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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too, West Jeeler, Matt Williamson. It is our

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Speaker 2: number two of the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: on this.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, good evening evening, the five o'clock hours.

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Speaker 2: The evening is the evening, especially now, Matt, where we

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Speaker 2: are getting dangerously closer and closer to that time where

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Speaker 2: you and I are going to be driving home in

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Speaker 2: the dark.

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Speaker 3: Everage, Yeah, leaves are falling.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm going to do a little leaf scooping

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Speaker 4: this weekend, a bye week, you know, things like that.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna get the last the last lawnmow,

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Speaker 2: last grass cut this this weekend. Probably the same thing

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Speaker 2: with the twenty twenty five calendar year. Yes, certainly good.

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Speaker 4: Good bye week project too. Probably getting a haircut on

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Speaker 4: the bye week, you know, things like.

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Speaker 2: That, got mine hero yea yeah is our video producer

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Speaker 2: TV looks over there and rubs it is that that

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Speaker 2: issue rubs his buzz cut and Matt, what do you

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Speaker 2: say we do a little fantasy football focus here to

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Speaker 2: get us started at an hour number two, a little

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Speaker 2: stardom sid them from NFL dot com. Here some big

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Speaker 2: names with some tough matchups this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an interesting slate of games. And there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of injuries in the fantasy.

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Speaker 2: World, right, a lot of injuries as well.

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Speaker 4: And we also four teams on by I mean in

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Speaker 4: the fantasy world when you started hitting bi week injury

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Speaker 4: time and that's when the men become men, you know, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Exactly A J Brown against the Denver Broncos start.

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Speaker 4: Okay, my favorite. I'm not sure if I've referenced Matt

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Speaker 4: harmon On here with you, but he actually joined us

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Speaker 4: at the Combine. I've known Matt for a long time.

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Speaker 4: He works for Yahoo. He's a fantasy analyst, but he

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Speaker 4: also has a site reception Perception dot com. He is

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Speaker 4: widely regarded and I one hundred degree as the best

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Speaker 4: wide receiver expert.

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Speaker 2: I remember talking with him at the combine. I think

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Speaker 2: I might have been doing like an because you and

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Speaker 2: Dale would usually have a third person for like yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: sometimes it was Max, sometimes it was Mode, sometimes it

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Speaker 2: was me. I do feel like I was there when

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Speaker 2: you when you mentioned that reception perception. I feel like.

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Speaker 4: He's like your age because I grabbed him and I

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Speaker 4: talked on Twitter a million times and I grabbed him

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Speaker 4: at the first and he was super nice. She's like

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Speaker 4: I remember Matt Williamson back on the ESPN days when

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Speaker 4: I was a kid listening to you know, his podcast.

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Speaker 2: The young people at the combine who toot your horn

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Speaker 2: about how great.

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Speaker 3: I do remember. I do like people talking about the

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Speaker 3: ESPN podcast because there weren't many back then. But anyway, coincidentally,

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Speaker 3: I he did.

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Speaker 4: He's been doing a new thing on his site where

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Speaker 4: he's just breaking down three or four receivers per week,

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Speaker 4: you know, like and he he did a deep dive

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Speaker 4: on AJ Brown's first four games. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: you sit him because he stinks or anything like that,

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Speaker 4: but he AJ Brown has been a top three or

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Speaker 4: four guy for Matt for four or five years, an

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Speaker 4: unprecedented stretcher, being not quite Antonio Brown, but one of

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Speaker 2: Best for a long justin Jefferson, I mean so.

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Speaker 4: But he flat out says AJ Brown's not playing well.

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Speaker 4: You know that he is struggling. He is not getting

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Speaker 4: off pressman coverage, he's not being used.

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Speaker 3: The way he has been in the past. They're not

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Speaker 3: moving them around, and it sounds like he's publicly frustrated too.

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Speaker 3: I forget what he tweeted or something this week.

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Speaker 2: And he likes in a weird spot right now. He's

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Speaker 2: kind of doing the same thing he was doing this

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Speaker 2: time last year. Yeah, and I think I saw a picture.

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Speaker 2: As you know, I used to work for the Eagles

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Speaker 2: of ex Twitter buddies. You're still in that market. He

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Speaker 2: like hung up like a license plate above his locker

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Speaker 2: that said always open on the license plate. Just weird

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Speaker 2: stuff like that. You know, wide receivers are goofballs.

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Speaker 4: But he isn't playing to his normal level and he's

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Speaker 4: not producing to his normal level. And in the fantasy world,

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Speaker 4: when you draft an Eagle receiver, you know there's gonna

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Speaker 4: be a couple of weeks that they just run the.

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Speaker 4: So he's gonna get certained this week tough. I think

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Speaker 4: he's a big avoid. I mean, in this doesn't apply

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Speaker 4: regular redraft, I'm sure you're starting him. You don't have

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Speaker 4: a better option than aj Brown. Sure, but I'm not

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Speaker 4: paying up for him in DFS. I might even entertain

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Speaker 4: trade options, you know. I mean, if someone's gonna give

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Speaker 4: I'd get out. And that breaks my heart. I think

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Speaker 4: he's had an awesome career and I bet he bounces back.

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Speaker 2: I think so not this week, but maybe not this week.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough one. Yeah, another stardom sit them. This feels,

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Speaker 2: you know, pretty I don't. I don't know about obvious,

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Speaker 2: but how do you feel about Keenan Allen against the

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with the Chargers in general.

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Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson too could be in this conversation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, McConkie's been like the most disappointing receiver

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Speaker 4: People look at him like he's a prototypical Pickens metcalf

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Speaker 3: It's not what he plays.

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Speaker 4: He plays a lot more like debo and and Harbaugh's

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Speaker 4: Alan's the chain mover, and it's just not leaving much

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Speaker 4: do with the chargers. Is losing both tackles is such

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Speaker 4: a crippling blow? Are they gonna go They've been so

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Speaker 4: pass happy and nobody thinks about that with Harbaugh. Are

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Speaker 4: they just gonna go back to giving it to Hampton

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Speaker 2: Now and wait and see how they respond for that

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Speaker 2: tough loss in New York.

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Speaker 4: But I would be putting offers in from a conky too.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like he's too good to have one catch

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Speaker 2: I he's been on the bench for me the last

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Speaker 3: He used the second round pick on the guy you know.

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Speaker 2: Same Let's say the same game here the other side

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Speaker 2: of the the football field. Other sideline Deebo Samuel against

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Speaker 2: the Chargers. Terry mclaurin's out. Yes, okay, I.

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Speaker 3: Knew he was highly questionable and was expected to be.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not officially yet, but dealing with that quad injury

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Speaker 3: I expect him not to play. But Daniels is back.

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Speaker 2: And that was kind of my thought process that if

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Speaker 2: if Daniels is playing, Deebo Samuel, feels like time to

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Speaker 3: I wasn't big on him in the off season.

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Speaker 4: I just think that there's so many receivers had him

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Speaker 4: pretty down my list, but he's been better than expected

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Speaker 3: I mean, they have a good plan for him.

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Speaker 4: They're getting the ball into him space, he's running people over.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I would start him with confidence.

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Speaker 2: Here's the sidam portion of this exercise from NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 3: But they had a J brown as a start them.

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Speaker 2: They had a J. Browns to start them.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, they're playing the Broncos right, they are playing

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Speaker 3: the bran I couldn't disagree more. I would not been

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Speaker 2: I was. I was surprised. Their kind of thought was

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Speaker 2: like they have to keep their star receiver happy and

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Speaker 3: I get the squeaky wheel thing. But it's a tough matchup.

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Speaker 2: Very tough matchup. I don't want to start anybody against

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Speaker 2: patzer Tape, uh Sid Brian Thomas Chews or.

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Speaker 3: One other Eagles. Note.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't mention because so we've done a lot of work.

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Speaker 4: You and I have talked a bunch about rushing yards

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Speaker 4: before first contact, and like it got way better for

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Speaker 4: the Steelers this past year this past week, well the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: Last year they were like four yards lable. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Barkley had more yards before first contact over the course

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Speaker 4: first contact. This year they're really struggling. I mean, that

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Speaker 4: old line is not where it used to be. So i'

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Speaker 2: Their offensive line is taking a step back this year.

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Speaker 2: He had his injuries, some injuries. Lane Johnson is getting

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Speaker 4: Dickerson shouldn't be out there. And he's a great player,

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Speaker 4: but he shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Be out there, you know. Just don't assume that their

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Speaker 2: No. And again, as I've said to you, I mean

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Speaker 2: my wife is from Philadelphia. My in laws are all

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Speaker 2: die hard Eagles fans. I worked in that market for

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Speaker 2: three years, so I've got a lot of friends there.

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Speaker 2: And despite the four and oh start, they are not

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Speaker 2: like all sunshine and rainbows.

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Speaker 3: No, No, they got some concerns.

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Speaker 2: Although, to be fair, unless they win the championship, They're

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Speaker 2: never sunshine and rainbows in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: They're champagne problems. Mean they're gonna be okay?

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Speaker 2: Yes, uh Sidham Brian Thomas against the Brian Thomas Junior

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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. I'm starting to get to the play.

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Speaker 2: He's another one that I got, along with Live Mconkey,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he is not fit well in this offense, and

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Speaker 4: I think Jacksonville has been a very pleasant surprise as

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Speaker 4: a team. Yeah, the offense is still uneven. Lawrence is

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Speaker 4: still uneven.

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Speaker 3: I dug it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, in the fantasy world, I couldn't have invested

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Speaker 4: more in Travis Hunter, and that is not working out

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Speaker 4: only way Hunter would be relegated to not being great

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Speaker 4: in fantasy as if Thomas just blew him away as

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Speaker 4: a number one. And he's not either. I mean, strange

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Speaker 4: has been kind of interesting. They run the ball really

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Speaker 4: well that they do. Yeah, I mean Lawrence hasn't been

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Speaker 4: sacked yets this year. It started that today for the

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Speaker 4: first time.

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Speaker 2: Like really, wow, impressive Stefan Diggs at Buffalo, his former team.

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Speaker 4: I invested heavy in him, and I am putting him

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Speaker 4: in the lineup for sure. I love where May is.

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Speaker 2: He just had his best week as a Patriot, Like he.

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Speaker 4: Really looks healthy for the first time. He was absolutely featured.

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Speaker 4: Like remember we broke down Steels Patriots, Like a bunch

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Speaker 4: Right and the defense is adjusted by that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'd.

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Speaker 2: Sit everybody on that offense not named Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Higgins. If you're you might not have

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Speaker 4: But I'm not buying him in DFS if I'm like,

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Speaker 2: Over this week.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. It's a way different, different, better situation.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that game, but I think they lose

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Speaker 3: All your Rams.

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Speaker 4: The Niners pass rush minus Bosa has been non existent.

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Speaker 4: I just expect Stafford tonight just sitting there patting it.

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Speaker 3: Every Niner just keeps getting scratched, tough.

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Speaker 2: Rolling along here on the Drive on a Thursday, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's a terrible time for the Niners to

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Speaker 4: Think the Shanahan h McVeigh knowledge of one another, Harbaugh, Tomlin,

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Speaker 2: The closed half time than you expect.

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Speaker 4: But Niners can't run the ball, they can't rush the passer.

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Speaker 4: They got backups everywhere they're so injured. I mentioned I

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Speaker 4: I would rest everybody lose by a million.

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Speaker 2: Take one, just.

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Speaker 4: Take one, watching right right right, because we get ready

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, they're in trouble. I think.

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Speaker 2: So you're confident laying the eight and a half with

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Speaker 4: The big number just keeps going up. But yes, I

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Speaker 2: Them unless it gets to double digits. I'm gonna lay

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's I think the Vikings are much better

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Speaker 3: I think they keep it close.

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Speaker 3: Right right, I'm not afraid.

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Speaker 4: I think Indy is a legit playoff team. Raiders zoh

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, I am with you with everything you

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Speaker 4: I think they're one of the most pleasant surprises in

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Speaker 3: Sorry, there's two real stinkers other.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get a lot of time on Red Zone.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean no elite Neighbors. I mean

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Speaker 2: He's a star. He's so much fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: Of the years, like this bad Mojo bad.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna give me points in that game, I'll

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Speaker 2: I think I'm with you. I just I think the

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Speaker 2: And I'm getting a point and a half. I'll do it.

442
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 2: I'll take it. What could be another ugly one. The

443
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 2: Jets are back home, still looking for their first win

444
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 2: of the season. The Cowboys are fresh off of their

445
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,760
Speaker 2: Sunday Night football tie with the Green Bay Packers. Dallas

446
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,120
Speaker 2: at MetLife Dallas two and a half point favorites.

447
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 4: So I'm convinced Dallas games are gonna be like Bengals

448
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 4: games last year.

449
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 2: It's just score forty to win and then you might

450
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 2: lose or tie.

451
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 4: Anyways, sixty to seventy to eighty points a game they're

452
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 4: gonna he scored. And I just don't think that's how

453
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 4: the Jets are built. I don't think that's their style game,

454
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 4: you know. I don't think they go back and forth

455
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 4: blow for blow against Dak Prescott.

456
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 3: I'll take the Cowboys.

457
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: This is another one of those what do you got

458
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 2: to hang your hat on? For me? And I know

459
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 2: that Dak is a top ten quarterback in the league

460
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 2: right now.

461
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 3: Playing like a top five one, playing like a.

462
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,199
Speaker 2: Top five to one maybe even right now. And I

463
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 2: know that that Dallas offense is good enough, yep, even

464
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,400
Speaker 2: without Ceedee Lamb. They're still good enough. They'll score some points.

465
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

466
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 4: I'm a little worried with sauce on Pickens. Who else

467
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 4: does stuff? You know, we just saw that Steeler Park point.

468
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: See Lamb there, they can really kind of focus on

469
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: George Pickens. But I think Dallas can find a way

470
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 2: to win that by three or four.

471
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're scoring everybody.

472
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: I think so too. I'll lay the two and a

473
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Speaker 2: half with you.

474
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 3: I thought the Jets Cowboys I did as well.

475
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 2: I just and again remember that justin Field stat Owen

476
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 2: twenty five. When his team gives up more than twenty.

477
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 3: Points, they're gonna get it more than twenty points.

478
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,959
Speaker 2: Really good one in Philly Broncos at Eagles. That's one

479
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: o'clock as well to.

480
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 3: Uh, E hate that one o'clock in Philly and nasty enough.

481
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: That's awful. But what's the spread in that one?

482
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 2: Philly three and a half point favorites.

483
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 4: I thought it was over three. I'll take the I'll

484
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 4: take the points. I think den Vers Deke keeps that close.

485
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,719
Speaker 3: On the ball. This I hate going to Philly from

486
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: her west coast.

487
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 2: This strikes me is that the Eagles do what they do,

488
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 2: and they find a way they kick a field goal

489
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 2: or something win or they block one or something at

490
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 2: the end, but they win by three. Yeah, so I'll

491
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 2: take the three and a half me too. I I

492
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: to me, that is one of those I think Vegas

493
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: is spot on with that line, and I will take

494
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: the points with the Broncos. But the Eagles find a

495
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 2: way to win an ugly one.

496
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 4: So I mentioned earlier that Miles Garrett is playing out

497
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 4: of his mind, and I as good as he has been,

498
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 4: and I trust me, if you do this now, you're

499
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 4: part of the show in full time. If you bring

500
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 4: him up and say aything nice about you, the whole

501
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,239
Speaker 4: town wants to egg your house. I mean, he's like

502
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 4: the biggest enemy main Street. He's so good right now

503
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 4: that he be my defensive MVP. But the close runner

504
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 4: up is Nick Benito. No one even knows who that is. Maybe,

505
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 4: I mean, he is such.

506
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 2: A contract from the Broncos this offseason.

507
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 3: I just want to mention his name because he is

508
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: a problem.

509
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has been an under the radar problem for

510
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: like a year and a half now, but I don't

511
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: think that that's gonna last much longer. If he keeps

512
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: playing the way that the defense is really good, very good.

513
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: Miami at Carolina. The weather might not be ugly, but

514
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: the play on the field will be there. In Charlotte,

515
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: Miami a one and a half point favorite.

516
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: I'll take the point.

517
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: This is one I would stay away from.

518
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 4: I will watch this game and the Giant Saints game.

519
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 4: So little alive. I think Bryce Young might be on

520
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 4: the vergi getting benched again.

521
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 2: He might be.

522
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: I mean, Dalton's Dalton. You can maybe win a couple

523
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 4: more games without him. It's kind of like this, the

524
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 4: Giant Saints game. It's a bad game. Just give me points.

525
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 2: Man. They once had Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold on

526
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 2: that roster.

527
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: Did the Donald's lightning to Carolina Panthers?

528
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: Did did you see that?

529
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: From?

530
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: From Baker Mayfield when he was asked about that, Like

531
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: he was asked in his press conference this past week,

532
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: something along the lines of, like you and Sam spent

533
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: time together in Carolina. You know, now you're both having success.

534
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: That's what it was, you know, after after after having success,

535
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 2: and you know, do you guys ever, you guys ever

536
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: look back on that time fondly? You know, anything like

537
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: the Baker was like, look back on that time. No, Terri,

538
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: that's like what he said. He's like, that was a

539
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: terrible time. But I'm happy for Sam and you know

540
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and we will get Yeah, we will

541
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: get to that one here in just a minute. But

542
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty funny. Baltimore hosting Houston. Two

543
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: desperate teams. Still a lot of unknown around Lamar Jackson's status.

544
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: I don't think he is weeks. Yeah, I think I

545
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: think you're right on that, Houston, Matt They've given up

546
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: the least points in the league by far, by far,

547
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: and there's still one in three. Did they continue but

548
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: they they, you know, blew out Tennessee last week a

549
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: box that they needed to check. Does Houston continue to

550
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: kind of get back to it or could Baltimore maybe

551
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: draw a line in the sand and say, you know,

552
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: we're not going quietly into the night. Houston's a two

553
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite in Baltimore. What was the

554
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: last time we saw someone the favorite in Baltimore?

555
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 4: So one of these team's gonna be one in four

556
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: and since two thousand, one in four teams go to

557
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 4: the playoffs seven percent of.

558
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: It's barring a miracle. Your season's over whichever team loses

559
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: this game.

560
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 4: I think Baltimore could get back in the mix easier

561
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 4: than Houston if they were one and four. But it's

562
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 4: a nightmare from a Ravens perspective. At least you're gonna

563
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 4: prepare for Rush, you know, all week as opposed they

564
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 4: don't get thrown in the mix and looking terrible. At

565
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 4: least you can prepare all week as Rush as your

566
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 4: starter and play accordingly. You're not gonna have a design

567
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: quarterback runs and lamar stuff, and it'll be malpractice if

568
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: they don't run Henry fifty million times. Yeah, I mean

569
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 4: if it goes nowhere, you know, and he has not

570
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 4: got a workload hardly at all this year, So I

571
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 4: would think you should be able to at least accomplish that.

572
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: I just think what worries me more maybe is the

573
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 4: Ravens defense. It's one of the worst in the league

574
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 4: against brun one of the worst league against the pass.

575
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 4: And I know the Texans O line is bad, but

576
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 4: Stroud and Nico and Woody Marx is now the running back.

577
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: I don't love picking a road favorite in Baltimore, no

578
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 4: matter who their dressing, but I'm going to reluctantly.

579
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: I think the Texans defense is the difference. Yes, I

580
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: just don't think Baltimore is going to be able to

581
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 2: do much against them, and that will lead to a

582
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 2: low scoring, kind of sloppy, ugly win for Houston. If

583
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: that numbers at three and a half, I'm taking the

584
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: points in Baltimore at two and a half, I'll lay

585
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: them with Houston.

586
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.

587
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: Arizona in a weird spot as well too. They're hosting

588
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: the Titans, still looking for their first win. That one,

589
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: four oh five pm at State Farm Stadium in Arizona.

590
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: The Cardinals seven and a half point favorites. It's a

591
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: big number.

592
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: I know. I hate the.

593
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: Titans are They're thirty two out of thirty two right

594
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: now in the league.

595
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 3: But I can't big number.

596
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: I can't take the Titans. There's too much wrong. But

597
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 4: I wouldn't bet the game. I mean to me, it

598
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: being over seven is. I hate that part of it,

599
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 4: and that's exactly why it's there. But I don't think

600
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 4: they'll block Arizona's front. I think Kyler's way ahead of

601
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 4: Ward at this point. Harrison started to, you know, really

602
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 4: step it up this past week. McBride's a really good player.

603
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 4: There's just Tennessee so bad they are.

604
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but I wouldn't. The number is right

605
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: where it should be.

606
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: It is right where it should be. I'm tempted to.

607
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: I think take the points and you know, Tennessee gets

608
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: some kind of garbage time touchdown at the end of

609
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: the back door cover. That's where I'm leaning right now.

610
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: But I agree with everything that you said.

611
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: Arizona lost both there running backs.

612
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: Both are running backs. Benson and Connor both out, so

613
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: hey fantasy fantasy reasons. Could be a big week for

614
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: McBride and and Marvin Harrison Junior. So uh Seattle matt

615
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: Another four H five game here, Seattle hosts Tampa Bay.

616
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: This is one of the more interesting great games. This

617
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: is a two top ten teams in the NFL right

618
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: now type game, Seattle three and a half point favorites

619
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: at home.

620
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 4: What shocks me is I thought Seattle's d would be

621
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: one of the best, and it is. But their offense

622
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: is at the top of League two right now explosives.

623
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 4: They're running the ball pretty well. Darnold's playing great. I

624
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: thought he would come back to earth to some degree,

625
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 4: I didn't think he turned to a pumpkin playing great.

626
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: Seattle does not have the home field advantage people think.

627
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 4: But Tampa to Seattle, I mean like that, that's.

628
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: One of the furthest flights you can make. Yeah, in

629
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 2: the in the NFL.

630
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 4: I'll take the points and what I think could be

631
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 4: one of the best, most entertaining games of the week.

632
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: So you'll take Tampa Bay plus three and a half.

633
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: Because it's over three. Yeah, Tampa's good.

634
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: Tampa's very good. Yeah, even despite being banged up on offense. Man,

635
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: this is another one of those. If it's four and

636
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: a half, I'm taking Tampa three and a half. I

637
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: think I'm still with you. I think I'll take the

638
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: points with Tampa. Yeah, that's a tough flight.

639
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: Oh Yeah, that's not an easy situation at all.

640
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: That's a that's a that's a very I mean, I

641
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: think the only further flight you can get in the

642
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: NFL is Seattle to Miami. From Miami is the only

643
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: further the only further road trip that you can make.

644
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: Even like New England, Arizona's not as far right right.

645
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: Right, Cincinnati at home for twenty five hosting Detroit, one

646
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: of the bigger road spreads you'll ever see for a

647
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: road favorite ten and a half points. The Lions are

648
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: favored by I.

649
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: Don't think it's big enough because the way the Lions

650
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: are constructed, and it's a Dan Campbell thing. They blow

651
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: teams out, they do. I mean like there's some teams

652
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: like the Chiefs that were at the season.

653
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: They blew out the Packers and the Commanders. Yeah, they

654
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: blew out the Bears.

655
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they they take back.

656
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: Sorry they got blown out.

657
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: They got a big part of Packers didn't go their way.

658
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: But they have a history of the last couple of

659
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: years when they play a bad team, they win by thirty,

660
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 4: you know. And I think that's exactly what Cincinnati is,

661
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: is they really bad team.

662
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Speaker 2: That's a great call by you. I was nervous about

663
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: that number, but you're absolutely right. The Lions blow out.

664
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: They regularly blow out bad teams.

665
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Speaker 3: They do. They don't they'll keep the foot of the

666
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Speaker 3: accelerator down, going down, right right.

667
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great call by you.

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00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: Give to MONTGOMERYO have two and fifty yards between them.

669
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Speaker 2: Because that's more like not like twelve and a half

670
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: or thirteen and a half.

671
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: What since he's fan base going to be like at

672
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 4: halftime if they're losing twenty to nothing and they can't

673
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: even like get a first.

674
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: Down, crying in their skyline Shay. The Chargers hosting the Commanders.

675
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: This is another intriguing one, especially if Daniels's back. Washington's

676
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: at that point now where they got to start stacking

677
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: some wins. Chargers coming off a loss that's going to

678
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: tick them off at MetLife last week against the Giants,

679
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: Chargers two and a half point favorites at home.

680
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: At home again, talk about this the fantasy segment. Their

681
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: tackle situation has me really in limbo for.

682
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: The worst in the league right now, from maybe the

683
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: best to maybe the worst exactly.

684
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Speaker 4: And that's a the worst position for that to happen,

685
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: except for quarterback. But I have a lot of but

686
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: they were so promising before that, and I trust Harbaugh,

687
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Speaker 4: I trust Herbert.

688
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: I love that it's at home.

689
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: They're not going across the country for a one o'clock

690
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: start or any of that nonsense.

691
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Speaker 3: And I don't know that Washington can take advantage of

692
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: that tackle. Their edge guys aren't great, you know, they

693
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: don't know these stertling pass rushers. I guess I'll take

694
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: the Chargers, but I don't feel strong about it. That's

695
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: kind of a coin flip for me at that At

696
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: that line.

697
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna lay the points with the Chargers.

698
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: Daniel's gonna have to knock some rust off. I don't

699
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: know what they expect from after being out for a

700
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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 3: He didn't blow me away in week one or two

702
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: when he was out there, right, I'm.

703
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: Not worried about it the same here, but I would

704
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: I would echo that sentiment. I think just at home,

705
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: Harball gets those guys hunkered down, finds a way to

706
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: get it done. Not pretty, but by more than two

707
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: and a half. Yeah, they can win by three, four,

708
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: something like that.

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00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: They'll have a good game plan for Daniels, They'll keep

710
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: them pretty wrapped.

711
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: I'll lay the points there with the Chargers. Finally, Matt

712
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: Sunday Night football, the Buffalo Bills host the New England

713
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: Patriots for an AFC East clash, one that has gone

714
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: Buffalo's web. I mean most divisional clashes there have gone

715
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: Buffalo's way for a long time, particularly at home. They

716
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: are seven and a half point favorites at Orchard Park

717
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: against the Patriots.

718
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: I thought this would be closer to ten.

719
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: At that number, I thought two would be nine and

720
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: a half ten.

721
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still taking New England though. Yeah, I'm so

722
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: in on Drake May. And I was listening to a

723
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: great podcast today that was really breaking down Patriot x'es

724
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: and o's and how impressed they are with McDaniels the

725
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator.

726
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: Of how he's melded. Is that a word, I'll use

727
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: that a lot.

728
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: Okay, the Brady stuff that he used to do with

729
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: the Cam Newton stuff he used to do in New

730
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 4: England and Drake May is that doesn't mean he's Tom

731
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: Brady and Cam Newton wrapped into one, but he's a

732
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: perfect blend of the two that he has so much

733
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 4: his disposal offensive coordinator wise, because all the stuff he

734
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: did with Newton as a runner and a physicality and

735
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 4: all the smart stuff Brady did. He doesn't do it

736
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: as well as either. But they're hard to play against

737
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: on offense and the defensive line gets after you a

738
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: little bit. I just think the Bill's defense is being

739
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 4: slept on for how bad it is.

740
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: Like they're a great team defense needs.

741
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: Some defenses are very good.

742
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: It's not melted to blend or to combine good.

743
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 4: Okay, That's how I've used it, and always it comes

744
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: out of my mouth. I'm like, I'm not sure I

745
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: used that right.

746
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: Example of a sentence. Australia's wine makers have melted modern

747
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: science with traditional art.

748
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: Huh.

749
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: Okay, look at you.

750
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: We're Meldon cam Newton and Tom Brady.

751
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: Those seven years of creative writing a pitch to Johnstown

752
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: or paying off partner. This to me, I'm laying the

753
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: points of Buffalo. Okay, I agree with everything that you said.

754
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: Their defense is going to give up points. I'm with

755
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: you in terms of Drake May, I think is going

756
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: to be a very good quarterback. I think New England

757
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: is starting to move in the right direction under Rable.

758
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: But I think this one means a lot to Buffalo.

759
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: For decades and decades, they got pushed around by the Patriots.

760
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 2: The last time they're ever going to host them there

761
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: at Orchard Park before that stadium goes away this year.

762
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: And I bet they look at New England in the

763
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: division like, if anyone's going to catch us in the

764
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: next couple of years, let's squash a little brother in

765
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: the each gets bigger than me, exactly right, Like.

766
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: This is one that even though the Bills, you know,

767
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: in this Josh Allen post, Tom Brady now Josh Allen era,

768
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: they've had the very clear upper hand in this rivalry.

769
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: Sure they want to continue to make sure it's that way.

770
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: Little brother's starting to lift weights and look a little.

771
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: Better, especially on Sunday Night football. The last time we're

772
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: going to host these guys in our.

773
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: State environment, people jumping through tables, and.

774
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Speaker 2: You know that they only have one one o'clock home

775
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: game at Orchard Park this year. I was talking to

776
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Speaker 2: one of my buddies from college, is from Rochester, New York,

777
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: so he's a big Buffalo Bills fan, and he took

778
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: his two daughters to the game last week and he

779
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: was like, I had to take him to that one

780
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: because it's the only one o'clock start all season. He's like,

781
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: all the rest of our home games are or thirty

782
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: or night games or Monday night.

783
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: Get take Bill's night game.

784
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: No, no chance, no chance.

785
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: Little parenting tip for you guys, Yes.

786
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: That's an environment I would like to avoid. Yeah, and

787
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: especially it's pretty soon they're gonna be pretty stinking cold

788
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: as well too, right, But a great place to h

789
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: to go see a football game for sure, if you're

790
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: if you're of proper age to experience the environment. Yes,

791
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: So that's our Week five thoughts across the slate of

792
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: the NFL. We'll come back on the other side. Put

793
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Speaker 2: a bow on this thing, West Shooler, Matt Williamson. It

794
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

795
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: Audio Network, your tunes.

796
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

797
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

798
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: Final segment of the Drive here and Matt, some interesting

799
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: news coming across the timeline. The NFL appears to perhaps

800
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: have fixed concerns with their kickoff after a major overhaul

801
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: and and you know some some minor tweaks as well

802
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: to major overhaul a year ago and some minor dynamic

803
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: kickoffs and then some minor tweaks this year. Teams have

804
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: returned through the first four weeks of the season seventy

805
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: eight point three percent of kickoffs. That's the highest rate

806
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 2: over that period in nineteen years the NFL has seen

807
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: so far through four weeks five hundred and nineteen kickoff returns.

808
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: That's the most through four weeks in the history of

809
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: the league.

810
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: So two training camps ago spent so much time talking

811
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: about the dynamic kickoff.

812
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got it all figured out. What's everybody gonna do?

813
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: It's the story of the lifetime.

814
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: Then you go through the whole year and it's like

815
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: stinks not not, I mean it really it's different, but

816
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: it didn't really matter much. I mean, you don't have

817
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 4: to dedicate great resources to kickoff this camp. I don't

818
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 4: know if we brought up the new kickoff rules once

819
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 4: and they made a ton of difference and I love

820
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: them and the kickoffs matter again, so that is super cool.

821
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 4: They have fixed it. I think it's the best thing

822
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 4: you could do. I have one complaint is you can't

823
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 4: do surprise on sides, but oh.

824
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: Well, I'm with you on that, But I do I

825
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: think they have found the sweet spot here.

826
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 3: Yes, kickoffs matter.

827
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: Kickoffs matter the field position, I think overall, and I

828
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: don't have the exact numbers on this, but is better

829
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: for the offenses?

830
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: Yes, what's the offense needs that help?

831
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: Needs that help? And we all know, like if Arthur

832
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: Motes were sitting right here, he'd be banging the table. Yeah,

833
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: everything we legislated in the league is for the offense. Yeah,

834
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: that's the way it is.

835
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: It's because the lines are as good as D line.

836
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: The lines are as good as D lines, and people

837
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: like to see points as well too. As much as

838
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: people talk about.

839
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: Smatters and fantasy football, and.

840
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: Only pitt fans want to watch a thirteen to nine game,

841
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: nobody else wants to. And so yeah, I think that

842
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: this is good news.

843
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: They did a good thing. I think they made the

844
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 3: sport better.

845
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: I think they found the sweet spot. Last year, it

846
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: was not the impact that we many of us anticipated,

847
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: not just us on Steelers Nation Radio throughout training camp,

848
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: but I think everybody around.

849
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: The football world didn't change the world much.

850
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: But this year, with some of the tweaks, with some

851
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: of the you know, thirty five yard line instead of

852
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: the twenty five yard line, big difference. Blast, You're you're

853
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: You're making teams put the ball in play more, which

854
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 2: is good. Now. I think the next step of this,

855
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: Matt is I think now that there's been a real

856
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: baseline and an over of over a year of sample size,

857
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: I think we'll start seeing some more explosive returns. Eventually

858
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 2: off exists. I think that's kind of the next step.

859
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: And I also think teams will be more open to

860
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 4: keeping the Devin Hester return specialist types as opposed to

861
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 4: Dante too. Throw Caleb Johnson back there and see if

862
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: he's any good at it, you like, I think teams

863
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 4: will be like, I'm gonna use a six round pick

864
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 4: on the one hundred and eighty pound guy that runs

865
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: a four to two that can fly.

866
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: Especially. This is the final piece of this. Since this

867
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: is working, since this is sticking on in the NFL,

868
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: I gotta think it's only a matter of time before

869
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: we see this in college football as well too.

870
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: No.

871
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: Probably, yeah, And when that's the case, then I think

872
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: you'll really have the specialist guys because they'll start to

873
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: develop and show their skill set in college.

874
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: But space players in college have existed more so three archers. No, yeah,

875
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: there's all.

876
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: That space and people are slower, you know, like you

877
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 4: can find those guys exist. That's the league just didn't

878
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 4: want them because they're tiny and I can't use them

879
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 4: on offense.

880
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: Didn't have a three archer reference on my Bengo car today.

881
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Speaker 2: But right, that's a good way to shut it down.

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