WEBVTT - #138 - Chris Daughtry 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:06.240 All right, Welcome to episode with Chris Daughtry. Thanks for 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.000 our sponsors of this episode, Sleep Number and LifeLock. Good 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:11.680 to see you man, Good to see you. You know 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:12.960 you walk, you walk into the house and you have 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:15.360 and here's my issue. Now, I explained to you a a 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.439 problem that I have. I have a have a chain, 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.680 a single chain, and I feel like such a douche 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.280 because I can't wear jewelry and I was given this 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.200 chain and I thought, I'm gonna try to wear because 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.600 I'm not cool, Like you have a cool look. You 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.960 at the tattoos, totally cool. You have the rock you 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.559 have the rock and roll guy, and you have a 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.839 lot of bracelets and you have the necklaces and it works. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.879 It maybe overkill. I feel like such a goober though 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.000 in a single chain it looks cool, you know. To 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.360 be honest, I usually rock a single chain, and today 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.120 I was like, do I wear my stones or do 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:49.800 I wear this? And I just said, let's just do 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:51.760 it all on. But you can but that that it 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.800 fits like I'm like white Urkle, I'm like Country Urkle 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.520 with the chain on. Mike, what do you think of 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:03.080 my chain? Is it still turn your microphone. What's on 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.000 it is nothing. I'm just an emulett. Let's see, that's 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.480 even cooler. It's not trying to be anything. It's just there. 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:11.720 That's what I feel like I am. I'm not trying 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.800 to be anything. I'm just here. But that's okay, Right, 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.000 we're we're all like trying to figure out who we 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.160 are and what we're doing, and we're all copying something 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.920 or another. So you have a lot of tattoos. I 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.320 do a lot. Yeah, this is still a work in progress. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.000 Um on your this is your left arm. You just 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:29.600 touched and I don't I can't really see what it is, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.840 but it's it's heavy, it's it's a lot of cover. Yeah, 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:34.920 I wonder what that cost and how many hours going 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:36.880 to almost so from your shoulder looks like from your 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.400 shoulders you elbow is pretty much all black with a design. Yeah, 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:44.920 we're talking about two grand and twelve hours plus the outline. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.039 It's about fourteen hours worth of work I did. We 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.840 did twelve in one day and that was just laid 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.240 in a chair every time. Man, it was dude, I 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.240 was after six hours or ithing like, what the hell 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.320 was I thinking? And if have you ever had like 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.040 the worst sunburnover and then take that and like have 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.640 cat scratch fever or something. You know, like it's just 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.359 like sandpaper on sunburn. But you know it was. It was. 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.520 You know, I'm one of those people that like to 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.280 get it done and be done with it. You have 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.800 on your back. Unfortunately you do, you have you I've 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.520 got the speaking about being douchey. My first tattoo was 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.360 my own last name on my back. I made a 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.800 lot of mistakes when I was twenty six, by the way, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.040 So you got that at twenty six, Yeah, right after 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.919 I was on idol. What font though, that's a big 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.840 part of it. See, that's the douchey part. It's an 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:40.360 old English It looks kind of like um, almost like 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:44.000 the font you would picture godsmack being written in. Yeah, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.640 so it's like it's funny, it's god. There's a god 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.800 smack font in my mind. Oh yeah, you nailed it. Yeah. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.000 So um. It was one of those things where I 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.120 get off the show and they have this whole home 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.840 coming and and people are coming out of the woodwork 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:02.880 and You've got Hardy going, hey, we want to give 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.560 you a bike, which I never ride. So I was 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.000 like oh, that sounds cool. Then I found out they 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.000 weren't really giving it to me. They were just wanting 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.720 me to ride it and sport their their brand or 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:17.240 whatever at the local station. And then they then this 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.000 tattoo shop was like, well, tattoo you for free. And 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.520 I was like, I've always wanted a tattoo, but at 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.920 the time, I hadn't had none, had had no tattoos, 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.600 and and I think the coolest thing I had done 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.600 at that point, right before I went on the show, 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.800 I was had my labre prest and then I took 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.320 that out pretty soon after because I kept grabbing it 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.160 with my teeth when I was trying to eat. Said 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.920 I wouldn't know by just us saying lebre but it's 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.640 the like the chin. Yeah, it's like it's like where 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:47.360 they call the soul patch where uh you know, it 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.520 had a spike and it was Yeah, it was painful. Yeah, 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.840 I'll be honest, that was It was actually more painful 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.080 when your tooth would catch it when you're eating. I 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:01.080 eat really fast and it would end up and inevitably 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.160 grab it every time. And I got to the point 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.320 I was like, fun this, I'm ripping this thing out 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.800 and and I never went back. But then I wanted 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.600 a tattoo. Doing all the things I'm like trying to 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.720 trying to fit into this rock. I don't know, I think, um, 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.520 you know, as a kid, I always I wanted a tattoo, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.680 remember being there's a reason why they don't give nine 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.839 year old tattoos. I wanted the bat symbol tattooed on 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.920 my chest as as a nine year old. And I 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:28.640 was like, man, if they could, if I could get 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.440 a tattoo, I would totally do this. In hindsight, like 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.760 I know me then I would have absolutely done it 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.160 given the opportunity. Well, let me ask you this question. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:38.919 If you had to go back and either get the 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.240 bat symbol now on your chest or your name read 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.040 down on your back, I would do the bat symbol 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.640 in a heartbeat way less if you had to pick 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.240 one of the Yeah, it was one of those things. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.240 My wife was like, well, you know you you said 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.960 you're gonna call the band daughter. You know. I worked 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.280 at a car dealership and everybody always called me by 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.640 my last name. They always called everybody of the last name. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.520 It was kind of I don't know, it sounded like 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.000 a military thing, like hey, daughter to do this, do this, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:11.640 you know. And and so when I was coming off 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.640 the show, was like, I wanted to be a band. 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.479 I didn't want to be like a solo pop artist. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.200 I wanted to be a band. That's what I grew 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.880 up listening to. That is what inspired me. And so 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.360 I was like, well, we could always call it Daughtry 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.440 for you know, name recognition, say, kind of like the 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:30.440 Bojovithing and and so she was like, when your last 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.720 name is not gonna change, so let's just just do that. 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.520 You know. How do you feel about that name of 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.440 the band dodtry, coming right off the worst band name ever? Think? 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.799 So is that something that you woult because of the name? Right? Yeah, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.840 it is a big thing, and I wanted I didn't 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.920 like that was my least like that was my best 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.279 worst option, you know. I was like, well, we gotta 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:55.520 go with something recognizable. Um, I can't just come out 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.240 with some random band name coming off the show like that, 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.839 because then you know, nobody's gonna know what it is. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.040 I mean, I guess I could have, and it worked. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:10.839 It's tough though, to explain for Jared Letto after though, 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.880 they had a I mean really after It's like it 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:18.960 was hard. It's hard to puncture mainstream until something does it. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.400 I mean, in thirty seconds to Mars had a song 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.479 before I think most of America realized oh, that's the 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.120 actor too. Yeah, people didn't even remember my so called life. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.640 They were just like, oh, he looks kind of familiar. 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.520 Now you're right, I guess the band broke before he 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.800 actually broke As a it was almost a cool thing 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.640 on the side. It was kind of like, oh, I 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.039 love this song, and did you know it's also Jared Letto. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.640 And then it became Jared Letto's band and it kind 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.760 of manifested back into But they're also just really good. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.279 Like it always comes back to doubt that there are 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.200 a million actors trying to have bands, but unless you're 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.560 really freaking good, it doesn't matter. Yeah, and he's really good. 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.080 He's great. Talk to him. Probably six months or so 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.680 ago I saw him and I think Los Angeles, and 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:58.760 I went up to him and he's warning this whole 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:05.359 Jesus outfit with the beer and it all looks like Jesus, right, yeah, yeah, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.840 but he smells so good. Yeah, and he does like 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.000 a guy like that was picturing like more Petuli kind 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.600 of me too. He smells like kind of like Valentine's did. 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:20.280 If I had to pick up a smell could roses like. Yeah, 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.800 he just wanted to love him, you know, that's awesome. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.000 I've met him briefly and that was in his more 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:31.760 of his uh eyeliner days, the red hair and the eyeliner. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.920 So it was briefly at like a Grammy's party or something, 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:38.840 but never really had a full conversation with him. Let me, 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:40.800 seems like a cool guy though. Yeah, it's real nice 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:41.920 to me. He didn't have to be nice to me. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:43.920 It was super nice to me. So let me play 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.120 some of the number ones here, it's not over. Here's 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:54.720 this one. I was doing a pop and rock and 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.280 hip hop when this song was out. Yeah, I think 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.240 I think we spoke, didn't We probably listen. We had 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.760 a not so good experience, and we can we can 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:07.720 talk about that. But I would love to the play 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.480 by play. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.800 Let's run to the songs and then we can actually talk. Okay. Cool. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:17.120 So that was two thousand six or seven. Two th 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.720 six or seven. Yeah, Yeah, that was the first one, right, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.440 that was the first song. You co wrote that, so 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.760 you actually made some money off that? Yeah? Yeah, I UM. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.000 I actually kept telling my producer at the time. I 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:29.560 was like, this is gonna be the single, this has 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.400 to be a single, and he's like, label's not gonna 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.240 go for that, and um and they did and it 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.760 worked out. I always just felt like there was it 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.360 was like the perfect hybrid between, you know, the grunge 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.400 that I grew up listening to and the the accessible 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.360 rock that was on the radio at the time. Did 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.160 you feel like you had to meet a certain radio 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.959 standard when you were making music early on? Did you 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.440 feel like you had to sort of chase something? And 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.880 I think I did it inherently, um, just because not 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.280 necessarily chasing. Let me rephrase, I think I did it 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.679 based on what I loved at the time. So I 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.440 kind of modeled what I was writing around the bands 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:10.959 that I was into at the time, and I wasn't 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:15.200 really paying attention to lyrics. I was into bands like 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:20.400 Live and Pearl Jam, Sound Garden, Tool Like. I wasn't 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.200 paying attention to lyrics as much as I was the 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:26.440 melodies and the way it grabbed me, you know. So, um, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.840 So I remember writing a lot heavier and a lot 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.800 more just I wasn't really paying attention to the story 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.559 so much. It was more just thoughtless lyrics. And then 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:42.239 I think I started paying more attention to the songwriting 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:46.280 aspects and the and the storytelling and things. Uh. In 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.600 my later twenties, I started going back and listening to 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.600 you know, Elton John and a lot of the singer 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.160 songwriters that inspired the people that I listened to and 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.719 kind of did my homework that way. This one was 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:04.160 a monster home Come on, I wrote that one all. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.960 I wrote that, like right before going on idol Man. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.040 I mean, that's is that the monster jam that you 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.520 play during a show when everyone's like everyone knows it 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.320 is that the one? And you know it's crazy, Like 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:24.920 sorry to interrupt, but it's also the one song that 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.040 I'm like, if I had to pick a song that 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.600 I'm tired of playing, like, that's the one. But at 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.120 the same time, it's the most impactful. It's I was 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.560 looking at your interview with Mayor and you guys started talking. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.680 I'm like, oh my god, I've had this same conversation. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:42.079 It's it's the ones that that feel like I didn't 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.320 really work hard to write this. This kind of like 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.280 fell in my lap. I wrote it, kind of wrote itself. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.600 It's like the first five chords I ever learned how 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.800 to play on guitar, you know, and uh it's the 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.760 one that has had the most impact around the world 0:10:54.800 --> 0:11:00.800 as far as like like the troops, military families and um, 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:05.120 you know, so many like people of like that come 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.559 to me and said, we used this to send our 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.120 uh A family member off at their funeral. Like all 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:15.040 kinds of different usages for the song that I never 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.000 thought of when I was writing it. I was like, 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.600 I'm about to leave my house, you know, and go 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:24.200 on American Idol for uh, you know, I've never like 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.720 left my wife and kids on and I have no 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.920 idea what I'm about to do or get into and 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.080 what's going to happen. And I'm in l a. We 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.120 all lived in North Carolina at the time, and I 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:35.960 just kind of got in that mindset like what it's 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:37.480 like to be away. I didn't even know what it 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.880 was like a foreshadowing, if you will. So yeah, that 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.839 the John Mairic conversation was for me for someone to 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.200 understand what I was talking about. Because if you go 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.040 back and there's an older episode if you're listening now, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:49.720 or I was talking to John May and I said, hey, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.440 some of these jokes that are just so easy and 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:52.800 down the middle for me, I don't even like telling, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.560 but they get the they're the ones, and I'm like, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.280 there's no effort in them. And I feel like a 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.840 fraud that I'm using that easiest thing. And if people 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.280 are loving it, so it makes me not want to 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.720 do it anymore because I feel like I can work 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.720 harder and it doesn't feel challenging to you. And he said, dude, 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.360 I do the same thing, And I thought, wow, and 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.680 and the and what we've done lately is I've just 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.640 I go out there with an acoustic guitar and I 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.280 play it without the band, and the whole first chorus 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.680 is all crowd and it's and I'm like, wow that 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:30.720 I guess that was something that I guess every songwriter 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.680 hopes to accomplish. You know that that even if you 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.920 have one song, that they're able to sing all the 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.160 words too, and you can just stop and they're all 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.800 on the same page. And that's that's what makes it 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.880 special now because it's it I feel that it's actually 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.240 doing something for them. I like a candid you are 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.360 about it, because all the artists that have major hits 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.000 feel that way, and even if they won't say it, 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:54.880 they have songs that they've had for so long there 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.400 were monsters for them. In a bit, they would like 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.800 to move on, but they also know that the people 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.640 love it and if they didn't play a song or 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.760 do whatever they do, that the people would leave disappointed. Yeah, 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.240 and so a bit you have to put the people 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.520 before you. Yeah. We went to see Billy Joel the 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.320 other night and uh at Madison Square Garden and granted, 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.800 he has so many hits, like it's impossible to play 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.520 them all. I mean, we'd be there all night. But 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.240 as I'm leaving, I'm thinking, oh, ship, he didn't play 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:30.480 just the way you are and that that was act. 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.880 Wasn't thinking of that during the show, because you're like, oh, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:35.720 I forgot about that's all. I forgot about that song. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.360 But for us, we only have like you know, like 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.520 a handful of of hits, so we've got to be 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.679 more selective of what we choose not to play. The 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.680 Billy Joel thing is good though, if you then Brian 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.880 Adams came out, did yeah, Oh that's cool. Yeah, Encore. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.240 Ryan Adams came out with Billy Joel Atian and the Encore. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.079 They came out and did uh or Billy came out 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.160 and they did I think we didn't start the fire, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.800 and then uh, out of nowhere, Brian Adams comes out 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.840 and they do Summer six nine. It was crazy. Yeah, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.480 that's cool. In the whole crowd, not just the second 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.680 he hit the Danger Danger. Everybody just lost their minds, 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:16.360 including me. I was like a little girl. Billy Joel's 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.040 funny because he can still sing him but he has 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.360 to he has to change a key in on the 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.040 song at least a whole stuff. Yeah, because he's getting older. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.880 An Elton did the same thing when I saw him. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.520 Those Billy Joel songs are so high though when he 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.640 was much younger that he's saying in a really high 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:34.360 spot just naturally. Yeah, him and Elton, they were both 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.840 in these upper registers. That's the show. I've seen both 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.080 of them together too, and they do the dueling pianos. 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.320 It was cool. I kind of knew a little bit 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.280 of the story because I'd get to spend it was 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:46.640 just such a name drop thing, but I can spend 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.800 a little time with Eulton John and they really just 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.280 they hate each other. I don't know that they hate 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.160 each other heard but they Okay, well, I don't know 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.240 what you heard. I've only heard that they don't talk 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:57.800 and they go out on stage and do the show 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:02.320 in their way. Again, like there's nothing there's not from 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.680 what I've heard, there's not a real friendship there. But 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.920 they play it up so wonderfully. And if you didn't know, 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.200 you wouldn't know, because the first time I saw was like, 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.080 that's amazing. They're best friends. I wonder if they have 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.520 like some eye signals that they're doing up there, just 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.000 like and they switch over to each other songs and 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.640 you're like, Oprah, sure they haven't dinner after yea that 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.320 they're they're talking about each other each other's dinner, probably 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.240 into the into the side microphone. They probably whispering things 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.720 to each other about each other. Let me talk about 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.600 sleep number for one second. Sleep is important. Talk about this. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.720 It's where in my house your mattress makes a big difference. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.360 And if you go downstairs into my bedroom you will 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.600 see a sleep number bed because I love it, had 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.000 one forever. I gotta be honest with you. 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I know that because yeah, I'm 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.320 gonna play some of the new record in a second 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.200 to because you have the new stuff, but you can't 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.800 get away from the big ones because the fans deserve 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.480 to hear them. And and I'm in the weird place 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.440 of being a fan of music and going I went 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.240 and saw arin this is the thing that shaped me 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.360 with music can having to play the head. I want 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.360 to see r M once And they didn't play a 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.920 single song that it was all new records. Oh man, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:08.960 I was so even if they had given me one 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:15.240 or two like no drive, no religion, no orange, not 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:19.200 even the frequency, none of that. It was all new stuff. 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.840 Huge at the point where I just needed a couple 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.600 and I thought, man, I'm never going to be the 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.720 guy regardless of what I do that just goes out 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.359 and just goes all new, like Brooks who was a 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.119 little self indulgent. Right, But isn't what we do? I 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.520 mean no, I mean like to do nothing but new 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.919 stuff and and think that that the fans don't want 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.640 to hear the other it is. But to be fair, 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.920 what we do is self indulgent. So it's a low 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.600 hypocritical to go. It's so self indulgent to them. And 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.960 here I am, you know, hoping that another million people 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.280 listened to this podcast of you and I. So yeah, 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.280 what we do self indulgence. But I was disappointed. But 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.280 I thought, I'm always going to be a opponent of 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.040 playing making sure the fans here that it's you know, 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.280 but artists talk all the time off the microphone, like, man, 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:08.040 I don't want to play the song. I'm struggling with it. Yeah, 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.240 you gotta play the big ones. There's some nights where 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.959 we're just like this one again. Is there any way 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:14.880 to swap it out? That we have some that we 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.680 just don't play, um, because it's actually some just don't 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.240 go over as well. A little piece of trivia about 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.200 that song though, feel like Tonight. Yeah, that was written 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:28.280 by Max Martin and Dr Luke and it was that 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.479 was one of the last songs added to the record 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.959 when we were making the first record, and it was 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.879 what they had written for me. Had I won the show, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:37.760 Oh that was gonna be the song that was gonna 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.800 be my winning song if I want? Yeah? Was it 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.400 because I was it's funny how my American idol life, 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:45.679 And you know, I really wasn't. I don't much with you, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.239 but I feel while I was on the show last year, 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:49.919 I did a bunch of episodes as a mentor this 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:53.040 last year, and so it's I've kind of got into 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:58.200 it and saw what happens mentoring the contestants from week 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.080 to week, and so it's it's a very different format 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:03.919 than when I was on there. Well, to me, I 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.280 was just struck at how locked away everyone is. Yeah, 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.760 like you just are in your own insulated bubble. You 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.959 have no idea what's going. You don't see the judges, 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.760 like a lot of fans just don't realize, like we 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.880 see the judges when they do on television, like right 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.479 there at their desk and that's it. Like I've see them, 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.040 and they say, I haven't seen Luke or Katie at all. 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.000 I see. They would tell me they see me far 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:28.679 more than they see the judges, And I thought that 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.399 was crazy. And you guys didn't have social media, so 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:33.000 I don't know, did you guys know how famous you 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.840