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Speaker 3: very good Alien.
Speaker 1: Uh, very good.
Speaker 2: Let's dive in, Okay, Alien Earth Episode three metamorphoses. It
Speaker 2: opens up right on the tail, on the cracked Geiger
Speaker 2: like tail of episode two. Wendy is racing down into
Speaker 2: the substructure of the towers to find her brother.
Speaker 1: Joe, who has been.
Speaker 2: Tackled and carried away by the Xenomorph. Meanwhile, Kersh and
Speaker 2: some of the other Lost Boys are in the lab
Speaker 2: and they're studying the specimens, and Kersh's going through Mother's
Speaker 2: database of the creatures, and the Iyapus has been captured
Speaker 2: and everything seems fine, but lost boy Nibs, who is
Speaker 2: a girl's traumatized both by the kind of life and
Speaker 2: death the way she sees it, struggle that she just
Speaker 2: witnessed and took part in against this alien octopus with
Speaker 2: a multi pupiled.
Speaker 1: Eye on it.
Speaker 2: And that's all mixed together with like these snippets and
Speaker 2: memories of her late human life, and she means to
Speaker 2: talk about like her feelings. You know, why can't why
Speaker 2: can't I keep my old name? Why didn't I get
Speaker 2: to choose my body? Why are we named after Peter
Speaker 2: parent characters?
Speaker 3: Like that's why did Wendy get to be Wendy and
Speaker 3: the rest of us a boy and girls too?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Her names was she actually had as well.
Speaker 3: But she's she's upset that she got to be Wendy
Speaker 3: because Wendy is a girl and the rest of them
Speaker 3: all got the boy's names.
Speaker 2: Curly plays basically like the company was basically saying, like, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: boy Genius has a vision and uh, this is all
Speaker 2: gonna be great. It's all gonna work out fine. Speaking
Speaker 2: of boy Genius, he calls kersh who's you know from
Speaker 2: his office and research island and says, hey, forget the mission.
Speaker 2: The original mission, which was very, very briefly like search
Speaker 2: and rescue. Your mission now is steal all the Whyland
Speaker 2: Utani specimens and bring them back to Research Island and
Speaker 2: anything that might be a value so we can study it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I go to put a thing in it I
Speaker 3: think is really funny and is maybe potentially a good question.
Speaker 3: Is like Kush was clearly already doing that, so I
Speaker 3: kind of love the idea that Kush is the one
Speaker 3: who really knows how to run the business and he
Speaker 3: already basically had that unlocked. But Boy Genius was like, yes, now,
Speaker 3: I say that that is what you're doing, which I
Speaker 3: thought was really interesting. And obviously not everyone is as
Speaker 3: into it as Kush's.
Speaker 2: They capture something about boy Genius that rings true about
Speaker 2: like these kind of like charismatic like founder kind of figures,
Speaker 2: which is that one it's got to.
Speaker 1: Be their idea. Like a lot of times.
Speaker 2: When you're in when you're pitching somebody who has like
Speaker 2: juice like that, a lot of the process is like
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to frame the idea so
Speaker 2: that it's there so that they think they came up
Speaker 2: with it, you know, so you gap And I think
Speaker 2: that's kind of curses kind of like that. And I
Speaker 2: also think that, as we see in the debate that
Speaker 2: ensues from his decision to like, hey, grab all these specimens,
Speaker 2: he's also one of these type of guys who he'll
Speaker 2: get an idea and it's like, everybody, I know we've
Speaker 2: been working on.
Speaker 3: This thing, like years and years and years.
Speaker 2: Drop that we're doing this now because this is exciting
Speaker 2: to me. And that's and that's grabbing the specimen. So
Speaker 2: these lieutenants are concerned. They're like, you know, they have
Speaker 2: various critiques. One is like, hey, we're we have got
Speaker 2: multi billion dollar hybrid prototypes in the field, and we're
Speaker 2: about to launch this brand new hybrid product line, and
Speaker 2: now we're going to like kind of drop all that
Speaker 2: to grab these like weird like insects, like and we
Speaker 2: don't know what their capabilities are. And boy Genius is like, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: we got lab facilities. We can quarantine them down at
Speaker 2: the bottom of the research island.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about.
Speaker 3: And he's also like, yeah, and your Tani made the
Speaker 3: mistake of telling me these are what the trillion dollars
Speaker 3: I'm keeping this.
Speaker 2: He's like, no way, so curse just like okay, well,
Speaker 2: and kind of gives him a little bit of an
Speaker 2: update like Wendy's missing TBD, she went after her brother,
Speaker 2: and now Boy Genius is just like reams out curses like, well,
Speaker 2: looks like you're running a really sloppy operation. I told
Speaker 2: you this, that and the other I told you I thought,
Speaker 2: I thought I built you better than this. Get your
Speaker 2: shit together, get the samples, get Wendy back and come home.
Speaker 3: Now kills this little bit at some point, because I
Speaker 3: have to say it happened. One of the biggest critiques
Speaker 3: and thoughts, because I've in this gay patch called Everybody's
Speaker 3: loving the show online. Everybody's loving the show. But the
Speaker 3: one question people keep saying is why is this a prequel?
Speaker 3: Why would you introduce all these new corporations we've never
Speaker 3: heard of? How are you going to tie that up?
Speaker 3: I am assuming that Boy Genius's arc here is he
Speaker 3: blows up his country, his company, and everything else by
Speaker 3: trying to go off to these aliens. I'm assuming that
Speaker 3: that is where we're going to end up, is that
Speaker 3: Prodigy doesn't exist by the end of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's probably going to be like
Speaker 2: a Whyland, yes exact, and then they are then.
Speaker 3: They take one of the that's a good way of putting.
Speaker 3: But we'll see, Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Wendy is down, you know, in the basement, running around.
Speaker 2: She hears her brother yelling, don't come.
Speaker 1: It's a trap. She goes in. It's a meat locker.
Speaker 2: She's restrained by the you know, the alien rubber cement.
Speaker 1: He's in the wall. They're going to lay the egg
Speaker 1: on him.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen the queen, so who knows like when
Speaker 2: that would actually happen. The alien returns and a fight ensues,
Speaker 2: but or is about to ensue, it seems like, but
Speaker 2: then the alien's like, no, I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 3: He sees Wendy and it's like she leaves. So is
Speaker 3: this more about theory that they don't attack sins?
Speaker 2: I think that what we're seeing is just how actually
Speaker 2: smart the alien is, because I think alien. I think
Speaker 2: the alien recognizes one that she's not human, can smell
Speaker 2: it or sense it or whatever, and so decides to
Speaker 2: climb like into the air duct or up on the
Speaker 2: roof above Wendy and Joe, so that when she unknowingly
Speaker 2: stabs her sword through the ceiling, the acid blood drips
Speaker 2: down and if not from the fact that she whips
Speaker 2: the blood off her sword onto the ground, she would
Speaker 2: have been fucking melted. I think this is just I
Speaker 2: think this is just like the alien being really really smart.
Speaker 3: A great strategist that it has to fight sense differently.
Speaker 2: Scary scary smart, so the whole like all the acids,
Speaker 2: melting everything. Then the alien somehow knocks the freezer over
Speaker 2: and Wendy and Joe are separated.
Speaker 3: Crazy strength, very very strong.
Speaker 2: Joe gets stabbed by the alien's tail and he gets
Speaker 2: thrown across the room. Wendy drags like meat, hooks it, yeah,
Speaker 2: through the tiny mouth in the in its tiny mouth,
Speaker 2: somehow not breaking like any blood vessels to like melt
Speaker 2: the hook.
Speaker 1: I'll take that's fine.
Speaker 2: I guess just through the cheek, if you like a fish,
Speaker 2: if you get it through the cheek.
Speaker 3: Also the tiny mouth. Is the tiny mouth as full
Speaker 3: of alien blood or is it just a little bit
Speaker 3: of alien red?
Speaker 2: So not a lot of blood vessels in an alien's face,
Speaker 2: we can say that.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: She then drags it towards like this airlock, throws it
Speaker 2: behind this big metal door, which Joe closes. But then
Speaker 2: Wendy gets trapped there behind it, and Joe's like trying
Speaker 2: to open it back up, and when they open it
Speaker 2: back up, the alien is torn up when he killed it,
Speaker 2: but she's got the synth milk coming from her head.
Speaker 2: She's been badly injured, and she collapses.
Speaker 3: Also, I just want to say great job here by
Speaker 3: Alex Lothe. We know Sidney Chandler does have the juice
Speaker 3: to lead this show. She's doing a great job. But
Speaker 3: I think that this interaction could have been very much
Speaker 3: just like action based. But you really feel like Joe
Speaker 3: is like, fuck it. He believes this is his sister.
Speaker 3: Now he wants to save her. This is the chance
Speaker 3: he never had. So you really get like a really
Speaker 3: great emotional push and pull in this sequence, even when
Speaker 3: it's also like a crazy action sequence with an alien,
Speaker 3: you know, getting its head chopped off.
Speaker 2: Slightly comes down looking for Wendy, and instead he finds
Speaker 2: like more evidence of like alien stuff.
Speaker 1: There's like the goo, the classic goo that's always on
Speaker 1: the ground.
Speaker 2: There's a skin of probably a face hugger or maybe
Speaker 2: a small chest burster that was like growing. But he
Speaker 2: only finds Sme down there, and they find more eggs.
Speaker 2: Sme tells slightly about like all the stuff they've seen,
Speaker 2: that the fucking insects they drink, the blood, and the
Speaker 2: crazy octopus thing slightly updates me on Wendy that she
Speaker 2: went down there to look for a brother. They discuss
Speaker 2: the eggs and then Morrow sneaks up on them and
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, gotcha, and he gets them away from
Speaker 2: the eggs and he searches them and the hybrids, who
Speaker 2: again are just kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's such a good these to us, so good
Speaker 3: at putting that across, and I love how they build
Speaker 3: this kind of intrigue that Morrow didn't have before. When
Speaker 3: he sees that that acting like kids, suddenly he's like,
Speaker 3: wait a minute.
Speaker 2: Yes, so he there. They're just spilling nervously, like all
Speaker 2: this information. We're from New Siam, it's a prodigy city.
Speaker 2: He Marrow recognizes that, Okay, these they're synthetics, but they're
Speaker 2: acting weird because they keep framing themselves in conversation as
Speaker 2: just kids and they're talking about parents and it's very
Speaker 2: very strange. Marrow then explains that the ship that they
Speaker 2: are on, that's his ship. He's achieved of security, picked
Speaker 2: up the eggs and picked up all these other specimens.
Speaker 2: But then the eggs hatched and the monsters came out,
Speaker 2: and there's monsters in the eggs, and now the hybrids
Speaker 2: that slightly in sme are getting very scared. Marrow then
Speaker 2: puts on some like mother headphones.
Speaker 1: To upload all of his data. I love the mother headphones.
Speaker 3: Dude, I love this. It was so cool, like the
Speaker 3: choice that they made to show the information going into
Speaker 3: his brain through lights. It's very old school, it's very dialog.
Speaker 3: It looks really cool, and yeah, Boozy's killing it in
Speaker 3: this episode.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: And we're back, so uploads the data. Morrow tells the
Speaker 2: kids that like, what do you know, Like, let me
Speaker 2: ask you something. What would you do if the AI
Speaker 2: who's basically your boss, tells you that something takes priority
Speaker 2: over the lives of the crew. In this case, it
Speaker 2: was these specimens, these weird monsters. What would you do
Speaker 2: in that situation? And he's like that made me scared
Speaker 2: because I wasn't sure what to do and like you've seen,
Speaker 2: you know, look around like this is what has happened.
Speaker 1: So what would you do? Kids? Would you follow orders?
Speaker 2: And they're like they don't really understand the thought experiment,
Speaker 2: and they don't know what they would do.
Speaker 3: And they sort of say like, well, who are we killing?
Speaker 3: Are they bad people? Are they good people? And you
Speaker 3: get to see that they still have this very like
Speaker 3: childlike moralistic binary. And also they're like, what about friends?
Speaker 3: You know, you wouldn't kill your friend and morows looking
Speaker 3: at them like what, and he's like, well, I don't
Speaker 3: have friends, and they said, well, everybody needs a friend,
Speaker 3: and that will end up becoming very important. But Moro
Speaker 3: is clearly getting very intrigued by the kids and the
Speaker 3: weird kind of synthetic bodies because he can sense.
Speaker 1: I think he suspects already what has happened. Like it
Speaker 1: doesn't take it.
Speaker 2: You don't have to be a boy genius to kind
Speaker 2: of act exhaust out what probably happened here. Once the
Speaker 2: upload is finished, Morrow Like takes the sword out of
Speaker 2: his forearm and grabs Slightly Like by the collar by
Speaker 2: the neck and asks him a question, when is a
Speaker 2: machine not a machine? Before this can go too far,
Speaker 2: curse arrives, Moro puts a gun to slight Slightly's head.
Speaker 2: He and kersh Like argue about like, hey, this is
Speaker 2: my ship, you know, like I'm head of security of
Speaker 2: this utahany vessel and curshes like, well it landed in
Speaker 2: it in Prodigy territory. So it's like a baseball that
Speaker 2: flew over into a neighbor's yard and I am the neighbor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, the ship is not the location.
Speaker 2: And then Marrow is like, what's up with these guys?
Speaker 2: Like their since but what's going on there? He was
Speaker 2: talking about their parents, their parent Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love that line.
Speaker 2: Kirsh No, you know who has been tralling the Mother
Speaker 2: database knows all about Moro knows, he's a cyborg, knows
Speaker 2: his you know, like he's chief of security the whole thing.
Speaker 2: And Marrow is like, listen, you think that she's going
Speaker 2: to let you have these creatures? She will never let
Speaker 2: you have these creatures. And it's like, are you talking
Speaker 2: about you?
Speaker 1: Tani? It's unclear, but pretty pretty clear. I think to
Speaker 1: us that that's who she's talking to.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll put out crazy twist. It is almost certainly
Speaker 3: your Tani. What if he's talking about the Mother, the
Speaker 3: Queen mother Alien? I mean, you know, very sick at.
Speaker 2: It could be it could be that also, that's a
Speaker 2: good reading of it.
Speaker 3: I love the youani read, but I think that's a
Speaker 3: fun one.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, behind Morrow, the eggs are like stirring there, bubbling,
Speaker 2: they're rustling at least. But before anything can happened, Marrow
Speaker 2: leaps into these many, many chasms that exist in every
Speaker 2: room of this, just like a chasm that you could
Speaker 2: jump into.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm like, I'm guessing it's probably from the crash,
Speaker 3: but yeah, but he loves to jump through a chasm,
Speaker 3: like he is jumping into a chasm. That's his getaway,
Speaker 3: like Batman and the smoke Bomb.
Speaker 2: So now time passes, the specimens are being gathered, the
Speaker 2: salvage comes out. Kurt is watching all this, all the stuff,
Speaker 2: the Aliens injured, Wendy injured, Joe, all the lost boys,
Speaker 2: all the research is being transported back to Research Island,
Speaker 2: where Boy Genius, standing next to his weird butler, Lobot
Speaker 2: from Cloud City and Empire strikes back without his headphones,
Speaker 2: kind of like watch all this stuff come in. In
Speaker 2: the lab, Dame and Arthur, one of the other Prodigy team,
Speaker 2: are working to like repair and reboot Wendy. Dame is
Speaker 2: very upset about this because she's still sees Wendy as
Speaker 2: a child.
Speaker 3: She's ostensibly the parent. It's hard a husband who is
Speaker 3: this scientist, but they seem to be having some big
Speaker 3: like splits on what the purpose of that work is.
Speaker 2: Arthur is also not happy about what happened to Wendy,
Speaker 2: but more in the sense that this is like a
Speaker 2: billion dollars, like he just.
Speaker 3: Gonna send out a billion dollar toy, Like unfortunately, who
Speaker 3: iss him say that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So BG comes in.
Speaker 2: Boy Genius is like, oh, what did I hear people
Speaker 2: talking about me? Is like, you criticizing me in my
Speaker 2: decision making?
Speaker 1: Like what's going on?
Speaker 2: Dame very politically is like, hey, let's just it's over now.
Speaker 2: We need to repair Wendy and let's just like do that.
Speaker 2: You go to the lab kersh is like looking at
Speaker 2: all the specimens, looking at the iOpus. Boy Genius comes
Speaker 2: in there, he's like he praises toodles, and Curly is like,
Speaker 2: great job, guys.
Speaker 3: And they're so happy you can tell something that happens
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 2: Curly, especially as we will seekersh then is like, hey,
Speaker 2: do you think it was worth it risking a decade's
Speaker 2: work on these weird bug distractions? And boy Genius is like,
Speaker 2: are you kidding like again, like I am rocked up
Speaker 2: for a trillion dollars worth of alien shit, like I
Speaker 2: am so so so fucking psyched. He gets near the egg,
Speaker 2: the egg starts doing its eggs, rustling, and the little pieces,
Speaker 2: the little pedals of the egg begin to part, and
Speaker 2: Boy Genius, very foolishly is moving into.
Speaker 3: Classic flash position. I sweat, I'm sticking to this Pheromone's
Speaker 3: idea or something because everyone just wants to stick the
Speaker 3: head in that. And the number one thing that I
Speaker 3: think your brain and your body and your feral you know,
Speaker 3: Amigdala is going to be telling you, was like, don't
Speaker 3: put your head in that. So why does everyone do it?
Speaker 2: It must and yeah it must be something about Its intriguing.
Speaker 2: But before he can get hugged, Kersh sees him out
Speaker 2: curse's and then Kirshn explains, listen, they impregnant you. That's
Speaker 2: a parasite. I saw multiple examples of this on the ship,
Speaker 2: people who had been exploded from the outside and it
Speaker 2: lays an egg, the egg grows and it freaking burst
Speaker 2: out of your chest. I've seen it happen. So boy Genius,
Speaker 2: now with with you know, seemingly like a newfound respect
Speaker 2: and appreciation for the good job that Kursh has done.
Speaker 2: Is like, okay, well you're in charge of all of
Speaker 2: these animals and lock down the specimens. Nobody inter out
Speaker 2: except you and unless you say it's okay and you
Speaker 2: get to work. Later, Lobot comes to see the kids.
Speaker 1: I should find out what his name. It looks like no,
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 3: It looks like a little Lobul.
Speaker 2: So Lobot comes to see the kids, and the kids
Speaker 2: are worried that they're in trouble because of, you know,
Speaker 2: stuff that went on on the ship. And Lobot asks
Speaker 2: about Morrow and they all describe Morrow and the ways
Speaker 2: that he's a cyborg. He has a sword in his
Speaker 2: arm and all this kind of stuff. Apparently he's gone.
Speaker 2: They can't find him. Prodigy's looking all over the city
Speaker 2: for him. They put out an apb using steal images
Speaker 2: collected from the kid's eyes, and the kids found this
Speaker 2: very troubling thing.
Speaker 3: They're watching.
Speaker 1: You're watching stuff through our eyes.
Speaker 3: Yes, And they said, we record every single thing that
Speaker 3: you see. And you can tell that they both got
Speaker 3: very nervous about that, because obviously they like kids that
Speaker 3: they're don't fuck around shit. Yes, yeah, very interesting.
Speaker 2: So Lobot asks slightly what was it that Morrow said
Speaker 2: to you, because I guess they'd can't hear it that
Speaker 2: well on the audio feed, but and then he says,
Speaker 2: you know, it was that question, when is a machine
Speaker 2: not a machine? Elsewhere in the city we see Morrow
Speaker 2: kind of limping around the streets stealing food. He gets
Speaker 2: his little burner phone out. He makes a call using
Speaker 2: his secret passphrase to the Utanian Corporation. He speaks to
Speaker 2: you Tani herself and you Tani and he's like, wait,
Speaker 2: you're not Yutani and she's like, oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: It's been sixty five years since the Mazino left Earth.
Speaker 2: I am Utani's granddaughter. I'm the new Utani and what's so?
Speaker 2: I am Utani, So what's going on? And he's like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: Prodigy has all the specimens. The Magino was sabotage. What
Speaker 2: do we do now? Utani is like, just come home,
Speaker 2: we'll figure it out, and Moros then says, no, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna stop, like I wasted my entire life.
Speaker 3: I love that line.
Speaker 2: He's taking like taking care of these creatures and safeguarding
Speaker 2: them through this arduous space journey that went terribly.
Speaker 3: He's everyone I know is dead, Like I have nothing else.
Speaker 3: This is my life life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have nothing but these animals. I'm getting them
Speaker 2: back period point.
Speaker 1: Like I'm getting back.
Speaker 3: Let's take it quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: That Curly.
Speaker 2: And Genius have a little conversation, Curly being Ripley being
Speaker 2: the scorting a ripoff?
Speaker 3: How could you do this?
Speaker 2: I they did this because I think it's really the
Speaker 2: things I've been wandering about. Listen, I think there's very
Speaker 2: few things as actually terrifying, like they're they're framing the
Speaker 2: innocence of childhood given access to like this incredibly strong
Speaker 2: and vulnerable, immortal and very powerful body. Is like, Oh,
Speaker 2: it's good. It's kind of the best version of it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like there's a lot to be scared
Speaker 2: of of little kids having like advanced bodies and advanced intelligences,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad that they've brought like.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is really good because I think it's really
Speaker 3: I think it's really shows that Horley is not trying
Speaker 3: to tell an easy story. Yes, like there's gonna be complexities.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be that all the kids are good
Speaker 3: and the adults are bad. It's gonna be very much
Speaker 3: about how each of these people interacts with the world.
Speaker 3: And I do think that Curly doing this is like,
Speaker 3: so it's so realistic, it's so childlike, but it's so valry.
Speaker 3: But it's also like you you also like just know
Speaker 3: it's gonna end badly. So I was definitely kind of
Speaker 3: like cringing. Yeah, Irana James, she's really brilliant. I saw
Speaker 3: her in a show called The Wilds which was on
Speaker 3: Amazon for two seasons. Actually really good, kind of proto
Speaker 3: Yellow Jackets vibe. But yeah, she's great, and she's so
Speaker 3: good in this scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she basically accuses boy genius of having a
Speaker 2: favorite when and the favorite is Wendy, and Boiss basically
Speaker 2: is like, yeah, so.
Speaker 3: What and he's interested. He's like wait, He's like do
Speaker 3: you care?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's like, yeah, I care because I'm better
Speaker 2: than her, Like I'm smarter than her. I don't have
Speaker 2: these weird attachments to like my brother and all this
Speaker 2: dumb shit, Like I am thinking about how my new
Speaker 2: body and my new brain can help fix the world,
Speaker 2: Like I have a lot of good ideas. And he's
Speaker 2: like oh, yeah, what are they? And she's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to tell you because you're gonna steal my ideas.
Speaker 1: I'll let you.
Speaker 2: He's a time, yeah, and he's like and she's like,
Speaker 2: I think I can be smarter than you. I learned
Speaker 2: French in a week. And then he goes on to
Speaker 2: this whole thing about prodigy, which is exactly what we
Speaker 2: said in the which is like, like, you can be
Speaker 2: a genius, you're you're a child genius until you're no
Speaker 2: longer a child and it's not interesting anymore. So he says, listen,
Speaker 2: I like what you're pitching. I'm gonna I think part
Speaker 2: of what makes you uniquely intelligent is your child like imagine,
Speaker 2: you can imagine anything. I'm going to give you some
Speaker 2: study materials. I'm going to give you some things to read,
Speaker 2: some podcasts to listen to. I' listen to the X
Speaker 2: ray vision of Obvious, cap of every alien movie. And
Speaker 2: then we're gonna get together and we're going to talk
Speaker 2: and I'm going to see, like what kind of ideas
Speaker 2: you have and let and she's like and then I'm
Speaker 2: the favorite. And he's like, well, you're in the.
Speaker 3: Rate to be the favorite, and which is one just
Speaker 3: need to say, you're setting up something fucked up there, bro,
Speaker 3: because that's going to become an obsession and you're gonna
Speaker 3: regret it.
Speaker 2: Second, is it is it more fucked up than what's
Speaker 2: already happened.
Speaker 3: It's not, but I just mean for him, like he's
Speaker 3: gonna end up regretting it. But one thing that I
Speaker 3: think is really interesting here when we're talking about why
Speaker 3: did boy genius make these creatures? I think he reveals
Speaker 3: here what makes them geniuses is their childlike imagination. So
Speaker 3: I think part of the reason he created these since
Speaker 3: is so that they could come up with new ideas
Speaker 3: that he could take credit for as he has grown
Speaker 3: up and is no longer necessarily a prodigy. So I
Speaker 3: think maybe he's been trying to make these child prodigies,
Speaker 3: and it seems like Curley is the first one who
Speaker 3: is going down the path that I think he more
Speaker 3: wanted them to, which was this petition made.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's made any of these before successfully.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I think that.
Speaker 3: Is I think these are the first ones. I think
Speaker 3: they're going to launch them obviously as a way to showcase,
Speaker 3: you know, you can put your brain in a person.
Speaker 3: That's what we're trying to do. If your child is ill,
Speaker 3: you'll pay any way to you know, have them still alive.
Speaker 3: You can do it this way. So obviously there's a
Speaker 3: financial element and a creativity element, and a patenting element
Speaker 3: and all the things that he wants for money. But
Speaker 3: I also think in this conversation he kind of reveals
Speaker 3: that he feels like he can't necessarily make any more
Speaker 3: great ideas. So maybe having the kid's brains in the
Speaker 3: SyncE bodies is a way for him to capture that
Speaker 3: childlike intelligence and kind of keep his ideas going even
Speaker 3: if they're not.
Speaker 2: I think you're kind of right. I think his plan.
Speaker 2: I think obviously, like for the investors, like his ideas,
Speaker 2: like we're going to put these synths in the field.
Speaker 2: They're going to do the dangerous work.
Speaker 3: They're going to do no hard work.
Speaker 1: They can be on spaceships. They don't need to be asleep.
Speaker 2: But I think personally, listen, Dame is giving him a
Speaker 2: lot of shit. Kersh who is synthetic but is giving
Speaker 2: is giving him a lot of shit. Arthur is giving
Speaker 2: him a lot of shit. Lobot just follows orders, but
Speaker 2: not necessarily an ideas guy. I think I think that
Speaker 2: boy Genius wants to replace his entire inner circle with like.
Speaker 3: With chow geniuses that he has created, so he deems
Speaker 3: to be as you know, as good as him.
Speaker 2: Slightly is just hanging out in the research facility when
Speaker 2: Morrow suddenly is able to talk to him and is
Speaker 2: in his mind, in his conscious Morrow is like at
Speaker 2: some Internet cafe where we see that the Internet of
Speaker 2: the twenty second century still has the font of like
Speaker 2: GeoCities of like nineteen ninety eight, which is so funny,
Speaker 2: and Slightly is really really scared, and Marrow is like,
Speaker 2: guess what I figured it out? Ask me how I
Speaker 2: figured out? Like what you are, and he's like googling
Speaker 2: while he's talking to them. He's like googling all this
Speaker 2: information about boy Genius and the very products that Prodigy
Speaker 2: is offered and stuff. And he asks Slightly how old
Speaker 2: Slightly is. And we learned that Morrow had a little girl,
Speaker 2: but she's probably dead by now or very old. Slightly
Speaker 2: doesn't want to talk Tomorrow ever again, and Morrow is
Speaker 2: he's a fully grown like adults, just running circles around
Speaker 2: this like little kid. And here again we get this
Speaker 2: kind of like grooming undertone where he's like, Okay, you
Speaker 2: know what you need. It's the same thing that you
Speaker 2: said that I needed when we were on the ship.
Speaker 2: You need a friend. Can I be your friend? And
Speaker 2: so it seems as if Slightly is going to be
Speaker 2: probably unwillingly Morrow's spy.
Speaker 3: Yes, that is where this is going, And I really
Speaker 3: like the way that Morrow there is the mention of
Speaker 3: the door. Yeah, lets us know that there's gonna probably
Speaker 3: be a little bit of ethical quandary in his heart
Speaker 3: about what he's doing, and he may be will get
Speaker 3: some feelings about the kids. But I also think obviously
Speaker 3: like he's going to be running Slightly as his like
Speaker 3: number one spy throughout this season.
Speaker 2: Now, meanwhile, NIBBs continues to really be struggling with the
Speaker 2: transition to her new body breaking out and all the
Speaker 2: things that she's seen. She can't stop thinking about her
Speaker 2: human life and how it ended, and she just kind
Speaker 2: of goes like walking like aimlessly through the labs. Dame
Speaker 2: is sleeping next to Wendy, who is rebooting, but then
Speaker 2: she must be sleeping very soundly because Wendy wakes up
Speaker 2: and then just walks off. Joe is undergoing some pretty
Speaker 2: severe surgery and he kind of like wakes up in
Speaker 2: the middle of it to see what's going on in
Speaker 2: this Could you tell what was going on here? I
Speaker 2: was like wondering if they were implanted.
Speaker 3: I know, I was worried about that too. I feel
Speaker 3: like from he had that little injury, I feel like
Speaker 3: they wouldn't needed to be cutting him to fix that injury.
Speaker 3: I wonder if they were doing some kind of alien implantation,
Speaker 3: because we do also see at one point, like as
Speaker 3: we will talk about that there is some alien experimentation
Speaker 3: goes on, and there's already experimentation. So I hope that
Speaker 3: doesn't happen to Joe, but could be interesting. We've never
Speaker 3: you know, they leaned into the idea of like Ripley
Speaker 3: and the alien having a symbiosis or becoming one, or
Speaker 3: creating a creature that is part of both of them,
Speaker 3: this kind of hybrid idea, So that would be an
Speaker 3: interesting thing, was if they were trying to also now
Speaker 3: create as any more human hybrid as well. So fingers crossed,
Speaker 3: Alex Lortha, you're good brother, You're good in character. I
Speaker 3: know that people like you as hermit, So hopefully they
Speaker 3: did not do that, but I also have that thought,
Speaker 3: so great pick up.
Speaker 2: So down in the lab, the work is beginning. Curly
Speaker 2: Toodles and Kersh are dissecting an egg. They get it
Speaker 2: open using a I mean, the skin of this egg
Speaker 2: is unbelievably tough.
Speaker 3: It looks like what you'd imagine a dinosaur, a dragon
Speaker 3: is it's pure sales, almost impossible to cut through.
Speaker 2: It takes them like they've to use a power saw
Speaker 2: basically to come through it. They get into the sack
Speaker 2: and they can see the face hugger, you know, through
Speaker 2: a membrane kind of like moving in there. And as
Speaker 2: Kurse breaks the membrane, Wendy hears that high pitch sound
Speaker 2: against so she can hear this is the way I
Speaker 2: want nice.
Speaker 3: What happened is she? I think it's the to the
Speaker 3: aliens is thin, She's so.
Speaker 2: I mean we've seen in the other alien movies, right,
Speaker 2: how the aliens. I'm thinking alien to aliens specifically the
Speaker 2: way the queen would like signal somehow to her drones
Speaker 2: and they would fall.
Speaker 1: Back or move away. So like, how do they communicate?
Speaker 2: I think that they are communicating somehow with in this
Speaker 2: high frequency range they're emitting these kind of signals that
Speaker 2: Wendy is for some reason able to hear. Kursh and
Speaker 2: the hybrids wrestle with the face hugger hugger. They managed
Speaker 2: to get them.
Speaker 3: Showing how strong it is, because that's three there's a
Speaker 3: scent and two hybrids and they are barely struggling to
Speaker 3: get this one creature down to be able to dissect that.
Speaker 2: Wendy is continuing to like experience like pain and agony
Speaker 2: from this high frequency something that is like washing over her. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Kursh removes the baby chest burster tadpole from their face hugger,
Speaker 2: which is like, really cool. We've never seen this cool
Speaker 2: and so tiny.
Speaker 3: But they managed to make you able to see that
Speaker 3: really phallic shape of the head the things that you know,
Speaker 3: and you see it swishing around and you're just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's baby's animal and I love it and I hate that.
Speaker 2: So they have this like vat with a synthetic lung
Speaker 2: and heart kind of like pumping attached to like this
Speaker 2: kind of pipe and tube frame.
Speaker 3: To make the alien think is alive essentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they drop the alien into this vat that
Speaker 2: has like some kind of saline solution or something in there,
Speaker 2: and it swims swims around, the swims around the lung,
Speaker 2: and then it goes into like the folds of the
Speaker 2: lung and like disappears like under there, clearly like hooking
Speaker 2: onto the blood supply to the to hooking itself to
Speaker 2: like the veins and the and the whatever the system
Speaker 2: of this like lung, the synthetic lung, so that it
Speaker 2: can grow. Meanwhile, Wendy has been overcome by this signal
Speaker 2: this and has collapsed and is twitching on the floor
Speaker 2: somewhere in the lab. And that's it that we we
Speaker 2: go onto episode four. I this is the show's really
Speaker 2: you know once you started very very strong, and now
Speaker 2: I think it's going into very interesting territory, especially with
Speaker 2: the widening of the lore of like the alien biology.
Speaker 3: I think is some of them, I think really fascinating.
Speaker 3: I think it's what we're looking for in an alien show.
Speaker 3: The synth stuff is very interesting, and Noah Hawley is
Speaker 3: definitely bringing a new angle to it. But I think
Speaker 3: really getting to know more about the xenomorph and its
Speaker 3: physiology and the way the aliens work. I'm very interested
Speaker 3: in this connection with Wendy and the alien seemingly because
Speaker 3: let's be real, nobody else the other synths are not
Speaker 3: having that reaction to it, and Wendy did just kill
Speaker 3: an alien. Maybe there is some kind of blood that
Speaker 3: got on her or something. I don't know, but I
Speaker 3: feel like there's something very interesting going on there that
Speaker 3: I can't wait for. And with the NIBS situation and
Speaker 3: the slightly situation, how high are our odds, Jason, that
Speaker 3: there's going to be like a full on robot rebellion,
Speaker 3: like a kid rebellion before the end of this season,
Speaker 3: Because I do think it's quite likely.
Speaker 2: I think it's I guess likely, but it also like
Speaker 2: makes me feel I would be slightly disappointed if boy
Speaker 2: Genius doesn't have many safeguards to protect against this. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: that be like one of the first things you do
Speaker 2: is like, how do I make sure my synthetic humans
Speaker 2: that I've just created don't ever rebel against me? Or
Speaker 2: if they do, I just like click a click a
Speaker 2: p and they all collapse. Like so, I hope while
Speaker 2: I I expect to see something like that, I also
Speaker 2: expect to be subverted in that to a significant degree.
Speaker 2: I also am wondering about the Wendy thing too, It's
Speaker 2: like because ostensibly all the bodies are produced in the
Speaker 2: same way, though they all look differently, So why would
Speaker 2: she have different capabilities than the other ones. I feel
Speaker 2: like I want to know more about it.
Speaker 3: I do. It will be interesting to these the exactly
Speaker 3: play the hybrid human physiology as well. I think I
Speaker 3: want to know more about that. I need to know
Speaker 3: how it's going, why her brain seems to be reacting differently.
Speaker 3: How Curly, for example, is able to harness that intelligence
Speaker 3: to learn French? Is it just about what you put
Speaker 3: your focus on. I'm very interested. I hope we get
Speaker 3: some of that. As much as this episode was about
Speaker 3: the aliens, I really hope we get some more of
Speaker 3: that about the hybrids.
Speaker 2: I think that if we do get a rebellion, it
Speaker 2: will be led by kersh Oh.
Speaker 3: I would love to see it. He's he knows he's
Speaker 3: really running the ship, but he's never going.
Speaker 2: To get He's the one who he's been around long
Speaker 2: enough to know or at least be aware of whatever
Speaker 2: safeguards are in place to keep him from like flipping
Speaker 2: its flipping out. So I think if there's any rebellion,
Speaker 2: it will necessarily go through him. I will say that
Speaker 2: one thing that kind of hope doesn't. Well, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I think the Dame is like the stand in mother
Speaker 2: for Wendy, or at least having these kind of like
Speaker 2: maternal feelings towards Wendy.
Speaker 1: We'll see. It just felt like so like obviously we
Speaker 1: would go here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I want to see why, I want reason.
Speaker 2: And so I'm just like fascinated. And again I'm fascinated
Speaker 2: to see, like what they're doing with Joe. Are they
Speaker 2: merely healing him?
Speaker 1: And what is? What is?
Speaker 3: Can you trust anyone in genius space?
Speaker 2: Like no, I wonder if like what they're thinking of
Speaker 2: is either a synthetic alien body or a synthetic human
Speaker 2: body with vice versa the mind of a person or
Speaker 2: the mind of an alien.
Speaker 3: That's really good, Oh my god. Yes, like a weapon
Speaker 3: also as well, even just the ability to make some
Speaker 3: kind of hybrid situation where appears human like can have
Speaker 3: a compassation but has acid blood so it doesn't you know,
Speaker 3: so if somebody cuts off their synthetic arm, the blood
Speaker 3: bleeds on them, they you know. I feel like, as
Speaker 3: so often is the case with new discoveries nowadays. In
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, I feel like there is going to
Speaker 3: be that rush to understand it and that rush to
Speaker 3: harness it, and that's probably going to end in disaster.
Speaker 3: Whichever way they go.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: On the next episode of Extra Vision, we're diving into
Speaker 2: Highest to Lowest, the new Spike Lee feature film, and
Speaker 2: that's it.
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