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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to episode thirty three of the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 1: Here with Kelsey Ballerini and our sponsored blue apron and

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Speaker 1: one hundred flowers. Thank you to those guys. Hello Kelsey, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Do you know that the funny thing is I feel like,

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Speaker 1: for the first timember, I actually researched you because I

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Speaker 1: was like, what in the world is there about Kelsey

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Speaker 1: that I didn't know? Because I was trying to find

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Speaker 1: an angle with these I did actually did I've done

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Speaker 1: something I did not know about you, And I'll get

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Speaker 1: to it in a second. But it was weird because

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Speaker 1: I mean, have we've known each other since? I mean

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Speaker 1: I've been here really two and a half years? Probably? Yeah. Ever,

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Speaker 1: I ain't funny, that's ever. But um so I started

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Speaker 1: looking things up. I didn't know you were in college here.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea for two years. So you moved

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Speaker 1: out to Nashville at what age? Okay? So you move

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Speaker 1: out here and your mom comes with you. My mom

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Speaker 1: came with me. She got a job here from outside Knoxville.

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Speaker 1: From Knoxville. Yeah, so you mean she gets a job here.

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Speaker 1: What is it? You're a kid and you want to

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Speaker 1: move to Nashville and be an artist, and she just

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Speaker 1: moved and got a new job because of that. Well

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Speaker 1: it's funny. I started writing when I was twelve loved it,

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Speaker 1: but I danced for ten years and then gym like

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Speaker 1: gymnastics and loved that too, And so I think I

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Speaker 1: liked a lot of things. But um, I think mom

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Speaker 1: kind of watched it go from like a hobby to

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Speaker 1: and not just doing in my spare time or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And and so we started coming out here on the

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Speaker 1: weekends and you know, whenever we could, and just meeting

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Speaker 1: people and going to writers rounds and seeing what it

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Speaker 1: was about. At twelve, I had my first demo session

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Speaker 1: out here when I was like thirteen years old. People

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Speaker 1: back then it was when you hire a bunch of

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Speaker 1: come in and you play them your song. I played

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Speaker 1: it on gets are Um because I didn't have a

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Speaker 1: write it all down, go in, play your song like

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Speaker 1: two or three times down, and then go to the

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Speaker 1: next song, and it kind of turns into this big

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Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like a record. So I did

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Speaker 1: that when I was thirteen, um, and I mean was

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Speaker 1: just like I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

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Speaker 1: And actually, random story, there was a guy named Eddie Bear.

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Speaker 1: He's a he's a drum player, huge, amazing drum player,

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Speaker 1: UM studio drummer. And I remember this guy the engineer

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Speaker 1: was like, listen, like, these are really big studio musicians.

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Speaker 1: They're probably not going to talk to you. They're going

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Speaker 1: to go in and do what they do. You know,

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Speaker 1: they probably have three of these book today, four of

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Speaker 1: And afterwards Eddie Bear comes up to me. He's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: looked at me. He was like keep doing what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: and he walked out. And I'll never forget it because

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Speaker 1: And then I started playing the opery and he's now

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Speaker 1: of times ago, but you've told him the story to

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Speaker 1: have you remembered me? Do you remember me? He wasn't

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Speaker 1: What he meant to you with those few words passing?

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Speaker 1: He probably doesn't remember. I did tell him absolutely, because

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Speaker 1: Does that affect you now when you talked to new

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Speaker 1: change really the life? Yeah, anyone. Yeah. I'm super careful

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Speaker 1: being tired every now and again. Um that's the hard part.

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Speaker 1: Back to you going to college here, what you got?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. So you're here, you're living here? Did

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Speaker 1: There's one girl, she was signed to Sony. Her name

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Speaker 1: So it was well, I was super ready, like you

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Speaker 1: and you weren't writing for you. It wasn't the artist deal.

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Speaker 1: You were just writing songs, and so they pay you

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Speaker 1: that any of the artists picked up? No? Never did

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Speaker 1: Black River, you feel like, man, maybe they're kind of

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Speaker 1: you get a cut on another artist, this is your percentage. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: But if you are an artist and you cut one

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Speaker 1: you know what you get on this? So did they

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Speaker 1: I think once we wrote love Me, that was really

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Speaker 1: ended up writing like Peter Pan and all that, and

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Speaker 1: that's kind of when the record deal happened. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to the songs in the second when you walk to

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Speaker 1: I have six people on my wall that if they

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Speaker 1: Good times, bad times, middle times? I would be like

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Speaker 1: Apron dot Com slash Bobby Right, it's all right, Blue

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Speaker 1: Apron dot Com slash Bobby Alright, So um, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about your second single. So DIBs comes out, and how

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Speaker 1: did that one get picked? Did you go into a

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Speaker 1: meeting a vote but they already had like a bunch

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Speaker 1: of DIBs hats. You know, it's funny. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't even really remember having a meeting about Dibbs. I think, yeah, UM,

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Speaker 1: when I when I did my radio tour, we played

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Speaker 1: three songs acoustic every station visit, and it was loved Me, Dibbs,

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Speaker 1: and Peter Pan. So I think we always knew that

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Speaker 1: those were three um, and we knew that we needed

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Speaker 1: to be really careful on Peter Pan. And I think

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Speaker 1: that love Me set us up to kind of do

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Speaker 1: something and we didn't know what it was yet, but

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Speaker 1: I think that we needed to re establish that sound

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Speaker 1: before we changed it. I think that was our our

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Speaker 1: theory with that, because Love Me was such a left

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Speaker 1: of center song sonically, and Dibbs kind of had that

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Speaker 1: same tempo, that same feel um And a lot of

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Speaker 1: people will criticize that and said it was the same song,

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Speaker 1: and in some ways it kind it is. But you

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Speaker 1: know what's weird and you say that, I'm gonna just say, okay,

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Speaker 1: it had the same field. It was left of center.

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Speaker 1: You said at the time it was and now it's not,

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Speaker 1: and now it's not. Yeah, absolutely like and all of

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Speaker 1: these are artists that end up making it in pop

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Speaker 1: and not in pop. They make it because they pop,

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Speaker 1: it's because what they were doing was left of center

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Speaker 1: at the time. I talked to Sam Hut today and

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Speaker 1: Sam and I have become oddly friendly. Youer than just

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Speaker 1: than no, not not romantically, but but more than just

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Speaker 1: a radio host and an artist because like me, Sam

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Speaker 1: is very like like if we're not on, we're not on,

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Speaker 1: and we we like our time to write, and like

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Speaker 1: I'll send my room before hours just right, jokes are right,

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Speaker 1: are working on the book and so but we were

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Speaker 1: talking today and I was like, just for a second, like,

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Speaker 1: think about everybody that told you that your sound was

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Speaker 1: not going to work, and he was like most people

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Speaker 1: to even my own people told me it wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: work because it was so left center. But he's like,

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Speaker 1: it was it was what I wanted to do, and

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Speaker 1: I was gonna go down with my own thoughts. And

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Speaker 1: so as you say left the center, now you've created

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Speaker 1: it in the middle, like you were the one that

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Speaker 1: made this the middle sound. It's cool to think about

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Speaker 1: you're the one that I mean I can like Lauren

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Speaker 1: a great friend of mine, Laura Lena, like she's able

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Speaker 1: to put out that song because I've loved me like

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Speaker 1: you mean it. Bro Let's travel is able to come

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Speaker 1: out because I loved me like you mean it. I

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Speaker 1: saw her well. I I saw a clip of her

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Speaker 1: singing Peter pan Careoki the other day and I thought

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Speaker 1: it was the coolest thing I've ever seen. By the way, No,

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Speaker 1: Laura Lena does not get the credit she deserved for

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Speaker 1: being one of the best singers in town periods, dumb

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Speaker 1: period now. And I was like, please don't actually sing

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Speaker 1: that song because no one's gonna want me to sing

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Speaker 1: it anymore. So she's so good and she's also a

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Speaker 1: really a good songwriter, and you don't and I oddly

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Speaker 1: have and because I you know, my kids music and

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Speaker 1: comedy music, and she's quick man, and Lauren's been into

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Speaker 1: before and it's just a great person. So but you

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Speaker 1: just saying left the center put me on that. It's

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Speaker 1: not even more. You've made it middle and so now,

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Speaker 1: but what you're gonna do, because you're gonna take another

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Speaker 1: sound and go left again with this next record, because

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Speaker 1: one you can have the ability to, and too, you

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Speaker 1: have to have to. And so okay, so Dives comes out,

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Speaker 1: it goes number one, which was doesn't give me the surprise.

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Speaker 1: If it really wasn't a surprise, well, listen, this is

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Speaker 1: what happened. So it was a really tough song. Dives

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Speaker 1: was our toughest song because radio liked it and during

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Speaker 1: radio tour they were like, is this gonna be a

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Speaker 1: single or like yeah, we think it'll be second, but um,

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Speaker 1: it didn't sell well really and um, and then when

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Speaker 1: it got up to the top like five, which we

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Speaker 1: were stoked about because we didn't know if it was

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Speaker 1: gonna happen because it got stuck in the thirties for

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Speaker 1: a while. Um, it got up to the top five,

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Speaker 1: and Granger had just gone number one with on the

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Speaker 1: Verge and he was pushing for a second week, and

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Speaker 1: it was the week that we were trying to push

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Speaker 1: for number one, and it went down to the very

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Speaker 1: last hour of the art and I remember being like, okay,

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Speaker 1: like you're getting number two and that's fine, Like you're fine.

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Speaker 1: And I was at home in my old apartment getting

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Speaker 1: my hair done. I had foils in my hair and

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Speaker 1: as I got closer and closer. Megan, our friend Megan

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Speaker 1: was sending me I was with Megan that night. We

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Speaker 1: were in and Austin. You were doing a stand up comedy.

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Speaker 1: We were all together that night. Okay, yes, waiting to

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Speaker 1: see if do you remember how close it was? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I finished the show because because it's midnight,

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Speaker 1: Pacific time is what counts, because Eastern comes in. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's like the new Ryan Seacrest New Year's Like, you're

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Speaker 1: going all the way down. And I finished my stand

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Speaker 1: up comedy show at like thirty or eleven, which you

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Speaker 1: mean it's nine Pacific. So they're like, we're going to

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Speaker 1: the bar and waiting and watching the charts. It was hectic.

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Speaker 1: I just remember, as we got closer and closer, Megan's like,

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Speaker 1: we might get it. It's still really close. So I

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Speaker 1: started inviting some of my friends over just in case

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Speaker 1: it happened, just a cause it didn't, you know. And

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Speaker 1: so before I knew it, like I have like thirty

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Speaker 1: people in my time, a little one bedroom apartment, foils

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Speaker 1: in my hair and I get the call and they're like,

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Speaker 1: we got it. It's number one, and um and I

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Speaker 1: have a video of all of it, and then Hunter

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Speaker 1: Hayes was over Um with the girlfriend Libby and he

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Speaker 1: like made this beautiful toast and like it ended up

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Speaker 1: being like the coolest night of my life because we

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Speaker 1: were just like, is this going to happen? We don't

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Speaker 1: know if we're going to get it, and we got

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Speaker 1: it and ended up being like a really cool celebration.

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Speaker 1: And having two number one gives you the ability to

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Speaker 1: fail next and still have some strong feed yeah, And

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Speaker 1: that's why we risked it with Peter Pan. And it

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Speaker 1: was a risk because one year a girl yeah and

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Speaker 1: too it's a it's a ballot, yeah, and at the

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Speaker 1: and even now that's not the safest thing. But really

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Speaker 1: back but then when we're talking even a year ago,

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Speaker 1: it really wasn't a safe play at all. And there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of mid tempo and slow ballads on

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Speaker 1: radio at the time. It was when they all started

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Speaker 1: to come out of the sad time. Yes song, Oh man,

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Speaker 1: this was like I feel like we all knew that

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Speaker 1: this was our, like our song that would change the game,

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Speaker 1: and it did, and I think in different ways than

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Speaker 1: we really even knew. But Um, I wrote this song

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Speaker 1: with Jesse Lee and Forest who I wrote with today

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Speaker 1: actually randomly. Um, and I remember was my first rite

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Speaker 1: with Jesse. And I remember Jesse as an artist when

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Speaker 1: I moved to town. Her video was on G A

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Speaker 1: C and seems for It's a Girl Thing, and um,

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Speaker 1: I thought she was so talented and it was my

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Speaker 1: first art with her, so I was super stoked. And

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Speaker 1: do you know Jesse at all? She is a spit fire.

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Speaker 1: I mean comes in the room black of bold dozer

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Speaker 1: in the best way possible. So I was kind of

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Speaker 1: like letting her take the room. And um, she was like,

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Speaker 1: I had this idea, Um, but if we don't write it, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ride it somewhere else. I just want

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Speaker 1: you guys to know that straight up. And we were

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Speaker 1: like okay. And I think her doing that and timid

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Speaker 1: in Timid dated us a bit, but it also kind

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Speaker 1: of put this pressure in the room, um, and like

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Speaker 1: this challenge in the room of writing a really good song.

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Speaker 1: And she was like Peter Pan that the boy who

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Speaker 1: doesn't grow up. Um, that's that's my idea. And we

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Speaker 1: loved it and and wrote it really quick, I think,

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Speaker 1: and it was one of those songs that we just

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Speaker 1: wanted to keep singing over and over in the room

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Speaker 1: like no one was ready to leave yet. Um, which

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Speaker 1: was cool. I have trouble with your next song, and

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Speaker 1: not for a reason you would expect, but um, and

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Speaker 1: whenever you hear that, because people listen to these months later.

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Speaker 1: But as we're doing this, Bobby cast your singles, yeah boy,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to say it was saying yeah boy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like yeah boy, yeah boy,

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Speaker 1: yeah boy. So on the radio, I don't see the

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Speaker 1: name of it. I'm just like why because it's like

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Speaker 1: there's yeah boy, just say it. Just feels I could

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Speaker 1: do that, just calling did you call Peter Pan Peter

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Speaker 1: pants your pants? Yeah? You just say it, just call

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Speaker 1: it ceaseor no, because some people will be like what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? People get mad at everything I do. Anyway,

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00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: all right, so on the right now, this this is

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Speaker 1: your song on so this one here, just give me

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Speaker 1: a story. Um, you know it's the last song that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna release from this album. And UM, I think

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Speaker 1: the whole heartbeat of the album I put out was

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Speaker 1: very young. A lot of it was very flirty. Um,

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Speaker 1: you were also young and flirty, thought, I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was absolutely absolutely, and I think, I mean, even what

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00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: you've heard this next record is not that at all,

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Speaker 1: and so I think that it was kind of us

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Speaker 1: being like, let's circle back and end it how we

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Speaker 1: started it before we kind of move on to something else. Um,

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Speaker 1: which has been really fun because it's it's fun to

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Speaker 1: see the fans that initially reacted with love me be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is my this is my favorite song on the record. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've been waiting for this, you know. That's been fun

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Speaker 1: to see. My favorite song on the record is one

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Speaker 1: that did not come out of the single, just because

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Speaker 1: it was like, you know, I'm a weird person that

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Speaker 1: doesn't always fit, but I love the square pat you did.

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Speaker 1: You can see that was the last time we wrote

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Speaker 1: everybody gata everybody, everybody sales and the world go round.

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Speaker 1: Like that's like I sound like a kid, yeah, said,

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Speaker 1: I mean this whole record though, Kelsey, you're talking about you.

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Speaker 1: You've grown up, I mean a lot in the last

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Speaker 1: three years. Like it's been kind of while to watch

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Speaker 1: the ascent and again this your next record is gonna

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Speaker 1: make you even older to people because it's far more

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Speaker 1: mature and this you needed this first record, Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of it, of it, and I know you

624
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Speaker 1: don't feel cool because it's poppy. But I didn't change

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Speaker 1: the game. The completely changed the game. You would not

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Speaker 1: be here without this sound. The radio would not sound

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Speaker 1: like it does without this sound. And I wouldn't heat

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Speaker 1: this false praise on you, but I would just talk

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Speaker 1: about it. Um. So yeah, like it's good. If you

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Speaker 1: put out a second record like this, I'll be like,

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Speaker 1: all right, Kelsey. I mean I think everyone wouldn't say that. Well,

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Speaker 1: So you ever hard to carry Underwood? Um? Not often,

633
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: like we we've texted here and there, um, but not

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Speaker 1: often because she puts out songs that she she walks

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Speaker 1: that line a pop song and and and also Carrie

636
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Speaker 1: just doesn't give a crap she does. I know Miranda

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Speaker 1: gives credit for not giving a crab, but Carrie doesn't

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Speaker 1: give Carrie does hes her lane like you said earlier.

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Speaker 1: And this isn't even to go back about that comment.

640
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Speaker 1: But you know, getting to know carry a bit, it's

641
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: like focus forward. This is what I do. I'm just

642
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: going to do it. That's the best thing. And it's

643
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: hard to do. It's so hard to do with a

644
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: million voices. It's really hard to do, and especially being

645
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: like a young girl, it's hard to just like look

646
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: ahead like, um no, I don't know her well, UM,

647
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: but I remember I met her. I went to her

648
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: Khalia fashion show in New York actually, um, maybe a

649
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: year and a half ago, and Um I went backstage

650
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: and gave her a hug, and she was like, Hey,

651
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: here's my number if you ever need anything. And she's

652
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: texting me a couple of times, like when my grandparents

653
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: passed away, she texted me and UM a couple of times.

654
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: She's she's really cool. But we've never like hung out.

655
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: We're not bros. So early seventeen right now, in the

656
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: life cycle of this record, what's been the coolest give

657
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: me a moment? Let's say, give me what's the first

658
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: thing that comes to my want to go, give me

659
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: a moment of the album. I don't care just in

660
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: the last since the album, because you've got to do

661
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: a lot of things. Yeah, there's been a lot. Give

662
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: me the first one that comes to line. The most

663
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: rewarding thing I've gotten to do is headlining tour. And

664
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: I didn't when my management came to me like a

665
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: year and a half ago, and there like we want

666
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: you to headline the end of two thousand and sixteen.

667
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: I was like, you guys are crazy, You're crazy, Like

668
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. Um. And I didn't think I

669
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: was I could put together like a seventy minute show.

670
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: I didn't think I could do that. Um. It was

671
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: the most rewarding thing I've ever done, because you get

672
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: so used to having your like forty minute slot with

673
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: two pillar songs that people know, and then the rest

674
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: you're kind of like just trying to get people to

675
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: just even pay attention to you. Um. And with this tour,

676
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: we had venues that were like I think it was

677
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: like twelve cap rooms sold out, that they knew songs

678
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: that I hadn't even put out yet, every word to them,

679
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: and to me, it just made me feel like the

680
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: whole record meant something and had a life that was

681
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: bigger than just the songs that I got to put

682
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: out a singles, which was it was really cool. You

683
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: know what else? As I sit here and think, because

684
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: I watched from a thousand feet up, sometimes what you're

685
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: doing and your socials and I'm a fan of artists period,

686
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: in regardless how big they are, Like I like like

687
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: like people trying things, and I like people doing things

688
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: when people they stopped doing them just because they feel it.

689
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: And you talk about pop music in a second, and

690
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: I love the fact that you're just like, I love

691
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: pop music because I like listen, I I love hip hop, come,

692
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: I love you know there are these things and I'm

693
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: just it's just who I am. And the fact that

694
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: you hop on Instagram And I was watching Instagram have

695
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: you doing the chain Smoker's parents other night? And I

696
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: was like, the fact that she's still doing this just

697
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: because she likes to do it. That's much cooler than

698
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: anything else. Because for your whole career, whatever it is,

699
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: people are always going to tell you you're not this

700
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: is not the cool thing to do. Forever. You're forever

701
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: gonna be told you should be doing something else. And

702
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: the person surround yourself with the best people and then

703
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: listen to the the best person, which is you. And

704
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: I like to do that because I know that you

705
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: get that you're not cool. Sometimes sometimes the haters too,

706
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: because you're blown up. Do you know? Do you do

707
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: you know how fast you you're blown up? And how

708
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: abnormal it is. What's what's really interesting is I I know,

709
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: but I don't really know. Does that make sense? I

710
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: know because people are telling me, and I know because

711
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: it's been two years and I feel like it's been ten.

712
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: But the first big proper break I've gotten was this Christmas.

713
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: I had like a week off for Christmas and two

714
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: weeks in Australia and I got home. I had thirty

715
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: six hours at home, did a did a cover shoot

716
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: for Billboard. I don't think that's I'm not supposed to

717
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: say that that happened. And then I literally got on

718
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: a country cruise, which you're on a cruise with fans

719
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: for five days to perform. And then I got home

720
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: and so I was like jet lagged and like really

721
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: kind of like WHOA where it? Like I need to

722
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: be home for a second. I feel like I need

723
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: to get centered for a second. And I went through

724
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: with management every day of this year what I had

725
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: going on, and I got really intimidated by my life

726
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: because I just got to be a human for like

727
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: a month, and I didn't really think about music too much,

728
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: um because I needed to like have some experience to

729
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: live and write about, and like just a lot of

730
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: stuff happen. I got engauged and stuff like that. So

731
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: I just want to kind of go away for a minute.

732
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: And I literally sat with management. I was like, I

733
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 1: don't I don't think I can do this, Like I'm

734
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: really intimidated by this, and it makes me feel really

735
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: insecure and like I don't know how this happened, you know,

736
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: and like the start of my year really is the Grammys.

737
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do I ease into the Grammys? I

738
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: don't know how to do this? And so that's been like, uh,

739
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: I think the first time that I've really felt like, whoa,

740
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: this did happen fast, because now you're feeling the things

741
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: that you probably should have been feeling a year ago,

742
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: like that that intimidation. You know, do you worry that

743
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna let people down? Um? No, because no one

744
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: thinks I'm cool, So I don't really work different the

745
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: people that that assigned coolness, they don't matter yea. And

746
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: you know this because you got it, like you understand it.

747
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: And I think you've had some great people that have

748
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: taught you this is that do you know matters that

749
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: people that buy the music yea, on to the shows.

750
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: That's who matters. That's who really tells you if you're

751
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: cool or not. And I had the same thing. Like

752
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: people can tell me I saw writ blogs about how

753
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: terrible I am. But when I go do a stand

754
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: up show or I could do writing ideas show where

755
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: I go, those are the only people that matter. And

756
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: you know this, and and it's a it's a rare thing,

757
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: and that's who matters. That's why I think that tour

758
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: was so rewarding for me because I was like, I

759
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: am cool right now. It weren't a bubble that we

760
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: sometimes don't see out of because we're in Nashville. Everybody

761
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: it's a it's a small town but speaking and everybody's

762
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: in it telling you how cool that someone else is. Y. Yes,

763
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: but in reality, and you do a great job at

764
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: this to the coolest person is the person that comes

765
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: out and show support because we wouldn't be able to

766
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: do what we do. Yeah, none of it without people

767
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: spend they go to work and have jobs and like

768
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: spend their money on you as an escape. Eight. That's cool.

769
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: It is cool. Yeah, it is cool. And uh and

770
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: and don't lose sight of that because you will get

771
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: pulled in eighty directions to be told a hundred things,

772
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, trust me. I get bashed constantly,

773
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: but FM, you know yeah, because you know, it's just

774
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: it's all about for me, it's all about the listener.

775
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: Like if they start to if I start to be

776
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: a douchebag, or I get high horsey or it's like wow,

777
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: don't then I'm like, I gotta pull I gotta pull

778
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: it back. You listen to them because it's like, you know,

779
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: dance with a girl that brought you and so that's

780
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: you talk about getting engaged and that. How about that?

781
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: What happened? Huh, let's talk about that. I mean, you're young,

782
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah I am. I am, you're young. When are we

783
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: talking about getting ready? Like ten years, there'll be one

784
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: of those long we haven't talked about it. I like, um,

785
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: I never have thought about like a wedding or getting

786
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: married before. It's never been on my haven build a

787
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: picture's board of not my thing. I have dreamt about,

788
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: like what my tour will look like, not what my

789
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: wedding will look like. And he's the best I love

790
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: so much and I'm stoked to marry him, but like

791
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: that's not the things that we're thinking about right now.

792
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: We have people in our lives, um that we shared

793
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: that we're close to. And I the first thing I did,

794
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that's like Kelsey get engaged. Is

795
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: she pregnant? Who? It doesn't matter here, Oh god, it

796
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But no, I know you're not. And if

797
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: if I thought you were or she said you know

798
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: he or he said yes, I wouldn't have asked that question.

799
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: But I was like, is she pregnant? Because because I

800
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: wanted to be happy for you, but you're not pregnant.

801
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm not No, no, no, that's right now. You're not pregnant.

802
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: You didn't get engaged because you were pregnant. Not that

803
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that, but that's what I thought.

804
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: When I saw it, was like, huh, it's been pretty quick.

805
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: Like when you met him, you went over in March,

806
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: it's been like ten and a half months. And so

807
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: you go over and you meet him doing the awards

808
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: show because he lives in Nashville. He's lived in Nashville

809
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: for like a year and a half um where I

810
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 1: guess like two years now. But yeah, he actually had

811
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: come over and interviewed, um, all the artists that were

812
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: going over for that The cmafest before. So I didn't

813
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: remember him because I was in a relationship and whatever,

814
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: And so he interviewed me, and I gets he texted

815
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: his friend that day and said, I met a lot today.

816
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: I don't even remember him. Okay, do you have a screenshot?

817
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: His friend is the one who told me. But do

818
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: you have the screenshot? I don't have the screenshot. I

819
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: didn't know how dudes are Mike? Are you with? I

820
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: mean he didn't work out. It doesn't work out. Well, yeah,

821
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: but I don't remember that before anybody else. He he

822
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: was like me, like we were like, hat, it's been fun.

823
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: See you gonna go work now, you know, like just

824
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: not relationship people wolf. Um, but yeah, no, we hosted

825
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: the show together and I'll start and um, i've been

826
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: together since and you came back, came back and then

827
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: you started dating. Yeah yeah, I I didn't know that

828
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: he lived in Nashville. Um, when we hosted the show together.

829
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: And was it? Did you fall from like that? Like that?

830
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: You really didn't? Yeah? Good looking dude, Ah he is.

831
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: He's so hot, but he's just like a proper good

832
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: human like he he's a good like h Yeah, you

833
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: have to hang out with him, you really what he's

834
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: the best. I'm gushing and stop talking about no, no,

835
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: gush away. It's it's a rare thing, it really to

836
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: find someone worthy. My parents like are super super divorced,

837
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: and I think that's probably why I was like kind

838
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: of like, oh, I wasn't two to your relationships before,

839
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: and you could not have paid me to even say

840
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: the word marriage, Like I just would never think about

841
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: that because as also, I'm a kid and I love

842
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: what I do and I'm busy and like that's kind

843
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: of what my life is. And when I thought it

844
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: was all about and um, yeah, when I met him,

845
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, You're going to change my life?

846
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: Did you know he was going to propose? Uh? We

847
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: had talked about wanting to get married, that we knew

848
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: that we wanted to be with each other forever. And

849
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: he's thirty one. Well he's older than I thought. He's

850
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: he's older than me. Um, and I know he was

851
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: older than you. Yeah, look at him. Listen. I think

852
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm eight years older than my girlfriends. So you know,

853
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm not wander There's nothing wrong. I feel like I'm

854
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: twenty three and I have moments of acting like I'm

855
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: eighteen now that's crazy to me. I know, I have

856
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: moments of acting like I'm eighteen still, but I also

857
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: have moments like I feel like my my real life

858
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: is like I need I need to be about thirty

859
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: five all the time, Like I need to act like

860
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm like thirty five all the time. You've had to

861
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: grow up a lot quickly. But I'm telling you grew

862
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 1: up like quickly though you at a younger age too. Mean, Listen,

863
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't like you had this uh Brady bunch of

864
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: type family because and you know you've talked about that

865
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: a bit with your mom and dad splitting up. And

866
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: your mom lives here. My mom is in Franklin. Yeah,

867
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: she lives in Franklin, not Nashville, but like minutes Yeah,

868
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: not far at all. My dad's in Knoxville, so where

869
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: I'm from. And so that's where you go when you

870
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: put on the pajamas. No, that's mom's Franklin. Yeah, that's

871
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: her favorite thing. It's for all you guys to put

872
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: on the footsie pajamas. Yeah, why do you? She makes

873
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: her so happy, And I think she thinks that everyone

874
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: hates it, so she makes a big deal out of it.

875
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: And so we all just kind of act like we

876
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: hate it, but then we're like posting pictures because we

877
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: think it's so fun. So you start working on this

878
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: next record. How long ago. I've been through a lot

879
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: of phases with this album. I've I mean, I probably

880
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: wrote the first time we had written for it is

881
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: a song called Graveyard, which I think I sent you,

882
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: and UM, I don't even know the First Time was

883
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: out yet when we had that song writing. I mean,

884
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: we've we've been for it. I've probably written like maybe

885
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: maybe two songs, and we've cut some, scrapped them. We've

886
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: used a couple of different producers didn't work out. UM,

887
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: So we've really kind of gotten to experiment a bit

888
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: more with this one. UM. But you know what the

889
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: coolest part was, I went back to like the producers

890
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: that did the first time, and they're my friends, and

891
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, it just worked because you can

892
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: be honest with them. I can be honest with them

893
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: and like they they created the sound that the first

894
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: Time is and I think that that's really valuable, you know,

895
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: And it was really cool to be able to try

896
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: different producers and then learn that like they bring something

897
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: really special. Um, and I don't think I appreciated that

898
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: as much as I probably should have, And now I

899
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: do because I know you get the call that you've

900
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: been nominated for Best New Artists, UM, just be real.

901
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: Did you think that you would be one of the

902
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: five nominees. Honestly, it was really important to me. It

903
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: was really important to me. Did you feel like it

904
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: lessened to your chances that Maren existed and she came

905
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: on strong? Because I did, I was like, oh, man,

906
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: is really cool. Ye are way cooler than they are

907
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: commercial absolutely people even heard of. And I love music,

908
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, who is this? The thing? The thing

909
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: about me and Maren and we're friends, We're not super close.

910
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: I would love to be close with her. Um. But

911
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: the thing about Maren is, if there's any other I

912
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: don't want to say this, I'm glad it's me and her.

913
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm glad I'm in competition with her because she's

914
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: so talented and her record is probably my most played

915
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: record of the year. UM. And I think that hopefully

916
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: once we get out of all the new categories, it'll

917
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: be just like Carrie and Miranda where they live in

918
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: completely different lanes. But I think that people put us

919
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: up against each other. Right now, we're the new girls,

920
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: and we're female, and we're in the new artist you

921
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So right now I think we're

922
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: up against each other a lot, which again I'm stoked

923
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: at her because she's really good, and that means that

924
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm in the same category as someone who's really good,

925
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: which I'm stoked about. Um. And I think that eventually,

926
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: as we keep putting out music, hopefully we keep just

927
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: growing into those positions. Is like a Carrie and Miranda.

928
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: We're just in different lanes. You know. It's such a

929
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: weird dynamic because you have all these number one songs.

930
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: Was that rude? I didn't mean to be rude, There's

931
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: no there's a god. I don't want to be I'm

932
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: a huge fan of hers. I didn't want to sound me.

933
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: It's not a very competent I know. I tell you

934
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: to and I'll call you on and be like, hey,

935
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: well and everything's about honestly here. Um. And I love

936
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: Marin's record too. Yes, holy crap. Once, I can't with

937
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: that song. It's for the Grammys. First of all, I

938
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: think are the one You're gonna win the award. You're

939
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna balance, You're gonna kill each other. I think that's

940
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: who I think, Yeah, because I just did the logic

941
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: of it, because here is how to break it down,

942
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: and I think you guys cancel each other out enough

943
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 1: to where it doesn't Um, who's a rock group and

944
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: it could have been the Chain Smokers, but it's they're

945
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: a pop group. And again, the Grammys aren't about commercial.

946
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: Actually go away from that and people vote. I'm a voter.

947
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm a Grammy voter, and I'm probably the only one

948
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: who voted for like all the pop stuff, you know,

949
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: because I just know. So. I think you guys listen

950
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: for the format. I would love if either one of

951
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: you wanted. Yeah, it's a big deal that we're both

952
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: nominated in. It crazy that you both are. I thought

953
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: it was gonna be one of the two of you. Yeah,

954
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder which one it's going to

955
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: and knew it will be one of you. It. Um, Yeah,

956
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: it's a big deal there. There's never been two country

957
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: artists in that category, let alone two chicks. It's a

958
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: big deal. Um, which in itself feels like a victory,

959
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: you know. Um, Yeah, I'm not I'm not prepared to

960
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: win that. I know that and I'm cool with that. Yeah,

961
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: so they they did the things. They don't call your name.

962
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: How do you feel? I mean it happened before that.

963
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: Were you hurt by that? Um? I mean as much

964
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: as much as you should hurt. When I lose that

965
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: it crushes me on the side. I'll be honest, I

966
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: hate it the rewards thing and I don't win. I'm like,

967
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm a complete loss and a failure, and then it

968
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: it motivates me to do more. But I would be honest,

969
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: it sucks to lose. Yeah, I mean I try to

970
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: be really practical going into these kind of things because

971
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: a words are cool, like I have couple there on

972
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: a shelf. It's really fun to show my friends. Um,

973
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. I mean, I'm down with my three

974
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: number ones. It makes me really happy. That makes me

975
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: really happy. Um. And I I don't know I was bombed,

976
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: but I was also like, it makes me it's good,

977
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: it's fine. I would have been bombed. I'd have been

978
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: I would have been like, don't you really realize to

979
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: have number one songs? Like what just the human part

980
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: of might have been like, what what do you guys do? Wing?

981
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: Like how I'm performing. I've got three number ones? Why

982
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: why am I not? If? I think, if anything, it

983
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: probably just fed into that, like I'm not cool. People

984
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: don't think it absolutely. I think that's probably the more

985
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: of the feeling rather than like oh they don't like me,

986
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: or like oh they don't think I'm good. It's like

987
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm just not cool, you know. That's kind of I

988
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: think the insecurity you don't think you know what the

989
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: coolest thing is, though, period is not caring. I know

990
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: I'll get there. I'll get there. I'm not there yet,

991
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: though I'm okay to say that. I don't think anyone

992
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: ever fully gets there. Especially artists were so emotional. We're

993
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: just it's just weird when you create, you're so vulnerable

994
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: because we create and then every and and I'm not

995
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: comparing what I do to you, but we create in

996
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: different lanes. Yeah, Like I wrote that stupid book, and

997
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: I was like Jesus man, like I'm putting it all

998
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: out there and people are gonna tell me I suck

999
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: or I'm good, or you're vulnerable because you created something,

1000
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: and then it's up to everybody else to critake it.

1001
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: And they could take it with their money or their

1002
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: mouths or their keyboards. And we depend on those critics

1003
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:07,560
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1004
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,600
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1027
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: So you have a fiance, you got a new record

1028
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: coming out. Yeah, I want to know about this fiance

1029
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: for a second. Okay, like, what's his deal? Which part?

1030
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: What do you want to know? Let's talk about his music,

1031
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: because he's an artist. I've never I've never heard him

1032
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: saying do you want to hear him saying I'm not

1033
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: against it? I mean I wouldn't be like, let me

1034
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: out of your Yeah I could. I mean yes, it'd

1035
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: be weird for me. It'd be tough for me to

1036
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: be with another artist if I didn't respect what they did.

1037
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: I've always said I would never be with another artist

1038
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: because it's weird. I've dated a songwriter before. It's competitive,

1039
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: it's like awkward, and it's it's just not it's just so.

1040
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: I opened for him in Australia too, which was kind

1041
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: of cool to like, flip that and then he opened

1042
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: for you on your headlining tour. UM, who does it

1043
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: get competitive? I wonder? I mean if he goes out

1044
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: and doesn't have six because most artists don't have success initially,

1045
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: most artist aren't Kelsey. I mean is that I'm just

1046
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: not worried about it. I think he's like, he needs

1047
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: to be successful for you. I think that he he

1048
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: will be successful for me, whatever that means. But I'm

1049
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: so worre. He's so talented and he's everyone loves him

1050
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: that meets him, and so I think that it'll work

1051
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: out how it's supposed to work out for him. He's

1052
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: a really good entertainer. I think that's his strongest suit,

1053
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: Like he writes and all of that. He's a great singer,

1054
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: but he's a really really great entertainer, Like, help me

1055
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: put part of my last show together. What's his deal then? Musically?

1056
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: Is right? Right now? Is the on a label? He's

1057
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: on Warner Australia, UM, and then he's not on a

1058
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: Nashville label yet yet. Yeah, should make black rivers on them?

1059
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: Just nord pass. Yeah, that's interesting. You have to are

1060
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, listen if it were it's a it's a

1061
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: difficult juggling act to be with someone else creative. I'm

1062
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: going to do the same thing. Yeah, you just GE's

1063
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: just too creative people. And but it's also like I

1064
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: think as long as you can separate it, Like there

1065
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: are times where I'm like I need you to tell

1066
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: me what to do in this situation, or like I

1067
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: need your opinion on this, like put your business hat

1068
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: on his name. By the way, that we have never

1069
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: said his name. His name everybody can google. Um. Yeah,

1070
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: but we also will be like, let's just not talk

1071
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: about anything to do with what we do tonight, Like

1072
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: let's talk about our family or friends or something else,

1073
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: like a stupid YouTube video. It doesn't matter anything. Um.

1074
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: And it's cool to be able to like do either.

1075
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, what do you guys have fun doing together?

1076
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 1: What's what's like yours? We travel? We love to travel. Yeah, yeah,

1077
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: we went to um, Hawaii and then we went to

1078
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: Paris and Florence and then like even stuff like Black

1079
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: Gray Farm, like right down the road, just a little getaways,

1080
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: really really good. Fair to say you're making money now finally, Um,

1081
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: this year I started to make a little money. Yet

1082
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: people think when you have a song on the radio

1083
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: immediately become some crazy millionaire. It's opposite. I mean, most

1084
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: artists I know lose money. It's so hard for a

1085
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: long time. The first year, and I remember, this is

1086
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: so caned. I'm getting so much trouble for this radio

1087
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: tour was the hardest time of my life because I

1088
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: was working so hard, um, and for myself, like I

1089
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: was doing it for me, you know, but I was exhausted.

1090
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: And you don't get paid, but everyone around you does.

1091
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: And I happened to be dating my guitar player at

1092
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: the time, so he is getting paid and I wasn't.

1093
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: And I remember there was one time where I couldn't

1094
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: pay my rent when I got home, um, and it

1095
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: was actually it was during my opera debut and all

1096
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: my family and friends were there, and I was like, dude,

1097
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: I asked my parents to pay my rent, like what

1098
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: do I do? And ended up something cool happened. But

1099
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: what happened, I don't know if he'd want me to

1100
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: say someone someone showed up and did it for me,

1101
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: someone that you'll probably take that and help someone else

1102
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: in the same way. Yeah, he's like the coolest person.

1103
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 1: Yeah it was not you that perfect. Uh yeah, but

1104
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,479
Speaker 1: um ready. I mean yeah, that whole time is so

1105
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: hard because you have to support the people that are

1106
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: there to support you, but essentially you're working for yourself,

1107
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's really it's really tough, really tough.

1108
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: You're I'm proud of you, so proud. She's my date

1109
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: to the Grammys. We're going shopping next week. Oh man,

1110
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: that's to call that a tough call. I know you

1111
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: and your mom were close, and your mom moved out

1112
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: here when you're fifteen. We made a deal. When I

1113
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: was like, if you made a deal, we made a deal.

1114
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: We made a deal. I mean, you just got engaged. No,

1115
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna be out there with me just

1116
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: for my sanity purposes, but um yeah, no, I made

1117
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: a deal with my mom was like fourteen, because we

1118
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: used to watch the Grammys together and I was like,

1119
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: when I get to go to the Grammies, you're gonna

1120
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: come with me. You're gonna be my date. And so

1121
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: then it actually happened. So she's my date. That's cool. Yeah,

1122
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm stoked, and she's proud. Does she have pictures up

1123
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: of you? Like all through the years that she makes

1124
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: me these scrap books like Shutterfly scrap books. She made

1125
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: me one for Christmas. And this is so embarrassing. My

1126
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: trainer was over this morning and the books propped up

1127
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: on my shelf and I'm like, hey, look at me

1128
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: with brown hair, and she was like, that's you, jeez,

1129
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: baby fat. And I was like, you're hardcore though, like

1130
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: she was in the military. She is a boss lady

1131
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: for she's um yeah, she's hardcore. She's hardcore. Yeah, um yeah.

1132
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: So my mom keeps all the pictures. That's fun. It's

1133
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: fun to have someone that's been there and your mom moved,

1134
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: moved for you, I know, I know for you as

1135
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: a kid. And I think as you get older too,

1136
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: you'll and when you have kids, you'll probably be liked.

1137
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Like I get it. It's cool too,

1138
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: because she had just started dating her now husband in Knoxville, um,

1139
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: like six months before we moved, and so they kept dating.

1140
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: They don't like they just met started dating. We moved,

1141
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: and then they dated long distance for like seven years.

1142
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: I would say they dated mid distance mid distance Yeah yes, sorry,

1143
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: I distance really for seven years and now he lives

1144
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: out here in the marry and stuff. So what was

1145
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: it like playing back in Knoxville Theater. It was cool.

1146
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I knew that there were a

1147
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 1: lot of people in the audience that like my choir

1148
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: director was there, which like I mean, I could have

1149
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: just died that she was there. Um, my parents were there. Um,

1150
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: A lot of my friends were there. But then there

1151
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: were also like my ex boyfriend was there. Um my

1152
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: like the Peter Pant like high high school. Um uh.

1153
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: There were a couple of people that like, and it

1154
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: happens because you hear the story at the time, but

1155
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: like that, um, aren't really your friends. And then all

1156
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden you have a song on the radio

1157
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: and they're like, Kelsie, here's a picture of us, and

1158
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: you're like seven people away from each other, you know

1159
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: what I mean. Um, there were like a lot of

1160
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: those people there too. So I remember before I went

1161
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: out on stage, I was like, do it for do

1162
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: it for your friends, and do it for your family,

1163
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: but like, do it for the people that are here

1164
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: that like I didn't think you could do it, you know.

1165
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: And I went out and I swear I never like

1166
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: flipped my hair that hard in my life. Like I

1167
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: just went out there and turned it into some one else.

1168
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: But and I was so proud of myself because I

1169
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna be so emotional, and I just

1170
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: like I did the best show I've probably ever done.

1171
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: And then for the encore, I walked out, um into

1172
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: the audience. We always like pick a spot, never know

1173
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: who's gonna be around it. To pick a spot. I

1174
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: walk out with my guitar to play the first time,

1175
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: and I'll walk out and it's my second show of

1176
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: the whole tour. It's my hometown in the theater that

1177
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: my dad used to live above, and I would sneak

1178
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: down into like it's I saw a little big down

1179
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: there I saw. I was like, I mean, it's just

1180
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: like a super special place to me. And I look

1181
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: up and my dad's right in front of me, and

1182
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: to my best friends are like to my right. And

1183
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: then Forest and Jason Mass and my producers surprised me

1184
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: and drove in and they were like on my on

1185
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: my left, and I just looked up at them and

1186
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: I started a bawling. I mean, just like I couldn't

1187
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: even get my my words together. Um. And while it's embarrassing,

1188
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: like why while it's happening, it's a cool moment to

1189
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: look back on. You know, are you writing with tonight?

1190
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm writing with Jimmy Robbins and a chick name Mozilla.

1191
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: She wrote, I came in like, go backing Ball. Oh yeah, yeah.

1192
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: We wrote two days ago and we got two songs

1193
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: and three hours we were like, let's do this again.

1194
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: It's funny. You know, my you sing wrecking Ball. I've

1195
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: become friends with Jesse Alexander. She and she she wrote

1196
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: the climb, but she's not real, not real. I saw

1197
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: her again because I went, um, and I don't I

1198
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: don't get to go to a lot of things. But

1199
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: I went and went to watch Derek's play. There I

1200
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: saw a picture of you. I never I never saw you,

1201
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: but I saw a picture of you at the end.

1202
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: But so I want to watch Drek's And I saw

1203
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: her back there and one on like the A C.

1204
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: M board together and we've got to kind of know

1205
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: each other. And you sing wrecking But she wrote Miley

1206
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: cyrus as a climb, which when she sings her husband

1207
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: are both songwriters. Um. But when she sings that, it's

1208
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: so good. But she wrote, you know, le Bryce, I

1209
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: drive your truck, which I think most country people would

1210
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: go to that first, but I'm always like you sang

1211
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: the climb from Miley Biggest hand on Montana fan, Oh gosh,

1212
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: did you ever go to handa Onontana shows show? Yes,

1213
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: and Jonas Brothers opened really Oh yeah, Knoxville Thomson Boling Arena, yep,

1214
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: they were. That was when I was doing pop radio

1215
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: like the Jonas Brothers people would, I mean, that's how

1216
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: I was. I was like a camp out Jonas Brothers

1217
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: fan Nick played with me on the as Keep everybody country, don't.

1218
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: You can't say anyone country in this nice question growing up?

1219
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: Eliminate all country, just your favorite artists. Give me three

1220
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: artists that you loved, not country, not country. My first

1221
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: concert was Brittany. Um I this makes me sound probably weird.

1222
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: I loved like Frank Sinatra. My dad listened to him

1223
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: all the time in the kitchen. Well that's why because

1224
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: it made me feel like you so Frank Sinatra, that

1225
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: kind of oldies stuff. Um and and I mean, like

1226
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: Hannah Montanda was a big one for me because I

1227
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: wanted to be musician. I was going to school and

1228
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: like I just kind of you feel like you're living well,

1229
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited for I hope. Yeah, always number one, you know,

1230
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: and I know a bit you're kind of like ready

1231
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: for that. I mean, I get it, like you're like,

1232
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the new stuff. Well, but I'm excited

1233
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: to like finish it out on this song. So hopefully

1234
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: it works me too, And I'm ready for the new

1235
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: stuff because I just think everyone's going to see a

1236
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: different picture. And congratulations on the Grammy nominations. Thank you?

1237
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: Are you going out for that? Thinks? I don't think so.

1238
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. I don't like to

1239
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: do stuff. I just don't unless I have to do

1240
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 1: something at it, Like I'll go to the Like I'm

1241
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: on the board of the A C M S And

1242
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: I probably would go to the A C nless I

1243
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: was doing part of the TV. So yeah, I just don't.

1244
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: I just feel pressure that people have to talk to

1245
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: me in places. You're doing the I Heart Festival, Well yeah,

1246
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: but that's my company. I'm hosting it and playing. But

1247
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: that's my company this year. You are playing, which is

1248
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: which is awesome, because it's awesome. I've wanted to it's awesome.

1249
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: It's because it's one It's not like an awards show

1250
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: where it's slow. It's like bam bam bam in the

1251
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: stage flips and I'm so excited we're playing it. We're

1252
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: but we're bringing out somebody to play with us that

1253
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: people are gonna flip out about, which is gonna be crazy.

1254
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: Um the first yeah, that was we We spent a

1255
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: lot of time with cards together, like we did, like

1256
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: not even busses. And you know, we're both now to

1257
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: the point where we take busses to we're you know,

1258
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: and we're definitely different and you're a real life thing

1259
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: and I'm an entertainer. We entertained, but we get take

1260
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: busses now. Back in the day, we were taking a

1261
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: small van or an suv and driving like six hours.

1262
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: And now we're like, like Kelsey, get the catr on

1263
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: playing something while we drive for three hours, Gonna sit

1264
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: the back and just play it forever. Ago. I mean,

1265
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it's freaking radio show is twenty years old,

1266
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: and it's are you can have years old? I feel like, yeah,

1267
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: it's not four years yet, and then I like your record,

1268
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: you probably feel like it's again it's not ten years.

1269
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: But it's cool. It's been weird to watch you go

1270
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: from a baby to where you are now and the

1271
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: ups and downs and our ups and downs because we

1272
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: were really close and then not close and then really close.

1273
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: Like but but through all of that, like I've always

1274
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: been like a call away regardless and the probably a

1275
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: time we're let's we're on the same label too, like

1276
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: Full of Close were also on the same record label,

1277
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: and I'm doing comedy projects with the label, like not

1278
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: even music and our lives and our career they're very

1279
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: they are, and that's why I was like, let me

1280
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: see if I can see anything on the internet. I

1281
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: don't know about Kelsey, which is this is the weirdest

1282
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: Bobby cast because it's like I'm on with somebody from

1283
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: my show almost that I just know everything about, Like

1284
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: I almost know every answer to every question I'm gonna

1285
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: ask them, So it's difficult for me. I will always

1286
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: root for you. It's been it's been weird. It's been weird.

1287
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: But I just hope that you keep doing you because

1288
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: at times it's hard not to do you. And I

1289
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: say that just in general, and I'm happy that you are.

1290
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: And I'm excited about the second record because I've heard

1291
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: some stuff and it's just different. It's different French record.

1292
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't give opinions on that stuff anymore. I do,

1293
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: I thought I do, but yeah I don't do. You know. Yeah,

1294
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: it's a weird thing now because I have friends and

1295
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: even my girlfriend. I don't tell her what songs you

1296
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, let's talk about that. You can

1297
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: talk about it if you want. But here's the thing

1298
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: that I tell her because she's you know, you know,

1299
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: putting together record. She's finally like, screw it, I'm just

1300
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: putting together my O on kind of record. She's like,

1301
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: I've done what they wanted me to do, and I've done.

1302
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: I've made singles that they wanted me to make. Again

1303
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: that that was a song. But now she's like, you

1304
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: know who I am. I'm I'm a I'm a country

1305
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: blues player. She's like, and this is what this is

1306
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: the record I want to make. So she's making it

1307
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: and I listen to songs, but I don't go that's

1308
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,479
Speaker 1: for the radio. My only talk with her is would

1309
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: I buy it? And I'll be like, you know what,

1310
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't buy that song, but I see where it

1311
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: would fit on a record. But there's a weird relationship

1312
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: and it's in a way. Even with you, if you

1313
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: were like, hey, what do you think I would be,

1314
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't be like, oh that's radio. I'd be like, yeah,

1315
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: i'd buy it, or I wouldn't buy it. That's an

1316
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: interesting perspective because I have to. I'm so you're you're biased,

1317
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: even if you don't want to be your bias. And

1318
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: then I go because she has songs, I'd be like,

1319
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: I would download that, and then she has songs be like,

1320
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't, but I do see where it

1321
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: fits in this record that in her should recommend a

1322
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But um, it's a thing. Oh yeah,

1323
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: she's she makes me a normal human because I'm not,

1324
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: and she drags it out at me. Yeah, she's a

1325
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: good human. And Morgan play does the same thing for you.

1326
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: It just introduces a different side of you, even to yourself. Yeah,

1327
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: where you're like, wow, I didn't realized i'd be that

1328
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: comfortable being like this. Yeah that's awesome. So we'll not good,

1329
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: but it's good. Well, congratulations, thanks man, And you know,

1330
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: if you win the Grammy, that's awesome, and if you don't,

1331
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I'll wear a pretty dress and I'll sit

1332
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: near Beyonce and that's enough. And when and here's the

1333
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: thing you have to again at times, take and look

1334
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: at it from far away. Let's say, odds are you're

1335
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: a man, neither one are gonna win. You're not gonna win,

1336
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: because it's just looking at the math of it. In

1337
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: two or three years, you'll look back and go, that

1338
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: was the coolest thing ever. Even though you're kind of

1339
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit sad when you don't win,

1340
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna look back and go. So just go. And

1341
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: it's something that I've had to learn how to do

1342
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: and just almost take mental pictures to remember how cool

1343
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: it is. You just started videoing everything on my phone,

1344
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: like every right, every like do you want people hack

1345
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: and steal your stuff? All the time? I get hacked

1346
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: all the time all the time. There was a right,

1347
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: it sucks. It's so stressful. It is so stressful. I

1348
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: had to call Twitter and they don't have a number

1349
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: you look up in the on the internet. That had

1350
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: to be like, guy, does that need help because I'm

1351
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: getting hacked all the time all the time. Do they

1352
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: ever steal your music? I there's a live link on

1353
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: eBay right now of like half my next record, really,

1354
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: and there's nothing you can do. It's so frustrating. It's

1355
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: so frustrating. I'm like, if you hack my phone, you're

1356
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of pictures of my dog, which

1357
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: is fine, and my contacts, which is probably what people want.

1358
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: You know. This is my address book, yeah, which is

1359
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: super annoying. You are cool, You are cool with your

1360
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: address book. I'm not. That's not what I'm do, you know,

1361
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: Hayley Steinfeld, I not, No, you should kind of like

1362
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: that song? Was that? No? I love that song and

1363
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: I met her maybe once. Um, but we're not. We're

1364
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: not buds and you need to be yet. That's a

1365
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: good song. I like that. That's a that's a Haley

1366
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: z I love That's Beaches in Town writing right now.

1367
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: He is, and you know who he's writing with because Keith.

1368
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: But I was just okay. So I'm a huge Walker

1369
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: Hayes fan. I don't know if you know Walker. So

1370
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: he's opening for me on my comedy tour. The Internet

1371
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: my favorite have you heard shut Up? Kenny? I've heard

1372
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: listen have you heard shut Up? Kenny? It makes me

1373
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: want to never write another song. Ah Walker song made

1374
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: me go why why? Is anybody's even trying, Like like,

1375
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: he's at the next level and he works in a

1376
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: tiny shed and he works on old, crappy equipment of

1377
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: producing equipment that's so old that when people come in there,

1378
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: you go, dude, I can't this doesn't match like with

1379
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: my current computers. But he he's a freak. Yeah. I

1380
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: don't even think we've met in person ever, but I

1381
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: just like randomly comment on and stuff and be like, hey,

1382
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: you're good. It's just differently. The Halloween song he plays

1383
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: that with in Niketa things, the girl part, Oh my gosh,

1384
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: it's too good. No, it's it's like Halloween. You look

1385
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: at you go, this is gonna be dumb Halloween. But

1386
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 1: Walker has a song called Halloween, and it's like I

1387
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: don't have to pretend anymore. I can put all my

1388
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: my mask and my cakes and stuff down with you.

1389
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's just like that's that's the thing

1390
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: that is song running and it's fun. And you're like,

1391
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: it's rare to hear and feel things anymore, like us

1392
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: too when we hear stuff all the time. But all

1393
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: that being said, thumbs up to you. This is just

1394
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: the beginning of it, and it's a roller coaster and

1395
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna have you down, but you can have some

1396
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: huge ups and it's really cool to build a man

1397
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: to be able to watch and hopefully one day I'll

1398
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: get to see a picture of your wedding. That would

1399
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: be cool. Oh my gosh, a wedding. Yeah, that would

1400
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: be cool. That's when you say no, you're going to

1401
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: be invited. You are well. I don't know if a

1402
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: wedding will happen, but if it does, of course you're invited. Man,

1403
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: you heard it here, tell us, tell Morgan us hello,

1404
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: and I hope, I hope everything is fantastic than you

1405
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: Kelsey Valerie? What episodes has been? You are episode? We've

1406
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: been trying to work this out for a while, but

1407
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: both of us have been gone. It worked out and

1408
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 1: I will say too, and I don't say this, and

1409
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: I will bring it up to people if they show

1410
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: up and it's different. But they're about five of you

1411
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: ever that just show up by yourself, and that's so cool.

1412
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: Who two of the five were? You and Maren po

1413
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: both like, I'm just down, I don't have a made

1414
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: with me. Let's just talk and to me, that's that's

1415
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: a that's a cool human thing, like regardless of music

1416
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: or anything else. It's like, I'm just coming over. I'm

1417
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: not bringing my manager, I'm not bringing my people. Just

1418
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: sit down a talk. And so when you showed up,

1419
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Kelsey, gonna show up, but there are

1420
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: we also have mutual friends, so it would have been

1421
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: she dropped me off. Megan literally dropped me off like

1422
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: a mom. So yeah, it's good. I'm glad you can.

1423
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. All right, Kels Baleria, this has

1424
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: been Um, I know that boy cat, how do you feel?

1425
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: It went good? So fun. I don't know why you

1426
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: freaked out about the marathing, but what you said nothing

1427
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: even remote. My god, No, I don't know. I just

1428
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: get really nervous people. People get weird and like, you know,

1429
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: and these chairs are comfortable, and you just start saying stuff,

1430
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: you know, And then I was rocking in my chair

1431
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: and I don't know what. All Right, we're gonna go,

1432
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, Kelsey, and good luck with life next time