WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Pino Palladino 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.160 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Are we 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:12.600 rolling one time for Doyling? Make sure all the pizza 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:20.360 is eating? Here we go, Let's do it cream Sure. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:33.400 Supremo Supprima su Supremo, Supremo, Sir, Supremo, Supremo, sup Supremo. 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.680 Hold hold up, hold up, hold up, Yeah, y'all should 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.720 see my face. Yeah, interfears Woman and change. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:41.760 Yeah, that's you on base. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:52.120 Supreme Su su sup My name is Sponte yeah, and 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.240 I ain't got no veno, but I'm chilling you today. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:01:07.880 Yeah. My main man pinos Suprema. My name is Sugar. Yeah, 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:13.280 my core beliefs yeah, Peace love and chicken grease. 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:21.800 So Supremo, roll called Suprema son Son Supremo. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.880 Roll called I'm unpaid Bill. Yeah that's what we know. Yeah, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.120 you take your Jamerson, Yeah, I take my Pino. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:41.199 Suprema. It's why you know where finally got. 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.560 What rhymes with that? You know why you're doing this 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:44.880 to me? 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:46.360 Goddamn, he ain't. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:54.760 No Suprema Supremo. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:01.160 Yeah, my name is Pino. Yeah, I couldn't rhyme same 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:01.520 my life. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:13.280 Yeah, he's wait roll Supprima shut Supreme. Wait a minute, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.160 Wait a minute. Again, I gotta go twice. Yeah, that's 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.680 you on bass. Yeah, and another day in Paradise. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:36.440 Supremo roll supprima s supprimo roll call, subprimo, subprimo roll. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.120 This is gonna be that Chris Farley episode. Remember that 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:41.360 time he played bass on this ship. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:47.120 Yeah, okay, y'all, this is Questlow Supreme. That's Fante, that's Steve, 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.120 that's I'm big billed. That's why I'm trying to slow 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:51.720 the theme down for you. See, you have more time 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.120 to think and change your run. Right, No, no, no, 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.440 you know, I mean now you know, just ride the rhythm. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:57.200 Okay, you're right. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.359 I'm trying to help because I was told I don't 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.560 support you enough on the show, and I want and 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.440 that's how you're gonna do it. Yeah, I was slowing 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.240 the music down so you have more time to think 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.919 about your mind. But and I did it, and you 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.160 you tipped the ball in, you won the champion. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:19.320 Okay, all right, now you finished now, Yeah it's like 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:19.959 something like that. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.120 Okay, well, halopeno, good. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:26.840 Cappuccino. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.120 Wait a minute, if you do a gospel record, you 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:38.400 could call it a hollow nobody like that. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.720 Yeah, totally you call your host. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.240 This is probably gonna be the shortest introduction ever, Ladies 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:55.920 and gentlemen. If I only had one person to choose 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:01.800 to play bass with for the rest of my I 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:11.560 would choose our guest, Pino Palladino. Because the real truth 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.360 is something told me to just go to Spotify real 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.520 quick and see, like, you know, because they'll always make 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.360 like a playlist or whatever and things you played on 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:24.360 or whatever. And I thought, normally, like my thing ends 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.760 at like at least like seventy four songs. Maybe, Yo, dude, 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:38.520 you've played on like five hundred and ten songs, and yo, like, 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:47.960 I thought you were just my secret, super kept secret, Yo, 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.120 dog Like, I didn't realize you're playing base on all 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:53.200 good for Daylight Soul. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:54.840 Now do kind of remember that? 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.200 I believe the day that I was supposed to fix 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.680 whatever song I forget the name of the song I'm 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.120 supposed to fix for them on that album, but you 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:06.400 came in before to play. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.320 Well, you know what happened. We were in Electric Lady, 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.320 me and you and right. It was the day we finished. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.400 You got a call, right, and you're like, yeah, he's here, 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.160 and You're like, what are you doing? Like, now, can 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.080 you go over to De La Soul Studio and play 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.240 on this song? So right, that's how that came about. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:23.760 So thank you. 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.520 Yeah that was I forgot about that. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.320 But I'm literally going through this thing and even with 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.000 stuff that I should know, Like, I didn't realize that 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.160 was you. On times of wasting, I had on times 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.040 of wasting a little bit because I feel like that's 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.920 other side of the game, diet, the other side of 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:44.360 the game without me Erica James. You know, I'm not salty, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:50.440 but people love that song. All right, we got a 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.400 limited time with you, Brot's just let's just go. First 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.400 of all, Okay, where are you from? 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:57.359 Okay? 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.680 So I was born in Cardiff and Wales, Okay, to 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.839 an Italian father Welsh mother. Spent most of my youth 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:09.400 in Cardiff, moved to London nineteen eighty one and lived 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.880 there until twenty sixteen when I moved to la That's 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:13.360 a real. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:18.160 Brief really, all right. So then day two just became 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:22.560 Funky's motherfucker right there. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.640 So yeah, in Cardiff where I grew up, you know, 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.760 I hit a lot of different music. Down the docks 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.040 area of Cardiff, there were a lot of a lot 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.880 of soul music, a lot of African music, stuff like that, reggae. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:36.760 So I grew up listening to a lot of that music, 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.239 and when I moved to London in the early eighties, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.160 I didn't really get to play that music. I was 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.800 playing fretless space and it became a thing, and I 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.040 played on a whole bunch of pop records and different 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:54.200 artists were calling me for that sound. So move on 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.800 to like nineteen ninety seven, when I met Dee and you. 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.800 That was the first time where I really got to 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:05.800 express that side of you know, that that roots bass 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:06.400 playing thing. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.800 Okay, I know that here at iHeart, we're all out 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.080 like ten seconds of music. So just to let the 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:12.520 world know. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.960 The song that really set it up that I soon 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.000 set it off for you and your reputation for bass 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:23.040 playing was, of course, uh Lady Ray by Christoper. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.880 Well there's one before that, never mind Okay, yeah, sorry, bro, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.320 I have to say Paul Young Wherever Lay in My Hat, 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.120 which is a Marvin Gaye cover. It's a B side 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.400 of a mind gay So I know we rearranged and 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.880 it had like a fretless intro and it was mainly 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.080 like fretless bass. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.520 And voice penal wife fretless. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:47.360 That's a good question, thank you. Well, yeah, Jacko, Jacko 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.080 past stories obviously. But but even before Jacko, when I 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.320 was a kid, I went to a concert and saw 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.000 John Martin, who's a great folk guitarist songwriter back in 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.200 back in the UK, and Danny Thompson was playing upright 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.720 bass with him, and that sound really did something for 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.600 me when I was when I was a kid, and 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.720 that was like the slidy stuff to harmonics, you know, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.760 that sort of fretless approach that Jacko also had. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:13.560 So is this you. 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:17.800 Yeah, every time you go away? 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.920 Yeah, right all day. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.280 I can see why you were so happy to play Olodo. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:32.640 It's still a classic. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.079 No, I can't find Paul Young and I'm going to 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:41.000 tear your down and all that stuff. In high school, 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.360 like were you in a high school band? Like what 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:46.760 was your teen years? 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:46.839 Like? 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:47.520 Playbass? 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.280 Yeah, I didn't really play guitar until I was like fourteen, 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.720 I guess. And I came to it from before bass. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.040 I played like Spanish guitar, and I came to it 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.800 because I went to a Catholic school and we had 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.280 a priest there that would give like lessons. So that 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.360 you could play like cowboy chords type of stuff, you know, 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.880 in folk masses. So I kind of started playing in 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.160 church church. 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.800 Everybody. I was waiting for that. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:18.960 Black church, all church. 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:20.520 All right, I get it now. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.319 But we didn't have much of a music of course, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.120 a music type of thing in the schools I was 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.480 in in that in those times. So it's really more 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.160 about sports for me. When I was a teen, I 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.600 wasn't really that interested in music till I reached like sixteen. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:32.920 Maybe. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.640 So did you always know that the less is more 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:43.200 approach is the way to go. There's a moment where 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:49.320 I lived for every night, every night whenever we would 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:53.040 get to left and right, and I'm speaking of our 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:57.199 our time served on the Voodoo toward D'Angelo, and you 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.240 know that was every night was like a two hour 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:01.440 and fifteen minute experience. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.120 Or you know, no, indeed, sometimes sometimes three autum right 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:06.600 right right. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.640 But when the song is over and we go back 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.080 to that bridge right before the very end, that's when 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:21.440 I learned that when you don't play nothing, that's almost 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:22.760 as effective as. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.600 If you know the bass player. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.719 That's like, I gotta get my best flee thing on 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:31.000 and do the best and impress people, so you would 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.080 actually you would play the groove and then come back. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.560 In and I don't know, like, I was just like, wait, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:37.959 why does that excite me? 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.679 Why is not playing some excite me more? So suddenly 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.319 I was like, what happens if I just take the 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.880 kick dromount for two bars and see what happens? And 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.520 then when it comes back in, it's almost like I 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.839 came back even more branded and I started doing that 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.000 trick and people, you know, like what you know, musicians, 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.320 like the highest honor is the post still a who? 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.800 Like that woo who? Indeed, And that's a trick I 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:04.920 stole from you, which is like when I don't do 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:06.040 something and. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.560 Pay take it away and then bring it back dynamics. Man, 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:14.040 it's even better. So how did you learn he just 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:15.680 forgot the notes and just. 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.800 Well, you know, it comes from Okay, if I think 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.800 about that, it probably comes from like playing sessions for 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:29.319 reggae guys back in the day, because you know, there 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.599 I don't know the names of these guys I was 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.079 playing with. Because I was a young bass player, I 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:34.880 was listening to a lot of fusion stuff, So I 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.520 want to play a lot of notes, right so you 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.680 did want to hell, yeah, okay, yeah, but then these 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.439 guys would just like tap out the rhythm of the 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.199 baseline on my shoulder in the studio like doo doo, 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:45.959 doo doo doo. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:47.920 Nothing, you know. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:52.280 And that told me about space and if you want 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.280 to get into it. I mean, you got controls of 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.000 the notes and the length of the notes, but you 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.319 also have control of the spaces, right, And that's that's 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:00.480 where the one for me. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.880 Is louder for the people in the back. 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.760 Man, Yeah, I would love nothing more than for every 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:11.040 musician to just lay back and do do less. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.080 But you know, well yeah, but that being said, Pano, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:16.720 do you ever want to put together a jazz fusion 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.040 band where you just fucking kick ass? 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:23.840 Oh I've done that too, yeah yeah, yeah, even play. 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:25.280 Even the night that we wanted to go see you 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.640 with Chris, like I've never seen you in that environment. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.319 I was wondering, like, well, is Pinal going to be 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:31.880 the piano that I know the piano would be or 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.080 is he going to like flex a little bit? 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.360 And you like, if you can hang with. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.480 Chris David, then you can hang with anyone anything, any 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.760 you know, So how old were you when you officially 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:44.120 changed over to. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:49.360 Playing bass to bass seventeen. How weird of adjustment is that? 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:50.800 Is it transferable? 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.640 Yeah? For sure? Yeah. I mean I was playing guitar 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.640 in a local rock band and we had a bass player, 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.000 and you know, I kept on picking up the bay 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.320 and like working out the lines for him to play. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.880 Not a good ear from very early on. And the 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.040 more I play bass and more it's like I want 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:08.320 to do this, this is more fun. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.720 So like for me, the drums aren't the focus point. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.760 You're just the traffic cop as the drum. And like 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.360 I'm supposed to be married to the bass player, and 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.280 you taught me that it's a marriage right and not 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:23.080 for nothing. 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.200 Without being disrespectful to my entire history. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.160 But sometimes it's like if you don't have a good 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.559 marriage air quotes yes with the rhythm section, which is 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.000 the drum and bass, then you know your music might 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:35.600 be in trouble. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.880 And I've been in a few situations which you don't vibe. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.520 Rhythmically right with you not on the same vocabulary right. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.800 So for you when you're in an ensemble, and now 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:52.480 like since you're such a god at your craft, I 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.840 would at least like to think that musicians respect where 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.319 you come from and kind of want to fall in line. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:05.439 But is it hard to find musicians to come down 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.599 to your level and you know, to the end. I 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.480 don't mean the abyss as in like the bottom is 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.960 a bad place, but like that zone where you are 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.000 where you do just very little and you do just 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.920 the right things, and for them not to overplay or 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:17.800 over do. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.480 It's a good question to me, and I think it 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.240 can be really frustrating sometimes when you know how something 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:27.320 could sound if if they were just like monor adjustments. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.040 But in my experience, it never really helps to try 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.560 and tell somebody that they have to come to it. 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.720 I was gonna say, are you allowed to tell the person? 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.520 Yeah? It usually doesn't work. 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.520 Doesn't work out now, it doesn't work out now. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.160 As a drummer, I've learned ways where I can force 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:43.280 people to see things my way. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.920 I've learned like a loud flam and suddenly everyone's. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.800 Like, right, they stop playing, or if you docket their 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:56.360 pay they'll notice that all work every time. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.360 Yeah, but I mean there's you know, and I'll slow 0:14:58.440 --> 0:14:59.400 it down or whatever I mean. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.040 But now just communication mic, so it's you know, I'll 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.400 just say stop playing, you know, But is there a 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:11.880 way that you talk to other instruments to hm reel 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.200 them back or if you hear wrong note the keyboard's playing, 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:16.640 you sort of not. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.640 Really in terms of how many. In terms of rhythm, 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.640 that's that's my thing, you know, rhythm. I'm hot on 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.480 that ship. That's why we hit it off so much. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.480 But you know what you said about maybe the drums 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.760 aren't the driving force behind the band. I think in 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.360 beat driven music for me, like if I'm gonna produce 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.160 something or put a band together, the first thing I 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.320 think about is the drums. You know, get that right 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:42.600 and then everything's gonna fit in. So I think rhythmically, yes, 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:47.560 sometimes if I feel like somebody's hanging back on the 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.480 drums are slowing down, I'll push a little bit. But 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.520 I don't have any kind of communication things like you said, 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.600 a loud flam that would stop everyone playing or stuff 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:55.720 like that. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.480 But you both are notorious like these from what I 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.720 hear in playing on the back side of the beat 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.040 all the time, and that's sort of the angelo where 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.000 it lives. So like when you go to a different 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.000 band where it's more like whether it's on a click 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:09.720 or it's something like. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.000 That, or what was it like? Yeah, the Who? 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.680 Yeah, yeah like that that ship would not work with 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:16.000 the Who. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.720 So you got to give what's called for. 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.280 Yeah, totally, And you know that's what That's what I 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.720 love too about playing so many different genres of music. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.920 It's it's like it's all about the relationship with the 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.720 bass and the drums, right Like in soul music, black music, generally, 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.360 the bass is important with the drums. You know that 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.240 that those are the two things that really put the 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.160 thing in a place. In rock music, it's more like 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.640 guitars and drums and the bass is you know, it's supportive. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.840 It might be playing some some some licks and stuff, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.400 but mainly the interactions between rock guitar and drums. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.440 All right, So for every bass player that's listening, that 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.640 will kill me if I don't ask the right questions. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.560 What was your first base that you purchased or the 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.440 first acts that you endor Precision? Wait, you've always used 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:07.840 a Fender Precision, Yeah. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.200 From that was the first act I had, Yeah, back 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.280 in the nineteen seventy five, I guess. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.520 Yeah. Okay, So what you're known for, how do you 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.720 how do you get your tone, Like what bass are 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:19.280 you using? 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:23.200 Mostly a Precision base, no more moon, Yeah, the moon 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.560 comes in sometimes that's more like a jazz style based, 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:26.840 like a Fender jazz style base. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:27.639 Here's a weird thing. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.400 Okay, So just recently played with Larry Graham like two 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.399 months ago. Wow, and he had not only did he 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.639 have the moon at a mic Oh, he didn't have 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.359 a mic thing on him that we were in a 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.480 studio setting, but I saw blood marks on it. 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:49.560 So yeah, like so he really like gets into right. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.360 But his it was weird to me because I saw 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.040 the moon base and I was like, wow, I wonder 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.200 like if he has the same tone as Pino, because 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.480 you know, he was just an cornerly practice and whatever 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.639 and it didn't sound that way. So how do you 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.760 what the sound that we know you for? Like which 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:07.879 strings are you using? 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:08.200 What? 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:10.600 What are all your secrets. 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:13.879 Even if you were to give it? 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:18.600 Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's public knowledge is out there. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.320 I've done interviews before kidding hearing stuff like that. But yeah, 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.280 I mean my Desert Island base would be a fan 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.200 of Precision Base. It's just got one sound and a 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.800 tone control, right, just one pickup on a tone. You 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.239 don't have a selection of different sounds from pickups. It's 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.480 pretty much one sound. And I like the sound of 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.200 flat line strings on it. They feel better just physically, 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.720 they feel better, and the longer you leave them on, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.760 the more warmth the sound is warm. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.600 So the older Yeah, I played your base before and 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:55.520 those strings are really really thin, Like you can't things 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.720 that I expect. Yeah, like I'm thinking Seinfeld basic. 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.920 Absolutely, Yeah, you need luck wild wine strings, round wine 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.639 strings for that sound really like Larry Larry sounds, you know. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:07.880 So how often do you break a string? 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:08.680 Never? 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:10.720 Yeah, because you barely touched the string. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.199 Yeah, I don't hit the strings out at all. 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:17.879 Yeah, So the fender you have, right, I don't know 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.240 how many fenders you have on you? 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:19.800 Yeah? 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:21.399 Look okay, So. 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.040 Well let me ask as your life since Voodoo, has 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.480 your life changed as far as the volume of bases 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:29.919 that you have. 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.600 Or since probably the who yeah yeah? With the who 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.040 yeah gave me the opportunity to buy stuff in. 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.960 The Voodoo days between two thousand and two thousand and three, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:42.840 how many bases are. 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:43.680 You carrying around with you? 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:45.199 Like? Two? Pretty much? 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.440 That's what I remember, Okay, Yeah, So the strings you 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.280 had on your Voodoo basse, do you still have your 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:51.840 Voodoo basse? 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:52.959 Yeah, with the same strings. 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:54.240 Wow. 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.359 Oh yeah, I put those on A ninety three. 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:03.320 Nineteen ninety three. Yeah, and it's always just stayed in 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:04.080 working order. 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.320 And yeah, they sound like I said, they sound warm. 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.680 With the longest they kind of settle into the instrument 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:10.679 just to string itself. 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:15.120 Remember what happened to your moon base? Yeah, what happened 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.120 that Voodoo base. We're not podcast, we don't get contact. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:22.040 We just assumed. 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:25.200 Please continue. 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.320 Well, yeah, I was what happened to your black moon base? 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.760 It was actually the So this is weird, but the 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.119 moon bases I had two stolen. So the white one 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.240 was stolen. The first one I played on Voodoo album 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:39.600 was a white base that was stolen somehow. When I 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.960 checked it in in San Francisco Airport and the United flight, 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:44.680 it just didn't come out in l A. And that 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:45.720 was a less sort of it. 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:47.200 Doing the Voodoo tour. 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:49.040 Just before the Voodoo. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.720 Tour, damn, just before I didn't want to hear the story. 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.320 I'm having ptsdright. 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:55.600 But but then I had a you know, I had 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.600 a well, then I contacted the company and they made 0:20:58.640 --> 0:20:59.640 me a new Moon base. 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.520 They're like, yeah, right, Pano, we won't give you one. 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.159 Yeah, but they said, you know there's a limited run 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.520 of the Larry Graham so we we you know, we 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.080 can't do you the white one like like Larry Bass. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:11.919