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Speaker 3: Sunday at at and T stadiums. The Ravens are dealing
Speaker 3: with their fans. There's in panic mode. Oh and two
Speaker 3: stat saying hey, you're not about to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: This is a critical game for them, the Cowboys. In
Speaker 3: my opinion, the challenge is going to be how do
Speaker 3: you meet that? So Dak Prescott's gonna talk now, so
Speaker 3: we'll hear from him a little bit later on most
Speaker 3: likely the three o'clock hour media mash exactly what he
Speaker 3: has to say, so you can be very interested on that.
Speaker 3: Had a good conversation all the media master Clarence Hill,
Speaker 3: and I want to bring to you guys here on
Speaker 3: the players I'll start with you, HECMA.
Speaker 4: We were talking about the quarterback Dak Prescott.
Speaker 9: Lamar.
Speaker 3: Lamar won the MVP last year, Dak was second. Both
Speaker 3: of them basically got the same playoff record, losing playoff record.
Speaker 4: Which quarterback? All right, you're you're you're an executive out here.
Speaker 3: You got a quarterback and here the two Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, who he.
Speaker 4: Take well and and Clarence said he was taking that.
Speaker 3: And basically when he broke it down to Crispy think
Speaker 3: sure you quote me as I'm right, because Chris was
Speaker 3: there yesterday for the conversation.
Speaker 4: Clarence said, Dak does more for you as a quarterback.
Speaker 3: And I said, so you want the guy who's more
Speaker 3: quarterback in versus the guy who's won the MVP. And
Speaker 3: he laughed and he's like yeah. So that was kind
Speaker 3: of that's where Clarence went. And then he sent me
Speaker 3: a thing on statistics and I'll get you guys the
Speaker 3: stats after you just kind of give me your opinion about.
Speaker 2: You know, look, I think that when you talk about one,
Speaker 2: when you look at Lamar Jackson, he is probably one
Speaker 2: of the best athletes to ever grace the NFL I
Speaker 2: mean he was. He was him at Hello in front
Speaker 2: of Timothy. He has been that, yeah, his whole life.
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, I'm sure. And biddy ball, little lead flag football.
Speaker 2: He was always godly. You know who, what's his name,
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. We're gonna see you play on Sunday, you know.
Speaker 2: And he was. He's always been that athlete. And I
Speaker 2: think him as an athlete. You worry so much about
Speaker 2: him running the ball. You worry about his elusiveness, you
Speaker 2: worry about what we were talking about yesterday, extending plays
Speaker 2: with his legs. What you don't worry about is his arm.
Speaker 2: And his arm has been the thing that I think
Speaker 2: has prevented him, like many other very athletic quarterbacks, from
Speaker 2: getting to that next level. I'm just looking up further
Speaker 2: than a guy like Michael Vick, you know that just
Speaker 2: had all of the intangibles. But you know, look, if
Speaker 2: you can't throw the ball accurately more than twenty yards,
Speaker 2: then that's gonna cause a lot of problems for you
Speaker 2: as a quarterback in the NFL. And that's the reason
Speaker 2: why I'm taking that. Because I can draft receivers and
Speaker 2: they can be productive and they can I can have
Speaker 2: thousand yard receivers and be able to move my offense
Speaker 2: forward and not be just so reliant on one guy.
Speaker 2: Because as you look at the Ravens right now, as
Speaker 2: Lamar goes, the whole organization goes and so and I'm
Speaker 2: talking about him running. So that's why I take that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, when you look at it, and I could
Speaker 6: just go by from when you know, I started watching
Speaker 6: football in the early nineties, I can just say I
Speaker 6: haven't seen a quarterback with this majority of a mobile quarterback.
Speaker 6: And there's guys out there, you know, the Russell Wilson's
Speaker 6: of the world that you know they can run as well,
Speaker 6: but they're predominantly passing quarterbacks.
Speaker 7: I haven't seen that guy that's.
Speaker 6: A super athletic does it as much as with his
Speaker 6: legs as he does his arm, probably even more with
Speaker 6: his legs in his arm.
Speaker 7: I haven't seen that guy reach the pinnacle.
Speaker 6: You know, I could be wrong, you know, it could
Speaker 6: have happened back in the day, but I haven't seen
Speaker 6: a guy like that reached the pinnacle and take his
Speaker 6: team to that next level. When you talk about the
Speaker 6: Super Bowl and if all things are even, you know,
Speaker 6: they have the same offense, same defense, whatever the case
Speaker 6: may be, give me the guy that you know can
Speaker 6: perform from the pocket. You know, Dak is athletic in
Speaker 6: his own right. He's no Lamar Jackson, but he can
Speaker 6: still pick up some things with his legs out there.
Speaker 6: But to me, give me the guy that you can
Speaker 6: you know is a better quarterback from the pocket. I mean,
Speaker 6: as a defender, it's a nightmare going against a guy
Speaker 6: like Lamar Jackson. You know, he can run all over
Speaker 6: the place and this, that and the third. But if
Speaker 6: you have that defensive line, which playoff teams usually do.
Speaker 6: They usually have that defensive line that can get after
Speaker 6: the quarterback and make things hard for him. It makes
Speaker 6: it hard for those type of quarterbacks to get to
Speaker 6: that next level because you can't do it with your
Speaker 6: legs alone. Now not saying that Lamar Jackson is not
Speaker 6: the greatest, greatest quarterback who can't do it with his arm,
Speaker 6: whatever the case may be. But if it's up to me,
Speaker 6: and I'm looking there and I say I gotta get
Speaker 6: my team to the next level, give me a quarterback
Speaker 6: that can do it from the pocket as well.
Speaker 7: I gotta go with Prescott on it.
Speaker 2: And as I'm listening to us say this. I'm reminded
Speaker 2: that Lamar Jackson is a two time MVP. Said, we
Speaker 2: just made that whole statement about the two time MVP
Speaker 2: one time. Yeah, you know what I mean. Then that's crazy, right,
Speaker 2: And so it is. I don't know, maybe we have
Speaker 2: a little bias. Somebody break this up.
Speaker 3: Man, Okay. So, and I just texted you guys as stats.
Speaker 3: So comes to games, DAK fifty two games, Lamar fifty
Speaker 3: seven games. Completion percentage DAK sixty eight point two and
Speaker 3: Lamar is sixty.
Speaker 4: Four point seven.
Speaker 3: So DAK edge there pass yards DAK is ahead fourteen thousand,
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty three Lamar twelve thousand and seventy nine.
Speaker 4: Pass yards average DAK.
Speaker 3: Seven point six, Lamar seven point five pass yards per game.
Speaker 3: DAK two hundred and seventy two, Lamar two hundred and
Speaker 3: eleven passing touchdowns DAK with one hundred and seven Lamar
Speaker 3: eighty five interceptions DAK forty, Lamar thirty seven. But go
Speaker 3: back once again, DAK one hundred and seven touchdown passes
Speaker 3: to forty picks, Lamar eighty five touchdowns versus thirty seven picks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those were ball less picked more.
Speaker 3: Quarterback rating one hundred point six for DAK for Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson ninety five point one rushing attempts DAK one hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty nine, Lamar five hundred and thirty seven.
Speaker 4: When it comes to.
Speaker 3: Rush yards DAK six hundred and seventy eight, he ainrych
Speaker 3: to stack Lamar Jackson three thousand, five hundred and twenty four.
Speaker 2: WHOA, that's the difference.
Speaker 3: Ringo rushing yards average DAK four, Lamar six point two
Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns DAK with seven, Lamar seventeen.
Speaker 4: Championships, zero Pro Bowls. They're even all pros right there.
Speaker 3: And then of course when it comes to MVPs, there's
Speaker 3: your difference because Lamar Jackson has two of them. And
Speaker 3: just based on what you said, you win two, you
Speaker 3: win one MVP in this league, it's pretty special you
Speaker 3: win two of them.
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 3: That that legitimizes you you as probably the best quarterback
Speaker 3: in your franchise's history. You know, in anybody, I mean
Speaker 3: anybody's if you're winning four, if you if you're winning
Speaker 3: two MVPs, you're most likely the best quarterback and ever
Speaker 3: your franchise is history. And when you think about the
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens quarterback history, it is Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to say nothing.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say that it ain't able to
Speaker 3: go back Joe Fla, Kyle Boler.
Speaker 2: It's Lamar Jackson. It is Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: So the stats are are very good, but it's to me,
Speaker 3: I think we're really obviously I'll give the edge to
Speaker 3: to Lamar Jackson won the MVP two times, but we're
Speaker 3: really looking at two guys that are right there in
Speaker 3: my pining at the same point in their career of Hey,
Speaker 3: people want to see you go to a championship level.
Speaker 4: That's where people are at now. You both have great contracts.
Speaker 3: Lamar ended up setting the record for quarterbacks which got
Speaker 3: broken and Dak broke it. Guys are looking at you
Speaker 3: just saying, hey, man, you need to go get this done.
Speaker 3: Both guys suffer from some of the same criticisms. Can't
Speaker 3: win in the playoffs like you need to. Both of
Speaker 3: them had awful playoff games last year ye compared to
Speaker 3: what people thought they were gonna do.
Speaker 4: That hurt them, and.
Speaker 3: Accuracy becomes the thing that people talk about with them,
Speaker 3: especially more so on Lamar but hey, can this guy
Speaker 3: beat me from the pocket when he needs to in
Speaker 3: the most important game. So I look at these players
Speaker 3: are kind of like the same, two dudes on the
Speaker 3: same projectory for a while.
Speaker 4: Now give it an NBA thing for a while.
Speaker 3: When I saw Dirk Vinsky and Kevin Garnett both were
Speaker 3: having success in the Western Conference in Minnesota for it
Speaker 3: for Kevin, Dallas for Dirk, but they weren't getting to
Speaker 3: the Championshi round.
Speaker 4: They were't getting there.
Speaker 3: Took them a while to get They both ended up
Speaker 3: doing it, winning championships, but they were kind of on
Speaker 3: that same projectory for both won MVPs.
Speaker 2: But that is a great comp And the reason I
Speaker 2: say that is because they were the measure probably the same,
Speaker 2: but two different, totally different players. Yeah, but when it
Speaker 2: comes when it comes to Dak and Lamar Jackson, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously those similarities that they have, but two completely totally
Speaker 2: different athletes and one obviously being a first round pick
Speaker 2: in Lamar Jackson. I think the pressure as we talk
Speaker 2: about the pressure on Dak playing for the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 2: it has been even more for Lamar Jackson with where
Speaker 2: he's been picked and the kind of player that he is.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a guy that he goes up in
Speaker 2: front of the media corn rolls he's Florida boy.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: So that's something that perception wise has looked at completely
Speaker 2: different in the NFL, because what you think of as
Speaker 2: a you know, program leading franchise, leading quarterback is a
Speaker 2: lot different than the picture you see with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: All right, and he is who he is. He's not
Speaker 2: trying to change that for nobody. And I applaud him
Speaker 2: as a player not listening to all the outside noise
Speaker 2: and trying to change who he is to appease those
Speaker 2: on the outside. He knows he is and he plays
Speaker 2: to whatever those strengths are. I think when you're even
Speaker 2: going back to the and I say that and going
Speaker 2: back to the AFC Championship, he changed a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, he wants a willing deal in that in
Speaker 2: that instance, the MVP may have gotten to his head
Speaker 2: at that point that you know, I want to show
Speaker 2: everybody I'll do this, I can do it, you know,
Speaker 2: And it's like, come on, baby, this is be who
Speaker 2: you are. And so that's the one thing about Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson at this stage of his career he's still his
Speaker 2: axe is still sharp. You know, there is no He's
Speaker 2: not fallen off by any means on the athletic side.
Speaker 2: So you know, I think this is gonna be a
Speaker 2: great match up between two quarterbacks. Like you said, they're
Speaker 2: both kind of in that same expectation range where people
Speaker 2: are like putting a lot on them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's definitely more pressure than on Lamar to
Speaker 6: winning this game. If we're talking about what's going on
Speaker 6: in week three, damn one hundred percent. I mean you
Speaker 6: just said it earlier in the broadcast. What's the percentage
Speaker 6: of teams that made it to the playoffs?
Speaker 7: Oho and three? It's like two point five.
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Speaker 3: We can go there because it is uh it. Both
Speaker 3: of them, in their own ways, are in the same
Speaker 3: pot right now. The water was hot, boiler is hot,
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Speaker 4: Voice here on working things streaks. Okay, the pressure, y'all.
Speaker 2: Tell the truth? Now, tell the truth.
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 2: Who is the pressure on? Well, y'all knows. I want
Speaker 2: to come on, kick it. Who is the pressure on
Speaker 2: to win this game? In particular Cowboys would be one
Speaker 2: and two and obviously Baltimore, oh and three.
Speaker 4: You know what both? It is both? And the reason
Speaker 4: I say both because.
Speaker 2: One come on now, give us one, Come on now one.
Speaker 3: Whoever takes the l in this one, the fan base
Speaker 3: is gonna riot on them. Okay, they're not firing John Harball.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 9: John?
Speaker 3: John Harball got a job next year with the Okay,
Speaker 3: let me put it right there, Len Harball coaching.
Speaker 4: You can't say that about about homeboy.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, we cannot, Mike McCarthy, McCarthy about pressure,
Speaker 3: John Harbord go oh and three, John Harball will Steve Bushatti,
Speaker 3: the owners not firing him.
Speaker 4: He's good. This guy, Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3: You lose your third straight game at home, and you
Speaker 3: lose to a team that's owing two, Well, you know
Speaker 3: what the questions we're going to be asking, what's your faith.
Speaker 4: In coach McCarthy right now?
Speaker 9: Do you?
Speaker 4: I mean, so you talk about the pressure.
Speaker 3: If I'm John Harbaugh, I feel real good I'll be
Speaker 3: coaching the Ravens at twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6: That's wow, because after week one, Yeah, yeah, they have
Speaker 6: a question.
Speaker 2: We paid a man.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, they they they've not lost Okay, they've not
Speaker 3: lost faith in him as the head coach.
Speaker 7: Oh no, John save John good.
Speaker 3: He's won them a super Bowl there. So when you
Speaker 3: talk about the pressure, we gotta add to me. You
Speaker 3: gotta add I know, a regular seasons right now. But
Speaker 3: that gets added into the minto because as the head coach,
Speaker 3: what else you got? You got a stafford people, you
Speaker 3: know what, guys and staffords and families like, we're gonna
Speaker 3: be here next year? That do I need to dust
Speaker 3: off the resume? So you go, oh and three, now
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a whole week. Jerry on the radio
Speaker 3: doing the TV at the game, Jerry on the radio,
Speaker 3: Steven on the radio, first take, that's going to be
Speaker 3: you know, they go turn up the heat on Mike.
Speaker 3: So if you're asking me to pick one it's the Cowboys,
Speaker 3: there's going to be the problem there for Mike McCarthy
Speaker 3: and the Cowboys. If they fall to oh and two
Speaker 3: at home in are one and two to start the season.
Speaker 2: Well, then we finally got you. We have to push you,
Speaker 2: but we finally got you to pick a side.
Speaker 9: You did.
Speaker 2: And so you were saying, Baltimore, it's not it's they.
Speaker 2: That's definitely not okay. So I mean, and I love
Speaker 2: what you what you just said, but I just feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, for the media and the fans and everybody else,
Speaker 2: they would be saying, you know, it's the Cowboys. But
Speaker 2: to me, in the grand scheme of things, it's on
Speaker 2: the Ravens. Because if you start zero and three, the
Speaker 2: numbers say that not only you're not going to the
Speaker 2: AFC Championship, there's no way that you're going to a
Speaker 2: super Bowl. And for a team that felt like they
Speaker 2: were on the cusp of getting to a super Bowl,
Speaker 2: that to me would be a step back and a
Speaker 2: step in the wrong direction. Now, we don't live in Baltimore,
Speaker 2: but you know that there are rumbles of what's going
Speaker 2: on with John Harbaugh, who has been the longest tenured
Speaker 2: coach in football aside from Tumblin right as far as coaches,
Speaker 2: and the Baltimore Ravens for so long has been that
Speaker 2: organization that has been the postal child that everybody looks
Speaker 2: to for healthy salary cap, keeping players on your roster
Speaker 2: they're too deep. Was stacked with guys. Ozzie Newsom, that
Speaker 2: great Ozzie Newsom has made a career. He is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: throw it up. He is the Will McLay before Will
Speaker 2: McLay basically and bringing in guys. And last year they
Speaker 2: did something very Unraven like with getting rid of free
Speaker 2: agents that were people that helped them win. And for
Speaker 2: the longest they've been able to retain talent. And then
Speaker 2: they break. They lose three was it Jadavian Clowney Queen.
Speaker 2: They lose their three of their offensive linemen. And you
Speaker 2: know that's not the Raven way that we're used to seeing.
Speaker 2: The Ravens are always that team that drafts guys. You're like, man,
Speaker 2: that guy was born to be a raven. You know,
Speaker 2: now they got guys playing on the team that don't
Speaker 2: sort of don't fit the mix of what they do.
Speaker 2: So they go oh and three. To me, I think
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where you start looking around
Speaker 2: and going damn, you know, maybe they need another voice,
Speaker 2: maybe they need something different to get these guys over
Speaker 2: the hump.
Speaker 6: You've seen the division and that's the thing to me.
Speaker 6: If you look at the Baltimore Ravens, you go on three.
Speaker 6: We talk about the numbers, but I think that AFC North,
Speaker 6: it's going to be a tougher way to climb to
Speaker 6: get back into the race for playoffs. If you go
Speaker 6: ohero and three and a whatever with the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 6: you got the Cincinnati Bengals, you got the Browns, and
Speaker 6: you got the Steelers out there, those to me are
Speaker 6: tougher contests than you look at the New York Giants, Absolu,
Speaker 6: the Commanders in Philadelphia, Eagles, so black and Division four reason,
Speaker 6: it's a tough division to go head and scrape your
Speaker 6: way and climb your way back into. So you go
Speaker 6: zero and three out there, and you know you're behind
Speaker 6: the boat already. You got two AFC losses already would
Speaker 6: be Kansas City and the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 7: So to me, the pressure's got to be on.
Speaker 6: If we're talking about singles, just getting to this, to
Speaker 6: the playoffs for this season. With the Baltimore Ravens, I
Speaker 6: feel like the pressure is a little bit more on them.
Speaker 3: So looking at the North right now, Cincinnati's ozing two. Yep,
Speaker 3: they get Washington this week, Baltimore oh and two, Cleveland
Speaker 3: one and one, and Pittsburgh surprisingly two and zero.
Speaker 4: You just you know, for.
Speaker 3: Baltimore, obviously you want to win the division, but you
Speaker 3: start looking around here and the rest of the AFC,
Speaker 3: you can pretty much pick up a wild card. I'm
Speaker 3: not worried about them. I believe at the end of
Speaker 3: the year they'll be where they need to be. And
Speaker 3: pressure wise, the head coach is not sitting around here
Speaker 3: in the staff around here sitting around do I need
Speaker 3: to duft off, dust off my resume?
Speaker 4: Where the kids go be next?
Speaker 7: You?
Speaker 3: I mean, if you truly, if you're an assistant coach
Speaker 3: right now, Look, Mike's got a bag. Okay, Mike is
Speaker 3: going to be paid. He's been paid for been a
Speaker 3: head coach for what eighteen years now, he's got he's
Speaker 3: he's got money in the bag. These other guys you
Speaker 3: don't know, right, Take for instance, our friend Greg Ellis.
Speaker 4: Greg Ellis on the staff this year after the season.
Speaker 4: You don't know. Mike Zimmer, you don't know.
Speaker 3: So there's a bunch of these guys that are like,
Speaker 3: hey man, we're all coaching for our lives. That's not
Speaker 3: the case in Baltimore. So when I think about pressure,
Speaker 3: I think about that other stuff that goes in it.
Speaker 4: Remember the I won't say pressure, but your your your
Speaker 4: free agent year.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you got to perform. If you don't before
Speaker 7: you ain't getting the back.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff going on in your mind
Speaker 3: about oh you know, I'm sure your wife was asking questions, right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: Agented agent coaching.
Speaker 2: Anything. He talked to me said, Church, if you want
Speaker 2: to get paid. But that's what that's what Barchurch signed
Speaker 2: up for. You know it. You know what it was.
Speaker 2: And it's not like Barry Church came in with his
Speaker 2: eyes closed going, oh my god, what's gonna happen next?
Speaker 2: You know, it was in your control. You have to
Speaker 2: go out there and you have to take care of
Speaker 2: your business. That's the same way with this coaching staff.
Speaker 2: Is Mike McCarty the under pressure Hell yeah, And I
Speaker 2: mean we talked about the fact that he has a
Speaker 2: lot of people's jobs in the palm of his hands
Speaker 2: and he cannot afford to have another showing like he
Speaker 2: had last Sunday. I mean, and things get a lot hotter.
Speaker 2: The door, the windows get a lot smaller for everybody.
Speaker 2: But when I look at where they are and the
Speaker 2: rest of their season, they're playing that first place regular
Speaker 2: you know, regular season. They got some tough matchups, all right,
Speaker 2: But if they're able to get through this NFC East
Speaker 2: capture and I'm just projecting here to a wild card win,
Speaker 2: a playoff game that gets a lot of that heat
Speaker 2: off of you, Now, those are still possibilities for the Ravens.
Speaker 2: They know, Hey, we go to zero and three, dog,
Speaker 2: it's off of nothing. And on top of that, we
Speaker 2: have a division that's not gonna show us any mercy.
Speaker 2: So that's that's I mean, look on the bright side me.
Speaker 7: On that, that's true as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, agreed to get disagree plans lounge, what we have
Speaker 3: our thoughts on that. Yeah, yeah, this game cannot be
Speaker 3: over before half time. The last two Copboary contests have
Speaker 3: been over by halftime. You can might as well just
Speaker 3: go on to Texas Live and get a drink and
Speaker 3: get ready for the afternoon games.
Speaker 4: You can't have that again. And actually, my best friend works.
Speaker 3: Somebody's like you saw people, they were, they were there
Speaker 3: at halftime. You're left already. Yeah, you paid all that money. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna stay here for that. So because the beers
Speaker 3: are cheaper, you put over.
Speaker 7: There fifteen dollars.
Speaker 4: That kind of that. There's some pressure. Okay, hey guys,
Speaker 4: we need to keep this close. Man, that's where we fall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can we stay?
Speaker 3: So yes, you say third game of the season. But
Speaker 3: being the coach of the Cowboys like Mike McCarthy is,
Speaker 3: you just don't get to say it's the third game
Speaker 3: of the season. You're carrying this stuff with you. You know,
Speaker 3: they want to talk about it and talked about how
Speaker 3: well Green Bay's got nothing to do with it last year. No,
Speaker 3: not in this fan base is mine. Not in the
Speaker 3: owner's mind. It's right there. So you carry it with you,
Speaker 3: and in some ways the trouble for being the head
Speaker 3: coach of the Cowboys is you are dying for sins
Speaker 3: what other people haven't done here for the last thirty years.
Speaker 4: But you signed up for it.
Speaker 3: And now when you talk about the pressure, here comes
Speaker 3: a team that we know can run the ball. We
Speaker 3: had a team that ran the ball last week with
Speaker 3: a dude who stayed in the pocket and only threw
Speaker 3: it sixteen times.
Speaker 4: This guy this week is looking to get out.
Speaker 3: Oh by the way, Mozzi left practice yesterday with a
Speaker 3: back issue. They put Phillips on ir. They brought in
Speaker 3: Carls Watkins back. So right now you have questions about
Speaker 3: your DT's. The guys up here in the interier DIGGI
Speaker 3: Zoo came out locker room and said that was his
Speaker 3: worst game that he's played here.
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, I wouldn't be sleeping real good at night.
Speaker 2: No, And I don't think any of these players should
Speaker 2: be or are. I mean, I think they feel as
Speaker 2: though they got embarrassed at home, and the national media
Speaker 2: is it reminded them each and every day. The fan
Speaker 2: base is reminding them that that was an embarrassment. I mean,
Speaker 2: some of it's not fair, you know, Micah in that situation,
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know that nobody's pleased
Speaker 2: with the way last Sunday went, and nobody's pleased at
Speaker 2: the way the last two home games have gone. And
Speaker 2: that's why I say this is a gut check game,
Speaker 2: because Baltimore doesn't embody anything else but a team that
Speaker 2: says we are a running team. They're not going to
Speaker 2: try and air you out. And so in order for
Speaker 2: them to escape from being zero and three, they have
Speaker 2: a plan to run Henry over and over again. And
Speaker 2: if I see a guy making a business decision, you know, oh,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be business siss made.
Speaker 4: But hey, come on, I's gonna come on. And that's
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You've been seeing that, Barry, because I know you watched
Speaker 2: defense more than anything, and it's just an epidemic. It
Speaker 2: ain't just in the pros, it's in college, just everywhere.
Speaker 2: Guys bouncing around, jumping in and out of holes, trying
Speaker 2: to avoid whether you're guessing wrong or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: you're reading the wrong keys. And it's just bad defense.
Speaker 2: Last weekend was last Sunday was bad defense. Our linebackers
Speaker 2: couldn't play. They were getting was that those those those
Speaker 2: construction barrels thrown at them. They was getting it off.
Speaker 2: Every man, I mean you running through all that stuff. Man,
Speaker 2: it's no way you can make a tackle.
Speaker 4: You mentioned unfair to michaeh m.
Speaker 2: You said I was talking about the fan after after
Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's everybody that that video well, I mean it shows
Speaker 2: Michael walking. Well, first of all, I didn't see. All
Speaker 2: I saw was the end. So I'm just assuming that
Speaker 2: this gentleman was asking for an autograph and Michael didn't
Speaker 2: sign it, and at at at Sadi of the fans.
Speaker 2: One of the great things about a tn T Statians
Speaker 2: the fans are able to see the players walk in
Speaker 2: and walk out and if they and if they get
Speaker 2: an opportunity to sign a jersey or a helmet or
Speaker 2: something like that, they'll do it. In this case, Michael
Speaker 2: just walked straight out against He just lost the game.
Speaker 2: He just got embarrassed, which they understand. Yeah, he didn't
Speaker 2: want to sign it. And the guy you know, cause
Speaker 2: him a you know, curses at them in front of
Speaker 2: he is probably there with his family, and I just look, man,
Speaker 2: look on both sides. It was a good it wasn't
Speaker 2: a good look. It wasn't a good look. But that's
Speaker 2: why I say, fans are probably more frustrated than normal.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's not how you do it. That's not
Speaker 2: how you do it.
Speaker 3: When I saw the video, what was what disturbs me
Speaker 3: about this church in your era, former player, and you
Speaker 3: you've made them through, made that all before is.
Speaker 4: You take away that barrier. Let's see how manned up
Speaker 4: he wants.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, please God, don't take the barrier away
Speaker 2: and keep the barrier right there.
Speaker 3: Let's keep let's be the man the man want to
Speaker 3: right and see how you do that. And so they're
Speaker 3: your charge being the professional player. You have to ignore
Speaker 3: it or keep on going. Your humanity is just taken away.
Speaker 3: You just have to sit up here and do it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: We don't know if Micah had his kids.
Speaker 3: Around or anything that at all. Man, who else was
Speaker 3: around here? And you have people that act in that fashion.
Speaker 3: He doesn't owe you anything. He doesn't owe you. You
Speaker 3: can buy the jersey, that doesn't mean he's required to
Speaker 3: sign it or sign anything that you have. And oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, this was a grown man. This was
Speaker 3: a grown man.
Speaker 2: So go ahead.
Speaker 4: This is just me hot last week, right, they just
Speaker 4: got blown out.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm not standing outside as a grown man holding
Speaker 3: up something, waiting on another grown man, begging and please signing,
Speaker 3: and hoping he comes over to me after he deals
Speaker 3: with all the kids.
Speaker 4: What are we doing?
Speaker 7: You shouldn't have those things after the game.
Speaker 6: I could see going in before the game, having the
Speaker 6: gauntlet going through. You know, everybody's emotions are high for
Speaker 6: the game afterwards, man win loser. I mean you, you
Speaker 6: just got your tail kicked in and the last thing
Speaker 6: you want to do is sign go over here, sign something,
Speaker 6: especially if you was a non factor in the game.
Speaker 6: Like that's one of them things where you're just like, man,
Speaker 6: I can't do this right now, Like I'm focused on
Speaker 6: trying to how am I gonna get better? How am
Speaker 6: I gonna get my game to the next level. You
Speaker 6: got a guy talking about signing this sign, this jersey,
Speaker 6: sign his helmet.
Speaker 2: You don't do it.
Speaker 4: He cursed you out, but we don't know if he
Speaker 4: had signed something earlier as well.
Speaker 3: That's fact as well, But just that whole premise, I'm
Speaker 3: because you didn't do what I want.
Speaker 4: It means now I get it. Therefore curse you out because.
Speaker 3: I know you really can't say anything back to me,
Speaker 3: not with all these camera phones around here.
Speaker 4: You just you just really can't. I just it was
Speaker 4: it wasn't a good look.
Speaker 3: And from classing then you know you're too young for this.
Speaker 3: But bro, the way he was raised, some whole training
Speaker 3: and manners, it's just non existent.
Speaker 4: Man, just do that to people.
Speaker 2: Man, look, I just look, I didn't. I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't like it one And what you were just saying
Speaker 2: about after a loss, And I pray that they don't
Speaker 2: get rid of that because I think those are those
Speaker 2: are fans opportunity to finally see the Toledo Rocket, Barry Church.
Speaker 2: You know, you may not something most people I know,
Speaker 2: they never even been to a Cowboys game, you know,
Speaker 2: let alone seeing a Dallas Cowboy in real life. So
Speaker 2: you know that doesn't mean you act a fool when
Speaker 2: I see you. I don't mean I call you out
Speaker 2: of your name. But at the same time, for some
Speaker 2: of these kids, they wait and they want to get
Speaker 2: a sign, get this something signed by their hero. Now
Speaker 2: grown man, you know, if you're getting something to sign,
Speaker 2: what is it for? You know, you say it's from
Speaker 2: a man cave or whatever. But we live in a
Speaker 2: time where we know better people are selling those items
Speaker 2: you know at the end of the day. So look,
Speaker 2: it just it was it was. It wasn't a good look.
Speaker 2: I didn't like it at all.
Speaker 3: No, No, it's just not the way you treat other people.
Speaker 3: Just humanity out of place. It's just not the way
Speaker 3: you treat people. All right, let's get our final break
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Speaker 3: up the Baltimore Ravens. Ravens favorite in this game. So
Speaker 3: how does Dak Prescott help the defense out?
Speaker 2: I think Number one, you guys have seen how bad
Speaker 2: the Ravens are and the secondary. Oh they're thirty. They
Speaker 2: are first in offense, but they are thirty second in
Speaker 2: past defense, which last, which which means you know, that
Speaker 2: that tempts you to, you know, air them out, I think.
Speaker 2: But that's that's what gives me Pauls in this game,
Speaker 2: is that Dak didn't come into this game saying, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw the ball forty five fifty times this game.
Speaker 2: He has to be under control and keep that balance.
Speaker 2: And man, we've talked about a running game, and I know,
Speaker 2: to no end we've tried to see some type of
Speaker 2: hope or at least cilverl lining Uh in the running game,
Speaker 2: but there is none. But you're gonna have to continue.
Speaker 2: You gotta continue to go back to U this matchup
Speaker 2: against the Cowboys offensive line in the Ravens defensive line,
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a damn good one. Last week,
Speaker 2: the offensive line for the Dubtas Cowboys didn't look that good,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't as bad as you thought either, because
Speaker 2: I felt like there wasn't a running back that really
Speaker 2: got into any rhythm. Ric o'dowdell didn't number the other
Speaker 2: forty two, didn't club forty two, club forty two, he
Speaker 2: didn't get involved, and Ezekiel Elliott didn't. And so I
Speaker 2: just want to make sure that in this game coming
Speaker 2: in that Dak picks his spots, you know they're gonna
Speaker 2: be times where they double CD teams are right now,
Speaker 2: what I've seen from the first game to now is
Speaker 2: that teams are like you eighty eight are not going
Speaker 2: to be there on We're gonna double team you, and
Speaker 2: whatever you do, it's gonna be because we got a
Speaker 2: safety over the top of you, just a bad mofo
Speaker 2: and you're getting it done right, But now we need
Speaker 2: to find somebody else and you know, second third receiver
Speaker 2: that can get it done as well. But it's the
Speaker 2: running game for me. I look for Dak to continue
Speaker 2: to mix this up and keep that balance on offense.
Speaker 6: Well, you are one thousand percent right man when you
Speaker 6: talk about they have to have this balance approach when
Speaker 6: you're going against the Baltimore Ravens, Like, we can't go
Speaker 6: into this game and it all be on dak shoulder
Speaker 6: to where he's throwing the ball forty to fifty times.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's just not a recipe for success. When
Speaker 6: you look at this this Cowboys team, I try to
Speaker 6: want to go back to the game plan they had
Speaker 6: against the Cleveland Browns, which is a very very good
Speaker 6: defense in their own right, But they kept those guys
Speaker 6: off balance. And that's why, even though we talk a
Speaker 6: lot about this running game, I don't want to give
Speaker 6: up too much hope on that running back back committee
Speaker 6: room because if you look at that Cleveland glame, they did.
Speaker 7: Average four yards per carry. They did rush for over
Speaker 7: one hundred yards.
Speaker 6: Now, was that unit terrible versus the Saints, Of course
Speaker 6: they were, but there was a lot of other units
Speaker 6: with the Dallas Cowboys that were terrible against the Saints.
Speaker 6: So I don't want to give up on that running
Speaker 6: back room just yet. But when you go into this
Speaker 6: Baltimore game, you gotta be balanced because we all understand,
Speaker 6: like you just said, Baltimore's passing defense is atrocious. And
Speaker 6: what they're gonna do is they're gonna try to put
Speaker 6: all their resources into shutting down CD, LAMB, double team,
Speaker 6: triple team, whatever the case may be. They're gonna force
Speaker 6: the Cooks of the world Tolbert, if Ferguson's able to play,
Speaker 6: they're gonna say, look, we're gonna take away CD. But
Speaker 6: you guys on this end, ya, if y'all win with them,
Speaker 6: tip to the cap to you. That's what they're gonna
Speaker 6: try to do and to me, you gotta have that
Speaker 6: running game in there, even if you're only averaging two
Speaker 6: and a half yards per carry. Even if that's the case,
Speaker 6: you gotta keep that deepsive line from the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 7: Honest, you can't.
Speaker 6: Let's let them go back there pinning their ears back
Speaker 6: and get after Prescott.
Speaker 3: You can't let that have all right, gentlemen, you can
Speaker 3: mix it up and do whatever. To me, this is
Speaker 3: real simple and it's a problem that were happening throughout
Speaker 3: the league. Last week and Week two Cowboys and three
Speaker 3: in the red zone.
Speaker 2: That's huge.
Speaker 3: Washington last week, wash and six in the red zone,
Speaker 3: but they won because Detroit one of seven in the
Speaker 3: red zone last week, lost Tennessee one of four in
Speaker 3: the red zone last week, and lost in Cincinnati two
Speaker 3: to four in the red zone last week and lost.
Speaker 3: We saw this with with them last year. With this
Speaker 3: football team, red zone issues are problem. We thought it
Speaker 3: was solved week one. Kind of go back and look
Speaker 3: a little Week one. They left some meat on the
Speaker 3: bowl there too. They've got to get better there. New Orleans,
Speaker 3: on the other hand, they were four or five.
Speaker 2: In the red zone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So to me. I don't tell how you
Speaker 3: get there. Mix it, throw at forty, run it for
Speaker 3: I don't care. You better punch the ball in the
Speaker 3: end zone against this Ravens team and try to make
Speaker 3: them one dimensional so that Lamar Jackson has to throw.
Speaker 4: You've got to go ahead and do that. So lot
Speaker 4: lots to get to. Man, we got more stuff to
Speaker 4: go there.
Speaker 2: Let me let me inject this before we get out
Speaker 2: of here. This off look at this the offensive and
Speaker 2: defensive line. The defensive line for the Baltimore Rais's big
Speaker 2: boys in the middle, they stout okay, and they have
Speaker 2: a guy named Numdi Matabk from Texas A and M.
Speaker 2: He went to McKinney North kid out of the Metroplex.
Speaker 2: He's been that side since high school. Though you know
Speaker 2: what I mean huge. But what I'm telling you is
Speaker 2: like is he they move him around a lot. And
Speaker 2: this is something This is gonna be even weird for
Speaker 2: me to say as I've filtered this through my head.
Speaker 2: Zach Martin has looked human in these last couple of games.
Speaker 2: And when we throw our criticism, when we throw our criticism,
Speaker 2: we miss Zach Martin and that because he's I mean
Speaker 2: two holding penalties for a year All Pro Pro bowler.
Speaker 2: All that, that's just school he is. But there's something
Speaker 2: about his game right now. It's like, oh man, I am,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him get beat like that. Matabik is
Speaker 2: going to be one of those guys that they have
Speaker 2: got to stonewall him inside because you've seen even in
Speaker 2: that Saints game, Dak was taking a lot of pressure
Speaker 2: up the middle. Please remember also that they did sack
Speaker 2: the Raiders quarterback five times. Minshewt They did sacking five times,
Speaker 2: So I mean that will alter your offense completely. If
Speaker 2: Dak is on his butt five times, go.
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Speaker 7: Gotta go at him, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: Thursday Night Football, New England at the Jets. Both teams
Speaker 3: won in one. Jets are favorite in this game. Give
Speaker 3: me the Jets to win twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you give me the Jets to win there
Speaker 6: twenty four to seventeen. Ay rod first game back in
Speaker 6: New York since the Achilles.
Speaker 2: Brize hall is I think he's the secret sauce until
Speaker 2: you could tell that Aaron Rodgers still working his way
Speaker 2: so I'm going with the Jets. Two twenty four to
Speaker 2: twenty is my score.
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