1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. All right, we have singer 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: songwriter Nate Smith here. Hi Nate, thanks for being here. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: We are so glad to talk to you today. And 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: I was actually telling your publicists earlier in the week. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: I the theme for this month on the Velvet Edge 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Podcast has been awakenings and kind of a spiritual rebirth, 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, like we've kind of tied it into the 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: to the season, and so in March, it's like you're 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: still sort of in the hibernation of winter when we've 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: done a lot of deep diving, but now it feels 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: like spring and kind of like what's the next part 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: of our journey? And I thought that your story really 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: really lined up with that theme, and so I want 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: to kind of dive in and give the listeners the 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: whole story. But let's just start really simply with your backstory, 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: like where you're from, how you got into music, where 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: you always a singer songwriter. Tell us a little bit 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: about young Nate. Young Nate, oh man, there's not that 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: much different. I still feel like I'm young Nate. I 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: just look older and I've got some this is just 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: for men right here. That keeps this thing looking okay 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: for me. The name of the game here. Um, but 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: uh yeah, So, I mean I grew up in a 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: small town called Paradise, California, and um we lived in 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Butte County for pretty much most of my life, so 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: we bounced around from Orville. But she go to Paradise. Um, 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: dad was a sheriff for the Sheriff's department. My mom 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: nurse assistant, and Zoomba instructor. So before that it was 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: just the robots. But now it's okay, Zoomba queen Zoomba queen. Mom, 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: You're definitely in a cult. She's like, now it's it's 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: not you know, but then it's like everything zoomy, like 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: totally did you do classes? I feel like this is 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: a very important part of your backstory. She goes she 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: she goes to these like retreats or whatever and stuff. 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god and jump around. So I 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: don't know, but I grew up there, and um, yeah, 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: I just I've always liked me so much, and I 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: think at a young age and my parents bought me 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: like a plastic guitar. I don't really know, why they did, 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: but they did. And then, um, when I got a 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: little bit older, I started diving into Garth Brooks. My 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: mom would play like nineties country all the time in 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: the house and tried to sound like him. And then 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: I was like really into Elvis, and um, I wasn't 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: very good and and still working on that, but definitely 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: definitely definitely didn't know what I was doing then, and um, 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I just loved it. I 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: just everybody else was out playing sports and stuff. I tried. 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: I definitely all of them, but um, I would rather 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: stay home and like, um, I had a talk boy, 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: like on home alone, you know, a little talk to us, 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: record myself singing into it, and then like listen back 54 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: and be like that's not good enough, how about again? 55 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: And I do it, do it again? And I would 56 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: record myself over and over. That's kind of how I 57 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: learned to sing, sort of. You know. Oh my god. 58 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: So when did it start becoming part of your life 59 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: that you thought, Okay, maybe this could be a career 60 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: for me. Probably the last couple of years. Okay, but 61 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: this isn't how you started. Because I love, actually love 62 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: this part of your story because I think people assume 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: you just moved to Nashville and get famous, and it's like, 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: if you actually live in Nashville, you realize everyone in 65 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Nashville is so talented and there's a million people trying 66 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: to do exactly the same thing. And so you came 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: to Nashville once and then went back home. So tell 68 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: us a little bit about that part of the story. Yeah. So, Um, 69 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: when I was twenty three years old, Um, I had 70 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: a record deal offer from a label here in town. 71 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: And uh, so I moved out. I did the whole 72 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: mom and dad, I'm gonna make it. This is it, 73 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: moved to Nashville. I had some friends here, so I 74 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: was able to find a place to stay. Um. And 75 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: then I once I got here, they had me writing 76 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: for my record and all this stuff. So I was 77 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: doing a bunch of stuff and then my A and 78 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: r UM. You know, the people out there don't know 79 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: what n R is. They're kind of like your cheerleader 80 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: at the at the record label. They're the ones that 81 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: are hyping you up, and they're they're kind of your 82 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: your day to day person. But um, he ended up 83 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: leaving the labels. So when I lost that support there, 84 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: they were like, hey, let's just not move forward here, 85 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, it's it's not gonna work out. So 86 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: here I'm in Nashville, like, now what am I gonna do? 87 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: And then and he goes, hey, you've been writing a 88 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: lot of songs. How do you feel about a publishing deal. 89 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's a publishing deal? You know, I don't 90 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: even know what that is. So he's like, well, you'll 91 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: write songs, will pay you a monthly income called a draw, 92 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: and uh, we'll have you write songs for other artists. 93 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: So I did that for three years, um, and then 94 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: I went through a really really difficult relationship break in 95 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: my life and I really need to be home with 96 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: my family. So I actually moved back to California after that, 97 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: really sad tail between my legs. Just Ashiel broke my heart, 98 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing. Go back home with your family. 99 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: We're not gonna be able to keep you on the 100 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: on the roster here. So I lost my publishing deal 101 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: and basically was like, that's it, Okay, I can accept it, 102 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I left. So what did that feel like? 103 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: I mean, you said tail between your legs, but what 104 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean were you just so defeated, and like direction 105 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: lists at that point, direction lists, Um, you know, I 106 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: didn't didn't write a hit song. I I still have it, 107 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: but um durned out. But you know, I just I 108 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: just yeah, I felt like I'm just like why did 109 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: I come here? My heart's broken? Like I'm not going 110 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: to be doing music anymore. Like do I want to 111 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: get into nursing? Because I was a nurse assistant for 112 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: like many many years, so I kind of started heatering 113 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: with that idea again and everything, and um, yeah I 114 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: was a little directualist. I'd say, yeah, yeah, I just 115 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: imagine that would feel super overwhelming. And I think it's 116 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: like any time that you're in this industry or any 117 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: sort of creative feel where you're kind of pouring your 118 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: heart and soul into something. To me, at least in 119 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: my my job, it's just become such a big part 120 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: of my identity and so like I think about, you know, 121 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: even anytime I've lost a client or anything, it's sort 122 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: of like shakes me up to my core because you 123 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: pour so much into these jobs that it's like, wait, 124 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: where do I go from here? Did you have that? Yeah? 125 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: But it's also that's such a good thing though. It's 126 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: a good thing to pour everything and everything I love. 127 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: I love that you do that because I really think 128 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: in the same way where I give it my all 129 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: and I just love human beings. So that's like why, 130 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: that's why I love this job so much. It's where 131 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: do you called a job? But I work like it's 132 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: a job. You know, a lot of hours put in 133 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: and stuff, but I just I love the fact that 134 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: it's like I'm doing something that means something to people, 135 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: and they're so quick to tell you that you know, 136 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, So when I see somebody they're like, hey, 137 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: I love your song, I'm like, get out of here. 138 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: We're family right there, and we have we have a connection. 139 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: We have a connection and it's so cool and I 140 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: love it. So yeah, yeah, well we'll get back more 141 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: to that part of the story. But so you go 142 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: back home and you're nursing a breakup and trying to 143 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: find out what you want to do with the rest 144 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: of your life, and then this fire happens. Yeah, talk 145 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: us through that absolutely. So when I got back to California, 146 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: I just I worked a lot of just random jobs. 147 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: I drove uber, I did nurse assistant stuff, I was 148 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: working at the time of the fire. I was working 149 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: in Chica, the town right next to Paradise. UM, and 150 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: I see you and trauma as a nurse assistant. So 151 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm in there giving chest impressions every day and helping 152 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: the nurses turn people who are on then laters and 153 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: like families coming in. It's just it was a really 154 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: like very intense job, and I loved it so much. 155 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: It was really rewarding, Like every day I'm like, I'm 156 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: doing something that's like making a difference. UM. And it 157 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: was kind of like our our biggest fear in Paradise 158 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: if we ever had a fire, they'd be really hard 159 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: because it's a small town. There's not a whole lot 160 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: of ways out and stuff like that. Well, the night 161 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: of the fire, I was up really late because I 162 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: worked night shift and I had a doctor's appointment that 163 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: morning at nine o'clock in the morning, and I was 164 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: up to probably three forty five, which is normal for me. UM, 165 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: but normally I would just sleep in until like two 166 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: or one or whatever it was. UM And then um, Yeah, 167 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: I woke up and my mom's texting me there's a 168 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: fire in the area, Like there's always fire so I 169 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: didn't really take it that right California. I mean, come on, 170 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, when I got to my car and people 171 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: are like loading up their cars, and I'm like, okay, 172 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: it's looking kind of like and there's a there's a glow. 173 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: There's like a really like big orange glow. And uh. 174 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: I lived like like right on the main road to 175 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: get out of town, like luckily, you know, like rgular. 176 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: So I just got my car, I drove down a 177 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: cheek oh and as I'm looking back up, I'm like, 178 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it looks like armageddon. I'm like, this 179 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: is getting a really bad. My brother is calling me, like, dude, 180 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: we're having a really hard time getting out of here. 181 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: He was a youth pastor. He's like about students that 182 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: are like stuck, you know in traffic and stuff like that. 183 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: And uh, I went to my doctor's appointment and then 184 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: came out. My brother made it out, okay, him and 185 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: his wife and new baby. Um, but we lost every everything, 186 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, like, um, I had an apartment down there 187 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: that I was renting, didn't have renters insurance. Uh. But 188 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: but I mean the clothes I don't really care about 189 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: and stuff, but it was my stuff that I had 190 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: from my grandparents, my baby toys, I had my stuffed 191 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: animals since I was a kid. My treasure box with 192 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: my first link wanted to be two tickets that I had, 193 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, like the stuff that like I'll never never 194 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: can replace it. And uh, I was really lucky that 195 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: my dad had extra room at his house and Chica 196 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: so we all moved in there. So oh my god. 197 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: You know, it's so interesting, like the different areas of 198 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: the United States have they're kind of like tragedies or 199 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: natural disasters that can have it. I'm from Louisiana, so 200 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: we have hurricanes and floods, and my grandparents lost their 201 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: entire house that they had lived in for forty years 202 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: to a flood, and it was so interesting, like the 203 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: experience in and of itself, like you're so grateful for 204 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: your safety number one, you know, and they were older, 205 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: so it was very grateful everything safe, but then going 206 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: into their house to just clean it out. I mean, 207 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: just like you said, it's not the like the clothes 208 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: or the tiny things, but it's the things you can't replace. 209 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: And you don't really realize when people say, like you 210 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: lose everything, what that actually means, Like we had to 211 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: go get them toothbrushes, and like, you literally lose everything 212 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: and it's so overwhelming and just like the grief that 213 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: comes with the memories or the pictures or the things 214 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: like that. So what was the thing that surprised you 215 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: the most about losing everything? Like what came up the 216 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: most with that? Yeah? I think, Um, like it's weird. 217 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: Like sometimes like I was just talking to somebody to 218 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: do their day about everything, and I just remembered my 219 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: treasure box. Like like it's kind of like I start 220 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: to think about certain things and like, yeah, I don't 221 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: have that, Like yeah, like I just because I don't 222 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: know if I've sat down and gone through everything that 223 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: I've really lost that was sentimental to me. But I 224 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: know the main things. But once in a while ago, 225 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: oh yeah that coin or like yeah, that kind of 226 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: thing happens to me and stuff. So it makes me 227 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: pretty sad, you know. Um. But yeah, I mean I'm 228 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: just grateful because if I would have would have been 229 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: home two hours later the fire hit my apartment, I 230 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: guess is where it hits, so I would have for 231 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: sure been sleeping, so I definitely would have made it out. Um, 232 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: And then I wouldn't be here. So I genuinely believe that, 233 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: like I got a second chance at life. So it's 234 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: really changed my entire perspective on everything, and I'm much 235 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: more present, much more loving to my friends and family, 236 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: and it really changed me. So now it's kind of 237 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: like all bets are off, like I don't I'm going 238 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: to go for it whatever it isn't why not? I mean, 239 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: so this fire happen in two thousand and eighteen. It 240 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: was started from a campfire, is that what I read? 241 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: It was called the campfire? Was called the campfire, okay, 242 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: But there was some sort of like faulty wires or 243 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: mines or something from the lecture company that ended up 244 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: sparking something. And then it just there was wind. There 245 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: was a perfect storm. I mean it was like, yeah, 246 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: yeah about guide for that one. Oh my god, yeah 247 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: that is crazy. So all your family was thankfully okay, 248 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: but you guys just lost everything. And I read that 249 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: you then kind of started writing again. And so I've 250 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: always been like really envious of songwriters for this reason. 251 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: It's like you go through a breakup and you can 252 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: pour your feelings out into something where the rest of 253 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: us just have to go to therapy, you know. Um, 254 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: but so what what started happening for you musically to 255 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: kind of nurse these wounds of losing everything? Well, just 256 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: a quick side. I think we all need some sort 257 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: of medium, right, like out with that is. Maybe it's 258 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: painting so yours, maybe it's I mean, I don't know 259 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: what it is, but I think we all have been 260 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: weeding my garden lately, just to tell you. It's very 261 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: tangible like being out outside with that with nature. I 262 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: love it. I love that so much. Yeah, I mean 263 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: it's just let's let's find a medium, right exactly. But yeah, 264 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: I know sou a buddy of mine that I knew 265 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: when I lived in Nashville the first time. He was 266 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: my manager Starbucks and I totally got fired there. Um, 267 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: they wanted me to fir from Starbucks. You have the 268 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: want me to come in. I was like, what are 269 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: you talking about? Right? They wanted you to actually working 270 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: super D So I didn't come for a few days 271 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: and they're like You're done. I'm like, are you kidding me? 272 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: Like anyways, Um, So Tom, his name is Tom, and 273 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: he ended up joining a band called Florida Georgia Line. 274 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: He was played bas and Uh, yeah, it was weird. 275 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: It was like Tom's playing for f g L, like 276 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: it's so cool. But he reached out to a company 277 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: and they actually sent me a guitar because I lost 278 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: my guitars in the fire. Yeah, so I found his 279 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: guitar senting on my front porch and uh. I ended 280 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: up writing a song about paradise and the fires and 281 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 1: um yeah, just like I saw that instantly was just 282 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: connect thing with my community really well. Was helping me 283 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: through it. Like it was meaning a lot to people, 284 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: Like they're like, gosh, the song, like have it on 285 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: repeat right now, and and it's and it's helping me process. 286 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to cry. And then I hear this, 287 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm like that's so cool, Like, um so I just 288 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: kind of sort of went wow, the power of music, 289 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That whole concept just really 290 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: hit me, like this really helps people. So inspired me 291 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: to start writing songs again for sure. So you wrote 292 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: it's called one of these Days was a song and 293 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: it read that it just kind of picked up like wildfire. 294 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh that wasn't weird. It didn't actually mean that one's happened, 295 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: but yes, it did. It spread like wildfire which I 296 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: guess is an interesting Freudian slip there. But um, but 297 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: you got you did a couple. I think it was 298 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: something with pit Bull. What was this thing? Tell us 299 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: about that? I started doing like I would play for 300 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: other survivors, like in the area, and I got asked 301 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: to to do a big old fundraiser at this huge 302 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: arena UM in Sacramento, UM where I opened up for 303 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: ex Ambassadors in uh in pit Bull Mr Worldwide. So 304 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: I why, yeah, that's so this is when it's hitting you, like, Okay, 305 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: this is actually doing something. This song is helping people, 306 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: but it's also really growing. Yeah, but like it was, 307 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: it was definitely about that too, But I just I 308 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: don't know if I was really like thinking about anything 309 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: like that was like a benefit thing coming. This is 310 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: really cool that I get to do this benefit show. 311 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Like That's kind of where it was still 312 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: at that point then and then I started writing more songs, 313 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: and then eventually I got a band together, started doing shows, 314 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: I got reconnected with my folks in Nashville, started flying 315 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: out to Nashville for the first time since everything that happened, 316 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: which was crazy to come back after like ten years. Um, 317 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, I just I just and then I 318 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: ended up doing an ep UM where I wrote a 319 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: song called Wildfire and uh and uh just like another 320 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: few songs and then um. Eventually my friends were like, hey, dude, 321 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: like like living in Chico, it's it's good, but it's 322 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: it's like hindering you. It's not hurting you, but it's 323 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: hindering you. Like I don't know if I could ever 324 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: go back, you know, and they're like, you gotta do it, 325 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: So I I gotta go fund me going, and my 326 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: friends all helped me with that. So they got to 327 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: go fund me to get me back to like sending 328 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: it back to Nashville, the big party. So they all 329 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: helped me do it. And then I packed up my 330 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: Honda Civic and I had about a month and a 331 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: half two months where I couldn't move to Nashville because 332 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: my least didn't start. So I'm like, and I had 333 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: to move out of my dad's house because he sold it. 334 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: So I was theoretically, you know, nomadic. Yeah, so you know, 335 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: I slept in my car, and I slept in rest stops. 336 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: I like camping in Colorado. I went to random towns 337 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: and met people and ended up staying at houses and 338 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: just kind of had like a really cool it was 339 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: it was really special. That road trip changed my life. 340 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah what did you walk away learning from 341 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: that road trip that I don't need anyone really like 342 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: like like if I ever, you know, find the right 343 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: person in my life, that's gonna be the cherry on 344 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: top for like my life, you know what I mean. 345 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: But like I can do this myself, you know what 346 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean. And I love hanging out with just me, 347 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, and that that's okay. And I was like, wow, 348 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't have this is weird, but okay, but I 349 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: had moments where I was so lonely, like like scared 350 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: and like all this stuff. But yeah, it was just 351 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: it was just a really special special It was just 352 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: a growth thing. You know. I had a lot of 353 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: think like, you know, it sounds like you have the 354 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: same thing I have where it's like in any journey 355 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: that I'm on, if I really opened myself up to 356 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: the people around me, like it could be it's not 357 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: people who look like me, live like me, have had 358 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: the same history as me. Um, they could be a 359 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: lot older, they could be a lot younger, whatever it is. 360 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: But if I open myself up to really connecting. Um, 361 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: my journey becomes so much greater because I'm learning constantly. 362 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: And then you really do realize that maybe we don't 363 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: need anyone, like we are self sufficient, and also we 364 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: need everyone and we're all connected exactly, so you're never 365 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: actually alone. True true? Yeah, yeah, Like I definitely that's 366 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: that's the their point right there, because it's like I 367 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: just knew that I could. I'm okay if I'm by myself, 368 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be. I feel like I've always needed 369 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: people around me at all times, and yeah, sort of 370 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: went like, Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna survive here, 371 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Well, I love that you took a 372 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: tragedy and sort of spun it and it kind of 373 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: gave you this whole new purpose. And so now you're 374 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: obviously back in Nashville and you're writing and you have 375 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: a new record deal, and we'll talk about that in 376 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: a second too. But why do you think tragedy brought 377 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: you back to music? Just because it's like I saw 378 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: what music could do for tragedy. I saw what it 379 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: could do for me, I saw what it could do 380 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: for my friends. In my community, and it's really healing. 381 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: It's it's amazing. So I think, what's cool about where 382 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm at right now versus when I was twenty three? Uh? 383 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: You know, and I've said this a few times, but 384 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: if I was twenty three years old in the position 385 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: I'm in right now, I would have made it about me, 386 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: Like right, it would have been about, oh my gosh, 387 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: I have a record deal, Oh my gosh, look at 388 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: the oh you know what I mean. And now it's 389 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: like it's all about everyone else, and like, I have 390 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: a really clear mission and purpose that I just want 391 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: to bring hope through my songs. I have drinking songs. 392 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: I definitely do like party songs, but I think like 393 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: the core heartbeat of what my music is is hope 394 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: and and and and that kind of thing. So I 395 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: think that's that's my real mission and purpose of why 396 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm doing music now. So it's it's easier to you know, 397 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: what what to do when you have a clear purpose. 398 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: So so you would say, your your purpose is to 399 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: bring hope to people, right, Wow, what has your experience 400 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: been with that? It's kind of one of those things 401 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: that's like that's my purpose envision, But it's happening naturally 402 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: with the songs and stuff. So I'm like, I'm I'm 403 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: hearing stories of people going like, man, I'm going through 404 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: this really tough thing and your songs are helping me 405 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: so much. Or man, this made me pick up the 406 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: phone and call my mom. You know that I'm talking 407 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: in a while, or dude, I'm getting married to this one, 408 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: or this other guy reached out. This is just a 409 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: quick side note. It's really important to share this with you. 410 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: But I wrote the song called I Don't Want to 411 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: Go to Heaven and and he this this guy, this 412 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: lady reached out and she was like, hey, how was 413 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: at your show and in Boise, Idaho? And my husband 414 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: couldn't go because he's terminally ill with cancer and he's 415 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: not he wasn't strong enough to come, but he loves 416 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: your song so much. It's really helping him. And so 417 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, okay, can I send 418 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: him a message of video message or something like. So 419 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: I ended up connecting with this guy named Reid and 420 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: we started talking and he did it. He did a 421 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: TikTok with my song and stuff in the hospital, and uh, 422 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: I just I got like like a prayer chain slash 423 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: positive vibes thing going on my uh on my TikTok 424 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: and got all these people to like just send a 425 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: word of encouragement or just whatever. And it was so good. 426 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: It was so amazing. And then like a couple of 427 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: weeks later, she texted me and she said that he 428 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: passed away. You know, he's like that song like helped 429 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: our family so much. You know, it was like, man, 430 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: like that that makes everything worth it right there, you know. 431 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: And but yeah, so and then we ended up setting 432 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: a video, uh playing the song for his funeral and 433 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: stuff like that. We son, we reached out and sent 434 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: her a whole thing of flowers and like that's the 435 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: that's like, that's that's the heartbeat of what we do. 436 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: You know. Well, I love that you're bringing that energy 437 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: to music because i' feel like it's like you said, 438 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: when you were twenty three, you were very much like, 439 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: oh I got a record deal and this is all 440 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: about me. And I think that's a lot of what 441 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: takes over the entertainment industry a lot. You know, it's 442 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: and it's natural that our egos take over. But it's 443 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: just like, you know, I want to be famous or 444 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: I want to be successful, and we kind of missed 445 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: the point sometimes of connecting with the people and that 446 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: it's truly, like you said, where the heartbeat is and 447 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: what the whole purpose of I think music and performing 448 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: can bring. And so I'm so grateful that you're coming 449 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: in with that mentality. That's the best part. It's the 450 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: best part if you're not, if you're not meeting the 451 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: people and talking to them like that's my that's my 452 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: favorite part because that's the rewarding part. Like that's the 453 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: big reward. So it's like that the reward isn't the stage, 454 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: Like the reward isn't like I got a song out 455 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: or whatever. Those are like so exciting and I'm so stoked. 456 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: I love doing music. I love write. The reward is 457 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: like being somebody who's got tears streaming on their face. 458 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: They've got a tattoo that says under my skin on 459 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: their arm. They're like, your song is our song? Man, 460 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: Like you have no idea and they're just crying. I'm 461 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: just like, dude, like that connection that is your reward. Lately. 462 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: That's the thing about what I was saying about, You're 463 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: never alone. It's like the more you start sharing your story. 464 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you find this, but I know 465 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: for me it's like even when I share my hard 466 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: times with people and I'm like opening up, it can 467 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: be really vulnerable. But at the same time, then you 468 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: meet other people who have either gone through the same 469 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: journey or experience something similar or are greatly impacted by 470 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: what you were able to share and it's helped them 471 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: on their journeys somehow, and so like to me, it's 472 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: always worth it, right, yes, yeah, Well tell us what 473 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: you have going on. So you're now signed to a 474 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: record deal with Sony and you're writing obviously, I know 475 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: you have a writing a poem after this, so tell 476 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: us what's going on. I'm writing a ton um. I've yeah, 477 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: just been writing a bunch over there. So I got 478 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: my publishing deal first with Sony, So I'm Sony Publishing 479 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: Sony Records. So the best thing ever, by the way, 480 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: to get a publishing deal before a record deal, because 481 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: like a year, solid year and a half of just 482 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: like writing every day, learning my voice more, learning what 483 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: I want to say, like because I don't know, it's 484 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: just songs are getting better and that we're growing and 485 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: all this stuff. But I'm I'm really excited because I 486 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: have a need song coming out that Uh, I'm just 487 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: really jazzed about. It's kind of like a it's kind 488 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: of a breakup anthem. Okay, I love this one of 489 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: those like like you just want to say it, like 490 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna waste whiskey on you know. It's like that. 491 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: So I've been using TikTok is an awesome tool, and 492 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: it's definitely helped me kind of sort of gauge you know, 493 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: what people are digging and stuff. But the song is 494 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: called Whiskey on you. Um it's coming out May six, 495 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: and uh, I am so fired up about it. To 496 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: tell me about TikTok because I just cannot get into it. 497 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like I keep telling myself I'm 498 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: just too old, and like I don't want to do 499 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: the dances. What do you like about TikTok? I need 500 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: to know more. It's so much more than dances, that's 501 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: the thing. Like, and I thought it dances. I thought 502 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: like that was the whole thing. It's just kind of 503 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: figuring out your lane. I mean, what's great about TikTok. 504 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: You don't have to be precious? Okay. That was The 505 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: first thing I learned with there is don't be precious. 506 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: So like you know on Instagram, like okay perfect, So 507 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: like on Instagram you wanted to kind of have a flow. Yes, 508 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: to have that flow, it needs to look very cohesive, 509 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: very choosy about your post TikTok on whatever, like you 510 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and not overthinking anything. But it's 511 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: been so cool because it helps you connect with people, 512 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: especially fans of you. Like so if you're on there, 513 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: like it would definitely like you'd connect with people in 514 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: a whole other way. And I think it would just 515 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: be really good for you. I mean, I think I 516 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: really think you should. You're missing out. If you're not 517 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: doing it, you're missing out. I'm all right, I guess 518 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: it needs at TikTok, I gotta fine a lane though, 519 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: because it is not doing dancing videos. It could be. Okay, 520 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: so you're inspirational and your spiritual and all that kind 521 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: of stuff, just talking about like maybe like a little 522 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: positive moments. Maybe they're like thirty seconds like hey, it's 523 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: your Monday and you know, just today, just today's day, 524 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: let's just be grateful or whatever whatever it is that 525 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: you're share these little things and people will like they'll 526 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: save it and share it, and you know, you're like, yeah, 527 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: I love this. I love this. You're gonna all of 528 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: a sudden see me doing all these inspirational that'll be 529 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: like Nate Smith INSPOI things, send them over hashtag. Yeah, 530 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: do you know your number on the inngiogram? Because I 531 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: hear a lot of some a certain number and I 532 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: was just curious about had it right. I've done it 533 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: like three times, got the email and lost the email. So, okay, 534 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: what do you think I am? I feel like you 535 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: might be a two? You have you seen which would 536 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: be like a caretaking um, like the nursing piece of you. 537 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: Like that was kind of where I was picking up 538 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: on that connecting with people I don't know. Take the 539 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: test and get back to us. Are you a too? No, 540 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm a four, but I tested as a two for 541 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: a very long time. The four is like the intense creative. 542 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: So love that. Yeah, most days. Is that possible you 543 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: could be like have a wing or something like that. 544 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: It's possible that you have a wing. Um, I think 545 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm high on the two. Yeah, but but that's not 546 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: my wing. But anyway, if they is all this stuff 547 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: we talked about the Instagram a lot on this podcast, 548 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: so the people know you take the test give back 549 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: to us. Also, where can people find you to go 550 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: check out this music? Okay, so you can find me 551 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram pretty easy. It's just Nate Smith. Apparently there's 552 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: a few weird accounts out there that aren't me, so 553 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: just just make sure it's me. Okay on Instagram, Nate 554 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: Smith Music on TikTok, and then in my bio you 555 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: can currently pre save Whiskey on you and I've been 556 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: I was fighting. I'm like, as soon as we get 557 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: that link, guys, I'm putting it out. I don't care 558 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: what you're doing, Like, well, no, right away, right away. 559 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: So we put it up yesterday and we've already got 560 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people saving it and um so yeah, 561 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: just the links you should totally would mean the world 562 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: to me. If you would, I would be so stoked. Yeah. Absolutely. 563 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: And then this song comes out May six, right, this 564 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: is exciting. I've never been so excited about a song 565 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: coming out. I'm just like flipping out so amazing. Well, Nate, 566 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here, and thank you 567 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: for sharing your story. It's like the perfect way to 568 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: wrap up this month for us of taking tragedy turning 569 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: it into something positive and hopeful. And this new journey 570 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: for you. I'm really excited for you and to see 571 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: what's to come. Don't be a stranger want Thanks for 572 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: having it all right, Thanks so much, and thank you 573 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: guys for listening. Thanks for listening to The Velvet's Edge 574 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: podcast with Kelly Henderson, where we believe everyone has a 575 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: little velvet and a little edge. Subscribe for more conversations 576 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: on life, style, beauty and relationships. 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