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Speaker 1: Four days until the super Bowl, one day until NFL

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Speaker 1: honors Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Zach Gershman joins me,

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Speaker 1: we will get to Sunday's big game first, though a

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Speaker 1: handful of Cardinals players may be recognized on Thursday, and

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Speaker 1: deservedly so in our opinion. Also roster moves that have

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Speaker 1: our attention and why squirrels have Ze's attention. It's Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode seven six, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Booda Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 3: He's a ten half of five. He's it again? So

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Speaker 3: more Harry Magic.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig Grioloud.

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Speaker 1: So. I don't know if you've heard, Zach, but the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl is in Las Vegas and it's happening on

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Speaker 1: Sunday this entire week. It's major news. You do know

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Speaker 1: that the super Bowl is in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: I like the rock that I live under, So I

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Speaker 3: don't know. No, of course I know.

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Speaker 1: Now are you familiar speaking of Las Vegas of the

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Speaker 1: social media sites Las Vegas locally?

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Speaker 3: I've seen them popping up on my social media feet

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Speaker 3: I have to and I.

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Speaker 1: Kind of went a little there's a reason, ber Gang.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know where you're going with that.

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Speaker 1: So this is a social media site, okay, Zach More

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Speaker 1: than three hundred and sixty thousand followers the bio interesting, strange,

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Speaker 1: and useful stuff from the Vegas Valley. Will Hernandez follows

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas locally. Jj Watt recently reposted something that Las

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Speaker 1: at five Why are you laughing?

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Speaker 3: Because I know exactly where this is going.

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Speaker 1: At five to ten pm on Monday, February fifth, Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas locally posted the following. An NFL player in town

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl was attacked by coyote last night

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Speaker 1: at Lake Las Vegas. According to a source, JJ Watt

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Speaker 1: found it interesting enough to repost. I found it interesting

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Speaker 1: because I know your history with quote unquote wild animals

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Speaker 1: that like to attack individuals like yourself.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for bringing this one up. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: I was. Now that we have and now we have

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Speaker 3: just to bring the audience into our facility a little

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Speaker 3: painting the picture a little bit. So we have basically

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Speaker 3: a row of desk and it's Darren's desk, my day,

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Speaker 3: Craig's desk, Paul's desk, and then on the other side

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Speaker 3: of that if Emma Kramer from our social media team,

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Speaker 3: one of the interns out there, Zach Samuel, and then

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Speaker 3: it's Kayln Epps, our team photographer, Danny Sirek. So we

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Speaker 3: talk a lot work, eh, it depends on the day,

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Speaker 3: but we talk a lot, and we've all gone to

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Speaker 3: know each other a lot more than I think we

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Speaker 3: ever would have thought. And me being me, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: our covered two listeners have kind of become accustomed to this.

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Speaker 3: I like to talk about a lot of different scenarios

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Speaker 3: that go on in my life, and in this case,

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Speaker 3: I brought up about how I believe squirrels are like

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Speaker 3: Satan in an animal form, because I was attacked by

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Speaker 3: junior year of college at Penn State. These squirrels viciously

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Speaker 3: But the thing is is like I just just to

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Speaker 3: Craig Real. So once you brought up Las Vegas locally,

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Speaker 3: it came back to me. Now this is per Zach Gershman.

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Speaker 3: There's no source. I am the source. The source is me,

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Speaker 1: Cannot wait for the reaction to this particular Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: It's like, how am I supposed to bring Zach's fear

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Speaker 1: And what doesn't matter because we got this story out

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Speaker 1: now publicly that Zach Gershman is not a fan of

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Speaker 3: I also told my parents this. We were walking around

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Speaker 1: Okay, see, I got that story out of young Zach.

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Speaker 1: Here on Cardinals cover two presented by Hyundai, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. By the way, since Will Hernandez

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Speaker 1: follows this social media site Las Vegas locally, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: As long as he was not the player that was

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Speaker 1: That, by the way, not the biggest news of the week.

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Speaker 1: So I'm rooting for the Chiefs. I don't believe in

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Speaker 1: But I will say ask you this, Zach, as far

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm in the same boat as you. I don't

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Speaker 3: In regardless, you lost to the Kansas City Chiefs in

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Speaker 1: And I do think this is going to be an

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Speaker 3: To go for the eleven receptions on eleven targets in

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, no hitting this year's Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Maybe what we'll tip things in James's favor is the

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Speaker 1: fact that the Cardinals did win that game on the

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Speaker 1: road in Pittsburgh. Were one hundred rushing yards in that

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Speaker 1: game plus two touchdowns, So it would be a nice

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Speaker 1: cherry on top to get that Angry Run of the

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Speaker 1: Year scepter based off a run that again was negated

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Speaker 1: by a holding penalty.

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Speaker 3: If for Kyle Brand, if he wants to talk about emotion,

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Speaker 3: think about the emotion of James Connor going back to Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 3: making his return to the playing against the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 3: making his returns to Akroscher Stadium, even though in my

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Speaker 3: mind it's going to forever be Hinz Field, but for

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Speaker 3: him to make his return, if you want to talk

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Speaker 3: about angry, the emotion, the power, there was definitely something

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Speaker 3: extra in that stiff.

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Speaker 1: And he admitted talking about James Connor that it was

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Speaker 1: a bigger deal even though he wouldn't go there during

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Speaker 1: the week, but postgame after a successful individual performance more

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Speaker 1: better said, a successful day for the Cardinals despite a

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Speaker 1: couple of weather delays, So going in there playing well

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Speaker 1: getting a w that meant a lot. Jonathan Gannon brought

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Speaker 1: it up as well, like, yeah, everyone wanted to win

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Speaker 1: for Connor, even though it's not an individual game. It's

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Speaker 1: a team game. But sometimes certain opponents, certain weeks, certain games,

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit extra. Gannon going back to Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: I think everyone knew, even though he didn't want to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. No different than Connor going to Philadelphia exactly.

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh, Yeah, exactly. It's all in the same state anyway.

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Speaker 3: But that's true the way that Jonathan Gannon. But postgame,

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Speaker 3: JG was like, the game in Philly didn't mean any extra,

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Speaker 3: just another game we all know meant a little bit extra.

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Speaker 3: And the players said it afterwards, and JG said that

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Speaker 3: the players, when you love somebody in that locker room,

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Speaker 3: you want to play, you know, tougher for them. You

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Speaker 3: want to play it to the best of your ability

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Speaker 3: for them. And I think when they went back to

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh they did that. When Kyler Murray made his return

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Speaker 3: against the Atlanta Falcons, they wanted to do that for

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Speaker 3: k One, knowing how hard and how much he put

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Speaker 3: into his rehab in his recovery for him to ultimately

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Speaker 3: make it onto the field this past season, and to

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Speaker 3: make it in the way that he still did have

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Speaker 3: eight games. They saw it in the locker room. They

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Speaker 3: see the type of work and the type of people

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Speaker 3: that we don't get to see behind closed doors. They

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Speaker 3: have the opportunity to do that, so it always means

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Speaker 3: a little bit more again.

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Speaker 1: NFL Honors Thursday, February eighth, CBS, NFL Network. You can

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Speaker 1: stream it live on Paramount Plus, NFL Plus. Buddha Baker,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Ledbetter, James Connor just some of the Cardinals players

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Speaker 1: that we believe all three will be in attendance, but

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Speaker 1: at least recognized amongst the nominees for a couple of

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Speaker 1: different awards that the league hands out each and every year.

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Speaker 1: Talk about that, James Connor play Plays of the Year.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been working all off season. I want

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Speaker 1: into the offseason, but offense, defense and Special Teams Plays

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Speaker 1: of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely have a coming out later on this week,

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Speaker 3: I believe on Thursday. So get ready for you know,

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Speaker 3: get a good night's sleep because tomorrow we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: the Special Teams Play at the Year. But if you

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Speaker 3: listen to our cover two segment from a few weeks

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Speaker 3: ago where we talked about the Cardinals Awards from our

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Speaker 3: staff or at azcardinals dot com and how we voted

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Speaker 3: one of the top plays, it didn't win the top play.

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Speaker 3: The top play was James Connor's one handed touchdown reception.

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Speaker 3: The second one, which I'm gonna just tease so you

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Speaker 3: could go back and listen to it, is ultimately the

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Speaker 3: top play for the Special Teams play of the year.

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Speaker 3: So ultimately there were It's tough. You don't always have

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Speaker 3: the big time of splash plays when you're talking about

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Speaker 3: special teams. But when there's a fake, when there's a

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Speaker 3: game winner and electric punt return like we were able

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Speaker 3: to see a few different times from Greg Dortch to

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Speaker 3: this past season, you have the opportunity to space it

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Speaker 3: out a little bit. So we were able to come

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Speaker 3: up with top ten plays and some really good ones

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Speaker 3: for Special Teams.

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Speaker 1: I believe I know what the number one option is on.

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Speaker 3: SPEC should be recent memory for a lot of fans.

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Speaker 1: And it's a play much like the stiff arm of

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Speaker 1: James Connor. The play did happen. It counts for points,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't count for any yards or catches, receptions

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Speaker 1: or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Are we thinking of the same play?

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Speaker 1: I believe so?

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Speaker 3: Is it the I wanna spoil it because you guys

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Speaker 3: are gonna read it tomorrow. Is the fake touchdown?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what do you mean it was fourth and three?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't account for.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's I was thinking. That's right, because it

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Speaker 1: was a fake field goal. That's right.

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Speaker 3: You were thinking of two point conversion.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of two point conversion. That's right.

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Speaker 3: I'm picking up what you're doing at Yeah. So now

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Speaker 3: we just.

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Speaker 1: Spoiled it for all of us, and that's okay. There's

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Speaker 1: still good content on Azy Cardinals. Yeah, but you don't

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Speaker 1: know what number two is exactly or the rest of

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Speaker 1: the top ten.

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Speaker 3: How about that game?

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Speaker 1: By the way, some other news and notes with the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. They have signed right now as we speak

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Speaker 1: here on this Wednesday edition of Cardinals Cover two presented

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Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. They have

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Speaker 1: made a handful of moves as far as adding players

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Speaker 1: to future contracts, which means that it doesn't become official

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Speaker 1: into the new league year hits, which is in the

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Speaker 1: middle of March. But fourteen players, and you and I

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Speaker 1: were talking about this earlier in the week that of

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Speaker 1: these fourteen players, five of them are wide receivers, the

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Speaker 1: latest being your guy jan Dan Jessenna, who played four

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Speaker 1: games with the Cardinals earlier in the season. Season ends,

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Speaker 1: he gets signed to the Ravens practice squad, actually plays

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Speaker 1: in a couple of playoff games, mainly on special teams,

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Speaker 1: and then that practice squad contract expired and the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: pick him up to join Daniel Arrius, Jeff Smith, and

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Speaker 1: Andre but Shelley, the four I used to say, the

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Speaker 1: five wide receivers that this team has signed so far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely a In a lot of cases, these

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Speaker 3: are guys that you hope or expect to be on

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Speaker 3: your practice squad in the next coming year, or you

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Speaker 3: just really want throughout training camp to see if they're

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Speaker 3: able to solidify themselves as one of the best fifty

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Speaker 3: three out there. But there's definitely a need when it

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Speaker 3: comes to wide receivers, and throughout the entire offseason and

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Speaker 3: until we get to April and as we go through

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Speaker 3: free out or throughout free agency, we're gonna be talking

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Speaker 3: about that wide receiver room and seeing what the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: and who the Cardinals bring to Tempe to join the

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Speaker 3: to join the Bird Gang. So but when it comes

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Speaker 3: to the future squad players or the future contract rather Yeah,

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Speaker 3: these are guys that you had some familiarity with. Dan

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Speaker 3: Shasena did a great job coming in midway throughout the season,

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Speaker 3: and they elevated him for a handful games, assigned him

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Speaker 3: to the active roster for one and he specialized mostly

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Speaker 3: in special teams in that gunner role, especially when Price

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Speaker 3: was out. That's really the person that you kind of

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Speaker 3: had slide in in order to make some plays. And

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Speaker 3: same with Kaden Davis. They did the same thing with him.

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Speaker 3: Another wide receiver out there, and then the other few

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Speaker 3: players that you mentioned. You just need bodies out there,

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Speaker 3: and these are players that are familiar with the scheme.

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Speaker 3: They're familiar with what Jonathan Anden and Drew Petsing are

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Speaker 3: looking for in their wide receivers. So it'll be nice

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Speaker 3: to welcome them back once OTAs and training Campigins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, failed to mention Caden Davis's name, but again, five

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Speaker 1: of the fourteen players signed to future contracts are wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Because right now going into next season, you have Ron

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Speaker 1: Dell Moore, Michael Wilson, and Zach Paskell. Greg Dertsch is

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Speaker 1: an exclusive rights free agent. He'll be back if the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals want him back, but the reason not only the

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Speaker 1: number of wide receivers, because of the fourteen there are

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Speaker 1: three offensive lineman, three corners, a running back, tight end,

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Speaker 1: and safety. But you start looking at the type of

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Speaker 1: wide receiver that this team is signing, and they do

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Speaker 1: seem to have a type. All of these wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: all five except four but Shelley, are taller than six

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Speaker 1: foot tall. And I do think what we've seen based

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Speaker 1: off a year ago in the offseason, wide receivers that

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Speaker 1: were brought in or drafted all taller wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you bring in the guy like Michael Wilson

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Speaker 3: and Zach Pascal, two wide receivers that are above six

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Speaker 3: feet tall, Yes, Zach Pascal did not get the offensive

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Speaker 3: production that you kind of hope for once you were

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Speaker 3: able to bring him in. But Michael Wilson when he

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Speaker 3: was healthy, and there wasn't that stretch of time where

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Speaker 3: people were panicking about the wide receivers not getting any

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Speaker 3: touches from Kyler Murray, you do recognize, and I think

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Speaker 3: that it's good that we could kind of get the

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Speaker 3: blueprint of what Drew Petsing and Johnathangan to expect for

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Speaker 3: this offense out there Drew Terrell with their wide receivers coach,

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Speaker 3: because you recognize that you do need a little bigger bodies.

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Speaker 3: You have a Greg Dortch and Rondel Moore on a

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Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown if they do decide to bring him back

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Speaker 3: throughout free agency, if they're able to come to a deal.

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Speaker 3: These are wide receivers that are not six feet tall,

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Speaker 3: but they have the speed. You got to be able

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Speaker 3: to balance the speed with the size.

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Speaker 1: And then you look at the wide receivers that potentially

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals might drafts come April sixty four, six three,

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Speaker 1: six y two. The prospects, the top line prospects that

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Speaker 1: are all six foot and I think that's what you're

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Speaker 1: seeing because the wide receiver has an advantage on this

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Speaker 1: smaller defensive back typically, and this is a type that

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Speaker 1: I believe within this offense that the Cardinals are looking for. Plus,

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Speaker 1: they want wide receivers who will help in the run game,

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Speaker 1: meaning that are willing to block, not afraid of the contact,

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Speaker 1: not afraid that even though the ball might not be

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Speaker 1: headed their direction that particular play, they're still getting their

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Speaker 1: hands dirty helping out. Whether that's James Connor or someone else.

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Speaker 3: It's a team above you mindset that John again consistently preaches,

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Speaker 3: and if you're able to have guys come in and

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Speaker 3: are willing to get get dirty, get into the blocks

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Speaker 3: a little bit, try to create some lanes and whatever

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Speaker 3: it might be. Especially if let's say it's a let's

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Speaker 3: say it's a slant route and you want to have

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Speaker 3: a wide receiver like a Greg Dortch that has the speed,

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Speaker 3: you need a big body on the outside that's a

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Speaker 3: little bit further downfield that's able to block and not

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Speaker 3: get called with a holding penalty or has no clue

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Speaker 3: what they're doing. So these bigger bodies and the way

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00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: that the game has been played, Yes, it's an offensive

638
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: minded league. It's what it's really become. And you need

639
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: to have wide receivers that aren't just pass catchers. They

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Speaker 3: aren't just able to run good routes. They aren't just

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Speaker 3: good route runners, but instead they also have that blocking

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Speaker 3: element to them.

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Speaker 1: And again this is nothing against a smaller wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: There's a place for Rondell Moore, for a Greg dorts

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Speaker 1: you just might not need all of them, like in

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Speaker 1: previous seasons with the Arizona Cardinals, where it was basically

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Speaker 1: an under six foot wide receiver room. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's advantageous to an offense. It's not where this league

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Speaker 1: is headed. You need the speed, but you also need

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Speaker 1: that wide receiver that can separate the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: and that's where maybe a smaller, speedier wide receiver. But again,

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Speaker 1: those fifty to fifty balls, can you out jump a

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Speaker 1: defensive back fade pattern in the end zone, raise your

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Speaker 1: hands up, stretch out those arms and grab that football

655
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Speaker 1: out of the year. Don't wait for it to come

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Speaker 1: to you. And I do think the more successful wide

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Speaker 1: receivers historically have been your taller wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: And when that's why you were able to kind of

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Speaker 3: see Train McBride start to emerge a little bit because

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Speaker 3: he was able to jump up and make some of

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Speaker 3: those leaping grabs over the smaller defenders because he was

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Speaker 3: one of the bigger bodies on that Cardinals offense. And

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Speaker 3: I think once you could kind of see the blueprint

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Speaker 3: for trade McBride working, it's like, all right, let's start

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Speaker 3: giving Michael Wilson a more of a shot at these

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Speaker 3: fifty to fifty balls. Yes, it's not like manti Asen

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Speaker 3: for it could have come in and created an entire

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Speaker 3: fifty three man rode. Once he came in in January,

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Speaker 3: that was impossible. So you do still have the effects

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Speaker 3: of the previous regime in the previous seasons when the

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00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: guys in the locker room and especially in that wide

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00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: receiver room, we're not above six feet tall, but there

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Speaker 3: is a place for them, and whether that is Ron

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00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: Dell Moore kind of having that scatback role, being able

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Speaker 3: to go into the backfield and utilize him in that

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Speaker 3: way as those end of rounds, whatever it might be,

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Speaker 3: there is an opportunity for them. Greg Dorch kind of

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00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: put that to rest if anybody had any question about it.

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Speaker 3: His ability to go up and make a big time

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00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: played despite his size, that was key, and his ability

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Speaker 3: to go across the middle in those crossing routes. That

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Speaker 3: was another way where he was able to utilize the speed.

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Speaker 1: And I believe doors will be back because if nothing else,

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Speaker 1: when he does playoffense, he makes plays. It's just the

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Speaker 1: opportunities does he get them. But what he showed in

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Speaker 1: special teams, the kickoff returns, the punt returns, a career

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Speaker 1: year for him on those fronts, and I do think

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Speaker 1: it's a position that again, if you're active on game day.

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Speaker 1: JG has said, we will find a role. You're not

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Speaker 1: just not gonna be in uniform waiting for someone to

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Speaker 1: get hurt or your name to be called. There is

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Speaker 1: going to be a role for everyone that has a jersey,

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Speaker 1: and for Greg Dortch, it's special teams and also offense

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Speaker 1: when called upon.

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Speaker 3: In the coming days, once we do upload the top

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Speaker 3: ten special teams plays of the year, Greg Dortch will

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Speaker 3: have his name in maybe once or twice or maybe

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Speaker 3: even a few more times. He made those type he

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Speaker 3: made that type of impact. He was there was he

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Speaker 3: was always very consistent back there and no matter what,

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Speaker 3: especially with his side. Going back to that a little bit,

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00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: he was small and he'd get you know, he'd get

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Speaker 3: hit quite a bit, and he'd always bounce right back up.

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Speaker 3: And you've got to have a guy that loves to

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Speaker 3: get hit and loves to have that football mindset of

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Speaker 3: I just got taken down. I'm not gonna show any

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Speaker 3: signs of weakness. I'm gonna get right back up and

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it again. And there's not gonna be

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Speaker 3: anybody that's gonna hurt me. Or stop me, and Greg

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Speaker 3: Dortch was able to do that. And when in the

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Speaker 3: beginning half of the season we didn't really see Greg

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Speaker 3: Dortch on the offensive side of the ball. As the

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Speaker 3: season went on, and who are trying to find any solution?

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Speaker 3: What can we do in order for the wide receivers

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Speaker 3: to make an impact? Greg Dortsch was the answer.

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Speaker 1: Special Teams Plays of the Year on Azycardinals dot Com.

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Speaker 1: And also you can go back and look at the

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Speaker 1: offense and defensive plays of the Year of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: And then, by the way, do you have a passport?

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Speaker 1: As I completely go left hand turn on you here

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Speaker 1: on Cardinals cover too, do you have a passport?

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Speaker 3: Are you taking me to Europe?

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying the idea you might want to make

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Speaker 1: sure your passport is up to date.

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Speaker 3: My passport is up to date.

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Speaker 1: Brazil is off the table, but London and Germany are

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00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: still options. Burd Gang, what are you talking about, Craig Well,

728
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Speaker 1: Cardinals potentially could be headed overseas in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: There are teams that the Cardinals right now will be

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Speaker 1: the road opponent for the Vikings, who are having a

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Speaker 1: home game in London. And the Panthers, who have a

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Speaker 1: home game scheduled in Germany. There are five international games,

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Speaker 1: three in London, one in Germany, plus the one in Brazil.

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Speaker 1: There was a potential if the Dolphins were the home team,

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Speaker 1: then the Cardinals might potentially could be that opponent because

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins are on the schedule for the Cardinals in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. But there is a chance of some

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Speaker 1: international travel for the Arizona Cardinals this season.

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Speaker 3: The Cardinals are no strangers to getting out of these

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Speaker 3: fifty states that we like to call the United States

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Speaker 3: of America, whether it was in Mexico last year or

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Speaker 3: in other games that they played in London, it's a possibility,

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Speaker 3: and it definitely would be definitely would be a neat

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Speaker 3: one And fortunately, in my opinion, for some of these games,

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00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 3: when you're on the road and you're able to take

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Speaker 3: out a Minnesota crowd or whatever it might be, you're

747
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 3: able to take the crowd aspect out of it. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of going to be one of those fifty to

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Speaker 3: fifty right down the middle or just people that love

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Speaker 3: the game of football. And when you're able to do that,

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00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: that's an element of the game that you don't necessarily,

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00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to use the term practice for because

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00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: you're always practicing for it in case the silent count

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00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: or whatever it might be. But you get to experience

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00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: a different country and also expose the game of football

756
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: to an entirely new client tele out there that could

757
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: truly fall in love with the game. And Roger Goodell

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Speaker 3: throughout the week during Super Bowl media availability, has emphasized

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Speaker 3: the importance and how they really do what to expand

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Speaker 3: the game of football globally, and we've seen that through

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00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 3: NFL might cause my cleats how some of the players

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Speaker 3: were honoring, you know, NFL Africa or whatever it might be.

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Speaker 3: They they're trying to expand the game globally and if

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals are able to take part in that, whether

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Speaker 3: it's in London or Germany, it wasn't going to be

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Speaker 3: in Brazil this year. Who knows in the future how

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Speaker 3: that game works. But the game is going to be

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Speaker 3: going global before we know it.

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Speaker 1: And that's the next frontier, if you will, because the

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Speaker 1: NFL is gaining popularity within the US, but there is

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Speaker 1: somewhat of a limited how big you can be within

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Speaker 1: the United States. But internationally, that's where I think this

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Speaker 1: is headed not just London, but different markets, different continents.

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Speaker 1: I believe. Now with Brazil the Cardinal, the NFL will

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00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: have played a game on five of the seven continents,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: As long as you go to Antarctica, that'd be pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that one.

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Speaker 3: To you a little chilly, Yeah, it's gonna make it unthing.

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Speaker 1: Like that that that might not be in our lifetime,

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Speaker 1: at least my lifetime. You're much younger than I am.

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Speaker 2: Zach.

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Speaker 3: We're going to Antarctica, Craig, I'm putting it down here,

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Speaker 3: Arizona and Antarctica.

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Speaker 1: Home game or road game, it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Matter, honestly, because it considering unless we're in a dome.

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Speaker 3: If we're in a dome, then it's a home game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't see that one happening either.

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Speaker 1: But a kid could dream exactly, and that's what the

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Speaker 1: NFL is all about.

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Speaker 3: When you wish upon.

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00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: A star, that's all you know.

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Speaker 3: If you're in a premium. When when I win the

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00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: super Bowl, they're gonna ask where do I want to go?

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Speaker 3: Or I just want to super Bowl? What are you

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00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: gonna go do next? Maybe I'll belt out the rest

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 1: Done all right before we embarrass Zach Keeney. Further careful,

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Speaker 1: there's a squirrel behind you.

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Speaker 3: We was looked.

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Speaker 2: Don't see.

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Speaker 1: We will put a lid on. This edition of Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hyundai, partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mamahudra,

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Speaker 1: our associate producer Cody Fincher for Zach Kershman. Keep squirrels

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Speaker 1: away from young Zach. I'm Craig real Lou. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two