1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk about people who would like to be in 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: that role perhaps in uh well maybe eight months or so. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. Let's bring in Mark Halprin. 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: He is the co host, with all due respect, co 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: managing editor Bloomberg Politics, and of course, Bloomberg's with all 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: due respect can be seen every week night at five 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: pm Wall Street Tom on Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg One 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Mark Halprin, go ahead, Clinton Sanders division. 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, it may not be the absolute lowest point 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: between them, but it's a pretty low point, based on 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: conflict of her state party meeting out in Las Vegas, 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: based on Senator Sanders persisting very doggedly and saying he 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: wants to fight this as the convention, let all voters vote, 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: and basically the fact that he continues to drive her 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: to the left. You know you're here. You hear her 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: supporters say all the time, Well, there's really no difference 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: between her and Senator Standers on the issues, and I 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: don't think that's the place she wants to be as 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: she starts to try to think more about a general election. 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: So Mark, Bernie Sanders saying he can win the California primary, 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: and I must say, you know, he's certainly racked up 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: a lot of delicates, So I think that's I mean, 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: whether he's close enough to really overcome Hillary. It's pretty 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: impressive how many delicates he's won. Is there anything that 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: could happen that would put him in a dead heat 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: with Hillary when they get to the convention, Well, he 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: can be awfully close to her, and she will need 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: the support of those super delegates, the unelected UH people, 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: party officials and elected office holders who aren't elected as 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: delegates the convention to be her automatic delegates. She's gonna 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: need some of those to get over the tops of 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: the majority. So I'd say the only scenario would be 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: that he finishes very strong in the remaining contest, nears 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: the gap a little bit, and then something happens, the 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: scandal with the Clintons, or something else unforeseeable, where the 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: superdelegates defect in large numbers. Uh. He points out correctly 37 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: that in a lot of national and key state polls 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: he does better against Donald Trump than she does. I 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: don't think that will be enough, that argument will be 40 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: enough to persuade enough super delegates to defect from her, 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: where most of them already are publicly to him. Mark, 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: how Barbara Boxer, Senator from California, said that she feared 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: for her safety, tell us why that statement is concerning, 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: at least for some She was speaking on behalf of 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: Hillary Clint ad at this meeting in Las Vegas at 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: the state Party convention UH last weekend, and as we 47 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: saw on the Republican side, when it looked for a 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: time like Senator Crews might be closing the gap on 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: enough to stop Donald Trump from getting majority. These delegates 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: are allocated, not in most cases on the night of 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: the primary, the night of the caucuses, but that's the 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: first step in a long process. And the Sanders folks 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: were trying to improve their position from what happened on 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: election day a few months ago to today where they 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: hope to bring a few more delegates away from Secretary 56 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: Clint and then Barbara Boxer there faced the wrath of 57 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: some very energized supporters of Bernie Sanders who bowed her 58 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: and and perhaps more UH in order to express their 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: displeasure at the party establishment and the Clinton forces that 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: she represented. There. So Mark explained to us why, for 61 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: for for a long time in the Republican campaign. Uh, 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: people talked about a broker convention. Why is nobody talking 63 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: about a broker convention for the Democrats? Because Hillary Clinton 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: already has enough super delegates and elected pledge delegates that 65 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders can't get enough delegates and the remaining contest 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: to stop her. So the mathematics just aren't there. And 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: that exists largely as Senator Sanders will tell you, because 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Secretary Clinton built up a lead when the Southern States 69 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: voted with a lot of African American voters whose support 70 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: he did not win in anything like sufficient numbers that 71 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: gave her a delegate lead that under the Democratic rules 72 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: are very hard to come back because of proportional representation, 73 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: there's no winner take all states, so there's no way 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: to score big batches of delegates and one fell swoop. 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: So she's got this lead and mathematically there's nothing he 76 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: can do. As I said before, it would take an 77 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: intervening event to change the dynamics where the super dogates 78 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: could swing things this way. Any chance that there's going 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: to be demonstrations or any kind of protest at the 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Democratic Convention in July, what people are trying to play 81 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: that down and say, you know, certainly no violence, but 82 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: at this point you're you're um, You're not able to 83 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: identify really anyone with the possible exception of Mitt Romney 84 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: with the kind of prominence within the Republican Party that 85 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders has with a Democratic Party to be an 86 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: opposition force within the party at their convention. So I 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: think whether Bernie Sanders comes around a bit or not 88 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: before the convention, he is going to go to the 89 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: convention basically saying my side is not happy. My side 90 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: wants the platform to say change. My side wants to 91 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: relook at how we pick our nominee. And I think 92 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna lead to, if not formal protests, is gonna 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: need a lot of a lot of unhappiness in and 94 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: outside the hall in Philadelphia, which could be greater than 95 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: what we see against Donald Trump in Cleveland. Mark, real 96 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: quick here, just give me the name of one of 97 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: your favorite guests tonight. I'm, with all due respect, one 98 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: of my favorite guests. We're gonna have a Congressman Ryan, 99 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: not Paul Ryan, but Congressman Tim Ryan, Democrat from Ohio 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: who's a big clayoly Clinton supporter, and we're going to 101 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: talk to him about how Clinton supporters are dealing with 102 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: this incredible unhappiness that exists on the left from Sanders supporters. 103 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: Mark halpr And Co. 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