1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Whenever I feel stuck or I feel like things aren't moving, 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: I start to reflect and realize how far I've come. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: I try not to look at just performances, but as 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: a person and how much I've grown, you know, emotionally, spiritually, 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: it's a really beautiful thing. If you're not growing anymore, 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: I feel like there's something wrong. 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily a body here, last one, best one. 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not choosing favorites, but you are listening to 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: the final installment of this week's Turning the Page series 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: on Hurdle a while. This focused podcast where I talk 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: to inspirational people about everything from their highest ties and 12 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: toughest moments to essential tips on how to live a healthier, happier, 13 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: more motivated life. We all go through our fair share 14 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: of hurdles. My goal through these discussions is to empower 15 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: you to better navigate yours and move with intention so 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 3: that you can stride towards your own big potential. 17 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: And of course, have some fun along the way. 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: For this episode, number two hundred and eighty three, I 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: am chatting with Emma Bates. She is a professional runner 20 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: with a six and man, was. 21 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: So good to have the opportunity to catch up with her. 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: The last time we sat down for the show was 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: in Eugene back in summer of twenty twenty one. Wow, 24 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: time flies, and so much has happened since then. 25 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: Emma fills me in on the year that was, sharing. 26 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: Her highs and lows, chatting about her experience both in 27 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: Boston placing fifth and top overall American in the marathon, 28 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: and also the difficult time she had running the Chicago 29 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: Marathon this past October, tearing her plantern not so fun. 30 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: She also shares the highs and lows of home ownership, 31 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: having to deal with a plethora of unexpected things since 32 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: purchasing her new home in Boulder, forcing her and her animals, 33 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: including her two goats, to seek refuge in a couple 34 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: of different air b and bs. What I love most 35 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: about this conversation, though, is the through line of Emma's 36 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: power of perspective. This woman has been dealt some difficult 37 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: cards this year, but she still shows up day in 38 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: and day out with a smile on her face, thankful 39 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: for what she has and doing. 40 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: The best she can with where she's at. 41 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: I'm personally looking forward to cheering on Emma next month 42 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: at the US Olympic Marathon trials. Make sure you're following 43 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: along with Hurdle over on Socialists at Hurdle Podcast. 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There 53 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: are exclusive offers from both of those brands in the 54 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: show notes. 55 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: With that, let's get to it. Let's get to hurdling today. 56 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: I'm sitting down with the one and only Emma Bates. Emma, 57 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: how you doing today? 58 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: I'm good? How are you? 59 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: I am good For those of you that might be 60 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: out of the loop, Emma freshly cut her own banks. 61 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Yes again, I'm glad that this is a podcast so 62 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: nobody can see them. They're not they're not great. I 63 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: did them myself, and as one probably shouldn't ever, but 64 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: especially in the state that I cut them in Yeah, Oh. 65 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: Is there something that we should know? 66 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Oh? 67 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: These are stress bangs? 68 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: What's stressing you out these days? 69 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: So ran Chicago, which was less an ideal because I 70 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: ended up tearing my planner and just been dealing with 71 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: the remications of that. And now I have like some 72 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: post tip stuff. So I'm trying to run. I'm trying 73 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: to get ready for the Olympic trials at our February third, 74 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: and it's just been an uphill battle ever since Chicago, 75 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: basically before Chicago though, to be honest, it's been a 76 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: weird past few months, if I'm being real. 77 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And. 78 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: So when something like this pops up, not only the 79 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: planter chair, but then you said dealing with some tib stuff. 80 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: I love that phrase tib stuff. But when these things happen, 81 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: where does your mental state go? Is it immediately frantic 82 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 3: and then calm or calm until there's a reason to 83 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: be frantic? Like how do you usually react in these 84 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: situations of the uncontrollable? 85 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: I am usually pretty calm off the bat, and then 86 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: I start to have my moments where I freak out. 87 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: So I just they're very fleeting, but when they wash 88 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: over me, they're really intense, and I just, like, you know, 89 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: one day, completely lost it and like the whole day 90 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: was just like just dreadful. It just felt like, you know, 91 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: impending doom was upon me, and it's just like where 92 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: is this coming from? But I think I start to 93 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: like bottle things up inside. I try to like not 94 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: be like a burden, not only to like myself, but 95 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: to like others, and so like I try to like 96 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: act like everything's okay, and like on the surface it 97 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: is fine, but then I start to like look inward 98 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: and like really start to reflect on the way that 99 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm feeling, and then that's when I kind of lose it. 100 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 4: And I really need. 101 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: To be better about like kind of talking through my 102 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: feelings as I'm having them with people. But it is 103 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: just something that I need to, you know, get better at. 104 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: And we all kind of like push things down because 105 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: everybody has something going on. 106 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: You know. 107 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: You don't want to be that person that's always like 108 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: complaining about something or this and that. So I try 109 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: to just compartmentalize a little bit and then have my 110 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: moments to release all of that. So that day that 111 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: I felt the impending doom upon me, I just like 112 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: cried all day, and it felt so good. It was 113 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: very cathartic. And so then the next day I just 114 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: get up and do my thing again. Like we're just 115 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, we have to just keep moving along. And yeah, 116 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: I have like amazing people in my life in order 117 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: for me to like want to get up in the 118 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: morning and want to start my day and talk to 119 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: those people. So that's what I end up having to 120 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: do to try to like get myself out of like 121 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: a funky space. Is just like, you know, I have 122 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people that care about me and want 123 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: to talk to me. 124 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, Okay, I love that. Emma's going deep right 125 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: from the echo. I'm here for it. So a couple 126 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: of things is doublequick on one I love. Although I 127 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: know this part of the process is hard. The day 128 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: that I'm going to feel all of my feelings, I too, 129 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: And I'm sure many people listening to this can relate 130 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: to that sentiment. I don't want to be a burden 131 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,559 Speaker 3: for others, so let me just be in my own 132 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: ball of emotions. But so often we almost get down 133 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: on ourselves for wanting to simply experience those emotions at all. 134 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's that's the toughest challenge is like, 135 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, you try to be like this adult that 136 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: has their shit together, and you know, I'm great, and like, 137 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, there's so many other like things going on 138 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: in the world and like, my you know, small issue 139 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: is nothing compared to like what's going on out there, 140 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: and so I try to, like you know, remind myself 141 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: and give myself perspective. It's like, yes, you can give 142 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: yourself some grace sometimes, but yeah, like you know, your 143 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: life isn't hard, You're fine, you know, so that kind 144 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: of gets me out of that, you know, of just 145 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: funky space is just like knowing that it could always 146 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: be worse, you know, Like the perspective of that is 147 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: really important. But allowing yourself to feel your feels because 148 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: we all have, you know, our stuff and our issues, 149 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: and so I think that's something that everybody needs to 150 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: be little just respect yourself and respect that you need 151 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: to go through those emotions. 152 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: It's like a yes and moment. It's like, yes, respect yourself, 153 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: and also you're allowed to feel right because God, have 154 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 3: you ever actually known someone who constantly has their shit together? 155 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: And it's true to be facts, Like it's not just 156 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: a facade. I don't personally know anyone that has all 157 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: of their shit together all the time. Yet we guilt 158 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: ourself into this place where we're like, well, that's how 159 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: I should be though, right exactly. 160 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: And that's the problem with social media is everybody's posting, 161 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: you know, ten percent of their life that's like all 162 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: the happy moments and whatnot, and not very many people post, 163 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, the sad stuff or the stuff that's bothering them. 164 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: And like, I think that's where we get into weird 165 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: headspaces where we're like, yeah, like everybody else gets it 166 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: and knows what they're doing, like what's wrong with me? 167 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: But no, No, even the people that like I admire 168 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: the most that come off as like the strongest people 169 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: still have you know, those those days. And like Emma Coburn, 170 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: for instance, my teammate is just like the strong, one 171 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: of the strongest women I've ever met in my life, 172 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: but like, you know, she has her moments where you know, 173 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: things need to kind of slow down and she needs 174 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: to be in her own space. And that's incredible that 175 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: she I have somebody like that. I mean, all my 176 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: teammates are so good about, like, you know, being these 177 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: tough you know, independent, strong women, but then being vulnerable 178 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: at the same time, and it allows you to, you know, 179 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: kind of have that space for yourself and give yourself 180 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: that grace knowing that all these amazing women that you 181 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: look up to and admire are doing the same thing. 182 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: Like you said before, knowing that there are people in 183 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: your life that you can be open and vulnerable with 184 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: really helps you show up on the days that everything 185 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: does feel like it's collapsing in around you. I feel 186 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: like this discussion easily segueing us into one of the 187 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: first questions I want to ask you as we do 188 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: a little bit of reflection over the past year, if 189 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: you had to choose a theme for twenty twenty three, 190 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: now that we are headfirst into twenty twenty four, what 191 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: do you think your theme of the year would be. 192 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I would say positivity, because there's been so many weird 193 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: things going on and I've tried to be like see 194 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: the positive factors of it all, so like breaking it 195 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: down and like, you know, Chicago was a rough one, 196 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: but finding all the things that I can learn from 197 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: it and turning it into a posit or this injury, 198 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, this injury is really tough and I'm going 199 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: through a lot, but I'm trying to find the positive 200 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: stuff that I'm like learning from it. And so you know, 201 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: Boston was such a great experience and everything went perfectly, 202 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: so trying to hold on to that and like seeing 203 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: the positive nature that that was and what went right 204 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: and kind of going off of that. So yeah, just 205 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: like trying to project positivity in order to like kind 206 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: of bring it back. So not being negative like I 207 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: think I've gotten, you know, in the past, where I 208 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: like get bogged down by you know, things that are 209 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: hard or like things that like I think are unfair, 210 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: and it's just it starts to ruminate and then like 211 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: the universe starts to like give you more and more 212 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,119 Speaker 1: and more because you know, you are kind of projecting 213 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: that and so rejecting positivity. It just I see it 214 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: everywhere now. So like even if I'm going through a 215 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: hard time, as long as like I'm staying positive and 216 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: knowing that there will be progress, I see it everywhere, 217 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: you know, And that's like such a wonderful way to look. 218 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: At the world. 219 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: And it's really easy when you have two little, positive 220 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: little animals jumping around and doing their thing. Having two 221 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: goats has been the most wonderful thing that I think 222 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: has happened in twenty twenty three. 223 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: I thought goats were going to be theme of twenty 224 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: twenty three, honestly, but I thought that you brought. 225 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: It into the full not me. 226 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: Thelma and Louise, the two goats that joined the Bates 227 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: household in twenty twenty three. I know you've talked about 228 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: them on podcasts. Before you talk about them and show 229 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: them on social media. For anyone maybe new to you 230 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: or unfamiliar with the fact that you have goats in 231 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: your possession, please tell them what prompted this decision. 232 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: So my boyfriend Steve and I we ended up buying 233 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: a house together in Boulder, Colorado, and have a bit 234 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: of land, but it's like so overgrown and like it's 235 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: just it's messy. So I thought a great idea would 236 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: be to get goats because they're, you know, natural lawnmowers, 237 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: and so he was like, yeah, like someday we could 238 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: get them, and I took that as green light, and 239 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to ended up and wind and got them 240 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: at a farm and then brought them home that same 241 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: day and then didn't tell him for a couple of weeks, 242 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: and then he came to visit and lo and behold, 243 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: we have goats now, And they were like a month old. 244 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: Had to like bottle feed them for another month, and 245 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: like they are just the kookiest little creatures ever. Like 246 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: I was obsessed with goats before, but like I want 247 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: all of the goats now. 248 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: They are so much fun. 249 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: I love the language. 250 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: So I took this as a green light, and I 251 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: decided on the same day to get some goats. Would 252 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: you say that you are a pretty impulsive person. 253 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: Absolutely, one hundred percent. 254 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: It's a problem, and they have it seems to be 255 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: by the way that you talk about them brought you 256 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: so much joy, so echoing again that positivity outlook, you 257 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: bring this positivity into your home, you're more likely to 258 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: see that not only throughout your home, but then when 259 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: you leave and so on. 260 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: Exactly. 261 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: No, I mean, it's just such a good reminder that 262 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: like to kind of slow down and live, you know, 263 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: moment by moment instead of you know, living in the future. 264 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: It just really grounds me. And just having them just 265 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: enjoy life so fully every day. Animals are just amazing 266 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: in that way, like animals children, I mean, they just 267 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: like they're so pure and innocent and lovely. So I 268 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: am just so so lucky to have them all. 269 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: Right, So theme of the year positivity. Let's go now 270 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: to proudest moment of the year. I'm interested to know 271 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: or to hear where you go with this one because I. 272 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: Have some thoughts. 273 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, proudest moment of the year, Emma. 274 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: So, I feel like a lot of people would think 275 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: Boston performance was, you know, the highlight of the year. 276 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: I I had the race for most of the way 277 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: and ended up taking fifth, which was amazing, pring by 278 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: like a minute. That was really special and a lot 279 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: of people took notice of that, and that was I 280 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: took a lot of pride in that. But I wouldn't 281 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: say that is my biggest accomplishment of the year. I 282 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: really do think that Chicago was a better performance for 283 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: me than Boston, and a lot of people don't understand 284 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: that or appreciate that. But going into Chicago was really 285 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: challenging in the like personal side of it. Like I 286 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: was just really stressed going into Chicago. We bought a 287 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: house in the summer, Steve and I, but there were 288 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: so many problems with it and I ended up being 289 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: displaced from the home for like the full month leading 290 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: into Chicago, and that was just a really stressful time 291 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: and it's hard for me to like really be in 292 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: my right mindset when I'm in my home and like 293 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: my animals are kind of all over the place, like 294 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: I had to find people to watch them while I 295 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: was staying in airbnbs and hotels and whatnot, and so 296 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: I just felt unsettled. So going into that race, like 297 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: I was really excited and very fit, but I knew 298 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: that there was some you know, underlying like stress there. 299 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: And then getting halfway through that race in like you know, 300 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: pring in the half marathon in route to you know, 301 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: the full marathon was insane, Like that was a really 302 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: big deal for me. But then hurting my foot in 303 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: the race and not only finishing that race, but finishing 304 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: it in like a two twenty five time and you know, 305 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: still one of the top Americans. 306 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: You know, I think I took thirteenth. 307 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: Like to me, that is like such a big performance 308 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: and a bigger accomplishment than Boston because I got through that, 309 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: like I was stressed and I was really injured, and 310 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: I still was able to pull through and finish that 311 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: and be proud of it, Like I look back, and 312 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm bummed that it kind of played out the 313 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: way it did, but I'm still like incredibly proud of 314 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: myself and didn't realize that I could do such a 315 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: hard task. So just finding a new level of respect 316 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: and strength in myself was probably the biggest accomplishment. 317 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: I love hearing that, and it is so interesting, right. 318 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: It's not that we can't learn from some of our 319 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 3: highest moments, but it usually is the ones that are 320 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: truly difficult, the ones where sometimes we may feel as 321 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: though there's an ounce of failure to it that those 322 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: moments are the ones that really give us something to 323 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: think about, to learn from and move forward. And that's 324 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: exactly what you did with a tough time in Chicago. 325 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean on paper, it like doesn't look 326 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: like anything to anybody, but the real ones know that, 327 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: like the stuff that I was under and like still 328 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: am under with just everything you know going on right 329 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: now is something that like really is meaningful to me. 330 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: So people can show up for you on your best 331 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: days and like that's great, Like that's awesome, but it's 332 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: on your you know, lesson ideal days or worse days 333 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: that really mean a lot to me. And the amount 334 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: of people that reached out to me and just you know, 335 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: the amount of people that like can relate to a 336 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: bad race too as opposed to a good race is insane. 337 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: So like just hearing other people's stories and knowing that 338 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: there are others out there that are going through similar 339 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: challenges or injuries or whatever they may be going through 340 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: is really something that I appreciated in this year. Is 341 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: just like talking to people and kind of like sharing 342 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: and relating stories with one another and hearing how you know, 343 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: resilient other people are, and that just gives me a 344 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: lot of inspiration and hope. 345 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 346 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: There's a statistic that's something like eighty percent of our 347 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: thoughts throughout the day somehow are typically negative, which is 348 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 3: absolutely frightening, right, So to know that yes, I am 349 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: feeling some kind of way, I'm having these not so 350 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: stellar thoughts, to know that in those situations, you are 351 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: not the only one that these vulnerable moments, these difficult moments, 352 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 3: they are generally more relatable for a reason because those 353 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: are most of the feelings, the moments that all of 354 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: us are dealing with all the regular Yeah. 355 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's so fun to do the 356 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: race recaps that I do on Instagram. I have like 357 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: a seventeen part series on you know, all my races 358 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: that I do, my marathons, and I like to share 359 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: the thoughts that are going through my head. And it's 360 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: so funny because I think these are, you know, thoughts 361 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: that everybody has. But then people start to tell you, you know, 362 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: like I didn't realize that, you know, elite runners have 363 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: these same thoughts and same you know issues going on 364 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: and troubles and hardships you know, throughout the race or 365 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, before the race even and so it's so 366 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: funny that, like we are all so connected and so 367 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: much alike, like we are all going through, you know, 368 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: the similar things when we're running a marathon, Like it's 369 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: always hard for everybody, but it's funny putting it into 370 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: into words. People are like, wow, like that's that's insane. 371 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: Like I had all those same thoughts and same feelings, 372 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: and it really is a metaphor for life. 373 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 2: That's so true. 374 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: You before you were talking about being a little bit 375 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 3: all over the place, out of your routine because of 376 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: what's going on with the house and your living situation. 377 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: I think that concept of feeling a little bit sporadic, 378 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: being a little bit all over the place, especially coming 379 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: off of the holidays, maybe not being in your normal 380 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: routine really really relatable stuff. When you aren't in your 381 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: normal routine, maybe it's because you are traveling for work, 382 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: traveling to race, or doing whatever it is. What recommendations 383 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 3: do you have for someone so that they can feel 384 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 3: better in their own body when they're out of their element. 385 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just trying to find something that 386 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: does ground you, whatever that may be. 387 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 4: It's like, I. 388 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Am really attached to my routine, so whenever I am, 389 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, at other places, like I'm at a airbnb 390 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: right now because I'm still displaced for my house. But 391 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: it's like trying to find little things to make sure that, 392 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: like I feel like a bit of normalcy. So just 393 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: trying to like I really enjoy mornings, So I've been 394 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: waking up really early in the morning to go and 395 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: work out and do my thing, and I love the 396 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: morning ritual, so like having coffee and toast and everything 397 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: like that. So just finding like little things to make 398 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: you excited to like get up in the morning, and 399 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: those are the little things that I like to do. 400 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: But if you're like on the go or traveling, you know, 401 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: I mean, just like treating yourself to whatever it is 402 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: that you look forward to, like if it's at the airport. 403 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: Like for me, whenever I go to the airport for 404 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: some reason, I have to have like a bag of 405 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: Eminem's And that's just like. 406 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 4: What I do. 407 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: And so I get excited to, like, you know, go 408 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: to the airport and get my bag of Eminem's, and 409 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: I think, I'm so like, I mean, this is so 410 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: many people but so virtualistic, and so I don't know, 411 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: I look forward to the same thing over and over again, 412 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: but I know that's what I enjoy and it does 413 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: ground me and it makes me feel like I have 414 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: a sense of control or a sense of normalcy. 415 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: Taking a break from today's episode to give some love 416 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: to the two sponsors that make this week's Turning the 417 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 3: Page series possible. 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I 450 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: have this weird tradition that whenever I'm on the way 451 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: home from a trip, I write a letter to someone 452 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: in my life. Like I have a journal that's just 453 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: letters to people. I think I've only ever sent one. 454 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: I've been doing this for I mean longer than I 455 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: can remember now. But we all have these small things 456 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 3: that are routines that help us just stay grounded and 457 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: the chaos that is going on all the time. You 458 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: shared a little bit about this post to nagging situation. 459 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: Would you say that's been one of your most difficult 460 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: moments of the year. 461 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: I think it's one of but it's mostly so with 462 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: the house situation and everything. We had, like a bunch 463 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: of leaks in the house. We brought in like a 464 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: plumping company, and they ended up finding asbestos, but they 465 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: didn't find the asbesis until there was an asbestos spill, 466 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: so I ended up they ended up having to throw 467 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: away all of my belongings. So that was really difficult 468 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: to just like not have anything in my house anymore, 469 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: like everything's gone. So that was really really tough, and 470 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: that was stressful, and that was definitely weighing on me. 471 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: But going through an injury it's hard, but there's like 472 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: progress and small, like little victories that you can kind 473 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: of like gear towards and be excited about. So I've 474 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: never been seriously injured before, but this is a whole 475 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: new adventure, and I'm like treating it as like an adventure. 476 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: Like it's exciting because you know, I get to like 477 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: test myself and test my mental fortitude or my physical fortitude, 478 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: and that is something that I've never had to do before. 479 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: So like going to our gym every day, you know, 480 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like on the bike for like two hours, 481 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: and I'm like realizing, like wow, like I am putting 482 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: in a lot of you know, time and effort here 483 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: and I'm going to see like progress eventually. And so 484 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: I have seen so much progress. And with this post 485 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: tip stuff, it's like, Okay, we're gonna have to take 486 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: some time off and get some strength exercises going. And 487 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: so I just kind of focus on those strength exercises 488 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: and try to get better at those and then kind 489 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: of see like small progresses every day every week. You know, 490 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: you're just like really focus on the here and now, 491 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: and that's kind of gotten me through the day to day. 492 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: It seems monotonous on the outside, but there's there're these 493 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: small things that you can like really focus on and 494 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of gotten me through. And that's been the 495 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: exciting part of this injury process is just like something 496 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: new every day to focus on. 497 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: Quote the exciting part of this injury process for play. 498 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry to hear about the complications with the house. 499 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 3: I cannot even fathom what it's got to feel like 500 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: to kind of start from zero. Listening to you talk 501 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 3: about your mindset despite things being in a way that 502 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 3: you hope that they weren't, it's so beautiful to hear 503 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: the acceptance of where you're at. And I believe that 504 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 3: many people this is the foundational issue, right It's a 505 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: resistance to embrace what is and wanting something that isn't. 506 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: And by being in this place of embracing what is now, 507 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: you have the upper hand. You have the opportunity to 508 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: do all of this reframing, which you're doing so well 509 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: and then learn from this difficult situation. But you can't 510 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 3: get to this place where you're actually capable of learning 511 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: until you truly accept this is how it is now. 512 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's like the beauty of it is, Like you, 513 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: there's so many things in this world that we can't control, 514 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: but we can control our attitude. And I think that's 515 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: something that you know, so many people kind of lose 516 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: sight of. It's like you could be like, oh my gosh, 517 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: I can't believe this is happening to me. It's like, well, 518 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: we maybe reframe it and be like, why is this 519 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: happening to me? And maybe I need to learn something 520 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: throughout this process and maybe this is my opportunity to grow. 521 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: And that's like something that I've always kind of tried 522 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: to reframe and get perspective on, Like when my father 523 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: died in twenty sixteen, I tried to be like instead 524 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: of why. 525 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 4: Me, why me? Why me? And why him? 526 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: Why? 527 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 4: Why are family? Why this? 528 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: And that it was more like let's see what you 529 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: know the universe kind of wants us to like figure 530 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: out throughout this whole process. And then getting a divorce 531 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, it was like, you know, I made 532 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: sure to realize, like this is happening for a reason. 533 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a firm believer, and like everything happens 534 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: for a reason. That's kind of like my spirituality and 535 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: like trying to accept what the universe has given you 536 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: and make your way through it and try to figure 537 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: out what it is that it's trying to tell you. 538 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: And that's something that has been a huge factor in 539 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: my life and has brought me to be the person 540 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: that I am today. And I'm still learning and still 541 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: growing and I'm never done learning and growing. 542 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for sharing that. It also brought you again 543 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: to goats. So really this is a win situation. 544 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: I know this is. 545 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: Kind of land mind to drop on you, but I'm 546 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: going to try it here. You know, Times Person of 547 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: the Year was Taylor Swift. If Emma Bates had to 548 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: choose a person of the Year from twenty twenty three, 549 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 3: who would Emmabates choose? 550 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she really putting me on the spot 551 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: that I know. I mean, def so as lovely as 552 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is, I don't really think she should have 553 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: been to a Person of the Year, but there's a 554 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: lot of people doing a lot more in this world, 555 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: and people that I don't even know that are doing 556 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: a lot in this world. And I think it should 557 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: be that person that nobody knows about that's doing the most. 558 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: And so whoever that may be, I don't think I 559 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: have like a specific person, But. 560 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: Who do you think has been really instrumental in helping 561 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: you keep this mindset that is so valuable. 562 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: I would say, like my teammates are always people that 563 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 1: I really look up to. My coach is somebody that 564 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: has great perspective on not just training, but on life, 565 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: and they realize that, you know, it's not just about running, 566 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: it's about you as a person and everything going on. 567 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: And I think that I've really been able to be 568 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: in the mindset that I am because of just watching 569 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: them kind of navigate through life and navigate through their 570 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: injuries or troubles or things like that. And I think, 571 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, having a very strong relationship also has helped 572 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: me find meaning and positivity in a way that I 573 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: never did before. I think being in a really healthy 574 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: relationship means a lot. I was in a very toxic 575 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: relationship for a very long time, and it just makes 576 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: you realize like how bogged down you are by that, 577 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: and like how you can't really look outward and you're 578 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: not able to extend yourself just because you're kind of 579 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: going through like this really tough you know, like time 580 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: with yourself and that relationship that is like just kind 581 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: of bringing you down and you're not really able to 582 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: see who you're meant to be or who you are 583 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: because that, you know, toxicity. So that has helped me 584 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: a lot. Also being in a relationship with somebody that 585 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: like really understands running and understands what running and life 586 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: balance need. And it's not just about performance or this 587 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: and that. It's about you know, like how you are 588 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: truly feeling as an individual and trying to build yourself 589 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: as not just a runner, but as a person and beyond. 590 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: And that has been a big difference in just like 591 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: how I view myself, Like knowing that this person thinks 592 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm so strong and so you know, has a lot 593 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: more to give than just you know, running performances or 594 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: times or this and that, even like social media, Like 595 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 1: there's just so much more to a person. So like 596 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: knowing that I am that to somebody is huge. 597 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: Again. 598 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: Sometimes you know, you say something, and it kind of 599 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: takes me aback because I'm thinking of the person who's 600 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: listening to this, and maybe they can really relate so 601 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: speaking so openly about how you feel as though you're 602 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: in a much better place now, being in a healthy 603 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: relationship with the perspective that you have now looking back 604 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: on twenty twenty and before that. What advice would you 605 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: offer to someone who feels as though maybe they're spinning 606 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 3: their wheels in the mud, stuck in something that's a 607 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: bit more toxic. 608 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Let go of that toxicity if you can. I mean, 609 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: it's really hard to become aware of it, so when 610 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: you're in it, it's really hard to see. 611 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 4: I don't know when. 612 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: Basically, like something big had to happen for me to 613 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: realize how toxic that relationship was and how rough it 614 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: was on my psyche and like my growth as a person. 615 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: So once that big thing happened, I was able to 616 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: then see things from the outside. 617 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: So many people. 618 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: Had told me about how toxic it seemed, and I 619 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: didn't listen. So it's really hard to be there for 620 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: somebody when they don't want to hear it. You're just 621 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: kind of always looking at those things in Rose colored lenses, 622 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: and that's that's really tough. So you really have to 623 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 1: take a step back in order to see what is 624 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: actually going going on. And that's so much easier said 625 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: than done. So you just have to know that you 626 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: deserve more. 627 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 4: Deep down. 628 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: We know, like I had such a gut feeling for 629 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 1: so long about how toxic this relationship was, but I 630 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't act on it. I didn't trust myself. 631 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: So I guess that's the biggest thing, is like trusting 632 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: yourself and trusting that that gut feeling, those red flags 633 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: that are you know, kind of going off in your 634 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: head are there for a reason, Like something is wrong 635 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: here and you need to either get out or change something. 636 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this even circles back to our conversation when 637 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: we were talking about injury before right and getting to 638 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: a place where you admit and come to terms with 639 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 3: what is so that you can take appropriate action to 640 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 3: step forward. These lessons that we learn, they're not isolated, right, 641 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: they happen, These moments, they happen. I'll buy albeit maybe 642 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 3: they're difficult, but for us so that we can take 643 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: that knowledge and use it. So knowing that a it's 644 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 3: completely understandable that you feel trapped or unsure or whatever 645 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: the case may be, but then be that you have 646 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 3: an opportunity to do something about that. Those are two 647 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 3: really valuable lessons to learn to then be able to 648 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: move forward. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, So now, Emma, what excites you? 649 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: What's exciting you right now? 650 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about. Like the path that I'm going 651 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: to be on is such a different path and what 652 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be on, And that's 653 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: that's always really exciting too. Like, you know, everything with 654 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: the house, you know, it's completely torn apart, but now 655 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: we get to start fresh, and now we get to 656 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: make it our own. And now I get to you know, 657 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: go and you know, buy all these different things, like 658 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: different clothes and shoes and all this stuff that like, 659 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to find the opportunities that the 660 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: world has given me. And obviously being injured isn't the 661 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: most ideal thing going into the Olympic trials, but this 662 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: is something so different and unique and I can really 663 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: not prove myself, but maybe prove to myself that I 664 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: can go through something like this and still come out 665 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: on top. However that may be. I don't really care 666 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: how I do at Olympic trials. But I just want 667 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: to do my very best and know that like I 668 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: laid it all out there, I did everything I could 669 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: along this way to get to that starting line in 670 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: the best way that I could. So that's that's something 671 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: really just making me excited to get up in the 672 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: morning is just like what is today going to bring? 673 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: You know, Like I don't know. It could be bit good, 674 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: it could be bad, but let's just let's just see. 675 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: And that's that's life, you know, like you never really 676 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: know what's. 677 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 4: Going to happen. 678 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate the thought process on I'm going to 679 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 3: do what my best is on that day. Meeting again 680 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 3: yourself with where you're at. It's so easy to hold 681 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 3: ourselves to either a previous standard or maybe something that's 682 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 3: not entirely rooted in realism, Right, but just show up 683 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 3: in February and say today I'm going to give what 684 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: I have in this moment. There's a lot of grace 685 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 3: and that's just a really beautiful approach to have. 686 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think because I'm so happy in my 687 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: personal life, like even with all this chaos going around, 688 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: like I'm still the happiest I've ever been so realizing 689 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter the outcome on that day, Like 690 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: I'm still going to be that same person. I'm still 691 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: going to be happy and like have all these wonderful 692 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: things to go off of, and it's not just yeah, 693 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: one race doesn't define you. 694 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: We love happy. Emma. 695 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 3: You said you're on trajectory right now that is completely 696 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 3: different than you ever imagined. 697 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 2: How so. 698 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never been injured before, so this is 699 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 1: like such a different thing for me. And I kind 700 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 1: of envisioned, like, you know, from the previous Olympic trials, 701 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: like I really thought I was going to make that 702 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: team in twenty twenty and I didn't, And I thought, 703 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, like if I just you know, put myself 704 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: into training and get better, that it was just going 705 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: to happen, like, you know, just naturally. But it makes 706 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: you really like just because you you know, you put 707 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: in the work and everything, doesn't mean like you have 708 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: entitlement to it. So again, there's all these people vying for, 709 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: you know, a top three spot for the Olympics, and yeah, 710 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean it could go to anybody, and that's something 711 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: that you have to be okay with. And I don't 712 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: think that's a mindset I would have had if I 713 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: didn't have an injury going into it. I don't think 714 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: if Chicago went the way it did. I think if 715 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: I performed the way that I could have, like on 716 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: my best day, I think I just would have been like, 717 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah, this this spot is mine, like the top 718 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: three spots. So it levels you, you know, it humbles you, 719 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: and it makes you realize, like you know, the marathon 720 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: doesn't owe you anything, the world doesn't owe you anything. 721 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 1: You have to keep like, you know, grinding it out 722 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: and work hard and at the end of the day, 723 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 1: your best is all there is. And so that's again 724 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: just a beautiful thing to learn about life, you know, 725 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: Like I just I'm just trying to keep that rhythm 726 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: of just you know, as long as I do what 727 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: I can, that's it, you know, that's all. 728 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 4: I do. 729 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 3: The best you can with what you have. What is 730 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: something that you want to do more of? In twenty 731 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 3: twenty four. 732 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: It's since, you know, with this injury and with all 733 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: the house stuff and everything, my mind has just kind 734 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: of been a little lost, and I haven't been able 735 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: to like extend myself to others, and I just really 736 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: want to help others more and more. And I really 737 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: was hoping to do that in this new year, but 738 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: with everything going on, it just kind of set me 739 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: a little bit back. And that's always what I want 740 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 1: to aim for, is like be a voice for people 741 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 1: that you know don't have one or maybe aren't able 742 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: to voice what they really care about. And I want 743 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: to do that. I know that I have such a 744 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: great platform on Instagram and beyond, and I think that 745 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: I can really make some changes. I just need to 746 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: figure out what those changes need to be or want 747 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 1: to be, or wherever we need it in this world 748 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: or this facet of life, like running is such an 749 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: incredible community, and I feel like once you spread one thing, 750 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 1: like it's just like wildfire. I'm really passionate about women's 751 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: rights and just trying to get more involved in empowering women, 752 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: not just like women's rights, but just like uplifting women 753 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: as much as I can. So if I can do 754 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: that even a small way, like that's something that I'm 755 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: really excited about in this new year, is just you know, 756 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: making sure other women know that you know, you don't 757 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: need to dim your light. We all can be as 758 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: shiny and sparkly as we can be and that's that's 759 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: what's going to make this world a better place. 760 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 3: Well, I know your sponsor at ASEX is definitely listening 761 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 3: to this, so let's definitely figure out how we can 762 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 3: empower some more women in twenty twenty four. You know 763 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 3: that that's where I'm at too, and it would be 764 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 3: so fun to do it together. Right now, I'm looking 765 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: at the beginning of twenty three, you have an opportunity 766 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: to offer yourself a piece of advice. Knowing what you 767 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 3: know now at the top of twenty twenty four, what 768 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 3: do you tell yourself. 769 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 4: Progress is inevitable? 770 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 3: Ooh, how would you say progress has been inevitable for you? 771 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: This year? 772 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: Whenever I feel stuck or I feel like things aren't moving, 773 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: I start to reflect and realize how far I've come, 774 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: So not just in this year, but over like, you know, 775 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: my entire lifetime. You have to look back and realize 776 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: like how far you've come and not just you know, 777 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: I try not to look at just performances, but as 778 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: a person and how much I've grown, you know, emotionally, spiritually, 779 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: all these things. And it's just like it's a really 780 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: beautiful thing to realize that we're if you're not growing anymore. 781 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: I feel like there's something wrong. You're not looking inward enough, 782 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: you're not experiencing enough, you're not putting yourself into challenging circumstances. 783 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: I think we always need to challenge ourselves in order 784 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: to grow. So as long as you're doing that, progress 785 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 1: is it's going to happen. 786 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 2: I love that, Emma. 787 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 3: For those that don't follow along with you just yet, 788 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 3: give us the details? 789 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 2: How do they keep up with you? 790 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: On social mostly just Instagram? Emma Janelle Bates is my handle, 791 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: so check me out there. There's a lot of race recaps. 792 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: But I'm also hoping to spread some information about, you know, 793 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: being injured and kind of going through that process. When I, 794 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: you know, am through this injury process, it's hard to, 795 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: like when you're in it, to like educate people enough 796 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: on like what to do when you don't know what 797 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: you're doing. So once I figure out like the best 798 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: possible route that people can take for something that I'm 799 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: going through, I'm going to share that. 800 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 2: She's going to share it. 801 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another 802 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 3: Hurdle Conquered. 803 00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.