1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to Faith and Freedom. I'm Shamaine Nugent. 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: I've known him for twenty five years. He's a journalist, 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: a truth teller, and still one of the good ones. 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Steve Gruber is the host of America's Voice Live and 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: the Steve Gruber Show right here on Real America's Voice, 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: and he joins me live right now. 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Welcome Steve Jamaine. 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Nice to see you. 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: Good to see you too. 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: So my question for you is how does a nice 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: guy like you end up in a place like this. 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: You and I go way back, like over thirty years. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we've been on the same networks a few 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: different times now, going back to the hunting and outdoor 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: stuff that we all did together, and you know, Ted 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: and I and you as well, harassing wildlife all over 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: the planet. So yeah, we've done this a lot. And look, 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: Real America's Voice. What the SIGs did here is brilliant 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: and they gave it an opportunity for real Americans to 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: be heard, not the garbage mainstream media. And so obviously 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: we all gravitate to that. You me, Ted, It only 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: makes sense we would come to a place where we're 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: allowed to speak our mind without being censored, without being marginalized. 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: I think it's great and I'm glad to be here. 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: Well. 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: Speaking of telling the truth, and that's what you do 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: so well on your shows. 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: I want to hear. 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: About something that you've been on comfort uncovering lately and 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: the rest of the media has really dropped the ball on, 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: and that is fentanyl. Because this isn't just some sort 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: of drug story. It's hitting families, it's everyday, normal families. 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Walk me through what you're seeing in regards to that. 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: Well, one of the most startling stories that I've uncovered 36 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: so far right here in Michigan is a little town 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: called Rapid River. It's just north of escanav In the 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,919 Speaker 3: up right three hundred and thirty five people. They've buried 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: five of their own in the last year. Their own 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: that they've buried from Fentyl in a year. A little 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: town right next road is called Nama. It has twenty 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: five total souls. They're one of those killed by Fentyl. 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: You look at this Traverse City, Michigan. Everybody knows Trafford City. 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: Eight people died there in a month. So while the 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 3: people on the left are out there skiming about, Oh, 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: you can't blow up these drug boats. You know, it's 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: just cocaine, chamain, it's just weed or whatever they're saying. 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: Look a friend of mine, good guy, fishing guy, the 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: guy that Ivy and I've gotten to know pretty well 50 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 3: over the last couple of years, fishing with him and 51 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: getting to know him. His son, nineteen year old college 52 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: kid died last year. What do you do? Went out 53 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: on a weekend, took a couple of hits off a joint, 54 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: you know, college kid thing, it's lays with fentyl. He dies. 55 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: I mean, these are the kind of real stories that 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: impact families. If you're in a town of three hundred 57 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: and thirty five people, Rapid River, Michigan. It's not exactly 58 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: the crossroads of a major city or anything else. It's 59 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: two thousand miles from the border, and people are dying 60 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: and it's just it's a terrible, gut wrenching thing, and 61 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: it's just an awful story. But the problem is what 62 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: people are telling. And I appreciate you saying this. You 63 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: had to put a human face on this. You know, 64 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: it's Christmas. How many people are not going to have 65 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: Christmas today with a loved one or two. There's a 66 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: story out of Birmingham. A woman lost two sons one 67 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: day and a third girl there seventeen, twenty and twenty 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: two all died because they got laced with fenel. They 69 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 3: didn't know, they thought they were taking something else, bambit 70 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: and they're dead. Look you talk to these parents, these 71 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: angel moms and dads as they call themselves, that are 72 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: burying their sons, their daughters, their friends, their neighbors, and 73 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: they will tell you they don't care about the boats 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: getting blown out of the water that are delivering drugs. 75 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: And look, you fished once or twice. I fished once 76 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: or twice, might have been on a charter boat here there. 77 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: I've never seen a charter boat with five matching four 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: hundred horse MRK cruisers across the back with fifty five 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: gallon drums. That's no fishing boat I've ever seen. All right, 80 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: let's just be clear about that. So we have to 81 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: put a human face on this because those on the 82 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: left are ignoring the true tragedy. It's an American traged 83 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: and in fact, I would go step further, I'd say 84 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: it's an act of war. These chemicals start in China. 85 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: They're usually combined in places like Venezuela and Mexico, and 86 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: then it shipped over the border. However, it gets here 87 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: and it's sprinkled into to the other street drugs to 88 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: make them even more addictive. Except the guys that are 89 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: doing it, they're not real scientific about it. Oh just 90 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: throw a little bit in there, and what happens is 91 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: another guy like my friend's nineteen year old son, good 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: kid in college, isn't here with us anymore. In fact, 93 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: here's here's why I put it. Before the stroke of 94 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: midnight today, several more people die in Michigan. Two hundred 95 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: and twenty five will die across this country before the 96 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: stroke of midnight tonight from overdoses related to this illegal 97 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: illicit drugs. I mean, it's a horrible tragedy. You know 98 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: the faces of Fennel that you see there, Pay attention. 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: These are real families that are going through real pain. 100 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 3: And it's really a story that needs to be told. 101 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: And it's so tragic. And here's what I don't get, Steve. 102 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: You got kids dying in suburbs and small towns everywhere, 103 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: but there's still this perception that it's somebody else's problem. 104 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: How do you break through that? And what can you. 105 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: Share with moms and dads and young people today that 106 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: are watching this. 107 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: Look, I pounded into my I have a thirteen year 108 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: old son right he's here with me a little getaway 109 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: here during the Christmas holiday season, and got one of 110 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: my nephews with me. He's also thirteen. I pounded into 111 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 3: these kids every day. But you can only do so much. 112 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: You tell them, Look, you deviate once, you screw out once, 113 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: it can be the last time you scre on forever. 114 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: Don't do that to your mother, is what I say. 115 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: Don't do that to your father. Look, there are people 116 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: at other priorities all wrong, and that's criminals that are 117 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: in and out of jail. You know, you see these 118 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: stories too. You know the guy's been arrested fifty times 119 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: and he punches some elderly woman on the side of 120 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: the head. Because you have a criminal justice system that's 121 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: failing Americans. You've got the border that was opened under 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: the bodyministration for years, this stuff just flowed in. Look, 123 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: these cartels were cashing in on the misery of Americans 124 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: feeding this addiction. And they'll say, well, you couldn't do 125 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: this without customers, but you create customers. And so I 126 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: think this administration is going in the right direction. Closing 127 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: the border, cracking down, stopping these narco terrorist boats. I 128 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: think that I agree with that, and I have yet 129 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 3: to meet an angel, mom or dad that says that's 130 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: the wrong thing to do. In fact, they said, hell, yeah, 131 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: I'm all for it, as they should be. But is 132 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: there a solution. We're working on it. You got to 133 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: tighten it down. Look, declaring fentanyl a weapon of mass 134 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: destruction step in the right direction. I think. 135 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: I wonder why, Steve, why do you think that the media, 136 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: mainstream media isn't talking about this at all and we're 137 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: not seeing the real human costs for every single life 138 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: and every single family on mainstream media. 139 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: Well, well, think about this. Well, first of all, they're complicit. 140 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: To answer your question, they stood there slack jawed and 141 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: glassy eyed while the border remained open. They told us, oh, 142 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: nothing you can do without immigration reform. Obviously that's not true. 143 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: Crossings are down ninety seven percent. So you see, there's 144 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: an absolute fare of the media is complicit, and they've 145 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: been complicit and overlooking the fact that these people are 146 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: on a revolving door when it comes to crimes that 147 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: they commit. I mean, you look what was having in Washington, 148 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: d C. Since Stormtup rolled out the National Guard. Homicides 149 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: are at a forty year low. Carjackings are down seventy 150 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: five percent, sexual assaults down thirty five percent. The fact 151 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: of the matter is if you step in and do 152 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: your job, then you're going to save people's lives. You 153 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: live in Texas, right, So we saw during the border 154 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: invasion during the Biden years, not only did they just 155 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: leave the border open, they reopened it. When the State 156 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: of Texas put down razor wire at the river, the 157 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: front end loaders came in and pushed that raiz why 158 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: out of the way and lifted up some people could flooded. 159 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: We don't know who these people were. They're unvetted, they're unchecked, 160 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: and then they're unleashed on America. Another big problem, a 161 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: lot of those folks were drug mules. I mean, yes, 162 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: step one was closing the border. But you talk about 163 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: the fatality, think about this, Every ten days, an equal 164 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: number of people to have overdose in this country as 165 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: we have nine to eleven excuse me, not eleven every 166 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: ten days, Every eight months of as many people that 167 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: has died in the Vietnam War dying from this overdose 168 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: from this poison. And so the media, look, they were 169 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: the propaganda arm for the Democrats and the open border. 170 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: Now it's not that big a deal. Oh, you're xenophobic. No, 171 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: I'm not xenophobic, I can assure you. But I am 172 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 3: opposed to people that don't follow the laws. I have 173 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: opposed people that come here and pass out poison to 174 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: our kids. And it's not just kids, by the way. 175 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: I've heard of a guy today was in his sixties. 176 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: Thought he was taking anaxy coodone pill. Nope, laced with fentanyl. 177 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: Done right there. This is a this is an epidemic 178 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: of poison killing our folks here in America, and it's 179 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: being stopped. But there's a lot of work to be done. 180 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: You know, it's stavid almost seems like it's intentional. 181 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: It does. You know, Look, I said, it's an active 182 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: war if China is creating the components and then selling 183 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: them to Mexico. Of the eight drug cartels that Donald 184 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: Trump said are foreign terrorist organizations, two were in Venezuela, 185 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 3: six were in Mexico. And you've got Claudia Shinbaum there, 186 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: the president of Mexico saying, we will never allow America 187 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: to come in here and you know, reach our sovereignty. 188 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Look clean up your act in Mexico. 189 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: Now they've arrested almost forty thousand people since Donald Trump 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: said you need to get this cleaned up or something 191 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: bad's gonna happen. We know where their networks are, we 192 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 3: know where the drug factories are, we know where their 193 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 3: rat lines are, where they're moving drugs. We've got these things, 194 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: I think they're called predator drones. Pretty effective piece of 195 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 3: equipment for neutralizing terrorists. And if these are truly terrorist organizations, 196 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: which I believe they are, when you're killing that many people, 197 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: and you're killing one hundred thousand Americans or more, fetnol 198 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: plus or the other street drugs plus the other things 199 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: to get in oxycodon, whatever it is that are fake 200 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: pills being and you know, created illegally in other countries 201 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: and brought here, there's a lot we can do. I'm 202 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: the media is complicit. The Democrats are complicit. And you 203 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: listen to these clowns now, I mean they'll lie about anything, Chamaine. 204 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: I mean Bill Clinton's all over the Epstein files. Well, yeah, 205 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: but we don't really know the context of that. Give 206 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: me a break. I mean, come on, these guys have 207 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: been trying to get Donald Trump on garbage charges for 208 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: years and here's Bill Clinton in a hot tub, half 209 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: dressed young women with Jeffrey Epstein. Oh yeah, that doesn't 210 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: mean anything. 211 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: Really, You've got We've got a lot more to talk about, Steve, 212 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: We got a lot more to talk about this. 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We'll be right back 230 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: with Steve Kruber and more about fentanyl. 231 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: Reller's the opportunity to be an outsider, because it's the 232 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 4: outsiders to change the world. 233 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 234 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: Reller's the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the 235 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: outsiders to change the world. 236 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 237 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: We're back with longtime friend and fellow journalist right here 238 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: in real America's voice, Steve Kruber. 239 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Steve, welcome back. 240 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: Good to be here. 241 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: We were just getting started. You're a journalist, you do radio, 242 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: you do TV. What made you say, look at this 243 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: problem of fentanyl affecting our families and go I want 244 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: to make a documentary about it. 245 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know it was my friend last year, my 246 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: friend Kevin, who lost his nineteen year old son. And 247 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: you say, wait a second, and I'm seeing all these people, 248 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: you know, scream a war crime or whatever, because we're 249 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: blowing these drug delivery boats out of the water. Look, 250 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: we need to hold these people accountable. And so that's 251 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: why I started digging into it, and I started finding 252 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: places like Rapid River, Michigan. It's lost five people out 253 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: of a town of three hundred and thirty five. I mean, 254 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: you think that does have impact. So I started talking 255 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: to people up there. It's on Little Baya Knock. You know, 256 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: anybody who's ever a fish walleye in their life or 257 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: small mouth knows where that is. Sportsmen flocked to this 258 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: part of the state of Michigan for the great fishing 259 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: and so forth, and these towns are just devastated. And 260 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: I have support groups there and they're all working together 261 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: to try to get each other through it. And so 262 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: it's incredibly important in moving stories, you know. And I 263 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: think that we don't put a human face on it enough. 264 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 3: When you think that the same number of people that 265 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 3: died in nine to eleven die every ten days from 266 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: this poison. It's a story that has to be told. 267 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: So and I don't just want to give the the 268 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: horror stories of it, and I don't just want to 269 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: give the stories that are angel moms and dads. I 270 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: want to talk about what we can do to do better? 271 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: You know, what can we do to make it better? 272 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: Because there is hope here. I had a woman on 273 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: today on the program here in real America's voice, who 274 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: lost her son two years ago. He was thirty four 275 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: years old, good guy working, had a job, took one 276 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 3: oxy cootone pill laced bam. And that's it. And that's 277 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: what's driving me to do this story. So we do 278 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 3: have thank you for mentioning that we have a documentary 279 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: and development. We've got the preliminary green light, and we're 280 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 3: going to go find these stories not just of loss, 281 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: but of hope and how communities come together. I mean, 282 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: that's small town of America, Chamaine. You've lived there. I've 283 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: lived there my entire life. We come together and they 284 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: hold each other together when they're just well, they feel 285 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: like they can just fall apart. I mean, just the 286 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: devastating loss of a child, unimaginable amounts of pain when 287 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: it was completely avoidable. Again, how many people did we 288 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 3: lose because we left that border open right that was 289 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: unnecessary and preventable. I mean that haunts me. I can 290 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: only imagine what it does to parents that have lost children. 291 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about small town and people coming together. 292 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Ephesians six twelve through eighteen talks about you know, we 293 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: don't wrestle against flesh and blood, but mainstream media would 294 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: have you think that we are This is not who 295 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: we are. We come together as families and we help 296 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: each other. But I want to find out a little 297 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: bit more about your investigative process to discover what's who's 298 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: really behind this. I would think that if you have somebody, 299 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: your friend's son, who was smoking a joint that was 300 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: laced with fentanyl, where did that joint come from? Who 301 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: got it, how'd they get it, who supplied them? And 302 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: can't we go after those bad guys? 303 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: Same question I asked the woman that was on with 304 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: me this morning from Traverse City, Michigan, who lost your 305 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: son two years ago? I said, what happened to the 306 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: drug dealer? She says, in the wind, you don't know 307 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: it because they just you know, they're out there in 308 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: the mix, and you don't know who it came from. 309 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: And after they he'd been dead for a day or 310 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: two before they found him in his house, you don't 311 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: know where'd the joint come from. You're on a college campus. 312 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: People come, people go, product passes hands, six, eight, ten times. 313 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: Who knows how much right it gets passed around, mood around, 314 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: and then there's the problem nobody's held accountable. So I 315 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: would suggest that maybe it'd be a good idea in 316 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six on the to do list. If you're 317 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: a dealer and you deal fentanyl and there's a fatality 318 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: that results from that, the penalties have to be stiff, 319 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: maybe even a life sentence if you. I mean, that's 320 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: that's willful disregard for human life. It's manslaughter at the minimum. 321 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: I would say manslaughter because it's human a willful disregard 322 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: for human life. And maybe there should be an executive 323 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: order on that. Maybe you could finally find some Democrats 324 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: to get on board with the Republicans and have a 325 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: bipartisan solution to holding these drug dealers accountable for what 326 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: they've done to this country, and that is kill I mean, 327 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: over the last ten years, that's a million people or 328 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: more that have died in this country because of this poison. 329 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: And so I think we have to hold these people 330 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: far more accountable. We have to have an education system 331 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: that's far better. Look, that's how silly it is. She mean, 332 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: I have a gentleman that comes on this program regularly 333 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: with me, Scott King. Here's all he does. He gets 334 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: fentanyl or not federal, he gets Narcan, and he gets 335 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: people to give him donations so he can buy narcan 336 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: to give it away for free. I carry Narcan in 337 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: my truck, not because any of my family uses any 338 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: of these drugs. But you never know anymore. She mean, 339 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: you could be at the shopping center, you could be 340 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: at your kid's school. You can be driving down the 341 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: street and there's somebody having a fatal overdose, and if 342 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: you got the narcan with you make it available. I 343 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: think narcan should be free across this country. Is it 344 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: a solution. No, But maybe we'd lose less people, Maybe 345 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 3: you'd bury less people. Maybe I have a chance to 346 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: fight back a little bit if you get these people 347 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: cleaned up. 348 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that we should go as far as 349 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: making marijuana illegal? And you know, in Colorado, I've never agreed. 350 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: You know, I have never agreed with marijuana being legal. 351 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: All right, I'll just say that in Michigan it's legal. 352 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: It's there's a weed shop on every corner here in Michigan. 353 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 3: Now they legalize it. 354 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: I know I smell it when we're driving by. We 355 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: live part time in Michigan, and I feel sorry for 356 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: the neighbors that have to live next to that. 357 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to. Ted kind of likes the smell. 358 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: But whatever. 359 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: You drive down I ninety six, the fastest piece of 360 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: highway in America, by the way, you drive down I 361 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 3: ninety six doing eighty ninety miles an hour legally for 362 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: the most part, and you can smell weed wafting into 363 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: the cars you're going down the expressway. How much weed 364 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: is being pounded in some vehicle in front of you. 365 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 3: The smell it going down the highway at that speed, 366 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: and you're right, you smell it everywhere. And what we've 367 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: done is we've normalized it and said, oh kids, it's fine. 368 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: It's no different than I alcohol. Marijuana today is many 369 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 3: times more powerful than it was when I was, you know, 370 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: fifteen years old or whatever, right back when I was 371 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: in middle school or high school or college. It is 372 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: so much more powerful. It's psychoactive. It has a negative 373 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 3: impact on adolescent brains. It's well documented. Now do I 374 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: agree with Donald Trump saying let's delist it down from 375 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 3: a class one to a class three so we can 376 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: study it. Yeah, because if somebody has cancer and they 377 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: can't eat, I got no problem with that. If something 378 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: has a medical issue where the marijuana or the CBD 379 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 3: buy product or whatever can help them, no problem with that. 380 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: But just making recreational legal, recreational marijuana legal, I've never agreed. 381 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: But decriminalizing I can live with that to a point. 382 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: But no, I've never thought it should be fully legal. 383 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: I know what it's like. In Colorado, the first state 384 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: that brought it in and fully legalized it, their homeless 385 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 3: population exploded, number of car accidents went up. I mean, 386 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 3: you can run all the stats. It's all there skiing. 387 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 3: They don't want to talk about it. 388 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: When I go skiing in Colorado, I mean I have 389 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: to tell. When I'm riding up the gondola and I'm 390 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: riding up with a bunch of young people and they're 391 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: smoking pot, I have to say something, Look, I don't 392 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: want to smoke or I don't want to ski high. 393 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: Can you stop that? 394 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: It's so prevalent in those areas where it is legalized. 395 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: I do think something needs to happen. 396 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what, but I want to get back 397 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: to your documentary just before we go, How are you 398 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: going to find these people, because I would imagine that 399 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: not everybody wants to talk about it. I mean especially 400 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, you've got kids who are going to colleges 401 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: and universities, or folks probably make a lot of money 402 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: and they probably don't want to talk about it. But 403 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: how do you find these people? 404 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting you say that because the woman 405 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: that was on with me this morning, the mom from 406 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 3: Traverse City who buried her son, said the problem is 407 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 3: not enough people talk about it. She goes, I don't care. 408 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about it. She goes. People are 409 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: worried about the stigma. She says, I'm worried about the 410 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: next kid that's going to die. So it does take 411 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: some courage. It takes some courage to step up and say, yeah, 412 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: my kid died of fentanyl and it breaks my heart. 413 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: But let me tell you my story so it won't 414 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: be your story. So I've already found Rapid River, Escanaba, 415 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: Nama right there, little Betaak, Traverse City. I've identified a 416 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: bunch of people. I've identified people outside of Fort Wayne, Indiana, 417 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: Bluffed in Indiana, small town again, back you back, Eddy Town, 418 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 3: pretty cool place. I found some people outside of Columbus, Ohio. 419 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is, once you start doing this, 420 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: the story starts to show themselves, and you'll find the 421 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: people that want to talk, and you'll find those that don't. 422 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: And I respect that. I respect their privacy. But in 423 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: order to save people, you got to step up and say, look, 424 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: this is what's happening. We're losing over one hundred thousand 425 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: people a year to this poison. And they talk about 426 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: democrats twist this. Well, you know, the life expectancy in 427 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: America is coming down. That's because the number one killer 428 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: of people eighteen to forty eight in this country, I 429 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: think is the section is driving down our life expectancy. 430 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: If you lose one hundred thousand people that are under 431 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: fifty years of age, it drives down to the life 432 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: expectancy numbers in a country. I mean, the math is 433 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: the math, and so look, we can find these people. 434 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: I've already found a bunch of them. The series is 435 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: called Steve Gribber's Forgotten America, a series that I did 436 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: a few episodes a number of years ago. But that's 437 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: the banner we're going to launch this under and hopefully 438 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: other stories. I mean, this isn't the only story of 439 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: forgotten America. I mean, and that's who Donald Trump appealed to, 440 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: the people that thought they were forgotten, ignored, left out, 441 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: you know, made fun of for being, you know, people 442 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: that believed in God, country, faith, Christmas. You know, these 443 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 3: are the people that have been marginalizing this country. And 444 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: that's what resonated with a majority of Trump voters, with 445 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: the people that thought that nobody cared what they thought 446 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: until he came along. And I think that there is 447 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 3: a change, a sea change attitude. 448 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Now, where are people going to be able to watch 449 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: this and how can they get involved? Follow you, follow 450 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: your journey and reporting about this. 451 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 3: Well, we're just going to get into development, so I 452 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: don't know where probably end up here in real America's voice. 453 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: We'll see how that plays out. But it's in development. 454 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: Don't have a home for it yet, but they can 455 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: always send me an email. Then go to Stevegruber dot com. 456 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 3: Send me an email, tell me your personal story, tell 457 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: me what you know about this drug. Maybe you were 458 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: a user, maybe you weren't, Maybe you know somebody who died. 459 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: That's one thing, And of course on social media at 460 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: Steve Grober's show, on acts and Facebook and all the 461 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: normal usual suspects. You can find me there. But I 462 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: look forward to your stories. Folks. If you're watching this program, 463 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: you've got a story, share it with me again, Steve 464 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: Gerber dot com send me an email. We want to 465 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: dig deeper. We want to tell the real story. Put 466 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: a real face to it, a real American face to it, 467 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: so people can relate. 468 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: And Steve, when is your show available here on Real 469 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: America's Voice. 470 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: How can people follow you? 471 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: Twice a day every day six am, I start the 472 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: podcast Hey here in Real America's Voice with the Steve 473 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: Rivers Show, and then three to four every afternoon of 474 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: America's Voice Live. And in between that I do two 475 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: three hours of radio. And you know, they ride me 476 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: like a rented mule around here. It's okay. I'm used 477 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: to it, ride me like a rented mule. I'm telling 478 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: you it's good. Though. I love my job I do. 479 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: I love what we do here and doing stories like 480 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: this is it's my passion. It is. 481 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: Steve, thank you so much for joining me. God bless you. 482 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: Jamaine. Always good to see you. Thank you. 483 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: Don't go away, We'll be right back. 484 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 485 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: the outside, is to change the world. 486 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 487 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 488 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: the outside is to change the world. 489 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 490 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: You're not going to believe this, but Ted and I 491 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: have some very exciting news. Actually, if you watch my show, 492 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: you've probably heard about it before. We love our dogs. 493 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Our dogs are like family to us. And about a 494 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: year ago we started working with a mad scientist who 495 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: created some supplements because we couldn't find any all natural 496 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: supplements to help our dog. 497 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: We've got two. 498 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: Older dogs that are struggling. In fact, a year ago, 499 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: our vet said that our dog Coco, the German Shepherd, 500 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: the deaf German Shepherd, would have to have her both 501 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: her hips replaced. We're like, how, no, that's not going 502 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: to happen. Well, she's been taking these supplements. Get Uncle 503 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: Ted's natural caneine supplements for about eight months now, and 504 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: just yesterday she was running around with Roco's dog Mally 505 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: and our dog, our young puppy, Jackson, and she's just 506 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: doing amazing. So go to get Uncle Ted's dot com. 507 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: They're natural canine supplements powered by bioflavonoids. Our dogs use 508 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: them daily and they tell us that they really love them. 509 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: They're thriving. Go to get Uncle Ted's dot com to 510 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: learn more. 511 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 512 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: Terry Newsom is a citizen journalist and hosts a podcast 513 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: called Behind Enemy Lines. He's a guy who's been on 514 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: the trenches, in the trenches on some of the biggest 515 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: stories that the mainstream media is not. 516 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: Going to touch. Terry Newsom joins me. 517 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: Now, Terry, welcome, Hello, Thanks for having me back absolutely anytime. 518 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: So you were there. 519 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: I want to get into a couple of things with you. 520 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: You were there on January sixth, Before we get in 521 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: to anything else, just set the scene. What happened, What 522 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: did you actually see? 523 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, one of my friends really really pushed 524 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 5: me to go. He was just retired as a police officer. 525 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 5: So we drove and got there at the last minute. 526 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 5: And we went there with two intentions. One to see 527 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 5: our president speak, and then two because I saw what 528 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 5: happened in November and December right and how people were 529 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 5: attacked by Antifa on the left, and we wanted to 530 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 5: make sure you know, even though we're old guys, we're 531 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: in our sixties, to do our best to make sure that, 532 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: you know, families and people weren't attacked by Antifa like 533 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 5: they previously were. There was no intent of a uh 534 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 5: you know, I didn't even know about to go to 535 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 5: the Capitol until the morning of so we had no 536 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 5: intent on this insurrection at all. The way we were dressed, 537 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 5: the way we were dressed to protect us. You know, 538 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 5: four guys got stabbed in December by BLM soup cans. 539 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 5: I was told about all the horror stories of what 540 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 5: Antifa does, and that's why all those people were dressed 541 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 5: the way we were dressed, not to fight or going 542 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 5: to the Capitol at all. So we got there. We 543 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 5: got into the Marriott about one o'clock in the morning, 544 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 5: and sure enough Antifa guys drove by and yelled and 545 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 5: screamed they were going to break the windows on every 546 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 5: car in that parking lot. Fast forward to January seventh, 547 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: they did what they did. We moved to a different 548 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 5: parking lot, so they were there, and so we met 549 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 5: in the morning at six o'clock with guys from the 550 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 5: Chicago Illinois Proud Boys. There was three percenters, so we 551 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 5: walked with them to see Trump speak, and you know, 552 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 5: true fashion. These elderly ladies said, can we walk with 553 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 5: you over there? She's like, I'm like, yeah, of course 554 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 5: you can't. She just thank you so much, and that 555 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 5: made me feel good because that, you know, people shouldn't 556 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 5: feel like that, right, I mean. 557 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean this is this is the United States of America. 558 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: We should be able to walk the streets if you're 559 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: young or older, no matter what race. I want to 560 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: jump forward just a little bit because we're pressed on time. 561 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: We're years out. 562 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: Now, we're years out, and people still have no idea 563 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: what happened. They look at mainstream media and that fiasco. 564 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: What's the biggest lie that's being pushed right now? 565 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 5: Well, birds and foremost, there was no plan insurrection or 566 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 5: coordinated attack, hands down, Now we see that there's been. 567 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 5: I think what they say about two hundred and twenty 568 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 5: five FBI either agents or confidential informants absolutely knew that 569 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 5: from the minute we got there, right because we were 570 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 5: right behind Rey Apps, Me and my buddy. Oh there 571 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 5: you go, here's an FBI informant again. 572 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: Whatever whatever happened to Ray Apps? 573 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 5: Right right, that's another example of what was going on 574 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 5: in a major conspiracy behind the scenes by the Biden administration. 575 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 5: You know, we as we walked up to the to 576 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 5: the Capitol, we were right behind him. We went, you know, 577 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 5: we were flying, had a camera in a flag pole. 578 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 5: I didn't yell, I didn't scream, I didn't touch anything. 579 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 5: I didn't go in the capitol. We left at the 580 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: last line when there was fighting between the officers and 581 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 5: the protesters. And then that video you show was on 582 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 5: the way out when Jacob Chansley walked by yelling freedom 583 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 5: and that guy that was fully covered, that guy with 584 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 5: the megaphone was covered from head to toe. And I 585 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 5: knew right away and when I filmed him, and afterwards, 586 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 5: I'm like, that's weird. That guy standing there by himself, 587 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 5: right there, and he's screaming at approaching Trump folks. Take 588 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 5: a picture, show the world. At one point thirty one, 589 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 5: these people were walking towards the Capitol. No one entered 590 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 5: the Capitol until about two oh five, I think. And 591 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 5: we were walking out from the capitol. Why was that 592 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 5: guy standing alone had his hair covered, wrapped with a 593 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 5: scarf of a hat, ear muffs, gloves. We couldn't see 594 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 5: his anything with color of his hair or anything. He 595 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: was there on purpose. You don't go there and do 596 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 5: that alone and scream into a megaphone telling people take pictures, 597 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 5: show the world what happened with those pictures? Right? How 598 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 5: many people got arrested? Lots of people got arrested because 599 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 5: of that. And you know what's interesting is, you know, 600 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 5: not in my sixties, and I haven't gotten any trouble 601 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 5: in thirty five years. And I ran a police foroy 602 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 5: out myself. I'm sorry, FBI foy in May. They had 603 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 5: three hundred and forty six pages on me, the FBI. 604 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 5: They said it's going to take four years to get 605 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 5: my boys back to me. Why this is under the 606 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 5: Trump administration? You know, I was subsequently put on a 607 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 5: domestic terrorists watch list. We saw that the Southern Poverty 608 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 5: Law Center they were investigating through Congress. Last week. Well, 609 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 5: an Antifa member for the Southern Poverty Law Center wrote 610 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 5: a story from Chicago, and then they started tagging the 611 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 5: FBI saying that I tried to overthrow the government. When 612 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 5: we asked mister Newson that no answer. They never even 613 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 5: talked to me. So after that story, after the Southern 614 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 5: Poverty Law Center and the antif guys started tagging the FBI. 615 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 5: Ten days later, I was suddenly on a domestic terrorists 616 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 5: watch list. 617 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: And you know, the narrative got set right away, like 618 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: within hours. Who was driving? That's what's behind that. And 619 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: you know the American people are were just exhausted and 620 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: we want accountability. We want to see some accountability over this. 621 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 5: They have to do that, right. I mean, I'm lucky. 622 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 5: You know that BI showed up to my house a 623 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 5: few years ago, Charmaine. I thought I was going to jail. 624 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 5: I didn't even go in, but I saw the horror stories. 625 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 5: They actually came because Antifa was threatened my life. That's 626 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 5: a whole different story. And then they go, oh, by 627 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 5: the way, we know you were at January sixth. Did 628 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 5: you go in? Did you hit any officers? Did you 629 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 5: destroy property? I go, guys, it's been two years. I 630 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 5: thought you were here for something else. He is, we 631 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 5: had to ask you. I go, I'm assuming you know 632 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 5: where everybody was. I had my phone. My friend had 633 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 5: his phone. He was a cook County sheriff. He had 634 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 5: his cookout of sheriff had on he just retired. You know, 635 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 5: we had no until we left. He goes, yeah, we 636 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 5: know that. We just wanted to ask you. But it's 637 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 5: kind of concerning and that you know, they they're able 638 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 5: to use whatever they did to investigate me or whatever 639 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 5: the document three hundred and forty six pages. I want 640 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 5: to know, and I hope you know, if anyone politics 641 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 5: their congressmen are watching, I think you guys would want 642 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 5: to know. This ties into the weaponization of your investigation 643 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 5: right now. You know, why did they do this? 644 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: They? 645 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank god Matt Gates saw the Epic Times stories 646 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 5: about it. Congressmen Mcgates in Congressman Troy Neil's both connected 647 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 5: with me. On their own. Matgates sent a demand letter 648 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 5: to Garland Ray and my Orcus, demanding to know why 649 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 5: did you do this? Because he's a vocal school board 650 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 5: dad or peacefully tended January sixth Garland Ray and my 651 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 5: Orcas all acknowledged the letter. They never got back to 652 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 5: Mtgates never, So you would think if they labeled an 653 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 5: American citizen as a terrorist, you would say he did X, 654 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 5: Y and Z. They never answered demand because I didn't 655 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 5: do anything. Troy Neils sent the tsa letter in my behalf. 656 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 5: They got back to him until Troy Well he no 657 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 5: longer fits the profile to have the privilege, the privilege 658 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 5: to be a TSA pre check. Where out of the 659 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 5: blue did that happen? From what did I do? I 660 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 5: didn't do anything wrong, right, I fly internationally for you know, 661 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 5: I mean, it was crazy that they did that. And 662 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 5: then they also labeled my my wife and children as 663 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 5: quad esses as we want to Charlie Kirkson. I got, yeah, 664 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 5: I got pictures of what you know, my wife was 665 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 5: and my kids were only fifty team. My daughter's an 666 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 5: Eagle Scout and they were VIP guests of Charlie, all 667 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 5: expenses paid, and they yet they pulled them out of line. 668 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 3: You know. 669 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 5: My wife was she hates the politics, right, and she 670 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 5: went because the kids were, you know, going to t 671 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 5: posa we want as a family, and we missed our 672 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 5: flights on the way out there. On the way back, 673 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 5: they checked my family twice. I got it all on camera, 674 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 5: you know. 675 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: And it's at the airport they did ohair. 676 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 5: And in a Phoenix, and I got to figure out 677 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 5: how to block their faces up because I you know, 678 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 5: I don't want to you know, my kids just started 679 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 5: college and my wife's upset. But you could see it 680 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 5: in their faces and stuff, and I'm really pissed off 681 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 5: at what they did. You know, they labeled my family. 682 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: That I'm sure. 683 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the cost personally to you and to so 684 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: many others have has been extraordinary. But when you look 685 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: at what the j six defendants have gone through and 686 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: how they've been treated, especially in jail, say, for example, 687 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: versus people who were burning buildings when they were saying, oh, 688 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: it's a mostly peaceful protest and cars are exploding in 689 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: the background. We only got about a minute left, Terry. 690 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: But does that make you angry? Oh? 691 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, ladies. So for instance, the Chicago the Chicago I Center, right, 692 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 5: I've been over there with Ben Burkwham and all those 693 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 5: guys and filming these people attacking ice. Right, Dick Durbin 694 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 5: was doing a press conference and I yelled at him, 695 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 5: I go, should these people attacking federal officers be treated 696 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 5: the same way as the ones from January sixth? I 697 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 5: got it on a camera. He looks at me, he 698 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 5: makes a face like, screw you, right. I mean, remember 699 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 5: how the uproar they said about all these people that 700 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 5: were in And I believe anyone that attacks law enforcement 701 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 5: should be punished. But these guys were being sent to 702 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 5: jail without a trial, and you know, multiple multiple years. 703 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 5: Here in Chicago, they're praising them. Matter of fact, they 704 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 5: want them to attack the Ice agents. They're federal officers 705 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 5: just like the other officers. The hypocrisy is disgusting, and 706 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 5: I hope, I hope someone's watching this that has the 707 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 5: ability to go and find out who put Terry Newsom 708 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 5: on a watch list and then once they get letters 709 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: from Congressman who had the authority to take them off. 710 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 5: It shouldn't be that easy to put someone on and 711 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 5: take them off a list. As an American citizen, I'd 712 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 5: like to know who did that and what's in those 713 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 5: three hundred and forty six pages that you guys documented 714 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 5: from me at sixty years old, when I didn't comment 715 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 5: any crimes. 716 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: Terry, thank you so much for sharing your story and 717 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: thank you for joining me. I hope you could come 718 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 1: back with better news. 719 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate it. 720 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: God bless don't go away everyone, We'll be right back. 721 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 4: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outsider, because it's 722 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 4: the outside is to change the world. 723 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 724 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 4: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 725 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 4: the outside is to change the world. 726 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 727 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: You know, in times like these, when the news is 728 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: so heavy and the world just feels like it's turned 729 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: upside down, we need voices that remind us where our 730 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: strength really comes from. And I always like to end 731 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: this Faith and Freedom show by filling your spirit back up, 732 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: and there's no better way to do that than with 733 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: Pastor Anthony Thomas from Tip of the Spirit Church. 734 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 2: He's a warrior for faith, a shepherd to his. 735 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: Community, and someone who always seems to have the exact 736 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: words that I need to hear. Take it away, Pastor Anthony. 737 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 6: Hello, Faith and Freedom warriors. I want to share an 738 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 6: experience with you that I had last night. Dear friend 739 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 6: of mine called me and told me that a friend 740 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 6: and someone i'd done ministry with for years and another 741 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 6: state was in hospice and on his way to entering 742 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 6: into eternity. And we called each other, called him last 743 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 6: night and we spoke and how of you know, when 744 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 6: you're at the very end of your life and at 745 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 6: your last conversation, you don't waste time with things that 746 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 6: were base We shared words of strength, words of encouragement 747 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 6: with one another, and then his final remark to me was, Pastor, 748 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 6: I love you. 749 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,959 Speaker 3: I'll see you in heaven. Boy. 750 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 6: It touched my heart. I got off the phone and 751 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 6: tears came out my eyes. And I want to encourage 752 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 6: you with this. Jesus said, rejoice for your name is 753 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 6: written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Twenty twenty six 754 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 6: is going to be an awesome year. Two and six 755 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 6: together is eight. Eight is the number of new beginnings. 756 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 6: It's going to be a year of great strength, a 757 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 6: year of great victory, and a year where we're going 758 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 6: to see the enemy defeated in massive ways. But I 759 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 6: want to encourage you of this. There is nothing more 760 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 6: powerful in this life than knowing where you are going 761 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 6: when you step from this life to the next. And 762 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 6: there's only one way to do that, and that is 763 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 6: through Jesus Christ. I want to pray for you, Father. 764 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 6: We thank you Lord that heaven is our destination. We're 765 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 6: in this life just a short amount of time, and God, 766 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 6: we have another year that's come to an end and 767 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,479 Speaker 6: another year that's about ready to dawn. I'm asking God 768 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 6: your presence would now move even right now to twenty 769 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 6: twenty six. Yet it be a year God of new beginnings, 770 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 6: a year of strength, a year God of great defeat 771 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 6: upon the enemy and great victories for heaven. God, we 772 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 6: thank you, and we thank you that you sent. 773 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: Your son Jesus to die for us. 774 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 6: God, if we have saving faith in him and we 775 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 6: call upon him, we will spend eternity with you and 776 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 6: with those who loved him in heaven. God bless you. 777 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 3: Love you guys, have a great year. 778 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 6: If you want to follow the messages, I'm going to 779 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 6: be doing a prophetic message, you may want to watch it. 780 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 6: Go on rumble put Tip of the Spirit Church, Naples, 781 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 6: or go Tip the Spirit Church dot org. God bless you, 782 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 6: Pastor Anthony out. 783 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, Pastor Anthony. 784 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: I needed to hear that today, such a powerful message, 785 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: and I wanted to let you guys know that coming 786 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: in in February, perhaps stay tuned ted and I might 787 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: be appearing at Pastor Anthony's Tip of the Spirit Church. 788 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: I just kind of suggested maybe Pastor Anthony needs a 789 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 1: worship leader, and I know this guitar player who could 790 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: be available. So I'll give you more details on that 791 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: coming soon. But you know, We've covered so much on 792 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 1: this show, some heavy stuff fentanyl and affecting families. In 793 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 1: January sixth, families and lives are torn apart and people 794 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: are left behind. And I think it's really important that 795 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: after conversations like that, we just need to breathe, We 796 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: just need to pause and let it all settle in. 797 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. We can't carry the weight of 798 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: the world on our shoulders alone. It's not our job. 799 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: That's God's job. And he tells us in Matthew eleven 800 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight, come to me all who are weary and burdened, 801 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: and I will get view rest. 802 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 2: Rest is not weakness. Rest is wisdom. 803 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: And when the world feels dark, and let's be honest, 804 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: some days it feels really dark. I can only imagine 805 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: what Steve Gruber went through when his friend's good friend's 806 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: son passed away. I mean, and we've all had to 807 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: experience deaths in our families, and sometimes it just feels 808 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: really dark. And faith is what pulls us through. Not 809 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: faith that everything's going to be easy, because God never 810 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: said that, but faith that we're not walking through it alone. 811 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: And I'm grateful, I really am. I'm grateful for this life. 812 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm grateful for my family. I'm grateful for everyone here 813 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: at Real America's Voice, Grateful to have the responsibility that 814 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: we have to talk, to be able to talk, to 815 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: speak truth, and to shine our light and to love 816 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: each other well, because that's a gift, and every single 817 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: day is a gift. And so I want to leave 818 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: you with hope today, not fear, because fear is Fear's 819 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: a liar, Fear keeps you paralyzed. Fear is not of God. 820 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: But hope. Hope is what gets you out of bed. 821 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: Hope is what makes you fight for what really matters. 822 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: Hope is what's saying that tomorrow can be better than today. 823 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: And sometimes all we can do is just put one 824 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: foot in front of the other, and that's good enough. 825 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: Especially you know, when we have those dark days, it's 826 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 1: okay to pause, take a deep breath. I know one 827 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: of my New Year's resolutions is going to be to 828 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: slow down. We're living in an age where you know 829 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: we're doing so much at the same time. You know 830 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: we're texting family and friends and you know, giving directions 831 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: or walking our dogs when we're not fully immersed. And 832 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: it's almost like when I talk about my dogs. They 833 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: know that I'm not fully immersed in what they're doing. 834 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm not paying full attention when I throw Jackson the ball, 835 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: and I'm still talking on the phone. One of my 836 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: New Year's resolutions is to let go of all that 837 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: and to just be present in every single moment. Take 838 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: more me time to rest. Rest is good. That's why 839 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: God wants to do that on the Sabbath, to take 840 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: a break. So, speaking of taking a break before we go, 841 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: you know I love a good laugh, So let's lighten 842 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: things up with some funny pet videos. 843 00:42:37,480 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 7: Take a look. 844 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 2: Post sit day. I'll see you over there. 845 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 6: As me sending in the mirror posa as day hanging 846 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 6: from day. 847 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: Did you love that as much as I did? 848 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: And I thank my producer Rodney for experiencing Saturday night 849 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: texts from me in the middle of the night. Not 850 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: middle of the night, but eleven o'clock at night is 851 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: when I watch these funny pet videos and I'll text 852 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: them we got to show this one. So thank you 853 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: for having patients, Rodney and everybody at Real America's Voice. 854 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: You know, we've got to lighten up. The world can 855 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: feel so heavy. And I've talked to a few friends, 856 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: especially during the holidays. We're all overwhelmed. And now we've 857 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: got a new year. So how are you going to 858 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: make this new year different? What are you going to 859 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: do differently? It's not about just losing ten pounds or 860 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: cutting out sugar or alcohol or whatever it is. I 861 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: think real lasting change. And one thing that I'm going 862 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: to do is I'm going to put down my phone 863 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: at night, at least two hours before I go to bed. 864 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm just going to shut it off. Nothing good happens 865 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,240 Speaker 1: after eight o'clock on your phone. You just mindlessly scroll, 866 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: and one minute leads into the next, into the next 867 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: and to the next. Do you notice that it's like 868 00:44:59,160 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: twenty minutes later. 869 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 2: And I hear Ted. 870 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: Ted's always listening to and watching car shows and watching 871 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: hunting things, and you know, it's kind of what they 872 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: call mindless. And we've really got to re engage our minds, 873 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: and these phones don't do it for us. So that's 874 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: one of my New Year's resolutions is too fast from 875 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: cell phones and social media and screens, big screens. You'll 876 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: sleep better, I know I do. When I cut it out, 877 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: cut out cell phone, use a couple hours before I 878 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: go to sleep. I sleep much better and my mind's 879 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: not constantly going. So one of my New Year's resolutions 880 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: right there. If you are looking to get healthier and 881 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: feel better, because that's really what it's all about, we can't. 882 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend, Tina Griffin. I got 883 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: to get her on the show, and she goes, you know, 884 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 1: we can't go across the finish line crawling. You know, 885 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: when our time is up here, we don't want to 886 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: be crawling across the finish line. We want to go 887 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: across the finish line going Yes, I'm strong, I'm healthy. 888 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: I want to be that type of person. So if 889 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: you want to be healthier and strengthen your faith at 890 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: the same time, I want to tell you about my book. 891 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: One of them is called Abundantly Well, it's a forty 892 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: day journey. Now it is a great time to start it. 893 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: Grab a couple of books, grab a couple of friends. 894 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: I promise you, in forty days, you will be a 895 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: healthier person. You're going to learn all my secrets. I 896 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: taught at zumba class the other day and I hadn't 897 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: seen a couple of the gals. I've been teaching Zumba 898 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 1: forever teaching group fitness for forty five years, and another 899 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: woman said, how is it that you don't age? How 900 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: is it that you're the same shape. I share all 901 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: my secrets in my books, but check out abundantly well. 902 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: It's a forty day journey to weight loss, more energy, 903 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: and vibrant health, all rooted. 904 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 2: In biblical wisdom. 905 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 1: I wrote it because, after more than forty five years 906 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: and fitness, I've learned that real wellness starts from the 907 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: inside out. I could write a diet book or just 908 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: an exercise book, but it's got to be mind, body, 909 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: and spirit. And this book will meet you right where 910 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: you're at. I'll walk alongside you no matter where you 911 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: are and your health and wellness journey. I'll be beside 912 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: you every step of the way, sharing biblical wisdom and 913 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: all the tips and tricks that I've learned forty five 914 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: years in the fitness industry. And if you're someone if 915 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: you or someone else is dealing with some unexplained illness, fatigue, 916 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: brain fog, please pick up my book Killer House. Toxic 917 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: mold almost killed me. I don't want that to happen 918 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: to you. Don't forget esther four fourteen. You were born 919 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: for such a time as this. I'll see you right 920 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: here next week. Thanks so much for joining me. 921 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 4: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 922 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 4: the outsiders to change the world. 923 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 2: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.