1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: What's up? 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks? DJ Buck with you Buck? 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: How are we doing? 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Man? We're good. Dj uh, We're in it. I don't 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: know if it's a game week for your son this week. 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: But you have Thursday. Man, we got we're we're out 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: in the desert. We're on Palm Desert on Thursday. 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: Who you're playing? Oh? You tell me. 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be like one hundred and five. 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Oh hydra Shoot. 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm tempted to go get the man. Some IV's like, 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: good night, Yeah, you guys play. You guys play Friday. 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing. I am Thursday, Thursday Night, Thursday night. 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah. 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 17 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: Are we ready to go? We gonna throw it this year? 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Or no? We throw it maybe the last half of 19 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: the year with a little more okay last Yeah, we're 20 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: gonna throw it. We throw it around the yard. I 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: can't say it's gonna be airy, but maybe maybe handful 22 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: of the throwers every now and then. 23 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: This is my favorite part of the of the Fall 24 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: is just waking up on a Saturday morning and looking 25 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: at the Granada Hills charter box score my favorite. 26 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: So, speaking of the Fall, you turn me on to 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: the Netflix series. I can't stop watching. 28 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: Oh is it unbelievable? 29 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: I can't stop watching any given Saturday, like like DJ 30 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: it is so great and I love ball and look, 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm an ACC guy played in the ACC. But I'm 32 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: bey honest with you. Going behind the scenes in the SEC, 33 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: an animal just is just a different animal. The intensity, 34 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: the way they get down, the hides and the lows, 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: the way the coaches are And I'm gonna say this, 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: and I'm look, I consider Brian Brian Kelly your friend. 37 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: The frustration that he exhibits coaching that team, right, like 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: watching him coach that team, I'll say this, and maybe 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: they turn it around this year. I just don't know 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: if it's a great fit, like in terms of like 41 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: how he goes and how they I just don't know 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: if it's a great mesh. When I think about what 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: he was and how many times he sat on our 44 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: program at Notre Dame and how he talked and the 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: kids did he just I just don't know if it messes, 46 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, especially after seeing some of the behind the 47 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: scenes stuff that they were dealing with. I don't know, 48 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: but this is great man, Shane Beemer stuff, Clark Lee 49 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: and Vanderbilt. I just love it, man. I just love 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: the access because that would draw you in. And I 51 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: absolutely see what you talk about Diego Pavia what I'm 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: saying like he might not be a pro, but I 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: certainly would be intrigued hire him by having that personality 54 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: because when you talk about the thing that we have 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: said has become the new thing that everyone is looking 56 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: for at the secret sauce, the love it, the love 57 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: it factor is there with him. 58 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: No, it's a fantastic series and it just gets you 59 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: fired up for college football, which is coming up this weekend. 60 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: By the way. Uh just that I wasn't scheduled to 61 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: do this when we're going to get to the NFL stuff. 62 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: On a second, I peaked. I called a couple guys 63 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: and I couldn't help myself, and I was like, hey, 64 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: I give me a couple give me a couple of 65 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: names of some college like before the season starts. Who 66 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: could I get fired up on that? Maybe's not getting 67 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: you know, a ton of buzz, but like who's a 68 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: good player so I can spin through it real quick? 69 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: So there is a tight end. Buck at Ohio State 70 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: transfer from Purdue Max Claire. So you're gonna see that 71 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: big first game Ohio State Texas, and it's gonna be 72 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith and they got the freshman quarterback, Julian saying, 73 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: you got some of their stars, Caleb Downs on the 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. I'm just telling you, don't 75 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: be surprised if we come back together after that game 76 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: and we're sitting there going, like, dude, that tight end 77 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: from Ohio State is pretty dang good man. He is 78 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: really good. 79 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's funny when you talk about a rich 80 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: getting richer. I love this part, Like it's funny, DJ 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: because we always are in tune with the college game 82 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: because of the draft in those things, but it's a 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: little harder with everyone bouncing around in those things. But 84 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: there is still something you talk about the athlon magazines 85 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: or seeing all the magazines that would be in the 86 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: drug stores, or when you go into the airport at 87 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: the college preview, there's still something about the college game 88 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: that is magical and mystical. Abortion Like, I just love 89 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: that part of it. We talked about playing the video game. 90 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: I would play the college football game because there's so 91 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: many different styles and ways about going about it. There's 92 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: just nothing like college football. Nothing, There's nothing that I 93 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: can find that matches that energy, intensity and the fandom 94 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: that people bring each and every weekend. 95 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: Well, you're just not going to see NFL games. You're 96 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: not going to see a pan of the crowd, and 97 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: you're not going to see people crying during regular season 98 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: games tears buck flowing, I mean, living and dying every 99 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: single week. 100 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Everything, the rivalry games, just all of it, 101 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: like just people talk about the pageantry and there's some 102 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: hokey pokiness to it, but there's there's nothing literally literally. 103 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: Like the Tennessee Titans had the number one pick and 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: they could you know, they could go out and beat 105 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles who won the Super Bowl, and nobody's 106 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: tearing down the goalpost or storm in the field. Buck 107 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: ho hum? Who do we play next week? 108 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: No, none of it, none of none of the you 109 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: talk about rushing, the feel, none of the I mean, look, 110 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, like watching those coaches go through it 111 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: every game is like a maylox mash. 112 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: Everybody that thinks those guys are so grossly overpaid and 113 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: it's insane go watch that seriously, see what goes on 114 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: behind the scenes. Man Living and Years after Life, Sam Fittman. 115 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: I guess Sean Biemer's wife talks about not wanting to 116 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: go out when they lose, stay in the house all 117 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: week week. But just yeah, we have the groceries delivered. Yeah, 118 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: that is a different that's a different animal. 119 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: No question. Al Le's get some NFL stuff. It's time 120 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: for Hot or Not, brought to you by with Sabby 121 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: Hot Cloud Storage. We've got a couple of starters named. 122 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: We've got Joe Flacco named in Cleveland, and then the 123 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: one that came down a little bit before we started 124 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: recording here was Indianapolis colt Daniel Jones. I don't think 125 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: either one of us are surprised in the least with 126 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: either one of those. I guess maybe nationally or some 127 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: fans maybe you know, thought, oh, maybe they'll go with 128 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: the Richardson because he's just a high pick. I didn't. 129 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: I never thought that, And to me, this was this 130 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: was just, this was inevitable. 131 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: This is a mere formality. Like I knew Daniel Jones 132 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: or I expected Dan Jones to be the starting quarterback 133 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: from the jump as soon as he got signed. Given 134 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: the pressure that is on the head coach and the 135 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: general manager to win, you don't go and get Daniel 136 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: Jones and pay him the money that you paid him 137 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: and expect him to be the backup. And then when 138 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson opened the door, I mean through no fault 139 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: of his own, maybe some would say, but maybe through 140 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: his fault not being able to understand the protection. When 141 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: he goes to the sideline with a dislocated finger, I 142 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, there it is, roll out the red carpet. 143 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: Here comes Danny Dimes to be the starting quarterback. And 144 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: then in Cleveland, in Cleveland, I think this is a 145 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: case of just the familiarity, the confidence try us that 146 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: you have in Look, the guy who led you to 147 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs two seasons ago played really well down the stretch. 148 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: You've seen him thrive in your offense. And even though 149 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: the paper says that he's forty, your eyes tell you 150 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: what you saw two years ago when he got this 151 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: offense up and going. It's not a surprise. The mystery 152 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: to me is gonna be who's QB two? Because when 153 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski says they're not keeping four quarterbacks, did. 154 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: He actually come out and say they're not keeping four. 155 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: He intimated He intimated that they weren't going to keep 156 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks, But I mean, how do you keep for 157 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: if you keep four? I mean I can understand it 158 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: because I'm be honest with you, DJ, you don't have 159 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: a rookie as your backup quarterback behind Joe Flacco. Joe 160 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Flacco's forty. I mean, even though we talked about it 161 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: going well, he's a play away from a rookie kind 162 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: of holding all of their hopes. Are we confident that 163 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabrielicia, Dr Sanders ready for that role those responsibilities. 164 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: But then the other thing is, all right, Pikett has 165 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: it played the entire preseason? Like, how do we make 166 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: a decision on it? If you know? 167 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, I'm fascinated to see what happens with it. Man, Yeah, 168 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: this is the quote Gavin who's producing for us now 169 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: hit in the chat. You know, I'd like to keep everybody, 170 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: but not realistic so interesting interesting. Nonetheless, my thing is 171 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: I just still don't know where Kenny Pickett, how that 172 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: works and fits in there because I don't know this. 173 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to sound harsh, but if they cut 174 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett and keep the two rookies, as you say, right, 175 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: because you want to keep you don't want to lose 176 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: the rookies. You want to keep developing them and working 177 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: with them. If something happened to Joe Flacco, can you 178 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: go out on the street and find someone that's at 179 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: least of similar ability to Kenny Pickett, at least in 180 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: that range. I mean, there's gonna be guys that are 181 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: going to be available and be cut here, and there's 182 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: gonna be guys that are put on practice squad betteran guys. 183 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: But is there not going to just be a veteran 184 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: stop gap that if those rookies weren't ready to play, 185 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: you can go on the street. I mean they did it. 186 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: They did it when they brought in Joe Flacco the 187 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: first time. 188 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you can do that, but it's 189 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: like that's the way that you really want to operate. 190 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: I guess, let's look, there's no there's no I mean, 191 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 2: I go back to the Indianapolis Colts and the Peyton 192 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: Manning years and Tom Moore and Tom Wore is the 193 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. They asked him, how do you divy up 194 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: the reps? And he said, I give Peyton Manning one 195 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: hundred percent of the reps and they said, well, well 196 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: what happened. Why why don't you give the backups anything? 197 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: Because what if something happens to Peyton Manning. He goes, 198 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: if something happens to Peyton Manning, we're screwed. I don't 199 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: want to practice being screwed. So that was his, uh, 200 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: his kind of like famous line there like that, Okay, yeah, 201 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: if emergency, well that we're done, like if Joe Flacco 202 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: can't play and we have to play rookies, then maybe 203 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: they're looking at that saying, well, that's not going our 204 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: way anyway. So you know, it is what it is. 205 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is bad, this is hope, is a 206 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: bad strategy. Let's wrong. 207 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: I just I just you know, I would like their 208 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: thing is we're not going to cut one of these 209 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: rookies because they have upside and promise and we need 210 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: to roster both of them because we don't know what 211 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: they are yet. Whereas with Kenny, like Kenny, yeah, he's 212 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: still young, hasn't played a ton, there's still growth there, 213 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: but I think he's a little bit more known. So 214 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't you rather work and develop the unknown? I don't know. 215 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: That's a tricky situation there. But to answer the original question, 216 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: no surprise at all that Joe flackos the start they 217 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: didn't really have a choice. 218 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Now they didn't have a choice either way. So in 219 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: both situations, DJ like I think they were stating the obvious. 220 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Now that we know, I think the conversation in both 221 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: cases we've talked about Dylan Gable and Shuder sand is enough. 222 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: We know that the Browns are in rebuild mode, identification 223 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: mode when it comes to a franchise quarterback. But for 224 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: the Coast, I don't know what this means for Anthony Richardson. 225 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: You know he's talked about he's one play away. I 226 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: got to presume on one play away from me in 227 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback again. But man, this has to be 228 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: very disappointing if you're the organization. Fourth overall pick hasn't 229 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: been able to stay on the field, and when he 230 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: has been on the field, it's been madly inconsistent. Where 231 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: do we go from here? And this is one where, 232 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, DJ, every reaction causes a reaction. This is 233 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: one where it was tools over performance and production. 234 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: And even experience, and. 235 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: The tools haven't won out right, now, so what does 236 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: that mean for the next Toolsy player that comes out 237 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't have the stuff because it hasn't really gone 238 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: well for the tools he guys. Right, we can talk 239 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: about Anthony Richards and in a way you can talk 240 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: a little bit about Trey Lance with the lack of experience, 241 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: but the tools that you saw, we've just seen experience matters. 242 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 1: Doesn't necessarily work in Kenny Pickt's favor. But for a 243 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: lot of the guys that have had immediate success and 244 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: to sustained success, they played a lot of college game 245 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: and those reps translated into success. 246 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: I think even though these guys had played a lot, 247 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: I think that this all goes back to Mahomes and 248 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: Josh of guys who were freak show talents still needed 249 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: to be developed, still needed, you know, work to be 250 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 2: done there at the next level, and they hit massively. 251 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: You know, you've got MVPs. Uh, you've got Super Bowls 252 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: obviously with Mahomes. So I think that that talent over 253 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: everything has still carried on for a long time. But 254 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: I mean, like Zach Wilson hadn't played a ton, you know, 255 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: but had a lot of raw talent. Krey Lance hadn't 256 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: played a ton, had a lot of raw talent. Like 257 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: we can go all through the through the list of 258 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: guys here, Anthony Richardson is just one of the one 259 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: of the latest here. But I think the you know, 260 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: it's why you can't just have universal rules. You've you've 261 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: got to evaluate each of these guys individually, and you've 262 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: got to evaluate the person as much as the player. Buck. 263 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to do that. You have to. 264 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 1: We talked about it's the intangibles, it's the qualities on 265 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: the inside. Is how you show up to work every day? 266 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: Is how much do you love it? And does your 267 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: love your love translate into these actions and habits that 268 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: we want to see from an player, Meaning you show 269 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: up early, you stay late, you do all the film, 270 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: you do all the other stuff that you need to 271 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: do in the building and away from the building to 272 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: put yourself in a position to succeed and play at 273 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: a high level when you get your chance. Because if 274 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: I am in evaluated, if I'm a decision maker, look, man, 275 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: I'll go down with someone who is like that. 276 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: Right. 277 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: If someone gives me everything, they pour everything into it 278 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: and it doesn't work out. But if You're a talented 279 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: guy and the work has him been there will now 280 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: I have no place for you because you haven't given 281 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: me your hard day's work that I can back you 282 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: and support you when all of the criticism comes through. 283 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: I think now more than ever, you better find guys 284 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: that love it and their actions match their words when 285 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: it comes to saying they love it. 286 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: So, if I was if I was advising Anthony Richardson, 287 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: if I was a friend and agent, parent, whatever, this 288 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: is the two pieces of advice I would give them. 289 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 2: Number one, for still, I would say greater than fifty 290 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: percent chance that either do to injury or performance, you're 291 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: going to get another opportunity on this Colts team this year, 292 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: So you know, do not let up, stay up with 293 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: your preparation, get ready to go, because you're more than 294 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: likely going to get another opportunity there. If you're on 295 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: this roster, I would think that's you know, the odds 296 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: of either Daniel Jones getting nicked up or Daniel Jones 297 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: having some performance issues. There's a good chance you get 298 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: a chance to plague in this year, so you better 299 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: be ready for it. The second thing I would tell 300 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: you is thinking from a long term perspective, Buck, We've 301 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: now seen it. We've seen it with with Baker Mayfield, 302 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: with Sam Darnold, with Geno Smith. This is not the 303 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: end of your journey, man, like you have everything still 304 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: to accomplish. You're still very young. I've seen it, and 305 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: I think Trey Lance is in year five, Trey Lance 306 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: look like a different human being under Jim Harbaugh and 307 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: with the Chargers, there is I mean he's got a chance. Yeah. 308 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: Look if if he doesn't get an opportunity next year 309 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: to go compete somewhere, I'd be surprised just with the 310 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: flashes that he's shown and the improvement that he's shown 311 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: this year. So it's not over, is what I'm getting 312 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: at with Anthy Richards. 313 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: No, and when you're someone that's drafted as high as 314 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: he was, you can get multiple bites at the apple 315 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: because one man's trash is another person's treasure and the 316 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: thing that you have with him. We talked about the 317 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: tools and the trades. There's always going to be someone 318 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: that is willing to take on a quarterback project, particularly 319 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: as an off season thing. Let's be honest. So you 320 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: don't get bored, right, if you have a veteran you 321 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: have a veteran quarterback who is well established and is 322 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: doing this thing. You want someone in the building that 323 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: you can start to work with and build on, and 324 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: maybe you get a cheap option. You see it right 325 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: now when you're looking at Trey Lance and what he's 326 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: been able to do with the Chargers and how he's grown, 327 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: and how that kind of invigorates everyone that is touching 328 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Because you have justin Herbert there, there's a 329 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: path for him. But I'm gonna say this, Anthony Richardson 330 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: should pay close attention to how Daniel Jones goes about 331 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: doing his work and really master the art of being 332 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: a profession I was started there. I would say, master 333 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: the art of being professional. Watch what his routine is 334 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: as he gets ready for a game week. Because he's 335 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: been in this for a long time. What can I 336 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: steal from his routine or how he goes about his 337 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: work week? Because we always ask those questions to quarterbacks, Hey, 338 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: what's your week look like? How do you get ready 339 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: to play? Maybe, and let's be fair, maybe Anthony Richardson 340 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: needs someone to model that form so we can take 341 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: that in and have his own process. I've heard Alex 342 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Smith talking about how Chase Daniel passed along Drew Brees's 343 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: program and process for getting ready and how he showed 344 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: that to Pat Mahomes and how it goes. We all 345 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to prepare how to play, 346 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: and once we get their routine, it allows us to 347 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: play at a high level. 348 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to continue to grow even if you're 349 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: not on the field. So that's a good challenge there 350 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: to Anthony Richardson. All right, that was this week's Hot 351 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: or Not segment, brought to you by with Sabby Hot 352 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: cloud storage, store more and do more with your data. 353 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: Try them for free at withsobbi dot com. Buck take 354 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: quick pause here, come back this topic. I want to 355 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: hit you on here some new offensive coordinators, what their 356 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: offenses look like, and why we might see some big 357 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: time turnarounds in a couple of locales would get to 358 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: that right after this, my Bucks. I was watching the 359 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: Bears the other night and everybody saw Caleb Williams look great. 360 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: Look Pageent came in, he looked great. It's a different 361 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: look on offense with Ben Johnson. I don't want to 362 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: read too much into the preseason, but there is something 363 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: to get to with what that looks like. And then 364 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 2: also did some study and some homework on the Seahawks 365 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: and watched their first two games. Offensively with Clinton Kubiak 366 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: at the helm, Sam Darnold's in there, they've upgraded that 367 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: offensive line, Gray's Abels playing lights out. But the topic 368 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: I want to hit you on, it's just how important 369 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 2: it is marrying your scheme with your talent. And at 370 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: least from the preseason, these look like great fits in 371 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: Chicago and Seattle. 372 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I got to say this, man, because I did 373 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: a deep dive on Caleb Williams yesterday. Like I just 374 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: watched and watched all the throws, watch how they operated. 375 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: So I watched the cut up and then I watched 376 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: the game action, and I'm gonna say, DJ, You're right. 377 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: You talk about marrying assistant to suit the talents of 378 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: the player. That's what the Bears have done. And I 379 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: know what people will say, Hey, they're playing against the 380 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: backups and those things. And as we say, the preseason 381 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: doesn't count, but it does matter. You want to see 382 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: noticeable progress and strides from your top players, particularly young quarterbacks. 383 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: And what I saw is Ben Johnson put Caleb Williams 384 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: in an offense that suits his talents. They went up 385 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: on the center early so a little bootlet come out 386 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: to play to his athleticism. In the offseason they went 387 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: and got another tight end, Coston Lovelin, to match up 388 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: with Cole Camet. So where did the first three completions go? 389 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: Tight end, tight end, tight end, right down the middle 390 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: of the field. And the thing that I'll say this 391 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: watching Caleb Williams comfortably attack the middle of the field, DJ, 392 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: you and I know that there's hidden yardage in the 393 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: middle of the field if you can be good at 394 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: being able to play that cat and mouse game with 395 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: the underneath linebacker. Is where hey, you put a little 396 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: cheese and every time they eat the cheese and you 397 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: hit the dig right behind it. Kayla Williams was doing it, 398 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: and I think it's not only the concepts, but it 399 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: was the discipline, the detail where it was on time 400 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: and it was on target. That's the Kayla Williams that 401 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bear signed up for when they made them 402 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: the number one overall bit. 403 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also love one of the most simple 404 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: things you'll hear people talk about it on broadcasts all 405 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: the time, But like you always say, you want to 406 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: see the ball go through the hoop. Like I always 407 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: talk about, ah, man, just get let's let's let's ease 408 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: into it. Let's not jump into the deep end. Let's 409 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: ease in here. Get me some completions, let me find 410 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 2: a rhythm. And if you can do it on the move, 411 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: even better because just kind of it just kind of 412 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: calms you down. First play, boot lay up flat like okay, 413 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: we're cooking, and then it just kind of gets you 414 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: into a rhythm, into a flow of the game. And 415 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 2: I think, really good play colors understand how to get 416 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: quarterbacks comfortable and help them get into that rhythm. But 417 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: I'm looking at that team and I'm looking at an 418 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: interior offensive line that's upgraded. You look out and you 419 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: across the landscape, and Luther and Berdon got loose a 420 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: little bit later, has had a great camp. DJ Moore, 421 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: You've got two tight ends, Like, there is a lot 422 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: of different ways they can hit you. 423 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: Look, man, they they are hitting you in. So it 424 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: wasn't just like a taking advantage of the tight ends. 425 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: It was Ben Johnson putting a scheme in but still 426 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: utilizing the premise players over plays. Yeah, so it's not 427 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: just the designs. It was man, okay, I saw the 428 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: ball early go to the top players, Coaston Lovelin, I 429 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: Dncy Cole commit. Oh, DJ boy gets two. You know 430 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: the only one who didn't touch it early in that 431 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: drive was Roma Doonzak. But the switch route. 432 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: He's been nails all camp. Everything that you hear and 433 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: see and read has been awesome. 434 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the switch route that he ran for the touchdowns 435 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: is the cass DJ. 436 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: I't even mention him. 437 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, just like they set it up, they run 438 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: the switch they catch him at man coverage, they run 439 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: the switch route, so now they put him in favorable 440 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: leverage when the DB's on the outside, so when he 441 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: breaks inside, he has an advantage. And I was like, oh, yeah, 442 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: this is gonna be problematic. 443 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: And look, man, Ben Johnson was in his bag and 444 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: it was just subtle because you know he has so 445 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: much more, but it was just seeing Caleb kayleb Williams 446 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: in rhythm. 447 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to make too much of it, but 448 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: it was super positive watching it. And later on I 449 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: just want to mention I saw Brian dave All getting 450 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: his bag with Jackson dark. Look. I don't want to 451 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: say this, but I feel like Russell Wilson is going 452 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: to be in the corner like. 453 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: Just try and try and trying to. 454 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: Survive, just trying to fight them all. But when we 455 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: talk about marrying system and player, I'm seeing dad in 456 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: New York with Jackson dark, just like I saw it 457 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: in Chicago with kayleb wi. 458 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: So on the dark thing, I've said this and I 459 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: think we're on the same page. We're going to see 460 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: more Jackson Dart than Russell Wilson this year. Is just 461 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: a matter of how much Russell Wilson gets before that 462 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: keys the carget handed over. But the thing with the 463 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: Giants is the defense is going to be good, especially 464 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 2: their front could be potentially dominant. And so if you're 465 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: the head coach, you're saying, Okay, I know, I know 466 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: he's young. I know Dart might not totally be ready, 467 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: but man, just with his leg, just the component of 468 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: his athleticism, if we can manufacture a couple we don't 469 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: need a lot. Man, can we manufacture seventeen to twenty points, 470 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: you know, protect the football, playfield position, he runs around, 471 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: makes a couple of plays like, man, we could be 472 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: you know, we could be able to save ourselves here. 473 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it look so here here's the thing, right, And 474 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: I've said that it's funny how quickly time flies. If 475 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: Brian Dabolo is able to lead the Giants to the 476 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: playoffs with Daniel Jones, he absolutely can do it with 477 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: Jackson dark because at the time that Daniel Jones led 478 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: the Giants to the playoffs, he had a fifteen to 479 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: five touchdown to interception ratio. They did a great job 480 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: of running the ball, taking care of the ball, some 481 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: selective pass plays Daniel Jones, but he utilized his legs. 482 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 1: What I saw from the Giants the other day was, 483 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: honestly man a hyper version of the old Miss offense. 484 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: I saw quicks, I saw slow screens, I saw rhythm throws, RPOs. 485 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: And I was sitting there like it's not a regular 486 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: season game. But I'm sitting here saying, if he can 487 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: go fourteen for sixteen operating an offense that is very 488 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: similar to the offense that he ran in college, while 489 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: utilizing his legs, why wouldn't you eventually hand him the 490 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: ball and say, if my defense is going to keep 491 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: the score down, we can get a running game. And 492 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: I know how to play with this kind of player. 493 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: I know how to play with an athlete, and we 494 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: all have a sweet tooth. DJ. There's certain things that 495 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 1: we like, right, Some people like pies, so we were 496 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: like cakes, donuts or whatever. Brian Daboll has a sweet 497 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: tooth for an athletic quarterback. You give him an athletic quarterback, 498 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: he can make happen. We saw with Josh Allen, we 499 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: saw parts of it with Daniel Jones, Jackson Dart. He 500 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: can make work. I'm confident that this is going to workout. 501 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to see it. And we'll see how 502 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: long before that that move gets made there. I mentioned 503 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: the other one though, What was your take on Seattle? 504 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: Just watching them? To me, I just think that Kubiak system, obviously, 505 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: it's something that Sam Donald's comfortable with. Back to the 506 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: you know, back to the defense, play action boot him. 507 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 2: It just they look good. Man looked like a different offense. 508 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: It absolutely looked like a different offense. And man, it's 509 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: just so different when you game plan and set it 510 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: up for your quarterback. And I think it's also easy 511 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: when you look at what the Minnesota Vikings did to 512 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: help him get going to use a continuation of that, 513 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, Nanda there's been a blueprint established for how 514 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: to get Sam Donald playing at a high level. Don't 515 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: reinvent the will. Maybe change the will, enhance the will, 516 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: but don't reinvent it. And that's what it looks like 517 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks you're trying to do. They're trying to 518 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: take what he did well in Minnesota and find their 519 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: own way to be able to replicate that while maintaining 520 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: true to the way they want to be their identity is. 521 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: Yet I was trying to find the trying to find 522 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: the quote here. So I was I was doing Seattle 523 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: show and they were talking about that offense and they 524 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: pulled a quote I couldn't find it on. Jake Bobo 525 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: had a quote and saying what he likes so much 526 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: about the offense and how they're running the ball well 527 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 2: and what they're doing. He said, the first ten yards, 528 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: like the first ten yards are our path, whether it's 529 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: run or pass, are exactly the same. So in other words, 530 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: like we're going to crack, we're going to motion, and 531 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: we're going to crack, We're on that same exact path. 532 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: We're cracking in one play and ten minutes later we're 533 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: running right by him. But everything from a defensive standpoint, 534 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: the picture running pass looks the same, looks exactly the same. Man, 535 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: And I don't know. I was asked how many how 536 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 2: many people do you think do that at a very 537 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: high level. I don't think there's many that are that 538 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 2: consistent with making that stuff. And that goes back to 539 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: his dad. That's what Gary Kubiak, and that goes Mike Shanahan. 540 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say this like one of the things. 541 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: And I've said this because I've seen some things that 542 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: are very similar to that when I watched the Jaguars, 543 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: because they're using a version of what the Rams do offensively, 544 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: what the Rams did back in twenty eighteen. Liam Fulm 545 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: was assistant wide receiver coach, so he saw Sean McVay 546 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: worked at as they've rebuilt Jered Goff, And part of 547 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: what they're doing is trying to make everything look the 548 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: same to the defense. The run game, the run action, 549 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: and that includes all of the action, not just the 550 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: interior core tied in and line running back's path, but 551 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: the receivers condensed sets, snug formations. You got them inside, 552 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: so then climb up on the safeties. Well, now you 553 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: know what happens after that they climb up on the safeties. 554 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: But now one guy runs a post and the other 555 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: guy runs a deepot play action. I mean, how many 556 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: times do we want to see that? But this is 557 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: what it is. And for the defense, it's hard because 558 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: that crack motion at debt and it's almost like the 559 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: catalling the little ball of yarn. You just get so 560 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: used to it, you get mesmerized, you fall asleep, and 561 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: then they hit you in the explosive play. That's what 562 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: Koubyek has done, That's what Shanahan. That's what they've done 563 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: for years, and their sons have done it for years. 564 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: So it's a big part of how they get down offensive. 565 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: Now the quote here haven't pulled it up. I mean, 566 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: you guys are gonna see it. But it's really cool 567 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: what Koobs is doing. He's marrying up at least for 568 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: just receivers. We're all in the same path for the 569 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: first ten yards of a play, whether we're running outside 570 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: zone or we're running boot action play action off of it. So, 571 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: man's that's tough on a defense. I think I was 572 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: going to ask you about that sidebar. I mean, we 573 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: live in an over league, man, It is a It 574 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: is a deep over crosser league. We get so much 575 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: too high coverage. Just I don't know if we see 576 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: as many vertical pops, but the explosive plays are coming 577 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: on all these over routes. Man, that's a preseason. 578 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: Because DJ I would say this as a dB, it 579 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: is the hardest thing to play and the reason why, 580 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter if you're in split safety coverage 581 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: or single high coverage. The reason why is when you 582 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: run the combination the posts deep over and if you 583 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: do it from condensed sets. As a defense, you have 584 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: to make a decision how are we going to handle it? Right? 585 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: So when I was in Oakland, I played with teams. 586 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: We would call it roll the post. So if I'm 587 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: on the side where my guy is running the deep over, 588 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: I let him go to the other side and I'm 589 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: falling back into the post that's coming from the opposite direction. 590 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: If I'm the gual on the post, I stay on 591 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: top of the post. But the safety that's in the middle, 592 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: he's going to drive the Oah. It takes one so 593 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: much communication to be able to pull that off. It 594 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: takes the identification in the pre snap game. But what 595 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: do those guys do shift motion. They make it hard 596 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: to identify when it could be coming, and then it 597 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: takes the execution. But that takes reps in practice to 598 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: be able to pull off. And the reason why you're 599 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: seeing these things explode in the preseason, so many disjointed 600 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: jukes playing together twos and three, he's ones and twos. 601 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: Everyone is not on the same page in the back end, 602 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: and when you have a miscommunication, it leads to a 603 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: home run ball. That is an explosive play, and that 604 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: is what the offense is banking. 605 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: Dan Casey, who's a great follow. If you don't follow, uh, 606 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: listen and don't follow Dan Casey, this great job. Puts 607 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: out plays all the time. He sends out you can 608 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: get on his mailing lest he'll send out to play 609 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: every single day. He's got thousands and thousands of coaches 610 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: that subscribe to it. But he was showing some stuff. 611 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: I remember who it was, but what it was was like, 612 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: we are running routes. We are like it's almost like 613 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: a grab as well. I would just refer to it 614 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: as is. We are we have a tight end and 615 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: we have so we're going to have a say, we 616 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: have a whole defender, we are running right to him 617 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 2: and we are posting him and we're trying to just 618 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: grab him attention. And then we are right behind. So 619 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: what would you call that? What would you call that 620 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: route where you're going on it? 621 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, grab because you're trying to grab his attention and 622 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: all you're looking for is the quarterback. Is he says 623 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: his feet down or he comes towards that, it's something 624 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: right behind. And as a defender, we always talk about 625 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: it in terms of don't eat the cheese. If there's 626 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: something in front of you, there's something coming behind you. 627 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: So when that thing is in front of you, you 628 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: gotta let it go. Some people use it as the 629 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: note cover zone. Hey, let that go. We're not going 630 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: to cover that. If they want to complete that coopl, 631 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: we'll let them have that. But what happens dj you 632 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: see it over and over and you see the completion 633 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: and in some point you're not disciplined enough to stay 634 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: to it, so you jump it and then the big 635 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: thing comes behind it. That's what it comes down to, 636 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: And you're playing this cat and mouse game, the entire 637 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: game on the quarterback, and if the quarterback is disciplined, 638 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: you can't win because you have to take Look, just hey, 639 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: just let them take the check down. 640 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: Take the checkdown. 641 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: But as defenders, we get tired of seeing completions. And 642 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: people say this because I've been on both sides of 643 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: the ball on defense. We're like, hey, make them take 644 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: the checkdown, make them take the checkdown. But here's what happened. 645 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: And I heard this from a quarterback coach. Every completion matters, 646 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: Every completion impacts the defense. So as we talk about 647 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: a may, we're gonna let him have but DJ Naturally, 648 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: if you keep seeing them catch passes, you get frustrated. 649 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: Then one guy plays a hero, he jumps it, and 650 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: then that's when the explosive play happens. It comes down 651 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: to discipline on both sides. If the quarterback is disciplined, 652 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna win. If the defense is disciplined, he will 653 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: eventually win. It's a batter of wills. 654 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting to me just how you know, Look, 655 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: I just on the crappy you know college teams that 656 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 2: I played on like everything was just landmarks, everything was distance, 657 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: everything was steps, and now it's just like no, no, no, 658 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: this is where your path is. Wherever the defender is, 659 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: we are you are getting in his vision. You whatever 660 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: you gotta do to get in his vision and grab him. 661 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: That's what you're doing. 662 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if I can get him, I'm trying to 663 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: move him. I want him to move, so I want 664 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: him to lock eyes with me. See me, I sit down. 665 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: He now reacts to it. That The second completion that 666 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Kayla Williams had to Loveland is kind of kind of 667 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: an over But on the opposite side, they sit a 668 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: guy down right at like eight yards in front of 669 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: the linebacker and the linebacker's like, oh, I go, I 670 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: got him. I got him, And as soon as he goes, 671 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: you see Caleb let it go right over his ear 672 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: or completion. That's the hard part. When you're playing zone, 673 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: that's the hard part because they're trying to grab your 674 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: attention and if you're not disciplined, it does lead to 675 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: those big, big windows. 676 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. It's exciting to see what some of 677 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: these offenses are going to look like going forward. Last 678 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: thing before we get out of here, Buck, there's two 679 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: players out there. McLaurin doesn't actually I should say three. 680 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: McLaurin doesn't have a deal, Hendrickson doesn't have a deal, 681 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: and Mike hah Parson still doesn't have a deal. I 682 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: think we're probably on the same page, and that Jerry 683 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: eventually's gonna do gonna end up paying Michael Parsons. He 684 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: just seems to always do that after you kind of 685 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: drag this whole thing out. The other two I don't either, 686 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: But of the other two, I'm leaning more towards Hendrickson 687 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: as being the only one that has an actual chance 688 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: of getting moved. I don't like it, but that would 689 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: be the only one that would that I could see 690 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: changing teams. Now, maybe if you're listening to this, maybe 691 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: mclaurin's already been traded by their window where they are 692 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: right now. I don't see them doing that. And you 693 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: could say that you can make the same argument for Cincinnati, 694 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: except for the fact since I just paid so many 695 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: guys that that that's the only one. I'm a little bit. 696 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: Let's see what think comes on. 697 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: I think I think Cincinnati's out a cast. They made 698 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: a decision. They basically made a choice of t Higgins 699 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: over Trey Hendrickson. Like when they decided to bring that 700 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: duo back on offense, they were giving up the pass 701 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: rushing and I understand it, and by not being on 702 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: the front end of it, not getting this deal done 703 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: last year the previous year, what they did is they 704 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: waded into waters that now they can't swim in. Because 705 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: when Miles Garrett and TJ. Watt signed their deals to 706 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: push him into forty million annually category, and Trey Hendrickson's 707 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: production is right in that in line with their production, 708 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: you don't get the discount. You have Miles Crosby and 709 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter who signed extend Max Crosby. I'm sorry, Max 710 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: Crosby and those guys. So they're at thirty five million annually. Jay. 711 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: If I'm Tray Hendrickson, that's great, But my numbers are 712 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: more than the forty million category. Yeah, I can't settle 713 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: for thirty. I was just trying to get thirty. Now 714 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: you have to pay me close to forty. Man. Slow. 715 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: When you go slow, man, you end up paying more 716 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: in these deals. Man, It's better to be on the 717 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: front end of the situation. I just don't know. They 718 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: say they want a first round pick and a player. 719 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: There's no they're not getting that. I mean, I don't 720 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: think they'll get a first round pick. I think it's 721 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: I think it's a day two pick and a player. 722 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 2: If you want to go that way, I think you 723 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: could pull that off. I don't see anybody doing that. 724 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, and because he's still thirty thirty one years old, 725 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: like you're still talking about an older Yeah, you have 726 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: to pay him, and that team has to have money. 727 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: Now some of the people have talked about like the 728 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: Chargers have the money, they have the cash the potential 729 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: to be able to do it. The Carolina Panthers have 730 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: the cash to be able to potentially do it. There's 731 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: a connection with him. And obviously the Indianapolis Colts with 732 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: lou and Aroumo being there, they got young past rushers. 733 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: If they're going for broke and they're in save job mode, 734 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: like maybe there, But I don't know. I don't know 735 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: where he gets moved because some of the stuff that 736 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: you're hearing gets pine the sky, like him going to Detroit. 737 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: I think that's too tough. Money doesn't work. But it 738 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: a managed to see where Trey Henderson lands. 739 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see something to keep an eye on as 740 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: we come down the home stretch here. Jack's who you 741 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: got this week? 742 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: Buck Miami In Miami, don't expect to see anybody but 743 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: not many people play. This is gonna be one for 744 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: all the roster guys trying to duke it out, which 745 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: can be fun trying to figure out how those guys 746 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: are going to You're the last spots on the rosstand, 747 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: the practice squat spots. Uh be fun. 748 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: See Yep, I'll be up in the Bay Area. We 749 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: got the Chargers Niners, and that'll wrap up the preseason 750 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 2: and then shoot, before you know it'd be off to 751 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: Brazil September fifth. Get this thing kicked off with the Chiefs. 752 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: I want. I wonder what your little sensitive temmy. I 753 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: wonder what are you going. 754 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm packing protein bars. I'm i'm an. I won't leave 755 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 2: the hotel, no chances, no chances. My stomach's not I mean, look, 756 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 2: you gotta scout. You gotta be able to self evaluate, 757 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 2: buck a little awareness. I would love to go out 758 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: and get some authentic Brazilian food. I would love it. 759 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 2: I would love it for about fifteen minutes and then 760 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 2: it would not love me, and then I just can't 761 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: do it. 762 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: My god, my god, my guy. Protein bars. 763 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: That's it. I'm gonna got three days, three days where 764 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 2: the protein bars and maybe some pre cereal. 765 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you mean nice and slim though, you 766 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: mean nice and nice and skinny. 767 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, come back as a freaking arathoner. All right, that's 768 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 2: gonna do it for us today. I hope you guys 769 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: have enjoyed it. We'll see you next time. I'll move 770 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: the sticks. 771 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: H h h