WEBVTT - WAGs and Sister Wives

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<v Speaker 1>Swine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah's back. Last week it was just we.

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<v Speaker 3>Had too much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was too hot to handle, too hot to handle.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we have a very hot show today too.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm staring at a picture of Nicole Williams. She's hot,

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<v Speaker 2>she is wants to move this paper away from you,

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<v Speaker 2>bib Sorry, she's a wag. Which, by the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to feel bad again. So remember how last week

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was judging. I felt bad for judging. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I never watched Wags because I was just like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, these these professional athlete wives have so much problems,

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<v Speaker 2>like so many problems in their life that just I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. But I'm excited to meet her.

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<v Speaker 1>Weren't you a professional athlete wife?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I like so confused looking at her?

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to make sure I wasn't absolutely losing

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<v Speaker 1>my marbles because I haven't like I don't have a coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, no, you know what I mean, I actually don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Sarah, Wait wait, I'm confused. Wait you

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that you're I'm so confused. Yes, I am

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<v Speaker 2>the wife of a football player. But for former. Yes, so,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just never like, when I saw the Wags,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, they're they look different than me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm she just walked in. She looks different than me.

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<v Speaker 2>She's you know, so what is happening? He Nichol Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>So I basically just got called out.

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<v Speaker 1>She literally just tried to sit here and say, I

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<v Speaker 1>just like, can't you know, I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I felt like I couldn't relate to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the Wags because but then Sarah just goes, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're married.

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<v Speaker 1>A wag, a wag, you were whive and girlfriend of

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<v Speaker 1>sport you for.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just but again, you even saw the show

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<v Speaker 2>and you rolled your eyes. Don't mine now about what

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<v Speaker 2>wags the girls.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not worried about that. I'm still suck on the

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<v Speaker 4>whole situation.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't consider him a pro.

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<v Speaker 4>I know at the end of our relationship was still playing,

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<v Speaker 4>but I still play.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, So, Okay, fine, I'm a wag, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just like, like what they like, own it, own it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a wag. Well, Larry doesn't play anymore. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a former your former Okay, I guess I just you

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<v Speaker 2>guys just seem like just so beautiful and and so

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<v Speaker 2>are Waggy looked in lately?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I like, look at you. Oh she gave

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<v Speaker 1>birth like a minute ago too, Oh my god. And

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<v Speaker 1>he likes to tell everyone are you still on Wags?

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<v Speaker 1>No shows is done. We did three seasons and did

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<v Speaker 1>you have fun?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun, it was good. It was a great experience.

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<v Speaker 2>How are the girls? See, I just feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't relate to those girls. Maybe that's why. But see,

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<v Speaker 2>you seem really sweet. So that's my whole point. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me just circle back around here. My whole point was

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<v Speaker 2>that last week I maybe had judged one of the

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<v Speaker 2>people we had on the show because she was dating.

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<v Speaker 2>She found her partner while he was in prison, so

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<v Speaker 2>so exactly, so you kind of have that that's weird,

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<v Speaker 2>so a little I was a little judgmental in the

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<v Speaker 2>very beginning, which is wrong. And so I said, I feel.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad because athletes, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop stop. What I said was, I'm gonna feel bad

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<v Speaker 2>because I also prejudged the Wags before I met you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, because I can't relate to a you

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<v Speaker 2>can't relate to a beautiful woman. Like, I literally can't

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<v Speaker 2>listen to you say that again. Well, I'm just and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's because, yes, I didn't meet my husband after

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<v Speaker 2>his professional career or on the outs of it. But

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<v Speaker 2>so when I saw the show, I just didn't relate

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<v Speaker 2>to it. And you guys looked all beautiful, and you

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<v Speaker 2>guys were really yelling and having all these problems, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>how hard can it really be?

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<v Speaker 1>You're married to a I would actually like to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what could be her problem? How long did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys date before you got married?

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<v Speaker 2>Six years? Thank you? I'm with my boyfriend six years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, she's got to struggle and I give it

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<v Speaker 2>to her. So Nicole, maybe you can help my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah out. She gave him an ultimatum that said, she said,

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<v Speaker 2>if I don't have the ring by New Year's I'm gone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what month is it here?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to try, right, you got to like light

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<v Speaker 1>a fire, well if it were not ready, like I

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<v Speaker 1>can go full psycho, but I'm not ready to go full.

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<v Speaker 2>Psycho yet, right, So how did you get the ring?

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<v Speaker 3>Please?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you wag out?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>I was actually really patient, but until like the last

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<v Speaker 6>the last year, like the year he proposed was like

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<v Speaker 6>the year where he was like, oh god, she really

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<v Speaker 6>wants My thing was, I'm getting older. I want to

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<v Speaker 6>start a fan. I'm thirty five. Okay, me too, So

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted, oh my god, we could be friends.

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<v Speaker 2>See we have a lot in common already. Okay, same age.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was just like, I want to start a family.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm really old fashioned and I don't like things going

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<v Speaker 6>backwards on the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm not I'm not having a baby. I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>doing any of that. Saying like we already lived together.

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<v Speaker 6>That's bad enough for me because I was like, I

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<v Speaker 6>want to do it all in order, so we live together.

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<v Speaker 2>That where are you from Toronto?

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<v Speaker 6>I was born in Newfoundland, so I'm a really small

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<v Speaker 6>small town all yeah, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Moved to Toronto at fourteen. I love Toronto. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I got okay, So okay, so you want to go

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<v Speaker 2>in order ahead? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was just like, this is just crazy, Like

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<v Speaker 6>we already lived together, we have our first house together,

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<v Speaker 6>we've been together for so long. Why are we not

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<v Speaker 6>even talking about marriage? But you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 6>kids us. All he wants to do is talk about children,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm like, let's come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go in order here.

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<v Speaker 6>And finally he actually proposed to me on an episode

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<v Speaker 6>of Wags and we got Yeah, we got married on

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<v Speaker 6>the season finale.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that he was just waiting.

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<v Speaker 6>He's he's also he also likes everything to be like

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<v Speaker 6>very perfect, not necessarily in order, but when he has

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<v Speaker 6>an idea, like he wanted to really make it a

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<v Speaker 6>surprise and do it when I'm least expecting it, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was. I felt like I was always expecting it,

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<v Speaker 6>So he didn't want to like give me, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he didn't want to do it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's like, I'm just gonna wait till she gives up.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, that's where I'm not your way out. Honestly, That's

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<v Speaker 2>like the thing. Oh my god, did you guys? What

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<v Speaker 2>was I mean? Did you trust him the entire time?

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<v Speaker 2>So when Larry and I first met.

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<v Speaker 6>I was a little skeptical because he was an athlete,

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<v Speaker 6>and I've dated an athlete prior, which sport football, So

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<v Speaker 6>I was already like, we already tested that out. So

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<v Speaker 6>when I met him, obviously, you know he looks like

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<v Speaker 6>a football player. I could already tell Yeah. When we

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<v Speaker 6>first met, I was very hesitant, and so it took

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<v Speaker 6>about two months for him to get me on a date.

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<v Speaker 6>Like we'd text and stuff, but I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>newly single. I'm not going back down that road.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>They get the stereotype obviously, yes, but then there's also

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<v Speaker 6>something that tells you like, oh my god, he seems

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<v Speaker 6>like such a great guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like a mom is why always time out? Why

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<v Speaker 2>are you looking at me like that? You you were

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<v Speaker 2>the stereotype like so, and he's looking at me.

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<v Speaker 4>Last week. All right, let's keep it going, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like looking at me like, see, we're not all

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<v Speaker 2>like that. You were like that, so don't even give

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<v Speaker 2>me that stereotypical mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>So we already have a wall up when it comes

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<v Speaker 6>to like any athlete, just because of what we see,

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<v Speaker 6>what we hear, what we might have been through. So

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<v Speaker 6>I did have that wall up, and it was like

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<v Speaker 6>a secure wall. So he really had to like take

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<v Speaker 6>each brick out one by one. It took like two

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<v Speaker 6>months and then I was like, okay, we can go

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<v Speaker 6>to dinner. And then you know, I'm just like I

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<v Speaker 6>felt like I was judging everything that he did because

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<v Speaker 6>I was just so like, you know, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were almost wanting it to not work. Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is just not going to work.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was so against the whole athlete thing, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, we can be friends. But then he

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<v Speaker 6>was just like so different. But then you tell yourself,

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<v Speaker 6>You're like, of course he's so different. He wants to

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<v Speaker 6>date you. He's gonna like, you know, you're beautiful. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>So I gave him. I gave him a while before

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<v Speaker 6>we started like really dating seriously. I think we met

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<v Speaker 6>in like December, and we started seriously dating like the

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<v Speaker 6>end of March.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>So he wanted to like introduce me to his mom

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<v Speaker 6>right away, and he was like I found it really

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<v Speaker 6>cool that, like he just has a sister and his mom.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, maybe he is different.

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<v Speaker 6>He was raised, you know, by women, and he has

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<v Speaker 6>a little sister, so he knows how to he knows

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<v Speaker 6>how women should be treated.

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<v Speaker 2>Start your ring. It's like blindly, Oh I saw it

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<v Speaker 2>minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 4>My god, it.

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<v Speaker 6>Is so pretty. Do you how long if he hasn't married,

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<v Speaker 6>then we've been married. It'll be two years in May.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you guys started the baby making process not yet.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, which is so weird because I thought when we

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<v Speaker 6>got married, i'd be like, Okay, let's go yeah. And

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<v Speaker 6>I think even in the season finale Wags, I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>all right, do you want to start working on a

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<v Speaker 6>baby nouse? You know, everybody was like get married, get married,

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<v Speaker 6>and now they're like one of you have them babies,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm like, it's been almost two years. So I

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<v Speaker 6>just think that it's all timing right now. Our careers are,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Larry's very busy and I'm very busy, and

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<v Speaker 6>we're both traveling a lot, so it's just hard to

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<v Speaker 6>like make like a plan to like really go for it.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think we're getting more now into let's just

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<v Speaker 6>see what happens and let it all happen naturally. But

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<v Speaker 6>we're not really like planning it, so we'll see what.

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<v Speaker 6>You have a baiting suit line? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>So what inspired you to make a bathing suit line?

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<v Speaker 6>So I've been modeling since I was like twelve years old,

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<v Speaker 6>so I was very heavy into fashion and then moving

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<v Speaker 6>to LA I was actually living in New York for

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<v Speaker 6>seven years and then when I moved to LA's when

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<v Speaker 6>I met Larry, and then also when I moved here

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<v Speaker 6>because of the weather here, naturally, like the jobs that

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<v Speaker 6>I was booking was a lot of swim where, a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Beach stuff, a lot of lingerie.

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<v Speaker 6>Like it was just a body, body, body, body, body,

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<v Speaker 6>And I wasn't used to that because being in New York,

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<v Speaker 6>I was just doing more fashion, more editorial, right, So

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<v Speaker 6>I just started noticing, like, swimsuits are not like it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's very hard to find something like for every body type,

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<v Speaker 6>every size yet, you know, because I was working with

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<v Speaker 6>girls who were like skinny and working with you know,

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<v Speaker 6>plus size women, and I just found like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>why don't I just try to like do this. My

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<v Speaker 6>mom was a seamstress growing up, so she, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>was always sowing all my clothes, making all my Halloween costumes.

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<v Speaker 6>And if there was anything that I wanted, my mom

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<v Speaker 6>be like, I can make that for you, and she'd

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<v Speaker 6>literally get on her sewing machine in and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'd have an outfit like that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think a part of watching my mom so

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<v Speaker 6>and a part of being you know, a model being

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<v Speaker 6>in the fashion world wanted I just wanted to. I

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to make something that you know, could make every

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<v Speaker 6>girl feel what size do you go up to?

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<v Speaker 2>I go up to a large right now.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm expanding right now and I want to so

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<v Speaker 6>extra small to large now and I want to go

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<v Speaker 6>I want to go to like double I think I'm

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<v Speaker 6>going to go to double XELF maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>My next collection. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I started off like more sexy and like

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<v Speaker 6>more unique pieces that you can wear to like beach

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<v Speaker 6>parties and stuff like that, to incorporate it, like wearing

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<v Speaker 6>wearing a body suits. And then my I just get

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<v Speaker 6>feedback from my customers and I listen to what they

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<v Speaker 6>say and what they want and where are you selling

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<v Speaker 6>them at? So right now it's online only. Okay, what's

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<v Speaker 6>the website?

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<v Speaker 2>Nealynn Collection? So that's n I a l y and

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<v Speaker 2>N collection dot com. What is your biggest issue with Larry?

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest issue? Jump right? And I just like to

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<v Speaker 2>just get real person like the relationships. It's just like

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<v Speaker 2>what is it, Like, what do you guys fight about

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<v Speaker 2>the most or what just really gets you just pissed

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<v Speaker 2>off at him? She's like, where do I start and

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<v Speaker 2>then just walk on out?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, did you guys fight a lot?

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<v Speaker 1>When you like did you fight about being married before

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<v Speaker 1>you're married, Like I want to get married.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get married. Yeah, and then and then

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<v Speaker 2>you got married in.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I got married, and then I just I'm

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<v Speaker 6>so let's just start off, I saying I'm really stubborn.

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<v Speaker 6>So he is, like I feel like he's like a genius.

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<v Speaker 6>He's the smartest person I know. And anytime he's he

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<v Speaker 6>like reads thousands of books. And right now, every time

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like he's into a book where he's like,

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<v Speaker 6>right now he's reading grain Brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of that? Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>So now every time I eat something, he's staring in

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<v Speaker 6>my face like leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Like every time a bottle eat food, okay, he's like

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<v Speaker 2>there's gluten in that, and there's this and that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like okay.

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<v Speaker 6>And anytime he reads something or like learns a new

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<v Speaker 6>way of, you know, doing something, he'll like preach and

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<v Speaker 6>he'll like sit down and want to teach me and

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<v Speaker 6>like preach it to me, and I'm like, can you

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<v Speaker 6>please let me learn things on my own? I like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it's enough just watching you do the right thing. I

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<v Speaker 6>can kind of grasp and want to do it too,

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<v Speaker 6>and like follow you. But when he tries to like

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<v Speaker 6>show me, like you should do it like this, and

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<v Speaker 6>do it this, and you should do this, I'm just like, babe,

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<v Speaker 6>oh my god, Like it's just pushing me further and

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<v Speaker 6>further from it, Like when you try to force me

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<v Speaker 6>to do something. Yeah, that's that's super frust That's definitely

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<v Speaker 6>one thing that really pisses me up. I want to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to learn on my own. I'm that type

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<v Speaker 6>of person. I pick up on whatever like I can.

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<v Speaker 6>I feed off of his energy. I watch what he's

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<v Speaker 6>doing and it makes me want to do it. But

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<v Speaker 6>when he sits me down and tries to like make

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<v Speaker 6>me read, like look, I highlighted this in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Book, stop and he'll highlight it.

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<v Speaker 6>So now he's gotten to the point where he'll go

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<v Speaker 6>to bed and he'll be reading at night. When I

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<v Speaker 6>wake up, there's a book on the counter with like

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<v Speaker 6>it's all highlighted, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I should stop highlighting rings and giving it.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, He's like, I know you're not going to pick

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<v Speaker 6>up a book and read it, so I just highlighted

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<v Speaker 6>it and just leave it out and if you feel

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<v Speaker 6>like you want to read it, you could read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh my god, So that's there's that. I love that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're really sweet. Do you drink wine? I drink?

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<v Speaker 2>We can be friends for real.

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<v Speaker 6>And Larry just told me yesterday actually that a glass

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<v Speaker 6>of red wine a day is really good for.

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<v Speaker 2>You, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, she says it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody you know that. It's It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a whine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Nicole, You're so sweet. I love you. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for coming on. Everyone, go get her collection again. It's

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<v Speaker 2>So this next guest, guests, this says how do you

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<v Speaker 2>say that? Guests?

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<v Speaker 4>The next guests?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the next guests.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's like, as like we asked for risks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really our time saying risks because I'm like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like an echo risks. It's just very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it. Anyways, I'm gonna be really honest.

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<v Speaker 2>I might be a little quiet in this next interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, I'm super triggered.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh oh, I'm not. I want to know everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's I'm gonna be very I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>judgmental over it and I'm triggered about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well and speak on that, because it's interesting. When I

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<v Speaker 4>was watching that like a primo video, that Toy had

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<v Speaker 4>sent one of the couples. I don't remember which one

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<v Speaker 4>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about sister wives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, one of the couples. Which one was it, but

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<v Speaker 4>basically the same kind of deal. The the potential sister

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<v Speaker 4>wife and the husband were texting and the wife was

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<v Speaker 4>reading their conversation and it basically kind of seemed like

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<v Speaker 4>they were sextying a little bit. And the wife was like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is this feels like cheating to me? But the

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<v Speaker 4>white and the wife was like, I'm not Actually, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think I'm okay with this.

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<v Speaker 5>Was this Dimitrian Ashley?

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<v Speaker 4>No, this was not Dmitrian Ashley. This is another couple.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>They brought her on board as a wife.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>This was just like the teaser for this season. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>can you ex play the basics of this. This is

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<v Speaker 8>a guy married to multiple women.

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<v Speaker 9>Right now, he's married to Ashley, but Vanessa is here,

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<v Speaker 9>and he is courting Vanessa to be the sister wife.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, but the actually sisters, they're just multiple because because legally,

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<v Speaker 8>polygamy is not legal in any state.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, But so there cannot be another Salt Lake you ta, No,

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<v Speaker 4>they know their thing is actually even stricter where you

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<v Speaker 4>cannot have a marriage license with another person. But even

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<v Speaker 4>in Utah, you cannot have another adult living with you

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<v Speaker 4>that has some type of marital relationship with you in

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<v Speaker 4>the same house.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then how do they have this TV show?

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<v Speaker 6>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 9>Did you all ever watch Big Love? No, it was

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<v Speaker 9>an amazingly good show on HBO. I didn't Bill Paxton

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<v Speaker 9>or Bill Paxton he did, I know, God rest his soul.

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<v Speaker 9>He had three wives and they each had different houses,

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<v Speaker 9>all next to each other. But they were always in

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<v Speaker 9>fear of getting caught, getting arrested.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess you can arrest it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so they don't. They have a TV show. They

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<v Speaker 2>have a TV show about this, so the cops can

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<v Speaker 2>go to their house. They know what's going on. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm super confused. Just so I know where

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<v Speaker 2>you stand, Sarah, where do you stand on this?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm not kidding, I'm just a little confused.

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<v Speaker 1>So this man is married to all these women or

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<v Speaker 1>he's just dating these women, He's he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Married to one, he's married to Ashley. And then the

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<v Speaker 4>whole concept is that they bring in another or female

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<v Speaker 4>as another quote unquote wife like acts like a wife,

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<v Speaker 4>but legally is not. So that's the thing I want

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<v Speaker 4>to ask them. How do they act like what's the

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<v Speaker 4>must be a wife? So, but legally they're not. Legally

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<v Speaker 4>they're not allowed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you stand on this, Michael, what's your stance on it?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't believe in polygamy?

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<v Speaker 2>Well I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Though.

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<v Speaker 2>They're basically just having an open affair, So you believe

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<v Speaker 2>in closed doors affairs. I'm obviously not anymore. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>like an open affair.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like an open relationship because people are consensual. There's

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<v Speaker 4>not an affair if it's if she agreed, if Ashley agrees, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Just being Devil's advocate and I'm being are you.

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<v Speaker 4>Words into into aship?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just being super triggered. So I'm like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you don't agree with this, but you agree with

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<v Speaker 2>closed door affairs?

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<v Speaker 4>When did I say agree?

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<v Speaker 3>My heart is racing.

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<v Speaker 4>Agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because that's what you did. So I'm like, that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean I agreed with it, but we might

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<v Speaker 1>find out that maybe, like one of these girls is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not actually down with it.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm gonna get them, but don't feel like you have

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<v Speaker 9>to hold back you you want to say maybe with

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<v Speaker 9>like a nice tone.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you guys, my heart is why are you staring

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<v Speaker 2>at me like that?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just looking at you.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm just you're not using a nice tone with your husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, everybody whoa Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Mark, but I just I get very upset.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand where you're coming from. I get it because

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<v Speaker 1>it is I mean, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just saying like, oh, I don't agree with this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, oh, but you agree on doing I'm sorry, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>is this better? Tone?

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<v Speaker 5>You agree?

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<v Speaker 2>But you agree with having an affair on your wife?

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<v Speaker 2>That's better?

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<v Speaker 4>What when did I say I agree with Like all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, you put words in my mouth. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>mean I agree with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you but okay, so but you did it.

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<v Speaker 4>Though right, and I was wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay, okay, time out really fast okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>real time talk. I hate going to the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 2>I just do. Especially with two kids, I usually forget

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks, Honny, You're welcome, sweetheart. So now here in the

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<v Speaker 4>studio we have Dimitri, Ashley, and Vanessa from Sister Wives

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<v Speaker 4>on TLC.

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<v Speaker 10>And it's actually Seeking Sister Wife.

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<v Speaker 4>Seeking Sister Wife. I'm sorry, that's another show. Good to know.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, you're redirected the second season of Seeking Sister

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<v Speaker 4>Wife Wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, Dmitri, you are married to Ashley. How long

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<v Speaker 2>have you guys? Been married?

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<v Speaker 6>For?

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<v Speaker 2>Nine plus years?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Nine plus years? Okay? And Vanessa over there you are

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to marry her as well. Yeah, so you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to like, h educate, educate me because I am

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<v Speaker 2>married to my husband and I do not want another

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<v Speaker 2>female in our relationship ever.

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<v Speaker 4>Which no, just full disclosure. I did have an affair.

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<v Speaker 4>There's infidelity in our relationship that was two and a

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<v Speaker 4>half years ago with discovery and that we've recovered in

0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:30.320
<v Speaker 4>our marriage and relationship. So that's something that we've gone through.

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<v Speaker 4>So that added element to this whole situation that Janna

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<v Speaker 4>feels a little bit triggered because of the things that

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:39.119
<v Speaker 4>we've been through in our personal relationship. So it's just

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<v Speaker 4>interesting to us just because of what we've been through.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so that is where forgive me the tone comes in.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not directed towards any of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all, I'm just are you okay with us? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Why you signed up for them?

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<v Speaker 11>I studied an anthropology, so I have a completely different outlook

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<v Speaker 11>on polygamy as a viable family dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not emotional for me.

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<v Speaker 11>It's like, I respect and value the communal, feminine centered

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<v Speaker 11>family unit. I feel like working with another woman cooperatively

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<v Speaker 11>together to raise a family and to create businesses, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>build a life together. It's just stronger in my mind,

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<v Speaker 11>and I've seen it, you know, in my academic studies,

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<v Speaker 11>and I wanted to recreate that for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you guys have kids?

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<v Speaker 3>We do?

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<v Speaker 2>How many kids three, You have three kids, and how

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 2>are the kids around us? I mean, is do you

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<v Speaker 2>see it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, they love having an extra mommy, you.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, around they don't know any different children or when

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 8>they're in their native environment, they don't. They don't know,

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<v Speaker 8>like you don't know you're broken to people make fun

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<v Speaker 8>of you, you know what I mean. So it just

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<v Speaker 8>is like you don't have to explain or define monogamy.

0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 8>You don't have to explain. I mean, you define in

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<v Speaker 8>the context everyone else may perceive you, but it's just

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<v Speaker 8>it just literally is.

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<v Speaker 11>And they're younger too, so six they news the oldest.

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<v Speaker 11>She's six, Nil's four, and then Kannadia is one. So

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<v Speaker 11>how do you go about finding Vanessa?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What was what was that? Like, Hey, we're married, do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to join in on our marriage? Or how

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:26.120
<v Speaker 2>did that conversation start? I'll answer that, Okay, take it away, Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 3>So kind of a longster, I'll try to keep it short.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year sometime I was on Twitter and I saw

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<v Speaker 3>this show Seeking Sister Wife trending pretty high, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what is this. I've heard of Seeking or

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 3>regular sister wives, but you know, Seeking Sister Wives, and

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 3>people were talking about this other wife on the show,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, well, this show sounds juicy. Let

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<v Speaker 3>me check it out. This sounds nuts. So I started

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:56.360
<v Speaker 3>watching it falls to you know, Mormon, white, traditional polygamist families,

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 3>and then I see Ashley Dimitri and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>whoa polygamis can look like this? And they seem so

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 3>like cool and normal and you know, kind of like me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was still kind of like, you know, polygamies

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:11.239
<v Speaker 3>for like other people, because I get it, like, you know,

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I for what have been cheated on in the past,

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 3>and it's the secrecy and the going behind the back

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 3>and everything. With this, it's all out in the open,

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 3>like she wants me here. And so anyways, I'm kind

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 3>of getting off track here. But when I started thinking

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 3>about it, I'm like, Okay, Like I love men exclusively,

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 3>but when I live with my friends that are girls,

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 3>it's so much fun, Like we have fun and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, Okay, with this type of situation, I

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 3>could have an awesome husband and an awesome, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>best friend to live with who could share motherhood and

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<v Speaker 3>all that and have it all in one house.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys, don't hook up them, no, Okay, no.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's so many questions. I'm trying to get them

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<v Speaker 4>all in order. How long? So you guys have been

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<v Speaker 4>married almost ten years? When did this? Has this been

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<v Speaker 4>from the beginning? You guys have kind of day been

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<v Speaker 4>polygamous day one? Yeah, since day zero? And then I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it is day zero. When I met her, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>my name is Dmitri.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm a workaholic, I drool when I'm really tired, and

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<v Speaker 8>this is my vision version of the family unit, you

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 8>know what I mean. So I didn't want to waste time,

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<v Speaker 8>fat off the bone. Let's get straight to it. If

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to fail, it's fail fast for sure. Had

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<v Speaker 8>that and she didn't say no.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, And again I didn't say no because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 11>new for me. It was something that I had heard

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<v Speaker 11>of before, and I just thought it was the universe's

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<v Speaker 11>way of playing a little joke, getting me prepared for

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 11>this new life that I was going to be living.

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<v Speaker 4>So have you guys had a sister wife before in

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 4>y'all's relationship or is this the first time? Like you're

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<v Speaker 4>really are you just seeking a new one? Or have

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<v Speaker 4>you guys had one in the past?

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<v Speaker 11>I mean We've dated quite a bit over the years.

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<v Speaker 11>We had a lot of growing to do, a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of mistakes to make figuring, you know, things out more the.

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<v Speaker 10>Mistakes on my side, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just you know, this is this thing where you

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<v Speaker 8>have to buifur kate like the immaturity of being a guy,

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<v Speaker 8>right versus like a functioning adult relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, it's going to be my question, how did

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you look at it? Not as cheating or you know

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.919
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like how were you like this? Like

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>do you have other partners or is it just him?

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<v Speaker 3>And then how is that? I would be like, well, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>well I.

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 8>Don't just come home with a chick and say like,

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<v Speaker 8>well here you go, like just make it work like

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 8>it's a consensus.

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<v Speaker 11>Well initially he was like you fine, And that was

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 11>hard because you know, the shows weren't out yet. People

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 11>weren't aware of this even being a real thing outside

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 11>of a book. So it was like you find her.

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<v Speaker 11>And then I was like, well, I don't know how

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 11>to talk to girls, Like how do I.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, because women know women better than men. We

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 8>just doing our threshold and requirements are this big. Doesn't

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 8>take a lot for a man, just just be alive

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 8>and we're happy, you know what I mean. And I'm

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 8>being consertious, but like, and.

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<v Speaker 11>I've had I've had women that were more interested in me,

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 11>and I'm like, well, that's not gonna work.

0:27:58.000 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>And that's how I feel like it would be so

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>hard to be like I.

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<v Speaker 11>Just yeah, yeah, I mean and then or if the

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 11>woman was more interested in him, yeah, because I'm.

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Super jealous, so I would go absolutely.

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 5>Well, I could do too, And so how did you like? Well?

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>So here here it is for me. And this is

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 3>a testament to Ashley because coming in as this second woman,

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like, oh easy, you know, she built

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 3>this whole family and life and children. I can't imagine

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 3>being the first wife and doing that and then being

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 3>open arms to me. So that's how gracious she is.

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm just kind of like, oh, here I am paying

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 3>love me kids, Hey, guys, you know it's it's been

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 3>so much easier for me.

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>So are you gonna have kids with Dmitri? I mean

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I would love to and you would be okay with

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that absolutely? Yeah?

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 9>Did the TV element make this way easier? I would

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 9>think that a little bit of fame, a little bit

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 9>of notoriety. I'm sure you've got haters, but like having

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 9>more public did that make it easier.

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 11>You mean to find easier to find or easier to.

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 9>Sort of live in a society that maybe isn't as

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 9>accepting of this.

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 8>Well, I think it's it's probably if you try affect

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 8>it out. Everyone's got their different perspective. For me, it

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 8>never matted it just because I just it just is

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 8>like I'm going to live this way regardless. I don't

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 8>need your approval, I don't need your your confirmation like

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 8>this is what's going to happen. So no, it didn't

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 8>make it. It didn't change anything in per se. It

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 8>brought more awareness to it, and quite frankly, probably more scrutiny.

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 8>So I have to not really defend but educate. If

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 8>people really want to understand why and what, then it's

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 8>more that conversation has been brought forward.

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 4>What tells you to have that mindset of this is

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 4>what a family dynamic looks like for you guys. I

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 4>actually you said you studied anthropology and everything, But for Dimitri, like,

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 4>what was it? Was it your upbringing? Was it religious beliefs?

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 4>Is it just something you realized on your own.

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, something I've realized on my own, not religious solve

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 8>to spiritual. There's him her, They out there for sure

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 8>doing it. For me, it's about feminine centricity. I feel

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 8>like the the ability to take care and labor this

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 8>real world is the man is the job of a man,

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 8>you know what I mean. I think women should be

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 8>able to express their creative freedom. So if I can

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 8>take care of you know, work and bills and all

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 8>that good jazz, they can birth epic things. And that

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 8>could be in a form of children, of course, or

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 8>it could be in the context of companies or projects

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 8>or just passion, projects.

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 10>Could be whatever.

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>What if she wanted to have another man?

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so I mean, and she can speak to this

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 8>as well, right for us? I mean that changes the dynamic.

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 8>This is how this is well because what we're doing

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 8>is called polygamy or polygyny polygyny specific specifically, if we

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 8>have another man, it would change to polyandry or polyamory,

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 8>so they're different relational constructs. We agreed to and understood

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 8>that we're going to do polygamy, so one masculine energy,

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 8>multiple feminine energies, and if that changes, that's fine. We'll

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 8>probably cry and scream and just part of ways that's

0:30:58.840 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 8>not what we initially.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 2>But if she just wants to, like because if you

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>get to sleep with two women, if she wants to

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 2>go out and have a you know, screw another dude,

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 2>why why is that a problem that she's not going

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 2>to mess up that scenario. But if I mean, if

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you're getting it, I feel like that's a little Well.

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 11>It depends on the relationship, as Deme truth saying, like,

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 11>for our relationship specifically, we signed up for the feminine

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 11>aspect of it, and me personally, I'm not interested in

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 11>another guy. I believe that feminine energy builds and creates,

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 11>whereas masculine energy is destructive.

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 3>And that's why when you put a bunch of men

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 3>in a room, they usually toush it up.

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 11>It's like, so that's not what I'm into, and so

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 11>it just it wouldn't work for our family dynamic. That

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 11>does not mean that it's not possible for other people

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 11>to live that way.

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 8>It's just not you know, and it's not about parent

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 8>it's not about sexual parody either. It's not like, well,

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 8>you get to have sex with exce and so I

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 8>want sex with Why Like that's not the it's not

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 8>the measure to say, well, you get to have someone

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 8>so I could have some too, or if you don't,

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 8>there's a disparity.

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 10>Now, that's not you know, that's not how you are

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 10>in ours in our relationships.

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 11>Some people do measure that way. They're like everything needs

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 11>to be equal.

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 7>You know, yeah, like if you did a then I

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 7>get to do be What was the hardest I'm sure,

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.479
<v Speaker 7>like you said, Charle and Err, throughout the last nine

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 7>ten years of y'all's relationship to figure this out and

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 7>to try to figure out the boundaries on what you

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 7>both need to make this successful.

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 4>What has been the hardest obstacle along with that that

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 4>has kind of repeated itself and kind of making this

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 4>a successful relationship between the three of you. I'm sure

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 4>there's more than one.

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 8>I mean, the hottest pot is from the man's perspective,

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 8>is getting past because so like we started off with

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 8>her trying to find the woman, then I would try

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 8>to find her, and then we I would be attracted

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 8>to the woman, and she's like no, diuicce, like this

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 8>is she does not fit, is not going to work.

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 8>Or again she might have an attraction, but you know,

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 8>a different type of attraction to the woman, and I'm like,

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 8>I'm that interested.

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 10>She drives me nuts.

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 8>So how do you reconcile you know, these wants and

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 8>desires into a single person and aggregate that in a

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 8>way that's gonna, you know, work for like, yes to come.

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 8>So I think to answer your question, the challenges from

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 8>me in particular were just being able to move and

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 8>lockstep with her, not move ahead of her. Again as

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 8>a guy, you you win? I mean again, we were competitive.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 8>So like I'm trying to, you know, let you know

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 8>that you're good, you're taking care of I can pay

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 8>your bills and you know everything's taken you know. So

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 8>how do you do that without pre selling the woman

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 8>or getting her all jazzed up and she's not even

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 8>there yet?

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, that's definitely hard.

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 11>And I do think too, like knowing what your boundaries

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 11>are and what you'll accept and the things that will

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 11>make or break your relationship, I don't think you really

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 11>know those initially until you actually start trying.

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, So that's why a lot of relationships have failed.

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 3>So what is Vanessa?

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 2>What is y'all status?

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Right now? We're dating, so you're just dating and you guys,

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>but you two lived together or no, YouTube lived together?

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Do you just like live next door?

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Are you down the street or do you live in

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the house as well?

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 3>I am visiting?

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 2>So okay, yeah, I mean do you want to get

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 2>married to her?

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely?

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, isn't that illegal?

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 8>Well, so we don't believe in state recognized marriage, Like

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 8>I don't need a piece of paper to ratify my marriage, right,

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 8>her last name is mine. We got all the financial

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 8>instruments and legal instruments in place that I expire and

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 8>all the good jazz.

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 10>That's no different.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Well how does that keep Vanessa safe?

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Then?

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Like, let's say, like crap goes down if you say

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.240
<v Speaker 2>you're married to her, but then hey, nothing's on paper.

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 2>You can't really take that to the court.

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 8>Well you can, so then you leverage those fiscal and

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 8>legal instruments. So again, she changed her last name, she

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 8>can have her own insurance policy, she's got I mean,

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 8>she's got her account. Like there's literally your marriage certificate

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.240
<v Speaker 8>just makes it the paper trail shorter into a single document.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 8>I have to have a couple more documents. But she

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 8>has the same exact power you would.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 2>So you guys, couldn't go to jail for what you're

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 2>doing then because.

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 10>We're not legally married.

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 8>That's big of me and no ca Okay, So for

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 8>since we've been Claire since day zero, like we're not

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 8>legally married, but again she has my legal last name.

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Gotcha.

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 10>You can do whatever you want.

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:55.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so that's how we.

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Protect ourselves for sure.

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:57.800
<v Speaker 10>Legally.

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.320
<v Speaker 2>What is your parents saying, Vanessa?

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 3>So unfortunately my father passed away from ten years ago.

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 3>That's okay. But so my first trip to go out

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 3>to see them, my mom and stepmom took me out

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:13.839
<v Speaker 3>to dinner for my birthday, and so I grew up

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 3>with my mom and stepmom being extremely close. My stepmom

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 3>is an amazing woman, So I always felt like I

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 3>had like sister wives mothers, you know. So when I

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 3>told them, I wasn't gonna tell. At first, I was like,

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go visit them, but it could be nothing,

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 3>so I won't. But then I was like, you know,

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 3>I'll just tell them. Yeah, And they're so lovely and

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 3>open minded. They're both hippies and they're like, this is wonderful,

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 3>this is a great La.

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 11>La.

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Where are you from?

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm born in New Jersey but grew up in Seattle.

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 4>Wow, okay, yeah, and what were you looking for going

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 4>into this? Did you have like a clear mindset on

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 4>what why you wanted to get into this kind of

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 4>relationship and what was it? And Dmitri and Ashley that's like, okay,

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 4>I had this could work with them.

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So you know, like I was saying earlier, before

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 3>I got track, I watched the show and then I

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 3>was like, about four episodes in, I was like, they

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 3>community hate so well, they're so lovely, Like something's got

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 3>to be off here. Let me do some investigating. And

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.479
<v Speaker 3>I found some Dmitri's Instagram and so I'm like looking

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 3>through his photos and I'm like, okay, this is his

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 3>real wife and children and liking some photos. He said,

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I like thirty photos. I like like five phots. I

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 3>would never do that, not that extra.

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>So then.

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 3>The next day he had written on one of my

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 3>pictures and we started talking and then he direct messaged

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 3>me and kind and he's like, you know, because I

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, I love you and Ashley I'm a fan,

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, you know, thank you so much for

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 3>the kind words. He's like, there's been a lot of

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 3>backlash for the show. He's like, I told Ashley, we

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 3>find our forever wife after this, she'll be a keeper.

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 3>So at that point, I was like, is he fishing

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 3>for me right now? Like this sounds like he's I'm like, well,

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, hanging there, you guys are wonderful. You'll find

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 3>someone on your saf same wavelength. Like I don't share,

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 3>but you know, good luck to you.

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 2>And then I was like out check.

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 3>But as I'm saying this, I'm like, man, Like, you know,

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.399
<v Speaker 3>I just just could tell I had a vibe with him.

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 3>But I was just kind of like whatever, he started

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:04.839
<v Speaker 3>following me, I started following him. I'm watching the show

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 3>as the week's progress, and the finale last year, they

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 3>go on a date with this woman, this lovely woman,

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 3>to do this painting thing and have some wine, and

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 3>the woman's kind of being really quiet and awkward. And

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm watching with my friend and I'm like, why is

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 3>she being so quiet? Like if I was there, we'd

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 3>be having wine, we'd be painting at the best time.

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 3>And I just kind of had this epiphany. I was like, well,

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:28.240
<v Speaker 3>am I being close minded here? Like what could I be?

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Like who they're looking for? Like what you know what

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 3>am I afraid of?

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Here?

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 3>What am I like so against? And I'm like, this

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 3>could be everything I didn't always everything I didn't know

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 3>I always wanted in a way, And so I was like,

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what. It was a couple weeks later later,

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 3>but I was like, I'm just gonna write them back

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 3>just you know, maybe they found somebody. Maybe I'm just

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna just talk to them. So I slipped back into

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 3>his DMS, and then then we all started talking and

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 3>it was just like magic, just.

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 2>So there's no jealousy at all. It's like he's starting

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>to like you more or vice versa, or I mean

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 2>there's not you don't have any of jealousy and any

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 2>of y'all's bones. No, I don't don't.

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not like I said, I used to be

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 3>very jealous person. But that was like, cause it's it's

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 3>such a different dynamic when you're dating in monogamy and

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:15.240
<v Speaker 3>in that sense, like we're all so close in friends

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 3>and we talk about everything. The way they communicate, that's

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 3>what I what I saw. I was like, that's what's

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 3>missing in my life with it that level of communication

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 3>and honesty and openness in a relationship. If everybody communicated

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 3>the way they did, there would be this is a place,

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 3>would be a better world. And so I was like,

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 3>I want in on this. And it's been a hard struggle.

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 3>It it's not easy, but I'm looking forward to hopefully progressing,

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:37.959
<v Speaker 3>you know, with them.

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 10>It's like you did in monogamy.

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 8>You can kind of hide, right because you can have

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 8>I mean, people have whole other relationships outside as we know,

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 8>right in monogamy, but like I enjoy the pressure, I

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 8>can't hide, like I have to be vulnerable. And by

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.839
<v Speaker 8>the way, in context to what makes her specifically her

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.919
<v Speaker 8>and same as her, so she has her own way

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 8>that she communicates how we communicate.

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 10>She has a different way.

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 8>I can't like copy this love plan atop either of

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 8>these women and make, you know, expect it to work.

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 8>I have to be up front. I have to be claire,

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 8>I have to be concise. But I don't understand. We

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 8>have to talk about it. So regardless of the challenges

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 8>and how hard it's been, like we just we own it,

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 8>like we just cut this gets straight to it, like

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 8>let's get to the business.

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 10>And so there's no space for jealousy.

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, why would you want two women though, I

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 2>mean I'm enough wife for him.

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 4>Like learning how to communicate with two different ones.

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 2>God, I'm like it's impossible for yeah, it's like that's

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, jez Louise.

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I just again, I love the pressure. I love

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 10>that it makes.

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Me better, Like I have to do you want another one?

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Like how many? How many do you want?

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there's no magic number, there's not a goal, right,

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 8>and quite frankly, it's up to them, right, So if

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 8>Vanessa actually comes home when we make this work and

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.479
<v Speaker 8>it's like it is what it is, what you're moving

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 8>on that path, then it's up to them, you know.

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I mean, I get that, but

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, like, man, you're like reaping every

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>single benefit. See that's what That's what most people think,

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 2>where I'm just like, he's just the guy that like

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 2>he's like yeah, but what else? Well yeah, but what

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 2>guy doesn't want that? But have different partners and have sex?

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I know'd on me wanted to, you know, like come on,

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.399
<v Speaker 2>it's like what but for now you do open? Sorry,

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 2>but like now you get to be like open about it,

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 3>But I used to think the same thing because I've

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 3>seen the Sister Wife shows on I'm like, okay, that's

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 3>for them, Okay, But then I'm like, well, I've been

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 3>looking at this all wrong. Like on paper, yes, it

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 3>looks like the guy has everything, but honestly, I think

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Ashley and I get more out of it than Dimitris.

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I kind him bad for him, like you know,

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 3>but you'll see if the show progresses hopefully and as

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 3>if we progress that it's you know, there's just something

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 3>about you'll just have to see. I think actually I

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:54.879
<v Speaker 3>get more out of it than him.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Please. The second season of Seeking Sister Wives airs every

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.879
<v Speaker 4>Sunday on t l C at ten pm Central. What

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 4>can our listeners.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 2>PM Eastern specific look at? I have Eastern time? Yeah?

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:17.439
<v Speaker 4>Well who put ten? Yeah? Where without women in my life?

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 4>Right here? So ten?

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>So you guys have to watch? What can we Vanessa

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>is gonna What can we expect?

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 4>What can we expect in the second season moving forward?

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 4>What can everyone expect to see? Anything? Anything?

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to watch because I really like you and

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm warming up to you, to you, Dmitri, and I

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 2>can hear all You're just like, I bow down to you. Miss,

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>so thank you so much. You guys for coming on

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 2>the show.

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. That was who wants to start?

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:00.800
<v Speaker 4>Clearly you probably do.

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I'll wait. I'd like to hear what you like.

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I wrote some notes, Sarah.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I did because what I really can knock it over

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 1>because I'm so competitive that I know you are too.

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Who's better in the bedroom? Honestly, I just wanted to

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 1>be like, all right, ladies, like, how are you keeping

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it spicy?

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Like it's competition?

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Essentially he's sleeping with both.

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 4>I see why, especially in this kind of are you

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 4>taking your wedding ring off?

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 2>You literally just took your wedding.

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 4>Ring off all I hand sanitizer than under my ring

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 4>and anyways, I can see why in polygamy, when the

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 4>is a single male and multiple female, I can see

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 4>why women on the outside would just think of it as, oh,

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 4>it's just all about the sex. I see that. That's

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 4>how our society kind of thinks about it. Just hearing

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 4>them talk, I can see I don't personally believe this.

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I can see why maybe there's more of a some

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 4>more of a it's more to it than just sex.

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 4>I can I get. That's all I don't know how

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 4>to explain it. I can just see how they have

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 4>like an understanding and where it's more than just that.

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Didn't you think that.

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:18.959
<v Speaker 1>As Ashley was like way more like calm and de mirror.

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I almost kind of felt like she was like and

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>then Vanessa was like kind of being like, yeah, it's hard,

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 1>it's but I felt like I was getting like.

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 4>Vanessa very she's Vanessa's new to.

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 2>It herself, very comfortable, very you know, that's just but

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like.

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 1>She didn't step off once, Like she didn't even say

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>one like thing that was like.

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because they've been doing it for nine ten years,

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 4>but like there's.

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>A lot of things people have been doing for nine

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 1>or ten years that are still weak, Like.

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you can tell that she's that's just her thing,

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 2>that that's you know, she's she's comfortable to never.

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Want someone else, to never have temptation to never Yeah,

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that's a little because.

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.439
<v Speaker 4>It's for them. It's it's even though they did and say,

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 4>excuse me, it was anything religious, it's still a spiritual

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 4>belief of like what they think the family dynamic is.

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 4>So it's just like if you tell a Mormon or

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 4>a Christian or whatever that something about their religion they're

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 4>not Just because it might not make sense to other

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 4>people doesn't mean like that's just what they believe in.

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 4>So if polygamy is what they believe in, that's what

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 4>they choose to believe, then they're okay with that.

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 2>What do you believe in, Michael, monogamy?

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Really? Question?

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 6>Mark, Mark, Mark, I.

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 4>Just turned my mic off.

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I just think there's always a favorite, Like, there's always

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 1>a favorite, no matter what.

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 9>Ways, when you guys walked out for a second, Mark

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 9>and I were talking about Big Love. The first wife

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 9>is always in like what I call pole position. She

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.399
<v Speaker 9>always has like a little more Jews, a little bit

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 9>more bossise.

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.919
<v Speaker 5>She's the boss. What you guys need to watch Big Love?

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 1>And then I come back to me, I feel like

0:44:58.320 --> 0:44:59.240
<v Speaker 1>there's always a favorite.

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 2>So back on, Michael, why are you mad at me?

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, that comment was a little wait. I believe

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 4>in monogamy, and you're like really.

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, really, come on, well come on if you really

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 2>believed in.

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 4>So I can never say. I can never say the

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 4>rest of my life, I believe in monogamy.

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I was making a joke.

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Jokes to an a certain extent. That was not a joke.

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes it was.

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:30.399
<v Speaker 3>I left.

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, she said before this was obviously going to be

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 1>really triggering for her, right.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 4>But the jabs, the jabs, like, come on, I'm just saying, like,

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 4>we can we like I want to be able to

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 4>talk about this stuff and not feel like I can't

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 4>say anything without being being jabbed every time. That's all

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying.

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry that I see that, and I'm sorry that

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 4>for both of you, and I'm sorry that it's triggering,

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 4>and I apologize that you're upset and it's triggering for you.

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I jabb do you. I didn't mean to jab.

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I was making a joke, but is very triggering when

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 2>you say that that's what you believe in, but yet

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:08.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't live that.

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 4>I do live that.

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 2>You didn't live that, Okay, then that's different.

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 4>Okay, saying I don't live that and I didn't live

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 4>that is totally different. Okay, currently presently, for the last

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 4>two and a half years, I live that.

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sounds good.

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 9>Sometimes, Michael, I'm just gonna throw one thing in there.

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 9>A humor or sarcasm can be a way of healing.

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I know that so sometimes, but it's also can

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 4>be your way of hiding feelings behind something.

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, my feeling is I'm like, well, don't say that.

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 4>What would you rather say? What do you believe in? Michael?

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 4>I believe that.

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I was a piece of No I would have said, like,

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.280
<v Speaker 2>I know you might not believe it's because of my past,

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 2>but I believe it. You know, it's just a triggering situation.

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 2>But I would like to say, though, wouldn't it be

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 2>easier just to have done that instead? Like I mean,

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 2>is something where you could and you.

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:04.799
<v Speaker 4>Could do that because I didn't know we were talking

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 4>about us. I thought we were talking about the people

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 4>in here, and you just asked me a question, what

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 4>do you believe in? My personal belief is monogamy? Right, Yes,

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 4>I didn't live by that, right, So that's just triggering.

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 4>I understand that.

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 5>I believe you, Michael, I believe you.

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 4>I believe me.

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I believe you too.

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, everyone looked at me.

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm just staying silent in the corner. But like, oh,

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 5>I think is sing.

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 9>I think it's interesting and I think that, like I

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 9>respect you guys so much for being willing and open

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 9>and be open like that, and yes, we're going to

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 9>have you know, difficult interviews like that where it does

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 9>trigger and then it becomes so interesting and.

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Janna's so open, like she's so.

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 9>You know, letting it out.

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that it was a joke, but there was

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:56.760
<v Speaker 1>like it was your way of being funny but also hurting.

0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 1>And he gets that because I'm the same way I

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>make jokes and I'm uncomfortable. Yeah, but it obviously hurt.

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:03.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeh.

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm sorry that you were triggered, okay, and that

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 4>these past feelings came up for you, and I can

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 4>understand why they would.

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm shutting down. No.

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Now i feel like I'm like in preschool and I'm like, okay,

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:17.359
<v Speaker 1>you apologize.

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Now, you apologize. I did apologize. I said, I'm sorry.

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's her.

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Now make eye contact with them.

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 5>My question is like, what happens now?

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 9>Because I like them, you know, my heart is breaking

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 9>a little bit for both of you, because Janna's emotional

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 9>and Michael's emotional and.

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 5>It's so raw. So what happens now?

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 9>Is this where we go sideways and then like you guys,

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 9>hold on to it. Is there any way to like

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 9>talk a little bit more and then really let go

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 9>and be okay when.

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:47.359
<v Speaker 2>You walk out of the room, Well, how much time

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:51.320
<v Speaker 2>do we have whatever you met? No, I just again,

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I just when you say that that's what you believe

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 2>and then you didn't do it, that's just very triggering.

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 4>What would you, okay, calmly and realistically, what would you

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 4>rather me say? And now? Moving forward? In situations like that,

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 4>is it something where.

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 2>You acknowledge the past and the pain?

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:07.320
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I think how much longer is he gonna have to

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge the past in the pain? That was my next question, like, like,

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, obviously, come on, but you know, for a

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit longer you what will make you feel better?

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe for a long time?

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 8>I think so, yeah, And I think that's okay, and

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:27.799
<v Speaker 8>that's okay. And I think that you both know that

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 8>and that's okay, right, and I and I do I agree,

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 8>I do know that, and I think that is okay.

0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 8>There are there some instances where I would like to

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 8>just when we're talking about someone or something else where

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.360
<v Speaker 8>I would like to just say what I believe in

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 8>without having to go into a backstory of hey, I'm sorry,

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 8>blah blah blah, blah, But this is my opinion on

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 8>something like at times, am I going to want to

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 8>be able to do that?

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 4>Sure? Absolutely? Maybe with this I should have been more

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 4>conscious of it being so triggering and acknowledged that, so

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 4>I apologize sincerely. I do.

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, I'm sorry that I made a joke trigger

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 2>that was a little harsh Sarah's class.

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.360
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think I think neither of you needs to

0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 9>apologize for how you both felt.

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 5>Do you know what I mean?

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 9>Like the joke maybe whatever you can apoloize for that,

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 9>Michael can apologize for, like maybe not staying more calm

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 9>or centered from the joke, but like what you both

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 9>feel is so real, And I acknowledge your emotions here

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 9>and you both deserve to have them.

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 10>And I do believe Mike Well.

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 8>I believe that he currently is current mode is one

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 8>hundred percent in on monogamy.

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 10>I don't believe in wance. A cheater always a cheater.

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 10>I think we can grow from our mistakes.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Mark Wow, I agree.

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that too.

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 5>We all agree on some.

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Evolution.

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 5>What is it? I don't know.

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:54.720
<v Speaker 2>We're growing, We're growing, We're growing.

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:57.759
<v Speaker 9>Nothing feels more appropriate right now, than a commercial.

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Speaker 5>Wow, thank god?

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 4>All right, Mark, can you read couples too far? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>This is light in the mood I think From Haley.

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<v Speaker 8>This is an email sent to Jenna Kramer at iHeartMedia

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:20.839
<v Speaker 8>dot com. What are your thoughts on couples who don't

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 8>fart in front of each other or talk about their

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.719
<v Speaker 8>bathroom time? I think that it's weird. Our friends are

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:27.880
<v Speaker 8>getting married and her soon to be a husband has

0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 8>never farted in front of her. He's never, he never has.

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:33.319
<v Speaker 8>I get trying to keep some mystery and trying to

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.840
<v Speaker 8>impress the other person. But going through life and always

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 8>holding your farts and not ever truly relaxing sounds not

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 8>so fun.

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 2>That's me has tie fight. Wait, you've never farted in

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 2>front of time?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me tell you something really funny. No, I

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>mean he's had a little slip ups, but I just

0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>like die laughing and then like we don't, like I

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>can't focus on anything for the rest of the day.

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>But literally four years in four years in we're in

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 1>New York, every time I had to go to the

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 1>bathroom or do anything, I was running downstairs to Starbucks.

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>He literally thought I was having an affair because I

0:51:58.880 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'll be right back.

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I was going to I was like, not happening.

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I've never been I never.

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:06.399
<v Speaker 4>Went in a public restroom. Oh, I was a fact that.

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I was doing loops.

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:08.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm running like up.

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Where are you serious that you've never farted in front

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:13.800
<v Speaker 2>of him or took a poopy in the bathroom.

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, things are getting complicated now that we lived together.

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Those people at the Stars, we ever heard you fart?

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, don't let Janet fool you. It's it's

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 4>drew and far between with her. She just like went

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:31.399
<v Speaker 4>out the other day. She no, no, she was seeing

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:32.720
<v Speaker 4>it right behind me at the desk.

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Thought it was going to be silent.

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:38.439
<v Speaker 4>I was just like she was holding Jays and she's

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 4>like Jays.

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, okay, I thought I was going to

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 2>be silent. Remember the first time I fired in front

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:44.920
<v Speaker 2>of you.

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 4>First time she farted, we were in a hotel. Who

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 4>knows what city I was.

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 2>I think we were in Texas.

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and she far the same thing. She thought it

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 4>was gonna be silent. It was the first time I

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:56.359
<v Speaker 4>heard her fart. When we started dating. I had it

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 4>on camera and I videoed. I was video she was

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:00.760
<v Speaker 4>like hiding herself off in the corner.

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.959
<v Speaker 2>Like I thought, yeah, because he the way he looked

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:07.800
<v Speaker 2>at me, I was just like I read hid in

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 2>the corner.

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I had a room in college who literally thought was

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 1>their thing. They would sit on top of each other

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and fart on each other, and that was not happening.

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Now this guy, I mean, he farts all the time now.

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 2>But that stings.

0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 4>But that's like for a guy, at least just for me.

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 4>When you get to that point of in a relationship,

0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 4>it's so like it's like, oh, it's like I made it,

0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, and thinking about dating all over again. If

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 4>you think about dating all over again, it's like I

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 4>gotta go through the whole process. No, I don't think

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 4>they like get to the point where I can fart

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 4>in front of her.

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 2>I just think I mean, if I farted in front

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 2>of you all the time, I mean, wouldn't you if

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:44.360
<v Speaker 2>that's not sexy, you know what? It would be gross?

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Like we have to And so sometimes I wish that

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:48.880
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't fart as much because I'm like, don't you

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 2>want me to be attracted to you?

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 4>And you walk in You know what's funny right now

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:56.799
<v Speaker 4>is that Joli knows the word fart. So I was

0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 4>changing her in the middle of the night. The other night,

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:00.839
<v Speaker 4>I took her diver off, but another one on. So

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:02.600
<v Speaker 4>she was naked from the waist down and she farted,

0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 4>and she goes, oops, I fart.

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:09.839
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't know how to add the eted. Oh, I fart,

0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 2>and so like IM far in front of her, so like,

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:12.959
<v Speaker 2>mommy fart.

0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 4>It's hilarious say that.

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:21.320
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so I do have one more email that it's fascinating.

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 8>All right, this one takes some real turns that I

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:25.600
<v Speaker 8>did not expects.

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Like a rude.

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 8>Lindsey says, I've been married to my husband for six

0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 8>years and we have a five and a half year

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:34.160
<v Speaker 8>old daughter, but I'm not sure I love him. I

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:37.720
<v Speaker 8>thought it might be because I like girls. My husband

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 8>and I decided to try a threesome with another woman.

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 8>They go, I have never really been about sex, and

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 8>to be honest, I enjoyed the threesome, but I still

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 8>felt like, eh, whatever, I never really want sex, and

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.239
<v Speaker 8>I'm I'm not sure I have ever been in love.

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 8>What if I'm not capable of loving someone? Is there

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:54.880
<v Speaker 8>something I can do? Should I divorce my husband and

0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:57.399
<v Speaker 8>leave my child in a separate household. Oh boy, there's

0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 8>a lot going on here.

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot. I'll start with the beginning. I feel

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 2>loveless marriage.

0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a good place to start, Sarah.

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I think loveless marriage is common. A lot of people

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:13.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe stay with their Why are you looking at me

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 2>like that? I'm sorry you, Mark and I are both

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 2>looking at you like that.

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 5>I am not.

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of friends who say that they've

0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:25.759
<v Speaker 2>fallen out of love with their spouse and that they

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 2>stay with them just for the kids.

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I hate that.

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow, you Mark, you're happy you love your wife. People

0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 2>falling in and.

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:36.399
<v Speaker 4>Too, But that.

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Makes me sad. I think people can go in and

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 2>out of love. Yea, And I think that's some of

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 2>my friends. I think have felt that, and they you know,

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 2>but they stay because they have kids and I, you know,

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I know, I've you know, so I can see her saying,

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:55.320
<v Speaker 2>but I've also loved my husband and you like sometimes

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:56.799
<v Speaker 2>what and I do? Yes?

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 1>While because didn't she say she doesn't like suck?

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, she never really wants it, she's never been in love.

0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:03.720
<v Speaker 8>She thought maybe women nah, like it doesn't sound.

0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Like I wonder it sounds like she's on like pills

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:08.520
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, depressed, like she doesn't.

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Have it's like she loves her like obviously.

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I would say, yeah, to get off. If you're on anything,

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I would talk to your doctor and get something a

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 2>little lighter that you can have more emotion.

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 4>I wonder, I wonder if she knows what her love

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:26.719
<v Speaker 4>languages are, just because language that could be interesting for

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 4>someone who like you said that. You guys are saying,

0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:32.359
<v Speaker 4>like she seems numb. We'll find out how you register love.

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if it's not him, then you don't want

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.320
<v Speaker 2>to stay in a loveless marriage forever. That's just no.

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 4>But if she educates herself on that and then tells

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 4>her husband, hey, this is how I receive love, give

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 4>it a time, Give it a time to for him

0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 4>to trial that and be like, if he's doing those

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 4>things and she still doesn't feel it, Mark is.

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Just like that was a very evolved response from.

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Jesus.

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:59.719
<v Speaker 4>Thank you. Yeah, maybe he does believe in monogamy after all.

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:02.279
<v Speaker 4>Who thought no?

0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 2>But that that is that is a very point, honey,

0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 2>That is a very very evolved therapeutic response. I bet

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:08.840
<v Speaker 2>if they talk to.

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Each other he'd probably be like, yeah, you know, I

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of get it. I can feel like you don't

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 1>love me, and.

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:15.840
<v Speaker 2>This is what I this is how I would like

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 2>to receive love sounds.

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:23.360
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0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 4>you know what we forgot to talk about?

0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 8>What do we forget to talk about using Mike's razor?

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 2>What is wrong with that?

0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:44.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's really funny about this though. I'm glad

0:57:44.400 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 4>you brought up here because yesterday you showered first I did,

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 4>and I was gonna ask you. I saw. I looked

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 4>in the shower and my razor it looked like it

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 4>was turning. It was turned a different way.

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:57.360
<v Speaker 4>I know you didn't because and I started. But what's crazy?

0:57:57.400 --> 0:57:59.280
<v Speaker 4>I almost brought this up to you. I started feeling

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 4>like anxious, like angry because it's something small. She didn't

0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 4>end up. I ended up seeing her razor that she

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 4>brought into the bathroom because it wasn't there before. But

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 4>like these razors are expensive, Like I I have a

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:15.160
<v Speaker 4>strategic amount of times that I use one razor because

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I shave my face. I shave my head

0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:18.439
<v Speaker 4>like a ball guy. We use it a lot, a lot.

0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 4>So to know that she might use that and use

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 4>it areas and I put it on my face, it really,

0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:26.400
<v Speaker 4>it really does give me anxiety, Like it really does

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 4>bother me.

0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Why does it bother you that I shave my huha

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and then you put it on your face.

0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm sorry because.

0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Inside it's just it's just there.

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 4>If you shave your legs, even if you shave your

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:40.720
<v Speaker 4>legs and then I shave.

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:43.200
<v Speaker 2>My legs are cleaner than your face, it's not.

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 4>It's just still it's still your skin and bacteria.

0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:51.480
<v Speaker 2>It's still those things. Just like I'm dirty, Okay, it's

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 2>very I just.

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 4>Like, just like I would like to use my towel,

0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 4>but yesterday I used my towel, so I had to

0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 4>use your towel.

0:58:57.120 --> 0:58:59.680
<v Speaker 2>When you get out of the shower, you're clean, Michael, I.

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 4>Still like use my towel. I'm sorry, it's just what

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 4>I like to I like to use my towel. I

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 4>like to use my razor. I like to use my tea.

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Are you I don't ever want to use your tooth brush.

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:14.160
<v Speaker 2>That's disgusting. That's like you you're getting like steak out

0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:15.920
<v Speaker 2>of your teeth. But when you get out of a shower,

0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:18.760
<v Speaker 2>when you get out of a shower, you are physically clean,

0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:20.440
<v Speaker 2>unless you don't wash your body with soap.

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 4>All right, just picture this picture. I use your towel

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:28.040
<v Speaker 4>and I'm clean. I'm wiping up my butt, cleaning everything,

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:30.160
<v Speaker 4>drying it all off. And guess what next time you,

0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:32.520
<v Speaker 4>Next time you shower, you take that same part of

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:34.840
<v Speaker 4>the towel. Little do you know, that's where my butt was,

0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 4>and you wipe it up. You're drying your face were

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 4>clean or not, that's a food for thought.

0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, if it's clean, I don't care. Okay, you make

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 2>me go down there anyway.

0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 4>So I got no in that game this season. I

0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:54.800
<v Speaker 4>don't know.

0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 2>We're done.

0:59:58.200 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 4>You're welcome.

1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god,