1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: The following program has been pre reported. Ron Anian, what 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: if I wanted to rent an electric view? Because he says, 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: what you can't, she said, budget tried the electric car routine. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: We've tried renting electric vehicles, and we just got too 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: many calls from people that ran out of electricity in 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: the middle of the cycle because they didn't understand how 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: to rent them or where they rent them, or they 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: couldn't rent them but they couldn't drive far enough down 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor, I've given Tom the day off and 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: I decided to take it as well, for a variety 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: of reasons, one of which Tom is gonna get to 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: mention the next point that is so, but Tom knows one. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: you're mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage orders are open, but 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: five and now running. Ah, you shouldn't have so oh 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: to be sixteen again. Actually I wouldn't want to be 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: sixteen again, Tom. Maybe I want the wisdom. I want 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: the wisdom of fifty at one. And you know, I'm 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: actually very happy right now because on the video link 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: we have going here, you're not wearing your birthday suit. 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: That's right, you know, well it's uh, you know, the 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: thing is, well, that's a whole another, that's a whole 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: another thing I want to talk to. I want to 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: talk today about um. We we've got a crazy great 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: show again, you know I I you know, by the way, Tom, 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk to see if you can get 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Lynn Susio. He was, he was a member. He was 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: he was a member of the Connecticut States Senate. UM 33 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: he left office in but I'm reading a letter that 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: he wrote or a statement where he talks about the 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: electric car future. And this guy makes so much sense. 36 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: And it's not because he's saying his appeal to me, 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Isn't that he's you know, saying we're not ready for 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: an electric car future. Here's a guy who's actually backing 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: it with facts. What a concept politician with facts? Did 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: you know? Did you know that Toyota You might have 41 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: heard of Toyota right there there a car company they've 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: been around a little bit, a little car company. Yeah, 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a car company. Toyota is saying, 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: and has been saying all along, Pat, we're not ready 45 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: for all electric car future now or by you know what? 46 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: I heard that the other day. I think it was 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: part of a newscast. And yet we're barreling along to 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: do this. You know, is there a stupid pill or 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: a stupid banner written across our forehead? Like what are 50 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: we thinking? And we're just gonna do this? And you know, 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: Toyota says no, Honda says no. You might have a 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Honda right there. They're right up there. They're they're just 53 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: like Toyota. They're just like a big car company. Right. Um, 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: I can't the letter he wrote in the argument he makes. 55 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: I would love to talk to this gentleman. I think 56 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: he's uh. I think he would be a great interview 57 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: to get, you know, and again, we're looking for the facts, right, 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: We're looking for the truth here. So we're willing to 59 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: talk to anybody from any side of the table, you know, 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: as long as you know the only thing we don't 61 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: want to hear out of your mouth is that if 62 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: you're wrap your head and aluminum foil, you can charge 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: the car electrically by putting your finger in the ash 64 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: tray or the cigarette lighter, because the solar waves are 65 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: gonna energize the battery. We want truths here, if not 66 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: not nonsense, so we want to do that that it works. Yeah, 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: it works. It's once in a while. I remember truth, 68 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: Remember truth. I think I was. I think I was 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: sixteen tonight. I'm sorry today, whatever day it is, we're 70 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna be joined by Steven Ethridge Stephen is Uh. I 71 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: love Stephen to death. You know, I've never at Stephen, 72 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: but I talked to him, you know, over the past 73 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: six months. He's from Opus I v. S. And we 74 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: have these great conversations about cars repair, the problems in 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: California because he's California based most of the time, and 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: the things that he says, and it's just this rambling, 77 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: freestyle conversation. I said, you know, Stephen, I've got to 78 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: get you on air. I you know, I want to 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: capture it for posterity, but also for the listenership. So 80 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: I want you guys to hear that. And it's it's funny, 81 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: right I I actually thought of interviewing Stephen when I 82 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: was in the Gulf of Mexico two weeks ago, see 83 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Doing When the when I lost the part? What would 84 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: actually I see Tom's laughing, But the truth is, you know, 85 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: if you missed that show, I was on vacation and 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: I was see Doing about a mile off shore off 87 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: the coast of southwest Florida, and I lost the group 88 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: and I was stuck out in the middle of the 89 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: gulf and my you know, I've got a little paralysis 90 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: in my right hand. My carpetal tunnel was kicking up 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: or whatever is going on there, and I needed to 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: rest it for a minute. And I see a dorsal 93 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: fin go by, and the first thought I had was well, first, 94 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, first thought uh, and then I realized it 95 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: was a dolphin, not a But you know, all of 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, you see this little finn come up and 97 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, but I said, you know, I need 98 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: a bigger boat. I said, I've got to get out 99 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: of this problem. You need a bigger boat. And for 100 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: some reason in my mind it triggered maybe maybe it's 101 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: my safe place, right, you know, you gotta when you're 102 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: a mile off shore all by yourself and three foot 103 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: waves on a sea, do with something circling. Uh, maybe 104 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: you go to your safe place. It made me think 105 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: of opus, you know, getting out of trouble. And I 106 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: said to myself, you know, opus is kind of like 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: the bigger boat. Uh. And it's funny because I mentioned 108 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: it to Stephen uh the other day when we were 109 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: talking about doing the interview that we're gonna do at 110 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour today, and I said, Stephen, 111 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: did you ever think you know that in order repair 112 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: you've always you always need a bigger boat. And he said, Ron, 113 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: when it comes to diagnostics, you want to go for 114 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: the biggest boat right off the bat. It just makes 115 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: life a whole lot easier. So um, Steven gets it, 116 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna talk to him down around 117 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. I want to also talk 118 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: a little bit about, you know, fishing with hand grenades. 119 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: And I know we talked about this and maybe it's 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: appropriate a segue from the Gulf of Mexico and dolphins 121 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: into fishing with hand grenades. I noticed that the trend 122 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna base this. I'm gonna tell you this. 123 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: I based all of my things on real experiences. We 124 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: had a new customer in the shop this week Arlene. 125 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: Arlene had been going to one of the local Honda dealers. 126 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: And this isn't a reflection on all dealers. This has 127 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: just happens to be the way that one of the 128 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: local Honda dealers around US operates. And she had gone 129 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: in for a recall on her air conditioner on Honda 130 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: and a thirty four thousand mile car, and she came 131 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: out with a laundry list of you need this, you 132 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: need this, you need this, you need this. Nice little 133 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: you know, grandma type was around the corner from the shop, 134 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: just moved to the neighborhood. She asked around somehow we 135 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: have a good reputation. I can't figure out. I guess 136 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: people like wine. And you know, she ended up in 137 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: our doorway, and you know, I looked the car over, 138 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: and I always love to see that car come in 139 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: from the dealer or from another shop where it's been 140 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: getting quote unquote service properly. There's four screws that hold 141 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: the front lower splash shield in place, but you have 142 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: to lower the splash shield to get to the oil 143 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: drain plug and the oil filter. Well, two of those 144 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 1: screws were missing. One of the quick fasteners was missing. 145 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Which that's sort of a foul tip because I've seen 146 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: those fall fall out too before. That's not completely uncommon 147 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: or impossible. But the one that got me, the one 148 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 1: that always seems to get me, that the Honda dealers 149 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: that I've had experience with seemed to do is the 150 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: drain plug gasket. I don't understand. And you know what, 151 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: it's really not just Honda, but this was on a Honda, 152 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna talk to that. I really don't understand 153 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: why it's so difficult to change a drain plug gasket 154 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: when I have to put the drain plug, the engine 155 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: oil drain plug in a vice and hammer and chisel 156 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: the drain plug gasket off of because it's so compressed 157 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: and pounded on. Something's wrong. Now, if you look at 158 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: any Honda service manual, any service procedure, Honda, the manufacturer 159 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: mandates they they specify they want drain plug gas gets 160 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: changed every oil change, and and they're basing that on 161 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: the oil pans aluminum. They're steel threads. It's a steel 162 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: drain plug and the gasket is aluminum, and they have 163 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: a specific torque that they want it. You know, so 164 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: many inch pounds of torque to tighten it down to 165 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: and if you continue to use the old gasket over 166 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: you'll do with this drain plug gasket. Was doing it 167 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: compressed so hard and so far you don't get accurate 168 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: pull on it, and in time you'll pull the threads 169 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: out of the pan. There's also another trick to this too, 170 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: by the way that um there is. There are more 171 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: than a few manufacturers of longer they're about two threads 172 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: longer oil drain plugs that you can put put in 173 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: the hondas and it gives more pull on the threads 174 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: because the pans do get weak from time as they 175 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: get older. But not changing a drain plug gasket just 176 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: it's terrible. It doesn't make any sense. I think the 177 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: point here becomes and you know what I had said 178 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: to Arlene. Arlene came in and we we we had 179 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: a nice little chat and I explained to her who 180 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: we are and what we do. I didn't tell her everything. 181 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: I don't really talk about the show at the shop. 182 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: And I explained to her that you know, she's been 183 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: going and this is in my opinion, last time I checked, 184 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: I'm still allowed to have that that she's been going somewhere. 185 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: She showed me the list of what they said she needed, 186 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, you're going somewhere where they're 187 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: fishing with hand grenades. Every car that comes in drives 188 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: over an alignment machine. Every car that comes in gets 189 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: a checklist. Every car that comes in, they go through 190 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: their service records and they try to make the upsell 191 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: based on time and mileage without any consideration of how 192 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: that vehicle is being operated. If they do ten per 193 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: hour per service writer protect whatever the number is. If 194 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: they do ten per hour and they get five people 195 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: to say yes, that's a fifty success rate that goes 196 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: above and beyond just the oil change they were doing. Now, 197 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying cars that come in for oil changes 198 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: don't need service and maintenance, but I have seen some extraordinary, 199 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean extraordinary, three year old cars that are flushing 200 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: every fluid on the car with less than thirty thousand 201 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: miles on them, and the only thing they really ended 202 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: up doing is they're flushing the owner's wallet or pocketbook, 203 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. I said, Darline. I said, 204 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's there's two kinds of repair shops 205 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: in my mind, and two types of customers. And you 206 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: gotta decide what do you want to be? Do you 207 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: want to be a name or a number? And we 208 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: had a nice little chat. She said, you know, I 209 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: want to be a name, and I said, well that's us. 210 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: We're kind of what we want to know your name 211 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: sort of shop. We're kind of like cheers, right. We 212 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: want to know who you are and what you are. 213 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: And when you walk in the door, we may not 214 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: shout out norm but you know we're likely going to 215 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: shout out high Arlene. You know. You know, by the way, 216 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: the last time you're in it was from break time 217 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: or coming do and that kind of a thing. Nowhere 218 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: you're going is the moral to the story, as I 219 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: as I closed this segment, before we go to the break, 220 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: know where you're going, know who you're dealing with. You know, 221 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: it's just as important to deal with good people as 222 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: it is to deal with a good shop. And you know, 223 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: you don't want to go someplace where they're fishing with 224 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: hand grenades. You don't want to go someplace where they've 225 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: got the deck stacked against you by simple virtue. So 226 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: many times I hear people say I don't trust the 227 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: repair shop I'm going to, But yet they continued to go, 228 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: and our lean said, I've had enough. I stopped, and 229 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking for something better. You know what, there's something 230 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: better out there. There's a lot of something better is 231 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: out there. You just got to keep looking. Because if 232 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: they can't change the drain plug gasket, they can't do 233 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: the little things, what are they doing wrong on the 234 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: big things? And that's the question? Zero running any of 235 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: the car doctor, We're coming back right after this. Don't 236 00:11:54,679 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: go away. What's more fun than listening to run on 237 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor and getting that car fixed? Right? Five? 238 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: Five five zero zero zero, Give her on a call. 239 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron. Hey, let's get over and talk 240 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: to Medal in in Middletown, New York. Medal and welcome 241 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can I help? Um? Two 242 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, I purchased the two thousand thirteen Chevy Spark. 243 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: I had it for nine years. I loved it. UM. 244 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: In two thousand and fourteen, I'm driving on the highway. 245 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: The car went out of gear. The drive neutral, reverse, 246 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: and low went off to dash. I had no power. 247 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: I coasted to the side of the road, shut it off. 248 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: A couple of seconds later, turned it on. It was fine, 249 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: went to the deal. They told me they couldn't duplicate 250 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: the problem. It didn't show up on the computer. So 251 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: I took it home, and since that time it happened 252 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: five more times. I would bring it in each time 253 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: and each time they could not duplicate it. Then, in 254 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, Chevy came out with a technical service 255 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: bulletin saying that some two thousand thirteen Chevy sparks would 256 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: um have an intermittent lack of power where the transmission 257 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: would not shift. And that's exactly what would happen. Okay, 258 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: they say it only happened to the ones equipped with 259 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: an eight dish forty l E automatic transmission, which apparently 260 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: I had. UM They said that there was there was 261 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: one they called it a P n P connector switch 262 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,359 Speaker 1: that they had a change and then checked spread terminals, 263 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: bent pins missing, were damaged, whether seal or signs of 264 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: moisture intrusion. And you want to know what after this 265 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: bullets and no, I know what it is after this 266 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: bullets and came out they fix that car four more times. 267 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: It happened four more times after en Each time they 268 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: would change and change and change it. Well, this past year, 269 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: I had to take a long trip. I didn't trust 270 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: the car anymore, and I traded it in. In the interim, 271 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: I wrote a letter to Mary Bevera, the head of GM, 272 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: and explain the whole situation. To my shock and surprise, 273 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: I did get a call back from GM. Now. They 274 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: said they couldn't do anything about it because I didn't 275 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: have the car anymore, and they would give me a 276 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: three year, thirty six thousand mile warranty as a consolation price. 277 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: So my question is, had anybody else had this problem? 278 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: Apparently it wasn't enough of the problem for correct still 279 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: has the problem? Correct, It's it's it wasn't enough. Um. 280 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: I've come across similar things, and you know, I'll give 281 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: you an example right now in the shop. I've got 282 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: a fourteen Chevy Silverado pickup truck that the customers complaint 283 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: is driving along on the highway with the crew set 284 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: at fifty five miles. If he puts the directional on 285 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: and goes left or right, the cruise shuts off. I 286 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: haven't been able to duplicate it. I haven't been able 287 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: to duplicate it, but I was able to duplicate it 288 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: because it's random. I did have the experience where it's 289 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: set a pile of codes because I drove it long enough, 290 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: and when I would flash to pass, when I would 291 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: turn high beams to low beams and vice versa, I 292 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: can get the cruise to turn off. So I've sort 293 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: of got a similar problem now I got I think 294 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm up to forty miles on this truck, so I 295 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: had to I've had to drive it quite a bit, 296 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: and I guess part of my point becomes, I think 297 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: everything is reparable. Maybe they just didn't drive it enough, 298 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: or they didn't assign a tech to it. You know. 299 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: It's it's also a case of how much does does 300 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: you the customer want to pay to put into it? 301 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: Diagnostic wise? Can I tell you what's wrong with that 302 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: car exactly? No, because I wasn't there, right, But I 303 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: can tell you what diagnostic procedure should have been, if 304 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Um, it's just that you know, somebody, 305 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: somebody should have driven that vehicle, and they should have 306 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: tapped into the wiring and the connectors and the suspect 307 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: components at different places and points in time, and you know, 308 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: started measuring and reading voltage. The question becomes, you know, 309 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: what's the value of the vehicle. Is it worth the time? 310 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: Because here's what And I know you're for us trade, 311 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: and I feel your frustration metal and yes, the thirteen, fourteen, 312 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: fifteen Sparks had all sorts of connector issues, transmission problems 313 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: just like this fourteen and fifteen Chevy Silverado pickups they've 314 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: had they have weak electrical systems. But my point becomes 315 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: that you know, this is the way of the future. 316 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: If you think it was tough fixing that little spark, 317 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: why do we get into a or and the newer 318 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: vehicles and the vehicles that are on the drawing board, 319 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: everything is so predominantly connector centric, I think is the 320 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: word I want to use. They're so critical that they 321 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: have good positive connection, that they have good positive components. 322 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: I think the diagnostics of the future is going to 323 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: be and I'm doing that with this Silverado, is going 324 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: through wiring, verifying powers and grounds and making sure they're 325 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: all good, clean and tight. And then sometimes you're gonna 326 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: have a car like yours where it's just gonna take 327 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more to fix it. Sorry, I couldn't 328 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: do more for your madel and I wish you still 329 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: had the car. I bet we could fix it, but 330 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: you know it's um, it's it's where you're at right now. Yeah, 331 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: what did you end up buying? Real quick? Can you 332 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: tell me you're very welcome Madeline? You'd be well. I'm 333 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: runing any of the car doctor coming up next? Stephen 334 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: E dropus I V S. We'll talk to Stephen about 335 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: a lot of things. Don't go away. We're back right 336 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: after this, welcome back run needing of the car doctor. 337 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't ask for a better segue, and 338 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: I'm I'm hoping Stephen heard the previous call Madeline from Middletown. 339 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: We're their thirteen Chevy Spark. Let me let me get 340 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: Stephen up on the mic. There, Stephen Ether dropus I 341 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: V S. How are you today, sir? I'm doing great? Ron, 342 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: How are you all right? Did you um? Did you 343 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: hear the previous caller? Did they log you in enough time? 344 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: Did you happen to hear Madeline talking about her thirteen 345 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: Chevy Spark? I did not. Okay, so we just had 346 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: a call, and you know, I couldn't help but think 347 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: how opus would solve this? Right? She had a thirteen 348 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: Chevy Sparks. She doesn't on the car anymore, because after 349 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: nine years of trying to get it fixed, she just 350 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: gave up and traded it in. She just got to 351 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: the point where she couldn't trust the car. She had 352 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: a thirteen Chevy Spark that would at random, just you know, 353 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: flash the park neutral drive prindle lights on the dash 354 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: would come on, go off, come on, go off, and 355 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: the car would have no power. It was if the 356 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: transmission was neutral ng And every time she took it 357 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: into the dealer, the dealer would say, well, there's no 358 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: fault codes. We can't fix it. When we can never 359 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: duplicate the problem, then GM right there, you go right 360 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: and and you would be where our guys would dig in, 361 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: go in with backary equipment or whatever it was necessary 362 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: in order to dig out the information and are um, 363 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: it sounds it sounds like you've got a situation, you know. 364 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean it could range from anything from hardware software 365 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: to a wiring problem or no wiggle test is going 366 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: to give it up, but there's gonna be a telltale 367 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: sign somewhere right. One of the guys, one of the 368 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: guys that opens would be able to pick pick it 369 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: up and and and feel it from there and and 370 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: and and that's kind of where I want to start 371 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: this conversation today, Stephen, because I think it's important that 372 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: no code, I've got a problem, no code diagnosis. It's 373 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: it is possible to fix those cars, but it depends 374 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: upon the diagnostic approach, and it depends upon the equipment 375 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: you're using, and how you're going to get information that 376 00:20:54,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: may not be readily apparent. Fair statement, fair statement, And 377 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: there's a great deal of information that's not just on 378 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: the front page, and you have to kind of right. 379 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things I've learned about the OPUS, 380 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: if we can call it that, the I VS Tool 381 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: is I love When you do a quick test, you 382 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: have the option up. Do you want to look at 383 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: history codes? Do you want to look at codes that 384 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: have been cleared? Do you want to look at codes 385 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: that have not run this cycle? Do you want to 386 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: just look at current faults? And Yeah, you've got the 387 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: Mode three UM, the zero way, which is permanent DTCs. 388 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: Those are gccs held in memory. Anything that has to 389 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: do with your missions UM that sets the code will 390 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: hold a code even if you clear them. You've got 391 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: Mode seven, which is defending UM. And then you've got 392 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: the mode three that is the current and you know, 393 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: bright lit up in your face code. But there's also 394 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's also a backstory in there. This is 395 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: a computer so I don't know if you've ever had 396 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: a computer genius get on your computer with you remotely. 397 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: But there's celted, there's bread crumbs. You can follow the 398 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: flood crumbs to a point. And it takes a train 399 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: guy somebody that squared away at the table to know 400 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: this vehicle and know the pattern failure, you get it. 401 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: You know, think about it this way. If you've got 402 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: a guy, the technician on the phone, and he's working 403 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: in an office, and each of our three office has 404 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: handled about nine hundred phone calls per day, you're gonna 405 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: see five or six of these sparks and it's not 406 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: going to be the only one with this issue, right well, 407 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: and I think that's probably you know, this is the 408 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: future of auto repair. And you know, Stephen, we've had 409 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: this conversation before where we talk about it's so specialized. 410 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: Now what was the number you gave me the other day? 411 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: We were talking about how you have to know so 412 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: much BMW, how many different models of BMW are there? 413 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: At nine we stopped counting like a hundred thirty five 414 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: different models over the span of its production, you know 415 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: dmw's production span. And even for one guy to be 416 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: able to get to the point where he's even familiar 417 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: with just that one car line, I mean all the 418 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: ins and outs and all the little bells and whistles, 419 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: would be very, very difficult for a guy to be 420 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: able to keep up with just the models that are 421 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: in current production on the car today, let alone all 422 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: the ones that backfilled the production of the vehicle. UM, 423 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: the big dealers, we we had a guide in just 424 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: a short story. UM got a great DMW technician, probably 425 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: one of our superstars out their partners in the field, 426 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: and he knew what was wrong with the car. He 427 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: had a right rear wheel speed sensor code. He also 428 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: had an SRS code, and he went after the SRS 429 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: code first and replaced the air bag module, the seatbelt 430 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: latch on the driver's side, and UM the air bag 431 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: module and the string wheel and in the sr US 432 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: module in the center console of the vehicle. Yet the 433 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: code remained, so he puts in the support request and 434 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: one of our technicians, We've got a bunch of great 435 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: ones out there, BMW. We've got Nelson and Brandon, all 436 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: kinds of guys out there. But they reached in and 437 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: he says, I know something about this. We ran into 438 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: this before. And he went into the VMW current information 439 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: and he couldn't find it, And so he went into 440 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: his archive that he had on hand that he's downloaded 441 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: and found out that the right rear wheel speed sensor 442 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: works in conjunction with the inertia sensor in the s 443 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: RS module to determine where in the car and at 444 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: what level to deploy the airbags. We instructed him to 445 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: replace the right rear wheel speed sensor. The code went away. 446 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: He installed all the original equipment and the code stayed away. 447 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: But if it hadn't been for that one guy had 448 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: that experience, you know, how how far efficient do you 449 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: have to go before you start, you know, backing up 450 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: and um taking a rethink at this. But we get 451 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: so focused in on it's an SRS code, right, and 452 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: we can't get our head out of that to think 453 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: that what other systems might be involved. Well, and you know, 454 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: I've said it for years and this is no news 455 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: flash to the listenership, but I always say fix what 456 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: you know is bad, you know, fix the problem that 457 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: you can see and and stop focusing on what's broken, 458 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: and then tell me what's good on the vehicle. And 459 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: I still see technicians making that mistake, you know, Stephen, 460 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: I think the expression I want to hit you with 461 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: here is, you know, bring a bigger bring a bigger boat. 462 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: I told you the story, I told them the story. 463 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: I told you all fair about how I was see doing. 464 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: And I saw the dolphin Finn and I said, I 465 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: gotta get a bigger seed do And I thought about 466 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: I guess my my go to safety place was. I 467 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: started thinking about the shop and scan tools and what 468 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: I ever see it again? And I thought about Opus 469 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: and on the plane coming back, and I said, that 470 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: would make a great interview about how Opus is the 471 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: bigger boat. You know, where do you see these guys 472 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: making mistakes? The shops that are just throwing party after 473 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: party after part at the car and when it gets 474 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: when it gets to my shop, I left the hood 475 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: and it looks like a parts cannon went off. And 476 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, are they not trained or they just stubborn? 477 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: Do they just not want to succumb to? You know, 478 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: the common sense logic of where the industry is right. Now, 479 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: what do you think the fault is a deal with 480 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of our partners in the field are exceptional, 481 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: and the problem is that the there's two actually that 482 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: the training doesn't come to your town. Um, then we 483 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: service the entire United States, actually the world. But that's 484 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: another story for another time. But then the amount of 485 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: information that's allowed out if you don't do the digging 486 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: and the forward searching. There's guys out there that do. Um. 487 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of partners that I deal with 488 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: out here, the Steve Caruso's, Mike Anderson's, uh, you know, 489 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: all kinds of different individuals. Uh. Mike McCarthy chimes in 490 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: once in a while. But if you don't have the information, 491 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: and you don't have a training that disseminates that information, 492 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: where do you get it? Right? I look at it 493 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of the problem with the technicians is 494 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: they don't know what they don't know. I love that saying. 495 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: Anytime you say that, I chuckle, it just it just 496 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: cracks me up. Yeah, And you know, I mean you 497 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: go in and you're swinging, and you're swinging and swinging. 498 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: It takes that outside guy to take a look in 499 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: from the outside and say, well, you're you know, too 500 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: high with your bat by about two inches. Bring it 501 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: down and you're connect with You need a coach and Steven, 502 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Steven, sit tight right there. Let 503 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: me pull over and take a pause. When we come back, 504 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: I want to pick up where we left off. I 505 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit if you can just 506 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: touch on the electric car future and what do you 507 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: think that's gonna look like for the technicians and how 508 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: they're gonna deal with it and how they're currently dealing 509 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: with it. Anything you can shed no pun intended light 510 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: on the situation. We'll have about five or six minutes. 511 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: I'm running naming the car Doctor. I'm here with Stephen 512 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Etheridge from Opus ivs Opus ivs dot com. Will both 513 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Don't go away, welcome back. 514 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: We're on any of the card doctor. We're here talking 515 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: with Stephen Etheridge of Opus Opus I vs. Diagnostics and 516 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: Scam Steven. Let me throw a curve and you know 517 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: I like to do this. Do you think every vehicle 518 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: is repairable? One more time? Do you think every vehicle? 519 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: Do you think there's an unfixable car out there? I 520 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: do not. Okay, Yeah, that's UM. It's it's if you're 521 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: talking about one thing about OPUS IBS and that's intelligent 522 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 1: vehicle system or support. UM. We come from a systematic 523 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: diagnostic approach and we hit the nail on the head. 524 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: You're just a couple of seconds ago that people don't 525 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: come to your town. Where do you get the training? 526 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: What if you and you were talking about the bigger boat, 527 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: what if you have the opportunity to make a phone 528 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: call when that car hits your service day and ask 529 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: for a guy the bigger boat to come in and 530 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: give you some direction on a diagnostic process. Before you 531 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: entered into the diagnostic process with the car, you're gathering information. 532 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: You do one thing, and another half an hour later, 533 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: a guy calls you up on the phone and he's fully, 534 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: fully um articulate and very very familiar with the vehicle 535 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: and gives you a direct line to where to look. 536 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: Is that an education? And once they tell you where 537 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: to look and how to address this problem? Can they 538 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: ever take that away from you? This is where you're 539 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: op aside, Yes, shine, because you not only get the 540 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: the service that goes with it, I all over new 541 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: partners in the field when they get one of the tools, 542 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: put put the service request in first. When you get 543 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: to the point where you made up your mind on 544 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: which direction you're gonna go, let the UH one of 545 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: our professionals reach out to you and direct him that 546 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: you're either going to give you a pad on the 547 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: back or they may tell you something you didn't know. 548 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: And I think trying to find out, you know, as 549 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: you say, you don't know what you don't know, trying 550 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: to find out what you need to know is the 551 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: future for auto repair our in our In our last 552 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: two minutes here, Stephen talked a little bit about, you know, 553 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: the future of diagnostics. Talk a little bit about you 554 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: know what I want you to talk about were we 555 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: had a great conversation. You gotta do it in sixty 556 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: seconds though. About the California bar California and the software. UM, 557 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: I want you to just touch on that real quick. 558 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: Can you can you inform the listeners what's going on 559 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: in California. The new software that we have employed is 560 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: looking for U data that does not data mismatch. So 561 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: they've got sixteen million cars a year that they smart test, 562 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: and they've got this huge database of what these test 563 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: ideas should look like. And so when you bring in 564 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: the whatever you make a model, what test group that 565 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: car is. It should have this many monitors, this many kids, 566 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: should have this calibration, IDA should have this and that 567 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: and the other thing. If it doesn't match, you're denied 568 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: a certificate of compliance, and so you can't get your 569 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: car registered. Now, the guy that puts in a PCM 570 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't fit that vehicle maybe it's a Sierra, and 571 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: goes into a Tahoe and he takes a donor PCM 572 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: puts it in the car. Now it won't support the 573 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: software that is supposed to go into It doesn't have 574 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: the right amount of monitors or any of a number 575 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: of other things. Um but cal I D and all 576 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the things. This thing is identifying as 577 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: a Yukon when it is in fact a Sierra. This 578 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: car does not pass small. So for a technician, how 579 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: are you going to know this? You can go to 580 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: the summary table as you can go after and you 581 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: rather dig it all out, or you can have a 582 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: us IBS call log in, or we also have rapid 583 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: Remote assisted Programming, and we also have eight S and 584 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: we also have scan safe and drive safe We're covering 585 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: all areas of whether it's UH diagnostics on anything you 586 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: need on the car. Opus could fix that mismatch software 587 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: problem absolutely. We can identify what the PCM number should 588 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: be that will support the software, so you can get 589 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: that in it, and then we can put the factory 590 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: software right in. And there are a few acceptions. I'm 591 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: not gonna say it's gonna, you know, blanket fix everything 592 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: that you've got. You're gonna have some car that comes 593 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: in there that isn't gonna make it. But but there 594 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: of the odds are you can fix it. Steven, I 595 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: gotta leave it there. Where can the listeners get more 596 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: information real quick? Give the website one time, brother Opus 597 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: IBS is doing the Opus iv S Intelligent Vehicle Support 598 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: UM or give her on a call and get you 599 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: my phone number. You don't want to do that, You'll 600 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: be talking to everybody. Stephen will catch up during the week. 601 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking the time. I'll talk to you again 602 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: real soon. You'd be well privileged. Thank you for having me. 603 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: You're very welcome anytime. Brother. I'm ron in the car 604 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: doctor zero zero. I'll be back right after this boy. 605 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: Can Stephen Etheridge talk Ronny the car doctor. Welcome back. 606 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: Can Stephen Etheridge talk or what I mean? That guy 607 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: is a fountain of information. It's just uh and and 608 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: and and keep in mind, Opus is cutting edge right there. 609 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: They're the tip of the sword. And it's something technicians 610 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: need now and they're going to need for the future. 611 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: And it's I love what Stephen said. And we have 612 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: these conversations all the time, he and I with regards 613 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: to You've got to bring out the biggest diagnostic gun 614 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: right away because I think you have to get into 615 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: the habit of using it, because it helps you build 616 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: a better diagnostic routine as a technician. It's just it's 617 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: just really that important. So um, we'll see where this goes. 618 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 1: You know what. It's we need everything we can possibly 619 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: get our hands on to fix cars. And I thought 620 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: it was timely that we spoke to Matteline prior to 621 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: that interview where she said the dealer couldn't find anything 622 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: wrong with the vehicle. I know it, Steven knew it. 623 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: There are things in the computer. There's bits and pieces 624 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: of information in the computer that let you, you know, 625 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: find what you're looking for. You just can't go first layer. 626 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: You gotta kind of burrow down. It's in there. You've 627 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: just got to get to that information. It's just it's 628 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: just really that important. So just a good timely interview 629 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: and a good timely call prior to that. So I 630 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: thought it was a great segue. UM. I enjoyed myself. 631 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: I want to say thank you everybody for being here 632 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: today and until the next time that we get together. 633 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: As always, I want you to remember I'm modern any 634 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: of the car doctor, reminding you, um, this time, each time, 635 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: every time, for a great time. The mechanics aren't expensive, 636 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you