma, the inspiration for 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: the Oscar winning film The Imitation Game. Hodges explained, anything 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: you can describe as an algorithm can be done by 56 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: one machine. The universal machine is essentially what we mean 57 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: by a computer, now, something on which you can store 58 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: the instructions and it carries them out, and no one 59 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: else had formalized that idea. From the start, Turns universal 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: machine was conceived as a very simplified form of artificial intelligence, 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: even though that term wouldn't be coined until ninety six. 62 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Hodges says that the design of the universal machine was 63 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: meant to imitate the inner workings of the human mind, 64 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: a subject that fascinated Turing almost as much as mathematics. 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: In fact, when describing how his universal machine would work, 66 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Turn used the term state of mind to label the 67 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: different read and write functions of the machine. In Turn's 68 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: conceptual machine, a length of tape is run through a 69 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: read write scanner. The tape is inscribed with bits of 70 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: information represented by symbols. The scanner head can either read 71 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: the symbols or write new ones according to its state 72 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: of mind. Turning wrote in his nineteen thirty six paper, 73 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: the operation actually performed is determined by the state of 74 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: mind of the computer and the observed symbols. In particular, 75 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: they determine the state of mind of the computer after 76 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: the operation is carried out. A decade later, when Turing 77 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: was leading the stalled British effort to build one of 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: the first electronic computers in nineteen forty six. He also 79 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: studied neurology and human physiology on the side. The result 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: was an internal paper published for the National Physical Laboratory 81 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: that modeled how a computer could be programmed to learn 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: on its own. Hod Just sees it as one of 83 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: the earliest proposals of what are now called neural networks, 84 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: a type of deep machine learning that's at the bleeding 85 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: edge of artificial intelligence. Turing wasn't the only person intrigued 86 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: by the similarities between human and machine intelligence. A surge 87 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: of new technologies developed during World War Two, including early computers, 88 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: space satellites, and nuclear power, had captured the intellectual and 89 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: public imagination. Hodges said, as soon as computer as are 90 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: mentioned at all, people are talking about electronic brains and 91 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: the possibility of the computer rivaling the brain. The nineteen 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: forty eight books Cybernetics by Norbert Wiener coined the prefix 93 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: cyber and wondered whether it would be possible to quote 94 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: construct a chess playing machine and whether this sort of 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: ability represents an essential difference between the potentialities of the 96 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: machine and the mind. Wiener concluded that such a machine 97 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: might very well be as good a player as the 98 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: vast majority of the human race. It was during this 99 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: era of excitement and nervous speculation about superintelligent machines the 100 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: Turning wrote Computing, Machinery and Intelligence, what Hodges calls one 101 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: of the most cited papers in philosophical literature. Turning begins, 102 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: I propose to consider the question can machines think? Then, 103 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: since the definitions of machine and think are ambiguous, Turning 104 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: narrows the scope of the question for his purposes. The 105 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: machine must be a digital computer, and the test of 106 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: whether or not it can think would be answered by 107 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: the imitation game. The game game, now known as the 108 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: Turning Test, is only mentioned briefly in the paper, and 109 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: Hodges says that Turing didn't take the details of the 110 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: test too seriously, publishing different versions in other papers. But 111 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: Turning did like the playful simplicity of it. Hodges said, 112 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: in a way he was making a drama out of it. 113 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: It presented this idea of the possibility of advanced artificial 114 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: intelligence in a way that engages people, and that ordinary 115 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: people would make the decision like a jury in a trial. 116 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: When the Turing Test was first published in nineteen fifty 117 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: Turning himself was confident that intelligent machinery, as he called it, 118 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: would be able to win the Invitation Game within fifty 119 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: to a hundred years. So will his predictions come true? 120 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: We already have super intelligent computers capable of outwitting the 121 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: smartest players in other types of games. IBM's Deep Blue 122 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: defeated the reigning chess champion Gary Kasparov, and Watson beat 123 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: the record breaking Jeopardy champion Ken Jennings in two thousand eleven. 124 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: But the Imitation Game raises the bar high on artificial intelligence, 125 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: and no computer has come close to convincing an ordinary 126 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: human that is one of us, at least not yet. 127 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: An annual contest called the Loebner Prize conducts its own 128 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: turing tests on the top chat bots to see if 129 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: the latest AI software could convince a panel of judges 130 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: that it's just as human as its human creators. None 131 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: of the chat bots have succeeded. The best performer, a 132 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: conversational chatbot called Mistaku, has only achieved a rating of 133 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: thirty three human, but when our writer Dave went online 134 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: to chat with her, he was impressed by her natural 135 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: language responses and deep knowledge, albeit probably too deep for 136 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: a typical dope human, he said. And when he asked 137 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: her if a chat bot will ever pass the Turing test, 138 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: she had the perfect answer, you be the judge of that. 139 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Today's episode written by Dave Ruse and produced by Tyler Clang. 140 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Brain Stuff is a production of I Heart Radios How 141 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: Stuff Works. For more in this and lots of other 142 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: intelligent topics, visit our home planet, how stuff Works dot com. 143 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: And for more podcasts for My heart Radio, including one 144 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: from Ken Jennings called Omnibus, visit that I Heart Radio app, 145 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: app podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 146 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: H