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Speaker 1: is up, straight firefan, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire

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Speaker 1: for Thursday, December fourteenth. Oh boy, well, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know where to begin, folks. Wednesday was a day faux show,

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Speaker 1: great commentary on the podcast, you guys seem to enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: And then I host a herd and I guess I

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Speaker 1: said some stuff about Cam Newton and Dak Prescott that

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Speaker 1: irked a large segment of the American supports population. Your

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Speaker 1: boy was under siege. I listen, it all rolls off

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Speaker 1: my back. I don't care. We'll talk about that. We

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Speaker 1: have an awful, awful, putrid Thursday night football game. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I bet the game. Keenan Allen out for the Chargers. Like,

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Speaker 1: how's anybody watching this? I mean, no key? So what

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Speaker 1: is it gonna be? Easton stick, Gerald Everett and Austin

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Speaker 1: Chosh Jacobs, like this is a bad football Maybe one

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Speaker 1: Hunter and third and Renfel will have a game. No

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Speaker 1: fantasy impact with the fantasy playoffs on the line. But

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Speaker 1: we have to start with the big news Wednesday night

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Speaker 1: that Draymond Green has been suspended, wait for it, indefinitely.

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Speaker 1: They did not even put a game number on it.

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Speaker 1: The NBA dropping the hammer on Draymond Green. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: I decided to pop into a Warriors podcast for some

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Speaker 1: guys who covered the team just to hear a couple

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Speaker 1: their takeaway. Now this was right after the game. Their

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Speaker 1: takeaway was, oh, yeah, you know, I didn't think it

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Speaker 1: would be that bad. Maybe a couple games and I'm

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Speaker 1: just here I heard that. I instantly turned it off.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you gotta be kidding me. A couple

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Speaker 1: and it's like that's very open ended and like, you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't want this guy. I'm assuming the Warriors have

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Speaker 1: a national TV game on Christmas here coming up in

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Speaker 1: twelve days, sorry, eleven days. I can't imagine that the

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Speaker 1: NBA wants Draymond Green on national television for that game.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what are we doing? Like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: him near a national audience. He's just an unhinged at

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny. I was, yeah, I was joking

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Speaker 1: around with some guys about Draymond Green, and this dude goes,

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Speaker 1: you know, you want your players to have a fighting chance,

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Speaker 1: not a chance of fighting, Like that's what Draymond Green

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Speaker 1: is doing, like choking out Rudy Gobert, stomping on some bonus,

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Speaker 1: sucker punching. Jordan Poole's getting into it with what's the

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Speaker 1: name Donovan Mitchell earlier this year. I mean, he really

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Speaker 1: Chris Bussar I had him on the Herd yesterday and

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Speaker 1: we were talking to him. He made a decent point.

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Speaker 1: He's like, well, Dreamond could be going through some personal stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, maybe something's going on in his

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Speaker 1: life that we don't know about and he's taking it out.

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Speaker 1: But that's still no excuse. Just because you got crap

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Speaker 1: going on at home, you can't take it out on

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Speaker 1: you know, European centers, which he seems to be picking

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Speaker 1: on almost exclusively these days. I don't know, man, It's

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Speaker 1: it's one of those issues where the Golden State Warriors

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Speaker 1: kind of need him and they are desperate for anything

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Speaker 1: out of Klay Thompson. And by the way, we'll just

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Speaker 1: get this out of the way. Schams went on a

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Speaker 1: radio station or a TV show or something and obviously

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Speaker 1: talked about was asked about Clay Thompson, and he said

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Speaker 1: the range of forty eight million dollars for Clay before

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Speaker 1: the season, and now Clay obviously rejected it, and now

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Speaker 1: what does Steph Curry do? Does Steph Curry just kind of,

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Speaker 1: Johnson to be the best point guard in NBA history.

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Speaker 1: No superstar in his mid thirties wants to play out

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Speaker 1: fix it. Remember Bob Meyers left traded Pool extended Draymond.

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Speaker 1: But we can laugh and say pools a fifteen point

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Speaker 1: a game. Guy, Jay, you were so wrong thinking he

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Speaker 1: averaged thirty a game. I was. I mean, the Wizards

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Speaker 1: wonder how much does this anger Curry that it just

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Speaker 1: Elijah wanted to ended his career in Toronto with the Raptors,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, like again, I'm sure you're just happy

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Speaker 1: Curry still has a lot. He just has nothing around

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Speaker 1: him to make him look good. Defenses, it's easy to

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Speaker 1: my nuclear take probably a little hot and incendiary. What

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Speaker 1: if Steph Curry was just like, guys, we had an

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Speaker 1: awesome run. You know what. I love the city, the city.

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Speaker 1: You guys took a chance on me when a lot

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Speaker 1: of people didn't think I could do it. I'd love

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Speaker 1: it if you traded me and Steph Curry looked for

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Speaker 1: an exit ramp. Now that's very out of character for him, right,

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Speaker 1: But what if Curry asked for a trade at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, not in the middle of the season,

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Speaker 1: but end of the season. Guys, we're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm still near at or near the height of my powers.

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Speaker 1: Let me cook elsewhere now. Though I'm sure the Warriors would,

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Speaker 1: you know, have to think logan hard about whether they

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Speaker 1: we're just we're going to fix the parts around you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Curry would do that. I would

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Speaker 1: says I would love to be traded. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: you don't want to be Dame Lillard if you're Steph

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Speaker 1: look good for Dame. He's on the Bucks. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't think they'll win the finals this year. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, and he gets to play with Giannas,

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Speaker 1: what superstar can I play with? In my final days

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Speaker 1: know people are probably laughing, like Steph Curry. Look at

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Speaker 1: Dame Lillard. Now he never won anything, but he was Portland.

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Speaker 1: People would say he's maybe the greatest Blazer ever. Some

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Speaker 1: people say Bo Walton, some people say Clide Drexler, blah

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Speaker 1: Curry has for a trade to say forty at least.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's fifty to fifty because again, he's

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Speaker 1: But then again, Jay Dame was the Blazers. So it's

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Speaker 1: And as we had ner the offseason, I know you've

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Speaker 1: And he goes, Dak versus Cam? And I go, wait,

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Speaker 1: is that a thing? Why is it Dak versus Cam?

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Speaker 1: Isn't it just what Cam Newton said? And he goes, well,

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Speaker 1: for you how it went down. You know. So I

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Speaker 1: and they say, this Cam Newton thing is kind of wild.

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Speaker 1: impressive career. And in the in the herd room, we

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Speaker 1: put together, you know, there's some stats and we're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's two years younger than Cam and he's actually,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, wait for it, like statistically equal or

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Speaker 1: better to Cam in many categories. Whoa wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: is this real? Yeah? Oh oh it is? Yeah. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: So Dak game manager Prescott, Remember, he came into the

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Speaker 1: league twenty three touchdowns, four picks, did not make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: They went thirteen and three, okay, and he was called

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Speaker 1: a game manager derisively. I think that was the year

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Speaker 1: with the des Brian No, no, that might not have

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Speaker 1: been the Desbrian catch. But they went thirteen and three

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Speaker 1: and then they flamed down in the playoffs. Let me

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Speaker 1: actually see if that was the playoff game. But I

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Speaker 1: just remember Dak early hey limit mistakes. Yes, that was

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Speaker 1: the Packers game thirty four to thirty one. No, it

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Speaker 1: was a different Packers game. The one at Lambeau was

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Speaker 1: the des Brian catch. The thirty four to thirty one

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Speaker 1: was where Aaron Rodgers drew up a play in the

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Speaker 1: huddle and made some incredible pass. Do you guys remember

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Speaker 1: that one? Yeah, that was at home too. Oh, that

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Speaker 1: was a phenomenal game, and Dak was you know, you

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Speaker 1: can't blame See it's weird that this is why playoff

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Speaker 1: records don't count. I'm looking back at that box score, like,

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Speaker 1: you can't blame that loss, that playoff loss on Dak

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Speaker 1: at home. I mean, he threw three touchdowns, three hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: He's outstanding. He did have a pick, but that Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers won that game. Dak didn't lose it. So since

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Speaker 1: I brought up the playoffs, remember I said Cam Newton

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Speaker 1: three and four in the playoffs. Dak is two and four,

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Speaker 1: the immortal Cam Newton. That's it, seven playoff games in

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Speaker 1: his career, Dak two and four, and he's two years

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Speaker 1: younger than Cam was when he retired. So you start

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Speaker 1: looking at stats, and again it really stats are in

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Speaker 1: the eye of the beholder. What do they say about stats?

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Speaker 1: They're like a bikini. They show you a lot, but

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Speaker 1: they don't show you everything, right, you know, touchdowns, yards

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Speaker 1: per game, Like, there's a ton of stats that show

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Speaker 1: essentially that Dak is better than Cam Newton's sixty six

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Speaker 1: percent completions to fifty nine passing yards per game, higher

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Speaker 1: exactly the same amount of touchdowns, way fewer picks, higher

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Speaker 1: passer rating. And then of course all these people, well

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Speaker 1: what about the running. Okay, finally running yet Dak was not.

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Speaker 1: He was not a big runner, and then he broke

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Speaker 1: his leg and he doesn't really run at all, and

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Speaker 1: Cam that was like one of his best attributes is

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Speaker 1: being a running quarterback. His podcast is called fourth and one,

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Speaker 1: probably because he was the original Brotherly Shove where it

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Speaker 1: was fourth and one. He's just jumping over you. You know, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to bash Cam Newton. I think he

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Speaker 1: was an electrifying talent. I was a huge fan of him.

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Speaker 1: Fun fact, I went out and ordered the ugly Christmas

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Speaker 1: sweater of Santa Dabbing because dabbing is cool and Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton was cool and was the first guy I saw

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Speaker 1: her do the dab. Well, that's funny. Like I like Cam.

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Speaker 1: I just think historically for his career it's a little

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Speaker 1: overblown thanks to a bunch of incredible, other worldly highlights.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, if you want to isolate, like top

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Speaker 1: five plays, I'm sure five's Cam's top five are better

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Speaker 1: than Dak's top five, and that's not an argument. But

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Speaker 1: we're talking about a career years games dropbacks. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about twenty plays that you know are electrifying for Cam

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Speaker 1: and Dak doesn't really have that. But that's twenty plays

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Speaker 1: out of what if we're doing just assuming six hundred

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Speaker 1: dropbacks times ten seasons, we're talking like six thousand plays, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And you want to isolate twenty and say Cam was better.

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Speaker 1: And also because he went Super Bowl when you're's here,

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Speaker 1: Gof's been to a Super Bowl, Nick Foles won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Can we just chill with that? Yes, Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton was awesome. Has he had a better career than

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott? I think unequivocally you can say no, And

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Speaker 1: I you know, it's tough for me to even bring

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Speaker 1: up Perdy because that brought purty narratives just so crazy.

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Speaker 1: People are just so against him, And I know I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna come off as this is, you know, disliking Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton or whatever. But again, if you want to go

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Speaker 1: look at the stats, folks, you can they're right there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not making any of this up. This is straight up.

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Speaker 1: Dak has had a better career as a passer than

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton, period, hard stop. Now Cam has him as

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Speaker 1: a runner. Cam won the MVP and he guided Carolina

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Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. Those are things Dak has not done.

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Speaker 1: Dak's postseason leaves a lot to be desired, but you

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Speaker 1: know what, he's gonna tie sure, unless they get lose

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Speaker 1: in the first round. Dak Prescott all love as many

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Speaker 1: playoff wins as Cam come, like to second week of

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Speaker 1: January and you know what, they might win two playoff

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Speaker 1: games and then he's eclipsed Cam and then what, well,

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Speaker 1: he didn't get to a super Bowl. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: an MVP Okay, fine, if you're gonna judge an entire

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Speaker 1: career on one season out of eight or ten seasons,

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Speaker 1: you do that, go off, king, go for it. But

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm impartial. I have no dog in this

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Speaker 1: in this race. You guys know this. I wasn't even

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Speaker 1: a huge Dak Prescott fan. I said he was a

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Speaker 1: you know, nine, ten, eleven, twelve thirteen quarterback for a

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Speaker 1: while in the league, and Kirk Cousins was better, and

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Speaker 1: I think Kirk Cruszin's had a better career, and you know,

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Speaker 1: here's the reality, like Cam just wasn't consistent enough to

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Speaker 1: be a dominant quarterback. And anyways, so this somehow became

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Speaker 1: when I dragged Dak into it and said Dak had

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Speaker 1: a better career than Cam. That's what set everyone off.

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Speaker 1: And all these guys got so worked up. And you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: Shady McCoy's my guy, we're friendly. He's not the biggest

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Speaker 1: Dak fan obviously, and then you know, a couple other

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Speaker 1: people got all worked up, and it's just like wow,

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Speaker 1: you know, they kept texting me throughout the day. Dude,

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Speaker 1: the TikTok of this video is going crazy. It's good

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Speaker 1: bonkers on Instagram already this is gold, and I did

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Speaker 1: not intend it to be gold. It's just you know,

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Speaker 1: when you do your homework and you bring a lot

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Speaker 1: of facts to the table, you're probably gonna find some

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Speaker 1: stuff that other people didn't see and they don't like.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I I would love and it's not

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Speaker 1: happening obviously, but I would love to hear Cam Newton answer,

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Speaker 1: why did you refer to these guys as game managers?

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Speaker 1: I would love to hear that because we need to.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's let's make it our cause to stop

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Speaker 1: using game manager derisively. You know what, if a game

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Speaker 1: manager is Dak this season, give me Dak. If a

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Speaker 1: game manager's Brock Bertie this season, give me that. I

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Speaker 1: mean Jared Goff game manager. They're scoring buckets of points now,

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Speaker 1: they've had our bad run lately, and we know Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff can't play outdoors. I would never put at least

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put GoF in this sentence, as as Cam

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Speaker 1: at this point to a way too early, Brock, way

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Speaker 1: too early. But to put to drag Dak into this,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyways, Let's wrap up with a best

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Speaker 1: bet for Thursday. Night Football, and this is not a

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Speaker 1: pretty win. Folks. You know, as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: this could be you know, we don't have the Basketball

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Speaker 1: League's over. Youth sports for the kids is over. This

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Speaker 1: might be a like Charlie Brown Christmas kind of night.

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Speaker 1: I'm open to hearing any good Christmas movie ideas, but

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Speaker 1: this game is not under any circumstances like gotta watch it,

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Speaker 1: gotta stay home. I bet the under thirty five points

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Speaker 1: Chargers Raiders. There's some juice minus one thirteen, so one

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Speaker 1: hundred thirteen bucks to win one hundred Chargers Raiders under

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Speaker 1: Easton Stick against Aiden O'Connell. Feel the excitement, Enjoy Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night Football. Back tomorrow with a good guess for a week.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, is this week fourteen already? Holy hell,

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Speaker 1: we're there. Talk to you tomorrow