1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: toilet dealers. Kimerner went alongside JV. Long and DeMarco far 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams picking up the big win over 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions as they get set for a massive 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Thursday night football showdown with the Seattle Seahawks Division on 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: the line, potentially the conference on the line. Guys, it 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: doesn't get much bigger and much better than this. Are 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: we just gonna revel in this moment for. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah, I mean, I hope it gets 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: a little bit bigger and better. But I mean this is, like, 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: like you said, the most important two weeks of this 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: football season. You got through one versus Detroit that just 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: refused to go away, and you got another one in 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: Seattle with a team that feels the same way. They 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: think that this is their year. So this is tough. 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: But I like what the Rams keep saying about themselves. 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: They are built for this and they are playing some 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: of their best ball on both sides right now, so 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: this might be the best time for the matchup. It's 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: a short week, but it is what it is. Gotta 21 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: come hard down the hard road. 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: My two favorite things in sports have become the NFL playoffs. 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: Just the win or go home dynamic is irreplaceable, but 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: very very close. One B is this time of year 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: where you have a couple games left on your runway 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: and you can game out not only your own team's path, 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 3: but you can scoreboard, watch and feel you know, those 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: playoff simulators in real time. This is unbelievable and DeMarco 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: has I have not ever been a part of really 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: a chase for a one seed or the opportunity to 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: be a one seed, and especially since we revamp this 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: playoff format, I can't I still can't wrap my mind 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: around how valuable it is to be the one seed, 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: Like this is a prize worth straining for. Forget the 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 3: Seahawks and what that all matters. That's just a rivalry 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: game onto itself that we'll talk about. 37 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: But is it real? 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: Is it true that if you are the one seed 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: you only have to win one home game to then 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: host the NFC Championship game? Like, even as I say 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: that it doesn't feel real. 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: It's true. First hand knowledge had of. 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: My follow up is you guys were both on the 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: field this Sunday. I'm up in the booth and I 45 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: got these noisecam Yeah, how raucous was that? And is 46 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: that not an environment and a home field advantage worth replicating? 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 2: In January, that was one of the loudest like home environments, 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: just football environments, that I've been in a long time. 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it was right at the proper moments, at moments, 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: and it was deafening. I thought it was awesome by 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: you guys to lay out and let the crowd kind 52 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: of bleed in because they were doing their part. It 53 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: was great. They were up for big plays, they were 54 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 2: up for third downs. When the game kind of got 55 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: away from the rams, they willed them back into it. 56 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: So that environment was absolutely outstanding. But here's the thing. 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: It's only going to get louder and bigger from here 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: if you keep winning. 59 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: How about when Dan Campbell in a trailing position has 60 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: to burn a time out on offense. 61 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 5: Oh, it's amazing, and. 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: I emphasized in a trailing position, because if he has 63 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: that third time out, the end of that game plays 64 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: out differently. So game ball to the home crowd at 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: SOFI Stadium to rip away one of those timeouts before 66 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: crunch time from the opposing head. 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: Coach, we go absolutely game. 68 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: Ball without question. 69 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: And I will say too, I have double in ears 70 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: on game days. I legitimately heading into the third quarter 71 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: and even more so into the fourth quarter, I took 72 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: out my double in ears because I just wanted to 73 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: immerse myself and just soak it all in. It was 74 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: one of the best game day environments my fifth season 75 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: with the Rams, and it was top tier, maybe top 76 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: three that I've experienced. The noise level was superb, Your 77 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: call was amazing. I love that you got a chance. 78 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: Even as a fan not sitting in the stands, you 79 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: really had quite the understanding of what is being built 80 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: and the community and the team that is being built. 81 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: It was just a thing of beauty. And I will 82 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: also say I had some insider insight. Some of my 83 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: stage managers were actually in the tunnel just leading up 84 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: as the guys are getting ready to come onto the field, 85 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: and one of the things they said is, we've never 86 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: seen this team this hyped before they were ready to go, 87 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: and we can, of course, we can dig into the performance. 88 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: In the first half. 89 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: However, that tells me a lot as we are heading 90 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: into the late stages of December football and of course 91 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: the playoff run. 92 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 5: But that one definitely means. 93 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: It meant a little bit more, especially just considering the context. 94 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: I love that when they always felt like a pent 95 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: up bowl just opened the door so we can get out. 96 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: And that's the way it felt. When Stafford came out 97 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: and did that little twitch. You just kind of know 98 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: when he's feeling like that, everybody else is going with him. So, yeah, 99 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: that's the environment you want to be in. 100 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: I'm still stuck on this. If the Rams are the 101 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: one seed, all they have to do is beat the 102 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: lowest remaining seed at Sofi Stadium to host the NFC 103 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: Championship games. That's true for the right to go play 104 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: Super Bowl in Santa Clara. 105 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: Yes, man, this is special. 106 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 5: There's a lot at stake here. 107 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: This in You got a lot at stake. This is 108 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: the thing you got to keep your mind when all 109 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: about your are losing theirs. It's on Seattle. But you're right, 110 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: I'll tell you man, it's a luxury to go into 111 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: the post season with that week off. Now, I told 112 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: you the other side of that is when you do 113 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: match up with someone, they're guaranteed to be good, maybe 114 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: even as good as you are. That's the downside. But 115 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: you get the benefit of rest when you know and 116 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: you've got it locked up. It's not that you hit 117 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 2: cruise control, but you can hit cruise control and watch 118 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: everybody out go play the Hunger Games. It helps. I mean, 119 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: it really does. It's the one seed in the NFL. 120 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: Like you said, it's everything if you have designs on 121 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: becoming champion. 122 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: You talked to Quintin Lake after that win Sunday. 123 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Funny saw him right in the locker 124 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: room and first thing, hou's the arms? Great? How are 125 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: you feeling about this? Everybody's you fork right or getting 126 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: ready for Seattle? He goes, I'll see you in January. Perfect. 127 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: I mean that playoff ticket means more to him than 128 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: I think anyone else. He knows he gets to play 129 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: again this season. Now he does nowhere he doesn't know 130 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: the opponent, but like just punching that ticket, which no 131 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: one's taking for granted, but what we all thought it 132 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 3: was coming right. 133 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, now that it's official, he has something to aim for. Man, 134 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 4: that's awesome. 135 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: God, that's so important. 136 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: Yes, DeVante Adams has a bad wheel, like Tyler Higbee, 137 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: not back yet, and so get this roster in its 138 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: best form to January. Maybe with an extra week off. 139 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: That's even more critical. 140 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: I mean, and you're indoors at home, that's true, Like 141 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 3: this could be the last bad weather game you play. 142 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: You got to go in the red at least one 143 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 4: more time, and it could. 144 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 5: Be raining in Seattle. 145 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: Let me knock on Seattle, Seattle, Seattle, Thursday, Thursday. 146 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: You've got a team that can go from down ten 147 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: to up ten like that? Can you do that at 148 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: Soldier Field in Chicago? Can you do that at lambeau 149 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 3: Field in Green Bay? 150 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: Maybe? Maybe not? You can do that in your own. 151 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: Part, definitely. You can do that here in a. 152 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: Near climate controlled environment. That can happen because of what 153 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: you're capable of offering. 154 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: Can you take us to Seattle? He's getting me. 155 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: See, it's about doubling down on the magnitude because the 156 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: loser of this game, the loser of this game in 157 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: all likelihood, is going to be a road wildcards. 158 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 5: Yep, without question. 159 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: You know I love that you put that out there. 160 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: I really do. And I'm sure that's being conveyed or 161 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: you probably don't even need to tell the guys, but 162 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: all you know from here, and I just remember, if 163 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: you just keep winning, great things are gonna happen, you 164 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: know what I mean. If you keep searching for your 165 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: best football game, good things will happen. This team is 166 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: very very good, possibly great. The one thing I think 167 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: that could creep in is, like you said, is the 168 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: outside end. So that's what I mean. I'm joking, but 169 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm not. It's you got to go focus on Seattle. 170 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: That is going to be a fight to the finish. 171 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: And you know they feel the same way we do. 172 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: You know up there they feel like they've got a 173 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: shout at it too. That's the problem when you get 174 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: to this part of the season, when there's, like you said, 175 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: four or five vultures out there, all gunning for the 176 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: same spot, it ain't over. 177 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 4: Did their head coach have a baby this week? 178 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. 179 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: That's not that I'm aware of. 180 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 5: That's a pretty big transaction too. I loved it. The 181 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 5: Rams put it out this morning. 182 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: So congratulations to Sean and Ronica Christian Alexander McVay as 183 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: actually been delivered what. 184 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: It's a great nickname, sure or Aaron one or the 185 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: other Colby Colby. 186 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: Guys, Let's look a little bit to Detroit because what 187 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: we can garner from this last week and also prepare 188 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: us for Seattle. So one of the things that stood 189 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: out to me was just the amount of balance. And 190 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: we've seen it throughout the season. But we talk about 191 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and even the MVP campaign that he. 192 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: Has been on. 193 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: But I think what's really impressed me the most throughout 194 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: this season is he's found different evolutions and different ways 195 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: to win. And I think this last week was a 196 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: great example, and he might have to find a different 197 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: evolution even now against Seattle on this Thursday night football. 198 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: Of course, considering whether Davante's out there or not. 199 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 2: That's that's a good point, it really is. And uh, 200 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: you know, I just I think of how he went 201 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: down and if he makes it back for Thursday, my 202 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: respect for him is here. It would go to there 203 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: because I know a hamstrings can be but there are 204 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: guys that can step up in his stead, and you 205 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: can split that up into three guys. He's got speed 206 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: to burn that sounds like two too. He's very physical 207 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: in the run game. Well that could be Jaywitz and 208 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: if you need somebody to rout you up. I'm ready 209 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: to see more of Mumfield. There's just no place to 210 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: put him in the offense because you've got two great 211 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: receivers out there. But you saw that incompletion, how athletic 212 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: he is, you see him in practice, you know there's 213 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: there's more there. So there are guys that can step up. 214 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: And like you said, with innovation and growing the offense, 215 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: I look at it more as people and and who's 216 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: doing it. Kobe Parkinson is on a whole new level, 217 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: completely different guy from last year. He's an absolute weapon 218 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: in this in this offense, it's it's a weapon that 219 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: you have to game plan for. It's not something that oh, 220 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: we'll just worry about the tight end on game. They 221 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: will take care of that. No, you're gonna have to 222 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: draw stuff up and figure out who's on him because 223 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: if he catches it in the open field versus a 224 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: smaller safety or whatnot, you've got issues that might not 225 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: this week. Have small safety that might not apply this week. 226 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying Detroit in. 227 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: The secondary, I will see the biggest contrast week to week. 228 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: I love when you do the video game analogy. What's 229 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 3: the what's the final stage, the boss mode, the final boss, 230 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: the final boss. Yes, yes, let's face it. Going back 231 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: to last week, against that Detroit defense with DeVante matthew 232 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: is playing. 233 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: The opening level with a cheat code. 234 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, now you go to the final round 235 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 3: and the cheat code is probably taking off the table. 236 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to earn it. Yeah, you're gonna have to. 237 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: Miss of the first offensive day of the season. 238 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 4: Anybody remember what it was. 239 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: I believe it was the Seahawks. That's right. Yes, Uh, 240 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: they're smart, they're good. They they have an edge. I 241 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 2: think they have a lot of edge because of who 242 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: the middle linebacker is. It means a lot more to him. 243 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: They're good, period, and they go to a different level 244 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: when they see you right now or they did, so 245 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to match that energy. I don't think 246 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna get guys Scott free to the quarterback going forward, 247 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: and I don't think you're gonna get wide open space 248 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: like you have. You're gonna have to go through or 249 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: drag people, you know what I mean to make it happen. 250 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: That's just how it looked, and that's just the complexion 251 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: of this game. 252 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: You know that Colby can set a single season Rams 253 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: tight end record for receiving touchdowns. 254 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: What's the record? 255 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 5: He's six right now. Yeah, six since Week ten. 256 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 4: In Seattle against his former team. 257 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: Anyways, I would not be surprised by that. I wouldn't 258 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: be surprised if he did. I guess I'm a little 259 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: surprised about how much better he's gotten from year one 260 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: to year two. It could be a position change and 261 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: you're playing him where he likes to be played and 262 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: he's given it to you. But whatever it is, he 263 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: has become a thing, a weapon for Matthew status. 264 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: I don't even think. I don't even think. I start 265 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: with the receiving numbers walking. I think the way the 266 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: Rams are running the rock right now is the most 267 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: important dimension going into Thursday night, and I think the 268 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: tiight ends are a big part of that. 269 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: I absolutely love watching. I would hate to play against 270 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: Davis Allen. He's the type of dude that I would 271 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: fight or talk trash too, because he don't mind hitting you. 272 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: He loves to block when they motion him in and 273 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: he runs up on the inside linebacker. That's not an 274 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 2: h BAC a guy that doesn't want to hit. He's 275 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: a former defensive end who likes to use his head. 276 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: He likes to block, and the O line is doing 277 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: a great job behind him, and the running backs are 278 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: doing a great job reading their keys and getting out 279 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 2: and breaking off some long runs. I'm with you, man, 280 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: like it's not just a passing game. As a defense, 281 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: you have to commit that eighth guy to the box. 282 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: If not, the Rams are really good at running at 283 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: and exploiting light boxes. And if once you do, it 284 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: opens you up for everything else. So this offense is 285 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: diversified and it just keeps you on your heels constantly 286 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: as a defense. 287 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: Except McDonald and the Seahawks don't play by those rules. 288 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: This is true. When you can get after people with 289 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: four it makes defense a lot easier, and they did. 290 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: I will say I watched the Colts matchup versus the 291 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks yesterday and one of the things that stood out 292 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: is the Colts did have some success kind of hitting 293 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: some of those exterior gaps, so that might be a 294 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: point of success. And also just thinking about Blake corm 295 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: some of the moves he made. He actually two massive 296 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: explosive runs against Detroit. Where you're going, man, he found 297 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: beautiful edge, a little side step and then on the exterior, 298 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm going he could be a weapon. Not to mention, 299 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: we got to give Blake corm a little bit of love. 300 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: Third straight game now with seventy or more yards, four 301 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: touchdowns in that span. We talk so much about Kien 302 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: Williams and Kien Williams, and rightly so, obviously coming off 303 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: another one thousand yard season now his third consecutive. But 304 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: that run game the Titans, it's all emerging together. Let's 305 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about one titand though t 306 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: ferg and you talked to Les Sneed yesterday about it. 307 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: He could have what two massive explosive plays go his 308 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: direction against Detroit that didn't quite connect. Is this the 309 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: game that he can really differentiate himself. 310 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: It's a much more difficult matchup When you talk about 311 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: replacing Davonte Adams. I think he's a component of it. Yea, 312 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: Like they really trust the apprentice, like Canate Momfield, I'm 313 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: telling you, is one to watch. Everyone in this building 314 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: says that the Day three pick has a lot of 315 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 3: similarities with Devonte Adams of future Hall of Famer, which 316 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: is hard to believe. But I will say the only 317 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 3: silver lining of DeVante missing any time is he's already 318 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: playing career low snap count, so you're already diversified enough 319 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 3: in your personnel groupings where you know you platune him 320 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: in and out. And I think on a down to 321 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: down basis, the Rams could be okay. Not Wilby could 322 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 3: be okay. I just don't know when the field gets 323 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: short and you're going up against this defense, I don't 324 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: know how that plays. Because you've been the most improved 325 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: red zone offense in the game because of Davante Adams 326 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: and because of this newfound tight end identity. Now these 327 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, it's not just been Davonte here. 328 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: Three tight ends there. How do you solve for it? 329 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: We've seen Pooka in the mix now, and Colby Parkinson 330 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: said that that's their fourteen personnel look right like Puka 331 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: is an honorary tight end. And when you see the 332 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: attention that he draws, just like Amen Ross Saint Brown 333 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: out of a backfield position that Kyen Williams can just 334 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: sloalo them through untouched for an easy walk in touchdown. 335 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: Seattle's not going to give you that. But I do 336 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: think as a one week replacement value for a Davonte 337 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: cheek coo, I think the Rams have more in their 338 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: toolkit than anyone would have expected. 339 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: This time of year. 340 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: I totally agree, totally, one percent agree. I think running 341 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: the football with Puka in there is going to be 342 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: something to pay attention to. We said this before the 343 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: game by Lander Barci. Puka's gonna get it at some point, 344 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: so I think he's gonna become more of a weapon. 345 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: But these running backs and the way they're doing it, 346 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: it's funny how you have a one to two punch. 347 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: There's no labels anymore, there's no starter, They're the same. 348 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: It's just one guy goes out before the other. They 349 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: used to make sense. It used to be. 350 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: Even if I'm seeing him from like two hundred yards away, Yeah, 351 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: it's like if it's bright yellow cleats, okay, that's Kiren, 352 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: and if it's the black old school cleats, that's Blake, 353 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: same thing. What happened to that? I can't even tell 354 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: him apart any binocular. 355 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm so mad. I did not know this that Sonic 356 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: and Knuckles were somebody you guys were talking about Detroit's 357 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: running in Montgomery. It actually fits these two, you know 358 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: what I mean, They're the same. They're little rolling balls 359 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: of books. But either way, just moving the ball up 360 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: the field. Like you said, the way they're blocking, especially 361 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: with thirteen or fourteen personnel, the way they're going to 362 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: get guys and everybody committing to blocking in the run game. 363 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: As a defense, you have no choice but to commit 364 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: the extra guy. And that's what they're waiting on. That's 365 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: what Stafford is waiting on. As soon as he see 366 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: you creeping, the ball goes out beyond you. It seems 367 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: like magic. It's not. It's just that's the effect of 368 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: a good running game. 369 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: The explosives are definitely worth highlighting and celebrating because it 370 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: was the narrative of the offseason. Can the Rams go 371 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: from the least explosive running game in the league to 372 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: actually threatening some defenses with their ground game? So the 373 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: fact that both Kyen and Blake are doing that is 374 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: worthy of discussion. But to me, the most important thing 375 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: that happened Sunday against the Lines and has happened all 376 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: season is first down and ten. 377 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 4: You get six. 378 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: Because if you give this quarterback and this staff offensively 379 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: second down and. 380 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: Four, you're dead. 381 00:16:59,400 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: It's over. 382 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: It's over. But Seattle didn't give that up. Go look 383 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: at the second down distances against Seattle in the previous game. 384 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: That wasn't happening. 385 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: That's respect. 386 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 5: Yes, it is one other area. You guys talked about explosives, 387 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 5: and it's something just to note. I noticed. 388 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: I went back and looked at some of Puka's numbers, 389 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: even from a season ago, because he ripped off massive 390 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: chunks against the Lions thirty nine, thirty seven, thirty six, 391 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: and twenty to. 392 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 5: A career high one eighty one. 393 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: And I know we can gush over Puka Dikua time 394 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: and time again, but he's actually upped by a yard 395 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: per catch his average over last season's over Pukka. 396 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 4: Let's spend five to ten minutes talking about poo. He 397 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 4: deserves it. 398 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 3: Why is why is he not the consensus offensive player 399 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: of the year right now? 400 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba, Well. 401 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: Let's change that. 402 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say we can do that Thursday night. 403 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: That's the only problem that when you when you look 404 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: for Puka, the only thing that's above him is that name. 405 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: And this is funny. We talked about or you and 406 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: I talked about the bat middle linebacker. Well there's a 407 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: batlet for who's the best, and you get to see 408 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: both of them coming up soon. Puka is unreal. He 409 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: is playing on a different level. Uh, he's a fighter 410 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: pilot right now. And I would say feed that. I 411 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: would I feed that because I don't think there's a 412 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: guy that he can't route up. I don't think there's 413 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: a corner or safety that wants to tackle him in 414 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: the open field. And you said this before, and I 415 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: love how you put it. I would see how many 416 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: times you want to tackle pook Kakoula. I am down 417 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 2: for that. 418 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: On a short week to a ground twelve or fourteen times. 419 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: I love that. Yes, I would take that. 420 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: I will say, though, the the player in the slot 421 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: for Seattle is about six inches and thirty. 422 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 4: Pounds bigger than the one last week for Detroit. 423 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: This is true. 424 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: So it's a different animal. 425 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: This is true. Yeah, even more is a big, big fella. 426 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: But I mean, like I said, with guys like him 427 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: when he's on a heater, when he's on one feed that. 428 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: Are you old enough to remember three trips ago to 429 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: Seattle when nobody knew who Pookinakoula was? 430 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 5: First game? 431 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: But yes, I do remember, Yes. 432 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 3: The opening week of twenty three that was the Pukinakua game, 433 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: but also undercard that was the two two at Well game. 434 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, biggest catch of last week or this Sunday was 435 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: too too unbelievable. Yes, come on, biggest catches in the fourth. 436 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: Come on, I saw have backspasms just watching them. 437 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 4: How did he do that? How did he go down 438 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 4: and get that? 439 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: No idea what I'm glad he did. Yes. 440 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if the conditions are going to allow 441 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: for this to be a two two out well game. 442 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: But what I love about the twenty twenty five Rams 443 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 3: is the two. 444 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: Two outwell story. 445 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 446 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: Like I get people who are upset because you wrote 447 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: them a nice check, but like when you wrote them 448 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: a nice check, you didn't have DeVante Adams yet, you 449 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: didn't have Kanate Momfield yet, Like those steps came later. 450 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: If anyone saw three tight end packages coming when they 451 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: signed two too out, well, let me know. 452 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: So that's a letter. 453 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: Like the fact that they've been one of, if not 454 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: the best offenses in the league and too Too only 455 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: has a handful of catches. Maybe that's you know, you 456 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: don't love the cap management or whatever, but who cares 457 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: about that in December? Like that is a healthy sign. 458 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: And if Davante misses a snap or a game or 459 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: a month whatever, it is thank goodness to tow out 460 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 3: well is fresh and ready to go. 461 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, maybe that's this week is the 462 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: reason we have two two in a sense, and I want. 463 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: That for two two, But I also want it to 464 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: be raining so hard that two two is just parked 465 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: in the garage. Yeah, and this is a you know, 466 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: three yards and a splashy cloud of dust type of game. 467 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: You know, we've given out a lot of flowers already 468 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: on this show, But I feel like we need to 469 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: also look to the defensive side of the ball. Because 470 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: the second half adjustments was superb. I will also question 471 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: the fact that we stopped the run in the first half. 472 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: It felt as if it was mission accomplished. And maybe 473 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: my question is did it actually set up the perfect 474 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: adjustment coming out of the second half. Some might look 475 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: at it and go, oh man, our defense little wavering 476 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: in the first, but I'm not sure that was necessarily 477 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: the case. 478 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 2: Uh okay, maybe not you. Maybe you remember the old 479 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: days with the TVs and the antennas and when you 480 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: got the blurry screen. 481 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: Bunny ears, come on now. 482 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: Bunny ears. Sometimes all it took was a little and 483 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: everything starts to work again. That's your adjustment. The calls 484 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: didn't change, You just played them better. You played them 485 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: more discipline. If they ask you to do X, Y 486 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: and Z, don't gamble, you know what I mean? Because 487 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: every receiver, especially from here on out, is lethal everybody. 488 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: So if you're gambling, if you're trying to be a star, 489 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: or if you're not getting enough pressure, which is another thing, 490 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: you've got to turn that up. And I'm so glad, 491 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: and I don't want to say proud, but the effort 492 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: that Kobe Turner put in towards the end of that 493 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: game to take it up a notch. When you know, 494 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: we said this on the air, that was vintage Jared Goff. 495 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: That was an interior pressure game and there was none 496 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: of it for one half. 497 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: If you didn't start to knock him around, he was 498 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: gonna fullay you and not stop. So those two guys 499 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: are Kobe Turner Braden Fisk bringing it up the gut 500 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: and then the edge starting to come around. That changed 501 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: the game in the passing game. But you have to 502 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: generate more pressure. I think we know what this defense 503 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: is and how it's gonna tru Did we talk a 504 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: lot about the front. The front has got to lead 505 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 2: this football team. Stopping the rum is great. You have 506 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: to earn the right to rush a passer, and when 507 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: you do, you've got to take advantage of it. 508 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember being in the family living room 509 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 3: and turning the dial from channel two to like channel 510 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: thirty six. Ye, how long you had to wait for 511 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: the antenna up on the roof to make that? I 512 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: need the Rams adjustments to be faster than the intent 513 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: on the roof. 514 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: Fair enough? 515 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: Does that make sense? 516 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: Fair enough? 517 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: I know our listeners and our watchers have been on us, 518 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: and I think rightly so for many, many weeks about this. 519 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 3: Something's changed, something's different. It's not the way it used 520 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 3: to be at the end of last year. On the 521 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: front end of this season, just the organic four man 522 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 3: win now pressures, they've not been there. And I know 523 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: that everyone's been rightly concerned about do the Rams have 524 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: enough in the secondary to be a championship defense? And 525 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: for a half against Detroit it it'd be a hard 526 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: time to make the case that the answer to. 527 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: That was yes. 528 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: But if you want to protect your corners, Jared Goff 529 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: needs to be uncomfortable. And if you want to protect 530 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: your corners, Sam Darnald needs to feel what he felt 531 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: the last time three times he played the Rams Thursday 532 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: Night Football with the Vikings wild Card with the Vikings. 533 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: At so far with the Seahawks, it's been a minute. 534 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: It's been a minute since he or any other quarterback 535 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: has felt that way. And I Detroit's got a great 536 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: offensive line, especially tackles. 537 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: Right that pair of tackles, they're good. That's as good 538 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 4: as you'll see tim of the cap. 539 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: They're very good. Lot of them. 540 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: Seattle and healthy, pretty good at tackle too. If you 541 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: got to do extra things to generate that pressure, you 542 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: could be in trouble. 543 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: You can, especially against Jared Goff and even against Donald, 544 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: against anybody. And I'm right there with you. The way 545 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: Jared Verst ended the football game, I have to point 546 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: this out. This was on the fourth and five the PI, 547 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: the Emmanuel Forbes call, which is still driving me crazy. Rough, 548 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: still driving me crazy. But just go back and watch 549 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: what Jared Verse does to Decker on that play. Absolutely 550 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: bull rush picks him up, drops him on Jared Goff. 551 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: Jared Goff bounced off a helmet his hand on that play. 552 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: That is vintage Verse. Now start the game that way, 553 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: you know what I mean that that right there up 554 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: in Seattle against Sam Donald will bring out the bad 555 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: Sam Donald early. 556 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: Well, And that's what I was just about to transition 557 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: and pivot to because with Sam Donald, we know it's 558 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: been round well, we'll call this round three. We'll think 559 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: back to Minnesota, because fine, not it's a little more fun. 560 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: How much of a different competition could this be in 561 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: round three? Just considering Sam Donald, they've been off to 562 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: some slow starts. How can we take advantage of what 563 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: we've seen from them in even recent weeks. 564 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm arguing with him about the do theory. I'm a 565 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: big fan of the do theory, Like if you're playing 566 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: bad against certain opponents, at some point, you're due for 567 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: a good one. So that's three in a row against 568 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: Sam Donald. There was a time when he came through 569 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: here when he played for the Jets, that he looked 570 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: like a Pro Bowl quarterback, even better and all pro. 571 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: I still think that guy exists, and human nature says, 572 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: you're gonna get tired of getting your butt kicked by 573 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: the same guy, or maybe you're not. We'll see. So 574 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: I'm expecting the great guy until you can take it 575 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: out of him. If you do and he starts throwing 576 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: it to you. Then, albeit, but I'm expecting him to 577 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: take this down to the wire just like we saw 578 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: in Detroit or versus Detroit. 579 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: First of all, I think Sam Donald is one of 580 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 3: the most likable, like easiest to root for opponents in 581 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: the sport. So like, I don't I don't want to 582 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: be sitting here bad mouthing Sam Donald. Like, go ask 583 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: a Seahawks fan, how are you feeling about your quarterback 584 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: right now? How does it feel to have a championship 585 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 3: team and the most turnover prone quarterback in the league 586 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: getting set to host the team that's given him the 587 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: most fits since since he last played the Rams five touchdowns, 588 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 3: five picks, eight sax, three fumbles. Now they've won four 589 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 3: of those games. They've beaten all four opponents not named 590 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Rams. But if you think it's comfortable 591 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: right now at Lumenfield in Seattle, having just defeated the 592 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: Colts without scoring a touchdown, you make. 593 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: A great point because there are some differences right with Seattle. 594 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: They have had those lower offenses. They've won four straight 595 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: Rams three and one in that time period. There was 596 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: no two to the last time we played them, Like 597 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned, potentially no Adams or Lake. You also think 598 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: about the difference for them they returned their starting center 599 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: as of last week, as well as a different look 600 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: for our special teams. You think back to the last 601 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: time we faced Seattle and that could be one of 602 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: the biggest difference makers for Los Angeles Rams facing them 603 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: for the second time this year. 604 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: That guy scares me. What was that field goal here 605 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: that he missed? 606 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 4: Sixty one? 607 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Sixty one and he made a fifty yarder to win 608 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: over the Colts. 609 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 2: Sixty one yards used to be like a miracle. No way, 610 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: he had done it. Start the celebrate, had done it 611 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: at so far that's that's wow. He's such a well, 612 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: yes he is currently the league. 613 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, he just had six field goals. I think he's 614 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: got one hundred and fifty three points leading. 615 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 5: The league right now. 616 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 2: I would never let go of a strong leg kicker 617 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: because of that right there, especially if he's accurate and 618 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: he's like you said, he's a guy that no matter 619 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: where you line up from, he's scary. So don't let 620 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: it come down to that. But the other side, the 621 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: kicking game from the Rams, when's the last time we 622 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: spent five minutes on it. Maybe since the three techniques 623 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: showed up, Jake mcquaide showed up, that whole battery has 624 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: gotten better, and now you're focused on what you should 625 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: be focused on, offense, defense win in football games. 626 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: See, I would argue, I'm like, go ahead, Jason Myers, 627 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: score as many field goals as you want, as long 628 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: as you're not kicking pats. 629 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 3: I think that's right. I think the team kicking threes 630 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: on Thursday is probably going to lose. And I mean 631 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: to go back to the defensive conversation for a second. 632 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: They rose the occasion, they made plays, and I think 633 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 3: at times we've seen be it Forbes, be it d Will, 634 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: be it Akella Witherspoon, like we've seen flashes of what 635 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: it's going to take to get to the super Bowl. 636 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: But when Akell is a healthy scratch pregame and you're 637 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: pulling your punting team off the field on fourth and 638 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: eight to go for it early in that game like that, 639 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: that kind of tells you the state of affairs. 640 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 2: Now. 641 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: That may have been unique to that matchup and the 642 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 3: firepower of Detroit, but that's the dynamic we're living in 643 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: right now. 644 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: But didn't you like that because it was obvious what 645 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: was necessary and there was no doubt. On the other side, 646 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: some other coaches might have punted it back to Jared 647 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: Goff and been down two scores, three scorers before you realize, oh, 648 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: now I have to turn it up. He realized early 649 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: what type of game this was totally, I mean immediately 650 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 2: that was awesome at least. 651 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: Yes, And because you know we're playing Cooper Cup this week, 652 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: we used to, you know, have fun on air. When 653 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 3: it's third down for the Rams, it's third down and 654 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: Cup now it's puka. And when it's fourth down for 655 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: the Rams, it's fourth down in Puka because you get 656 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: the ball to that dude, I don't care if it's 657 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: fourth and two, fourth and five, fourth and eight. 658 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: He's gonna find a way, no doubt, yes, sir. 659 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: And so again, I don't know what the conditions are 660 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: going to be, the weather in this defense, completely different animal. 661 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: I don't think you need to go out planning for 662 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: this to be a shootout like we were against the 663 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: Detroit Lions. But to Cameron's question about you know, is 664 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: three going to be enough? Like I think it all 665 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: stitches together. No, you need sevens. 666 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: See, and I think in regards to the rain too. 667 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: As much as that Carolina loss was painful, maybe that 668 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: was the best preparation in terms of whether and getting 669 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: accustomed to it that you could have heading into Seattle. 670 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: So to go back to that Carolina game, But as 671 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 3: frustrating as it was to have Goff fallane you, as 672 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: I think you described earlier the show, at least it 673 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: happened quickly. 674 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: True. 675 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: Where the Rams historically get into deep waters is when 676 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: they're getting squeezed, when the other team is sitting on 677 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: the football, the game's getting short, they're not getting. 678 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: Their play opportunities. 679 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: And that's what Carolina did to them. That's what the 680 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: forty nine ers, when they've had success against the Rams, 681 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: have done to them. Do I love the amen ros 682 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: Saint Brown like weaving through your defense for fifty plus? 683 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: No? 684 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: Do I love Aiden Hutchinson, you know, picking off Stafford, 685 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: and well I did love him getting hawked down by. 686 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: Man. 687 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: But if you're going to make those mistakes, at least 688 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: it wasn't death by a thousand paper cuts. It was 689 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: one play touchdown, get it back in the hands of 690 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: Stafford and go do damage and go keep up right, 691 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: like just just play the tennis match as it is, 692 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: and I think this matters Thursday because right now Seattle 693 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: is not running the ball well enough to play the 694 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: Carolina style. Maybe they will on Thursday. I know it's 695 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: a focal point for them. But I jotted down their 696 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: first nine runs against Indy three yards first, so they're 697 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: coming out of the gate. Here's your design run game. 698 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: They net three yards, Like, that's just one example of 699 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: where they are relative where the rams are right now. 700 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: And so if this becomes an imposure, will battle the 701 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: elements a gritty type of game. 702 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 5: Who do you like. 703 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: Sonic and Knuckles are version of Sonic and Knuckles. Yeah, 704 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: I'm stealing that. I'm taking that back. 705 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, Before we get to the our keys to Victor, 706 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: I feel like we just need to give a brief 707 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: overview of the playoff picture. And I actually Jory hirsh Our, 708 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: lovely producer, joked with me this week saying, JB, you 709 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: have probably been looking at the playoff picture since week. 710 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 5: Three and designing it. 711 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: So I've been scratching it out on cards for the 712 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: last two straight weeks, figuring out exactly where we're going 713 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: to be. But just in terms of some of the 714 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: schedules and who we might face off remaining schedules. What 715 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: are you looking to in terms of the playoff picture. 716 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: Well, you know what's great about being the one is 717 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: you don't have to play the playoff simulator game. 718 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 5: That is also true. 719 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: It's a fun exercise, makes the math easy. 720 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: Yes, But when you know that your three wins away 721 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: from being the one, you don't need a plug in 722 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: any other results. 723 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 5: That's fair. 724 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: But when you look around too, you think about Seattle's 725 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: remaining path. They have us, they have Carolina, who, by 726 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: the way, is in a must win position. They face 727 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: the box this week it or excuse me, next week? Yeah, 728 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: this week and then week eighteen. They have San Francisco, 729 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco to close out. You look at a few 730 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: of the others too, one of the hardest pass the Bears. 731 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: They've got Green Bay, San Francisco, Detroit. There's a few 732 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: that need all three to really get to that twelve 733 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: wins spot. 734 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 5: It's kind of a tough path, no doubt. 735 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 4: Man, How does that Micah injury huge? 736 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, he made that defense special, He really did. 737 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: He's a math changer. That's a big injury for them. 738 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 3: You know, I kind of changed my tune on that 739 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: whole Chicago thing. I thought for a while their previous matchup, 740 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I know the Bears have the 741 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: better record, but Green Bay's probably the opponent that you 742 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: fear more. So you know, root for Caleb and the 743 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: Bears now because they are ten and four, and because 744 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: of the Mica thing, I think I'm back on the Okay, 745 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: let green Bay give you a little. 746 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: Bit of margin. 747 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: Here's the other dimension that I haven't mentioned yet, which 748 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: is Green Bay or sorry, Chicago. 749 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 4: Still has San Francisco. 750 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: Yes, so not that anyone could be more motivated in 751 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: professional football. I want to respect what Sundays are in 752 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: the league, but I want the most desperate, motivated Chicago 753 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: Bears team possible. Yeah, to be going to Santa Clara 754 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: in week seventeen. So if they're coming off, you know, 755 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: a loss against Green Bay, I think that'll be the reality. 756 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 5: Yep. 757 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: And for San Francisco, they've got Indy, they've got Grandfather 758 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: Rivers and then the Bears in Seattle. 759 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: Wow, he's a grandfather, Dang. 760 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 5: I know. That's so cool though, what a story that is. 761 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: Schil is a beautiful story and a great press conference 762 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: by him. 763 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 5: Wow, keys to victory, Fellas DeMarco. I'll start with you, Oh. 764 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: My god, defense, I guess start start the game the 765 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: way you finished it versus Detroit, and just keep doing 766 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: what you're doing stopping the run. I just love the 767 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: interior depth. We've been saying that all year, the way 768 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: you're playing box getting off blocks. Nate Lanman has played terrific, 769 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: and not just in the passing game, in the run game. 770 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned Omar Space earlier. He's been an 771 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: absolute hammer. Now it doesn't show up in accountable stats, 772 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: but you've got to take on blocks with the proper 773 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: shoulder to send the ball where you need it to 774 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: go into your help. And he hasn't really missed a 775 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: beat there. Uh So start there. The one thing that 776 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: you could rev up is pass rush. When you do 777 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: earn the right to rush the pastor and get after him, 778 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: don't waste your reps. The worst thing in the world 779 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: is when you waste reps and give them data. When 780 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: you come off with something clean and it's there, but 781 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: the ball gets out or they pick up a first down. 782 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: Now they've seen it. Now they've talked about it, and 783 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: it kind of negates your advantage. So when you do 784 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 2: have ops to get off the field, you gotta get off, 785 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: especially against Sam Donald. If you do and you keep 786 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: turning this back over to the Matthew Stafford in this run game, 787 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: you have a chance to control it up there and 788 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: take the crowd out. Take the crowd out of the game, 789 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: and I think that's most important. 790 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: All Right, you didn't take yourself there, So I'm going 791 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: to take you to them because I know you well enough. 792 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 3: Anyone remember who was the most vocal in their support 793 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,959 Speaker 3: of Sam Darnald after his four giveaway game. 794 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: That's so fun. Oh yeah, they're a middle linebacker. 795 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: Ernest Jones. 796 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: Ernest Jones, Yes, So. 797 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: I mean we talked about Colby going back to the 798 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 3: Pacific Northwest Puna Ford. I mean, my goodness, Warmer Seahawk, 799 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: this is a huge matchup for him to kind of 800 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 3: bend this game back on Sam Donald. But the green 801 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 3: dot linebacker battle, not just in terms of this game, 802 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: but who's getting postseason accolades DeMarco. 803 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: Far down to the wire. Like you said, there's an 804 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: inside backer battle, there's a receiver battle, and there's a 805 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: lot at stake for both teams. But that in particular, 806 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: is going to be fun. That is going to be 807 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 2: a play made on every single drive by those two guys. 808 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: May the best man win. 809 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 3: And we talk about two guys maybe most likely to 810 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 3: generate an extra possession. 811 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, he has five picks. Nate Landman has done 812 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: the Landman punch. You know, it's about time for another one. 813 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: That would be a game changer. Like you said, diet 814 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 2: touchdowns aren't gonna work. That's field goals. Getting the ball 815 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 2: out certainly will. That will change everything. Diet touchdowns. 816 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so good. 817 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 5: And to your point too, JB. That that type of competition. 818 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: I always think back I was a volleyball player and 819 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: you do outside versus outside like best on best and 820 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: for whoever got the starting role, and it was. 821 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 5: Like practice week of competition. 822 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: Like as an athlete, those are the type of competitions 823 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: that you live and die for. 824 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 5: Like that gives me goosebumps. 825 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna be incredible to watch some of these supreme 826 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: athletes go ahead to head. 827 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: Okay, one more thing before we go. I believe I 828 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: one hundred percent believe this. I think some guys are 829 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: happier not playing in games like this and still being 830 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: great play. I really do. Some guys are just they're 831 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 2: happier being great on teams that aren't going anywhere because 832 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 2: all they have to do is play well and say 833 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 2: look at me. It takes special group of people, a 834 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 2: really good team, a great team, or a potential great 835 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: one that wants to be in environments like this because 836 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: everybody's watching and there's a lot at stake, you know 837 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like there's think about it. If you 838 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,479 Speaker 2: come up on the losing end of this. 839 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 5: Bad there's more to lose when there's more at. 840 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 2: Stake, Exactly. Some people don't. 841 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 5: Rise to the challenge. And I think we got them all. 842 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 2: I think we do. I think, And it starts with 843 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 2: the starts from the top, the coaching staff down. We 844 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: mentioned that earlier. I think they they're ready for this 845 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 2: because they've planned for it, if that makes any sense. 846 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: They're not shot by going up to Seattle and having 847 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: this on the line. This ain't a fun story like 848 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: the Bears. Oh wow, look at Caleb Williams. He's actually 849 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: don't know. They planned for this. They planned to be 850 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: in environments like this. So I think you've got enough 851 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: of those guys on this football team that you can 852 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 2: take it up and do battle with anybody, so they're 853 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 2: not going to blink. Now, you just have to go 854 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: up there and play well. I think that's the most 855 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: important thing. 856 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 3: I think this is the second of second of three 857 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 3: meetings between the Seahawks and the Rams this year. 858 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: I I agree. 859 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: I think this one de terms where that third game 860 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: is going to be played. 861 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 862 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: But I think we're going to see this again in January. 863 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: Don't you got a feeling? 864 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 865 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 3: I want to circle back to something we kind of 866 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 3: left on the shelf recapping the win over Seattle earlier 867 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 3: this season, which was the Rams didn't get to a 868 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: lot of their stuff, Like it wasn't a productive day offensively, 869 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 3: and credit the Seahawks for everything they did because they're 870 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: beautifully built to thwart what the Rams love to do. 871 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: But because of those four takeaways, it was a lot 872 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 3: of like short field specialty situation stuff. And I would 873 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: like to think that what was a month ago, some 874 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 3: of the preferred plays, some of the preferred answers to 875 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 3: the looks that the Rams have are still dry powder 876 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 3: for this game. Is there any truth to that potential 877 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 3: dynamic that like there's a corner or multiple corners of 878 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 3: the play sheet that Lafleur and they. 879 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 4: Had that they just didn't get to. 880 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: I would bet that you're right. I do know. When 881 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 2: you turn the ball over and the fields are shorter 882 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: than you think and you're playing scramble ball, there's only 883 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: so many things you can call. But if you're able 884 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: to start your game plan, yeah, everything's gonna look different 885 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: and you have answers. 886 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: Offensively, only twelve first downs, not even two hundred and 887 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 3: fifty yards, only twenty two minutes of possession. 888 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 4: In a game that you won. 889 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, So that's kind of the exception that 890 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 3: proves the rule. But I would like to think that 891 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 3: there's still a good corner of the game plan that 892 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 3: plays well. 893 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 4: This week. 894 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 3: I think you got to call out Rashida shaheat and 895 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 3: the difference he makes both in terms of the offense 896 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 3: and if you've watched what he's done on special teams. 897 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 3: He is an X factor that matters, I think in 898 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 3: this game, in addition to all their star personnel on defense. 899 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I put a body on him, yes, sir, put. 900 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 4: A body on them. 901 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 2: Yes. 902 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: I will give you my key to victory, which is 903 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 1: I would love to see the Rams score a touchdown 904 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: on the first drive. And I say this because Seattle 905 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: has not allowed a touchdown on the first drive in 906 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: thirteen consecutive games. So I would love to see the 907 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: Rams just punch him in the mouth to get things started, 908 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: and then I'll go back. I want to see Jason 909 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: Myers kicking some field goals. Kick six, I don't care, 910 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: go for it. Get those numbers past one fifty three. 911 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: That's fine by me, as long as he's not kicking pats. 912 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: Any final thoughts before we get out of here. 913 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: Let's get it. It's gonna be fun, Yes, sir, the 914 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: first down here you go win, first down, win, first down, win, 915 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: first down. 916 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: I will let you guys know it's been wonderful to 917 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: have you here with between the horns presented by your 918 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: Southern California Dealers for JV. 919 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 5: Long DeMarco far I'm Cameron. 920 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: Irwin, and I cannot wait to see the new member 921 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: on special teams, Christian Alexander. I think maybe a little 922 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: extra roster appearance we can away for Thursday night football. 923 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 5: Be sure to be loud and cheering from wherever you are. 924 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: M hm.