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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, our number three A wild and crazy day underway.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to discuss with all of you.

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Speaker 2: If you've just gotten in your car, buckle up. You

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Speaker 2: probably have no idea what has happened in the first

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Speaker 2: two hours of the program so far. Actually breaking news

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Speaker 2: again during the commercial break, the FED has raised interest

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Speaker 2: rates another quarter of a point. This was expected, but

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Speaker 2: this brings the federal interest rate level to a twenty

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Speaker 2: two year high.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: As the battle to try and decrease inflation is ongoing,

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Speaker 2: according to the FED, this will make in theory, all

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Speaker 2: borrowing costs more expensive. The hope is that this will

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Speaker 2: be the last FED raise. And as I am looking

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Speaker 2: right now, Buck, it appears that this, this statement by

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Speaker 2: the FED and the action has basically totally unmoved the markets.

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Speaker 2: In other words, this was the expected outcome and there

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Speaker 2: does not seem to be a move occurring very substantial

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Speaker 2: to one direction or the other. I would say one

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Speaker 2: minor negative that will come out of this is that

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Speaker 2: there was some hope the FED might indicate, hey, this

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Speaker 2: is going this we expect this to be our last

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Speaker 2: raise of the interest rates. There has not been that statement,

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Speaker 2: so the possibility of continuing to raise interest rates is

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Speaker 2: still out there as a part of future probability and

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Speaker 2: or discussion. All right, that just happened. Now what has

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Speaker 2: happened in the first two hours? And Buck, you're shaking

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Speaker 2: your head because you're I mean, even trying to explain

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Speaker 2: this is wild. If you're listening on the podcast, you

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Speaker 2: know enjoy. By the way, it's going to be an

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Speaker 2: hour long interview I did with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 2: I talked with him yesterday. So if you are at

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Speaker 3: And if you are listening to the podcast in.

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Speaker 2: Those first couple of hours, you will hear a pretty

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Speaker 2: wild first couple of hours that includes buck the expectation

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Speaker 2: that the Hunter Biden plea agreement had fallen apart, then

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Speaker 2: the report that the Hunter Biden plea agreement was back on,

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Speaker 2: and then find a a assertion that the Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: plea agreement had in fact fallen apart, and that there

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Speaker 2: had been a not guilty plea entered by Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 2: and that today's court hearing, which was expected by most

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Speaker 2: to be a rubber stamping of the sweetheart deal that

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden had worked out with Joe Biden's Department of Justice,

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Speaker 2: it was considered to be unacceptable by the judge in

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Speaker 2: this case, who we've been telling you for weeks the

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Speaker 2: law supported her not accepting this plea, and at least

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Speaker 2: for now she has said I cannot in good conscience

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Speaker 3: Said, it was like you were watching it as though

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Speaker 3: it was the Kentucky Derby and you would bet all

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Speaker 3: your money on one horse, and it was there were

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Speaker 3: plea deal doesn't, and it was a photo finish, and

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Speaker 3: there were numerous changes here in what the reality was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I still now back. The first thing I

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Speaker 3: and it ain't over till it's over. We got to

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Speaker 3: see what they end up doing here. So now they're

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Speaker 3: going into another negotiating phase. Now maybe Hunter and his

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Speaker 3: the last hour I think really tracks, which is what

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Speaker 3: But I mean, if you don't get a special counsel,

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Speaker 3: do not believe Merrick Garland at this point will appoint

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what I said on the show was I belie

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Speaker 2: and that's what Chris Christy just said. I'd encourage you

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Speaker 2: Christie a lot of credit. He wanted to come on

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Speaker 2: the best almost in the entire Republican Party to discuss

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Speaker 2: that a special counsel is likely. Here's the challenge and

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Speaker 2: here's why the Hunter Biden fix could still be in

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Speaker 3: First of all, who is it? Who is it? What's

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Speaker 3: the timeline, what's the final dispensation of it? Remember, there

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Speaker 3: a that Biden special counsel is doing nada. Okay, it's

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Speaker 3: a joke. It was just for the optics of it.

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Speaker 2: People who forgotten in the Biden classified documents case. There

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Speaker 2: the Biden classified document case. And we've heard nothing about it.

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Speaker 2: And I can assure you I mean this, I would

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Speaker 3: He didn't mean to. And no harm, no foul for

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Speaker 3: And now I just think that what they're hoping happens

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Speaker 3: the scrutiny on this is now much higher. People are

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Speaker 3: all to Clay. This was going to be a news story. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there are people there. If this plea deal was accepted,

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Speaker 3: I have to wonder, I mean, they if they do

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Speaker 3: turns into delay. But if they do something where all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in a tough spot. So again, I always

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Speaker 2: and that's how you end up with a sweetheart deal.

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Speaker 2: The prosecutor was actually in concert in many ways with

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Speaker 2: So I would say a special council is likely now.

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Speaker 2: And the problem with the special council is it probably

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Speaker 2: means there's no resolution until after the election. Right, I

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Speaker 2: a lot lot of people miss this. With a special council,

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Speaker 2: without the agreements of the Attorney General, Mary.

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Speaker 3: The son of the president. That's what happens to actually

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Speaker 2: So you could end up with a situation though if

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Speaker 2: That's what we've now created potentially, this dynamic. Now it's

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Speaker 2: right now. But the challenge is the timing. And also now,

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Speaker 2: if you're representing Hunter Biden, let's pretend that you are

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't want to be You wouldn't be want to

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Speaker 2: But also, Buck, you're in the position of you feel

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Speaker 3: We're not going to get prosecuted. But what really happened here, Clay,

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Speaker 3: You know, there's the legal approach to it, which I

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Speaker 3: this is the process working. Hunter Biden and his defense

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Speaker 3: team had thought and really had been given a get

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Speaker 3: this is too gross. I can't be a part of

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Speaker 3: this is. But they were negotiating with a prosecution where

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Speaker 3: everybody knew Joe Biden's son. This is the way we're

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, clan Buck here. We've got former Governor

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, Fellas, happy to be back.

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Speaker 3: So can we start. We do want to get into

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Speaker 3: You're a federal prosecutor for years in New Jersey and

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Speaker 5: Well, you know I've been talking about this for weeks, Fellas,

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Speaker 2: So I'm curious. We're talking to Chris Christy. You are

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Speaker 3: Point one? Point two?

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Speaker 2: Why don't And in situations like these, shouldn't there be

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I never had a plea deal

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Speaker 3: So this is unprecedented.

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Speaker 2: That's what I just want to get at for people

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Speaker 5: I ran the fifth largest office in the country for

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Speaker 4: We're one hundred and thirty and zero. I never sa

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Speaker 5: Secondly, as for cameras in the quorum, I have a

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Speaker 5: I think that there are times when people will put

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you've been in these situations for a long

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Speaker 5: Well, if I were returning to the United States right now,

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is not even it wasn't a close

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Speaker 4: So you know, my point to you is the.

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Speaker 5: Most important thing now, I think is for the Attorney

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Speaker 5: Because I can tell you that I never sent the

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Speaker 5: It will involve the three statutes that were cited in

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Speaker 2: We're talking to former New Jersey Governor Chris Christy's running

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Speaker 2: for president in the Republican primary. Sorry, this Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: thing is just so crazy, and I know you're trying

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Speaker 2: to get your hands wrapped around it as we are

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Speaker 2: as well, And I just want to reiterate for our audience.

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Speaker 2: You did seven years of prosecutions one hundred and thirty,

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Speaker 2: I think you said, of political based prosecutions, when one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty and zero you've never seen anything happen

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Speaker 2: like what happened here.

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Speaker 3: What is Is there any.

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Speaker 2: Doubt in your mind that if Hunter Biden weren't the

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Speaker 2: son of the President of the United States, that he'd

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Speaker 2: be facing serious jail time based on your knowledge of

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Speaker 2: the criminal code. And second part of that, I asked

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Speaker 2: you what should happen? What do you think will happen?

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Speaker 2: Like if you're Joe Biden and you're Merrick Garland and

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Speaker 2: you've just seen everything blow up like this. First of all,

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Speaker 2: it's blown up in such a public way, Governor that

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Speaker 2: even all these people who don't want to cover the

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's story, you know, this is the proverbial crap

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Speaker 2: hits the fan moment where everything's spread in every direction

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Speaker 2: and it's almost impossible even for them to cover up.

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Speaker 2: What do you think they're thinking? Put Buck and I

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Speaker 2: like to talk as if we were, you know, the

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Speaker 2: other side. Sometimes let's presume Joe Biden's brain actually works

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Speaker 2: and he's capable of having a rational discussion with reasoned advisors.

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Speaker 2: What would that discussion look like? What do you think

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Speaker 2: they're saying right now?

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Speaker 5: Look, I think that if you're advising the president at

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Speaker 5: this point, if the President is. I don't think the

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Speaker 5: President should have conversations with Mereck Carland because I think

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Speaker 5: it would be even more inappropriate for him to talk

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Speaker 5: to Merrick Garland about this. Merrick Garland should know on

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Speaker 5: his own that it's ballgame here, game over playing with

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Speaker 5: US attorney weis. Yes, he was appointed by Donald Trump,

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Speaker 5: but I gotta tell you it looks like he's pretty

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Speaker 5: frigging incompetent. I gotta tell you the truth, and Merrick

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Speaker 5: Garland should be calling the White House. In an hour,

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Speaker 5: I'm sending out a press release announcing the special counsel.

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Speaker 5: That's it, because now appears that you know, an independent

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Speaker 5: federal judge has said that this plea deal. She's now

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Speaker 5: said what I've been saying for weeks, that this plea

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Speaker 5: deal makes no sense. You can make no sense of

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Speaker 5: why the defense is doing this or why the prosecution

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Speaker 5: is doing it. And as a result, if something makes

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Speaker 5: no sense, what I learned in this business, Fellows, is

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Speaker 5: there are no coincidences, none, and you need to have

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Speaker 5: a special counsel come and look at this.

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Speaker 4: And I think that is what will happen.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that you can avoid it if you're

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Speaker 5: Merrick Ireland anymore, who's gonna have confidence in US attorney

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Speaker 5: weis after you couldn't get plead deal passed a judge that,

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Speaker 5: by the way, his office probably appears before five days

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Speaker 5: a week. Delaware is not a big place. There's not

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Speaker 5: that many judges there. This judge probably has a usas

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Speaker 5: from the Delaware office appearing before her on a daily basis.

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Speaker 4: And if she won't trust what they're doing, how the

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Speaker 4: hell should we trust it?

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Speaker 3: If you were thinking about this from the perspective of

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Speaker 3: the Hunter Biden defense team, what do you think their

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Speaker 3: play is now? Assuming that the special counsel, let's put

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Speaker 3: that aside for a second, what would their next ups

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Speaker 3: here be.

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Speaker 5: Well, their first move is gonna be said, shoot, we

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Speaker 5: almost got away with it.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be the first thing.

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Speaker 5: Then they didn't get away with I think now you

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Speaker 5: know they're gonna have to see they're gonna reactive mode

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Speaker 5: now because they can any longer assert that they have

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Speaker 5: an agreement. So now that's why they answer it to

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Speaker 5: not guilty play because it was an arrangement, And an

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Speaker 5: arrangement is when the purpose of an arraignment is for

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Speaker 5: a defendant to either enter a guilty or not guilty plea.

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Speaker 5: If it's a guilty like it was supposed to be today,

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Speaker 5: then the judge goes through what's called an allocution, where

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Speaker 5: the judge asks serious questions to establish the factual basis

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Speaker 5: for Hunter Biden's guilty plea and the legal basis for it,

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Speaker 5: and the fact that he was doing so freely with

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Speaker 5: advice of counsel and not under duress of any kind.

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Speaker 5: Once all those questions are answered, and assume they're answered

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Speaker 5: in the affirmative, then and only then would she accept

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Speaker 5: the guilty plea. So now she has an arraignment that

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Speaker 5: she thought was a guilty plead with no guilty plea.

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Speaker 5: You can't just turn the arrayment with doing nothing. So

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Speaker 5: she says, okay, I'm not accepting this plea, Hunter, what's

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Speaker 5: your pleasure? And they answered a not guilty plea, And

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Speaker 5: now they're going to go back to the US Attorney's office.

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Speaker 5: My guess is they try to see how the US

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Speaker 5: Attorney's Office reacts, and before anything happens with a special counsel,

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Speaker 5: they try to negotiate at another plea. That's why I

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Speaker 5: think the Attorney General has to step in. We cannot

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Speaker 5: trust this US Attorney's office to negotiate another plea after

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Speaker 5: they so royally messed up this one. And so I

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Speaker 5: think if your Hunters lawyers you think you almost got

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Speaker 5: away with it, you didn't. So now you've got to

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Speaker 5: try one more time. But my guess is that they

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Speaker 5: won't get another chance to negotiate a plea, at least

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Speaker 5: not with the Delaware US Attorney's Office. My guesses they're

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Speaker 5: going to have to see US counsel.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: First of all, we need to get you on again

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Speaker 2: because the timing on this ended up being perfect for

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Speaker 2: you to break down this crazy breaking news.

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Speaker 3: Happen areo guys, But we didn't.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance to get let you kind

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Speaker 2: of get into the political realm. But this was killer.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for breaking this all down for us. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine there being a better guest that could.

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Speaker 3: Have put them. We'll have them back, Governor Christie, We'll

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Speaker 3: have you back. We had you back the second time,

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Speaker 3: so you'll come back.

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Speaker 4: All right. Look, I love the show. I'm glad that

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Speaker 4: you had me on.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad I did a time this way because I

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Speaker 5: did this job for seven years of my life. I

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Speaker 5: love the Department of Justice when it's done the right way,

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Speaker 5: and I will as isn't it.

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Speaker 4: I'll let you know.

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Speaker 5: I will appoint an Attorney General who will prosecute these

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Speaker 5: cases without fear, favor or partisanship. And we're going to

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Speaker 5: restore the Department of Justice to what it was when

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Speaker 5: I work, which was the place that protected the country

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Speaker 5: from nine to eleven and stopped corporate crime and stopped

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Speaker 5: political crime. This obviously the Biden White House doesn't care

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Speaker 5: a lot about any of that stuff, and they better

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Speaker 5: get their act together and appoint a special counsel. So

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Speaker 5: thanks for having me on, Fellas, and I'll be happy

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Speaker 5: to come back when it's good for all of you

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Speaker 5: and we can talk about as much politics as you like.

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Speaker 3: Sounds as thank you.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate that, Governor Chris Christy, I mean, perfect timing. Given

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Speaker 2: this chaos, We're going to continue to break down what

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Speaker 2: exactly went on. So stay tuned because this is I

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Speaker 2: think it's fair as a blockbuster news associated with Hunter

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Speaker 3: Are there Visitors from another galaxy who have come to

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Speaker 3: our world. I I I'm not. It's not that kind

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Speaker 3: of show. I mean there are shows that get into that.

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Speaker 3: But today on Capitol Hill, I mean we talk politics

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Speaker 3: here right, That is our that is our bread and butter,

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Speaker 3: that is our foundation. And on Capitol Hill, Clay, right

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Speaker 3: now they're having hearings where there are they're they're supposed

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Speaker 3: to hear from a whistleblower and this is for the

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Speaker 3: Committee on Oversight and Accountability, a whistleblower featuring David Grush,

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Speaker 3: who is accused the government of withholding information that has

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Speaker 3: to do with I agree with you, Clay, I don't

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Speaker 3: like this UAP thing unidentified anomalist phenomena like that makes

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Speaker 3: you sound even nerdier. UFO is a good like. We

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Speaker 3: all know what a UFO is is and I think

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Speaker 3: we stick with it. But they the cool kids now

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Speaker 3: in this community say UAP. But I'm still going with UFO.

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Speaker 3: So here we are, you know, waiting to see more

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Speaker 3: of what comes out of this. We have some audio

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Speaker 3: of this guy, right, do we have? Yeah, let's let's

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Speaker 3: play part of what the h the testimony is likely

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Speaker 3: to center around here. Play it if you believe we

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Speaker 3: have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies

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Speaker 3: of the pilots who piloted this craft?

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Speaker 6: As I've stated publicly already in my news station interview,

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Speaker 6: biologics came with some of these recoveries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, were they I guess human or non human? Biologics?

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Speaker 4: Non human?

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Speaker 6: And that was the assessment of people which recknowledge on

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Speaker 6: the program I talked to that are currently still on

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Speaker 6: the program.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So he's straight up saying that we've pulled aliens

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Speaker 3: out of space with the under oath, Right, that's what

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Speaker 3: he's saying. I'm not missing this. That's what he did

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Speaker 3: say this morning. It started at ten am Eastern. So

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Speaker 3: what's going on here, Clay?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, first of all, can I just

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Speaker 2: say the fact that they scheduled the Hunter Biden the

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Speaker 2: Plea Agreement for the exact time that some guy was

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Speaker 2: going to sit down under oath and say we've taken

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Speaker 2: non human biologic life forms, basically aliens out of alien spacecraft.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy, right, I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: next level under oath testimony. So this guy is willing

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Speaker 2: to potentially be put in prison as a perjurer in

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Speaker 2: order to either makeup that we have uncovered alien life

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Speaker 2: inside of crash alien planes, or or he is so

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Speaker 2: crazy that he believes his untruth, which would make it

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Speaker 2: harder to charge him with perjury because he may truly

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Speaker 2: believe a lie. I mean, this is this is blockbuster

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Speaker 2: stuff and for it to be occurring again under oath

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Speaker 2: in Congress. This is not you and me, Buck driving along.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know we take a call from some guy and

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Speaker 2: he calls in and says, hey, you know, I'm out

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Speaker 2: in location here. I mean, this is under oath in

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Speaker 2: Congress testimony today that there have been alien spacecraft that

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Speaker 2: have crashed in Earth, and that we have removed dead

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Speaker 2: aliens from those spacecraft. Now here are my thoughts. And

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you eight hundred and two eight two two

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Speaker 2: eight eight two we are going to be deluged in

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Speaker 2: calls over.

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Speaker 3: We got some some colorful phone calls yesterday from well.

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Speaker 2: I don't doubt that at all if this has happened.

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Speaker 2: So my anytime there is a story like this that occurs,

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00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: how many people would know this?

655
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: Okay?

656
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: Is my first thought because to you or me, Buck,

657
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: if let's say that there are twenty five people that

658
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: show up in an alien space craft and remove dead

659
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: alien bodies. That would seem like it's something to keep

660
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: really quiet. I mean, if you or I you're in

661
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 2: the CIA, do you think if you had shown up

662
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: at an alien spacecraft and there had been dead bodies

663
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: that were not human pulled off that spacecraft, that you

664
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: would have been able to not tell anyone about that.

665
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: I mean, even here, zero percent chance that that could

666
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: be kept secret. Paced on my time in the Central

667
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: Intelligence Agency and knowing the people who work there and

668
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: their mindset.

669
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: No chance you're pulling the equivalent of little green men

670
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 3: out of a flying saucer that has crashed again to

671
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: that point, really good at intergalactic travel or whatever, not

672
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: so good at avoiding the rocky mountains or something. Yeah,

673
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: but yeah, look, I don't believe it. Okay, this guy's

674
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: testifying Capitol Hill. If people can get mad at me,

675
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 3: they can say I don't know anything, and I don't

676
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: know anything about UFOs, and I would love to know

677
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: a lot about UFOs, and I understand. And you know,

678
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: it always falls back into like, well, you can't I

679
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: know tomorrow. No one can break the future. I always

680
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: say it, tomorrow there could be you know, remember the

681
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: show V You know, we could have the aliens that

682
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: are actually lizards that look like people and all that stuff.

683
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. No one can tell you what tomorrow

684
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 3: is gonna bring. Do I think that the federal also?

685
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: Do I think the federal government has been covering this up?

686
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 3: I do not, And I would just ask why would

687
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: they cover it up too? Like what's the well, what's

688
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: the incentive so we can have their like super badass

689
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: technology or something that's kind of what I always here.

690
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: But I go, well, why, yeah, that's a great and

691
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: technology that's so amazing that we can't say we got

692
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: from aliens in the first place if we got it,

693
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: which we didn't, because this is all crazy.

694
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: Well, so my first thought is conspiracies are hard to

695
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: keep up, especially conspiracies that just take a step back

696
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: are incredible stories. So it's hard to keep people silent

697
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: on things for a long time. The more people that

698
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: are involved, the less likely it is that it can

699
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: stay silent. Now you can say, well, this guy's testifying

700
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: under oath. Clearly it's not staying silent. But I would say,

701
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 2: if he's correct, it would mean that there are dead

702
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 2: alien bodies somewhere in the United States government's control.

703
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: Right, Presumably we didn't just bury.

704
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: These dead alien bodies like in a field somewhere, but

705
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: we would think, I would think we would conduct an autopsy,

706
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: like look into the bodies, what are they, how are

707
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: they constructed?

708
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: What do they look like? And can you admit this?

709
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: Good?

710
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: The question? Yeah? Can I admit something about this? It's

711
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: a little bit like the JFK files for me too,

712
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: where they're hiding something, and it's usually that when the

713
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: government is hiding things from you, it's usually not things

714
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: that are really awesome. I'm just gonna again drawing on

715
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: what I know from you know, CIA stuff. It's not

716
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 3: that it's so cool or so interesting in secret, it's

717
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: that it's embarrassing in some capacity for the government. That's

718
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: the that's the most Why won't they release this thing

719
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: from fifty years ago? Who can now? Why can't we

720
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: all know? Because government agencies still they view themselves as

721
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 3: brands in a sense, right, I mean, like the FBI

722
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 3: brand has gotten very beaten up last few years among

723
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 3: others and others, and they don't really want the you know,

724
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: those government agencies don't want to be they don't want

725
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: to look foolish, They don't want to look dishonest, whatever,

726
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: whatever it may be, anything related to UFOs. The only

727
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: reasons I could see for them to keep it secret,

728
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: and this is what this goes to, is they there

729
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: is some sensitive technological research they're doing that somehow this

730
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: touches upon. That's the most charitable version of it for

731
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: the government side, or they look bad we're doing some

732
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: kind of weird experiments or meaning the government that they

733
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: don't want us to know about. You know this Representative Burchett,

734
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: he's a Tennessee guy.

735
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: You know.

736
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: I've met him, I think, but I don't know him personally.

737
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: Here he is cut thirteen. He's talking about this. He's

738
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: one of the leading lawmakers behind this investigation. Play it.

739
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

740
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 7: I don't want people to think we're going to bring

741
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 7: in little Green Man or a flying saucer in this thing.

742
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 7: But this is starting the floodgates, and these gentlemen are

743
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 7: coming forward with what they see. These are first hand accounts.

744
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 7: Isn't some good old boy back in the woods who's

745
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 7: had too much to smoke or drink and he spotted something.

746
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 7: These are trained pilots and experts in their field. I

747
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 7: would say that the tic tac of videos are proof enough.

748
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 7: They have no vapor trail, there is no heat signature,

749
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 7: there is nothing, and they defy all of our laws

750
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 7: of physics. The pilots can't define it, the scientists can't

751
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 7: define it. It is not the Russians. They wouldn't be

752
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 7: in Ukraine, it wouldn't be China. They already own us,

753
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 7: but they would really own us, and it's not us.

754
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 7: So where's it coming from?

755
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 3: So you know, you're very you know, reasonable when he talks.

756
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: Over Yeah, So your question of why would they keep

757
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: this hidden is I think fascinating. So one is buck

758
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: I could see them believing that there are amazing technological

759
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: advantages that they could get by constructing this alien spacecraft,

760
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: and if they crashed for some reason in the United States,

761
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: we don't want China to know that We're trying to

762
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: unpack whatever their technology is for future advantages in combat.

763
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: That would be one. Again, I still think it would

764
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: be very hard to keep it quiet. Two would be,

765
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: and this is more ominous. Two would be they have

766
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 2: discovered that there is alien life, and that alien life

767
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: has basically told us, hey, we can destroy your planet

768
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: at any point. In time, and they don't want a

769
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: panic to ensue because all of human life is basically

770
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: in the hands of people that we really don't understand

771
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: in any comprehend in any way. And how much panic

772
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: DoD we think about what COVID did? Okay, think about

773
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: what COVID did that killed what point one percent? You know,

774
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: ninety nine point nine percent of you got COVID and

775
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: you were fine if, for instance, and a life form

776
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: had arrived here and said, hey, you know, we have

777
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: the ability to obliterate all human life in the snap

778
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: of our fingers, if we decide to do so. I

779
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: would think that would probably create a little bit of

780
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: a panic in the United States and around the world.

781
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: Weren't you a creative writing major along with the history major, right?

782
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: Or you have a creative writing degree? Because that was

783
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm ready for the screenplay, my man, you're

784
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: good to go with that one.

785
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: I like, well, I mean, I just I think through

786
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 2: what would create a conspiracy of silence? One is, okay,

787
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: we're trying to gain a competitive advantage, right to answer

788
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: your question, because I think it's a good one. Two is,

789
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 2: all of humanity is under direct mortal peril and they

790
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: know that panic will ensue if they tell us how

791
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: much mortal peril we're actually in. Don't mean literally, there

792
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: is a great premise for a movie, right, like trying

793
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: to keep it from everybody that once in a while

794
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: we get a visit and they're like, hey, I don't know,

795
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: we might have to just vaporize your whole planet, you know,

796
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: but we're like, no, please don't, and then we have

797
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: to pay them off somehow. I don't know the question

798
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: that I come back to again, and we're going to

799
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: take some calls on this. Maybe we'll ask Chris Christy

800
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: what he thinks, not only about the plea agreement in

801
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: uh in Delaware. He's got a wide scope of potential

802
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: topics here as we typically cover every single day, but also, yeah,

803
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sorry.

804
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm getting lit up already by the emails lit

805
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: up just because.

806
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't see it because they're mad at

807
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: you for saying, yeah, look, I mean, there's your real

808
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: ally here.

809
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 3: I am on the record.

810
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: I think that there are is alien life forms than

811
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: that they have visited Earth.

812
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: That I'm on the record. And by the way, Buck,

813
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: let me just say this, I would not be stunned.

814
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: I really wouldn't.

815
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: If we look at some of the things that have

816
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: been created in ancient history. Oh my god, I'm not kidding,

817
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: the Pyramids, stone, the stone hinge of the city. I

818
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: would not be surprised if superior UH technology has been

819
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: shared at some point in time historically UH in human life.

820
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: Because here's the other thing. If you believe that aliens

821
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: have visited our planet, by the way, could be time travelers.

822
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: You want to get even creepier. What if it's not

823
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: alien life forms? What if there is just the ability

824
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: that somewhere in the future they unlock the ability to

825
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: travel back in time, and then they crashier every now

826
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: and then, and we're totally threatening the space time continuum

827
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 2: if we in any way acknowledge what might have happened.

828
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I have expansive like universe of potential

829
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: outcomes every day in life, and so none of those

830
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: things would stun me, right would you?

831
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: Guys don't know? Is that Clay has a flex capacitor

832
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: in his radio studio. Think about it.

833
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: If aliens are capable of traveling to America today, let's

834
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: say they're gonna come. It's twenty twenty three. Why wouldn't

835
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: they be have been able to come in thirteen twenty

836
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: three or eight twenty three, right, Like, why wouldn't that

837
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: have been possible at some point in time?

838
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: Look, I think the movie Predator is fantastic, and you know,

839
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: who knows, maybe they just show up. Sometimes they do

840
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 3: some kind of trophy hunting and you know what I mean,

841
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: I don't know your.

842
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: Here's one that'll really blow your mind, Buck, what if

843
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: the asteroid that killed all the dinosaurs wasn't actually an asteroid?

844
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: What if it was in some way propelled by an

845
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: alien species to test something on Earth hundreds of millions

846
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: of years ago.

847
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: I just want the millions of people who are listening

848
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: right now across the country to know that, according to

849
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: at least some of the vip emails were getting, I'm

850
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: the crazy one. I'm going to sitting here.

851
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not giving a yes or no. I'm

852
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: saying like I am, like I am. I have a

853
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: wide range of possibilities that I will consider on any topic.

854
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: I just I think, look, historically, Buck, if you and

855
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: I had been doing this show in sixteen forty, I

856
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: don't know how the show would have been distributed. We're

857
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: sitting up on a stage and there are all these

858
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: people throwing tomatoes at us right like while we're talking.

859
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 2: We could have thought in sixteen forty, we would have said,

860
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: we've discovered everything. There's nothing else that humans could ever

861
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: uncover about life, and we would have looked laughably absurd.

862
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: Fifty years later, one hundred years later, and.

863
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: Today we'll look back like the most brilliant people of

864
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: their age would have said, Hey, you're sick, let me

865
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 2: go get a bunch of leeches, will flood, will take

866
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: out as much of your blood as possible.

867
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 3: That's going to get you healthy.

868
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: So I'm skeptical of science and of people who claim

869
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Speaker 2: that they know the You.

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Speaker 3: See, this is the this is the move in the

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Speaker 3: goalpost with the UFO thing that drives me insane. I

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Speaker 3: make no promises, have no analysis, no thoughts about whether

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Speaker 3: UFOs will visit the earth, whether something could happen. I'm

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Speaker 3: only interested in what has happened, and I think it

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Speaker 3: has happened. I think they've been here.

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Speaker 2: This is it's a leap of faith right now, that

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Speaker 2: guy just testified, not only have they been here, we

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Speaker 2: took bodies out. Now that seems like a step beyond.

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Speaker 3: It seems like I miss I missed the guys in

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Speaker 3: the eighties and flannels and trucker hats who were like

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Speaker 3: then the aliens grabbed me outside the bar, and it's like, wait,

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Speaker 3: what you know be and how many people have seen them?

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Speaker 2: I mean, can we get the guy who testified about

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Speaker 2: the alien bodies on Congress?

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Speaker 3: Get them on. We're gonna have to get them on,

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Speaker 3: and I'm you know, it's gonna be the reverse of

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Speaker 3: be like, hey, hey, he's an expert. He's trying to

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Speaker 3: answer questions. All right, we'll get back in. Well, we'll

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Speaker 3: we also have Chris Christy coming up in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.

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Speaker 2: Amid all the chaos, Buck, I wanted to make sure

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Speaker 2: I shared this update with our audience, and that is

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Speaker 2: about what has gone on with that Jason Aldean song

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Speaker 2: you remember. Feels like forever ago almost that we discussed this,

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Speaker 2: but I saw this this morning.

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Speaker 3: Overall woke attacks.

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Speaker 2: As long as you don't apologize again woke attacks, they're

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Speaker 2: collapsing this whole idea of cancel culture. It's actually turning

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Speaker 2: in a Small Town. The sales grew buck twenty seven

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Speaker 2: thousand percent after this song got attacked for being racist,

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Speaker 2: and it is now on the Billboard one hundred list.

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Speaker 2: This is all songs, not just country songs, every type

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Speaker 2: It is the biggest Billboard hit of Jason Aldean's career.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you out there who are Jason

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Speaker 2: Billboard list. So this has exploded in Jason Aldean's favor,

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Speaker 2: proving once again these woke attackers, no one actually likes them.

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Speaker 3: Well, the right and I would even argue just the

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Speaker 3: to you? Any of the sponsors we have on this program.

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Speaker 3: Disney and on a lot of although, can I ask

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Speaker 3: you a question? I'm meaning to ask you because someone

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Speaker 3: brought this. Someone brought this to my attention a friend

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Speaker 3: of mine who knows you actually from the sports world

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Speaker 3: before listening to the show, and he was saying, Clay's

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00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: right about the NBA ratings in America. But if you

961
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Speaker 3: look at the NBA. This is now going to wokeness

962
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Speaker 3: and whether it's at the league. If you look at

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Speaker 3: NBA contracts, they're bigger than ever because the NBA is

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Speaker 3: now a global game, not a United States game. Well

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Speaker 3: that's why they won't call out China, right, which is

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Speaker 3: what my number one issue has been for Mark Cuban.

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Speaker 2: So yes, it is true that like, do they care

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Speaker 2: basically about what's happened stateside? That's that's the question. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they should because I think it's still the foundational element

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Speaker 2: of their ability to pay players insane amounts of money

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Speaker 2: and also for the franchise values to be increasing. But

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Speaker 2: it is a smart question to recognize that there is

973
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Speaker 2: a global pull and that's why. Look, I don't have

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Speaker 2: any problem and be clear, if Saudi Arabia tourism in

975
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Speaker 2: my opinion, we haven't talked about this before.

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Speaker 3: You might have a different opinion.

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Speaker 2: But if they came to us and they said, hey,

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Speaker 2: we want to bring you to the fanciest city in

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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia and we want you to do a week

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Speaker 2: long show about Saudi Arabian economic development, I'm just tossing

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Speaker 2: this out there. Nobody has pitched it I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm open to that idea, because I'm not expecting that

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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia is going to have the exact same values

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Speaker 2: as the United States, right, And so I wouldn't go

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Speaker 2: to China because I'm not sure you and I buck

986
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Speaker 2: would come back. Like, I wouldn't actually feel safe to

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Speaker 2: go to China because I think for what we say

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Speaker 2: to about China where the situation there. But what I'm

989
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Speaker 2: saying is like, I'll give you an example, WWE, you

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Speaker 2: grew up a wrestling fan. I grew up a wrestling fan.

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Speaker 2: Lots of people out there listening to us, like Hulkogan

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Speaker 2: and Macho Man and Jimmy Superfly, Snooka and.

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Speaker 3: All those guys.

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Speaker 2: Right, the WWE does events in Saudi Arabia, they do

995
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Speaker 2: events all over the world now, But nobody in the

996
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Speaker 2: WWE has ever lectured me and told me that America

997
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Speaker 2: is an awful place and that I should be embarrassed

998
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Speaker 2: by what's going on in my own country.

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Speaker 3: So I don't.

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Speaker 2: Judge the WWE by the standard of their lecturing. Their

1001
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: an entertainment brand. Their goal is to be as big

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Speaker 2: as they can possibly be as a global entertainment brand.

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Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, if you're going to lecture

1004
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: America about its failings, you should be willing to as

1005
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: an American, you should be willing to also speak up

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Speaker 3: in defense of basic human rights in China. But I

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Speaker 3: did think it's interesting because I'm seeing some of these

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00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: Not that I pay much attention to this, but it's

1009
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Speaker 3: such some of these NBA contracts are so big now

1010
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: that they are just general news. Some guy just got

1011
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: like a three hundred million dollars around million, right, And

1012
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Speaker 3: also you may in Saudi Arabia Killian Imbape, whom I

1013
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: know from Europe soccer player, and I follow soccer much

1014
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Speaker 3: more closely than I do basketball. But you know, it

1015
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Speaker 3: is what it is. What do you get seven hundred

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Speaker 3: what was it seven hundred million? In saying I don't

1017
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Speaker 3: even know what the dollar figure. I think it's a

1018
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Speaker 3: seven hundred million in Audi Arabia contract in Saudi Arabia

1019
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Speaker 3: to go play soccer. I mean, you're starting to get

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Speaker 3: toward the place where you're going to have billion dollar

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Speaker 3: sports contracts for people, Yes, which is pretty you know,

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Speaker 3: for I don't know, four years or five years or

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Speaker 3: the dynamics quite a bit there and uh, and I'm

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Speaker 3: also wondering if we can get to some of the uh,

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Speaker 3: some of the do we want to do.

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Speaker 2: Some of the Yeah, by the way, for those of

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Speaker 2: you out there that are just tuning in, we need

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Speaker 2: to play that audio again. We'll take your calls to

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Speaker 2: close out the shop. Let's do that, like we'll close

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Speaker 2: We've had so many serious stories out there. We also

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Speaker 2: playing out. We also had congressional testimony from a guy

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Speaker 2: And everybody's furious at Buck because he hates aliens and

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Speaker 2: I do believe that aliens may well exist. So we

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Speaker 2: will take your calls to close up the show. Eight

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