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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us again. We are always so excited

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Speaker 1: to be back on Kathy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we are so excited. And today we're diving into

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Speaker 2: the most recent episode of The Golden Bachelor. Okay, Susan,

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Speaker 2: what did you think about this past episode?

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Speaker 1: This was a good one. This was a real good one.

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Speaker 1: So the date card comes, I was on pins and

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Speaker 1: needles hoping that Cindy got the one on one and

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Speaker 1: sure enough, how about how emotional she was?

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Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, I'm going back to the making

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Speaker 2: out on the beach, in the water, the passion there.

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Speaker 2: So when he when they called her name for the

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Speaker 2: one on one, I was like, oh, this is going

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Speaker 2: to be an amazing day. I got it, you know me,

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Speaker 2: I gotta make the joke. First. I started shaking. When

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Speaker 2: I saw the horses. I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: thank god, it's not me.

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Speaker 1: Well, did you notice how the elaborate they made that

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Speaker 1: date sound. Yeah, and then I see two horses coming up.

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Speaker 1: This is not like a beauty queen date. I remember

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Speaker 1: back from our show when Faith had the helicopter and

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Speaker 1: then the yacht, and I'm thinking, oh, they're going to

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Speaker 1: out do that. And there was two horses. O.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying that. I like I had PTSD

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Speaker 2: when I saw the Sources show.

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Speaker 1: Did you think Mel was real comfortable?

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Speaker 2: No? I can talk Mel, I fail, you're paying trust me.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing that I thought, again from a

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Speaker 2: golden perspective. I mean, we can talk about the date

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Speaker 2: and all that, but the preamble when Cindy says, on

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Speaker 2: the date, people come out of some people come out

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Speaker 2: of divorces bitter, and she wants Mel to know all

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Speaker 2: about her. I was proud of Cindy for doing that

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Speaker 2: because so many people at our age they just don't

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Speaker 2: want to talk. They want to move on. And I

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Speaker 2: love the fact that Cindy clearly she's a pass woman, right,

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Speaker 2: but the fact that she wants him to know everything

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Speaker 2: about her.

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Speaker 1: It's a perfect way to start and get it over

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Speaker 1: with and you never have to speak about it again.

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Speaker 1: But let him know where you came from.

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Speaker 2: Right and and but and I also have I have

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Speaker 2: to give hats off to Mel because you know, Mel

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Speaker 2: was saying how relaxed he feels with her, and he

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Speaker 2: said it's a powerful I think it's quote I think

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Speaker 2: the quote was something it's a powerful thing to feel

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Speaker 2: relaxed with someone. And again, I keep thinking, at our age,

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Speaker 2: we're not the younguns, you know, We're not like, yes,

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Speaker 2: we want adventure and we want love and we want

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Speaker 2: all of that, but it's different. We want to know

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Speaker 2: where people came from, what made you know, how to

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Speaker 2: make you exactly? And so I loved that. Uh the

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Speaker 2: energy they talk about, the energy you know that they

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Speaker 2: bring to relationships, and it's I keep thinking, it's so

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Speaker 2: different than what you.

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Speaker 1: Love and you want the babies in the house with

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Speaker 1: the fans that they're not looking for the same things.

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Speaker 2: And and yes, and I just you know, Mel talks

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Speaker 2: about conquering fears and.

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Speaker 1: Then but to get into the group thing right when

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Speaker 1: they go to the yoga and the.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is when she's when she's they're

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Speaker 2: talking about going out, and you know he has some

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Speaker 2: ridden horses, yes, and he's saying, by the way, Sidney,

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Speaker 2: way to go on those cowboy boots as another girl

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Speaker 2: from Texas.

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Speaker 1: How about how they matched.

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Speaker 2: I know I was in the world, but but Susan,

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Speaker 2: here's something. What do you think about the fact that

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Speaker 2: he's talking about this guy was an NFL player, he

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Speaker 2: knocks people off their feet. He's a sports attorney now,

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Speaker 2: he's a public figure now, and he's talking on national

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Speaker 2: TV about conquering fears my hands on. What do you

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Speaker 2: think about that?

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Speaker 1: Impressively, he was being in the moment, he was living

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Speaker 1: that moment and being true to himself. Hats off to you, Mel,

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Speaker 1: Hats off to every one of them that got into

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Speaker 2: I just I hope people realize at our age, when

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Speaker 2: the youngins are talking, it's they haven't had the life

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Speaker 2: experiences yet. So when Cindy's talking, can you imagine talking

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Speaker 2: on national television about your husband that cheated on you

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Speaker 2: and and your divorce and and those those really deep feelings.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what makes Golden Bachelor and us

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Speaker 2: as Golden's so different.

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Speaker 1: Just because we have life experience, we have years, we.

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Speaker 2: Have lots of years. But let me just say thanks

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Speaker 2: for reminding me, thanks for reminders, and and can I

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Speaker 2: also say the faith of your listening. I love you.

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Speaker 2: I'm better on the horses. But what did I mean

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Speaker 2: watching him ride and he's going whoa, whoa. I was

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Speaker 2: seeing I'm watching the TV sweating and going, oh, mal God,

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Speaker 2: please don't fall off, because I know how I was feeling.

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Speaker 2: And they kept saying to me, Kathy, up straight. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: sit up straight. I am holding on for dear life.

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Speaker 2: I'm not thinking about how it looks good on the camera,

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Speaker 2: and I wonder it so bless you mouth.

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Speaker 1: But as they took that trail to get up to

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Speaker 1: it first came up. Like I said, I was looking

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Speaker 1: for yachts and helicopters, but cass were all different.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I want to talk about the

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Speaker 2: group date with you too, But one other thing. So

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Speaker 2: he's had one on ones with Cindy and Peg and

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Speaker 2: and now Cheryl and and now Cindy. Right, I think

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 1: Cindy was one of the few that didn't have one yet,

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Speaker 1: and she.

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Speaker 2: I know we're getting close to hometowns, so she's I

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Speaker 2: think she's having the last date if I'm right before one.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: She cried when she heard it.

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Speaker 2: I know it was so sweet, But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if if I could not help. But when

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Speaker 2: I was watching PEG's hometown. I think I said in

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Speaker 2: another podcast.

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Speaker 1: Pegs one on one day, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, thank you for correcting. Pegs one on one. He

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Speaker 2: was like watching her saying, I don't want to interrupt

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Speaker 2: her fun. Remember he was talking about she's having to

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Speaker 2: blast and Peg is fun. There's if anyone doesn't see.

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Speaker 1: That that girl is fun, right, But she reminds me

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Speaker 1: a lot of myself, both of us, three of us

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Speaker 1: saying although she knew every word.

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Speaker 2: I know right Free Musketeers. I mean, she's fun, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't sense passion with Mel, but with Cindy I

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Speaker 2: felt a lot of deep passion on both sides.

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Speaker 1: I believe, because that's who Cindy is. She's more serious

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Speaker 1: and that's her personality, right.

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Speaker 2: And that's I guess that's what I'm saying. As Golden's

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I keep coming back to like the

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Speaker 2: overriding things here, Peg and Cindy, and well, they're all different,

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Speaker 2: they're but those two one on ones to me stuck out,

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Speaker 2: like Cheryl's one on one being the princess. I mean,

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Speaker 2: can be a princess whatever. And that was a lovely date.

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Speaker 2: But I really thought how different people react to different people,

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Speaker 2: know words, Mel was a different person around Peg than

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Speaker 1: Did you feel hugs and his kisses weren't as deep

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Speaker 1: and emotional with Peg, yes, as they were with Cindy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we all knew that.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder, but here's the thing I wonder, is

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Speaker 2: it that we as Golden's is that we've had we

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Speaker 2: bring that out? Like, what's your thought on that?

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Speaker 1: I think some young people even are more passionate. One's

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Speaker 1: more fun and energetic than the other person. That's just life,

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Speaker 1: that's just individuals. You know, let's talk about that group.

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Speaker 2: Oh good? Can I just start with deep? Okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: let me just say I'm a deep person. I'm not

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm like what in in the moment? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, I really so talk to me. I mean all

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Speaker 1: I felt it. I was trying to be in it earlier.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what are they trying to clean? Just

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Speaker 2: give me, give me a.

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Speaker 1: Letting go of any kind of negativity, you know, how

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Speaker 1: do we speak at the universe and like attracts like

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Speaker 1: so anything negative or or their their fears that were

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Speaker 1: in their body at that time. Because this is a

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Speaker 1: crucial point in the show. The next thing is home.

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Speaker 2: I get it. I'm not all that bad jusu. I'm yes,

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Speaker 2: I am saying for me, I agree. I mean the

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Speaker 2: way I do it is, you know, I have a drink,

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Speaker 2: I go walk five miles.

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Speaker 1: You weren't on a group date and made to do it.

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Speaker 1: That's what I know.

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Speaker 2: I just to me it doesn't feel comfortable as that's

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Speaker 2: again at our age being forced. That might work for

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Speaker 2: some people. For me, I was struggling with that hole.

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Speaker 1: So if you were laying there with a couple of stones,

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Speaker 2: You know what? You know what I mean? I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm laugh a minute, but honestly, I would

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Speaker 2: I just why is not on my chest? Can we

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Speaker 1: I thought I was big Kathy, but I struggled with

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Speaker 1: meditation until it was just the last few years I

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Speaker 1: realized that meditation doesn't have to be complete quiet, no thought,

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Speaker 1: I can't do it right. You have to control that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well the control Susan. Wait, Susan Kathy control. No,

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Speaker 2: those words do not go together. Wait, but I did

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Speaker 2: want to talk about Peg talking about I don't know

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Speaker 2: why this show to me is all about themes. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I didn't feel this way on our show.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's or your Well or Jones, but this one,

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Speaker 2: like Peg talked about, they said something you wanted to

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Speaker 2: let go of, and Peg said she felt worthy, So

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming she kept saying I'm worthy. Well, that's not

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Speaker 2: tithing to get rid of Debbie. Debbie talked about hopelessness.

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Speaker 2: She wanted to get rid of that. Mel talked about friction.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to get rid of friction. And again I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking it, age doesn't matter, And in fact, as we

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Speaker 2: get older, sometimes we feel more friction, more hopelessness, more

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Speaker 2: unworthiness because we've lived so many lots, we've lived so

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Speaker 2: many aspects of our life.

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Speaker 1: Just a minute ago, when you were struggling with if

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Speaker 1: the rock was on my chest, and I'll be thinking,

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Speaker 1: there you go. You just said the three things. What

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Speaker 1: is it in you at that moment? If it were you,

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Speaker 1: that was your fear or.

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Speaker 2: Your being single the rest of my life? Can I

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Speaker 2: marry one of those rocks?

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Speaker 1: That's what that moment was about, letting go of that right,

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Speaker 1: But I need to do it on TV in front

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Speaker 1: of all these people. You really had to be in

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Speaker 2: I agree. I love the fact that, forget even national TV.

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Speaker 2: I want people to see that at any age, you

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Speaker 2: can feel unworthy or worthy, you can feel helpless or hopeless.

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Speaker 2: I just know I want to help, but they I

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Speaker 2: mean that connection that they have, I agree, and their

436
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Speaker 2: date to me, to me was the most each one

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Speaker 2: focused on the other as opposed to one being focused

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Speaker 2: on the other. Okay, then the other thing, you we

439
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Speaker 2: got screwed on our show. We didn't get to talk

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Speaker 2: to our children. We didn't get to talk to our children.

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Speaker 1: Tears that I know that gets me every time.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: That's like when Jones season and the Men all had

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, I didn't think of that,

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Speaker 1: just had a baby. Yet they didn't think of me

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Speaker 1: the first I know.

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Speaker 2: I was just like, what wait of to bring back

448
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Speaker 2: our friend from Florida? I feel like when he she

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Speaker 2: said to him when she left. I know I'm jumpinghad

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Speaker 2: but we'll get to the roast. But I just want

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Speaker 2: to finish with her now so we can get finished

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Speaker 2: on a high note. If it doesn't work out with

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Speaker 2: the one you.

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Speaker 1: Hold the zip zip zip zip. That's the final word.

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Speaker 2: Well you can say it, but wait list, okay, choose

456
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Speaker 2: me for the Golden Bouts like I could not. It's cheating.

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Speaker 1: There's a thing they call you're trying too hard. Yes,

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Speaker 1: less is more, Yes, that's the thing. So now we're

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Speaker 1: at the rose ceremony. Yeah, were you're sweating where you're thinking?

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Speaker 2: Okay, when I watched the roast ceremony, so we have

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Speaker 2: a lot of time to talk about this.

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Speaker 1: What did you think they're lined up? Everybody looks gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: I remember us and the gowns and Peg had on

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Speaker 1: that fune sure like, okay, stay out girl. Honestly, I

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Speaker 1: was surprised tell me that he let Cheryl go.

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Speaker 2: Tell me why.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought they had a connection. I

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Speaker 1: was like, whoa, Yeah, but Susan, I knew. I knew

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Speaker 1: Peg was in it. I knew Cindy was in it.

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Speaker 1: I thought no Peg was in it. I was happy

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Speaker 1: had so much fun with her. He did have fun.

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Speaker 2: And Debbie to me, uh, but they could only have three, right,

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Speaker 2: So Cheryl to me, it was for me, it was

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Speaker 2: between Cheryl and Debbie.

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Speaker 1: For me, it was between Cheryl and Peg. Oh really, yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: because I knew. Debbie confessed how she felt about him

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Speaker 1: and how she's found her man. And but when the

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Speaker 1: thoughts that were going out loud through our friend from

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Speaker 1: Florida's mouth, she said, I'm putting it out for the universe.

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Speaker 1: I know he's picking me. It didn't work, did it?

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Speaker 1: And you know what, she may be a lovely yes,

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Speaker 1: it's probably fun.

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Speaker 2: Probably, I think she's super fun. But I'm all about

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Speaker 2: at our age. You and I've talked about the Susan. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we had a blast on our show, right, we've got

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Speaker 2: you and I've had tons of opplication. We've had tons

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Speaker 2: of opportunities where we left were good with it. But

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Speaker 2: what you and I really tried to do is represent

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Speaker 2: Golden's well through humor, through telling our true life story.

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Speaker 2: That's not representing Golden's other women.

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Speaker 1: I was genuinely happy when they got that date, you know,

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Speaker 1: and when Joan had to leave, we were there for her.

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Speaker 1: It was about womanhood and friendships. Like we said, this

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Speaker 1: one was a little different than ours. So absolutely was different.

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Speaker 2: You've said it along. The women were different from day one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was different. I think put my finger.

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Speaker 2: I think Mel said that, you know, it's getting close.

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Speaker 2: He's got to make hard decisions. I felt like if

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Speaker 2: there could have been four, Cheryl would have been in

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Speaker 2: on that thing because I but I guess, I guess

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Speaker 2: for me, it wasn't surprising because I feel for them all,

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Speaker 2: you know, But when Cheryl she had won an earlier

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Speaker 2: one on ones and I think so, I think so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but when you when you're when it the time is.

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Speaker 2: It's a time capsule, right, And I think as time

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Speaker 2: moves on, the people who have the later one on ones,

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Speaker 2: I think are at an advantage. And I think.

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Speaker 1: Although for our it was like Teresa had the first.

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Speaker 2: And look how well that worked out. So there's that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that this I don't know

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Speaker 2: where it's going to go. We don't know.

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Speaker 1: My feeling overall is I don't believe that Mel is

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Speaker 1: ready to propose. I think he's ready to have a

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Speaker 1: relationship maybe, but I don't see him falling so harder.

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Speaker 1: At least he's not showing that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that's something you and I talked about before

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Speaker 2: we came out today. To me, i've ever met Mel,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to meet him. But Mel comes across

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Speaker 2: as stiff and I under and I'm and I'm being serious, sir.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean stiff from football injuries, which I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he's had plenty. He's he's definitely stiff in the movement

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Speaker 2: of his body, but he seems awkward with women.

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Speaker 1: He think he does it. He's not used to maybe

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Speaker 1: sharing emotion or he does it.

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Speaker 2: It's not what football players do, right, it's not what

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Speaker 2: lawyers do.

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Speaker 1: Lawyers they keep it all.

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Speaker 2: They keep it, they keep it tight to their chest.

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Speaker 1: And he doesn't. I feel like I can't read it.

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Speaker 2: I can't read it. I mean, he's been single five years.

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Speaker 2: Maybe yes, I don't know, Maybe hasn't dated that much.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't feel except for Cindy, I

533
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Speaker 2: have to say, I see him having fun with Peg.

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Speaker 2: I see him generally connecting with Debbie, just that sort

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Speaker 2: of lovely sweet and yeah so sweet and then I and.

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Speaker 1: Then looks at him, but he looks.

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Speaker 2: At her that way too, So I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I don't know. I would be surprised. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if there's not an engagement, because there usually is one,

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Speaker 2: that's that's part of.

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Speaker 1: It, right, Yeah, I don't know. I mean I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there's been shows that they didn't right.

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Speaker 2: So all right, so now we're looking forward to next

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Speaker 2: week to hometowns.

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Speaker 1: Wait, now can we go once again with that fath.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I.

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Speaker 1: Parting the gall to say, no matter who you pick,

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Speaker 1: I know it's not gonna work, so you can call

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Speaker 1: excuse me, young lady, like why because.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's how she felt in the moment, or maybe

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Speaker 2: she was trying to make good TV. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but again I'm sound like a broken record. It to me.

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Speaker 2: I wanted her to say, I'm sorry it wasn't I

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Speaker 2: wanted her to go leave gracefully. Mel. I'm sorry it

555
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: didn't work for us. But I wish you only the best,

556
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Speaker 2: only love, because that's what I wish for everyone. I

557
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Speaker 2: haven't found that love. That's what I wish for Mel.

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Speaker 2: That's what I wish for Gary. That's what I wish

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Speaker 2: for you. That is what, especially as a golden you've

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Speaker 2: lived life, give people grace. So that's bothered me. But

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for next week because holdowns and you

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Speaker 2: know what, Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 1: One little thing, Carol. We were talking about Carol, and

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Speaker 1: now she left. But do you remember Cheryl seeing her

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Speaker 1: get into the black car grass like the look on

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Speaker 1: her face and they were all just.

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Speaker 2: Well, good, you know what that's called Susan not we

568
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Speaker 2: supporting women felt badly that she left. Good for you, Cheryl,

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Speaker 2: But I'm so excited because Austin's gonna be there, my girl.

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Speaker 2: I've called it from the beginning, my hometown girl. I'm

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Speaker 2: so glad she's she's in this cannot wait for next week.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be fun. And with that said, Kathy,

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Speaker 1: you know, we spent a lot of time today just going,

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Speaker 1: go and going because it was such a great episode.

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Speaker 1: But I think we are out of time.

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Speaker 2: I hate parting is such sweet sorrow Susan.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for tuning in. We depend

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Speaker 1: on you. We love when you write in your comments.

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