WEBVTT - RHOP Season 7 Review: Can Potomac be Great Again? 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:05.439 So you mean to tell me you had a dangerous, violence, aggressive, 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:09.520 tall woman with huge feet. According to Candace, you let 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:11.600 that person come in the house and stay with you. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:15.280 But Monique and Kandas are making black women look bad. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:16.320 What is Mia doing? 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.479 What is Mia doing? Because it's the same situation, same setting. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:31.440 Stay tuned, we'll be right back after these quick ads. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:37.680 Welcome to Reality with the King. 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.760 It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.560 one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.200 television with over ten years a production experience. 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.200 Once a week from Reality with the King, we'll. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.840 Sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:00.120 our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:10.440 are still talking and tweeting about. All right, rain Drop, 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.360 So look, I did have a six week hiatus for 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:19.759 Reality with the King podcast, and during that time, my love, 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.680 the executive producer, Well now she's the former executive producer, 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:25.959 but she is. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.680 The forever fan favorite. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.240 One of my most requested guests is returning. 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.200 Yes, honey, we got Dash and Hally. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.679 Brown Baby, Oh my gosh, Hello, it's so weird to 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.320 be on this side and having you prepped me the 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.800 executive producer, prepping the executive producer to talk to the 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:45.759 executive producer. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.760 And in the worlds of OG, I am your favorite 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:54.000 executive producers, favorite executive producer. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.280 Periods, our own little like multiverse of madness that we 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:57.960 got going on. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.080 How are you? So listen, it's all about you. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.880 Just give the rain drops a quick update, because look, 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.480 they love you. They miss you, and people on the 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.040 streets be like, where's Jasmine Child, and I'd be like, 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.440 I ain't telling Jazzmin's business child. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.680 I love it they're looking for the twenty three year 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:21.120 old Jasmine. I love how somebody really thought your friend 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.160 really thought I was twenty three. No long ways away. Yes, 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.160 I've been great. I am at Sony now. So I'm 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:33.240 the executive producer of Entertainment Podcasts at Sony, and it's 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:37.160 been a really cool journey. I miss you obviously, like yeah, 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.799 but we still talk. Though we still talk, but I 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.120 miss just kind of like being with you in terms 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.639 of like working with you on the show and helping 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.200 you out in all of that. So it's so good 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.360 to just be back with you in this form outside 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.480 of me just like calling you, like Hey, you got 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.160 five minutes and then thirty minutes later were still on 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:53.560 the phone. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:55.840 So it's good to be here. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.160 So look, we have to do a deep dive into 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.520 Platon and what went wrong this season to the point 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.160 where a lot of people are turned off by it. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.519 I wanted to talk to you because you're not only 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.200 my friend, you're not only a fan favorite. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.720 You're also a fan of Potomac. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.679 You're a black woman as well, and all of those 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.960 things to me is a condition in terms of. 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.400 Who I wanted to talk to about this topic. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.960 I did not want to do this alone because I 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.840 wanted somebody who, again unlike me, who's not in the 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:33.799 reality business, who doesn't have a sort of deep relationship. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:33.799 With the cast. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.400 So I wanted to talk to you about it because 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.160 we follow each other on Twitter and honey ms Jasmine said, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.400 I don't want to put words in your mouth, but 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.520 you stopped watching Potomac this past season. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:47.520 Yes, I did. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.120 I think the last thing I remember was them they 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.040 went somewhere and they were at they were on a bus. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.840 I think Wendy put something together. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.880 It might have been in episode two or three, and 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.280 it was when Yeah, Wendy hath them burn the paper, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.840 and I remember, is that that happened earlier this season, right. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.120 Jasmine, that's like episode thought, Yeah. 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.320 That's that's the last episode. I remember watching the way 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.640 they tried to do Candace or the way that they 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.120 were setting it up they were going to try to 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.680 do Candace and Chris. I don't fuck with that at all. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:23.000 That felt so dark to me and just nasty. And 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.560 I'm biased because I really enjoy Candace, Like I think 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:31.240 Candace is a star to me, right, So I'm biased absolutely, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.080 but I just felt like watching anybody the way we 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.400 had watched Candace and Chris and for that to kind 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:37.960 of be the storyline they were going with. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:39.720 I don't know if they continued. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.080 With that for the entire season, but I saw that 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.920 and immediately I was like, no, this is very very dark. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.520 The Housewives just has gotten into a place, all of them, right, 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.680 every city, they've gotten to a place where like they're 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.360 trying to ruin families, like it's not fun Shade anymore, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.240 Like y'all are trying to ruin people. 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:57.920 And they just really turned me off. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:59.760 And it just felt like this is a group of 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.320 women and these are not friends in any sense of 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.520 the imagination. When filming starts, they come, they clock in, 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.760 they you know, discuss their little story lines or whatever. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.240 They film the show, and they don't talk to each 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.200 other once that's done. Obviously, Giselle and Robin do because 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.599 they have a podcast together, but it doesn't feel like 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.120 any of them are actually friends. And it just wasn't 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.080 a good watch to me. I didn't get good vibes 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.960 from it, so I stopped whatever that episode was where 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.120 they were burning a paper child at and they weren't 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.119 really trying to hear Wendy out with hers and yeah, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:30.560 Ashley turned on candidate. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.360 It's real quick. I was like, yes, these these witches 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:34.960 are getting dark. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.560 And I say bitch as a term of endearment, like 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.240 love them down, respect to all women, but you know 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:42.560 it's a term of endearment. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.480 Yes, And listen, now that we don't work with each 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.360 other tomore, we can't reveal that we call each other 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.839 bitches all the time. Time. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.320 I have to check for myself because I know everybody 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.000 isn't a fan of that word, and I do, you know, 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:56.880 genuinely apologize if you're offended by that. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.400 But that's how me and mine, that's how we communicate. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.839 No, that's you and I communicate, And I had no 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.520 idea that you stopped watching it that early. Like I said, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.120 I did not notice this until last week on Twitter 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.719 when you revealed that you stopped watching this season at all. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.680 One of the things that you and I both used 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:18.000 to enjoy about Potomac was it was fun. It was 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:22.000 fun shade, It was light shade. And although we knew 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.680 that Giselle was a producer and wore her producer had, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.560 we both never felt that it was so obvious in 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:32.320 terms of making things happen out of nowhere and pulling 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.440 things out of thin air. And the problem with this 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.920 season was the fact that it's truly everything you said. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.400 It was very dark. And the reason why I'm happy 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:46.120 we're talking about this is because a physical fight does 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.280 not always mean that's the only way things are dark 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:53.040 on reality TV. At the time of my interview with Giselle, 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.040 Jasmine was still on board as the EP of the show, 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:57.840 and I don't want to put words of. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.200 Your mouth, but we all felt like, Okayjisell was a 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:01.159 cool woman. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.440 Absolutely, And what I always tell people is outside of 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.080 the show, the Gizelle that I know personally is a 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:10.120 breath of fresh air. 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:11.119 She's so fun. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.360 However, when she's on the show, I feel like Giselle 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.040 holds the weight of the show on her shoulders and 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.120 she feels the need to behave in a way that 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.200 is really going to turn people on her. 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.520 Yeah, because the way that I've been seeing people carry 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.840 on about Gazelle is completely different than I think the 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.000 Gizelle that I was able to meet when she came 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.640 on your show. I will say, obviously I only had 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.840 that experience with her, and I recognize she was coming 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.920 on your show. I'm an executive producer of your show. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.240 There's a level of the quorum that you know, we 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.760 had with each other. So I think there is a 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.600 politeness and a kindness there. But I also think that 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.760 I'm a very good judge of character, and Giselle just 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.040 didn't come off like a nasty person like. She came 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.640 off like a very cool, like down to earth woman. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.840 And so so you know, hearing what I'm hearing about her, 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.760 that she's colorless, that she's evil in all of this, 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.400 it feels like it's a different character. Like it feels 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:15.720 like it's a character that she's portraying on television. But again, 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.000 I can't really say for sure. I only met her 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:19.480 for what like an hour and a half, so I 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.360 don't know if that's how she carries on in her 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.280 real life outside of situations like this. I think the 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.000 Chris thing. I do think there are worlds where, like 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.800 your perception of what's happening is could be uncomfortable. Like 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.319 whatever did happen with her and Chris? If he made 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.880 her uncomfortable, that's Giselle's story to tell, right, like none 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.040 of us can tell her he didn't do it. I 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.400 think the way that it was blown up was very unfair, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.280 and we all know that a lot of people can't 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.160 you know, think or have discussions with nuance. So it's like, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.960 once you say a man tried to be in my 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.959 room with us alone and made me feel uncomfortable, people 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.600 are going to automatically assume the worst. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.040 And that's what I didn't like about it. 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.920 It is like, I don't I think there was a 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.720 point where she did try to Like, I wasn't saying 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.400 he did anything, It's just how I felt, and I 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.240 do think that's the right stance to take. But I 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.720 just think the way it was presented, you can't unring 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.920 that bell once. Once it's wrung, Once you say what 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.800 you say, you can't go back and like dial it back. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.280 Well, it wasn't really like that. You should have presented 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:16.760 it that way. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.520 Initially, I'm confused, and I think that's why I don't 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.199 like the show anymore, because I'm like, who are these 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:22.240 women really? 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:22.800 And truly? 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:27.280 Now, listen, you're confused, I'm confused. Think about it. I 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:28.360 praised the show. 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.800 I told my millions of listeners how much I love 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.719 the show. I gave Gazelle the coveted position and being 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.520 in the top ten greatest Housewives of all time. So 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.680 you're not alone, Jasmine in your confusion. As I was 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.600 watching this season, because I did watch more episodes than you. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.400 I'm so happy for you. 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:55.920 I always said, Jasmine, something's off about this season. So 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.959 when it was revealed that not only are we confused 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.120 about this Chris Bassett story, because listen, in Giselle's defense, 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.480 I have spoken to people who are friends with Giselle, 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.280 and they also told me that Gazelle told them days 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.520 after it happened that she did feel uncomfortable. So I 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.240 want to make people understand that Giselle, in real life, 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:18.559 we have mutual friends. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.160 Our mutual friends have told me personally. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:25.760 To Gazelle's credit, she did tell us that she felt 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.000 uncomfortable with Chris. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.080 That is a truth. 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:32.040 I think the part that gets confusing is she waited 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.320 over a year to. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.319 Talk about it on the show. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.480 And although, as a producer myself, yes, we want you 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.080 to bring things to life to the show, but I 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.360 think that year and a half gap of not talking 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.400 about it and Giselle saying, well, I brought it up 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.480 because Ashley was talking about these dms. It's sort of like, Okay, 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.000 Ashley had an instant story. She posted a video in 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:04.400 her stories responded to Ashley's story and said, why didn't 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.880 y'all come to the job he works at the w 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:12.840 Hotel and party and Ashley allegedly took that to the 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.840 alleged meeting that the housewives have before filming, and that's 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.240 how they made this part of the storyline allegedly. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.440 Not pre production, Yes, this. 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:26.199 Is pre production, and that's what made Giselle allegedly bring 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.360 up the Chris Bassett thing and they started to put 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:34.200 this issue together. So that's why it's confusing Jasmine too, 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:38.640 because it did happen over a year ago. To Gizelle's credit, 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.240 he told people immediately, but she did not tell To 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:46.800 your point again, Jazz, if Candace is your friend, why 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.240 are you telling every Tom, Dick and Harry about this? 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.800 But you don't tell the woman you claim to be 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:54.720 friends with who you're on the show. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:59.480 And if your intentions weren't to make Chris seem like 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.760 a bad person, why not tell Candace in private without 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.320 cameras there right, Like, you know, Jiselle's a brilliant woman. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.640 She knows what the implications are of telling Candace that 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:14.000 about her husband on national television. You know what that 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.160 was gonna do. So if you really did care for Candace, 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.080 or if you weren't trying to make it what it became, 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.240 why not call her right after it happened, like, hey, girl, 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.240 this just happened. I know Chris is this type of guy, 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.199 but this did make me feel this way. And as 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.440 a woman, I'm sure you can understand that because what 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.719 I also have come to know I think we've all 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.079 come to know about Candace. She's rational until you activate her, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.160 but she's a rational person. So I think Candace would 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.480 have understood if Giselle called her and said that and 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.640 even if Candace didn't, y'all can do that over the phone. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.680 You don't have to wait until the cameras are rolling 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.679 to then tell her that, because one you know, is 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.080 gonna activate her and piss her off. And then you 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:52.800 know what that looks like to the rest of us 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:54.880 watching like it just it feels dark. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.319 No, it does, And what also felt dark was and 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.880 I'm sure you saw the clips online about. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.520 This jazz Mea throwing a drink on Wendy. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.959 Oh gosh, I always forget that Mia exists, but yet. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:11.160 Damn jazz. 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.840 Mia did give us a she gave but no, okay, 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.400 I'll give me a this does a frog have a 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:23.120 watertight asshole? I text you that you did so, yes, 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.280 that thank you for your contribution. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.439 And that's it. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:33.160 It feels like she's always trying too hard. And we 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.440 talked about this when we were having the discussion about 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.240 Real Housewives Orange County and Noela right, like, they have 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.520 the makings of really good housewives, but they are trying 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.960 too hard and it's just coming off very inauthentic and 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:50.280 just hard to follow, hard to relate to, hard to like, 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.160 hard to like, hard to like on the show. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.960 For me, when you saw her throw a drink on 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.280 Wendy and you saw the aftermath, because again, I'm pretty 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.000 sure you saw the clips of it, or. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:00.400 Did you not. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.920 I want to say I have seen the clip of 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.559 that happen because she threw it kind of like backhandidly, 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.080 like she was sitting next to Wendy. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:08.800 Yes, okay, I've seen that clip. 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.480 Yes, yeah, she threw it to her faith and she 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.120 did it, and then she tried to hit. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.880 Her with her purse. She tried to like, no, I know. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.200 This is the reason why I got upset about that. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:23.880 And me and dj Ritchie Sky did a recap about 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.880 that episode, and he felt so strongly too, how disgusting 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.560 and dark it was. We all agreed to that Mia 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.960 took her purse and was trying to hit Wendy with 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:34.480 her purse. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.720 That's guttersnipe behavior. 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.400 Not guttersnipe Jasmine. 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:43.760 It got so bad that Wendy's employer, John Hopkins University 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.000 child They put a black car up and said this 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.200 university has no connection to the real housewats of Potomac. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:51.520 Wait where did they put that? 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:53.960 They put that? You know how you put the black 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:54.960 car up at the end. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:56.760 Oh, I'm the TV I think. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:59.320 On the TV screen. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.440 Oh my god, yes, but you don't. I don't want 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.240 to harp on the past. What was the reaction to 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.800 their coworkers after this happened, Because I really want to 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:09.760 draw a line. 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.520 Okay, so I'm gonna tell you something, Jasmine. Let me 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:14.440 tell you what happened first. 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.720 So, after Mia through a drink on Wendy, Robin took 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.080 her phone out and started recording it, and there were 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:26.160 numerous shots of Robin laughing at what was going on 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.160 in front of her. Then Giselle was eating her dinner 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:35.360 and telling what Wendy was. Of course, you know, listen, 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.720 a black girl got a drink thrown, so of course 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.160 you're reacting like black folks do. 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:42.840 Like I'm gonna beat her. You know, I'm gonna do this. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:43.760 I'm gonna do that. 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:48.680 That was Wendy's natural reaction, right so as any black 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:50.320 woman in that situation done the same thing. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:51.840 I'm about to whoop her boom boom. 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:56.080 Even Phaedra, who has esquad after her last name, tried 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.840 to be like an esther and get her purse and 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.360 hit Kenya with it. Because when a black girl is 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.440 and that things happen, so Gizelle should know that she 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:06.560 went to an HBCU. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.480 When a person physically a tax you, that should be 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.440 your next go to to defend yourself. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:13.440 Is I know a child. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.960 Some of these Bisley Hills housewives don't, so any who, 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.600 Wendy was saying that and Gizelle was like, she might 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:20.160 hit you back. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.920 You know you need to sit down paraphrasing. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.840 A few days later after that aired, I saw Giselle 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:30.400 at Portia's wedding. Me and Giselle said next to each 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.600 other at Porsia's Nigerian wedding. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.600 Because me and Giselle are friends. 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.720 I will never disclose a private conversation to the public, 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.960 but what I will share with you, Jasmine and the 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:44.240 listeners is the fact that I really took that moment 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:49.400 and told Giselle how I felt, and I was very 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:50.240 sincere with. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:51.680 Giselle, who I love. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:56.880 I really had a real deep conversation with Giselle. And 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.480 the only thing I will say is at the very end, 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.880 jose Yelle had her rebuttal to me, right, because. 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:04.359 That's what friends do. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.840 Me and Jasmine always have rebuttals because I feel like 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.520 when you're passionate about something you just It's not always 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.840 like yes, ma'am, yes, sorry, no, you have a rebuttal 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.640 to Jaselle's credit. At the very end of our conversation, 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.720 Giselle said, I see your point. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.200 I got you, and I. 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.760 Wanted to share that because I know Gizelle gets a 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.840 lot of flack and I have had numerous moments of 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.800 being disappointed with Giselle numerous If a friend can't be 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:36.800 real with you, you don't want to grow. And my concern 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:42.720 for Gizelle is she doesn't have many or any people 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.360 around her Jasmin who can tell her like. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:46.600 You need to stop. 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.520 And when I say that, I mean it's the circle 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:53.359 of friends you're around. Robin, if that's your best friend, 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.440 both of y'all should be holding each other account of Bell. 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.720 It shouldn't be Carlos King, and it should also be 0:17:58.840 --> 0:17:59.440 the production. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.240 Can Robin hold her accountable? 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.760 Robin feels the same way and holds the same views, 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.240 It's impossible. My expectation isn't for Robin to hold Jozel 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:11.119 accountable for anything. Like I said, it's a character that 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.679 she's playing. That's why it's like really hard to just 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.639 get with. You know, at this point, we know reality TV. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.000 That's a loose term, right, yes, But her saying I 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:22.639 see your point at the end of your talk at 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.400 Portia's wedding speaks to the person that I met when 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.440 she came to do your show. She seems reasonable, right, 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.639 she seems nice, kind, Right, That's not the person that 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:37.120 people are experiencing on Potomac. And again I say, which 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.280 one is the real? Will the real Zelle Bryant please 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:40.920 stand up. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:42.760 For real? 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.480 That's how I feel about it, like show yourself, because 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.359 she seems like such a likable person when she's not 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.040 playing the Giselle on potomach I think her even just 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:56.800 kind of encouraging. Wendy and MIA's kind of feud is 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:01.240 also very contradictory because with my Nique in Candace Spot 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.960 it was, y'all, are you know representing black women wrong? 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.040 And I forgot all the ship she pulled bringing security 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.960 around her. Did she bring security with her the next 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.480 time she was around Mia? I'm gonna assume. 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:14.240 No, no. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.919 And then Mia was allowed to stay in the house 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.240 after the fight and Wendy had to go into a 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:19.920 hotel room. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:24.560 So, Yumana, tell me you had a dangerous violence, aggressive 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.320 tall woman with huge feet according to the Candace, you 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.720 let that person come in the house and stay with you. 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:34.400 But Monique and Candace are making black women look bad. 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:35.439 What is Mia doing? 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:37.000 What is MEA doing? 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:41.119 Because it's the same situation, same setting. She's aggressive because 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.040 according to you know what I've been seeing on Twitter, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.879 she also is very shady for pay. She chased her 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:51.960 best friends and her people. That's aggressive. Hashtag aggressive Mia. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.679