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Speaker 2: Ain't nothing gonna slow me down?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I got to.

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Speaker 4: Ain't nothing gonna break a moss trying.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't drink?

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Speaker 4: That's a fire song. What made you think of that?

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Speaker 5: Don't don't, don't, don't get doom boom?

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Speaker 4: The only song I can fucking hear because I'm back

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Speaker 4: in the city is the ice cream truck song. Because

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Speaker 4: I'm back and it's ninety five degrees, It's ninety five degrees, right,

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Speaker 4: and I don't and all I hear all day long

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Speaker 4: is did didn't? Did d duck that that I went googled.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to slow the guy's hustle, right, I'm

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Speaker 4: not trying to funk with it.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't never destroy someone.

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Speaker 4: Else's I know, but listen, is.

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Speaker 5: Making money on your block, man.

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Speaker 4: Let him make his money. I'm not trying to slow

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Speaker 4: google how long are you allowed to play ice cream

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Speaker 4: truck music in Manhattan? And he's allowed three minutes legally,

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Speaker 4: and then he has to keep moving. He can turn

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't have the heart to tell him, but I

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Speaker 4: want to, right, you.

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Speaker 1: Want to go down and be freaking kin po the Weasel.

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Speaker 4: Listen, if you're listening to this podcast wherever you are

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Speaker 4: in the world, I want you to imagine there's an

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Speaker 4: he's playing Pop Goes the Weasel all fucking day. Goddamn.

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Speaker 4: At a certain point, you become Nicholson in the Shining

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Speaker 4: and you're like, I need to break his truck. All right, Joelle,

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Speaker 4: how is Beyonce? We can talk about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry to the audience. My voice sounds horriendous

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Speaker 1: Last night.

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Speaker 2: This was on her fucking birthday. It was the fourth

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Speaker 4: This is ridiculous that you have no voice, because she

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Speaker 2: Every song. Then Diana Ross came out. I thought I

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Speaker 1: Was going to come out.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there was rumors, but I hadn't read it before.

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Speaker 2: Diana Ross, really, oh my god, I had happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: It was beyond my birthday. So she led the crowd

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Speaker 4: Was your voice?

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Speaker 3: No MoU?

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Speaker 4: How was Diane? How did Diana Ross sound? Does she

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Speaker 4: sound good?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. You know, some people get older, they

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Speaker 2: And whoever was running sound had two flops that night.

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Speaker 2: got therehanda good? So fine? Which is our football stadium?

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Speaker 1: For those people who don't were those out there same place?

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Speaker 4: Joel, I saw your outfit. It was very unique. You

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Speaker 2: you know, she doesn't perform everything. So he was there,

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Speaker 5: I did get on stage and say all I need

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Speaker 4: Yeah, why didn't he come on stage?

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Speaker 4: So you see, Donald and I went to Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 4: We weren't trying to fuck with leaving with seventy thousand people,

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Speaker 2: So she comes out, she's her own opening So k

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Speaker 2: The gays were on their feet for like five minutes,

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Speaker 2: Yes, when she was like twelve, they're very young. Before

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Speaker 4: Could you imagine being in that moment.

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Speaker 7: Beyonce looks at you and sings your song?

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Speaker 2: Your song. You melt into the floor like amazing, there's

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Speaker 1: So cool that everybody's like what an asshole.

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Speaker 4: On the other what if the four of us were

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: I know that loves this podcast.

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Speaker 1: She listens. She talks about it all the time. Podcast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's an avid listener.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 4: Than someone told me that Governor Whitmer she's the governor

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Speaker 4: of Michigan. Is that correct? Well, there are politics experts

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Speaker 4: that she posted a scrubs gift Donald of us.

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Speaker 1: Sh she was.

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Speaker 4: It was about some healthcare achievement in her state, and

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Speaker 4: she posted a gift of you and I fist bumping.

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Speaker 4: Nice Daniel, you could look that up. I think it

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Speaker 1: Negative stuff I found already.

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Speaker 4: No, she was what is it, Daniel, She was bragging

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Speaker 7: More Michiganders are going to be able to access the

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Speaker 7: health care services they need. We're boosting Medicaid reimbursement rates,

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Speaker 7: investing in our Healthy Mom's Healthy Babies program, and expanding

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Speaker 7: access to mental health services.

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Speaker 4: Pounded between you two, that's it's you and me.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about, baby, Yeah, that's what I'm

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have my sound effects machine, so you're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you that that that's food. Tang forever, Tang forever. Oh,

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Speaker 4: Honor me, you wanted me, you wanted me, you wanner me.

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Speaker 4: We have an exciting guest today. What what wooll tank forever?

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Speaker 4: We have an exciting guest Elizabeth Banks on the program.

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Speaker 4: We are bringing the guests, we are booking them one

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Speaker 4: by one, and we also secured yeah, Dane, I don't

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Speaker 4: We also secured another exciting guest for Pete Holmes, the

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Speaker 4: comedian that I love very much, is going to be

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Speaker 4: coming on the podcast. Donald, Feel free to reach out

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Speaker 4: the podcast. You know Alicia Silverstone, You know Alicia? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but should more likely say yes to you than me?

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Speaker 4: I get shy around Alicia to this day.

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Speaker 5: I love that because that doesn't happen often. Man, with you,

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Speaker 4: You are the Aerosmith videos. The Aerosmith videos really made

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Speaker 1: I saw something I saw. I don't know how I

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Speaker 4: The bridge the finger, yeah.

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Speaker 1: To Stephen Dwarf, Yeah, that's a good one. Was that.

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Speaker 1: I was crying when I met you.

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Speaker 2: Try if I get you you.

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Speaker 4: That was that was a fires.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that she was are you kidding me? And

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Speaker 5: You could put those two together. It's like the same song.

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Speaker 4: So what ended up happening? Did you have I forgot

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Speaker 6: In fact, when you go first of all, you use agencies.

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Speaker 6: They they're already moms, you know, like they don't want

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Speaker 5: You go through it all and then the people get

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Speaker 4: Not even your it's not even you just renting your oven. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: You can do it. You do whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, and you can also be like it was horrible.

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Speaker 4: Right, let's switch, please.

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Speaker 6: Let's switch even come up.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, we love it. We thought it was

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Speaker 4: We want to be informative. Second, no, I'm I honestly,

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Speaker 4: when people come on here and they explain something to

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Speaker 4: I want to talk about. You have the most incredible

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Speaker 4: to go back to the very beginning. Okay, now, I

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Speaker 4: first remember seeing you on in Catch Me as you Can.

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Speaker 4: But was Spider Man your first big thing?

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: It was like because I there was an Elizabeth Mitchell.

446
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Speaker 6: She's a fabulous actress. She was on Lost for many years.

447
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Speaker 6: She's also blonde haired and blue eyed. That's my real name,

448
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Speaker 6: Elizabeth Mitchell for all the listeners who don't know. My

449
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Speaker 6: real name is Elizabeth Mitchell. And I had to change

450
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Speaker 6: my name when we were making because it was getting

451
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Speaker 6: too confusing. I was living in New York, so was

452
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Speaker 6: Elizabeth the other Elizabeth Mitchell. I was using like three names.

453
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Speaker 6: I couldn't give up my first name. And I figured, well,

454
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Speaker 6: women changed their last name when they get married. Not

455
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Speaker 6: that I was planning to, but some some do you know,

456
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Speaker 6: that's something that happens. So okay, let me figure this out.

457
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Speaker 6: I got to get a new last name. And all

458
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Speaker 6: the guys in what Hot were like, you know, we're

459
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Speaker 6: gonna we're gonna put you in the credits, like this

460
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Speaker 6: is going to be a cult classic, which is what

461
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 6: we all believed when we made it. And and so

462
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Speaker 6: I changed my name for you know, to Elizabeth Banks.

463
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Speaker 6: I'm in the credits. We that movie goes to Sundance

464
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Speaker 6: and it's a huge Sundance and this is like in

465
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Speaker 6: the heyday of Sundance.

466
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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, what year do you remember?

467
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Speaker 6: Two thousand one? Yeah, yeah, two thousand and two thousand

468
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Speaker 6: and one, and you know, this is like four or

469
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Speaker 6: five years after sex Salize and Videotape and like all

470
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Speaker 6: you know where it really became like movies were getting

471
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Speaker 6: bought out of it, stars were getting made out.

472
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Speaker 4: Of these movies, right, Yeah, Garden State was two thousand

473
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Speaker 4: and three there, so it was like it was the

474
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Speaker 4: Eye of the Storm exactly.

475
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Speaker 6: So so I get there, I'm in this little movie

476
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Speaker 6: that could we the movie. I think it's you know,

477
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Speaker 6: it's a big, big hole deal. And I met my

478
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Speaker 6: manager there, well, I met managers there, and then I

479
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 6: developed my relationship with my manager there. I got the

480
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Speaker 6: audition basically through those connections that I made literally at

481
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Speaker 6: dance parties at two o'clock in the morning after midnight

482
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Speaker 6: showing of Wade American Summer for Spider Man, and so

483
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Speaker 6: then I was auditioning to be Mary Jane Watson in

484
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Speaker 6: The New Spider Man with Toby maguire and so like

485
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 6: those kinds of things all happened out of that movie

486
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Speaker 6: and through that auditioning process and getting to know the

487
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Speaker 6: casting directors, which I'd been working in New York steadily.

488
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Speaker 6: I had done all the TV shows in New York

489
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Speaker 6: that you could basically do back then, which was Sex

490
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Speaker 6: and the City, Third Watch was on, Yeah, and uh,

491
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Speaker 6: and of course Law and Order, and I was on

492
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Speaker 6: the Law. I was on Law and Order s.

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Speaker 1: V U, Law Order and Law and Order SVU.

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Speaker 6: Now only s VU.

495
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Speaker 4: They're the same, They're the same universe. They are right,

496
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Speaker 4: they are so once you're once you're a victim on

497
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Speaker 4: one you can't be a victim on the other.

498
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Speaker 1: You could be a victim like nine times.

499
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Speaker 6: Really I wish I was the murderer so they didn't.

500
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Speaker 4: Have Oh, spoiler, spoiler.

501
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Speaker 6: I was very very memorable. Guys, you would love this episode.

502
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Speaker 6: I played a porn star on. My husband was Mark.

503
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Speaker 6: My husband on the show was Mark Paul Gossler. I

504
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Speaker 6: love her, m hm. He also he did gay porn

505
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Speaker 6: show and the two of us our dream was. My

506
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Speaker 6: character's dream was to go to Vegas to be in

507
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Speaker 6: a gang bang so she could get on the Howard

508
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Speaker 6: Stern Show show and get and get more money, you know,

509
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Speaker 6: make bigger money because we had a sick kid and

510
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Speaker 6: blah blah blah. Anyway, we end up, we end up

511
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Speaker 6: my husband and I end up conspiring to murder this like, uh,

512
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Speaker 6: this producer, this this porn producer for for cash. I

513
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Speaker 6: don't actually remember how it all down at the end.

514
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Speaker 4: Dan, I'm going to need that link found.

515
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Speaker 6: It's a fan. It's absolutely fantastic. I really couldn't be prouder.

516
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Speaker 6: I really played it to the hill. I'm still kind

517
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Speaker 6: of friendly with Marishka harget Day off that show. She

518
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Speaker 6: gave me some really good advice when I was on

519
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Speaker 6: that show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I has a much beloved figure. People. People are

521
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Speaker 4: obsessed with her.

522
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. When you when you

523
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Speaker 1: hit did Marishka ever and you saw her? Was she like,

524
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Speaker 1: holy shit, I remember you from fucking.

525
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Speaker 4: Sbu Yeah, when you were the poor star?

526
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Speaker 6: Yes, the answer the answer is yes, yes, how well

527
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Speaker 6: I look, I have to give a little Chris her

528
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Speaker 6: co star was in what had American Summer?

529
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Speaker 1: Got it?

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, maloney, maloney. He was on Scrubs too.

531
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Speaker 6: Yeah, maloney, Maloney. Chris Maloney was on was in What

532
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Speaker 6: Had American Summer, And so I think she also it's

533
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Speaker 6: not like it's not like I lived in a universe

534
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Speaker 6: that she had no idea about. I think she she

535
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Speaker 6: saw saw me in that as well.

536
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Speaker 1: I have a very similar story with Wesley Snipes.

537
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Speaker 5: Actually I did a guest star in one of his

538
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Speaker 5: mini television shows where like you, he had a show

539
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Speaker 5: in New York and he was the star of it,

540
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Speaker 5: one of the stars of it, and I guest starred

541
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Speaker 5: on it. And I wasn't even in a scene with him,

542
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Speaker 5: but I remember he walked me and my mom to

543
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Speaker 5: the subway station. Like five years later I get I

544
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Speaker 5: get this movie sugar Hill, and he remembered me. Or

545
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Speaker 5: three years later sugar Hill and he remembered me just

546
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Speaker 5: from the walk to the And I think he was trying.

547
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Speaker 1: To bang my mom. To be honest with you, you.

548
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Speaker 8: Know what I mean.

549
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Speaker 4: That's a good story.

550
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Speaker 6: Blade Blade had sex with Blade.

551
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Speaker 1: You know, my mom was pretty hot when she was younger.

552
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm keeping one hundred, like, and this ain't

553
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Speaker 5: me just saying this ain't just me being like in

554
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Speaker 5: love with his mama, Like all little boys are. My

555
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 5: mom was fine, man, like that ship would it would

556
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 5: used to be a pain in the ass to like

557
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 5: take the subway home like she would be with kids

558
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 5: and motherfuckers would still be like, hey, hey, duck skin,

559
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Speaker 5: hey like your hardcore, can I walk home?

560
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Speaker 1: I remember?

561
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Speaker 5: My mom would be so tired of carrying us. She'd

562
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Speaker 5: be like, fucking y'all, can walk me to the end

563
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Speaker 5: of this motherfucking to the end of when the turnstile

564
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Speaker 5: is there, and then we're gonna say goodbye.

565
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Speaker 1: Take my kids.

566
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Speaker 5: And I'd be like walking with some fucking dude, like

567
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Speaker 5: who the fuck this motherfucker?

568
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

569
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Speaker 2: But my mom would ever be like so funny.

570
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Speaker 5: Eleven o'clock at night, My pops is at the theater

571
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Speaker 5: working at National Black Theater, working, and she's on the

572
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Speaker 5: way home with us by herself, and we'll be in

573
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Speaker 5: little bitches.

574
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Speaker 1: Pick me up, Mama, pick me up, you know what

575
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Speaker 1: I mean. And she's like, fuck you too.

576
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Speaker 5: You could take my kids and help me to the

577
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Speaker 5: motherfucking you want to really be of service.

578
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Speaker 4: Guy the guy and fine, fine, I'll hold your kids right.

579
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

580
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Speaker 6: It's like a like a payment for the harassment is not.

581
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Speaker 6: She was.

582
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Speaker 4: All right, so Ebanks. Then you get on an enormous movie,

583
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Speaker 4: Spider Man. That must have been a switch from a smaller,

584
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Speaker 4: little indie like.

585
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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean I'd only been I'd only

586
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Speaker 6: ever made indies. It was the first time I think

587
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Speaker 6: I saw like Dolly track and stuff, you know what

588
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Speaker 6: I mean.

589
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Speaker 4: It was they could afford they could afford Dolly.

590
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Speaker 6: I've been on I've been on a couple of you know,

591
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 6: decent TV shows, but yeah, this was this was really cool.

592
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 6: It was also though, you know what's the most interesting

593
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Speaker 6: thing about it for me is because I remember it

594
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Speaker 6: so well, is so I played Betty. I ended up

595
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Speaker 6: playing Betty Brandon the movies. I did not get the

596
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 6: role of Mary Jeane Watson. That went too and I

597
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Speaker 6: was literally, I was literally told she too old. I'm

598
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Speaker 6: the same age as Toby maguire. All you need to know.

599
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 6: That's how Hollywood works, everybody. So I so I learned

600
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Speaker 6: that lesson real early on. And anyway, I played Betty

601
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Speaker 6: Brandt in the movie, which was like a consolation prize,

602
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Speaker 6: which was fine, I'll take it. And and I got

603
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Speaker 6: to work with JK. Simmons in Spider Man who's the

604
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Speaker 6: genius in these really fun what we kind of thought

605
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Speaker 6: of as the comic relief of the movie. And uh,

606
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Speaker 6: at any rate, I was on set for the end

607
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Speaker 6: of I want to say it's I don't know one

608
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Speaker 6: or two I forget, and I was watching Sam Raimi

609
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Speaker 6: the director, work with Bill Pope, the DP, and they

610
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Speaker 6: were setting up a shot and pretty much all the

611
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Speaker 6: time the shots were like you knew you came to set,

612
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Speaker 6: they knew what was happening. You know, there was not

613
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Speaker 6: a lot of room for like farting around. But because

614
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Speaker 6: we were just like in the office and it was

615
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Speaker 6: a little it was a built set, they could do

616
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Speaker 6: whatever they wanted with it. You know, we could move

617
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Speaker 6: the camera or whatever. I think they just thought like

618
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Speaker 6: it was a little less determined what was gonna happen. Sonday,

619
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Speaker 6: I got to watch Sam and Bill Pope decide how

620
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Speaker 6: they were gonna set up this one big shot of

621
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Speaker 6: j Jonah Jamison getting mad and whatever in the movie

622
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Speaker 6: for the very end of the film, I'm letting my

623
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Speaker 6: dog out because he's gonna keep going crazy until I

624
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Speaker 6: let him out. And in that moment, I thought, so

625
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Speaker 6: I watched them do it, and I thought, oh, okay, Well,

626
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Speaker 6: if I were setting this shot up, here's how I

627
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Speaker 6: would do it. I would push the dada and I

628
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Speaker 6: would push in and I would use this and I

629
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Speaker 6: would da da da. And it was the first time

630
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Speaker 6: that I thought, why am I directing this? Something in

631
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Speaker 6: my head like what am I doing? Like, God, this

632
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Speaker 6: isn't what I'm supposed to be doing. And then Sam

633
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Speaker 6: and Bill Pope set the shot up exactly how I

634
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Speaker 6: would have done it.

635
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Speaker 4: Wow, And I thought.

636
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 6: Oh wow that I asked, maybe I know something about something,

637
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 6: you know, Like it was like a seed in me

638
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 6: that was like, oh, well, it can't be that hard.

639
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 6: I figured that out. It's a genius, you know.

640
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Speaker 4: So that's the first moment. That's the first moment. That's

641
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Speaker 4: the first moment you remember being like, hmm, maybe I'll

642
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Speaker 4: direct one day.

643
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Speaker 6: It was the first moment that I really remember thinking

644
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 6: that there were that there were not really obstacles to

645
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 6: doing it for me, do you know what I mean.

646
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people think that they're well,

647
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 6: I don't know how the camera works, or I don't

648
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 6: know about light, I don't know what the gaffer does.

649
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 6: It's like you go on a couple of sets and like,

650
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Speaker 6: you know, and if you if you're a if you're

651
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 6: a storyteller and you have a visual sense, because it's

652
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 6: a visual medium, and I remind people of that. That's

653
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 6: the problem I find with directors who don't understand you're

654
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 6: telling the story in pictures. You know, there's people too

655
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 6: that like have these scripts and they're they're so set

656
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 6: on the the script and the words, and the words

657
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 6: matter the most. And I'm always like, then, write novels,

658
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 6: because that is not number one thing when you get

659
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 6: to a movie set. You know the words, you have

660
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 6: to have the story, and you have to have the characters,

661
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Speaker 6: but then you have to collaborate with everybody to figure

662
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Speaker 6: out how to bring it to life in pictures. And anyway,

663
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 6: I think that was the first time that I really

664
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 6: remember thinking that I that I was like, oh my gosh,

665
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 6: I'm I came up with something that Sam Raimi and

666
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 6: Bill Pope came up with and that just made me

667
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 6: really excited, like just set a little fire inside me.

668
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 5: That's really like what you incredibly like what you just

669
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 5: said that it's about telling stories and pictures. A lot

670
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 5: of people try to tell stories with words, and it

671
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 5: really does the process for me at least that's just

672
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 5: for me, you know.

673
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 4: And also as an actor, when you get on a

674
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: set and the and the director doesn't know anything about

675
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: the camera, really, I find that frustrating because we've all,

676
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: as actor, has been on a set where sometimes they

677
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: lean towards being able to really direct actors well in acting.

678
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: Sometimes they lean towards being more of a techie guy

679
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: who knows how to the camera stuff in a in

680
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: a really incredible way. Then there's then there's people who

681
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: are the ideal who can do both. They're gonna move

682
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: the camera in a cool way, They're gonna they're gonna

683
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: have a sense of the tech stuff, but also aren't

684
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: unable to come to you and have an intelligent conversation

685
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: about what you should be feeling as an actor.

686
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 6: That's right, Yeah, Well, and who trusts you? Like I

687
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 6: remember on the set of Catch Me If You Can,

688
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 6: Which is funny that you mentioned that movie too, The

689
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 6: thing I learned on that sit.

690
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: With Spielberg, Yeah, the thing I learned from Stevie.

691
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 6: Can you learned that I learned from Steven Spielberg? Well, besides,

692
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 6: you know, he was so relaxed, he sat in video Village.

693
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 6: He was so generous with that. I mean, why why

694
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 6: do I get to go stand next to Steven Spielberg

695
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 6: and sit in video Village? I just did it, guys.

696
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 6: It was a real real I was not you know,

697
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 6: I'm was somebody who's like, I don't know, I won

698
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 6: the job. I have a right to be here, so

699
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 6: I'm gonna come over and stand with the director of

700
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 6: the scene.

701
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

702
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 6: That seemed natural to me, and so he was obviously

703
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 6: so generous with that too, because not every director wants

704
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 6: actors in video village, right, But he was. He was cool,

705
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 6: and we had these a couple of really incredible conversations.

706
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 6: But the main thing I noticed about him was he

707
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 6: was so relaxed. A couple things. He was so relaxed

708
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 6: in Video Village because he is literally working with the

709
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 6: best of the best of the best. He has total

710
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 6: trust in every department, right. He knows that. You know,

711
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: I'm sure there's never enough time and money to make anything,

712
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 6: no matter who you are, how big of a director

713
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 6: you're are. But he was real relaxed making that movie,

714
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 6: Like I trust I trust my DP, I trust my

715
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 6: set designer, I trust my locations matter trust. You know,

716
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 6: every I trust costumes, I trust makeup, so everybody. There

717
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 6: was just this wonderful communal sense of like everyone working

718
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 6: in the same direction. And he clearly gave everybody their

719
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 6: own sense of power over their departments, which not every

720
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 6: director does, right, So that was something that I really

721
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 6: saw him do, which I thought was amazing. And then

722
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 6: the other thing is that he is editing while he goes,

723
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 6: and not everybody is that. So he was very open

724
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 6: to allowing actors to kind of flow and like maybe

725
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 6: the end of the scene isn't the last word, and

726
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 6: you kind of go a little over, you build up

727
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 6: a little bit, or you know, there's you could you

728
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 6: could play inside of things. He was not rigid about

729
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 6: it at all. But he also would be like, I'm

730
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 6: never gonna I'm gonna cut out here, I'm never gonna

731
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 6: get that. Well, let's just like and very clear about

732
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 6: it with the actors, not like you did a bad job,

733
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 6: I don't like your improv just like that's just the end.

734
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 6: This scene ends here, so naturally, so why I'm not

735
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 6: going to need that and you just and it actually

736
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 6: gave you a real sense of like he's crafting the movie.

737
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 6: The whole time, And as a director, I found that

738
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 6: to be really interesting to watch somebody who's like, oh,

739
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 6: I know, no, no, I know exactly the ride that

740
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 6: I want to take the audience on.

741
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is where it ends, I think when you

742
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: get to directing for myself too, especially when you're not

743
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 4: on that kind of Spielberg pace, when you're on when

744
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: I'm usually on, which is a single camera comedy pace

745
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: or an indie pace, you have to be thinking like,

746
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 4: all right, I'm going to have to cut shots for time.

747
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: What am I really going to use totally? And you

748
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: have to be shooting like that, being like, I can't

749
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: do six takes of this, master, I'm gonna be in

750
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: it for two seconds. I gotta just get all right,

751
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 4: two takes is fine. Good that I gotta get into

752
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 4: the meat of this because I'm running out of fucking time,

753
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: you know. So I learned that myself from watching directors

754
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: and watching particularly where most of my education was, which

755
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 4: was which was Scrubs. You know we did it was

756
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 4: it was watching all of those great actors who directed Scrubs,

757
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 4: who figured out how they could execute making an episode

758
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: of Scrubs in five days, which is such a which

759
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 4: was such good training for making indie movies, as you know,

760
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: really for.

761
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 6: Making anything, because it's about what's essential. I mean, Spielberg

762
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 6: was doing that on just on a larger scale. Right,

763
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 6: He's going like, I know what's essential to tell the story.

764
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 6: He's got more planning and more storyboarding and more time

765
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 6: and more, you know, and all the best apartment heads

766
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 6: and everybody's ideas have already been sort of intermixed by

767
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 6: the time he's there. Whereas you know that on indie

768
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 6: films you're kind of having to sometimes you have a

769
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 6: grand plan, but it's all once it goes sideways. There's

770
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 6: no extra money to like have the extra hour of

771
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 6: the day. So now you've got to go like, okay, wait, wait,

772
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 6: I had a plan. I wanted all these beautiful things,

773
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 6: but what is essential to tell the story? And that's

774
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 6: a great exercise to do. And you, I know you

775
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 6: do commercials too, and I find that's even sometimes even

776
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 6: more demanding. It it's such a different storytelling structure, right,

777
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 6: like yeah, in thirty seconds or forty forty five seconds,

778
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 6: fifteen seconds, like I got to introduce this idea of

779
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 6: the audience, I got to surprise them in some way

780
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 6: so that they didn't see it coming. So it's memorable.

781
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 6: And then I got to wrap it up with like,

782
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 6: and I gotta sell the whole time.

783
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

784
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: Well, and you have to and you have to do

785
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: what the advertisers want you to do.

786
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

787
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 5: So plan is you're trying to make it so that

788
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 5: your plan is actually their plan. Their plan checked them

789
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 5: into thinking this is your plan.

790
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 6: We're doing it totally.

791
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell us a little about it. Did you have

792
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: to audition with Leonardo DiCaprio for that movie or did

793
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: you just do it on your own?

794
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 6: No, I just did it on my own. I still

795
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 6: remember that audition though, because I remember what was Debzay,

796
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 6: who I use as my casting director on a lot

797
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 6: of things I love, and she cast Seabiscuit as well,

798
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 6: So catch me if you can. That audition. I just

799
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 6: remember we were supposed to be dancing or whatever, and

800
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 6: I did like I'm going to do it in this

801
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 6: little box right here.

802
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: I was.

803
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 6: I went like, oh my god, and then I sort

804
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 6: of like threw myself like out of the frame, like

805
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 6: I like wiped I like wiped frame at the end

806
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 6: with like while I was like giddaly laughing and being

807
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 6: danced off my feet or whatever. And I remember doing that,

808
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 6: and I think that's what got me the job.

809
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: What did you mean her laugh?

810
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 6: I mean I think we I have a I have

811
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 6: a I have a pretty good laugh. I have a

812
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 6: laugh that you know people remember, And I think that's

813
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 6: probably what got it for me, Right, was like like,

814
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 6: I you know, you giggle box, like like you know,

815
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 6: like Leonardo DiCaprio and something. It's not hard to imagine, right,

816
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 6: Leonardo DiCaprio when you're twenty five years old.

817
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 5: Listen, I think every dude on the planet it was

818
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: either Brad Pitton fight Club or Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic.

819
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: You wanted to be one of the motherfuckers.

820
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, totally, Yeah, that was that.

821
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

822
00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 6: No?

823
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: Both for me was both. I remember I went to

824
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: see Titanic with my dad. I was a struggling actor.

825
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: I was barely getting any work and we came out

826
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 4: Titanic and it was so incredible and Leo was so incredible,

827
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 4: and my dad turning me, went huh, he's about your age,

828
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: isn't he.

829
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, Leo was the humbling experience for a lot of us. Man.

830
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I was like I was like, I felt

831
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: so low because I was just not getting any work

832
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 4: at the time, and I was like, yeah, yeah, dad,

833
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: Leo was about mining.

834
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 6: Well, you guys, he's been working since he was like

835
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 6: eight or something.

836
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 4: You know, I know, I know. It was so wait,

837
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 4: what was that?

838
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 6: Like?

839
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 4: I think our audience would like to know what it

840
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: was like when you are all of a sudden across

841
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: from Leo in a in a scene. Was that was

842
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 4: that intimidating for you? Are you able to just go

843
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 4: okay because you were so green at the time relatively

844
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: were you. Were you able to just be like give

845
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 4: yourself a pep talk and go okay. It's just anybody

846
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: liked how how did that feel?

847
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean a little a little bit. It was.

848
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 6: It was again, it's the well I got here, so

849
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 6: I must have done something right. So like, don't you know,

850
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 6: I think women in Hollywood have to give away so

851
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 6: much power all the time. We have to like really defer,

852
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 6: especially when we're young and pretty and trying to get jobs.

853
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 6: But you have to walk this fine line of like,

854
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 6: I'm giving away a bunch of my power, but I

855
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 6: also want to like have confidence and own this and

856
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 6: be here for a reason, And I walked that line

857
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 6: a lot as a younger female actor. And but but

858
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 6: I mostly aired on the side of like super overconfidence, honestly,

859
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 6: you know, and just like I'm here for a reason.

860
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 6: We're fellow actors. You're my this, you're my you know,

861
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 6: scene mate, so and and also like I want to

862
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 6: be great in the scene and so and I want

863
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 6: my partner to be great. Like I really think about

864
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 6: it as as a partnership in those moments, you know,

865
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 6: like I'm here, I need you to look good. So

866
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 6: I look good. Let's all look good. Like let's bring

867
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 6: our a game. There's no part and around. You don't

868
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 6: show up and be like I don't know what should

869
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 6: I do? Oh my god, You're like, okay, I'm this character.

870
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 6: I'm here to do it.

871
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: Good for you. I gotta say I love what you're saying.

872
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 4: And I felt that myself when I'm acting opposite someone

873
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: who's intimidating or or I'm directing them, and I have

874
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 4: to give myself a pep talk, like, dude, no one's

875
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: gonna give a fuck in a year that you were nervous.

876
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 4: You need to show the fuck up. I'm literally saying

877
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 4: that to myself. I did this movie with de Niro

878
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: where I that fucking unfortunately still doesn't come out, but

879
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: I had a big scene where I'm screaming at him

880
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 4: and I slap him and I'm just fucking going at

881
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 4: de Niro, and I had to give myself this pep talk,

882
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 4: like this is a big moment in your life. You're

883
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 4: not going to be a whimp. You were going to

884
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 4: be like you're saying, his partner. And a year from now,

885
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 4: when this comes out, you're gonna want to say to yourself,

886
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: be proud that you went toe to toe with a

887
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 4: living legend, and not that you were intimidated or nervous

888
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 4: all that. That's right, But I have to give myself

889
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 4: that pep talk. Still.

890
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, we all, yeah, we all do whatever version of

891
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 6: that we have to do when you're working with people

892
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 6: who you freaking worship.

893
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 8: You know.

894
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 5: Of course, when you slapped a Nero and you asked

895
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 5: him a bit hurt, was he like a little bit?

896
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: I also, and when that scene with de Niro is

897
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: like I want him to be like okay, Like I

898
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 4: want him to have the vibe of like, oh shit, okay,

899
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: he came to play. You know, I didn't want so

900
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 4: it was a fake slap. It wasn't like a real slap.

901
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: It was you know, it was a comedic slap. Oh yeah,

902
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 4: but yeah it was funny.

903
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's really interesting.

904
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 5: Uh Like it seems like it it really like once

905
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 5: you hit the ground, you really hit the ground running too.

906
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

907
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 5: I mean like it was like boom and then bam

908
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden it became like when

909
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 5: we were doing scrubs, you said you were trying to

910
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 5: get pregnant. It seemed like five years later you were

911
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 5: executive producing movies.

912
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 4: You're going too fast. You're going too fast.

913
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 6: Sorry, no, I was. I was doing that. I was.

914
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: Before we get to you taking a concrete we got

915
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 4: to go to break. I want to take a break

916
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 4: and we come back. We do want to talk about

917
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 4: really for me, the time where you first where I

918
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 4: was like, holy shit, this woman is so funny. I

919
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 4: mean it was four year old virgin. That's when I

920
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: was like, this is this is the next level ship.

921
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 4: That's great, and we'll be right back. I've read these

922
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: fine words. Breaks here, Elizabethbanks, we just go right into it. Yeah,

923
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 4: So tell us about four year old virgin because to me,

924
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: I had, first.

925
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 5: Of all, you stole the you stole the the trailer.

926
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: The trailer was what it was, you know what I mean, Like,

927
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 5: that's what freaking really jumped off, like everybody was on

928
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: to see that movie because that line, it's the last

929
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 5: line in the trailer, and it's the funniest line in

930
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 5: the truck.

931
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 4: Can't you even remember the trailer, dude.

932
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: I haven't, dude.

933
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 5: That ship was hilarious, Like it's all these funny moments,

934
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 5: funny moments. And he says something about I'm gonna put

935
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 5: I got a bicycle and I'm gonna put it in

936
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 5: my trunk. And the bank goes and she goes, oh,

937
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 5: button around and that's the right and and that's how

938
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 5: and that's how the trailer ended. And I remember being like,

939
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 5: holy shit. I think everybody went to see the movie

940
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 5: because of that.

941
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny.

942
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: Donald.

943
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 6: People come up to me and they're like, back then

944
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 6: and not not so much anymore. Now. It's a lot

945
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 6: of hunger games that is mahogany, But back then it

946
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 6: was a lot of like say the line, say the line,

947
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 6: put the bunk, put the bike in the trunk. And

948
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't, that's not my line. Crowd

949
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 6: says that line, like do the line? Do the bike

950
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 6: in the trunk line, you know, And I was like, Okay,

951
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 6: the whole bike in the trunk line is me going?

952
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 4: But you were I mean to me, I had seen

953
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 4: you in Sea Biscuit, I'd seen you in Catching If

954
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 4: you Can, But the first time I was like, this

955
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: woman is not only so beautiful but fucking hilarious was

956
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 4: for your version. So tell us about that experience, because

957
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 4: that really, to me, must have really launched you to

958
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 4: another stratosphere.

959
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 6: Well, it definitely reset a lot of things that were

960
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 6: going on in my career, you know. At the you know,

961
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 6: I'm I'm classically trained. I went to drama school school

962
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 6: and I went to act in San Francisco, so you know,

963
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 6: I was like a theater nerd. And and when I

964
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 6: came in and I got catched me If you Can

965
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 6: and See Biscuit, which was, you know, nominated for a

966
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 6: ton of Oscars, and so I was sort of getting

967
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 6: known in the industry as that kind of actress. I

968
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 6: was getting compared a lot to like Laura Lenny and

969
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 6: uh whatever. Anyway, dramatic actresses, you know, and the forty

970
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 6: year old Vergi thing. But I had done what had

971
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 6: American Summer, so like I knew that I was funny,

972
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 6: and I knew there were some people in the industry

973
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 6: that knew I was funny, but no one I wasn't

974
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 6: doing it. And the other thing that was happening to

975
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 6: me is I wasn't getting any freaking rom coms, which

976
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 6: is it's literally why I came into Hollywood. I was like,

977
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 6: that's me. I see myself. I'm Meg Ryan, I'm Julia Roberts, Like,

978
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 6: let's go. That's what I'm supposed to be doing. And

979
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 6: then I didn't get any of those jobs, and I've thought,

980
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 6: oh no, something's gone sideways here. I'm the serious actress.

981
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 6: And then I did this movie Heights with Glenn Close

982
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 6: in New York for merchant Ivory, you know, very fancy

983
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 6: fancy pants stuff. So I was I believe I was

984
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 6: the last person to audition for the role of Beth

985
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 6: in four year Old virgin I went. Steve Carrell was

986
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 6: there because I think he was like also a producer

987
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 6: or something in the movie. He was very involved with

988
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 6: the casting process at the end there, and I only

989
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 6: auditioned one time I went in and there and we

990
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 6: was all improv. I mean I think there was a scene,

991
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 6: but eventually it devolved into improv, like yeah with Steve

992
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 6: kraw So I it devolved into improv with Steve, and

993
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 6: I ended up basically giving him a lap dance and

994
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 6: I was just like hysterically laughing, thinking it was hilarious,

995
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 6: and him being super uncomfortable like I don't understand what's happening,

996
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 6: and me just being like I'm just using you as

997
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 6: a chair or whatever. I don't know why I said,

998
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 6: and you know, and I kind of left there just

999
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 6: honestly being like this was so fun great to meet

1000
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 6: all you guys, like, you know, truly just thought it

1001
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 6: was really funny. Seth Rogan was a huge well had

1002
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 6: American Summer fan, so he knew like that, you know,

1003
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 6: like she he liked my cred. But I don't know

1004
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 6: the judge. I don't know if jud really knew or whatever.

1005
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 6: But yeah, next thing I knew was I was Beth

1006
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 6: and they were like, will you masturbate in a bathtub?

1007
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: And I was like, yues, So I remember you're just

1008
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 4: thinking you were so fearless. That's the thought that came

1009
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 4: to my mind. When I saw in the movie was like,

1010
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: you had such courage. I could tell you were riffing.

1011
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 4: I could tell a lot of that stuff wasn't written.

1012
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 4: And I was just so impressed by how funny you were,

1013
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: how free you were, how you're going toe to toe

1014
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 4: with Corel, who's a genius at that genre.

1015
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, totally a genius. Yeah, yeah, Honestly I

1016
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 6: approached that with just like this is a lark, this

1017
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 6: is fun.

1018
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: You know.

1019
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 6: They shut down that movie like day three. Mary parent

1020
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 6: was one of the producers, and she kind of came

1021
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 6: a side and she's like, so we're not shooting. We're

1022
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 6: on hold for a few hours. I remember because the

1023
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 6: early dailies, so we shot three days. And you remember

1024
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 6: the guys they I think that what they had, what

1025
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 6: we had already shot, was the stuff in the store

1026
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 6: where they all worked. They all worked at like a

1027
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 6: best buy type place, and they were wearing gray shirts.

1028
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 6: And I was there. I did the little bit with

1029
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 6: my like you know, thong hanging out and whatever, and

1030
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 6: I guess the word came back like this doesn't look

1031
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 6: like a comedy, Like he looks like he's a he

1032
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 6: seemed like he's a serial killer and they're all wearing

1033
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 6: gray shirts and they should be wearing red shirts or

1034
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 6: something like. It was all about like the costuming is wrong,

1035
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 6: the tone is off. We don't know what this movie is.

1036
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 6: And you have to remember too, that Judge shoots forever.

1037
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 6: He this is when we were still using film, and

1038
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 6: he would shoot out a full mag right, so like

1039
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 6: a thousand feet of film per scene, so much footage

1040
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 6: of just riffing, riffing, riffing, and you know, we would

1041
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 6: build on improv and if he likes that, he had

1042
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 6: little He had assistants who would write down like things.

1043
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 6: So if you were like and then I'm gonna climb

1044
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 6: that mountain over you and then you you know, and

1045
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 6: he'd called cut ten minutes later and he'd be like, Okay,

1046
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 6: what do we like And this assistant wuld be like,

1047
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 6: you like to think about the mountain, like, okay, remember

1048
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 6: the mountain thing, so a little more of the mountain,

1049
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 6: but maybe do this on the other reverse. Whenever I went, okay, great,

1050
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 6: so now we're gonna build the mountain bit or whatever. Right,

1051
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 6: And that's how we remembered like what to what we

1052
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 6: were saying, you know, like how we built jokes over

1053
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 6: the course of it.

1054
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: So I can imagine just the luxury, just some mean

1055
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 4: pause for the audience. That is very rare to have,

1056
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 4: the luxury, especially back in the days when people were

1057
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 4: actually shooting film because it's so expensive. And I think

1058
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 4: Judd like has the records in Hollywood for a mount

1059
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 4: of film shot on anything, because she I've heard that

1060
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 4: would let the camera roll and roll and roll and

1061
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 4: let everyone just improv and improv and I'm hearing this

1062
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: for the first time, and then he would notate, Oh,

1063
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 4: go back to that improv and build on that, right, yeah.

1064
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And so it was really fun, but so

1065
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 6: the whole So my point really is just like the

1066
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 6: set was so free, there was no you had to

1067
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 6: keep going. You didn't have a choice as an actor.

1068
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 6: It was like, you know, you know, you go until

1069
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 6: they call cut. Well, if they don't call cut for

1070
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 6: ten minutes, you got to stay in character and stay

1071
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 6: in the scene and stay in the moment and come

1072
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 6: up with some shit to say the whole time, you know,

1073
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 6: and just keep going.

1074
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: And you're in a scene with some of the funniest

1075
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 4: fucking people.

1076
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, they're genius, is not everybody is good at

1077
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 6: this right.

1078
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: No, we know that you two are.

1079
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 6: Very fucking good at it, so good at it. No,

1080
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 6: you guys are really good at it, and and you

1081
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 6: know it's really fun. Donald knows that I've directed Donald

1082
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 6: a little bit too, Like I like this vibe, but

1083
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 6: I'm also someone who I don't want to go ten

1084
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 6: minutes every I don't want to be in the editing

1085
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 6: room the whole time.

1086
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: Right, right, you cut a lot of my ship out

1087
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: of Pitch Perfect. I'm just going to put it out there.

1088
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: You cut a lot of my ship out of it.

1089
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 6: Donald, I had to cut a lot of all the

1090
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 6: old guys stuff out of that thing. Also, he was

1091
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Speaker 6: supposed to come back and be a trouble hanger like again, and.

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Speaker 5: Again, I'm still upset about that I was available. The

1093
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 5: show that I was on wouldn't released me for the

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00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 5: fifth day, is what happened.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 5: If it was four days, I was good to go.

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Speaker 5: But if it was five days, they were like.

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00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 6: He Donald was supposed to be in the scene with

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Speaker 6: the trouble Hangers with like, yeah, all of the football players.

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Speaker 1: You know and everything.

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00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, in with with the Green Bay Packers and the

1102
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 6: whole thing.

1103
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't supposed to do to beat box anymore.

1104
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: I was supposed to say all that stuff is.

1105
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 4: A natural, perfect pivot to pitch perfect because this was

1106
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 4: another you don't want to games. That's after I'm following

1107
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 4: her the order of her epic career. Okay, you mind

1108
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: going to order?

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00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: Okay, bad Dog.

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00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 4: In twenty twelve, you produced what has become what became

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00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: a giant phenomenon which pitched perfect. How did what? This

1112
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: was your? You didn't direct the first one, did you?

1113
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 6: No? I did not. Jason Moore directed the first movie.

1114
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 4: And you directed the second one. I did, yeah, and

1115
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 4: then direct the third.

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00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 6: One or no, no, I did not know.

1117
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 5: But this was your baby, right, we all of a

1118
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 5: sudden became like a secret spy and stuff like that.

1119
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: Well, by the time you get to three Donald, someone

1120
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: has to become a spy. Elizabeth Banks, how did that

1121
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 4: come about? Because that's your first big producing credit, and gosh,

1122
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 4: what a fucking phenomenon that was. I can still hear

1123
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 4: the cup song in my head. Yeah, how did that happen?

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00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: Didn't you write on that too?

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00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 6: I did?

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00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 6: I yes, I did, yes, of course, But like the

1128
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 6: the main thing that happened was my husband Max. You

1129
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 6: guys know, well he he heard he heard about and

1130
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 6: then read the book Proposal for Pitch Perfect, which was

1131
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 6: a book written by Mickey Rapkin, this you know, friend

1132
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 6: of ours for forever now who went to Cornell and

1133
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 6: sang a cappella and did like a behind the scenes

1134
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 6: of that. He was a writer at the time for

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00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 6: either GQ or Esquire I can't remember which. I think GQ,

1136
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 6: and so you know, he was a he was an

1137
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 6: established magazine writer and he decided to like write this

1138
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 6: book and it was really funny. I had a lot

1139
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 6: of the funny bits in it, and and one of

1140
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 6: the main storylines in it was about this group from

1141
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 6: the University of Oregon who was who were the first

1142
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 6: all female group to win or go to the finals

1143
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 6: of the i ccas the Ikas, which is the big

1144
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 6: competition in America. So that became sort of like the

1145
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 6: seed of the whole thing. And then I was working

1146
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 6: on thirty Rock at the time, and I knew Kay Cannon.

1147
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 6: She was a young writer on the show. I had

1148
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 6: made a movie with her then husband, Jason Sedeikis, So

1149
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 6: we were all kind of like friendly in New York

1150
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 6: and she called me about another movie idea that she

1151
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 6: wanted to do. I think it was called the z

1152
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 6: List or something, and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1153
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 6: that sounds fun. Yeah maybe. But we have this book

1154
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 6: called pitch Perfect. Would you want to you know, work

1155
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 6: on a treatment for it? And the reason that we

1156
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 6: needed someone so fast was that we were not the

1157
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 6: only people to pitch the book. The book was also

1158
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 6: being pitched by these other guys who did acappella who

1159
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 6: had a very different take than us, And so we

1160
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 6: were only given like two weeks to come up with

1161
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 6: the take, and we had to take it out to

1162
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 6: We got like three studios, Universal being one of them,

1163
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 6: the Weinstein Company interestingly one of them.

1164
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 4: And you know expression wait wait, Pete Holmes taught us

1165
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 4: an expression Scandal noted Scandal.

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00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 6: Noted Scandal noted tm tm. After the scan scy.

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00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 4: Wel that I stole that from Pete Holmes because on

1168
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 4: his podcast, you're allowed to if something like that comes up.

1169
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 4: You don't want to go down to my rabbit, all

1170
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 4: just go Scandal noted Scandal.

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00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 6: That's right, it's well done. I'm going to steal that

1172
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 6: note too. Oh and so anyway, we had to come

1173
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 6: up with this thing like really fast, and so Kate

1174
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 6: Kay was came out to La. We sat around our

1175
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 6: dining room table. I remember we decided very early on

1176
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 6: that the first thing that was going to happen was

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00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 6: that Kay was going to blow a pitch pipe at

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00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 6: the beginning of the pitch and go like and then

1179
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 6: we were gonna like match pitch, and we sang in

1180
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 6: the pitch. She and I sang in the pitch together,

1181
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 6: and we did this whole pitch and I mean, I

1182
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 6: have such, you know, great memories of us doing it.

1183
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 6: And I remember the guy, you know, Peter Kramer, who

1184
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 6: bought it at Universal, to his ever lasting credit, we

1185
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 6: had more of a like a Super Bad. We thought

1186
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 6: it would be like if Michael Sarah and Christopher min'splas

1187
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 6: like went to Dartmouth at the end of that movie

1188
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 6: and then got into a cappella and then met up

1189
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 6: with it like the Lady acapella singers. We kind of

1190
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 6: had that version of the movie like it was always

1191
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 6: boys against the girls, but it was not. It was

1192
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 6: very evenly waited and and to his credit, he also said, really,

1193
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 6: just make it about the girls, like, don't worry about

1194
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 6: the guy, like let the guy group be the bad guys,

1195
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 6: weighed towards the women, and and then and then that's

1196
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 6: how the script was written, like really fast because we

1197
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 6: had a great pitch. Then we waited for five years

1198
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 6: to make the movie. Well, number one Glee came out.

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Speaker 4: Ah, and yeah, wee cock blocked you geek.

1200
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 6: Glee definitely caught block us. Did you ever do it

1201
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 6: a little while?

1202
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: No?

1203
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 6: I never, I never did. I did not know ex Glee.

1204
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: No, but Elizabethanks has been on so many popular television

1205
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 4: shows that she could.

1206
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 5: She's been so many popular, so many popular I'm saying

1207
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 5: that like the James Gun of It All Man, there's

1208
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 5: like so many things.

1209
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 4: That Blanks and one of those people that you could

1210
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 4: be like, oh, yeah, of course I did the three

1211
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 4: episodes of Glee.

1212
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 5: You're not right, She's right, though we skipped over the

1213
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 5: whole James Gun of It All Man, Like James were

1214
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 5: like the two that that's the go to. That's I'm

1215
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 5: surprised you're not in Guardians? Are you in Guardians?

1216
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: You're probably no, I'm not.

1217
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 8: No.

1218
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 6: I we did have a conversation about something very long ago,

1219
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 6: but I couldn't do it at the time. I think

1220
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 6: I was directing. I think I was doing something I

1221
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 6: don't remember.

1222
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: Listen, the truth is, The truth is your career is

1223
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: really a three hour conversation. But I'm trying to give

1224
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: the audience the hour long version.

1225
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 6: I just like telling stories anyway, because people people love

1226
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 6: to hear how things start. Yes, so do I think

1227
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 6: people I was thinking people think like, oh, well, now

1228
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 6: it exists in the world. That must have been easy,

1229
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 6: and like, no, no, no, no, it was so hard.

1230
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 6: We had a great script. We had, we've you know,

1231
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 6: we've we've attached its director. We pulled out of the theaters.

1232
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 6: We he did Avenue Q and he was working on

1233
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 6: Book of Mormon and we ended up, you know, and

1234
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 6: he just got the sense of humor of this movie.

1235
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 6: And we knew he could do the musical numbers which

1236
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 6: we knew nothing about, and right and like, how do

1237
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 6: you put on this this movie musical? And the casting

1238
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 6: process was incredible and we re really wrote to a

1239
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 6: lot of the characters. Anna Kendrick auditioned with the cup

1240
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 6: song that was not in the script. She auditioned with

1241
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 6: that and then and we were.

1242
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 5: Like, ye, Award nominated actress audition for your movie.

1243
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1244
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 4: She wasn't nominated.

1245
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: Yes she was.

1246
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 6: I think she was, Yes she was. I think she

1247
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 6: had that.

1248
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 4: Okay, well then she still have to prove that she

1249
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 4: can sing in a really amazing.

1250
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 6: I mean, she'd been on Broadway, so.

1251
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: Musical.

1252
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 6: And it was not our call. The studio, the studio,

1253
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 6: we were like baby producers. They didn't know us. The

1254
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 6: studio wanted to approve every single person that we cast

1255
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 6: the movie. And you know who are a lot of

1256
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 6: great people came through that room who have gone on

1257
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 6: to do awesome things that didn't end up in Pitch Perfect.

1258
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Anna was perfect.

1259
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: She was the whole cast was perfect.

1260
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 4: And that she auditioned with the cup song that was

1261
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 4: that's so cool that she that she chose that as

1262
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: her audition song.

1263
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 6: Yep. I had worked with her right before on what

1264
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 6: to Expect when You're Expecting, and Rebel Wilson plays my

1265
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 6: assistant in that movie, and so I knew, like you know,

1266
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 6: so there was just like a lot of synergy happening

1267
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 6: in the world at that time too.

1268
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: Let's take a break.

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01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these fine words.

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01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: This segment of Fake Doctor's Real Friends has brought to

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Speaker 4: back with another letter from T Mobile. This week's letter

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01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: comes from Kate d.

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01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 7: Love the podcast in the show so much. I'm rewatching

1277
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 7: it again and anytime I mentioned it to my mom,

1278
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 7: she has to bring up her Scrubs story. She went

1279
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 7: to high school with Bill Lawrence and is convinced he

1280
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 7: had a massive crush on her. Her name is Kim

1281
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 7: maiden name Robinson, so she's also convinced Bill loosely modeled

1282
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 7: doctor Kim Briggs Elizabeth Banks character after her. She listened

1283
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 7: to a podcast episode he was on to see if

1284
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 7: you had mentioned her.

1285
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 4: He did not.

1286
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 7: I have to know if Bill remembers my mom and

1287
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 7: or based doctor Kim Briggs off of her. I've attached

1288
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 7: a current photo of my mom for a reference. Love

1289
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 7: you all so much, Katie Dunn.

1290
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 4: Well, this is the ultimate ask Bill, Joel you got

1291
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 4: to get on this. Yeah, I think we're This is

1292
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 4: a fascinating story. I think we What could Donald and

1293
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 4: I possibly say other than to beg Joel to track

1294
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 4: down Bill Lawrence and get him to answer. Well, I

1295
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 4: think I think Bill is going to be honest. He's

1296
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 4: not gonna lie what he's like.

1297
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: I named it. I named Doctor Kim after Kimberly Drummond from.

1298
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: Let Me See the Woman.

1299
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: Based off the picture. Do you think it could be?

1300
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure. By the way Bill wears that outfit, it's

1301
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 4: one of those. This is the most the husband in

1302
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 4: this picture is wearing the most Connecticut and Bill has

1303
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 4: worn this ship. It's like the pink pants you know

1304
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 4: the people wear on like Martha's vineyard and light blue shirt.

1305
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 5: Bill has on pants he got on Salmon coming pants

1306
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 5: with Penny loafers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I've seen Bill wear that in the Hamptons. That's

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01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 4: some Connecticut ship. Connecticut. So Joel is gonna get Bill

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Speaker 4: to answer that. Thank you for your question.

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Speaker 9: Tune in next week for Bill's answer to this question.

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Speaker 9: for home Internet. All right, Donald, for you and for

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Speaker 9: the audience, we will now move to the Hunger Games

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01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 9: chapter Jesus Christ be in more successful franchises.

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Speaker 6: You guys got to just hang out on scrubs for

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01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 6: years and years and years. I didn't get any I

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01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 6: never have ever gotten us.

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Speaker 1: That's a great that's a that's a great answer.

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01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 6: You guys got to like I want.

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01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 4: These things. These things are happening at the same time, audience,

1323
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 4: the Lego franchise, the Hunger Games franchise, the Past Perfect franchise,

1324
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 4: all of this at the same time. Are you ever like,

1325
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 4: do you look in the mirror and go, fucking hell,

1326
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 4: I'm killing it? Or do you not feel it?

1327
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 6: No, we just released a little bit and we're not

1328
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 6: allowed to really talk about any of our movies right now.

1329
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 6: We're on strike, and I would like a fair deal

1330
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 6: for all the actors, and and well.

1331
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 4: I'm being careful. We're not We're not we're not plugging anything.

1332
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 4: We're just grazing your career.

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01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 6: But I just all that to say, like every time

1334
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 6: there's a new thing, there's a new anxiety and a

1335
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 6: new worry and a new you know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I will say I now, I've I came

1337
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 6: to a point a while ago, and I'm sure you

1338
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 6: guys feel this way too, Like you work enough, you

1339
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 6: build up an audience and a trust with people. With

1340
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 6: the audience that I do feel like I'm okay, like

1341
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 6: I'll be I'm gonna be here. I can rest easy

1342
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 6: that I am actually in Hollywood. This is my job.

1343
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 6: They're not firing me tomorrow. Well, who knows? Again again,

1344
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 6: who knows. I don't know. Maybe I tweeted something in

1345
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 6: twenty eleven that I don't don't forgot about.

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01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 4: Don't do that, don't do that. Surely you feel disappointment

1347
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 4: when thing. You know, as filmmakers we work so I mean,

1348
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 4: as filmmakers and actors, we work so hard on something

1349
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 4: and you put everything you have into it and then

1350
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 4: in a in an opening weekend, in the case of film,

1351
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 4: it either works or it doesn't. It's really I mean,

1352
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 4: it's it's that's evolving obviously with streaming and everything. But yeah,

1353
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 4: in the theatrical experience, if you're still getting a theatrical experience,

1354
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 4: uh and up and throughout history and up until current day,

1355
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 4: it's like it doesn't matter. It's all it matters is

1356
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 4: how did it do that opening weekend? And that and

1357
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 4: what did the critics say? And so you know that

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01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 4: is that is shitty.

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01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 5: It's hard not to get caught up in the hype

1360
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 5: of all of the ship that's coming before it.

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 5: Man, Like, I've done television shows, I've done movies, and

1363
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 5: they've said to you.

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01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: Yo, this ship is tracking, bro, it is tracking. It's tracking.

1365
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: Things are happening. Everybody's gonna watch this movie. Everybody's tracking.

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01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 5: There's so much tracking, and then the shit comes out

1367
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 5: and the tracking didn't track the way they right.

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Speaker 6: Right, So it's fat. I hear everything that you guys

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01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 6: are saying. I subscribe. I really try to subscribe to

1370
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 6: a slightly different mentality, which is because I've been burned

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01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 6: too many times now and I just don't want the

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01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 6: roller coaster one. I really try not to read anything.

1373
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 6: I don't read the critics. I read it about other

1374
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 6: people's movies, right, I don't read.

1375
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 4: When you see yes, yes, and no.

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01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 6: I couldn't tell you what any of my movies. I

1377
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 6: could not right now reliably tell you what any of

1378
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 6: my movies are sitting at. I'm rotten tomatoes. It is

1379
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 6: not something that I think, wow. And I also really

1380
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 6: have come to the conclusion that for all the reasons

1381
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 6: you guys are saying, like the hype machine and the

1382
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 6: bubble that you get put in and the tracking, and

1383
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 6: and by the way, all the people that are invested

1384
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 6: in it working or not working, because by the way,

1385
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,959
Speaker 6: there's all schadenfreude all over the place too. So which

1386
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 6: I'm very uninterested in. Is like I've just really trying,

1387
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 6: I'm really trying to subscribe to this notion that like

1388
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 6: it's just about the process making the thing with the

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01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 6: people that you make it with. And was it were

1390
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 6: you fully engaged in that process? Did you learn anything?

1391
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 6: Did you feel like an artist? Did you feel like

1392
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 6: you know something happened, did you make like moments between people?

1393
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 6: Were you a good leader, were you a good you know,

1394
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 6: whatever your job is, did you you know, did you

1395
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 6: play that as well as you could? Or did you

1396
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 6: I just try to That's what I focus on because

1397
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 6: everything else is so out of our fucking control, and

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01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 6: I hate that sense of not having control over it,

1399
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 6: so I just give it up. I've really I control

1400
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 6: what I can and then everything else I try to

1401
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 6: look at I.

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01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 4: Think that's so amazing, and I try to do that,

1403
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 4: but I get very caught up in the machine of it. All.

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01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: I feel. It's hard movie. I you know, the critics

1405
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 4: were split on it. It was hard for me to

1406
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 4: not read negative things. It was so personal to me,

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01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 4: and I was so invested in it, and and I didn't.

1408
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 4: I didn't go down the rabbit hole and read it all.

1409
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 4: But you do. I did, Unlike you read some of

1410
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 4: the negative stuff. And I wish, I wish I could be.

1411
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 4: I aspired to be more like you with that and

1412
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 4: not give a fuck.

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Speaker 6: I have a question, though, did you read anything where

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 6: the person totally got it, Like where you read someone

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01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 6: you were like, oh, this was absolutely I communicated this

1416
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 6: person exactly they got the movie.

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01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, in fact, And.

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Speaker 1: The response is that she I'm sorry. Let me just

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Speaker 1: say one thing real quick.

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Speaker 5: The responses I've seen from people, people that people that

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01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 5: are in the industry, people that are not in the industry,

1422
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 5: that are that have dealt with some form of addiction.

1423
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 5: The response that he's gotten or depression or anything. The

1424
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 5: response that he's gotten from interviews that he's done has

1425
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 5: been the type of shit where it's like, dude, you

1426
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 5: got to feel good about what just happened just now.

1427
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 5: That has to feel good. That has to feel good.

1428
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 5: Fuck what everybody else is saying, Dude, you're making real connections.

1429
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: Man.

1430
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 5: It's like the fucker that puts out something on Instagram

1431
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 5: and gets no likes, but then there's like two to

1432
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 5: four thousand comments on the shit you did.

1433
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:21,919
Speaker 1: Make an impact.

1434
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 5: You've made so many people say oh dude, look or yo,

1435
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 5: you fucking or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: You know, I was reading something I don't know. One

1438
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 6: of some big writer was like, I write a novel

1439
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 6: and I think about one person reading it, you know,

1440
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 6: I think about one person who like gets moved by

1441
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 6: something or I remember, frankly, after four yeld version, honestly,

1442
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 6: I was having kind of like a down moment because

1443
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 6: not because the movie worked. It was great. I was

1444
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 6: so happy on one level, and on another level, I

1445
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 6: was like, oh my god, my dad works in a factory.

1446
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 6: He works in a general electric factory in Schonnecting, New York,

1447
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 6: on the third shift, and he is somebody at his

1448
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 6: work is like I saw your daughter masturbating a bathtub

1449
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 6: to my father, like, that's I like in my mind.

1450
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 6: I went to a place where I was like, my

1451
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 6: father is like, you know, And then I met a

1452
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 6: woman and her fourteen year old daughter who said to me,

1453
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 6: my daughter was going through cancer treatment at the children's

1454
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 6: hospital whenever five months ago and we got to watch

1455
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 6: four year old version. She loves this movie. It got

1456
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 6: her through a really hard time. So my point is, like,

1457
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 6: you know, I now choose. That's what I think about

1458
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 6: when I think about the four year old virsion. You know,

1459
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 6: I think about that conversation with that teenage girl who

1460
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 6: was in cancer, Like, what the fuck. I'm an artist

1461
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 6: all I'm trying to I don't do it in my closet.

1462
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 6: I'm doing it to connect with people out in the world.

1463
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 6: And if you tell me that it happened, then I

1464
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 6: did it. That was the point of the entire exercise. Now,

1465
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 6: the studio wants you to connect with as many people

1466
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 6: as possible who.

1467
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 5: Buy studios, Like can you do that a billion.

1468
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 6: Times on a much larger scale?

1469
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 4: Right, you know, let's talk about that, because that's a

1470
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 4: great segue to Cocaine Bear, which is just was a

1471
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 4: fucking phenomenon. I mean, I mean, the movie made so

1472
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 4: so much fucking money, was such a huge hit, and

1473
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 4: and people loved it, and it was kind of like

1474
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 4: it came at a time I think when people wanted

1475
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 4: something silly and fun, and you know, the comedy at

1476
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 4: the box office is really tough these days. It just

1477
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 4: doesn't happen that much anymore. But man, did you really

1478
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 4: hit the mark with that. And as a director too,

1479
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 4: I just felt so as someone who cares about you

1480
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 4: and loves you, I felt so happy for you because

1481
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 4: I was like, when I saw that you directed, I

1482
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 4: was like, Oh, that's fun. That's going to do. People

1483
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 4: are gonna love that'll do well. And then it was

1484
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 4: like a hundred times what I imagine it was going

1485
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 4: to do. It just kept going and going and going.

1486
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, and it's it's been fun to see

1487
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 6: how many people see it at home and people watch

1488
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 6: that thing like multiple times, which really delights me. Well,

1489
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Speaker 6: thank you for saying a lot. I read that movie,

1490
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 6: you know, in the Pandemic, and it was the movie

1491
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 6: I wanted to see and I wanted to make because

1492
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 6: I was also like, holy moly, the world is falling

1493
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 6: down and you know, where where is this all going?

1494
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 6: And how do I And I really felt a lot

1495
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 6: of sympathy for the bear and the real story because

1496
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 6: apparently Middle Story died and so I honestly was like oh,

1497
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 6: I can make a revenge tale for the cocaine bear

1498
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 6: like you know. That was really like a big part

1499
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 6: of it. But more importantly I this it was tone,

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Speaker 6: How do I make something really funny. I've done that before.

1501
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 6: I've made funny things before. I've made things funny. So

1502
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 6: I wanted to show I wanted to show something else.

1503
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 6: I wanted to learn something else. You know that that

1504
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 6: that was really when I read the script. I loved

1505
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 6: every character. I wanted to play every character I saw casting.

1506
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, I get this movie. I get

1507
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 6: who all these people are. I get why this is

1508
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 6: gonna be fun. So many of my favorite directors make

1509
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 6: movies like this, the multipov you know, the the Cohen

1510
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 6: Brothers and the and Quentin Tarantino, and you know this idea,

1511
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 6: Sam Raimi, this idea of like gory blood but it's

1512
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 6: fun and you're having a great time, and you know

1513
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 6: everybody's in over the head and everyone's uh a underdog

1514
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 6: because I don't care how many guns you bring to

1515
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 6: the party. If the bears on cocaine, you're losing.

1516
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Speaker 4: That's a great would have been great. That would have

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Speaker 4: been a great line for the poster.

1518
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 6: You know, like you did. If you don't know the

1519
01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 6: bears on cocaine, you don't have all the information. You

1520
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 6: didn't come prepared.

1521
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 4: So have they already reached out to you to do

1522
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 4: some sort I'm sure they have, But I mean, is

1523
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 4: there a way you can make another one?

1524
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 6: I'm waiting. Everybody wants to do the Shark one. I

1525
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 6: think that's just Jaws. And if you just revealed that

1526
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 6: Jaws like ate a little something at the bottom of

1527
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 6: the ocean, it would just still be Jaws. I can't

1528
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 6: make it better. You know, we're gonna need a bigger boat.

1529
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna need.

1530
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: They keep making, keep making this movie too man o.

1531
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 4: Well, listen, they are going to beg for those of

1532
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 4: you who don't know Hollywood, they are going to beg

1533
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 4: Elizabethbanks every day for some other animal to ingest.

1534
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 6: You can get a lot of pitches on the animals,

1535
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 6: but no animals. Can you do something different? I want

1536
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 6: to do something. There was a well, we had a

1537
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 6: whole other ending to that movie where basically where stash,

1538
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 6: you know, the kid at the end makes it out

1539
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 6: with the bag. You know, he's going to New York City,

1540
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 6: And we had we I always wanted to shoot a

1541
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 6: tag where he then gets to New York City. But

1542
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 6: the drug dealers who were looking for his drug, like,

1543
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 6: Sid's the guys above Sid right, because Sid's there, because

1544
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 6: they're gonna come and kill his family. He's got to

1545
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 6: get the drugs. So there's always a level above Sid

1546
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 6: White in cocaine, Barrett, It's like, who are the who

1547
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 6: are the Colombians that are coming right right right? And

1548
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 6: I always imagine Stash in New York City like looking

1549
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 6: at a map like he's never you know, he has

1550
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 6: no idea where he's going with the bag in between

1551
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 6: his likes, and then the Colombians just come out to

1552
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 6: get him. But the but the bag is actually filled.

1553
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: With ratst.

1554
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 4: Cocaine rat coming soon. You guys heard it here first.

1555
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 6: Unleash hell in, Unleash Hell in the subways of New

1556
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 6: York City. Maybe that'll happen someday.

1557
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 4: What are you singing?

1558
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: We both fell well geek.

1559
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 4: For big Oh, I didn't get it.

1560
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's at Let's take a break.

1561
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these fine words.

1562
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 4: You're you're such an inspiration. I really mean that to

1563
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 4: every person who wants to make it in Hollywood. You've

1564
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 4: just you're so impressive. And I think that you know,

1565
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 4: when we knew you, you were just not just you

1566
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 4: were this hilarious actress. I knew you wanted to direct

1567
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 4: and produce. But I I think I speak for both

1568
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 4: of us when I say, what you've accomplished is just

1569
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 4: such an inspiration.

1570
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: I saw it coming. I knew this whole time. I

1571
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 1: saw it coming.

1572
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 4: And and I just want to lastly say that Donald

1573
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 4: att are both available for hire.

1574
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 6: Me too.

1575
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 4: No, you're too busy. You're you're you're, you're you're you're

1576
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 4: too busy. Now you're the that's a good question.

1577
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: Actually, what do you prefer to do? I'll ask all

1578
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: of you.

1579
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 5: I'll that's the to the direction and the direct right,

1580
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 5: and uh star.

1581
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 6: I feel the most well, I I really like I

1582
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 6: I love directing. But it's the hardest, it's by far

1583
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 6: the hardest, and it's the longest commitment, and I like

1584
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 6: to I hate long commitments. So that stuff. I love acting.

1585
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 6: They bring you coffee, they dress you up, they do

1586
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 6: your makeup. It's a delight, and like you get to

1587
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 6: play with your friends. I mean, there's nothing better. I think,

1588
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 6: so I I still that's if I can do that.

1589
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 6: That's what I'm gonna keep doing. I love making pressure

1590
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 6: luck my my my game show. Love that game show

1591
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 6: because I love giving away other people's money to people

1592
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 6: who need it. It's real fun. And then you know,

1593
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 6: and I really enjoy writing when I find something that

1594
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 6: like clicks. I I think I take the most pride

1595
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 6: in writing because I'm not naturally good at it. I

1596
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,480
Speaker 6: really have to work hard at it. And when I

1597
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 6: find something that I feel like works or clicks in

1598
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,759
Speaker 6: or or I can I can be additive. I gets

1599
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 6: that makes me really excited.

1600
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 4: For me. Writing is by far the hardest and I

1601
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 4: dread it. Directing is so stressful, but I think I'm

1602
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 4: living my my truest self what I'm doing. I just

1603
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 4: love it. I just like I love cameras, I love actors,

1604
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 4: and I love and I love choreographing scenes and collaborating

1605
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 4: and improv and like being a film director is it's

1606
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 4: like everything I love in one job. It's so but

1607
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 4: it's also makes me so stressed and takes years off

1608
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 4: my life. And then like I said, you but that

1609
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 4: finally put it out and and people either go or

1610
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 4: they don't, and it's it's just it's it's very, very hard.

1611
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 4: I do love doing it. Acting to me, once you've

1612
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 4: done all that is like you can't believe that this

1613
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 4: is a job, Like you can't believe that you guys

1614
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 4: are all gonna stress about this shit and I just

1615
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 4: go back to my trailer and drink coffee. Yeah, like

1616
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 4: for real, But I don't have to weigh in on

1617
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 4: the fact that we're over budget and the teamsters are

1618
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 4: walking off because of some reason, like that's your guys home.

1619
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1620
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 5: But you know it's interesting as an actor when you

1621
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 5: when I first heard that it was it was amongst

1622
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 5: you and your director friends and stuff like that, and

1623
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 5: you guys were talking about putting the puzzle together and

1624
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 5: stuff and how you know, you know, actors are the

1625
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 5: we're the worst also because we come in with this

1626
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 5: fucking ego thinking this is all about me, and I'm

1627
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 5: the one that's supposed to cater to. You said it yourself.

1628
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 5: They bring me coffee, they bring me my clothes. So

1629
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 5: you walk in think this is my life and this

1630
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 5: is how everybody should feel about it. But really, when

1631
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 5: you're that person, you are fucking everyone so hard.

1632
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 1: Bye.

1633
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 5: By throwing the monkey wrench in there, dude, and so

1634
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 5: the one time and it was like it was very

1635
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 5: humbling and it.

1636
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,839
Speaker 1: Was also very eye opening.

1637
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 5: It was like, you know, Zach was like, you know,

1638
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 5: the actors are like the least bit of the worry

1639
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 5: when you're when you're doing it, you're like, just fucking

1640
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 5: show up and do your fucking lines. I got so

1641
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 5: much other I got so much other ship I have

1642
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 5: to take care of. And I was like, oh, And

1643
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 5: that was the moment when I realized. I was like, oh,

1644
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 5: I don't want to be that person that Oh shit, wow,

1645
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 5: I'm anytime I have my little fucking diva blow up

1646
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 5: on my little attitude, I'm I'm really fucking everybody so hard.

1647
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: You got him fucking like this.

1648
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 4: Is oh, I'm player. You're balancing as a director, You're

1649
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 4: balancing so many fucking plays. Then when when an actor

1650
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 4: is like, has some bullshit, You're like, what I did

1651
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 4: not account for you to get a haircut? Now your

1652
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 4: haircut is so fucking my day.

1653
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: Why shave your beard? Why shave all right?

1654
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 4: Banks will wrap it up. We love you, thank you

1655
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 4: for doing this.

1656
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: Guys.

1657
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 6: I'm so glad to find I love you so much.

1658
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 4: And if you want to so much.

1659
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: You know, banks, you were the first person.

1660
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 5: Listen, this is how much I love you so like,

1661
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 5: I love you, love you, love you, love you like.

1662
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 4: I'm not going to cast you, bro, Just send your head.

1663
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 6: I already tried.

1664
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 5: I tried to try to put me in things. Look,

1665
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 5: I love you so much. Look what First of all,

1666
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 5: there's a there's an article out where it's me and Casey,

1667
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 5: and I got so excited to see you. I think

1668
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 5: it's front of in front of some restaurant and I'm

1669
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 5: so excited. I'm grabbing you and they're they're clowning me

1670
01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 5: like Donald fan is on.

1671
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: Overly excited to see Elizabeth.

1672
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 5: But but then like the other one was the other.

1673
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 5: The other thing is we found out we were pregnant

1674
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 5: with Rocco. The first person I told I could have

1675
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 5: told anyone on the planet. The first and only person

1676
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 5: I told was you, and that I sent you. I

1677
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 5: sent you the sonogram. It's not I remem and I

1678
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 5: I like and I don't know why, but it was like, no,

1679
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 5: I want to tell Evanks about this.

1680
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: No, I do know why. I do know why.

1681
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 5: I do know why because when I started dating Casey,

1682
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 5: everybody gave me ship for it. Everybody was like, dude,

1683
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 5: fuck it, I can't believe it. You're dating a girl

1684
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 5: from the fucking reality show. Everybody gave me ship for it,

1685
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 5: and you were like, I don't know. I kind of

1686
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 5: like her. She's really awesome.

1687
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 6: She seemed really cool to me.

1688
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 5: She's really cool. And I was like and and and

1689
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 5: I wanted to say, look, you you were right. Look

1690
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 5: how far look at look Look how far we've come.

1691
01:22:58,880 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: We're now.

1692
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I thought you guys were great. I thought

1693
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 6: you guys were like, really great together. And I think

1694
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 6: she's awesome. I don't get to see I don't get

1695
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 6: to see you guys enough. I mean, I'm going to

1696
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 6: see anybody enough. But yeah, I'm.

1697
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 4: Still just want to I just want to end with

1698
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 4: a brief cold read for you just to have in

1699
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 4: your head, like just just listen, just to have in

1700
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 4: your head as you go forward. There's something up with

1701
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 4: that Rat, guys. I don't know what it is, but

1702
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 4: he's really hyper.

1703
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 6: I'm writing it down. This is recorded right because I'm going.

1704
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 4: To need to show this, but this is this is

1705
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 4: my reading. Ready. That Rat has something going on with him.

1706
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,480
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, guys.

1707
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 6: Might animated. I feel like that animated version.

1708
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 4: Smaller, thanks, I could take it down, look more real.

1709
01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 6: Okay, take the rats really eating your foot?

1710
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 4: Here we go, this fucking rat. I think he's a

1711
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 4: blow ago. You ad you so much.

1712
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 5: Stories that show we made about a bunch of dogs

1713
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 5: and nurses in the janitor who.

1714
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: I said, he's the stories net all should know.

1715
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 5: So gatherer rab you here, our gatherer rab you here,

1716
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 5: our swear free show.

1717
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: Wizar