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Speaker 1: Swine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio.

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Speaker 2: Sarah's back. Last week it was just we.

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Speaker 3: Had too much fun.

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Speaker 2: It was too hot to handle, too hot to handle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we have a very hot show today too.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm staring at a picture of Nicole Williams. She's hot,

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Speaker 2: she is wants to move this paper away from you,

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Speaker 2: bib Sorry, she's a wag. Which, by the way, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to feel bad again. So remember how last week

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was judging. I felt bad for judging. Well,

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Speaker 2: I never watched Wags because I was just like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, these these professional athlete wives have so much problems,

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Speaker 2: like so many problems in their life that just I

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Speaker 2: don't know. But I'm excited to meet her.

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Speaker 1: Weren't you a professional athlete wife?

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Speaker 2: Am I like so confused looking at her?

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure I wasn't absolutely losing

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Speaker 1: my marbles because I haven't like I don't have a coffee,

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Speaker 1: but but I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, no, you know what I mean, I actually don't.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Sarah, Wait wait, I'm confused. Wait you

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Speaker 2: don't think that you're I'm so confused. Yes, I am

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Speaker 2: the wife of a football player. But for former. Yes, so,

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Speaker 2: but I just never like, when I saw the Wags,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, they're they look different than me.

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Speaker 2: I'm she just walked in. She looks different than me.

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Speaker 2: She's you know, so what is happening? He Nichol Williams.

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Speaker 2: So I basically just got called out.

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Speaker 1: She literally just tried to sit here and say, I

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Speaker 1: just like, can't you know, I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Like I felt like I couldn't relate to the to

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Speaker 2: the Wags because but then Sarah just goes, yeah, but

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Speaker 2: you're you're married.

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Speaker 1: A wag, a wag, you were whive and girlfriend of

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Speaker 1: sport you for.

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Speaker 2: But I just but again, you even saw the show

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Speaker 2: and you rolled your eyes. Don't mine now about what

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Speaker 2: wags the girls.

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Speaker 4: I'm not worried about that. I'm still suck on the

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Speaker 4: whole situation.

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Speaker 5: You don't consider him a pro.

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Speaker 4: I know at the end of our relationship was still playing,

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Speaker 4: but I still play.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, So, Okay, fine, I'm a wag, but

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Speaker 2: I just like, like what they like, own it, own it.

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Speaker 2: I'm a wag. Well, Larry doesn't play anymore. So I'm

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Speaker 2: a former your former Okay, I guess I just you

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Speaker 2: guys just seem like just so beautiful and and so

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Speaker 2: are Waggy looked in lately?

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Speaker 1: I know, I like, look at you. Oh she gave

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Speaker 1: birth like a minute ago too, Oh my god. And

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Speaker 1: he likes to tell everyone are you still on Wags?

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Speaker 1: No shows is done. We did three seasons and did

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Speaker 1: you have fun?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It was fun, it was good. It was a great experience.

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Speaker 2: How are the girls? See, I just feel like I

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Speaker 2: couldn't relate to those girls. Maybe that's why. But see,

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Speaker 2: you seem really sweet. So that's my whole point. Let

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Speaker 2: me just circle back around here. My whole point was

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Speaker 2: that last week I maybe had judged one of the

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Speaker 2: people we had on the show because she was dating.

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Speaker 2: She found her partner while he was in prison, so

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Speaker 2: so exactly, so you kind of have that that's weird,

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Speaker 2: so a little I was a little judgmental in the

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Speaker 2: very beginning, which is wrong. And so I said, I feel.

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Speaker 4: Bad because athletes, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Stop stop. What I said was, I'm gonna feel bad

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Speaker 2: because I also prejudged the Wags before I met you.

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Speaker 2: And I said, because I can't relate to a you

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Speaker 2: can't relate to a beautiful woman. Like, I literally can't

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Speaker 2: listen to you say that again. Well, I'm just and

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Speaker 2: maybe it's because, yes, I didn't meet my husband after

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Speaker 2: his professional career or on the outs of it. But

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Speaker 2: so when I saw the show, I just didn't relate

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Speaker 2: to it. And you guys looked all beautiful, and you

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Speaker 2: guys were really yelling and having all these problems, and like,

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Speaker 2: how hard can it really be?

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Speaker 1: You're married to a I would actually like to tell

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Speaker 1: you what could be her problem? How long did you

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Speaker 1: guys date before you got married?

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Speaker 2: Six years? Thank you? I'm with my boyfriend six years.

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Speaker 2: Right now, she's got to struggle and I give it

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Speaker 2: to her. So Nicole, maybe you can help my girlfriend

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Speaker 2: Sarah out. She gave him an ultimatum that said, she said,

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Speaker 2: if I don't have the ring by New Year's I'm gone.

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Speaker 2: It's what month is it here?

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Speaker 3: I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: You have to try, right, you got to like light

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Speaker 1: a fire, well if it were not ready, like I

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Speaker 1: can go full psycho, but I'm not ready to go full.

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Speaker 2: Psycho yet, right, So how did you get the ring?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 2: Did you wag out?

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 6: I was actually really patient, but until like the last

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Speaker 6: the last year, like the year he proposed was like

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Speaker 6: the year where he was like, oh god, she really

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Speaker 6: wants My thing was, I'm getting older. I want to

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Speaker 6: start a fan. I'm thirty five. Okay, me too, So

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Speaker 6: I wanted, oh my god, we could be friends.

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Speaker 2: See we have a lot in common already. Okay, same age.

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Speaker 6: So I was just like, I want to start a family.

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Speaker 6: I'm really old fashioned and I don't like things going

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Speaker 6: backwards on the same.

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Speaker 2: Right. It's crazy.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not I'm not having a baby. I'm not

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Speaker 6: doing any of that. Saying like we already lived together.

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Speaker 6: That's bad enough for me because I was like, I

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Speaker 6: want to do it all in order, so we live together.

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Speaker 2: That where are you from Toronto?

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Speaker 6: I was born in Newfoundland, so I'm a really small

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Speaker 2: Moved to Toronto at fourteen. I love Toronto. I think

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Speaker 2: I got okay, So okay, so you want to go

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Speaker 2: in order ahead? Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I was just like, this is just crazy, Like

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Speaker 6: we already lived together, we have our first house together,

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Speaker 6: we've been together for so long. Why are we not

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Speaker 6: even talking about marriage? But you want to talk about

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Speaker 6: kids us. All he wants to do is talk about children,

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, let's come on.

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Speaker 2: Let's go in order here.

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Speaker 6: And finally he actually proposed to me on an episode

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Speaker 6: of Wags and we got Yeah, we got married on

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Speaker 6: the season finale.

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Speaker 2: So I think that he was just waiting.

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Speaker 6: He's he's also he also likes everything to be like

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Speaker 6: very perfect, not necessarily in order, but when he has

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Speaker 6: So he didn't want to like give me, you know,

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Speaker 2: So he's like, I'm just gonna wait till she gives up.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Literally, that's where I'm not your way out. Honestly, That's

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Speaker 2: like the thing. Oh my god, did you guys? What

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Speaker 2: was I mean? Did you trust him the entire time?

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Speaker 2: So when Larry and I first met.

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Speaker 6: I was a little skeptical because he was an athlete,

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Speaker 6: and I've dated an athlete prior, which sport football, So

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Speaker 6: I was already like, we already tested that out. So

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Speaker 6: when I met him, obviously, you know he looks like

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Speaker 6: about two months for him to get me on a date.

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Speaker 6: Like we'd text and stuff, but I was like, I'm

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Speaker 6: newly single. I'm not going back down that road.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 6: They get the stereotype obviously, yes, but then there's also

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Speaker 6: something that tells you like, oh my god, he seems

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Speaker 2: He's like a mom is why always time out? Why

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Speaker 2: are you looking at me like that? You you were

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Speaker 2: the stereotype like so, and he's looking at me.

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Speaker 4: Last week. All right, let's keep it going, baby.

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Speaker 2: He's like looking at me like, see, we're not all

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Speaker 2: me that stereotypical mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: So we already have a wall up when it comes

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Speaker 6: to like any athlete, just because of what we see,

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Speaker 6: I did have that wall up, and it was like

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Speaker 2: Were almost wanting it to not work. Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is just not going to work.

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Speaker 6: And I was so against the whole athlete thing, and

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Speaker 6: So I gave him. I gave him a while before

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Speaker 6: So he wanted to like introduce me to his mom

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, maybe he is different.

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Speaker 6: He was raised, you know, by women, and he has

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Speaker 6: how women should be treated.

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Speaker 2: Start your ring. It's like blindly, Oh I saw it

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Speaker 4: My god, it.

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Speaker 6: Is so pretty. Do you how long if he hasn't married,

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Speaker 6: then we've been married. It'll be two years in May.

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Speaker 2: Have you guys started the baby making process not yet.

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Speaker 6: Actually, which is so weird because I thought when we

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Speaker 6: baby nouse? You know, everybody was like get married, get married,

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Speaker 6: and now they're like one of you have them babies,

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, it's been almost two years. So I

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Speaker 6: just think that it's all timing right now. Our careers are,

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Speaker 6: you know, Larry's very busy and I'm very busy, and

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Speaker 6: we're both traveling a lot, so it's just hard to

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Speaker 6: But I think we're getting more now into let's just

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Speaker 6: see what happens and let it all happen naturally. But

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Speaker 6: we're not really like planning it, so we'll see what.

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Speaker 6: You have a baiting suit line? Now?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: So what inspired you to make a bathing suit line?

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Speaker 6: So I've been modeling since I was like twelve years old,

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Speaker 6: so I was very heavy into fashion and then moving

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Speaker 6: seven years and then when I moved to LA's when

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Speaker 6: I met Larry, and then also when I moved here

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Speaker 2: The biggest issue? Jump right? And I just like to

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Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, So that's there's that. I love that. Well,

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Speaker 2: We can be friends for real.

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Speaker 6: And Larry just told me yesterday actually that a glass

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Speaker 2: So this next guest, guests, this says how do you

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Speaker 4: The next guests?

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Speaker 2: Okay, the next guests.

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Speaker 4: But it's like, as like we asked for risks.

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Speaker 2: I'm really our time saying risks because I'm like, it's

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Speaker 2: I might be a little quiet in this next interview.

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Speaker 2: Oh great, I'm super triggered.

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Speaker 5: Oh oh, I'm not. I want to know everything.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's I'm gonna be very I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: Well and speak on that, because it's interesting. When I

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Speaker 2: We're talking about sister wives.

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Speaker 4: Yes, one of the couples. Which one was it, but

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Speaker 5: Was this Dimitrian Ashley?

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Speaker 4: No, this was not Dmitrian Ashley. This is another couple.

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Speaker 2: They brought her on board as a wife.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: This was just like the teaser for this season. Well,

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Speaker 8: can you ex play the basics of this. This is

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Speaker 9: Right now, he's married to Ashley, but Vanessa is here,

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Speaker 9: and he is courting Vanessa to be the sister wife.

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Speaker 8: Right, but the actually sisters, they're just multiple because because legally,

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Speaker 8: polygamy is not legal in any state.

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Speaker 4: Right, But so there cannot be another Salt Lake you ta, No,

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Speaker 2: Well, then how do they have this TV show?

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Speaker 9: Did you all ever watch Big Love? No, it was

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Speaker 9: He had three wives and they each had different houses,

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Speaker 5: I guess you can arrest it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so they don't. They have a TV show. They

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm super confused. Just so I know where

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not kidding, I'm just a little confused.

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Speaker 1: So this man is married to all these women or

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Speaker 4: Married to one, he's married to Ashley. And then the

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Speaker 2: Where you stand on this, Michael, what's your stance on it?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't believe in polygamy?

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Speaker 2: Well I have a question for you.

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Speaker 2: They're basically just having an open affair, So you believe

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Speaker 2: in closed doors affairs. I'm obviously not anymore. But it's

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Speaker 4: It's like an open relationship because people are consensual. There's

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Speaker 2: Just being Devil's advocate and I'm being are you.

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Speaker 2: you're you don't agree with this, but you agree with

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Speaker 3: My heart is racing.

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Speaker 4: Agree with you.

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Speaker 2: That's because that's what you did. So I'm like, that's what.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I agreed with it, but we might

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Speaker 9: like a nice tone.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you guys, my heart is why are you staring

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Speaker 4: I'm just looking at you.

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Speaker 8: I'm just you're not using a nice tone with your husband.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, everybody whoa Okay?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Mark, but I just I get very upset.

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Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. I get it because

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Speaker 1: it is I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: I was just saying like, oh, I don't agree with this,

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Speaker 2: but I'm like, oh, but you agree on doing I'm sorry, Mark,

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Speaker 2: is this better? Tone?

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Speaker 5: You agree?

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Speaker 2: But you agree with having an affair on your wife?

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Speaker 2: That's better?

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Speaker 4: Thanks, Honny, You're welcome, sweetheart. So now here in the

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Speaker 4: studio we have Dimitri, Ashley, and Vanessa from Sister Wives

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Speaker 10: And it's actually Seeking Sister Wife.

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Speaker 4: Seeking Sister Wife. I'm sorry, that's another show. Good to know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, Dmitri, you are married to Ashley. How long

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Speaker 2: have you guys? Been married?

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Speaker 6: For?

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Speaker 2: Nine plus years?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Nine plus years? Okay? And Vanessa over there you are

502
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Speaker 2: wanting to marry her as well. Yeah, so you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to like, h educate, educate me because I am

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Speaker 2: married to my husband and I do not want another

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Speaker 2: female in our relationship ever.

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Speaker 4: Which no, just full disclosure. I did have an affair.

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Speaker 4: There's infidelity in our relationship that was two and a

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Speaker 4: half years ago with discovery and that we've recovered in

509
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Speaker 4: our marriage and relationship. So that's something that we've gone through.

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Speaker 4: So that added element to this whole situation that Janna

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Speaker 4: feels a little bit triggered because of the things that

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Speaker 4: we've been through in our personal relationship. So it's just

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Speaker 4: interesting to us just because of what we've been through.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so that is where forgive me the tone comes in.

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Speaker 4: It's not directed towards any of you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all, I'm just are you okay with us? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why you signed up for them?

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Speaker 11: I studied an anthropology, so I have a completely different outlook

519
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Speaker 11: on polygamy as a viable family dynamic.

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Speaker 2: It's not emotional for me.

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Speaker 11: It's like, I respect and value the communal, feminine centered

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Speaker 11: family unit. I feel like working with another woman cooperatively

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Speaker 11: together to raise a family and to create businesses, you know,

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Speaker 11: build a life together. It's just stronger in my mind,

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Speaker 11: and I've seen it, you know, in my academic studies,

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Speaker 11: and I wanted to recreate that for myself.

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Speaker 2: And do you guys have kids?

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Speaker 3: We do?

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Speaker 2: How many kids three, You have three kids, and how

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Speaker 2: are the kids around us? I mean, is do you

531
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Speaker 2: see it? Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, they love having an extra mommy, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, around they don't know any different children or when

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Speaker 8: they're in their native environment, they don't. They don't know,

535
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Speaker 8: like you don't know you're broken to people make fun

536
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Speaker 8: of you, you know what I mean. So it just

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Speaker 8: is like you don't have to explain or define monogamy.

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Speaker 8: You don't have to explain. I mean, you define in

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Speaker 8: the context everyone else may perceive you, but it's just

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Speaker 8: it just literally is.

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Speaker 11: And they're younger too, so six they news the oldest.

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Speaker 11: She's six, Nil's four, and then Kannadia is one. So

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Speaker 11: how do you go about finding Vanessa?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 2: What was what was that? Like, Hey, we're married, do

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Speaker 2: you want to join in on our marriage? Or how

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Speaker 2: did that conversation start? I'll answer that, Okay, take it away, Vanessa.

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Speaker 3: So kind of a longster, I'll try to keep it short.

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Speaker 3: Last year sometime I was on Twitter and I saw

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Speaker 3: this show Seeking Sister Wife trending pretty high, and I

551
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Speaker 3: was like, what is this. I've heard of Seeking or

552
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Speaker 3: regular sister wives, but you know, Seeking Sister Wives, and

553
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Speaker 3: people were talking about this other wife on the show,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, well, this show sounds juicy. Let

555
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Speaker 3: me check it out. This sounds nuts. So I started

556
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Speaker 3: watching it falls to you know, Mormon, white, traditional polygamist families,

557
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Speaker 3: and then I see Ashley Dimitri and I was like,

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Speaker 3: whoa polygamis can look like this? And they seem so

559
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Speaker 3: like cool and normal and you know, kind of like me.

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Speaker 3: But I was still kind of like, you know, polygamies

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Speaker 3: for like other people, because I get it, like, you know,

562
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Speaker 3: I for what have been cheated on in the past,

563
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Speaker 3: and it's the secrecy and the going behind the back

564
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Speaker 3: and everything. With this, it's all out in the open,

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Speaker 3: like she wants me here. And so anyways, I'm kind

566
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Speaker 3: of getting off track here. But when I started thinking

567
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Speaker 3: about it, I'm like, Okay, Like I love men exclusively,

568
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Speaker 3: but when I live with my friends that are girls,

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Speaker 3: it's so much fun, Like we have fun and everything.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, Okay, with this type of situation, I

571
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Speaker 3: could have an awesome husband and an awesome, you know,

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Speaker 3: best friend to live with who could share motherhood and

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Speaker 3: all that and have it all in one house.

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Speaker 2: So you guys, don't hook up them, no, Okay, no.

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Speaker 4: So there's so many questions. I'm trying to get them

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Speaker 4: all in order. How long? So you guys have been

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Speaker 4: married almost ten years? When did this? Has this been

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Speaker 4: from the beginning? You guys have kind of day been

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Speaker 4: polygamous day one? Yeah, since day zero? And then I mean, yes,

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Speaker 4: it is day zero. When I met her, I was like,

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Speaker 4: my name is Dmitri.

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Speaker 8: I'm a workaholic, I drool when I'm really tired, and

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Speaker 8: this is my vision version of the family unit, you

584
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Speaker 8: know what I mean. So I didn't want to waste time,

585
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Speaker 8: fat off the bone. Let's get straight to it. If

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Speaker 8: we're going to fail, it's fail fast for sure. Had

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Speaker 8: that and she didn't say no.

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Speaker 11: Okay, And again I didn't say no because it wasn't

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Speaker 11: new for me. It was something that I had heard

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Speaker 11: of before, and I just thought it was the universe's

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Speaker 11: way of playing a little joke, getting me prepared for

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Speaker 11: this new life that I was going to be living.

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Speaker 4: So have you guys had a sister wife before in

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Speaker 4: y'all's relationship or is this the first time? Like you're

595
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Speaker 4: really are you just seeking a new one? Or have

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Speaker 4: you guys had one in the past?

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Speaker 11: I mean We've dated quite a bit over the years.

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Speaker 11: We had a lot of growing to do, a lot

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Speaker 11: of mistakes to make figuring, you know, things out more the.

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Speaker 10: Mistakes on my side, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: It's just you know, this is this thing where you

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Speaker 8: have to buifur kate like the immaturity of being a guy,

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Speaker 8: right versus like a functioning adult relationship.

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Speaker 1: For sure, it's going to be my question, how did

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Speaker 1: you look at it? Not as cheating or you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like how were you like this? Like

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Speaker 1: do you have other partners or is it just him?

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Speaker 3: And then how is that? I would be like, well, wait,

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Speaker 3: well I.

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Speaker 8: Don't just come home with a chick and say like,

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Speaker 8: well here you go, like just make it work like

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Speaker 8: it's a consensus.

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Speaker 11: Well initially he was like you fine, And that was

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Speaker 11: hard because you know, the shows weren't out yet. People

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Speaker 11: weren't aware of this even being a real thing outside

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Speaker 11: of a book. So it was like you find her.

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Speaker 11: And then I was like, well, I don't know how

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Speaker 11: to talk to girls, Like how do I.

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Speaker 8: You know, because women know women better than men. We

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Speaker 8: just doing our threshold and requirements are this big. Doesn't

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Speaker 8: take a lot for a man, just just be alive

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Speaker 8: and we're happy, you know what I mean. And I'm

623
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Speaker 8: being consertious, but like, and.

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Speaker 11: I've had I've had women that were more interested in me,

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Speaker 11: and I'm like, well, that's not gonna work.

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Speaker 1: And that's how I feel like it would be so

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Speaker 1: hard to be like I.

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Speaker 11: Just yeah, yeah, I mean and then or if the

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Speaker 11: woman was more interested in him, yeah, because I'm.

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Speaker 1: Super jealous, so I would go absolutely.

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Speaker 5: Well, I could do too, And so how did you like? Well?

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Speaker 3: So here here it is for me. And this is

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Speaker 3: a testament to Ashley because coming in as this second woman,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of like, oh easy, you know, she built

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Speaker 3: this whole family and life and children. I can't imagine

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Speaker 3: being the first wife and doing that and then being

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Speaker 3: open arms to me. So that's how gracious she is.

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Speaker 3: I'm just kind of like, oh, here I am paying

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Speaker 3: love me kids, Hey, guys, you know it's it's been

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Speaker 3: so much easier for me.

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Speaker 2: So are you gonna have kids with Dmitri? I mean

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Speaker 2: I would love to and you would be okay with

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Speaker 2: that absolutely? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Did the TV element make this way easier? I would

646
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Speaker 9: think that a little bit of fame, a little bit

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Speaker 9: of notoriety. I'm sure you've got haters, but like having

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Speaker 9: more public did that make it easier.

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Speaker 11: You mean to find easier to find or easier to.

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Speaker 9: Sort of live in a society that maybe isn't as

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Speaker 9: accepting of this.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think it's it's probably if you try affect

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Speaker 8: it out. Everyone's got their different perspective. For me, it

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Speaker 8: never matted it just because I just it just is

655
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Speaker 8: like I'm going to live this way regardless. I don't

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Speaker 8: need your approval, I don't need your your confirmation like

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00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 8: this is what's going to happen. So no, it didn't

658
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 8: make it. It didn't change anything in per se. It

659
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 8: brought more awareness to it, and quite frankly, probably more scrutiny.

660
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 8: So I have to not really defend but educate. If

661
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 8: people really want to understand why and what, then it's

662
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 8: more that conversation has been brought forward.

663
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 4: What tells you to have that mindset of this is

664
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: what a family dynamic looks like for you guys. I

665
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: actually you said you studied anthropology and everything, But for Dimitri, like,

666
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: what was it? Was it your upbringing? Was it religious beliefs?

667
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: Is it just something you realized on your own.

668
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, something I've realized on my own, not religious solve

669
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 8: to spiritual. There's him her, They out there for sure

670
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 8: doing it. For me, it's about feminine centricity. I feel

671
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 8: like the the ability to take care and labor this

672
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 8: real world is the man is the job of a man,

673
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. I think women should be

674
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 8: able to express their creative freedom. So if I can

675
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 8: take care of you know, work and bills and all

676
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 8: that good jazz, they can birth epic things. And that

677
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 8: could be in a form of children, of course, or

678
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 8: it could be in the context of companies or projects

679
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 8: or just passion, projects.

680
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 10: Could be whatever.

681
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: What if she wanted to have another man?

682
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I mean, and she can speak to this

683
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 8: as well, right for us? I mean that changes the dynamic.

684
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 8: This is how this is well because what we're doing

685
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 8: is called polygamy or polygyny polygyny specific specifically, if we

686
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 8: have another man, it would change to polyandry or polyamory,

687
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 8: so they're different relational constructs. We agreed to and understood

688
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 8: that we're going to do polygamy, so one masculine energy,

689
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 8: multiple feminine energies, and if that changes, that's fine. We'll

690
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 8: probably cry and scream and just part of ways that's

691
00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 8: not what we initially.

692
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: But if she just wants to, like because if you

693
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: get to sleep with two women, if she wants to

694
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: go out and have a you know, screw another dude,

695
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: why why is that a problem that she's not going

696
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: to mess up that scenario. But if I mean, if

697
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: you're getting it, I feel like that's a little Well.

698
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 11: It depends on the relationship, as Deme truth saying, like,

699
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 11: for our relationship specifically, we signed up for the feminine

700
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 11: aspect of it, and me personally, I'm not interested in

701
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 11: another guy. I believe that feminine energy builds and creates,

702
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 11: whereas masculine energy is destructive.

703
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: And that's why when you put a bunch of men

704
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: in a room, they usually toush it up.

705
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 5: You know.

706
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 11: It's like, so that's not what I'm into, and so

707
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 11: it just it wouldn't work for our family dynamic. That

708
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 11: does not mean that it's not possible for other people

709
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 11: to live that way.

710
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 8: It's just not you know, and it's not about parent

711
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 8: it's not about sexual parody either. It's not like, well,

712
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 8: you get to have sex with exce and so I

713
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 8: want sex with Why Like that's not the it's not

714
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 8: the measure to say, well, you get to have someone

715
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 8: so I could have some too, or if you don't,

716
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 8: there's a disparity.

717
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 10: Now, that's not you know, that's not how you are

718
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 10: in ours in our relationships.

719
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 11: Some people do measure that way. They're like everything needs

720
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 11: to be equal.

721
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 7: You know, yeah, like if you did a then I

722
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 7: get to do be What was the hardest I'm sure,

723
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 7: like you said, Charle and Err, throughout the last nine

724
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 7: ten years of y'all's relationship to figure this out and

725
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 7: to try to figure out the boundaries on what you

726
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 7: both need to make this successful.

727
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: What has been the hardest obstacle along with that that

728
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: has kind of repeated itself and kind of making this

729
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: a successful relationship between the three of you. I'm sure

730
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: there's more than one.

731
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 8: I mean, the hottest pot is from the man's perspective,

732
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 8: is getting past because so like we started off with

733
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 8: her trying to find the woman, then I would try

734
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 8: to find her, and then we I would be attracted

735
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 8: to the woman, and she's like no, diuicce, like this

736
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 8: is she does not fit, is not going to work.

737
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 8: Or again she might have an attraction, but you know,

738
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 8: a different type of attraction to the woman, and I'm like,

739
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 8: I'm that interested.

740
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 10: She drives me nuts.

741
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 8: So how do you reconcile you know, these wants and

742
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 8: desires into a single person and aggregate that in a

743
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 8: way that's gonna, you know, work for like, yes to come.

744
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 8: So I think to answer your question, the challenges from

745
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 8: me in particular were just being able to move and

746
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 8: lockstep with her, not move ahead of her. Again as

747
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 8: a guy, you you win? I mean again, we were competitive.

748
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 8: So like I'm trying to, you know, let you know

749
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 8: that you're good, you're taking care of I can pay

750
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 8: your bills and you know everything's taken you know. So

751
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 8: how do you do that without pre selling the woman

752
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 8: or getting her all jazzed up and she's not even

753
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 8: there yet?

754
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's definitely hard.

755
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 11: And I do think too, like knowing what your boundaries

756
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 11: are and what you'll accept and the things that will

757
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 11: make or break your relationship, I don't think you really

758
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 11: know those initially until you actually start trying.

759
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So that's why a lot of relationships have failed.

760
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: So what is Vanessa?

761
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: What is y'all status?

762
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: Right now? We're dating, so you're just dating and you guys,

763
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: but you two lived together or no, YouTube lived together?

764
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: Yes?

765
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: Do you just like live next door?

766
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: Are you down the street or do you live in

767
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: the house as well?

768
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: I am visiting?

769
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, I mean do you want to get

770
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: married to her?

771
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

772
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: Okay, isn't that illegal?

773
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 8: Well, so we don't believe in state recognized marriage, Like

774
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 8: I don't need a piece of paper to ratify my marriage, right,

775
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 8: her last name is mine. We got all the financial

776
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 8: instruments and legal instruments in place that I expire and

777
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 8: all the good jazz.

778
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 10: That's no different.

779
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: Well how does that keep Vanessa safe?

780
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: Then?

781
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: Like, let's say, like crap goes down if you say

782
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 2: you're married to her, but then hey, nothing's on paper.

783
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: You can't really take that to the court.

784
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 8: Well you can, so then you leverage those fiscal and

785
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 8: legal instruments. So again, she changed her last name, she

786
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 8: can have her own insurance policy, she's got I mean,

787
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 8: she's got her account. Like there's literally your marriage certificate

788
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 8: just makes it the paper trail shorter into a single document.

789
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 8: I have to have a couple more documents. But she

790
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 8: has the same exact power you would.

791
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: So you guys, couldn't go to jail for what you're

792
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: doing then because.

793
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 10: We're not legally married.

794
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 8: That's big of me and no ca Okay, So for

795
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 8: since we've been Claire since day zero, like we're not

796
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 8: legally married, but again she has my legal last name.

797
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: Gotcha.

798
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 10: You can do whatever you want.

799
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that's how we.

800
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 4: Protect ourselves for sure.

801
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 10: Legally.

802
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 2: What is your parents saying, Vanessa?

803
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: So unfortunately my father passed away from ten years ago.

804
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: That's okay. But so my first trip to go out

805
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: to see them, my mom and stepmom took me out

806
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 3: to dinner for my birthday, and so I grew up

807
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 3: with my mom and stepmom being extremely close. My stepmom

808
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: is an amazing woman, So I always felt like I

809
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 3: had like sister wives mothers, you know. So when I

810
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: told them, I wasn't gonna tell. At first, I was like,

811
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go visit them, but it could be nothing,

812
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 3: so I won't. But then I was like, you know,

813
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: I'll just tell them. Yeah, And they're so lovely and

814
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: open minded. They're both hippies and they're like, this is wonderful,

815
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: this is a great La.

816
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 11: La.

817
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: Where are you from?

818
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: I'm born in New Jersey but grew up in Seattle.

819
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: Wow, okay, yeah, and what were you looking for going

820
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 4: into this? Did you have like a clear mindset on

821
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: what why you wanted to get into this kind of

822
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 4: relationship and what was it? And Dmitri and Ashley that's like, okay,

823
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: I had this could work with them.

824
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you know, like I was saying earlier, before

825
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: I got track, I watched the show and then I

826
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: was like, about four episodes in, I was like, they

827
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 3: community hate so well, they're so lovely, Like something's got

828
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: to be off here. Let me do some investigating. And

829
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 3: I found some Dmitri's Instagram and so I'm like looking

830
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: through his photos and I'm like, okay, this is his

831
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: real wife and children and liking some photos. He said,

832
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: I like thirty photos. I like like five phots. I

833
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 3: would never do that, not that extra.

834
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: So then.

835
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: The next day he had written on one of my

836
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 3: pictures and we started talking and then he direct messaged

837
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: me and kind and he's like, you know, because I

838
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I love you and Ashley I'm a fan,

839
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: and he's like, you know, thank you so much for

840
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: the kind words. He's like, there's been a lot of

841
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: backlash for the show. He's like, I told Ashley, we

842
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 3: find our forever wife after this, she'll be a keeper.

843
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: So at that point, I was like, is he fishing

844
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: for me right now? Like this sounds like he's I'm like, well,

845
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: you know, hanging there, you guys are wonderful. You'll find

846
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: someone on your saf same wavelength. Like I don't share,

847
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: but you know, good luck to you.

848
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: And then I was like out check.

849
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: But as I'm saying this, I'm like, man, Like, you know,

850
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 3: I just just could tell I had a vibe with him.

851
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: But I was just kind of like whatever, he started

852
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 3: following me, I started following him. I'm watching the show

853
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: as the week's progress, and the finale last year, they

854
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 3: go on a date with this woman, this lovely woman,

855
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: to do this painting thing and have some wine, and

856
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: the woman's kind of being really quiet and awkward. And

857
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: I'm watching with my friend and I'm like, why is

858
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: she being so quiet? Like if I was there, we'd

859
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: be having wine, we'd be painting at the best time.

860
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: And I just kind of had this epiphany. I was like, well,

861
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 3: am I being close minded here? Like what could I be?

862
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: Like who they're looking for? Like what you know what

863
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: am I afraid of?

864
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: Here?

865
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: What am I like so against? And I'm like, this

866
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: could be everything I didn't always everything I didn't know

867
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: I always wanted in a way, And so I was like,

868
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: you know what. It was a couple weeks later later,

869
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: but I was like, I'm just gonna write them back

870
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: just you know, maybe they found somebody. Maybe I'm just

871
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: gonna just talk to them. So I slipped back into

872
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: his DMS, and then then we all started talking and

873
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: it was just like magic, just.

874
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: So there's no jealousy at all. It's like he's starting

875
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: to like you more or vice versa, or I mean

876
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: there's not you don't have any of jealousy and any

877
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: of y'all's bones. No, I don't don't.

878
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like I said, I used to be

879
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: very jealous person. But that was like, cause it's it's

880
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: such a different dynamic when you're dating in monogamy and

881
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 3: in that sense, like we're all so close in friends

882
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: and we talk about everything. The way they communicate, that's

883
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: what I what I saw. I was like, that's what's

884
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: missing in my life with it that level of communication

885
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: and honesty and openness in a relationship. If everybody communicated

886
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: the way they did, there would be this is a place,

887
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: would be a better world. And so I was like,

888
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: I want in on this. And it's been a hard struggle.

889
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: It it's not easy, but I'm looking forward to hopefully progressing,

890
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 3: you know, with them.

891
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 10: It's like you did in monogamy.

892
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 8: You can kind of hide, right because you can have

893
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 8: I mean, people have whole other relationships outside as we know,

894
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 8: right in monogamy, but like I enjoy the pressure, I

895
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 8: can't hide, like I have to be vulnerable. And by

896
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 8: the way, in context to what makes her specifically her

897
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 8: and same as her, so she has her own way

898
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 8: that she communicates how we communicate.

899
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 10: She has a different way.

900
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 8: I can't like copy this love plan atop either of

901
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 8: these women and make, you know, expect it to work.

902
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 8: I have to be up front. I have to be claire,

903
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 8: I have to be concise. But I don't understand. We

904
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 8: have to talk about it. So regardless of the challenges

905
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 8: and how hard it's been, like we just we own it,

906
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 8: like we just cut this gets straight to it, like

907
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 8: let's get to the business.

908
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 10: And so there's no space for jealousy.

909
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: I mean, why would you want two women though, I

910
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: mean I'm enough wife for him.

911
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: Like learning how to communicate with two different ones.

912
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: God, I'm like it's impossible for yeah, it's like that's

913
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: I mean, jez Louise.

914
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just again, I love the pressure. I love

915
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 10: that it makes.

916
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: Me better, Like I have to do you want another one?

917
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: Like how many? How many do you want?

918
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no magic number, there's not a goal, right,

919
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 8: and quite frankly, it's up to them, right, So if

920
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 8: Vanessa actually comes home when we make this work and

921
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 8: it's like it is what it is, what you're moving

922
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 8: on that path, then it's up to them, you know.

923
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I mean, I get that, but

924
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: at the same time, like, man, you're like reaping every

925
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: single benefit. See that's what That's what most people think,

926
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: where I'm just like, he's just the guy that like

927
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: he's like yeah, but what else? Well yeah, but what

928
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: guy doesn't want that? But have different partners and have sex?

929
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: I know'd on me wanted to, you know, like come on,

930
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 2: it's like what but for now you do open? Sorry,

931
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: but like now you get to be like open about it,

932
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: you know.

933
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: But I used to think the same thing because I've

934
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: seen the Sister Wife shows on I'm like, okay, that's

935
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: for them, Okay, But then I'm like, well, I've been

936
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: looking at this all wrong. Like on paper, yes, it

937
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: looks like the guy has everything, but honestly, I think

938
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: Ashley and I get more out of it than Dimitris.

939
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes I kind him bad for him, like you know,

940
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: but you'll see if the show progresses hopefully and as

941
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: if we progress that it's you know, there's just something

942
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: about you'll just have to see. I think actually I

943
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: get more out of it than him.

944
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: Well.

945
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: Please. The second season of Seeking Sister Wives airs every

946
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 4: Sunday on t l C at ten pm Central. What

947
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 4: can our listeners.

948
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: PM Eastern specific look at? I have Eastern time? Yeah?

949
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 4: Well who put ten? Yeah? Where without women in my life?

950
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 4: Right here? So ten?

951
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: So you guys have to watch? What can we Vanessa

952
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: is gonna What can we expect?

953
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: What can we expect in the second season moving forward?

954
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 4: What can everyone expect to see? Anything? Anything?

955
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 2: I'm going to watch because I really like you and

956
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: I'm warming up to you, to you, Dmitri, and I

957
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: can hear all You're just like, I bow down to you. Miss,

958
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: so thank you so much. You guys for coming on

959
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: the show.

960
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

961
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: Thank you. That was who wants to start?

962
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 4: Clearly you probably do.

963
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: No, No, I'll wait. I'd like to hear what you like.

964
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wrote some notes, Sarah.

965
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: I did because what I really can knock it over

966
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: because I'm so competitive that I know you are too.

967
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: Who's better in the bedroom? Honestly, I just wanted to

968
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: be like, all right, ladies, like, how are you keeping

969
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: it spicy?

970
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: Like it's competition?

971
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: Essentially he's sleeping with both.

972
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: I see why, especially in this kind of are you

973
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: taking your wedding ring off?

974
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: You literally just took your wedding.

975
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: Ring off all I hand sanitizer than under my ring

976
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 4: and anyways, I can see why in polygamy, when the

977
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: is a single male and multiple female, I can see

978
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: why women on the outside would just think of it as, oh,

979
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 4: it's just all about the sex. I see that. That's

980
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 4: how our society kind of thinks about it. Just hearing

981
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 4: them talk, I can see I don't personally believe this.

982
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 4: I can see why maybe there's more of a some

983
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 4: more of a it's more to it than just sex.

984
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 4: I can I get. That's all I don't know how

985
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: to explain it. I can just see how they have

986
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 4: like an understanding and where it's more than just that.

987
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: Didn't you think that.

988
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,959
Speaker 1: As Ashley was like way more like calm and de mirror.

989
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: I almost kind of felt like she was like and

990
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: then Vanessa was like kind of being like, yeah, it's hard,

991
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: it's but I felt like I was getting like.

992
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: Vanessa very she's Vanessa's new to.

993
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: It herself, very comfortable, very you know, that's just but

994
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: it's almost like.

995
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: She didn't step off once, Like she didn't even say

996
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: one like thing that was like.

997
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they've been doing it for nine ten years,

998
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 4: but like there's.

999
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: A lot of things people have been doing for nine

1000
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: or ten years that are still weak, Like.

1001
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can tell that she's that's just her thing,

1002
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: that that's you know, she's she's comfortable to never.

1003
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: Want someone else, to never have temptation to never Yeah,

1004
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: that's a little because.

1005
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 4: It's for them. It's it's even though they did and say,

1006
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: excuse me, it was anything religious, it's still a spiritual

1007
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: belief of like what they think the family dynamic is.

1008
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: So it's just like if you tell a Mormon or

1009
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 4: a Christian or whatever that something about their religion they're

1010
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: not Just because it might not make sense to other

1011
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 4: people doesn't mean like that's just what they believe in.

1012
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: So if polygamy is what they believe in, that's what

1013
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: they choose to believe, then they're okay with that.

1014
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: What do you believe in, Michael, monogamy?

1015
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: Oh?

1016
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: Really? Question?

1017
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 6: Mark, Mark, Mark, I.

1018
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: Just turned my mic off.

1019
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: I just think there's always a favorite, Like, there's always

1020
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: a favorite, no matter what.

1021
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 9: Ways, when you guys walked out for a second, Mark

1022
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 9: and I were talking about Big Love. The first wife

1023
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 9: is always in like what I call pole position. She

1024
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 9: always has like a little more Jews, a little bit

1025
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 9: more bossise.

1026
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 5: She's the boss. What you guys need to watch Big Love?

1027
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: And then I come back to me, I feel like

1028
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: there's always a favorite.

1029
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: So back on, Michael, why are you mad at me?

1030
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 4: Oh no, that comment was a little wait. I believe

1031
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: in monogamy, and you're like really.

1032
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, come on, well come on if you really

1033
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: believed in.

1034
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 4: So I can never say. I can never say the

1035
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 4: rest of my life, I believe in monogamy.

1036
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: Okay. I was making a joke.

1037
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 4: Jokes to an a certain extent. That was not a joke.

1038
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: Well, yes it was.

1039
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 3: I left.

1040
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: Well, she said before this was obviously going to be

1041
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: really triggering for her, right.

1042
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 4: But the jabs, the jabs, like, come on, I'm just saying, like,

1043
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: we can we like I want to be able to

1044
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 4: talk about this stuff and not feel like I can't

1045
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: say anything without being being jabbed every time. That's all

1046
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1047
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1048
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry that I see that, and I'm sorry that

1049
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: for both of you, and I'm sorry that it's triggering,

1050
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: and I apologize that you're upset and it's triggering for you.

1051
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I jabb do you. I didn't mean to jab.

1052
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: I was making a joke, but is very triggering when

1053
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: you say that that's what you believe in, but yet

1054
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: you don't live that.

1055
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: I do live that.

1056
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: You didn't live that, Okay, then that's different.

1057
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 4: Okay, saying I don't live that and I didn't live

1058
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: that is totally different. Okay, currently presently, for the last

1059
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: two and a half years, I live that.

1060
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good.

1061
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 9: Sometimes, Michael, I'm just gonna throw one thing in there.

1062
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 9: A humor or sarcasm can be a way of healing.

1063
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 4: Oh, I know that so sometimes, but it's also can

1064
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 4: be your way of hiding feelings behind something.

1065
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 2: Well, my feeling is I'm like, well, don't say that.

1066
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 4: What would you rather say? What do you believe in? Michael?

1067
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 4: I believe that.

1068
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: I was a piece of No I would have said, like,

1069
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 2: I know you might not believe it's because of my past,

1070
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: but I believe it. You know, it's just a triggering situation.

1071
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: But I would like to say, though, wouldn't it be

1072
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: easier just to have done that instead? Like I mean,

1073
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: is something where you could and you.

1074
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 4: Could do that because I didn't know we were talking

1075
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 4: about us. I thought we were talking about the people

1076
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: in here, and you just asked me a question, what

1077
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: do you believe in? My personal belief is monogamy? Right, Yes,

1078
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 4: I didn't live by that, right, So that's just triggering.

1079
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: I understand that.

1080
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 5: I believe you, Michael, I believe you.

1081
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: I believe me.

1082
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe you too.

1083
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: Okay, everyone looked at me.

1084
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 5: I'm just staying silent in the corner. But like, oh,

1085
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 5: I think is sing.

1086
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 9: I think it's interesting and I think that, like I

1087
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 9: respect you guys so much for being willing and open

1088
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 9: and be open like that, and yes, we're going to

1089
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 9: have you know, difficult interviews like that where it does

1090
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 9: trigger and then it becomes so interesting and.

1091
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 5: Janna's so open, like she's so.

1092
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 9: You know, letting it out.

1093
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: I think that it was a joke, but there was

1094
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: like it was your way of being funny but also hurting.

1095
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: And he gets that because I'm the same way I

1096
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: make jokes and I'm uncomfortable. Yeah, but it obviously hurt.

1097
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 3: Yeh.

1098
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm sorry that you were triggered, okay, and that

1099
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: these past feelings came up for you, and I can

1100
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: understand why they would.

1101
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm shutting down. No.

1102
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: Now i feel like I'm like in preschool and I'm like, okay,

1103
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: you apologize.

1104
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: Now, you apologize. I did apologize. I said, I'm sorry.

1105
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: Okay, that's her.

1106
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: Now make eye contact with them.

1107
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 5: My question is like, what happens now?

1108
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 9: Because I like them, you know, my heart is breaking

1109
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 9: a little bit for both of you, because Janna's emotional

1110
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 9: and Michael's emotional and.

1111
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 5: It's so raw. So what happens now?

1112
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 9: Is this where we go sideways and then like you guys,

1113
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 9: hold on to it. Is there any way to like

1114
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 9: talk a little bit more and then really let go

1115
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 9: and be okay when.

1116
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: You walk out of the room, Well, how much time

1117
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: do we have whatever you met? No, I just again,

1118
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: I just when you say that that's what you believe

1119
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: and then you didn't do it, that's just very triggering.

1120
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 4: What would you, okay, calmly and realistically, what would you

1121
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: rather me say? And now? Moving forward? In situations like that,

1122
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: is it something where.

1123
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: You acknowledge the past and the pain?

1124
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 4: Okay?

1125
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: I think how much longer is he gonna have to

1126
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: acknowledge the past in the pain? That was my next question, like, like,

1127
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, obviously, come on, but you know, for a

1128
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: little bit longer you what will make you feel better?

1129
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: Maybe for a long time?

1130
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 8: I think so, yeah, And I think that's okay, and

1131
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 8: that's okay. And I think that you both know that

1132
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 8: and that's okay, right, and I and I do I agree,

1133
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 8: I do know that, and I think that is okay.

1134
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 8: There are there some instances where I would like to

1135
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 8: just when we're talking about someone or something else where

1136
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 8: I would like to just say what I believe in

1137
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 8: without having to go into a backstory of hey, I'm sorry,

1138
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 8: blah blah blah, blah, But this is my opinion on

1139
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 8: something like at times, am I going to want to

1140
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 8: be able to do that?

1141
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: Sure? Absolutely? Maybe with this I should have been more

1142
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: conscious of it being so triggering and acknowledged that, so

1143
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 4: I apologize sincerely. I do.

1144
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm sorry that I made a joke trigger

1145
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: that was a little harsh Sarah's class.

1146
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I think neither of you needs to

1147
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 9: apologize for how you both felt.

1148
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 5: Do you know what I mean?

1149
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 9: Like the joke maybe whatever you can apoloize for that,

1150
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 9: Michael can apologize for, like maybe not staying more calm

1151
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 9: or centered from the joke, but like what you both

1152
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 9: feel is so real, And I acknowledge your emotions here

1153
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 9: and you both deserve to have them.

1154
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1155
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 10: And I do believe Mike Well.

1156
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 8: I believe that he currently is current mode is one

1157
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 8: hundred percent in on monogamy.

1158
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 10: I don't believe in wance. A cheater always a cheater.

1159
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 10: I think we can grow from our mistakes.

1160
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: Thank you, Mark Wow, I agree.

1161
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: I agree with that too.

1162
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 5: We all agree on some.

1163
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 3: Evolution.

1164
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 5: What is it? I don't know.

1165
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 2: We're growing, We're growing, We're growing.

1166
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 9: Nothing feels more appropriate right now, than a commercial.

1167
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 5: Wow, thank god?

1168
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 4: All right, Mark, can you read couples too far? Yeah?

1169
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 8: This is light in the mood I think From Haley.

1170
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 8: This is an email sent to Jenna Kramer at iHeartMedia

1171
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 8: dot com. What are your thoughts on couples who don't

1172
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 8: fart in front of each other or talk about their

1173
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 8: bathroom time? I think that it's weird. Our friends are

1174
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 8: getting married and her soon to be a husband has

1175
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 8: never farted in front of her. He's never, he never has.

1176
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 8: I get trying to keep some mystery and trying to

1177
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 8: impress the other person. But going through life and always

1178
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 8: holding your farts and not ever truly relaxing sounds not

1179
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 8: so fun.

1180
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: That's me has tie fight. Wait, you've never farted in

1181
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: front of time?

1182
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: Okay, let me tell you something really funny. No, I

1183
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: mean he's had a little slip ups, but I just

1184
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: like die laughing and then like we don't, like I

1185
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: can't focus on anything for the rest of the day.

1186
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: But literally four years in four years in we're in

1187
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: New York, every time I had to go to the

1188
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: bathroom or do anything, I was running downstairs to Starbucks.

1189
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: He literally thought I was having an affair because I

1190
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: was like, I'll be right back.

1191
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: I was going to I was like, not happening.

1192
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: I've never been I never.

1193
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 4: Went in a public restroom. Oh, I was a fact that.

1194
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: I was doing loops.

1195
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 5: I'm running like up.

1196
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: Where are you serious that you've never farted in front

1197
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: of him or took a poopy in the bathroom.

1198
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: Well, things are getting complicated now that we lived together.

1199
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 2: Those people at the Stars, we ever heard you fart?

1200
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 5: No?

1201
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 2: Wow?

1202
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: No, I mean, don't let Janet fool you. It's it's

1203
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: drew and far between with her. She just like went

1204
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 4: out the other day. She no, no, she was seeing

1205
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 4: it right behind me at the desk.

1206
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 2: Thought it was going to be silent.

1207
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 4: I was just like she was holding Jays and she's

1208
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: like Jays.

1209
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, okay, I thought I was going to

1210
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: be silent. Remember the first time I fired in front

1211
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: of you.

1212
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 4: First time she farted, we were in a hotel. Who

1213
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 4: knows what city I was.

1214
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: I think we were in Texas.

1215
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she far the same thing. She thought it

1216
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: was gonna be silent. It was the first time I

1217
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 4: heard her fart. When we started dating. I had it

1218
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: on camera and I videoed. I was video she was

1219
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 4: like hiding herself off in the corner.

1220
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 2: Like I thought, yeah, because he the way he looked

1221
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 2: at me, I was just like I read hid in

1222
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: the corner.

1223
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: I had a room in college who literally thought was

1224
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: their thing. They would sit on top of each other

1225
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: and fart on each other, and that was not happening.

1226
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: Now this guy, I mean, he farts all the time now.

1227
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: But that stings.

1228
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 4: But that's like for a guy, at least just for me.

1229
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 4: When you get to that point of in a relationship,

1230
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 4: it's so like it's like, oh, it's like I made it,

1231
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 4: you know, and thinking about dating all over again. If

1232
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 4: you think about dating all over again, it's like I

1233
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: gotta go through the whole process. No, I don't think

1234
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 4: they like get to the point where I can fart

1235
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 4: in front of her.

1236
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: I just think I mean, if I farted in front

1237
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: of you all the time, I mean, wouldn't you if

1238
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: that's not sexy, you know what? It would be gross?

1239
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: Like we have to And so sometimes I wish that

1240
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: you wouldn't fart as much because I'm like, don't you

1241
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: want me to be attracted to you?

1242
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 4: And you walk in You know what's funny right now

1243
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 4: is that Joli knows the word fart. So I was

1244
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 4: changing her in the middle of the night. The other night,

1245
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 4: I took her diver off, but another one on. So

1246
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: she was naked from the waist down and she farted,

1247
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 4: and she goes, oops, I fart.

1248
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 2: She doesn't know how to add the eted. Oh, I fart,

1249
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: and so like IM far in front of her, so like,

1250
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:12,959
Speaker 2: mommy fart.

1251
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 4: It's hilarious say that.

1252
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I do have one more email that it's fascinating.

1253
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 8: All right, this one takes some real turns that I

1254
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 8: did not expects.

1255
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 3: Like a rude.

1256
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 8: Lindsey says, I've been married to my husband for six

1257
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 8: years and we have a five and a half year

1258
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 8: old daughter, but I'm not sure I love him. I

1259
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 8: thought it might be because I like girls. My husband

1260
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 8: and I decided to try a threesome with another woman.

1261
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 8: They go, I have never really been about sex, and

1262
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 8: to be honest, I enjoyed the threesome, but I still

1263
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 8: felt like, eh, whatever, I never really want sex, and

1264
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 8: I'm I'm not sure I have ever been in love.

1265
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 8: What if I'm not capable of loving someone? Is there

1266
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 8: something I can do? Should I divorce my husband and

1267
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 8: leave my child in a separate household. Oh boy, there's

1268
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 8: a lot going on here.

1269
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: That's a lot. I'll start with the beginning. I feel

1270
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: loveless marriage.

1271
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: I think it's a good place to start, Sarah.

1272
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: I think loveless marriage is common. A lot of people

1273
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: maybe stay with their Why are you looking at me

1274
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: like that? I'm sorry you, Mark and I are both

1275
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: looking at you like that.

1276
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 5: I am not.

1277
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends who say that they've

1278
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: fallen out of love with their spouse and that they

1279
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: stay with them just for the kids.

1280
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 3: I hate that.

1281
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: Wow, you Mark, you're happy you love your wife. People

1282
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 2: falling in and.

1283
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 4: Too, But that.

1284
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: Makes me sad. I think people can go in and

1285
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: out of love. Yea, And I think that's some of

1286
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: my friends. I think have felt that, and they you know,

1287
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: but they stay because they have kids and I, you know,

1288
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: I know, I've you know, so I can see her saying,

1289
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: but I've also loved my husband and you like sometimes

1290
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: what and I do? Yes?

1291
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: While because didn't she say she doesn't like suck?

1292
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, she never really wants it, she's never been in love.

1293
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 8: She thought maybe women nah, like it doesn't sound.

1294
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: Like I wonder it sounds like she's on like pills

1295
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: or something like that, depressed, like she doesn't.

1296
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: Have it's like she loves her like obviously.

1297
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, to get off. If you're on anything,

1298
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: I would talk to your doctor and get something a

1299
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: little lighter that you can have more emotion.

1300
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 4: I wonder, I wonder if she knows what her love

1301
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 4: languages are, just because language that could be interesting for

1302
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 4: someone who like you said that. You guys are saying,

1303
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 4: like she seems numb. We'll find out how you register love.

1304
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if it's not him, then you don't want

1305
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 2: to stay in a loveless marriage forever. That's just no.

1306
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 4: But if she educates herself on that and then tells

1307
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 4: her husband, hey, this is how I receive love, give

1308
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: it a time, Give it a time to for him

1309
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: to trial that and be like, if he's doing those

1310
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: things and she still doesn't feel it, Mark is.

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00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: Just like that was a very evolved response from.

1312
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: Jesus.

1313
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, maybe he does believe in monogamy after all.

1314
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 4: Who thought no?

1315
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: But that that is that is a very point, honey,

1316
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: That is a very very evolved therapeutic response. I bet

1317
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: if they talk to.

1318
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: Each other he'd probably be like, yeah, you know, I

1319
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: kind of get it. I can feel like you don't

1320
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: love me, and.

1321
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: This is what I this is how I would like

1322
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: to receive love sounds.

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00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,360
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Speaker 4: you know what we forgot to talk about?

1329
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 8: What do we forget to talk about using Mike's razor?

1330
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: What is wrong with that?

1331
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 4: You know, it's really funny about this though. I'm glad

1332
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 4: you brought up here because yesterday you showered first I did,

1333
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: and I was gonna ask you. I saw. I looked

1334
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: in the shower and my razor it looked like it

1335
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: was turning. It was turned a different way.

1336
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 5: Wow.

1337
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 4: I know you didn't because and I started. But what's crazy?

1338
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 4: I almost brought this up to you. I started feeling

1339
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: like anxious, like angry because it's something small. She didn't

1340
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: end up. I ended up seeing her razor that she

1341
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 4: brought into the bathroom because it wasn't there before. But

1342
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 4: like these razors are expensive, Like I I have a

1343
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 4: strategic amount of times that I use one razor because

1344
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I shave my face. I shave my head

1345
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 4: like a ball guy. We use it a lot, a lot.

1346
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 4: So to know that she might use that and use

1347
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 4: it areas and I put it on my face, it really,

1348
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 4: it really does give me anxiety, Like it really does

1349
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 4: bother me.

1350
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: Why does it bother you that I shave my huha

1351
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: and then you put it on your face.

1352
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry because.

1353
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: Inside it's just it's just there.

1354
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 4: If you shave your legs, even if you shave your

1355
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 4: legs and then I shave.

1356
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: My legs are cleaner than your face, it's not.

1357
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: It's just still it's still your skin and bacteria.

1358
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: It's still those things. Just like I'm dirty, Okay, it's

1359
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: very I just.

1360
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: Like, just like I would like to use my towel,

1361
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 4: but yesterday I used my towel, so I had to

1362
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 4: use your towel.

1363
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: When you get out of the shower, you're clean, Michael, I.

1364
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: Still like use my towel. I'm sorry, it's just what

1365
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 4: I like to I like to use my towel. I

1366
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 4: like to use my razor. I like to use my tea.

1367
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: Are you I don't ever want to use your tooth brush.

1368
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: That's disgusting. That's like you you're getting like steak out

1369
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: of your teeth. But when you get out of a shower,

1370
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: when you get out of a shower, you are physically clean,

1371
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: unless you don't wash your body with soap.

1372
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 4: All right, just picture this picture. I use your towel

1373
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: and I'm clean. I'm wiping up my butt, cleaning everything,

1374
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 4: drying it all off. And guess what next time you,

1375
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 4: Next time you shower, you take that same part of

1376
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 4: the towel. Little do you know, that's where my butt was,

1377
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: and you wipe it up. You're drying your face were

1378
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 4: clean or not, that's a food for thought.

1379
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: Well, if it's clean, I don't care. Okay, you make

1380
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: me go down there anyway.

1381
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: So I got no in that game this season. I

1382
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: don't know.

1383
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: We're done.

1384
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 4: You're welcome.

1385
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god,