Speaker 1: Let's talk about people who would like to be in
Speaker 1: that role perhaps in uh well maybe eight months or so.
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. Let's bring in Mark Halprin.
Speaker 1: He is the co host, with all due respect, co
Speaker 1: managing editor Bloomberg Politics, and of course, Bloomberg's with all
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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Mark Halprin, go ahead, Clinton Sanders division.
Speaker 1: You know, it may not be the absolute lowest point
Speaker 1: between them, but it's a pretty low point, based on
Speaker 1: conflict of her state party meeting out in Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: based on Senator Sanders persisting very doggedly and saying he
Speaker 1: wants to fight this as the convention, let all voters vote,
Speaker 1: and basically the fact that he continues to drive her
Speaker 1: to the left. You know you're here. You hear her
Speaker 1: supporters say all the time, Well, there's really no difference
Speaker 1: between her and Senator Standers on the issues, and I
Speaker 1: don't think that's the place she wants to be as
Speaker 1: she starts to try to think more about a general election.
Speaker 1: So Mark, Bernie Sanders saying he can win the California primary,
Speaker 1: and I must say, you know, he's certainly racked up
Speaker 1: a lot of delicates, So I think that's I mean,
Speaker 1: whether he's close enough to really overcome Hillary. It's pretty
Speaker 1: impressive how many delicates he's won. Is there anything that
Speaker 1: could happen that would put him in a dead heat
Speaker 1: with Hillary when they get to the convention, Well, he
Speaker 1: can be awfully close to her, and she will need
Speaker 1: the support of those super delegates, the unelected UH people,
Speaker 1: party officials and elected office holders who aren't elected as
Speaker 1: delegates the convention to be her automatic delegates. She's gonna
Speaker 1: need some of those to get over the tops of
Speaker 1: the majority. So I'd say the only scenario would be
Speaker 1: that he finishes very strong in the remaining contest, nears
Speaker 1: the gap a little bit, and then something happens, the
Speaker 1: scandal with the Clintons, or something else unforeseeable, where the
Speaker 1: superdelegates defect in large numbers. Uh. He points out correctly
Speaker 1: that in a lot of national and key state polls
Speaker 1: he does better against Donald Trump than she does. I
Speaker 1: don't think that will be enough, that argument will be
Speaker 1: enough to persuade enough super delegates to defect from her,
Speaker 1: where most of them already are publicly to him. Mark,
Speaker 1: how Barbara Boxer, Senator from California, said that she feared
Speaker 1: for her safety, tell us why that statement is concerning,
Speaker 1: at least for some She was speaking on behalf of
Speaker 1: Hillary Clint ad at this meeting in Las Vegas at
Speaker 1: the state Party convention UH last weekend, and as we
Speaker 1: saw on the Republican side, when it looked for a
Speaker 1: time like Senator Crews might be closing the gap on
Speaker 1: enough to stop Donald Trump from getting majority. These delegates
Speaker 1: are allocated, not in most cases on the night of
Speaker 1: the primary, the night of the caucuses, but that's the
Speaker 1: first step in a long process. And the Sanders folks
Speaker 1: were trying to improve their position from what happened on
Speaker 1: election day a few months ago to today where they
Speaker 1: hope to bring a few more delegates away from Secretary
Speaker 1: Clint and then Barbara Boxer there faced the wrath of
Speaker 1: some very energized supporters of Bernie Sanders who bowed her
Speaker 1: and and perhaps more UH in order to express their
Speaker 1: displeasure at the party establishment and the Clinton forces that
Speaker 1: she represented. There. So Mark explained to us why, for
Speaker 1: for for a long time in the Republican campaign. Uh,
Speaker 1: people talked about a broker convention. Why is nobody talking
Speaker 1: about a broker convention for the Democrats? Because Hillary Clinton
Speaker 1: already has enough super delegates and elected pledge delegates that
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders can't get enough delegates and the remaining contest
Speaker 1: to stop her. So the mathematics just aren't there. And
Speaker 1: that exists largely as Senator Sanders will tell you, because
Speaker 1: Secretary Clinton built up a lead when the Southern States
Speaker 1: voted with a lot of African American voters whose support
Speaker 1: he did not win in anything like sufficient numbers that
Speaker 1: gave her a delegate lead that under the Democratic rules
Speaker 1: are very hard to come back because of proportional representation,
Speaker 1: there's no winner take all states, so there's no way
Speaker 1: to score big batches of delegates and one fell swoop.
Speaker 1: So she's got this lead and mathematically there's nothing he
Speaker 1: can do. As I said before, it would take an
Speaker 1: intervening event to change the dynamics where the super dogates
Speaker 1: could swing things this way. Any chance that there's going
Speaker 1: to be demonstrations or any kind of protest at the
Speaker 1: Democratic Convention in July, what people are trying to play
Speaker 1: that down and say, you know, certainly no violence, but
Speaker 1: at this point you're you're um, You're not able to
Speaker 1: identify really anyone with the possible exception of Mitt Romney
Speaker 1: with the kind of prominence within the Republican Party that
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders has with a Democratic Party to be an
Speaker 1: opposition force within the party at their convention. So I
Speaker 1: think whether Bernie Sanders comes around a bit or not
Speaker 1: before the convention, he is going to go to the
Speaker 1: convention basically saying my side is not happy. My side
Speaker 1: wants the platform to say change. My side wants to
Speaker 1: relook at how we pick our nominee. And I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna lead to, if not formal protests, is gonna
Speaker 1: need a lot of a lot of unhappiness in and
Speaker 1: outside the hall in Philadelphia, which could be greater than
Speaker 1: what we see against Donald Trump in Cleveland. Mark, real
Speaker 1: quick here, just give me the name of one of
Speaker 1: your favorite guests tonight. I'm, with all due respect, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite guests. We're gonna have a Congressman Ryan,
Speaker 1: not Paul Ryan, but Congressman Tim Ryan, Democrat from Ohio
Speaker 1: who's a big clayoly Clinton supporter, and we're going to
Speaker 1: talk to him about how Clinton supporters are dealing with
Speaker 1: this incredible unhappiness that exists on the left from Sanders supporters.
Speaker 1: Mark halpr And Co. He's the host of Bloomberg TVs.
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