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Speaker 1: Tell me about the state of Florida and football in

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Speaker 1: the state of Florida. Why because it was a time

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Speaker 1: where the state of Flooda dominated college football dominated.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's Florida State.

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Speaker 1: For yes, Florida State, but that ain't we don't have

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Speaker 1: that no more take for the kids to stay home.

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Speaker 1: We used to have the kids staying home. That's what

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Speaker 1: I was about to say. It's right now, there's so

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Speaker 1: many opportunities other places. You gotta remember, like.

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Speaker 3: If you went to Florida State Florida or Florida State Florida,

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Speaker 3: Florida State, Miami, you didn't play as a freshman. You

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Speaker 3: you were actually sitting behind yeah pro All America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I remember at one point we had Corey Simon who

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Speaker 3: wasn't a starter, but he was All American. So like

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Speaker 3: and coach Bowlence used to tell us, don't get hurt.

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Speaker 3: That was that was legit. Like you got to remember,

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Speaker 3: like everybody at every position was either a five star,

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Speaker 3: four star. So you're talking about coming in as being

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Speaker 3: the man. Everybody else was the man team, So you

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Speaker 3: had to wait your turn. You gotta Charlie Ward. Charlie

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Speaker 3: Ward played as a junior, you know, what he did

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Speaker 3: his first two years punted.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't even know that. No, look at Charlie,

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Speaker 2: Charlie Ward. Ain't nobody know that? You heard? O? Geez man?

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Speaker 1: Well, Charlie know that his first two years, I thought

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Speaker 1: I knew everything.

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Speaker 2: Brood Puddy do everything.

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Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying, like at that time, going

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Speaker 3: to Florida State, Miami, Florida, you gotta wait your turn

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Speaker 3: like it wasn't. It wasn't. I'm going in here and

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Speaker 3: I'm playing as a truth. Dang no, because you got

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Speaker 3: an All American in front, you got three All Americans

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Speaker 3: in front of you.

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Speaker 2: Did your family have any influence on where you went? Nah?

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Speaker 2: It was all up to your pop.

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Speaker 3: It was up to me. My dad went to Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 3: I got recruited at Georgia Tech to play quarterback. My

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Speaker 3: mom Miami and Hurricane fan. Yeah, and she was like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I would love for you to go to Miami,

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Speaker 3: but it's your decision. And actually I had the the

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Speaker 3: best opportunity to start at Miami early. So when I

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Speaker 3: was at when I when I was recruited at Miami,

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Speaker 3: they told me if if I committed, they wouldn't recruit

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Speaker 3: any more quarterbacks, and then they had as Randy Shannon. Nah,

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Speaker 3: it was uh, what's the guy named? He ended up

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Speaker 3: coaching at Cleveland too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You can't even get over this. Keep you saying

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Speaker 2: recruiting is a quarterback to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But so the quarterback at Miami at the time,

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Speaker 3: he was playing baseball and he wasn't He wasn't there

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Speaker 3: in the spring. He would go play professional baseball.

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Speaker 1: So they wanted me to graduate early in January and

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Speaker 1: come compete for the starting job in the spring because

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Speaker 1: the starting quarterback wasn't there. Kenny Kelly. Kenny Kelly, Okay

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Speaker 1: went to Tampa Cathley. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he played professional baseball. So they was like, you,

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Speaker 3: you have a real opportunity to come and compete right away.

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Speaker 3: You got all your credits, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: The only thing you got to do just you know,

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Speaker 3: finish up what you gotta do. Come in January and

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Speaker 3: I thought about it. But for me, Miami was too

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Speaker 3: close to home. Like I wanted to get away from

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Speaker 3: home a little bit, you know what I'm saying, not

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Speaker 3: too far, but get away from home.

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Speaker 2: And I get it.

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Speaker 3: Miami was right up the road. So that's that's probably

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Speaker 3: the reason why I didn't go to Miami.

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Speaker 2: So you went to three visits or more. I stayed

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Speaker 3: So I was I actually started getting recruited by Ohio.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State was the first first school to recruit me.

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Speaker 3: My after my freshman year, going into my sophomore year,

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Speaker 3: I started getting letters from Ohio State, and then I

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Speaker 3: talk about your visit to Florida. What Mike want to

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Speaker 3: bring that up? So you know, me and me and

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Speaker 3: Kuan go way back.

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Speaker 1: We go way back. We actually work out at the

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Speaker 1: same gym. Now you welcome to join us.

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Speaker 2: If you.

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Speaker 1: Put them beers down and show up, we get it work.

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Speaker 1: So when you took your visit to Florida, just go

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Speaker 2: Through the story.

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Speaker 1: Mike might want to tell people that I'm the reason

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Speaker 3: But the reason I didn't come to Florida is because Spurrier,

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Speaker 3: Like I just didn't trust Spurrier. And I remember on

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Speaker 3: my visit being in his office and like, dude, could

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Speaker 3: not look me in my eye. And the whole time

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Speaker 3: I'm in his office, he has a putter he try

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Speaker 3: he was like, they say I wouldn't play a black quarterback. Oh, Steve, damn,

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Speaker 3: they don't know I had a black quarterback at Dude.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you know what. Steve never looked at it,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, off the hook man. Listen.

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Speaker 1: They go to a party football players. I'm at a

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Speaker 1: party with basketball players. Now. One of my teammates got

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Speaker 1: rest is soul Major Parker. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: His girlfriend at the time was at the football party.

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Speaker 1: She's getting He's at the football party. Obviously he's being

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Speaker 2: She said. In one of the football dudes, Chi, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was h. D Jack.

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Speaker 3: Sara Jackson played in the league to Djack played at Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I actually played against d Jack and so they both

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Speaker 3: went to Temp Tampa Catholic D Jack and Kenny Kelly.

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Speaker 3: I played against them my sophomore year in high school.

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Speaker 3: They were seniors, and I think Kenny Kelly had no

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Speaker 3: d Jack had just broke the national record like for receiving,

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Speaker 3: and then Kenny Kelly was like the top quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I know. DJ was nice. He brought the record.

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Speaker 3: So I played against them my my my sophomore year.

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Speaker 2: So when I go to.

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Speaker 3: Florida on my visit, yeah, so they were Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: like dudes playing video games and you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: everybody over to the crib chilling. So Djack sitting down,

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Speaker 3: ended up smacking the chick. So we didn't know that

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Speaker 3: it was Major's girl who he smacked, so I guess

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Speaker 3: she ended up leaving her and the homegirls they ended

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Speaker 2: A little bit later we go out.

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Speaker 3: So we go to this club and like the basketball

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Speaker 3: team's already acted at the spot and yeah, so then

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Speaker 3: and we were cruising like, man, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Like the.

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Speaker 3: So they cleared the whole club out. We outside just chilling,

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Speaker 3: like man, what just happened?

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Speaker 1: Like so, man, listen, she calls Major crying hysterically, you know,

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Speaker 1: automatically what your woman called hysterically? You you you already

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Speaker 1: we get to the club that night and I already

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Speaker 1: know what time it is. It's one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: of them we ain't got, but twelve of us we got.

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Speaker 1: We got to be efficient. So they approached us and

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Speaker 1: they going back and forth. So I'm standing there with

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Speaker 1: got a ken yalla kN y'alla walker, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, shout out, nyall, ain't no more beef.

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Speaker 2: That's over with kids kids.

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Speaker 1: So you feel like with k Yalla man, so they

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Speaker 1: then me and kN y'alla start having some words. But

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Speaker 1: mathfa math, And now I ain't going to squirt for much,

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Speaker 1: but I know how to count, so I say, I say,

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Speaker 1: because if they jump on us first, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: of people did. It's on them, But yeah, I threw

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Speaker 2: Throw the first. Didn't call the muscle in who is

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Speaker 2: at the gym? Shoot shoot.

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Speaker 1: Listen, it's funny that it's funny that you said that

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Speaker 1: because theeve Spurrier called Billy Donovas. I don't care what

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Speaker 1: I started to say, Spray, I whooped your ass too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we got it out of it.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Spray, let you off the hook because

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Speaker 4: I'd love to see him in the Gator uniform.

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Speaker 2: I would have loved to see him I get a

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that that was gonna you know, well,

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Speaker 1: the no the man was putting he ain't.

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Speaker 2: Never recruited a black quarterback, That's what. Yeah, ain't. Nobody

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Speaker 2: asked you to go down that glory road home asked you.

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Speaker 2: That's Steve, that's where you blew it at.

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Speaker 1: Listen, anytime you invite a black person over and say,

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Speaker 1: means that lets us know right there you ain't used

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Speaker 1: blew it at. It had nothing to do with me

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Speaker 1: at all. It was up when you said that. You

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Speaker 1: never told me that when you invited me to your

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Speaker 1: house in South Dakota. Yeah, you know, I had another

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Speaker 1: black guy here we could go, so you ain't the

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Speaker 1: only one.

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Speaker 2: I would have.

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Speaker 1: Never you again, that would have been the beginning and

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Speaker 1: the end of me and your relationship, and I'd have

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Speaker 1: never been back to South Dakota. That's crazy as hell

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Speaker 1: to say something like that. That's one of those things

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Speaker 1: where people don't know that's kind of rude.

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Speaker 2: Tell him that this rude. That was rude last week.

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Speaker 1: I had another black guy over last week, killer, So

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Speaker 1: you ain't the first one. Just know, I like black

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Speaker 1: people got here. You can't say that. You can't say

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Speaker 1: that a good thing that happened back in like the

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Speaker 1: two thousand early because if you say that right now today,

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Speaker 1: your ass is cancel your asses, council.

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Speaker 2: You can't say that, Yeah, man, this man so now

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Speaker 2: you get.

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Speaker 1: Drafted second round, that had a chip on your shoulder

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Speaker 1: because I know me undrafted. I still got a chip today.

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Speaker 2: Charles from Michigan State. Yeah, receiver, so.

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Speaker 3: That's right, stand on, you know, no disrespect to him

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