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Speaker 1: Welcome in Texan All Access Players Edition. I'm Indi klu

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Speaker 1: Here is Mark Vandermer, the voice of the Texans. And

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Speaker 1: sit into my right my Nigerian American brother. I should

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Speaker 1: say nephew since I got him by about nineteen twenty years.

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Speaker 1: But Dara Gum joining us for the Players Edition. Welcome

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Speaker 1: in and thanks for taking time on your off date

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Speaker 1: to hang out with.

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, appreciate you. Like you said, my

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Speaker 2: niger butter is good to be here.

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Speaker 1: It was great to have you. I've been wanting this

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Speaker 1: for about two years now, so I'm glad you finally

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Speaker 1: made it. And unlike most Nigerians, you're on time. Man.

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Speaker 1: When they told us that you know we're going to

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Speaker 1: do the show together, I said, okay, he'll be here

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Speaker 1: in about two hours. But you're on time, so appreciate it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I had to be here. I had to be here.

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Speaker 3: Good to be here, man.

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Speaker 4: All right, So tell us about I know the game

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Speaker 4: did not go according to playing. You're a nice game though,

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Speaker 4: but I know it's not about that, Dara. So how

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Speaker 4: do you process though a loss moving into a new week?

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Speaker 4: Chance to get that coveted win and get the loss out?

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Speaker 2: Of your memory exactly. That's exactly what it is. Get

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Speaker 2: a chance to write the ship. You know, Sunday was tough.

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Speaker 2: You know, we a good team, really good team. We

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Speaker 2: played against tough environment to play in loud so all that,

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Speaker 2: all that kind of was different.

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Speaker 3: But now we get a chance to be back.

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Speaker 2: At home a divisional opponent and like I said, get

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Speaker 2: things going back on the right track. So a lot

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Speaker 2: of optimism still in the locker room.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Just know that we had a lot to fix and

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Speaker 2: everything we did was fixable. So it'll be a good

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Speaker 2: game this Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about the ups and downs of

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Speaker 1: a season, obviously riding high after the first couple of

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Speaker 1: victories and a big loss. But with your career, you

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Speaker 1: talk about perseverance, going back from college, being a walk on,

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Speaker 1: then going undrafted and now you've doubled the career average

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Can you kind of talk about some

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Speaker 1: of the disappointments but the faith that you had in

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Speaker 1: yourself knowing that hey, I deserve to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean, shoot, you don't got time to

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Speaker 2: talk about all the disappointments. You know, earlier in my career,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just a lot of doubt, you know.

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Speaker 2: You just never know what if the goals and the

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Speaker 2: dreams you have or ever really come to fruition, you know.

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Speaker 2: But like you said, just a lot of faith in myself, man,

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Speaker 2: just a lot of a lot of confidence knowing that

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Speaker 2: I belonged. Whether I was in college. You know, I

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Speaker 2: knew I was a scholarship player. Even in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You know, I knew even when I was a practice

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Speaker 2: squad guy, I knew I was good enough to be

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Speaker 2: playing on Sundays with the other my teammates. So all

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Speaker 2: that stuff kind of goes through your head and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. And now, obviously being in my eighth year

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Speaker 2: never all those, like you said, all those disappointments and

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Speaker 2: doubts that I had. Never forget those because it makes

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Speaker 2: where I'm at now just that much better.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying this because you're here. But

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge football fan. You know, I didn't just

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Speaker 1: play it, but I always like reading up on players

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Speaker 1: when I'm watching the games, and those are the stories

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Speaker 1: I personally appreciate more. Being a fifth round pick, cut

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Speaker 1: after my second year than going on to play twelve years.

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Speaker 1: Like there's something to that versus And I'm not knocking

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Speaker 1: it because I sure would have loved to have been

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Speaker 1: there's something to that where you're like, nah, you're not right.

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be I'm supposed to be be here.

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Speaker 1: When you were in college and you walked on, did

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Speaker 1: you at some point earn a scholarship?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, pretty early on.

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Speaker 1: But that's huge. What was that like?

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Speaker 3: Like, I was special?

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Speaker 2: I mean like coach you did in the team meeting

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Speaker 3: And then just that conversation with my parents.

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Speaker 2: That was the best part, you know, because they I

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Speaker 2: him that I was on scholarship for the rest of

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Speaker 2: my college career is a special feeling.

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Speaker 3: Man. I'll never forget me and my.

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Speaker 2: Boy Jack we got put on scholarship the same day

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Speaker 2: and we still talk about it. You know. It was

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Speaker 2: just a special feeling, like you said, just obviously being

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Speaker 2: the first round, it would been great, but it's just

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Speaker 2: part of the story, man.

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Speaker 3: It makes it that much sweeter.

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Speaker 4: So what was it like when you get to the

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Speaker 4: Texans twenty seventeen. You're at the Greenbrier at the Cay

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Speaker 4: and there you are, but you end up with two

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Speaker 4: So what was all that like, dari As, You're going

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Speaker 4: through that process thinking I can play in this league.

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Speaker 4: I just need a shot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was different, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I'm very grateful. I had some some good mentors at

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Speaker 2: the time, just telling me, like your rookie year, you

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Speaker 2: I kind of went into it with that mindset. You know,

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Speaker 2: some guys think that they got drafted and they got

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Speaker 2: undrafted to a team that'll be there for their whole career.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I kind of knew that it was my chance to

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Speaker 2: It was a different experience. It was a tough camp

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Speaker 2: and ended up being unpracticed squad, and then from practice

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Speaker 3: And it was good, man.

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Speaker 2: Finally, like I said, just getting my feet wet in

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Speaker 2: the in the NFL, you know, getting getting a special

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Speaker 2: like I said, just getting that tape out there for

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Speaker 4: Did you realize special teams is a great path for you?

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Speaker 3: I realized that in college.

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Speaker 2: You know that I got put on scholarship, you know,

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Speaker 2: just being a walk on a Wisconsin You're gonna play

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Speaker 2: you got to excel at special teams. So that was

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Speaker 2: kind of embedded in me early in my career. So

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Speaker 2: I knew in the NFL will kind of be the

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Speaker 4: You think sometimes guys like you have an advantage because

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Speaker 4: you recognize that early in college and a lot of

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Speaker 3: It's a blessing man. I talked to coach Herring.

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Speaker 2: My special teams coordinated that Wisconsin all the time, just

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Speaker 2: because those late round guys, regardless of if you were

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Speaker 2: special teams in the NFL. So just having that kind

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Speaker 2: I was just a better special teams player than them

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Speaker 3: So it definitely was an advantage for me.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I watch you, I see a football player,

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Speaker 1: you know, coming out of high school, some of these

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Speaker 1: There's a I can't remember what other team it was,

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Speaker 1: but there was a game where you were just punishing

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Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this guy can do it all.

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Speaker 1: And Mark touched on it. Playing special teams in college,

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Speaker 1: I can tell that it kind of groomed you and

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Speaker 1: that's why you have this lasting power. But let's get

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Speaker 1: back to the Texans. Because you jumped around you played

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Speaker 1: for multiple teams, this team looks special being on the

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Speaker 1: outside looking and can you kind of just talk about

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Speaker 2: It always starts with the quarterback man the CJ he,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's special. Seven is special and very lucky

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Speaker 2: and have him be in our quarterback But with that,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a lot of confidence in the

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like guys get signed here and they've like, we

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Speaker 2: just because we have so many quote unquote big names,

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Speaker 2: then with Demko leading us man and Bobby dialing it up,

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Speaker 2: we like I said, very very confident in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's the biggest thing to have right

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Speaker 4: With CJ, When did you really start to realize, Okay,

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Speaker 4: this is it, this is the guy in the huddle

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Speaker 4: early last year. Was there a moment or two? How

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Speaker 4: did that all go down?

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Speaker 3: Darr Well, I would definitely say during camp.

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Speaker 2: You know, during camp last year, you just kind of

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Speaker 2: get you get the vibes and of guys that have

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Speaker 2: been around football a long time. You feel it the

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Speaker 2: way he calls the plays, you know, even just the

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Speaker 2: way he interacts with the guys. But I mean, I

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Speaker 2: would probably say most people it was the Tampa game,

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Speaker 2: you know, when he let us down that last drive

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Speaker 2: and he's just in the huddle just smiling, you know,

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Speaker 2: have forty some seconds to go down the field.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: But that I feel like that is when everyone kind

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Speaker 2: of knew, you know, it just knew that this guy

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Speaker 2: is he's got something different than a lot of guys

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Speaker 2: don't have.

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Speaker 1: When they named him and Will Anderson captains, I didn't hate.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't hating, but I was I just never heard

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Speaker 1: of that before, you know, rookies being named captains without

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Speaker 1: giving away things we don't deserve to know own the

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Speaker 1: locker room. What kind of you talked about it on

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Speaker 1: that play that drive, But what are the other qualities

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Speaker 1: where y'all said it's vets like, hey, these are captains.

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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like I said, it's the leadership. For one,

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Speaker 2: that's being having the confidence to speak up, you know,

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Speaker 2: when things aren't going right. That's always the biggest thing.

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Speaker 2: But it's also kind of like leaders are servers, you know.

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Speaker 2: They they're ones that want to do the dirty work,

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Speaker 2: do things so that other guys don't have to do it.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like that CJ and will to a t.

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Speaker 3: It was just something that we always knew that, like,

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Speaker 3: at the end.

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Speaker 2: Of the day, everything was a competition, you know, and

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Speaker 2: especially in sport, everything's competition is about winning and losing,

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Speaker 2: and the only way to win is to put in work,

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Speaker 2: you know, to put in work to get there. And

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Speaker 2: it's not you don't just get you don't just get

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Speaker 2: w's just off of nothing. You know, you got to

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Speaker 2: put in a little bit of work beforehand to get

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Speaker 2: to win. So that's one thing that I'll never forget

447
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Speaker 2: that my parents told us when we were younger.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you said nothing unhealthy, But nowadays so many

449
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Speaker 1: things my father saying, dude, you know, some of these

450
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Speaker 1: soft parents would be calling. And I remember some occasions

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Speaker 1: after a soccer practice where he felt like I wasn't

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Speaker 1: competing and he yelled and screamed that, you know, and

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Speaker 1: me all the all the way home. But I just

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Speaker 1: thought that was normal. He loved me, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I just thought that was normal. And it helps you

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Speaker 1: when you get those coaches that are like that. So,

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Speaker 1: but the one thing I did want to ask. Typically

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Speaker 1: a lot of Nigerians come, they come to Texas, New York, California.

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Speaker 1: How I end up in Milwaukee?

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Speaker 2: First off, I will say I had a lot of

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Speaker 2: those conversations. After the car ride. I sit in the

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Speaker 2: back seat behind the driver's seat so he.

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Speaker 3: Can't see me.

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Speaker 2: But no, I don't know how they end up in Milwaukee. Man,

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Speaker 2: my dad when he came to America, I believe you

466
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Speaker 2: went to Detroit first, and then he moved to Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: because there were a couple of Nigerians that he knew there,

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Speaker 2: and then he ended up going to get his masters.

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Speaker 2: But so I don't know, Man, I don't know because

470
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Speaker 2: Milwaukee's climate is not nowhere near leg climbing, So I

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Speaker 2: don't know what he was thinking when he when he

472
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Speaker 2: came there. But that's all we knew growing up was

473
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Speaker 2: the cold in the snow. Now that I've moved away

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Speaker 2: from it, I can't see myself moving back. But my dad,

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Speaker 2: my parents, they love it still.

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Speaker 4: They love it there.

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Speaker 3: I love it, man.

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Speaker 2: I'll go back right after the season help him shovel

479
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Speaker 2: and he has the biggest smile on his face. I

480
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Speaker 2: don't make sense to me, but he loves it there

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Speaker 2: and it's uh, like I said, it's great.

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Speaker 1: The smiles not for shoveling. It's because you're back. He's

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Speaker 1: so proud of that, just looking at you smile and

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is. So have you been back?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've been back.

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Speaker 2: Not in years though, man, me and my sister have

487
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Speaker 2: been planning playing a trip to get back there, honestly,

488
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Speaker 2: but I haven't been back since I was in the teens,

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Speaker 2: I think fifteen or so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, quick time out, we'll get back to it.

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Speaker 1: Dar sitting in Players Edition, don't touch that dial, Welcome in,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Texans All Access Players Edition. He's Mark Vandermer.

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Speaker 1: And now since Darre gles here, I got to give

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Speaker 1: you my old name indicate DK kylu instead of just indeed,

495
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Speaker 1: we got to put it all, put it all out there.

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Speaker 1: Now it's dary short for it.

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Speaker 2: It has to be short well oluadmil.

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Speaker 3: But this is my birth certificate. But a LUI dary

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Speaker 3: is on my license stuff.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so you still got one of the.

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Speaker 3: Long names going up.

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Speaker 4: Here's a little tougher end. Oh dig a little tough.

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Speaker 4: Travis does it well though, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh so Travis Johnson. I don't know if you know him.

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Speaker 1: He's another former player. He's also a neighbor, good friend.

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Speaker 1: Long story short. Every time he sees me, he says

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Speaker 1: the full name, but loud. We'll be at hg B,

508
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Speaker 1: like we'll be at ahg B. And this is just

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Speaker 1: who Travis is. Love him to death. I'll be at

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Speaker 1: HB with my card. We live in the same neighborhood

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Speaker 1: and he'll just yell, got a thunder and he just

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Speaker 1: yelled it out, and I'm like, man, we're about to

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Speaker 1: get a rested so yeah, but he has a lot

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Speaker 1: of pride in that and always but you're right, Mark,

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Speaker 1: Travis definitely always says the full name.

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Speaker 3: He has the full day.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, the team has you know, Kami has a

518
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Speaker 4: long first name. I've said it before. I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to say it right now. We'll wait till we have

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Speaker 4: him back on the show at a future time, all right.

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Speaker 4: Mattress Firm has a special feature now your night before

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Speaker 4: routine for a game, and I imagine it's different home

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Speaker 4: and Road. But Mattress from the official sleep partner of

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Speaker 4: the Houston Texans what do you think, Darry.

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Speaker 2: Night before we team meeting, and then I'll go to

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Speaker 2: my hotel room.

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Speaker 3: I usually watch a lot of tape.

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Speaker 2: That's usually when I get the bulk of my tape

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Speaker 2: watch is the night right before, so I watched that,

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Speaker 2: might get some ice cream down at the end of snack,

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Speaker 2: and then after I finished that, probably just turn on

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Speaker 2: the hotel TV.

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Speaker 3: They ually don't have.

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Speaker 2: My Netflix or anything, so I gotta like watch Modern Family.

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Speaker 3: Or Law and Order or something like commercials exactly. You

536
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But it gets the job done me. Yeah, it's real chill, man.

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Speaker 2: I'm usually sitting down off my feet. My parents they

539
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Speaker 2: get to travel to a bunch of games, so if

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Speaker 2: if it's one of those games that they came to,

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Speaker 2: I'll be able to kick it with them in the

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Speaker 2: hotel lot before a little bit. But yeah, that's usually real,

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Speaker 2: real quiet, real real smooth night man.

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Speaker 4: Do you watch college games? You could be honest, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: The last couple of years I have been I haven't

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Speaker 2: been watching too much college Just for the state that

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Speaker 2: my college football team is now, I haven't had too

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Speaker 2: much excitement to watch it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 4: All right, So that's the alma mater. But so you're

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Speaker 4: not gonna watch an SEC game it's a big game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's a big game like number top five

553
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Speaker 2: matchup or some usually I'll watch it, just because most

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Speaker 2: of the guys will be watching it down in the

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Speaker 2: in the meal room.

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Speaker 3: But to be honest, not really. I don't really watch

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Speaker 3: too much.

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Speaker 4: College and clear your head of the football and watch

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Speaker 4: some Modern Family or whatever. All right, what about it's

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Speaker 4: Monday night now? This week Monday Night was Jacksonville Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: You're next to a.

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Speaker 4: Police so that's pretty valuable. But average Monday night NFC

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Speaker 4: two teams were not playing. Would you watch that?

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Speaker 2: I would usually watch it, man, I'm usually watching Monday

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Speaker 2: night and Sunday night football. It's hard not to, Man,

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Speaker 2: I just love watching football so much. I love watching

567
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Speaker 2: professional football, the best players playing. But that I mean,

568
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Speaker 2: I'll find myself watching Winwoen's championship. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I just love watching the best of the best play.

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Speaker 2: And not nothing against my college homies, because they'll get

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Speaker 2: there one day. But it's just something about watching the

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Speaker 2: best of the best play.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm glad he brought that up because

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Speaker 1: they asked me a couple of weeks go and I

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Speaker 1: mentioned that I can't speak for all players or former players.

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Speaker 1: Do you prefer playing primetime games or twelve o'clock? Like?

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Speaker 1: For me, I like twelve because I like to wake

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Speaker 1: up and just you know, get into the routine. But

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Speaker 1: I know some guys like playing under the spot.

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Speaker 2: So the yeah, I will say, I prefer the twelve

581
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Speaker 2: o'clock game if I can make the twelve o'clock game

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Speaker 2: b primetime like cause I do. I just you do

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Speaker 2: love the primetime element of it. It's just way in

584
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Speaker 2: all day to play. Nobody want to do that, but

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Speaker 2: it's the fact that you know, like everybody in the

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Speaker 2: country's watching like it is. It's a different adrenaline that

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Speaker 2: you get. But like I said, and I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: wait till eight pm to play a game.

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Speaker 4: So you've got prime time this year though, no question.

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Speaker 4: We already had one with the pairs, and you're gonna

591
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Speaker 4: have road at the Jets and at the Cowboys this

592
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Speaker 4: year Monday night or but during the day. Is that

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Speaker 4: weird because you talked about your pregame night routines. During

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Speaker 4: the day you take a nap, you can't take anything,

595
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Speaker 4: but you probably get antsy. How do you handle that?

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Speaker 3: You got it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think I got to take a nap

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Speaker 2: because otherwise I'm just sitting around because you're not like

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Speaker 2: you can only watch so much tave like, especially on

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Speaker 2: game day on me, I can I can only just

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Speaker 2: keep watching the same plays over and over. So I

602
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Speaker 2: feel like I have to take a nap otherwise That's

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Speaker 2: exactly what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, on.

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Speaker 2: Game days for a night game, man, you just gotta

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Speaker 2: stay busy. You have maybe on FaceTime, a bunch with

607
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Speaker 2: the family. Just find is finding different ways to stay busy.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's not the idea in my.

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Speaker 1: Opinion, it's weird. You actually get tired waiting around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why you do have to take that nap.

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Speaker 3: Agreed.

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Speaker 4: All right, So let me ask you about the backfield

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Speaker 4: here and the style of offense that the Texans have

614
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Speaker 4: and how different is it for you when you look

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Speaker 4: at different systems you've been in, and you know, obviously

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Speaker 4: you were here in twenty twenty two and that was

617
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Speaker 4: a pretty productive year running the football with Damien and you,

618
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Speaker 4: But talk about how it's different and some of the

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Speaker 4: important things that you have to watch out for. I know,

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Speaker 4: you're in there in third down a lot, but you

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Speaker 4: also carry the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a different, different team, man. And everyone

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Speaker 2: talks about the outside zone scheme, the Shanahan style like.

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Speaker 3: And that's real.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It is definitely a different way of running the ball,

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Speaker 2: But I feel like the benefits of it are when

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Speaker 2: you get an offense that are everyone's clicking at the

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Speaker 2: same way, everyone's moving the same way. I mean, you

630
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Speaker 2: just there's some big holes there. You know, there's definitely

631
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Speaker 2: big lanes to run. Be Sawy that with Joe week one.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we definitely it's different than a lot of

633
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Speaker 2: schemes that are around the league, a lot of schemes

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Speaker 2: that I've been in personally. But just the upside of

635
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Speaker 2: it is just it's there, and it's there. We all

636
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Speaker 2: feel it, and we know that we're a few a

637
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Speaker 2: few little tweaks away from just being consistently just running

638
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Speaker 2: the ball at our wheel.

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Speaker 3: So that's what we're excited about.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're working towards, and just kind of, like

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Speaker 2: I said, dialing in all those details and that technique all.

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Speaker 1: Right, stepping away from football for a little bit. As

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Speaker 1: you can see, we go back and forth. You know,

644
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Speaker 1: during this podcast, favorite Nigerian dish.

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Speaker 3: Everything, I feel like, say, what is it?

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Speaker 1: You give? The first of all, every mother prepares a

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Speaker 1: different differently. So you go to a Nigerian restaurant and

648
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Speaker 1: you say, goosey soup. Sometimes there will be a great restaurant.

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, it doesn't taste like on mom's. So

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Speaker 1: the different spices, spinach it had, it's a brownish color

651
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Speaker 1: and you you dip fou fu or ground rice. You know,

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Speaker 1: we call it ground rice or food food. Just think

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Speaker 1: of rice mushed up and you dip it into the

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Speaker 1: soup and eat. Yeah. And to tell you the truth, Mark,

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Speaker 1: that's a great question. Outside of the spinach, the peppers,

656
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: and we put a hand different chicken hand or depends

657
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: on it depends on you. I don't know what else,

658
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: what else is in the flavoring.

659
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: I don't know how to make it. That's what I

660
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: don't know how to make. Okay, my mom they made

661
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: it for me growing up. But rice is another one

662
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: that most would say, but for me, it's a goosey

663
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: soup of food food.

664
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: So growing up. Did your parents americanize the day menu

665
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: in the household or was it still a lot of

666
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: Nigerian food.

667
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: It was a mix. It was a mix with my family.

668
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 4: Were making craft macaroni.

669
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: Exactly.

670
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: It was a mixed back and forth.

671
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: Man.

672
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: My mom she's an amazing chef as well, so she

673
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: she would make whatever she wanted.

674
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: So it was it was. It was a good mix.

675
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: We our family, Like my cousins would always come over

676
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: to our house because they knew that it would be

677
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: some good for dinner every time.

678
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: So it was definitely a good mix.

679
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: This may happen in every community, but I know it

680
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: definitely happens in the Nigerian community. Do your parents kind

681
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: of have to keep people at bay because everybody wants

682
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: a piece of dark for your sister, whether it's a

683
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: third cousin who needs you to.

684
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: Send money back home, everybody knows, like you want to come,

685
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: hit me up, ask my mom. You want tickets, ask

686
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: my mom. You know, that's that's just how it always is.

687
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: And it's like we will have big parties, big functions

688
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: and stuff for everybody to come and celebrate with us,

689
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: for sure, But it's definitely I mean, like you said,

690
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: you gotta kind of pick and choose because it can

691
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: get hectic.

692
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you must have gotten better at handling that

693
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: over the years too, right, for sure, as time goes on.

694
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 4: I want to go back to early days being a

695
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: pro football player, and we mentioned it three different teams

696
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: your first year, how hard is it to learn the playbook?

697
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: And you know, is there ever a moment where you're

698
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: in the huddle, especially early, where it's what is the

699
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: wait a minute?

700
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: What they just call?

701
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: Check? Check with the quarterback to make sure I got

702
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: this right?

703
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: For sure? Definitely, I mean early in the league.

704
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like everyone's gonna have those those adjustments,

705
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: you know.

706
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: I was, I was, I.

707
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: Do pretty well picking up playbooks, And I mean I've

708
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: had to do with so much in my career. Even

709
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: in college, I had three different head coaches, so I've

710
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: had to do with so.

711
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 3: Much of my career just learn the new playbooks.

712
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: But being a running back as a rookie, you're standing

713
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: right next to the quarterback, so you can quickly just

714
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: play what I got so that that always helps a

715
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: little bit.

716
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: But it's tough the poor receiver.

717
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: I know, you and an island man, you better just

718
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: run your best route. Nope, you right, So it's yeah,

719
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: I would say that I pick up the playbooks pretty quickly,

720
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: and that was That's definitely an advantage of mine throughout

721
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: my career, just being able to be trusted by the

722
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: by the coaching staff, knowing that I'll be in the

723
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: right place.

724
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: But it's tough, man, It is tough.

725
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: And you hear these different is these different type of offenses.

726
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been in offenses that the quarterback had

727
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: to read to read it off of his wristband just

728
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: because it was Some of these plays are just too wordy,

729
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, they're just so wordy, and you got to

730
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: listen to so many different things to know where you're going.

731
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: So it's tough. It's tough.

732
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 4: It's got to be. I remember I did an event

733
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: with Matt shob once and somebody We're doing Q and A,

734
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: and somebody said, tell us a play, just go ahead,

735
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 4: and he did, and I thought, are you kidding me?

736
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: You guys at allowed stadium have to pick that that

737
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 4: what if yours are syllable, everything goes wrong.

738
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: Right, and sometimes one syllable could be a completely different thing,

739
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: you know, one letter so and like I said this

740
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: past weekend, it was pretty loud in Minnesota. So that's

741
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: definitely something that that's an obstacle that we got to

742
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: do with.

743
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you feel like whatever you went through a

744
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 4: Minnesota that could make you better, right, because that could

745
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: sharpen the census and hey, next time, we'll do it this,

746
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: whatever the case is exactly.

747
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: It's being this early in the season.

748
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: Obviously, you love to learn from a game like that

749
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: after a win, but we lost and it but it's

750
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: something that we will definitely be able to learn from

751
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: just our operation, all the stuff that goes into because,

752
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: like you said, you got primetime games coming up with

753
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: some big games on the road as well, so we

754
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: definitely got to be able to hone in on some

755
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: of those things that went wrong in Minnesota just to

756
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: make sure they don't happen again.

757
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: How do you have three I'm trying to do the math.

758
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: How do you have three different head coaches?

759
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

760
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: I know, even if you were there for five years.

761
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: I know.

762
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: So my freshman year will get there. Coach Bieling will

763
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: recruited me. He leaves after freshman year after the Bigton Championship.

764
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: Then we get Gary Anderson for two years and then

765
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: Paul Christ for two years.

766
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Wow. So yeah, it's weird all these things that at

767
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: the time they feel like struggles, but it's really setting

768
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: the stage for your success because having to learn three

769
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: different offenses, that's going to help you when you get

770
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: to the NFL. Having to play special teams where most guys,

771
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: even late round picks, don't play it in college, it's

772
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: going to help you in the NFL. So it's interesting

773
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: hearing your story and things that at time where it

774
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: might be a struggle, it's just setting the stage for

775
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: you to have.

776
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: You see it the same way I do.

777
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: Like all those things were lessons for me, man, and

778
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: that's how I've always just even in my life just

779
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: outside of football, I just have always tried to look

780
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: at the glass half full. And at the time, yeah,

781
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: that sucks.

782
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: The guy that.

783
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 2: Recruited me is gone. Now now I got to impress

784
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: a whole new coach. But that's what I had to

785
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: do in the league, you know what I'm saying. So

786
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: I learned how to do it back then and able

787
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: to do it now and it's been beneficial for me.

788
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: I count seven NFL head coaches you've played for plus

789
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: to three in college. So that's ten. That's pretty strong,

790
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: such a big roster of coaches. But tell me, so

791
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: you played and three head coaches here because twenty seventeen,

792
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: but O'Brien, you had Lovey, now you have Demico.

793
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: So that's interesting.

794
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: But what about having played for the Jags. When you

795
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: take on a team that you played for, especially them

796
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: in the division, and you started here, you end up

797
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: there for a while couple of years, so you're playing

798
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 4: them and in twenty two you beat them. All right,

799
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: we beat them down there, and we all know what

800
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 4: happened last year you split with them. But what is

801
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: it like to play a former team, a team that

802
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: employed you.

803
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: It's always cool, man, especially when there's still guys there.

804
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: I mean the players.

805
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: It's always good to see the players, but even like

806
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: the staff, you know, like you'll see the trainers that

807
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: helped you out through a dark time or something like that.

808
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 2: It's always great just to see them again and smile

809
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: with them.

810
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: You know.

811
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: It's always a blessing, man, And it reminds you, like

812
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: I said, it reminds you where you've been, you know,

813
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: your whole story like that. Jacksonville had some good times

814
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville for sure. You know, made some good plays

815
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, and so being able to see those guys

816
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: and smile with the math of the game is always

817
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: going to be fun. So I'm looking forward to that.

818
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: I always get a chance look forward to that. But

819
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: like you said, being in a division, I mean, they

820
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: know me well anyways, just from playing each other twice

821
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: a year, So I'm gonna be a good It would

822
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: be good.

823
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: You were there the Urban Meyer year, I was, but

824
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: you could tell us one or two things about that year.

825
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 4: It must have been very interesting.

826
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 3: It was. It was interesting, man, it was it.

827
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: It felt like we were in college again, you know,

828
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 2: just just the way he and he's a good coach,

829
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: I mean, definitely was a good coach, a good motivator,

830
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: really good motivator. It just the vibe was it was.

831
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: It was.

832
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: It was interesting, especially if we had a rookie quarterback.

833
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: We just drafted him. So it just felt like a

834
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: big college vibe there. And and some guys liked it,

835
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: you know, some guys definitely liked it. Others, you know,

836
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: it's our it's our job, you know, it's our profession,

837
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 2: and we don't really want to feel like an eighteen

838
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: year old again you know, so that way, not in

839
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: that way. So it was it was uh, like I said,

840
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: like I enjoyed Jacksonville a lot.

841
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: I liked the first season of Jacksonville more than the

842
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: one with Urban out.

843
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: Just say that tell us about pass protection. So you're

844
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 4: in the backfield and a dy Kalu comes along. He's

845
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 4: trying to get out of the quarterback and you got

846
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: to pick him up. You have to pick up some

847
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: guys who are large individuals, and I gotta think that

848
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: getting the right guy is a big part of the issue. Right,

849
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 4: some guys are better than others. It pass protection in

850
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 4: the backfield.

851
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: It's tough. It is tough, and you see it a lot.

852
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: You see it a lot just guys one missing their

853
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: blocks and you know, losing a block.

854
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: It's a tough technique.

855
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: You know. Coach Barrett great coach man, one of my

856
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: favorite coaches I've ever had, and he really is a

857
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: fundamental type of guy, a technique guy and really push

858
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: you in good situations. And like you said, and one

859
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: thing he says is the hardest thing about past pro

860
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: is knowing who to block. Because nowadays these defense, I

861
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: mean defenses a crazy nowadays. So sometimes you just your

862
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 2: eyes are all over the place. But Coach dB tells

863
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: you in a very good way. He teaches you how to,

864
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: you know, just eliminate guys that you don't have, you know,

865
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: and you kind of can be able to focus on

866
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: the guys that you do have.

867
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 3: And so he.

868
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: Helped me out with that a lot, and that's become

869
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: one of my biggest strengths in the league throughout my

870
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: career is just being able to be a past pro guy.

871
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: This just came to me, and for those that don't

872
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: know who are listening, pass pro past protection when the

873
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: running back blocks for the quarterback very very important part

874
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: of the running back game that people overlook. Just being

875
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: on punt block help with that. Because the one year

876
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm just so I sucked a special teams. I thank god,

877
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, I was able to find teams that didn't

878
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: need a backup defensive end to play much special teams.

879
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: I was horrible, and I wanted to, like, you know,

880
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: similar to what y'all talked about coming out of Rice,

881
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, one of the small schools. I didn't play

882
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: special teams. But when I got to the NFL, you know,

883
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: all the Vets Hey, you got a good special So

884
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: I went with the right mentality. But y'all are crazy

885
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: and you got to have a couple of screws loose

886
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: to play special teams. So I say that to say,

887
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: when I was on punt and block all the twists

888
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: and turns.

889
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: So does that help? Would past protect big time? The

890
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: technique is the same essentially. I mean, tight hands, you know,

891
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: slow feet, but quick eyes you know.

892
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: All that's the same.

893
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: So definitely helps me being able to be good at

894
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: both of them, both both units. So yeah, it's it's

895
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: a big It's a big part of my career. And

896
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: like I said, I've had a lot of coaches along

897
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: the way kind of put me in good spots for that.

898
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 2: But like I said, dB is one of the best

899
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: at it.

900
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 4: So Danny Barrett, you want to talk about having been around,

901
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 4: he's been around so and he was a head coach

902
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: in the CFL while he was playing. And yeah, and

903
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: do they did the guys in the room know that

904
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 4: he set a record for completions in a Great Cup

905
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 4: that's their super Bowl, and did all this stuff? Did

906
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: they ever look it up?

907
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: Exactly?

908
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: So when with Rex was here, me and Rex we

909
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: made sure that we gave dB as flowers just because

910
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: he would always talk about his time playing, to talk

911
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: about his time playing, and.

912
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: We were like, let's let's look it up.

913
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: And so we finally looked it up and we brought

914
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: some stats back to him, and he was even impressed

915
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: with some of this, because, I mean, the man is

916
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: a go over, probably forgot about. He's a great story

917
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 2: career man. And now he's been a very successful coach

918
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: in the league. He's, like I said, he's one of

919
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 2: my favorite coaches I've ever had, and like you said,

920
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 2: I mean, very successful quarterback and coach in the league

921
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: in the CFL.

922
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: All right, quick time out, One more segment to go,

923
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: Texans All Access Players Edition. Dar sitting here with us.

924
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: Don't touch that down. Welcome in, Welcome back. Final segment,

925
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Texans All Access Players Edition. I'm Indy Kalu. He is

926
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: Mark VanderMeer Dara football player, not just a running back,

927
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: not just a special team but all around football players

928
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: joining us on his day off. So, speaking of days off,

929
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: what's your day off ritual? Like, do you get the massages?

930
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: Do you get the treatment with you exactly?

931
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: So I would have been in the state in many

932
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: ways been at work anyways. You know, I'm one of

933
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: those guys that will come in, get my massage, get

934
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: a little extra lift on my own, and just kind

935
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: of do some treatment stuff on my own, just to

936
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: make sure I'm feeling right from the game and then

937
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: feeling feeling good heading into Wednesday's practice.

938
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: Now, now you mentioned Netflix, how you don't have it

939
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: in the hotel the night before a game. I'm a

940
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: Netflix guy as well. What are some of your favorite

941
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: series right now?

942
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: We've just finished, uh, it's it was another murder mystery show,

943
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: like a limited series.

944
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: I forget what it's called.

945
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: We just finished that little six episode pretty good, had

946
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: us on our toes guess guessing, trying to guess who

947
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: the killer was. And then besides that, I'm just usually

948
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: the old I'm trying to find the classic comedy movies,

949
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: you know, something just to put on in the background.

950
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 4: What is a classic comedy movie to you? Give me

951
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: a couple of I don't.

952
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 2: Want to Friday quite often, always just throwing on Friday.

953
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: Maybe put the hangover on or something so not not

954
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: maybe not.

955
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 4: A classic class Now classic?

956
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: What about coming to America? Have you done the original one?

957
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: The original okay, original, See all right, this is a

958
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: Man of the World, right, the original. You gotta go

959
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 4: to the original, right. I watched Part two. I started

960
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 4: it and I just it's not like I'm avoiding it,

961
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: but it's just, you know, everybody's there, like we have

962
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: everybody in the room. Somebody forgot a script.

963
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: What happened? The best part of the best part of

964
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: part two Coming to America was the nostalgia scene, right. Yeah.

965
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't great and it was during COVID, if I remember,

966
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: it was like watching.

967
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: The reunion from a show. It was good vibes, though,

968
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 3: great vibes.

969
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 4: So you played for the Jags during COVID, Yeah, so

970
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: I like asking players about this because it's over. What

971
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 4: was that like for you? Bizarro world?

972
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: Right?

973
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: Sorrow man? It was? It was. It was funny, man.

974
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: It was just like the whole contact tracing, like, oh,

975
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: I spent ten minutes next to nd I've lad have

976
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: got to get shack, you know like that that Oh

977
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: that was crazy, like the Zoom meetings, like paranoia paranoia guys.

978
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: It was it was wild West, man.

979
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: It was funny. Like I said, it was funny. That

980
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: was just unprecedented in the league. Something that you never

981
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: feel like you'd have to deal with. After practice, they

982
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: were rushing you out of here. Don't take a shower,

983
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: take a shower at home. Like all the times, just

984
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: the craziest stuff you'd ever hear. But like I said,

985
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: it was just being It's one of those times where

986
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: you just got to come come together with your teammates. Man,

987
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: just get through, get through a tough time together.

988
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: Kind of strange because you go through all that caution

989
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 4: and then now go hit somebody.

990
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: Exactly, and they do the whole little they tried to

991
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: do the face mask under your face out.

992
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: It was a wild, wild times. But I'm not gonna

993
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: glad we're done with that.

994
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you survive through it as a player exactly.

995
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 4: What is your advice to young players? Guy comes through

996
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: the door, maybe undrafted, maybe drafted late rounds or whatever,

997
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 4: anybody really saying, hey, what's the secret? I mean, here

998
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 4: you are eight years in what is the secret or

999
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 4: two of sticking around for so long? What would you

1000
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 4: tell them?

1001
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: Really?

1002
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: My biggest thing I always for myself is the playbook.

1003
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: Always just know the playbook in and out. Man, know

1004
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: your jobs. And I say jobs plural because usually you're

1005
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: gonna have multiple you know, and just know them in

1006
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: and out and that whole jack of all trades master

1007
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: and none thing like you can be a master of

1008
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: multiple trades in the NFL. And that's just always been

1009
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: my things. Just know your job in and out and

1010
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: then after that, I mean, just play fast, you know,

1011
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: play with conviction, play confident. But that also comes with

1012
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: knowing your job, you know. So that's been my thing.

1013
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: And a lot of guys they'll try to do too

1014
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: much or they'll just not even do what they're asked

1015
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: to do. So that's been always been my thing, is

1016
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: just know what you're asked to do and do it

1017
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: and do it to the best of your abilities. So

1018
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: that's been my own model for myself. So I'll probably

1019
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: tell a young guy that too.

1020
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: What do you enjoy the most about being on an

1021
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: NFL football team?

1022
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: The older I get, man, and it's it really has

1023
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: nothing to do with football. But like I said this,

1024
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: my parents, bro, just them being able to travel all

1025
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: over the country and watch me play.

1026
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: I get emotional every time.

1027
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: Bro. It's just like it's this special feeling, you know,

1028
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: just seeing their pride and you know, just their and

1029
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: their happiness, you know, watching me and my sister plays.

1030
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: But like I said, watching me play, So the older

1031
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: I get is that's what it is for me, man,

1032
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: And honestly, it's a dream come true. And like always

1033
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: wanted to be in the NFL. But like the older

1034
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: I get just seeing them, you know, on the sidelines.

1035
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, can't beat it.

1036
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 4: What a gift you've given them, really to be able to,

1037
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: you know, provide that that opportunity for them to watch

1038
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: you of course, proud parents, you and your sister. That's

1039
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 4: fantastic stuff. And I know there's more to life than that,

1040
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 4: but that's awesome. So Darr years down, years down the

1041
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: line when it's all said and done, because look at

1042
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: this guy over here. He eventually had to stop playing

1043
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 4: too after twelve years. What are you thinking here?

1044
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: Who knows?

1045
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: Man?

1046
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: Who knows? I have so many interests.

1047
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: You know, before, like I was a walk on, so

1048
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: the NFL was not like a thing for me colle

1049
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: so before I was always said I wanted to go

1050
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: into financial planning and real estate.

1051
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: So I know somebody.

1052
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: Just disseim interning with that in college. So but I

1053
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: mean now it's just I've just gained so many interests,

1054
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: met so many people that I don't know, Man, I

1055
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: don't know what what lane I would like to go into.

1056
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: Probably probably will go back and get my masters. That's

1057
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: probably where I'll start, and I just kind of see

1058
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: from there.

1059
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: What's cool about that when you retire, even if you

1060
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: play another five six years, you're still a young man,

1061
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: so you don't have to put the pressure on yourself.

1062
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: And then if you've you know, created a ness egg,

1063
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: there's not going to be this, oh, I have to

1064
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: do something next year, so you'll be fine. And it

1065
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: was cool that you talked about your parents and seeing

1066
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: the joy in their faces. When I talked to a

1067
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: lot of my buddies who retired and we just sit

1068
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: back and we reminisced. Most of our stories don't even

1069
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: have anything to do with what happened on the field,

1070
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: like what we miss most like for me, when I

1071
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: talk to people the flight home away game after victory,

1072
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, look, you already finished my saying, it's like

1073
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: there's something special by that plane right home, especially if

1074
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: you're still healthy. You won the game just that right,

1075
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: So like one advice I will give, just enjoy that

1076
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: because those are.

1077
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: The question and Jaxon. We won a game in London.

1078
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: That's a long time.

1079
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1080
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: Those those are the memories right there, for sure, for sure.

1081
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: All right, so do you have a message if you

1082
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 4: could make one for the fans here? It's week four

1083
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: playing the Jags Division. The place was lit for the

1084
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 4: Bears game Sunday night. Now we got a good old

1085
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: fashioned noon kick AFC South meeting potatoes affair. What do

1086
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: you think here?

1087
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: First off, thank you guys for showing up to the

1088
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: Bears and that was a blast and we loved it.

1089
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: And like I said, it's long season, man, and we

1090
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: need you guys for this one too.

1091
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: Division opponent.

1092
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: You know, these are the games that matter the most

1093
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: for us, man, so we need them. We need the

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Speaker 2: fans and we need them and we got we got

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Speaker 2: a good one coming, good one coming Sunday, good product

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Speaker 2: gonna be in the field.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's gonna do it for US Texans All

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Speaker 1: Access Players Edition, dar real quick. Your sister's team. Who

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Speaker 1: were they playing next?

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Speaker 2: Or it was a it was a down year for

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Speaker 2: the Dallas wings man, but she'll be back with the.

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Speaker 1: How often do y'all do you all talk about the games?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, we talked. I mean, I'm probably the

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Speaker 2: person she talks to about it the most. So it

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Speaker 2: was just a rough season. Man, it was she I mean,

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Speaker 2: let me let me plug my sister real quick. Second

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Speaker 2: in the league and scoring first and stills first and

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Speaker 2: minutes that was U necess necessity thing. Highest free throw

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Speaker 2: percentage of her career. She led the league ninety two

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Speaker 2: percent from free throws special year four.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I couldn't really get the wins that

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Speaker 2: they needed to be in the playoffs, but very very

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Speaker 2: proud of it.

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Speaker 1: But someone like you, who always sees the bright side

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Speaker 1: of things, this allows her to come to your games

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Speaker 1: and we all, right, do we appreciate you, not just

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Speaker 1: what you do here on the pod cast, but what

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Speaker 1: you do on the football field, because it's tough to

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Speaker 1: play all the different positions that you play, and that's

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Speaker 1: going to do it. For today's show, Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: Players Edition,