WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Fun With New Friends

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's level,

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody knew he scrugs here with a special show today.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you looking for Danny McCrae and Barry

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<v Speaker 1>Church Well, they were on other shows today. This means

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<v Speaker 1>I get to have some fun with two of my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>former Cowboy Everson Walls and in my fourth favorite tar

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<v Speaker 1>heel of all time in Carolina basketball history, Jesse Holly.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as I'm in the top five, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>I Caraboba, I'm a new top five. You're in the

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<v Speaker 1>top five. I got Jordan's number one. You know, dog

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<v Speaker 1>team makes I five there, so he's number one. James Worthy,

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<v Speaker 1>James Worthy's number two, a kid from my high school,

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<v Speaker 1>west Over High School with Famille, North Carolina. He's about

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<v Speaker 1>to sign. He's already committed to the guitar heels, so

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<v Speaker 1>he could be number three. You number four because you

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<v Speaker 1>also helped bring a national You helped bring a national championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, come on, you lissen me behind the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that hadn't even played yet he's he's just a recruit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I understand it. But my time, like Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>was a great time. I went as a two sport athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>I won a national championship. So I'll be number four

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<v Speaker 1>or this listen, I'll be number one and everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is hard. So I'll take that. I'll take that. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this kid's a bus, and this kid's a bus from

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<v Speaker 1>your high school. You gotta move up. I move up,

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<v Speaker 1>I move up. You know, this is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where where finally, finally, you know, here I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll turn fifty in December. You know, I started going

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<v Speaker 1>to west Over High School nineteen before. It took this

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<v Speaker 1>long for us to get for somebody to be good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to play Caroline of basketball. So this is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge deal in my world for me and Everson. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted to ask you this question here. Were you

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<v Speaker 1>a part of that group that went into the ends

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<v Speaker 1>on the Texas Stadium and broke up that fun bunch

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<v Speaker 1>when they tried to do that little little thing and

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<v Speaker 1>Smurst tried to do that little thing here in the

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<v Speaker 1>ends on it, you guys broke it up. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't not lie. I was not a part of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of one of them, my teammates, Ron Fellows,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a little a little upset at me because

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there and what I was letting him not.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, well, I was covering my man, so we

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<v Speaker 1>was somewhere else. So my man, he was, he had

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with the play. You were the one

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<v Speaker 1>that got scored on. So don't get upset with me

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't hold it down on your side. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can't just come run into the end zone. It's

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<v Speaker 1>already over with by now. If you don't want them

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<v Speaker 1>to score, if you don't want them to celebrate, then

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<v Speaker 1>don't let them score. That's what I had to tell

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Fellows. So no long answer. No. So so to

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<v Speaker 1>explain to some of our younger viewers out there, back

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<v Speaker 1>when Washington had won Super Bowl seventeen. The next year

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<v Speaker 1>they came back. They were the highest scoring offense in

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<v Speaker 1>NFL history, and they had a game every of course

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<v Speaker 1>against the Cowboys and the old Texas Stadium, and whenever

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<v Speaker 1>they would score, the receivers groups they called the Smurs,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Brown and some of these and other guys, they

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<v Speaker 1>would go in the endel and they would raise their

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<v Speaker 1>hands like that, they jump up in the hand and

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<v Speaker 1>a jump up in the air to a high five.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was when I believe Dennis Thurman, I think

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<v Speaker 1>thurma was wanted them to win over there, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, nah, you guys aren't doing that. Here, guys

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<v Speaker 1>not doing it. And it was it was pretty good theater.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always wondered was ever since in that And

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<v Speaker 1>now I got my answer that it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis Thurmant. It was Dennis Thurman, Michael Downs and round

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<v Speaker 1>Fellows was there. They were called a fun Bunch, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a few names. That was a smurf. They

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<v Speaker 1>were the smurfs on the fun Bunch that year because

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<v Speaker 1>they thought that was fun. They do a little rock

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<v Speaker 1>and then they all go up and do a high

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<v Speaker 1>five like they were in some nineteen seventies uh cock Buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>Cock Buddy movie or some crap like that, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>so so it was it was Charlie Brown, amazing. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the guy's name was. I think it was Virgil

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<v Speaker 1>say you might remember these guys, Jesse that some of

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<v Speaker 1>the names of the Whiteouts. Of course Sanders, who was

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<v Speaker 1>Doug William's favorite target, and that great Super Bowl wins.

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<v Speaker 1>So and Mark was also by the way, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah it was. It was a good group and they

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<v Speaker 1>blew us out. They blew us out that game, so

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<v Speaker 1>they can party all they want. This is up to

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<v Speaker 1>us to stop the celebration. Okay, all right, so let's diet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what are you gonna say? Jesse? Ups are? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I was good good. He don't know nothing about this

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<v Speaker 1>old school stuff. Man. I'm I'm sitting up here with

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<v Speaker 1>you young guys. Man, I'm used to being with the

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<v Speaker 1>old dudes. We start off slow. You know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a little tea on the side or something. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your boy, Jesse. Jesse's probably guys energy drinke

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<v Speaker 1>right there. He's ready to go. So let's go. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. Don't let me stop you guys from getting

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<v Speaker 1>fired up. Let's go, man, let's go. I'm ready, old

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<v Speaker 1>man can keep up. Let's go. So how about the

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers coming to town, went in the game and

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<v Speaker 1>apparently bringing a whole bunch of COVID with four more

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<v Speaker 1>players have COVID, including quarterback Ben roethlisbergerg It it all

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<v Speaker 1>started with tight Advance McDonald. So you know the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>so far don't have anyone that's contacted COVID. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys were gonna have a practice this week that's been canceled,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're just kind of virtual meetings on their bye week.

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<v Speaker 1>Because playing the Steelers with all this COVID happening there

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<v Speaker 1>so a perfect truly a perfect time for the bye

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<v Speaker 1>week for the Cowboys. Ever, sing what did you make

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<v Speaker 1>of this story? Well, my thing is, how in the

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<v Speaker 1>hell did he even get on the field. I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of confused KNWI about the protocol. If he was

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<v Speaker 1>tested Saturday, if he was tested Friday, maybe he shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have traveled on Saturday. You know, these are the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not really privy too because every team seems

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<v Speaker 1>to have a different protocol. So to me, how when

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<v Speaker 1>did you find out? As the question, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>did find out soon, why did he make the trip?

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course you're look at consequences. They said

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<v Speaker 1>that he only caught one pass for two yards and

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<v Speaker 1>he was tackled by I believe it was Wilson if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken, and so you know, that's just one

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<v Speaker 1>guy came in contact with him on the pass. But

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<v Speaker 1>what about blocking plays. I mean, what about the people

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<v Speaker 1>that he affected infected on the Cowboys. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of things that you don't want to play with. Knwi,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to play with this stuff. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>going back to the Dodgers, And I know you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>a Dodgers fan. When the when the player came out

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<v Speaker 1>and he knew he was making a mistake, but he

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<v Speaker 1>got caught up. You know, these are the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>things that if you're gonna stick to protocol, stick to protocol,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise you are putting people's lives in danger because of

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<v Speaker 1>celebrations and really because of your own ego. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's really sad and scary. I consistently said that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone just makes this thing up as they go along.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching the Clipson Notre Damn game this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I see Trevor Lawrence on the sideline. But what's he

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<v Speaker 1>doing here? This guy had COVID. You know, if he's

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<v Speaker 1>not playing because he's got COVID, why is he on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline? So I just feel like so many people

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<v Speaker 1>are making this thing up as they go along. Here

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesse, here are the names Ben Roethlisberger, offensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>Gerald Hawkins, running back Jaylen Samuel's linebacker Vince Williams there

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<v Speaker 1>in quarantine now and of course, um the first person

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<v Speaker 1>that was tested was Vance McDonald got in the reserve

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen. Lest your thoughts on this, Jessie, my thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>about anything as far as the NFL and anything health

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<v Speaker 1>related is always always a joke because the NFL and

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<v Speaker 1>its teams and its owners, their bottom their bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>is always about the dollar. It's always about the dollar,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to do every single thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>can to make sure because they already lost money with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff that we have to deal with,

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<v Speaker 1>no fans and things of that nature. So they're never

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<v Speaker 1>going to do anything and what they have to cancel

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<v Speaker 1>game unless someone seriously gets sick and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I private it never happens, or someone is just hospitalized

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<v Speaker 1>because of it or even passed away from it. When

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to that Sunday profit, nothing is above what

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<v Speaker 1>they have to do. And that's the overall NFL. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw this with the whole concussion thing, right, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to tell you that, well, this league, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get caused because of the impact of the head when

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<v Speaker 1>there was doctors upon doctors and science and information that

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, hey, guys, listen, these concussions are because of

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<v Speaker 1>the head content that they were getting while they were

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<v Speaker 1>playing football. And the same time, this right, thank god

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<v Speaker 1>for the movie, But I'm also hearing that that this

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<v Speaker 1>Vince McDonald's he was he was, he said he was

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<v Speaker 1>sick on Friday, And in the COVID world that we

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<v Speaker 1>live in today, anything of that nature, okay, should have

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<v Speaker 1>been looked at and flagged immediately. Oh you're sick. How

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<v Speaker 1>about you not travel? You know, you had one catch

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<v Speaker 1>So was it like you were an integral part in

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<v Speaker 1>our what we were doing, our scheme, So how about

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<v Speaker 1>you don't travel? You know, maybe you should or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>take a separate plane, or hey, maybe you come in

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the morning of the game or whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 1>There should have been extra We're talking about a billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars industry, right, you can charter a plane and get

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<v Speaker 1>him to Pittsburgh to Dallas if that was the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, you you you threw calls them to the wind.

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<v Speaker 1>You put this player on the plane. You not only

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<v Speaker 1>caused your own players to get it, you also potentially

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<v Speaker 1>there's flight attendants there's TSA workers that check your bags

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<v Speaker 1>when you're before you get on your charter to flight. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's restaurant. I mean, there's there's hotel people that you

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<v Speaker 1>may have been in contact with, whether that be at

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<v Speaker 1>the omelet station in the morning when you're getting your

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<v Speaker 1>omelet or the buffet line right when you get right

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Allison, when you get your buffalot. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's so many people that you've now calls and

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<v Speaker 1>no telling what happened when the Cowboys side of things. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>our great producer Chris Beam said, you know, even though

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<v Speaker 1>he had only one catch, you know, don't worry about

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<v Speaker 1>our dvs catching you know, catching it because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>catch anything at all, So they don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about they don't have to worry about catching COVID. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, No you didn't, Chris Hey. But not only that, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>as you as you talk about those extremely important uh

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<v Speaker 1>sack consequences, let's think about just on a lower level. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like, and you know, we will see how

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<v Speaker 1>it goes because the protocol is so screwed up right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems like now their undefeated season is threatened

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<v Speaker 1>a bit because you've got players that have to sit

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<v Speaker 1>out maybe and I don't know about Roethlisberger. They said

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<v Speaker 1>he's not positive. They say he's tested negative like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times since then, so they're trying to get him

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<v Speaker 1>back on the field in five days. Does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>I knew what you should know about this year? The

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<v Speaker 1>news guy that does that mean he will be eligible

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<v Speaker 1>to play next week? Does that five day quarantine? How

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<v Speaker 1>does that affect his playing time for next week? And

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<v Speaker 1>talk about big big Benny Roethlisberger. You know, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great question here because I've seen it very and I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen some guys who had to sit out, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen some like Emmanuel Sanders, And this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where I know from my own fantasy football

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<v Speaker 1>thing where I had him my team and dude didn't play, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>well he's got to sit out? What's star players? What's

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<v Speaker 1>star players? This is this is a good question. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Cam Newton had to sit out. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw Cam had to sit so so that that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great question. Is what happened and Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>had to sit out? When was you know, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like the same situation and he couldn't play. We needed

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<v Speaker 1>him in that game as far as we were concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a star for us Jesson. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. We needed Dalton and we ended up going

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<v Speaker 1>with the news, which you know that could have made

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. So okay, here you're going to ask sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like new he is as well? Okay, protocol, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So here it is. So Roethlisberger did not test positive,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, he will now have to self isolate and

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<v Speaker 1>test negative for five days before he's able to rejoin

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers. So he could be activated from the list

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<v Speaker 1>as early as Saturday and then can play in Sunday's

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Bengals. And oh, by the way, he

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<v Speaker 1>hurt both of his knees against the Steelers, so so

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. So that's it. So he needs a

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<v Speaker 1>test negative every day for the next five days and

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<v Speaker 1>then uh then he could play. So he hurt his

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<v Speaker 1>heart his knees against the Cowboys and so they get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to face the Cincinnati Bengals. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Ever, since we'll see exactly what happens. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>m it is at you didn't get that kind of reprieve.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish he would have gotten that kind of consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the difference was between that and ours.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yes, here's the difference that big Ben. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to figure that out, because boy, we needed

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<v Speaker 1>and Andy that that particular week. We maybe we could

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<v Speaker 1>have pulled it out. You never know. Andy tested positive

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<v Speaker 1>for COPD. That's the difference. Ben did not. That's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. So so he was he was, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that when it called the contact tracing, he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with McDonald and near McDonald. So so there

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<v Speaker 1>he put him in isolation. So now he's just got

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<v Speaker 1>a test negative for five days and then he could

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<v Speaker 1>play he had he didn't not test positive for coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, gentlemen, Rookie cornerback treybod Diggs broke a bone

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<v Speaker 1>in his foot and expected he'll miss the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Everson. You're a former former defensive back. Here

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on Diggs being gone and then how do

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<v Speaker 1>they make up for the rookies absence? In your opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of a shame. We've been looking

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<v Speaker 1>at Digs and talking about the potential that he has.

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<v Speaker 1>When you think about it, he's only really had i'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of what maybe one good game if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call that good, But that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>expect from a rookie. It's gonna be from growing pains

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<v Speaker 1>with him. Just when you saw him making strides. He

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<v Speaker 1>got two interceptions in one game that was amazing that

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<v Speaker 1>you could finally see his ability to play the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get those interceptions, you know it brings you confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like if Jesse is a wide receiver, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what goes on in the game, if you as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you catch that one pass, your confidence is there.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the realization is solid right now. So once he

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<v Speaker 1>saw that he can make those plays, then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, we're like, man, this is the potential we've

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<v Speaker 1>been waiting on. We're hoping that this guy could step

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<v Speaker 1>up and make some more plays for us. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course here comes the injury. I really feel bad for

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<v Speaker 1>the young man because I wanted to see his progress

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<v Speaker 1>continue to get better what I saw what I see now.

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<v Speaker 1>He may be out for the season, with him being

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<v Speaker 1>a young man, if he wants to, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be itching to come back, he may be able

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<v Speaker 1>to come back, whether maybe a game or two left

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<v Speaker 1>in the season. You know, it's hard to keep a

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<v Speaker 1>young man like that out, especially when he's able bodied.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just want him to mentally be prepared for

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna be for him in the future. Sometimes if

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<v Speaker 1>you get to step away from the game, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>to injury or whatever, he can take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>what's been going on with himself and say, okay, he

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<v Speaker 1>can hone in on it, you know, mentally, physically and

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<v Speaker 1>realize what he's been making his mistakes, because as a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie you expect things to develop slowly and so comparatively,

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<v Speaker 1>as his rookie year goes on, he's been developing ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of a rookie. He's pace now. It depends on what

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<v Speaker 1>standards you want to put that rookie pace on. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about nineteen eighty one. I can go

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<v Speaker 1>back to me and my boys, Ronnie lock Kenny easily, myself,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Downs. We didn't have time for growing pains. We

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<v Speaker 1>stepped in, we played our butts off, and we came through.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you have a moniker. If you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a moniker, then obviously you didn't do anything while you

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<v Speaker 1>were in the league. We were Thurm and Steves because

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<v Speaker 1>we would we would. We were thieves. That's just the

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<v Speaker 1>way it was. So the standard back then, I think

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit higher. You had free agents coming

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<v Speaker 1>in balling their butts off, getting criticized. And now we

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<v Speaker 1>have a high ground pick who I still love to

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<v Speaker 1>see play, and the more he gets beat, the more

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<v Speaker 1>potential they say he has. So I'm kind of confused,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna go with it as long as it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make him better. No, I was. My answer was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be right along the lines. How you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ended George was when you're talking about being a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>right second round pick, and he played some high level

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<v Speaker 1>football Alabama in the SEC. But when you come into

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<v Speaker 1>this league there's so much being thrown at you, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's learning to play a book formations. You got all

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<v Speaker 1>pro receivers coming at you every single week, all pro quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>The information upon information is being just piled on top

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<v Speaker 1>of you, and so you're trying to learn, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for a game. Oh my god, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>play Julio Jones this week. I remember watching this guy

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube my whole life. I'm a rookie, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to put all this stuff together. And

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is you begin to drown in some of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, right, and then you don't have Like the

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<v Speaker 1>thing for Diggs is he didn't have one of those

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<v Speaker 1>vets when you can look to your right, look to

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<v Speaker 1>your left, and there's a guy who's been in the

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<v Speaker 1>league for ten years who had something that's to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>rook hold on, relax, chill, look at this and give

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<v Speaker 1>you those little titbits to give you, to give you

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<v Speaker 1>those little tidbits that you can put away and add

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<v Speaker 1>to your game and say, oh, this is what he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about, to sit you down and show you

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<v Speaker 1>how to properly watch film and say, hey, I played

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<v Speaker 1>this quarterback, I played this offensive coordinator, I played this

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<v Speaker 1>team for X amount of years. Here's what they like

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<v Speaker 1>to do in plus forty minus forty and this formation. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>when they get it right here, look for these type

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<v Speaker 1>of combinations. He was doing a lot of learning on

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<v Speaker 1>the fly. He had no one to really look to

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<v Speaker 1>to give him any veteran information to say, hey, what

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<v Speaker 1>do we do right here? And so he would do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it on the fly. And I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>you ever since I would sometimes being based, I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>he got beat three times in the row? Where's it?

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody said, well, he just keeps fighting. I said, fighting

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<v Speaker 1>win your games, right and so, but being able to

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<v Speaker 1>step away from the game, take a deep breath, go

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<v Speaker 1>back and watch your early film, Watch how you progress,

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<v Speaker 1>watch how the season continues to go on, and see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, the second time around you played the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington the football team for Washington, or the second time

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<v Speaker 1>around you play the Giants, or the second time around

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<v Speaker 1>you play Philadelphia. Now you can start seeing like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they were talking about. I was. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so caught up in that preparation for the week. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't catch all the little idio secrecies in the game

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<v Speaker 1>that I can now see from a distance down that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm rehabbing. If I were him, or if I was

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in the Cowboys organization, he's done for the year

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<v Speaker 1>to me peal up because we don't have any more

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<v Speaker 1>to fight for this year. I mean, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying, well, the division is still up in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a good football team. This team isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to go far into the situation into into the

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<v Speaker 1>so to rush a guy back, and we all know

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<v Speaker 1>when those when it comes to receivers. I mean in DBS,

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<v Speaker 1>your feet is what pays you want to be if

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<v Speaker 1>your feet are not good, and whether that's me going

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<v Speaker 1>forward as right, and so I want that thing to

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<v Speaker 1>fully heal so that we don't have any setbacks. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the offician, because I'm training that we get a

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<v Speaker 1>regular offseason, and I need all my guys. If this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a guy that you look at

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty one and beyond, then I need him

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent healthy heading into this so that we

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<v Speaker 1>can evaluate all these guys, put guys on the field

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<v Speaker 1>during OTAs in mini camps so that I can now

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<v Speaker 1>really start implementing things. Then having him have a setback

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<v Speaker 1>in late December in a meaningless game that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>even gonna win, to go to the playoffs or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Now, if you told me you were seventy one,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't no or whatever and we had a realistic chance.

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<v Speaker 1>All let's how to get some of these guys back healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the year, you're not playing

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<v Speaker 1>for anything. I'm not rushing this guy back. Get one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent healthy, take your time getting healthy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want everybody rebbed up and ready to go for the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one off season. To a few things, let

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<v Speaker 1>me let me say something. First of all, you are

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<v Speaker 1>so right, Jesse. I had Charlie Waters just always in

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<v Speaker 1>my ear, giving me confidence, giving me nicknames, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>crazing me. And I'm like, man, this dude is really

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<v Speaker 1>on my job and I needed that, you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, because like you said, things are coming at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis Thurman, you know he was. He was my mentor.

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>He was the guy that kept us together, you know,

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>tell us what to expect and how to feel about

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 1>certain things, because even as a rookie, you don't know

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>how to feel about certain things. And you're right though,

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>in regards to everything coming at him. That's the last

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.159
<v Speaker 1>thing I'm gonna say in regards to Digs is that

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>when you start thinking and start getting intimidated, your brain moves,

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.880
<v Speaker 1>but your feet stop moving, you know, when you start

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 1>thinking too much, when you have fear, when you have doubts.

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>That's the problem with a lot of defensive backs. When

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that ball is in the air, we always say turn around,

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>turn around. Well, they're too busy thinking about the consequences

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:54.640
<v Speaker 1>as opposing to having the heart to just turn around

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and taking a chance of not being afraid to get

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 1>beat at that time. So you're right, the confusion, the fear,

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it, the doubt, it can

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it can affect your play, and hopefully as he steps

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>back from this, as we just said, he can come

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>back a better player. This is why I love having

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys here, former players, giving our viewers and listeners

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and insight into really what goes on the field. That's

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>something I didn't know right there that you and Jesse

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 1>just brought up and said, Hey, having somebody who's been

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 1>there who can tell you basically, I'm not crazy, I'm

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>not as bad as I think I am. And look

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>out for this and look out for that. I mean,

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>that's stuff. That stuff matters. I mean, you know, there's

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 1>nothing like they got toasted too, so they know where

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>you are. They know mentally where you are. We've all

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>been toasted. There are no virgins in the NFL, my brother,

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>all right. Speaking of the future, Garrett Gilbert, a lot

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of Cowboy fans feel like has a future's a potential

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>backup with this team after his performantive performance against the Steelers.

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>But Cowboys owner Hall of Famer Jerry Jones said today

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>on his radio show on wonder Fire three the Fan

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that Andy Dalton is the starting quarterback when they get

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:08.920
<v Speaker 1>back to action. So they got the bye week this week,

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.159
<v Speaker 1>and then they go to Minnesota next to face the

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Vikings up there. Jesse, your thoughts on Andy Dalton becoming

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the starting quarterback with Gilbert being his backup? Now, let

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>me say this first. I know that we work in

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>the media, and we love the sound bites and we

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:30.360
<v Speaker 1>love the ability to write stories on certain things. But

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>this is one of those moments where I just wish,

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're the only team in the league where

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>our owner and our owner's son have radio hits every

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>single week, two or three times a week. Because to me,

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I think Jerry misspoke. I do. I truly think he

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and I get it. He's the owner, can do what

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>he wants, say what he wants. I get it. But

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I truly think he misspoke. There's no reason you have

0:26:59.880 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>to come out and say that today, on a Monday

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>or Tuesday. There's no reason. And I think sometimes just

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>because you have a mic does not mean you have

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to say something into it. And I think Garrett Gilbert

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:16.199
<v Speaker 1>has earned hisself the opportunity to at least and let

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>me compete again. Let me compete this week, you know,

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and when we head to next week for an opportunity

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>to go out there and play again. He is a

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>look the best that we've seen since Dak Prescott has

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>went down at the quarterback position. Now. I know that

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>we may not hear that name much. We hear Andy

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Dalton name more because of it's time in Cincinnati. But

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>but Garrett isn't a rookie. He's been around the league

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and around football for a very long time. And you

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>saw the confidence in command that he had in the

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>game this past Sunday. I didn't like that. I just thought, man,

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm like god lye and I know that you're paying

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton, you know, three million dollars and money matters,

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>and money counts. But if you're trying to put a

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 1>product on the field at this point in time of

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the season, because no one believes you're going to truly

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and honestly compete for a championship if you're he does

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>a realistic but Jesse, he believes that they can win

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the nfcast and as long as they have that opportunity,

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>he believes Andy Dalton gives them the best opportunity to

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 1>do it. So I always said, when I used to

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>do that Jerry Jones radio show, I'm one to five

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>three the fan. You gotta get inside his head, in

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>his head he believes. He'll tell you he's the most

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>optimistic guy. He'll tell you that he lives in the

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>land of what is that word he used the other day,

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>um naivete that's it. So you can say, Jerry, he

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>has to and he has. That's where he signs a

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of checks every single week to make sure that

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>those guys are competitive on the field. So he has

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to live in that land. I don't have to live

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>in that land. Hell, he signs my checks too, so

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to live in that land. I don't

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>have to live in that land. He does. I get it.

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>As someone who's a business owner, I get you gotta

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>be optimistic, you gotta be always positive for your product.

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>But I just I just think that particular time's timing.

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't if that's what you truly believe, don't say

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>it today. You know, let the process play out because

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you I just think when people are gonna start looking

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>around and saying, we saw what we had with Garrett Gilbert,

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and we saw it, we have Andy Dalton. I probably

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>would watch more to see round two of Garrett Gilbert

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>than I want to see round two of Andy Dalton.

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I think Andy, Andy gave us a win though Jesse, right,

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean he came in as a reliever, right,

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>yes he did, but he but he gave us a win.

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think, and I get it, Jesse where you're

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>coming from. I do. When you look at this NFC east, uh,

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you see nothing but futility. But at the same time,

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that's what's given Jerry pause to say, hey, we're not

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>out of this yet. No matter how much we suck,

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>we are still in this. But it is Andy a

0:29:56.400 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>better option? That's the question? Is Andy a better option?

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I still would side with the track that we were on, Garrett,

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Gilbert was off the rails in regards to our plans.

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Did very well. And like you said, this guy's almost

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>thirty years old. It might be thirty, so he's had

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:22.239
<v Speaker 1>professional experience and he showed that in the ballgame. But

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at if I'm gonna look at Andy Dalton

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>versus Gilbert Garrett, I'm sorry, I gotta go with Andy,

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>not just as an owner, but even if I'm a teammate,

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, Okay, Andy, we got sidetracked because you

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.479
<v Speaker 1>got COVID. Let's continue this track that we're on and

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>see if we can do something with it, because we're

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>still in it. Only because the NFC East is so bad.

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>If this was any other division, Jesse, Andy's on the bench,

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm resting uh digs even if he's ready

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>in December. I get all of that. But this is

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>such a unique situation to where the division winner might

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>have five wins. Bro five wins, we can get to

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>five wins, that is a question. You got, you got,

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you got, you got seven more games. We got the Giants,

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>we got, we got Philly. Still we you know, it's

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>still like it's still the NFC East. So you have

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to say not just yet. I'm you know, if it

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>was any other division, any other season, I'm with you, Jesse,

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>but I just can't give up right now, especially when

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>forget that, forget the game after uh when when after

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the Giants game. He played well in the Giants game.

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see him with a weaker preparation again,

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>with a better defense, with this new defense, and with

0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>this special teams that seems to be waking up and saying, hey,

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>we're part of this team as well. We're that third

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.959
<v Speaker 1>fast of the game, but we're no less important than

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the other two fastt So you have that mentality right now,

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>go into the locker room, Jesse. That defense was fired up.

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me add this quick little tibit. I

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>know we gotta go to break quick little tidbit. Does

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton have a short leash? No? No, No, I

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Okay no. If that's the case, everybody's on

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the short lease? Yeah, I would have to do. Is

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that you saying no, too knew it? Yes, I here's

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>my thing on on Andy Dalton and that we debated

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>this yesterday because Barry Church was also with Jesse saying

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>playing Garrett Gilbert until they're out of this. Andy Daltons

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be the guy once they're out of this.

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Then in December, you know, because I think that's what

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>it'll be decided for the Cowboys in December, then you'll

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and go at Garrett Gilbert because by December,

0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>then again, you know, when you're out of it, let's

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and all the games. And I think that's

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>exactly what they'll do. But I think Andy Dalton as

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>long as they're in this, the Jones family wants to

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>see Andy Dalton out there, and Mike McCarthy has said

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>such as well. They want to have the best opportunity

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to win. Andy's experience in the league they feel like

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>gives them that. Let's head to break here. Um, I

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>want to answer something that the Jesse said about Jerry

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and Stephen having radio shows, and I'll compare it a

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit to something he's grown up with and we'll

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>dive into a coaching question. Jerry and Stephen have radio show.

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.720
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<v Speaker 1>reporter joined by two former Dallas Cowboys got Jesse Holley

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<v Speaker 1>in here in Everson Walls. Jesse, you grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>that Tri state area? Were you a Yankees or a

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<v Speaker 1>Mets fan? Yankees? Okay? This is perfect because one of

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Jones' best friends in the industry was the late

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<v Speaker 1>George Steinbrenners. And you know George Steinbrenner. While he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him all the time, and he was always

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<v Speaker 1>forever talking. And I read the book The Yankee Years

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<v Speaker 1>by Tom Verducci, and Joone talked about how he understood

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<v Speaker 1>what he got into and knowing that the boss was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say one thing over here, but how he dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with his players in the clubhouse was a whole different thing.

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>And for me, Mike McCarthy, you signed up for this.

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, Jerry Jones talks on Tuesdays at eight thirty one,

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 1>one oh five three to fan a, Sean and r J.

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>And he talks on Fridays at ten thirty. Okay, because

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I used to do that ten thirty Friday show with

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Jones, and you know Stephen talks on Monday. All right,

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>this is what these guys do. They talk. So you

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>got three times a week where you're going to hear

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>from ownership in basketball, Mark Cuban before they changed the

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>rules and they used had the StairMaster back there in

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>the mask locker room where we could all go back

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>there as media members. We would all go to Mark

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>who'd be on that StairMaster at about six six oh five,

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and we would all get our pregame interviews from the

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>owner of the Mavericks. This is good for us in

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the media, but I have no sympathy for any coach

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 1>who comes in here because you know what you signed

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>up for. Jerry Jones not only has a radio, he

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.959
<v Speaker 1>used to have his own TV show was called Special Edition.

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean that, I mean Jerry on TV man. Jimmy

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Johnson survived it. He won two Super Bowls with it.

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>It just is what it is. This is why you're

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>in the big top bill parcels. He dealt with it

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 1>in won games. I mean, Mike McCarthy, go, hey, win

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>some games. You're going to have to deal with it.

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 1>It was one time before you got to the Cowboys, Jesse.

0:37:56.280 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember it was a player that we in the media,

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>we're asking Wade Phillips about and Way about signing and Way.

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>It was like, well, we don't know where we're gonna do.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>We may sign and we may not. We're like, Jerry

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>already told you signed it, and Wade just kind of

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>went like this, Okay, wherever Jerry said, wherever Jerry said,

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and that just is what it is. Nobody handled it

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>better than Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett knew what it was.

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>The Jones family talking comes with the meal and they

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 1>may say one thing and you're trying to keep something

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 1>under wraps and they may blow it out there. But

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>this is what you signed up for. So for Mike

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy and you know, saying, hey, why do you have

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to why do you have to go out and tell everybody?

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Andy Daltons, this is what they do. This is what

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>they do. Okay, they want you to talk about the Cowboys.

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>They like the attention of it, and this is what

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it is. And I'm okay with it because I'm selfish

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and i want to know because the coaches don't give

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.800
<v Speaker 1>me anything. You got Mike McCarthy acting like he's some

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>hockey coach. You don't want to tell nobody anything. You

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.240
<v Speaker 1>got a leg injury. We have stories, you have stories

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to writing, stories to tell, and you know what, I

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 1>want to truth. When I want the truth, I go

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.919
<v Speaker 1>to Jerry. Okay. It's like it's like Will Smith said,

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>tell the truth. Okay, Jerry's gonna tell me the truth.

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>These coaches don't tell me anything. So that's why I

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>love doing the Jerry Jones So we want I want

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the truth, and Jerry Jones don't give it to me. Stephen,

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>not too much, but you know I have I begged

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the different just a bit. Jerry's gonna tell you Jerry's truth,

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes Jerry's truth is not necessarily what's going on

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>inside the locker room. And you know, Jerry's on the team.

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Jerry owns the team. He owns them the most amazing

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>UH sports business in the world. But we all know

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that before Jerry became famous and rich, Jerry seemed like

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>he was selling snake oil. You know, he would be

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:51.760
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys. Everything's out o this. Every every

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>potion is gonna make you better at sex, better at

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>at eating, better at everything. You know that's that's the way,

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you kind of look at him. So he's

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna put a cherry on top of everything. So listen

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 1>to Jerry. That may not necessarily mean that you're gonna

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>get the truth. You might just be more entertained than

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 1>you might get accuracy. Ever since, he wears two hats,

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>and I've always said this about Jerry, this has been

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>an interesting dynamic. He wears two hats, and I want

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're a sports fan, you want the

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>owner of the team to be excited. You want him

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to be optimistic and always looking at how things can

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>get better. But I want my general manager to be pessimistic.

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I want my general manager to say the glass is

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>half empty, the water is dirty, and we probably need

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>to change everything. The issue becomes the general manager and

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the owner or the same guy and that. But at

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the same time, from a media standpoint, that has always

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that has been a part of the fun of this.

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is what's made the Cowboys so interesting

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that their own NBC three times the maximum three times

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>every year. You just saw they were playing the game

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 1>of the national Game of the week with TVA. But

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>even when the Cowboys aren't good. People are still talking

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>about the cowboys. And this is what Jerry Jones has built.

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:10.919
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that I learned by doing

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that radio show with him, Everson, Jerry's always been in

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>business for himself. So you know, from selling insurance to

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>being a Shaky's Pizza franchise owner, Jerry's always been hustling.

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Jerry's always been selling hope and he and that hasn't changed, man.

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>So that is what he's going to do. So when

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about let's go Andy Dall's gotta be there.

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:32.800
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be our guy. We can still win this division.

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a slim chance. That's Jerry. Jerry got Marguerite is

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 1>to sell. Okay, got he got, He got sharts to sell.

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>He's trying to get you, Everson, to buy your grandkids.

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Always got fifteen dollars. He has fifteen dollars Hamburgers to sell. Yes,

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not there. But the problem you have when you

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>have an owner that creates this this situation that, for

0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>lack of a better term, sometimes you have crap rolling

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 1>down hill and it's all sound rosy coming out of

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Jerry's mouth, but by the time things get to be downhill,

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 1>it just turns into a bunch of crowd. And here's

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. If you don't have a product on

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that field that's going to resemble anything close to your optimism,

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, whether you're looking at on

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the field, as far as your team is concerned, it's

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>not anything positive. They're gonna come up with all types

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of accidis to talk about just how bad your team is,

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 1>even if they didn't play as bad as they say

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>because of the optimism that was raining down on them.

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:45.399
<v Speaker 1>We're all in our seats, We're ready for it. Here

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>it comes. Jerry said, it's gonna be true. I'm gonna

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>believe in the Cowboy majesty in the height. And then

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 1>you see what we see, say against the Cardinals, you

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>see what we saw against the Red Skin, I'm sorry,

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>against the Washington football team. And then all of a

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 1>sudden you have over the top criticism, which can really

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 1>affect everything that you're trying to build. Newie, So you

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>gotta think about that. Sometimes sometimes reality is the best

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>medicine for a team like the Cowboys. And I'm telling you,

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you something how it affects the locker room

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>when you have a guy like, you know, the owner

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and the general manager. And I saw this from my

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>own perspective when I was there done under the way

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and Jason Garrett error. When there is a level of hierarchy,

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and I mean the guys who are worth the money,

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the big contract guys, the guys who are on have

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the jerseys and the stores, and they have the plaquers

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 1>and they have the giant sized faces on the side

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of the stadium. Those guys are handled by Jerry and

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 1>then it's all the rest of us that are handled

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>by Garrett or Wade or Mike McCarthy. And so then

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:06.919
<v Speaker 1>it begins that it begins that fight of these guys knowing, man,

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>that's coach can't do nothing to me because I answer

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to the guy upstairs. I don't mean I don't mean

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ. I mean the other guy upstairs. Yeah, Halo

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 1>lower down, but that other guy. And so now this

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.320
<v Speaker 1>is when you tre talking about how does it affect

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>on the field, because you have guys who are on

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 1>the field who know that no matter what that coaches say,

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that I'm tied in to the other guy, and that

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>guy will determine whether I'm here or not not this

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.839
<v Speaker 1>guy who was calling the shots from the sideline. And

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and that sometimes can affect a play on the field

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>because guys who probably shouldn't be on the field maybe

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>should have left time on the field. But because they

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 1>have the contract that they have, they're dealt with differently

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and by different people. I remember one time it was

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Felix Jones, and Felix Jones had like fumbled in a

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 1>couple of games, and Jason Garrett was like, you know

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 1>guys who fumbling games, you know that don't pay the consequences.

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:06.879
<v Speaker 1>We might not start him in the game. He said this,

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 1>and then they caught Jerry five minutes later and said

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Philix Jones will be the starting running back for US

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>next week. So, as a player in the locker room,

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:15.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there looking like, well, who do I believe?

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Do I believe the guy who said Philip Jones is

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna sit coming out of the game. I'm gonna guy.

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I know who to believe, I know who to believe.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>But but you see how that you see how that

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>can be a sticky situation for guys in the locker room.

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking around and saying, well, I heard that report

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and I heard that report. Now let's see what's going

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:33.959
<v Speaker 1>to happen this week in practice. And then you see

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Philix Jones starting the next game, you go, oh, I

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>know who I know who really called the shots here

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and there. So that's something of dynama that can sometimes

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>can mess up a locker room because you know the

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>difference between who says who, who does what. Jesse, Here's

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>here's two things I'll respond to you on that. Number one,

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I never ever ever felt bad for Jason Garrett when

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:59.280
<v Speaker 1>those situations happened. Because Jason Garrett knew what he signed

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 1>up for. He could have taken a job as a

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>head coach in the Atlanta Falcons would an owner like

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Arthur Blank who to let him do what he wanted

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to do. But he said no to that. He said

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>not to Steve A. Schotti, another owner who let him

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>do whatever he wanted to do, but he said no,

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll stay here as the offensive coordinator. Make it as

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 1>much money as way. Phil, So you got what you

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>signed up for, and yes, you are right. There are

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 1>players that know Troitman didn't like Chan. Dailey didn't want

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to run chainl again his offensive Guess who got got Chan?

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Gaily so yes, you are right. This is how it

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>works here. But this is also how everybody who comes

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>in here you get. Mike McCarthy knows the way it

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>goes here. Okay, Jerry's been here thirty years now, thirty years.

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>It is what it is. You can like it, you

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 1>can dislike it, but you know what it is. And

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 1>for me, I would rather know where I stand and

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>know the way things are for things that just to

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 1>not never know. You know, Jerry's gonna want what Jerry wants.

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 1>And Jerry loves us. He loves the style. He likes

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys to be big, he likes the Cowboys to

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.359
<v Speaker 1>be in the news. This is how he's operating. How

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the coach of teams KNEWI And that's what matters. Man.

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 1>You still gotta be able to coach the team. And

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that might be good for the media and and and

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>just really interesting for all of us, But when you're

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to put a winning product on the field, you

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta let your coach coach, and you know, and sometimes

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you gotta know when to be quiet and what not

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to say. There are times when you have to be

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 1>in Unison as a as an organization in Unison, your

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 1>coach has to he's got enough problems. You gotta deal

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>with all these guys in the locker room. Now, he

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.880
<v Speaker 1>has to deal with this, deal with the media, these

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>confusing things here. We just talked about it. It's like,

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:44.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get I'm not gonna give him

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the former president. I'm not gonna give him that. He's

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 1>much better than that. But it's just a it's a

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>chaotic situation when you have different information coming from the

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.320
<v Speaker 1>same organization. So as a player like Jesse was saying,

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, who's calling the plays, who's calling the shots?

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.240
<v Speaker 1>And we know who's calling the shots in one way,

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 1>but we gotta have somebody on this field, on this

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 1>sideline that I can look to other than the player

0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:18.800
<v Speaker 1>who knows what's going on. And I'll say this in

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<v Speaker 1>closing for this topic. If I'm a player and I

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<v Speaker 1>really like what I saw in and Garrett Gilbert in

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<v Speaker 1>that game, and I feel like, you know what I fellas,

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<v Speaker 1>we get we get Garret Gilbert again, let's let's just

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<v Speaker 1>try to put this together. And then you hear, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't get Garret Gilbert next week. Like that affects

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<v Speaker 1>me as a player because I may have really liked

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.920
<v Speaker 1>what this quarterback was doing. If I'm a receiver, I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this looks much better than what I had with Andy Dalton.

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<v Speaker 1>And then now I got to realize we back to

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton again. That could bring down my spirit in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I prepare and mentally, physically emotional. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>start start a quarterback controversy like we did back in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties. Man, that's all you gotta do. That's all

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do. Just go to the paper like we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Just start the quarterback controversy. That's all you got. Garrett Gilbert,

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<v Speaker 1>the Gary hogeboom of the Cowboys. All right, ay, fellas,

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<v Speaker 1>this was fun. We didn't even get to the other topics.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to the coaching topic tomorrow. Here. Everson Walls

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesse Holly will be with me tomorrow. So one

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<v Speaker 1>more day of having more former Cowboys bringing some insights. Fellas,

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<v Speaker 1>this was fun. I appreciated. Everybody. Make sure you tell

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<v Speaker 1>friends about this, about this show. It's normally the players

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<v Speaker 1>louds with with Barry Church and Danny mccraib, but they're

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 1>on some other shows. We're kind of mixing things up.

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<v Speaker 1>And having some fun. We'll talk to everybody tomorrow at

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty Central. All right, fellas, take care, everybody, go Cowboys.

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