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Yeah, we only expose who you are, 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: what your music? 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty judgmental. Yeah, that's judgmental music, isn't it. 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 3: It's it's heavy to one side of the aisle. Okay, 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: there you go. Now it's all oh good, not judging you, 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: just just you know. 26 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: How's everybody doing. 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: How was your week? Here? 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: Everybody all good, good, We're all good here good. Combine 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: came and went and h and that'll do it for 30 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: the NFL combine, although apparently we've got a little bit 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: of a debate going on. 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: What's a little bit of. 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: A Carneal Tate, the wide receiver for Ohio State. That's 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: one of the headlines coming out of the combine. So 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Carnell Tate finished within the four point four five four 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: point four seven range for his forty according to a 37 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: batch of NFL executives and gms. According to Schefter, but 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: that differed from the official time of four to five two. 39 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to figure out where things. 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: That's always been a thing, though. 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: Got sideways. Schefter posted on Sunday morning quote Ohio state 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: wide receiver Carnel Tate, a potential top ten pick, was 43 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: timed by several NFL executives and GMS on Saturday with 44 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: a forty time in the range of four point four 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: to five four point four to seven, but the official 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: time is four point five to two. Now, well, hold on, hold. 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: On, So did Schefter do this for any other players 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: at the combine who ran. 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: The forty I don't recall, and there was a lot 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: that ran it. 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, So let me ask you this. 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: So are we actually saying Brenan Thompson who ran a 53 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 4: four to two six the wide receiver out of Mississippi date? 54 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: Does this mean that his was probably faster than that? 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: Is that what we're saying? Like, how should we look 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: at the rest of the forty yard dash times? If 57 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: Adam Schefter is opening up Pandora's box, that apparently the 58 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: official times aren't all that accurate since some of the 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: teams do. 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: Their own, or most of the teams do their own. 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: There you go, and yet their times were like half 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: a second faster. 63 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: You'll get like two or three different times, but the 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: official time is generally always the slowest of all the 65 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: times that are recorded. 66 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 4: I know you think we're being serious, LeVar, but we 67 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: are not. So this segment is more about Adam Schefter 68 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: than anything else. 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I picked up on the fact 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: that you said he didn't do it with anyone else, 71 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: So okay, well go ahead, how about it. 72 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: That's kind of my general point is as I look 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: at what's all transpired in the past few months, and 74 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: people need to understand this. You know, Disney bought into 75 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: the ownership of the NFL, all right, their media properties. 76 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: They're working hand in hand in some ways. 77 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: I would say, you know, the Super Bowl, since it 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: was NBC's it wasn't really their opportunity to I guess, 79 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: shine or potentially reveal what that relationship looks like. But 80 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: now we have one of the first instances where Adam 81 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: Scheffer doing something, which, mind you, I don't recall him 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 4: really doing before either, Like I know he's always reported 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 4: on different things that have come up with players, But 84 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: to take a stance where you're essentially tweating about only 85 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: one player specifically who, And again I don't want to 86 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: get into in the weeds and all this because you know, 87 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 4: as far as the forty dash yard dash times go, 88 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 4: I remember, do you guys remember when Tybreek Wohlan ran it, 89 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 4: and he actually ran the fastest at that time, But 90 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: they rolled it back right they took they made the 91 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 4: official time actually slower to like a four to two seven, 92 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 4: four to two eight. And I know the trainer who 93 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 4: is training some of those guys. And by the way, 94 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: Matt Gates at XPE and him and Tony Vallani, they 95 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: have some of the fastest players every single year who 96 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: run in these and so it's part of how they 97 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 4: make their name. And I remember him coming to me 98 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: and I asked him and said, what was the explanation 99 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: for that? 100 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: And He's like, there really wasn't. 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: And they did that with some other players too, where 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 4: the official time actually was, you know, being rolled back 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 4: from what they initially showed. And so maybe that needs 104 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: some sort of explanation. But what I kind of see 105 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: when I when I first saw this was all right, 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 4: he's doing a favor for the agent, but also he's 107 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: doing a favor for the NFL. Because Carnel Tates viewed 108 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: as a top ten pick. The only thing that would 109 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: potentially hold him back would be saying, oh, he's not 110 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: quite explosive or fast enough, which if you watch the 111 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 4: tape and you watch him play, you're not concerned about that. 112 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons why I never put stock 113 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 4: in the combine anyway, but the fact that Schefter would 114 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: do it, it's revealing to this, to the fact that 115 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: there's now this relationship between ESPN and the NFL where 116 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 4: he's gonna be that mouthpiece to try to make things 117 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: seem like, okay, this is you know, we don't want 118 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: to scare guys off from coming here in the future 119 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 4: if they happen to run slow, when really he was 120 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 4: like the only guy who ran slow. It was a 121 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: historical year and guys running fast. So God, are the 122 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 4: days of someone just having a bad start. God are 123 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 4: the days of anyone like performing bad say hey, you 124 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: know what, I'll run better my pro day. No, we're 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: just gonna make excuses or put out tweets like this 126 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: to try to you know, buddy buddy up with the 127 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: agent and make sure that we don't hurt players coming 128 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 4: here in the future. Like that's where this is going now. 129 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: That's unfortunately how the combine is. It's not as much 130 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 4: suspense as it. 131 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: Used to be. I like it. I like I like 132 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: the phoniness, I like the catering to I like it. 133 00:06:54,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: It's it's one big hodgepodge of brand building. I have 134 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: the thought process of go do the combine, don't put 135 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: too much. If I'm a player, I'm not putting too 136 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: much into what my performance is. I'm gonna relax. I'm 137 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: gonna do what I need to do because the work 138 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: has already been done. If you're outside of my interview, 139 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: that's it. Outside of my interview. If you're gonna judge 140 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: what I can do, awfle what I did at the 141 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: combine and not my body of work, then that's a 142 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: decision that you gotta make. And you weren't meant to 143 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: draft me, and I wasn't meant to be drafted by you. 144 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: But what I would be focused in on is making 145 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: sure that I take full advantage of the spotlight in 146 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: the megaphone that is on the NFL Combine. This is 147 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: more of an age and the era of building your brand. 148 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: I mean, we hear name, image and likeness at nauseum. 149 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: For college, it really does mean your name and your 150 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: image and your likeness. So if you're going to the combine, 151 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: go with a plan, have a plan on how you're 152 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: going to maximize your conversations with the media. What you 153 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: want your message to b what you want it to 154 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: be all those different things, because to me, that's what 155 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: this all is about. Brand building for for Adam Schefter, 156 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: like he gets to to get inside information, brand building 157 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 3: for gms or coaches just fall asleep. You get to 158 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: create a different element to how they view you. You know, 159 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: you've you've had that's brand building. You've added to your brand. 160 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what that is. I mean 161 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: sometimes superheroes get tired. There you go. There's always an 162 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: opportunity to maximize on what you do. So right, he 163 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: might not be the coach of the Jets anymore, but 164 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: you know then you have more time what is mattress. 165 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: But the problem though, is that if it's clear that 166 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: one of the insiders or reporters has an agenda or 167 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 2: is being fed like all of a sudden, it's hard 168 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: to take the event seriously if you know that people 169 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: are filtering information out there to try and make results 170 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: different than. 171 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: What Isn't that what insider is supposed to give you 172 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: the information that people on inside are giving. 173 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: It's a time you can you start it and stop it. 174 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: There should be no agenda attached. It is what it is. 175 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: And he's coming out with different times now. 176 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: Because there's always different times there is. 177 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: Every team keeps their own own times. But I would 178 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: also say for them to then come out and not 179 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: why do not give Brent Thompson's hand times then if 180 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: those are probably gonna be closer to the record at 181 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 4: four two one four two to like somewhere in that ballpark, 182 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: because that's how far off we're talking about the official 183 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: time was to some of the reported handtimes that he had, 184 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: why not report that? I mean, that's the issue that 185 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: I have with it is if you're Adam Schefter and 186 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: you're trying to represent ESPN or the NFL and you are, 187 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: let's just call what it is like the go to insider, 188 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 4: you have an obligation to the public too. To me, 189 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 4: this isn't about brand building. This is kind of like 190 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 4: where we are right now with our media, our news media. 191 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to go into the news media 192 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: venture of that, but I think we all would would agree. 193 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it depends on which side they're talking from, 194 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 4: Like everything's manipulated, everything like there can't ever just be hey, 195 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 4: this is what his time was. There's a thought that 196 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: some people had him faster on handtimes and then explain 197 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: the fact that most teams have scouts, have coaches whoever 198 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 4: hand timing them to because they want to have a 199 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 4: database of their own times. And one of the reasons 200 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: they want to have a database of their own times 201 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 4: is because every single year the official timer some of 202 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 4: that stuff could change. And I said to you before, 203 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 4: guys who are in this industry where they basically train 204 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: these guys for six to eight to ten weeks and 205 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 4: turn them into track athletes, they are more in two 206 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: with it than anyone. I mean, they're the ones that 207 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 4: are watching these guys run a preliminary forty and then 208 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: as they train, watching the splits, watching the numbers from then, 209 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: and so. 210 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 3: They know what these guys can hit. 211 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 4: And so when they have a series of guys who 212 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: aren't hitting those numbers even though they've been training for 213 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: the past two months to two and a half months, 214 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 4: they know that there's probably something off with the equipment. 215 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: Because all these guys are highly invested. 216 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: In all this. 217 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 4: But the point is, like schefter has an obligation, at 218 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 4: least in my mind, to be able to provide information 219 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 4: to people in a manner that isn't going to be manipulated. 220 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: And unfortunately, like we as an audience have now grown 221 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: accustomed to all these agents feeding these insiders with whatever 222 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: they want to say. I mean, how many times do 223 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: we say a tweet that was like had like a 224 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 4: copy and paste you know, section that wasn't edited off. 225 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 4: Oh still happens, And it's it's crazy to me that, 226 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: like there's no checks and balances of this. 227 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: It's like, all right, well, is this what's good? I mean, 228 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 3: and obviously with sports, so we don't. 229 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: Take it as seriously as we do with other things, 230 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 4: but it exists in other realms of our life right now. 231 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 4: So I looked at that and I thought that was 232 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: that was one of the things that stood out to 233 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: me as far as and I'd love to see what 234 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: the ratings are because I'm sure they're not hitting what 235 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 4: they used to. Maybe with the new data and big 236 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: panel rating system, they'll prop it up somehow, but it's 237 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: losing its luster. It's not what it once was. And 238 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: I think part of that's the fact that you just 239 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 4: it kind of is what it is, and the NFL 240 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: never really figured out how to, you know, continue to 241 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: make this thing grow, and so you know that you're 242 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: you're trying to do all you can with it, and 243 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 4: one of those things is making sure that they get 244 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: the top players to come to the copy and perform. 245 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: And by having Carnel Tate's back as agents back, that's 246 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: one way of doing it. For the future is guys saying, hey, 247 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: if you go there and even if you don't perform 248 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 4: that great, We'll make sure we got you covered. I 249 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 4: mean even and now, look, maybe this is just Daniel, 250 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: because Daniels are super nice guy, but even the analysis 251 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: for the most part, has become super kind. And I'm 252 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: not saying that like Mike Mayock. Mike Mayock and Daniel 253 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: Jeremi are not the same guy obviously, but it seems 254 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 4: like even the conversation around the performances are super kind 255 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: and kind of soft, and if there's a misthrow, it's, well, 256 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: this is the combat. It's hard to get timing down 257 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: with these guys. It didn't used to be that way, 258 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 4: and so I feel like even the conversation around their 259 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: performance has changed as far as how critical guys are 260 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 4: going to be. 261 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, things that matter now didn't matter 262 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 3: too much before. People's emotions y'all, y'all made fun of me, 263 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: like talking about the whole Anthony Richardson thing. But it's real. 264 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, these kids are they rapped differently. Man. 265 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: They are different people and the culture and the society 266 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: that is. 267 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: Being being catered to and being entertained. 268 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: Play out this scenario. You're saying, if he just pulled 269 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,119 Speaker 3: up at the thirty yard line of the forty yard dash. 270 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: They were still talking behind it, take me out. They 271 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: find that was an incredible thirty yard dash. 272 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: Chef, chef, Yes, exactly what I'm saying. It's the greatest 273 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: thirty yard dash of all Because. 274 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: The sensitivities, the sensitivities that these young men have are 275 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: also it has to be an adapt an adaptive approach 276 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: by the agents and the agencies, so they're in turn 277 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: going to become touch sensitive and very sensitive about how 278 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: things are handled as well. It's a it's a it's 279 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: a trickle down effect. I'm telling you, these dudes are 280 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: different men. It's a different day and age. 281 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: Me say the quote tough times making tough dudes. 282 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: Tough times make tough dude, or hard times make tough dudes, 283 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: tough dudes, make easier times, easier times make what is it? 284 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: Make makes soft dudes soft dudes? Make hard times repeat 285 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: the process. It's something like that, maybe we're maybe we're 286 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: in that cycle somewhere, but we might be in the 287 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: cycle of of my dad walk to work. They're are 288 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: going to get a lot harder. You know, granddad walk 289 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: to work or great granddad walked to work, granddad drove 290 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: a Caddy to work, Dad drove h I don't know, 291 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: range drover. I drove a Lamborghini. My son will walk 292 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: to work. Like the whole process, it just it's it's 293 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: kind of soft these days. It's kind of soft. It's 294 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: also very catering, very catering culture. 295 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned you know in other you know, 296 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: news outlets, media, whatever, you know, the agenda, the pushing 297 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: a narrative. It's kind of insulting to a listener or 298 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: a viewer when they don't want to just give you 299 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: the information and let you sort it out and let 300 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: you figure out which side you fall on or what 301 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: your opinion is. They want to guide you along in 302 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: the process. This is how you should feel about it. 303 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: This is this is why you should feel this way 304 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: about it. No, how about these are just combine times 305 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: and results and you just give us the information, the 306 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: factual information. And let's just play this down the middle 307 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: and then we decide moving forward how we feel about 308 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: something and when it comes to this event, and if 309 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: that's basically what it is, it's turned into a TV show. 310 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,479 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys, but I can remember 311 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: when you were drafted, and I can remember watching from 312 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: that side of it and looking at it and going 313 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: it didn't feel like a TV show. It felt like 314 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: teams in the league trying to get better, and there 315 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: was a lot of great players like yourselves who were 316 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: providing organizations hope. There was no agenda being pushed, there 317 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: was no like, there was nothing an insider trying to 318 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: get one guy's information out there over somebody else's because 319 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 2: he's buddy buddy with an agent. It was just a 320 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: draft so that teams could get better and players could 321 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: realize their dreams. And now it's a TV show, a 322 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: three day TV show that moves around the country, and 323 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: that's awesome, But I find it I found myself less 324 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: interested in this combine this year than I have in recently. 325 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: You just have to want to be interested, though, you 326 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: gotta want to be interested for what you're interested. 327 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: But if it's not on the up and up. Why 328 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: would I want to be interested? 329 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: I mean, there's only so much up and up you 330 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: can get, Okay, you know, if you're watching it for 331 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: a pure entertainment value. If a dude jumped tu he 332 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 3: jumped high. 333 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 2: I mean, at least WWE's transparent around about it, like, hey, 334 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 2: this is what it is. 335 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 3: It is entertainment, Okay, exactly. It is the same thing. 336 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: Though the NFL is the same thing as the WWE. 337 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: All right, but it shouldn't be. 338 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: But it is. 339 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: That's a problem. 340 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: But it isn't a problem because you feel as though 341 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: it should be you. You have invested in emotion and 342 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: what you think it should be. That means you've exercised 343 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: some ownership over how you feel about what they're doing. 344 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: Didn't they have a wellness coach speaking all it? Didn't 345 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: I have like a happy coach, a nice coach for 346 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl or this year that they made it 347 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: a point to advertise about, like we have a wellness 348 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: coach or whatever. 349 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: Nice, be nice to the people person for. 350 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 4: That just because it was in San Francisco, though, Like 351 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 4: what I mean, he bro. 352 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 3: You know, you know, when you were having a segment 353 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: like this, it does make you start to think about 354 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: was it was it intentional for the super Bowl to 355 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: be in San Francisco this year? It was a time 356 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 3: like that. 357 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: I remember the super Bowl in New York. It would 358 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: not have been like that. I think you would agree. Yeah, 359 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 4: I mean they'd have a guy being like get them away. 360 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 5: Hey, hey, shut that up, forget about it. Go kick 361 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 5: gay go yeah, go to the Telli right there. Yeah, 362 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 5: get out of here, like listen, I'm just saying. And 363 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 5: that was maybe a different time in our culture, in 364 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 5: our society, Like I don't think for two seconds that 365 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 5: that wasn't a thought process. And where the super Bowl 366 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 5: was this year and more and more thinking about it 367 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 5: and the agendas that are are very very front of mine, 368 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 5: very front and center. You know, the whole equality you know, 369 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 5: the the letters, the whole LGB, T. 370 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: Q R S. Listen. I don't know all the letters, 371 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 3: but LG, l G TB anyway, the whole, the whole 372 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 3: agenda of all talking about the whole agenda of all 373 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: of these different groups not touching it. Hey, listen, there 374 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 3: are there are cultural implications to not doing things the 375 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: right way. Hey, what what are have in the back 376 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: of what are having the back of end zones all 377 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: year and they continued to do it the back of 378 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: alment changing. Yeah, it's interesting, there is. 379 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: It's like those tweets where something happens, someone tweets something 380 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: out it immediately changes the situation. 381 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: There's a culture shift that's would Bet just put up 382 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: a hashtag? 383 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 4: I think And by the way, I don't want to 384 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: get this confused or mixed with the fact that I 385 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: love Carnell Tate. 386 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a great receiver in the NFL. 387 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: I could care less about his forty yard dashtime because 388 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 4: I watch him play. I know he can separate. 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They are making moves now. 445 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: These moves aren't official yet, but they have informed a 446 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: couple of players currently on their roster that they will 447 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: probably most likely not be on their roster very much longer. 448 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: Those two would be Aaron Jones and Javon Hargrave. The 449 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: Vikings have informed both that, barring a trade, they will 450 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: be released later this month. It will free up eighteen 451 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: plus million dollars in cap space that to go along 452 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: with whatever their plan is at quarterback to bring in 453 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: competition aka take the job from JJ McCarthy. The Minnesota 454 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 2: Vikings appear to be wheeling and dealing, thus far out 455 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 2: of it, out with the GM and in with a 456 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: brand new roster they're hoping with. 457 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 4: What's interesting about this is, you know, it's not atypical 458 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: to see a team, you know, try to have some 459 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 4: cap savings and restructure the roster or they move on 460 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: from a general manager. So if you recall, Quasi Dopomensa 461 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 4: was fired at the end of January. However, they haven't 462 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: hired to do general manager, have they No. 463 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: There was somebody who was the interm. 464 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: So I believe that their executive vice president Rob Brazinski 465 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 4: is actually handling the operations as of now. But what 466 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 4: makes that interesting is is just how much power now 467 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: maybe Kevin O'Connell has, you know. 468 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: That's what it kind of signs to me, is as. 469 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 4: Much as this is a move where you're probably going 470 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: to do so anyway, I do wonder if you look 471 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: at the structure of the Vikings organization, were some of 472 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: those players, maybe players that Quisy do Fomenso spent on, 473 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 4: and and maybe Kevin O'Connell was saying, hey, man, like 474 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 4: that's not where a spinning should be. You know, we 475 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 4: should be spending in other positions edge rusher, wide receiver dB, 476 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 4: you know, looking for a quarterback like we missed out 477 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 4: on Sam Darnold. 478 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: He just won a Super Bowl at the Seahawks. 479 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 4: So maybe there were some conversations that were had that 480 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 4: you know, again led to Quissi Adopha Mensas firing. But 481 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: also now some of these decisions as they're trying to 482 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: restructure their cap and get back to a better place 483 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: to build back up and some of the names rumored 484 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 4: to you know, come in there, compete Kyler Murray, Geno 485 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 4: Smith or two that I saw, and I think it 486 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: would make a lot of sense. I think every quarterback, 487 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 4: by the way, who is looking at trying to revamp 488 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: their career or or you know, try to improve, you 489 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 4: know from here moving forward and kind of grow and 490 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: get better. 491 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: It helps to. 492 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: Have Kevin O'Connell, and it sure as heck helps to 493 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 4: have Justin Jefferson. So I'm sure that's a number one 494 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: one of the top spots for a team that you 495 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: could say they got jaj McCarthy, But it feels like 496 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: they're looking for something that you could go restart your 497 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: career again. 498 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what they're going to do at at 499 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: the running backs position. I mean, right now, it looks 500 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 3: as though they have what Jordan Mason that that will 501 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 3: I guess lead the way and then ty Ty Chandler. 502 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 3: I think there are bigger issues here with the Vikings 503 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: than what may be perceived outside of it just being 504 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 3: about JJ McCarthy. I don't know if we've seen and listen, 505 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: I get all of the positive talk you got you 506 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: got to coach that that has done well with multiple 507 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 3: journeyman quarterbacks, but it just hasn't seemed to work out 508 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: with nine. You just you're coming off of a season 509 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: where it was the poor season for Jordans, I mean 510 00:26:53,960 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 3: for Justin's uh, Justin Smith and Justin Jefferson excuse me, uh? 511 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 3: And I mean where was Jordan Addison? Did he have 512 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: a good year this year? I'm not sure if he 513 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: had a good. 514 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: He missed the uh. 515 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: I know he was suspended for the first part, but 516 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: that whole fall a sleep outside the airport drunk, I 517 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: just set the set the tone for the season. I 518 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: just think that I think they slept walk through this season, 519 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 3: and I don't know. Again, I always think back to 520 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: to what coach Campbell said and speaking of the lines 521 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: like listen, you don't ever know if you're ever going 522 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 3: to make it back this far again, so you try 523 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: to take advantage of it as best you can. I 524 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 3: don't know that the Vikings are going to bounce back 525 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 3: or regroup and be a better team. They might have 526 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: had their opportunity where we considered them one of the 527 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: top teams in the league. They did really well with 528 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: Darnold at the helm, and that might have been their moment. Again, 529 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 3: there's question marks on the center's position, there's there going 530 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: to be there. They're a little thin at the linebacker's position. 531 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: They got some decent edge guys, but they they got 532 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 3: to have depth there. I mean, there there are question marks. 533 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: Can door saw return back to uh to to the 534 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: to the you know form that he was before his injuries. 535 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: It's just to me, I feel like there's a lot 536 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: of questions and it's not just uh JJ McCarthy or 537 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: somebody comes in and fixes it. I'm not so sure 538 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: that even if they you know, Kyler Murray comes in whatever, man, 539 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that they returned back to being the 540 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: type of team we saw them look like when Darnold 541 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: was the was the starter. 542 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: The thing that makes it tricky to assess the vikings 543 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: is that it's not like they were bad last year. 544 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: I think they won their last five, they finished with 545 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: nine wins. It's not that they were an awful team. 546 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: And yet they've they're going out making all these moves 547 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: and firing their GM because yeah, it does feel like 548 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: there's sort of a hey, that was a quasy guy, 549 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: that was him, that was his guy, you know, and 550 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: he's got to go, and we're going to now take 551 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: over and kind of move this thing in a different direction. 552 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: And I look at the JJ McCarthy situation, I go, 553 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: I think he might be in the worst spot of 554 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: any starting quarterback in the league because everybody wants that 555 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: team as far as quarterbacks go, every quarterback available would 556 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: want that team. Yet that team doesn't want JJ McCarthy, 557 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: so they're looking around for an answer outside the building 558 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: when it was his for the taking. And it feels 559 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: and Kevin O'Connell made the point, and because there was 560 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 2: this report that came out last year that Diana Rossini said, well, 561 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: they're going to go with JJ McCarthy because they feel 562 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: like they have a three year window to compete, a 563 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: three year window to win a Super Bowl. And Kevin 564 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: O'Connell said, I think at the combine last week something 565 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: along the lines of, yeah, listen, the timelines have changed 566 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: a little bit, which sounded to me like, yeah, we 567 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: got to find an answer quarterback and we don't have 568 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: one in the building. And it sucks he was in 569 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: injured and that's unfortunate, but we just don't have an 570 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: answer there and we're going to go in a different direction. 571 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: I can tell you this much from what I know 572 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: that he wasn't the quarterback that they wanted in that 573 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: draft class. 574 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: They they you know, they were looking at Drake May. 575 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: There's there's a few guys that they really really liked, 576 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: and they were trying to move heaven and earth to 577 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 4: go get them, and he kind of fell to a 578 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 4: spot where they're like, okay, like we'll take him on. 579 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 4: But they knew bringing him on there was going to 580 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: be some developmental time needed in order for him to 581 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 4: become the player that they thought it maybe could be. 582 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 4: So I wonder how much then, especially after Sam Dartl's 583 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 4: here there, if they looked at that and said again 584 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: going back to the relationship between Kevin O'Connor and quisi 585 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 4: Udo Flamensa, and this happens a lot of times, but 586 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 4: you kind of have to connect the dots. Once decisions 587 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: are made and one gets fired. One stays is you know, 588 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: he wasn't supplying Kevin O'Connor what he wanted or listening 589 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: to them and maybe giving them, you know, other players, 590 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: and then kind of building a roster that wasn't in 591 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 4: the vision of what Kevin O'Connell had. Whatever the case 592 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 4: may be, it sounds like there was a lot of 593 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 4: frustration watching Darnald go win a Super Bowl, watching JJ 594 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: McCarthy struggle, and seeing other guys continue to flourish. Drake 595 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 4: May he was a part of obviously the MVP conversation 596 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: this season. Uh, you know, he gets his team to 597 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, Like I think that, you know, as 598 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 4: the playoffs started to ensue, probably was a breaking point 599 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: for that relationship, as in, like, hey, dude, I told 600 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 4: you about two guys that I wanted. You didn't get either, 601 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 4: and now look where they're playing, and imagine them on 602 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 4: our roster. What our season could have been, given that 603 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: we were nine and eight, we weren't necessarily you know. 604 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 3: That far out of it. 605 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 4: We could have been right there if we just would 606 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 4: have gotten a chance to get into the playoffs. So 607 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 4: I I and then look, I'm not sure that Minnesota 608 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 4: you know, beats either the Rams or the Seahawks in 609 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 4: this past year's you know, playoff run. But at the 610 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: end of the day, I could see the frustration from 611 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell if that was the disagreement. And oftentimes when 612 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 4: you don't have one that's overseeing all of it, I mean, hey, ultimately, 613 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: whatever decision the general manager makes, it has to be 614 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: in the eyes of Kevin O'Connell and what he's trying 615 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: to build and the vision he has for his team. 616 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: To me, it's it's never gonna work. 617 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: I mean, And also the fact that Kevin O'Connell does 618 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: have that much power. I would be okay with that 619 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: if I was if I was a Vikings fan, knowing like, hey, 620 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: this is they basically chose, right, they basically chose all right, 621 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: If this relationship between Quesia Dopamnza and Kevin O'Connell, if 622 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: we've got to pick one, we're gonna pick Kevin O'Connell. 623 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: So it wouldn't make sense that he would be the 624 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: guy that would be the main decision maker, maybe not 625 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: by title, but maybe influence on roster decisions moving forward. 626 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: And by the way, I think that's fair, right. 627 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: I mean, he's got a six thirty two win percentage 628 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 4: in his first four years as a head coach. He's 629 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 4: had three or four winning season, has been to the 630 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 4: playoffs two of those years, won the division once. I mean, 631 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 4: he's he's been everything that I think they'd hope for. 632 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: And I think if if you keep supplying him with 633 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 4: what he wants, I think they look at it and say, yeah, 634 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: we can, like we can do even more. 635 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: It's I think they got to do more though, if 636 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: he doesn't, If he doesn't do more this year as 637 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: the head coach, I think this is a big year 638 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 3: for him. And listen, I mean he's in the hot seat. 639 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: If they don't win this year, yeah, I don't. I 640 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: don't know that he gets out. I'm not saying hot 641 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 3: seat fire after He's not coming back. No, he's coming back. 642 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: He's coming back. I think this is a critical year 643 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 3: for him as the head coach of this team. I 644 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: mean he's he's clearly got a nice record going. He's 645 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: got a good, good rapport. People like him, people believe 646 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 3: in what he does. But he hasn't had success in 647 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: the playoffs, and he has a fallse sup of the 648 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: combine either. I think that helps well. I mean some 649 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: would say he fell asleep and his appearances in the playoffs, 650 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: dam I mean he wasn't awake a sleep at the wheel. 651 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: All I'm saying is, I think this is now that 652 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: you have made way by getting rid of the GM. 653 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 3: The poor year falls on the GM, as we've all discussed, 654 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 3: but now you have to assume that now that spotlight 655 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 3: goes on to the head coach and what the head 656 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 3: coach does, and I think that this will be imperative 657 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: for him, very critical for him to have successful what 658 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: he does this year. I don't know how you make 659 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 3: you if you feel good about the running back room 660 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: that you have right now. I guess you get rid 661 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 3: of Aaron Jones. I like Aaron Jones. Maybe he's deteriorating, 662 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: maybe he's to the point now where he can't be 663 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: good enough. But I think you got to have a 664 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: good back or two. You gotta have a good back 665 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 3: or two. The quarterback is a question mark. I don't 666 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 3: think Whence steps in is the guy. I don't think 667 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: that you find a guy that's going to make your 668 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: team that much better better in free agency. I don't 669 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: think it's a Kyler Murray that makes your team magically better. 670 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: I just I don't know how he makes his team 671 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: better than what it was. Where do you find a center? 672 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 3: You know, if you don't get your center resigned, where 673 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 3: do you get a new center? I just you know. 674 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of question marks to me 675 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 3: for this Vikings team, and it would be interesting to 676 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 3: see if O'Connell and Company can actually pull things together 677 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: and go back in the direction that they were going 678 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: in when we saw them with Sam Darnold. 679 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 2: It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on 680 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with 681 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 2: you coming up next here. Though harsh words for a 682 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, you'll hear them right here on FSR. 683 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 684 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 6: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 685 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 6: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 686 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 6: on Fox Sports Radio and The Radio. 687 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: While Gotta Be Tough, Yeah, because you're only a man 688 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 3: who Yeah, come on, Gotta hang Tough repeats itself. They 689 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 3: should have been playing this at the combine the whole 690 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 3: entire time on repeat. 691 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: Yo, the best horround. 692 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, yo, the best around. 693 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: It's so high, Patty, so good. 694 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 3: So let's go, Patty, I gotta wait for it, all right, 695 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a while. You gotta go through a 696 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 3: whole Yeah. 697 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 2: Hey Brady, all right, yeah, I think he's back. 698 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 3: You're the one out here with a blow gun, Like, 699 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: what are you doing? I'm just I told you would 700 00:36:54,719 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 3: be long y'all not bringing y'all listen. I will not 701 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 3: speak that evil on me. Ricky, Bobby you, Oh gosh, 702 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: there it is it? 703 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: Come on, Patty, Yeah, there we go. 704 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: Sounds like a cat that dang big to be saying 705 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 3: around like that falsetto man. 706 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: Come on, he's like, now is two pros and a 707 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 2: cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, 708 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. You can find us on 709 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: the Iheartradiot. Find us on hundreds of affiliates all across 710 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: the country as we take you live all the way 711 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. If 712 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: you're listening on the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. 713 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: Talking all sorts of NFL combine stuff here. Yeah, the 714 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: Linemen are currently on obviously on delay. This is taped, Yeah, 715 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 2: all recorded, But the Linemen are run out there running. 716 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: Who is the guy? Was it Fano? The guy from 717 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 2: was it Utah that ran a four as a ligneman? 718 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: That was my fastest time in high school for nine Yeah, 719 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: and I think I waited seventy for I think I. 720 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 3: Would die laughing if I saw you run full speed. 721 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 3: Oh god, it's awful. Fu, I can't picture it. It'd 722 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 3: be fun you be funny. Yeah, I can't picture Jona's running. 723 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 3: I like envision Jim Carrey esque, like you look like 724 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 3: Jim Carretty. 725 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: You see him over the weekend. I think it was 726 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 2: from over the weekend. There's some people that are thinking 727 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 2: that maybe that's not Jim Carrey, it's somebody portraying Jim Carrey. 728 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, wild stuff out there. 729 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 3: So that's a whole thing with in Living color people 730 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 3: because they did that with Jamie Fox when he had 731 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 3: his health issue, right. 732 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, listen, some stuff out there, man, interesting 733 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: wild times. All right, So from Jim Carrey stunt double. 734 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 2: By the way, that is not Jim Carrey. 735 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 3: There's no way that's Jim Carrey. Show me. 736 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 4: I'm all sending you the link. I'm looking at. This 737 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: doesn't look anything like him. You got to you gotta 738 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 4: scroll down. But that doesn't I mean, if they're trying 739 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 4: to hide the fact that they're trying to hide Jim 740 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 4: carry or have someone else stand in like, they're not 741 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: doing a good job because this guy is terrible. Although 742 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 4: now that I think about it, like looking at this. 743 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 4: It makes me think there's a few things. Joe Biden. 744 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 4: I was like, wait a second, I told you that 745 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 4: Joe Biden was a I. I told y'all that I 746 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 4: don't know about AI. There's people were there in person 747 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 4: remote control, brouh. He has a little alien you know, 748 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 4: you remember, like uh men in black. 749 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: He also grew, which was weird. 750 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he got a lot taller. 751 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 2: Well, isn't that Jim Carrey. 752 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 3: The guy on the right, he has scroll. 753 00:39:50,520 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 4: Down his watch on X. That's him. No chance, you 754 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 4: must be being a contrariance. That's what you think. There's 755 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,479 Speaker 4: no chance that's Jim Carre. 756 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: I just sent you another one bar. That's all I'm 757 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: looking at. That ain't him, man, That ain't him. Man. 758 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 3: That's not him. 759 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 2: Either that or whoever his surgeon is. His voice does 760 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: that's what it is? Different eye color, everything. 761 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 4: Maybe his Maybe it's an altered it's an altered photo, 762 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 4: like you guys, a video. 763 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what you're watching. I'm watching a video. 764 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: Maybe his surgeon was Aaron Glenn at the combine and 765 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 2: he woke up halfway. 766 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 3: Him and Tom Brady had the same person they go 767 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 3: to see for their facials. We're doing that. 768 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 2: Damn, We're doing that, all right. 769 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel like I'm not looking at Tom Brady. 770 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 3: I'm just being honest. Well, man, this is a Tom 771 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 3: Brady I used to look out of eye on the 772 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 3: football fields, not to Tom Brady that I'll be seeing 773 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 3: when I'm watching day games being called by him. Just 774 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 3: I'm just being honest. Sorry, hey man, they stubbed him out. 775 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 2: Look. Uh hey, Jim Brewers said the same thing about 776 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle as well too, Yeah, they did that. Dave 777 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 2: Chappelle is. 778 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 3: There's a new there's a new Dave Chappelle. 779 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 2: You know what I love though, I love that nobody 780 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: can just lose weight anymore. That's what I'm saying. I mean, like, hey, 781 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: I thought it was a little bit. 782 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 8: Weight. 783 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 3: It's not only the losing weight part, but people really 784 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 3: have gotten into the whole peptides and you know t 785 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 3: what is a t R T and all that and 786 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 3: all like boosting your testosterone and it's it's just a 787 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 3: lot of different things going on out here sthetically, and 788 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 3: it makes you look different. 789 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 2: You look different. I saw my mom. 790 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 3: I've never seen my mom so small. Sorry as God 791 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 3: bless you know. Funeral but I was like, mom, it's 792 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 3: you scared me, like you're too small. I like bigger 793 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 3: mom my little mom. You know, but it's just a 794 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 3: new thing. Well you explained what that was, though, Where 795 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 3: are you going with this? This is my mama. 796 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 2: So if we don't hear you say any. 797 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 3: Other words after you say what you're about to say, 798 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 3: just know this is my mama. All right? Go ahead. 799 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 2: Mall walks, Yes, they do walk them all. 800 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I didn't know that was the thing. 801 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 3: They walked them all like before, like it opens. But 802 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 3: it's it's not like the stores aren't open and people 803 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 3: walk them all. 804 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: Just breeze right by that cinebunon right when they first 805 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: come out. How many laps they do? 806 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. My dad's not walking that great anymore. 807 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 3: They're getting older, you know, imagine that being an old 808 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 3: ass man walking with no le cat prosthetics. 809 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 2: Oh, they getting old man. Jonahs needs help? 810 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: What do you mean? Jonahs needs help? And that's and 811 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 3: that's Jim Carrey. I don't care what y'all say. 812 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 2: I sent you more, Brady. It's not out of trying, 813 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 2: all right. 814 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 4: I've always seen one. Lorenda must be on a different 815 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 4: text thread because I'm not seeing any of this, but 816 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 4: the one I saw the audio nothing, Man, that's not him. 817 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 4: That's not him, eye color, the voice, I mean, the 818 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 4: cheek bones, they put something in there. 819 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 3: It's him. 820 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 2: I mean it's a shame. You can't just be reckless 821 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 2: and say, hey, man, you know the guy's are drugging. 822 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 3: Didn't he get away from the whole scene and all that? 823 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: I think? So, so, how's her drug addict? 824 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 3: Well? 825 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 2: No, I mean, but you don't have to be in 826 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 2: the scene to be a drug addict. I mean it 827 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 2: could be. I'm just saying I think that the scene's 828 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 2: part of where it happens. I'm just saying it's you know, 829 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 2: you can't just be reckless about it. We can't blame 830 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 2: on that he's been hijacked by artificial intelligence and he 831 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 2: was secretly cloned. 832 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that guy. I mean, if you're if you're 833 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 3: trying to save your look or your youth or whatever 834 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 3: it is that these cats in Hollywood be trying to do, 835 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that's a compliment. 836 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 2: A Ted Williams was ahead of his time. Man, try 837 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 2: to put everybody up on that frozen head game. 838 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: Bro. 839 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 2: We freeze the head. Him and Mickey are many Who. 840 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 3: Was first, Walt Disney or Ted Williams. 841 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. By the way, Walt Disney, I'd love 842 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 2: to see what his lungs look like. 843 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 4: He was a smoker. People were gone, dude. I think 844 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 4: it was just as head they kept right. 845 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 2: God, yeah, we can't not keeping those lungs look like 846 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 2: punching bags. 847 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 3: I mean, in theory, if they are able to bring 848 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 3: back them wild horses. Like I was at the San 849 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 3: Diego Zoo and we were doing the safari right, and 850 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 3: they were like, those are wild horses, Like whatever they are, 851 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: whatever they were recreate, they were cloned, recreated from the 852 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 3: DNA of wild horses. They were extinct. They brought dire 853 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 3: wolves back, they brought the wild horses back. What's to 854 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 3: say if you had the DNA from one of these guys, like, 855 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 3: there might be a Walt Disney walking around, there might 856 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 3: be a tad walking around. There might be some way 857 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 3: somehow they can generate a kid through DNA. I don't 858 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 3: understand all that stuff. I don't I don't pretend to 859 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 3: be on that that type of thinking pattern. But if 860 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 3: you could recreate wild horses from cloning or the sheep 861 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 3: that they were doing. Why wouldn't you be able to 862 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 3: do it with a person. 863 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 4: It's all the same type stuff, right, clearly they didn't 864 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 4: there you go multiple times over. 865 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 3: Or maybe they're just. 866 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 2: Come on, man, let it fly, just let it go. 867 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 3: Maybe they're just doing rituals and going to different secluded 868 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 3: islands and you know, doing other things to maintain their 869 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 3: youth or change their looks, stuff like that. You know, yep, 870 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 3: extreme you know, extreme approaches. There is that, okay, and 871 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 3: then there's there's a sports show called Two Pros and 872 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 3: a Cup of Joe Knox, Brady Quinn and a guy 873 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 3: about the name of fat Boy Errington. Nobody says that 874 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm cloned, bitch, I'm clone because the old meat didn't 875 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,479 Speaker 3: look like this. You know, I think it look great. 876 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 3: Thanks buddy, you got it. 877 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 2: By the way, with the iHeart Radio app, you can 878 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 2: stream us wherever you happen to be. Catch us in 879 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 2: all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four 880 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: to seven in the new and improved iHeart Radio app. 881 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio and the app to stream us 882 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 2: live all day, every day, and be sure to select 883 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets in the 884 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 2: iHeart apps will always pop up at the top of 885 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 2: your screen. All Right, you guys, ready for potentially another 886 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 2: name in the mix of quarterback competition in Cleveland? All right, 887 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 2: who's ready for maybe another name? Because we've heard about 888 00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 2: Massage Watson, Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel. But maybe Ty Simpson 889 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 2: could be a potential fit in Cleveland based on the 890 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: relationship that he has with New Brown's head coach Todd Monkin. 891 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 8: My dad and coach Monk go go way back. They 892 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 8: talk and talk, you know often. He texted in when 893 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 8: he got the job, and they you know. 894 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 3: Text it a little bit. So if I had the 895 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 3: opportunity to. 896 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 8: Play for the Browns and be you know, I dream country, 897 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 8: I think I'd be in great hands, you know, with 898 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 8: the team that they had, the organization, and then you 899 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,760 Speaker 8: know coach Monk and what he does with the quarterbacks 900 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 8: and the offense is super you know friendly and quarterback friendly. 901 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 8: And I think that, you know, he's going to coach 902 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 8: me hard if I be able to go there, but 903 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 8: he's going to do it in the right way. So 904 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 8: I'm super excited. 905 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 2: All right, I'm into it. I'm into it now. I 906 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 2: have a question for you guys. Do you believe that 907 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 2: they will draft two quarterbacks this year the Browns Again, 908 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 2: do you think they'll do that this year or is 909 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 2: it just last year alone that they'll draft two quarterbacks 910 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 2: and this is just last year? 911 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I think they bring on one. I don't think 912 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 3: they draft too. I think they draft one. 913 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 2: You buying the Tie Simpson connection there, potentially I. 914 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 4: Would describe it as this. Yes, there's a legitimate relationship there. 915 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a lot of you know what, would 916 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 4: love to play for him, you know, everything from beforehand. 917 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 4: But this also is a it's a draft class at 918 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 4: quarterback where there's Fernando Mendoza and then not really even 919 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 4: a consensus on who the number two is. Like, I 920 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 4: think it's pretty clear Ty Simpson is number two. And 921 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 4: by the way, I'm not even sure he's that far 922 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 4: off from Mendoza. 923 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 3: You know. 924 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 4: The one thing that he's gotten that's not working in 925 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 4: his favor is lack of experience. So because Ty Simpsons 926 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 4: only started what fifteen games in his career, it's being 927 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 4: kind of looked at differently than Mendoza, who started a 928 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 4: couple years of cow came over to Indiana and obviously 929 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 4: had a historical season. But when you watch them both 930 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 4: throw and you watch the tape of really what both 931 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 4: were trying to accomplish, I gotta be honest, man, Ty 932 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 4: Simpson's not far off from Fernanda Mendoza, you know. And 933 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 4: I know we're talking about the Heisman winner, but he 934 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 4: can make all the throws. As I've said before, he 935 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 4: carried that Alabama offense, which is a crazy thing to 936 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 4: think because you know, it's think Bamay think great running 937 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 4: backs now since mark Ingram and you know many of 938 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 4: the guys that have come through their Shawn Alexander before 939 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 4: him and all that. 940 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 3: But it was not that at all. It was more 941 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 3: of a pass happy. 942 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 4: Offense, and you know that was where they excelled largely 943 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 4: because of him, and their defense wasn't what it has 944 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 4: been in the past, so he had to kind of 945 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 4: do more with less than I think other BAMA quarterbacks 946 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 4: have in the past. And his tape's pretty damn good. 947 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 4: The question, though, is where's he gonna go. Like, I 948 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 4: don't know that there's going to be a team that 949 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 4: takes him in the first round. 950 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that. 951 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 4: I don't know if there's gonna be another quarterback taken 952 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 4: in the first round. This could be similar to this 953 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 4: year where we saw Kenny Pickett. I believe it was 954 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 4: the only first round quarterback that year. This year could 955 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 4: be something similar to that. And you know, if there 956 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,919 Speaker 4: is a tie there, great lean into Cleveland's a team 957 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 4: that based on their current situation. I don't I'm not 958 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 4: sure you're saying they're definitely a need of a quarterback, 959 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 4: should or did enough to earn an opportunity this year. 960 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 4: The massage is still there, so you've got those two, 961 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 4: and then that's assuming Dylan Gabriel, who's. 962 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 3: Also started the game, is still there. 963 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure it's a huge need for them, 964 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 4: but I'm not sure there's a huge need elsewhere either. 965 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 4: And I think the hard thing for Tys Simpson is 966 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 4: he might get caught up and really they're not being 967 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,439 Speaker 4: a ton of teams that have a need, or maybe 968 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 4: they're not in love with the fact that, you know, 969 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 4: he's only started so many games. 970 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 3: They might want to go with the veteran route. 971 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 4: And if that's the case, he may have to wait 972 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 4: and find a team that's way to take him and 973 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 4: then sit him and develop him, which might not be 974 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 4: the worst thing for him long term in his career. 975 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 4: But I'm not sure Cleveland's a team that takes them. 976 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 4: They got they got to rebuild their offensive line. There's 977 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 4: a lot of things going. 978 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 3: On there in Cleveland. If Andrew Barry takes a quarterback 979 00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 3: that is in the discussion of playing or being the 980 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:07,280 Speaker 3: future for the Cleveland Browns, I'm not I'm not sure 981 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 3: where that places him in terms of where you go 982 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 3: with your job. If if you take another quarterback in 983 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 3: this draft after taking a third and a fifth round 984 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 3: or which you don't really have to go fifth round 985 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 3: in that equation. Outside of saying its Shador Sanders and 986 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,479 Speaker 3: the fan fear the the coverage him ending up being 987 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 3: the starter, I think that's what creates a larger conversation. 988 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,879 Speaker 3: Andrew Barry looks like a beast. If Shador Sanders proves out, 989 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 3: I think people will give a flyer and a pass 990 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 3: on on Deshaun Watson if that indeed concludes without getting 991 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 3: any type of an ROI from him. I think I 992 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 3: think he's okay there, But I think I think the 993 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 3: whole Dylan Gabriel is a I think that's a conversation 994 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 3: why go out and get If Shador Sanders ends up 995 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 3: being the guy, which I think everybody fully anticipates in 996 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 3: this quarterback competition, Shador Sanders will probably emerge, but maybe 997 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 3: he doesn't. I don't know. I think Deshaun Watson should 998 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 3: be the one that you should be focused in on 999 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 3: because of the money and because I think he's actually 1000 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 3: better than Dylan and Shador Sanders. I think he's a 1001 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 3: better option today potentially. So I don't think you add 1002 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 3: another Why add another quarterback to that room when you 1003 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 3: already have three? I think there's things you can do 1004 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 3: to improve your team, and going after a quarterback in 1005 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 3: the draft, I just don't see that. I think you 1006 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 3: get a quarterback that goes to your practice squad or 1007 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,720 Speaker 3: gets cut. If you get a quarterback in this year's draft, 1008 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 3: you guys ready to play a little game here? Oh 1009 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 3: all right, it is about that time? All right? Love it. 1010 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 2: DraftKings has done it again. 1011 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 3: I like that music, Little Wound. 1012 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 2: Which team will Ty Simpson be drafted by? 1013 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 8: Now? 1014 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns are sitting at nine to one on DraftKings. 1015 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 2: There are currently five teams ahead of the Browns with 1016 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 2: shorter odds to draft ty Simpson. Would you guys like 1017 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 2: to guess who those five teams are? All right? Who 1018 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 2: wants to go first? 1019 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 3: The Jets? 1020 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 2: The Jets are number one shortest odds on the list 1021 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 2: at plus one eighty five one hundred wins of one 1022 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 2: to eighty five in return. 1023 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 3: Although Aaron Glenn could have been asleep for some of 1024 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 3: he already knew that they wanted ty Simpson. There there 1025 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 3: you go. Oh that's how we got Yeah, they already was. 1026 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,959 Speaker 3: I mean that the work's already been done. 1027 00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 2: I like that. 1028 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 3: And it makes sense who's in the top ten, so 1029 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 3: they're not taking them in the top two, so maybe 1030 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. Yeah. Uh, we mentioned Kenny Pigott. 1031 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 2: Let's go with the Steelers, the air number two. Great 1032 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 2: call the Pittsburgh Yes, about sitting at a plus three 1033 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 2: point thirty all right, so one hundred wins of three 1034 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 2: thirty in return? All right, so we got three more 1035 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 2: to go. 1036 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals. 1037 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 2: That is correct, the Arizona Cardinals at plus four twenty 1038 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 2: five in the DraftKings' shortest odds to draft Ty Simpson 1039 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 2: game Dolphins. The Miami Dolphins plus three seventy are on 1040 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 2: the list. That leaves one more to go. Wow on 1041 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 2: the who will draft Ty Simpsons? 1042 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 4: He said, And obviously not Cleveland, right, not Cleveland. 1043 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 2: Can I give you a hints, Raiders? Can I give 1044 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 2: you a hint? 1045 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 3: Yes? 1046 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 2: Sure, he he would be in a very good situation 1047 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 2: if this LeVar after him? 1048 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 3: LeVar, your name is your brother? The Minnesota Vikings. That 1049 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 3: is incorrect. 1050 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 4: Here's the problem is, I'm trying to figure out what 1051 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 4: you define as a very good situation. 1052 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 2: Well, would not be asked to play right away, but 1053 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 2: would be in a position. 1054 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 3: Philly. 1055 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 2: No, not Philly. It is not Philly Falcons, not the 1056 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:45,800 Speaker 2: Atlanta Founcon. Well, I'm done guessing that's dumb. That's that 1057 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 2: is correct. That's correct. That correct. Look at some. 1058 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 3: Point, I don't know what that was. That was easy. 1059 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 2: That was a great That was a great hint. That 1060 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 2: was that was at some point they're going to have 1061 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 2: to find somebody for Stafford after Yeah, and so I 1062 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 2: you know that could be. That's a good pot. I'm 1063 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 2: not mad at that. You know he's there and he 1064 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 2: just kind of takes. 1065 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 3: You wouldn't have the Vikings on there? Why not if 1066 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 3: he's not going in the first round, Why would you 1067 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 3: not think about drafting a quarterback. 1068 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 2: They're after the Minnesota have a first round pick. Yeah, 1069 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 2: they're picking I think nineteen. 1070 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 3: I would take. If you're saying he's that close to Mendoza, 1071 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm taking eighteen. 1072 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 2: Minnesota's eight. I'm taking him. 1073 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 3: If I'm the Minnesota Vikings and there's a player that's comparable. 1074 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 3: And it came from Brady Quinn here right here on 1075 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 3: two pros and a cup of Joe clipped this. Take it, 1076 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 3: put it in an envelope, put a stamp on it, 1077 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 3: Lick that stamp, put it in the mail, and send it. 1078 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 3: Why would you not take Ty Simpson in the first 1079 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,319 Speaker 3: round if you're the Minnesota Vikings and he's that If 1080 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 3: he's that close, he's got a fall to Mendoza. Huh, 1081 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 3: he's got a fault of them. Well you said he 1082 00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 3: might not go in the first round. 1083 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, he might not. But by the way, let me 1084 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 4: be clear on this. If Mendoza was going in the 1085 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 4: draft next year, I don't know that he'd be I. 1086 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 3: Mean, oh wow, oh wow, be way behind the group. No, 1087 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 3: it's true. You don't need to make this viral. This 1088 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 3: isn't like I'm not like on an island with. 1089 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 4: This opinion, let's go, let's go viral. Watch from anyone 1090 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 4: who's watched sounds viral to me. 1091 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 3: The Heisman Trophy winner, that's the number one overall pick 1092 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 3: this year, locked and loaded, wouldn't even be what. I 1093 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 3: wouldn't put him ahead of Dante Moore. I wouldn't put 1094 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 3: him ahead of C. J. 1095 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 4: Carr and Arch Manning and all these Trinidad cholmless. 1096 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 3: I mean, you can keep going down down the line. 1097 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 4: There's a lot of guys in next year's draft class 1098 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 4: who he would have a lot of tough competition with. 1099 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, it was an incredible season. He 1100 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 4: won the highest he won a national championship, and he 1101 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 4: could turn out to be a great player in the NFL. 1102 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 4: I'm just saying this year's draft class, as far as 1103 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 4: the competition of the talent of pastors that he's going 1104 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 4: up against, is nowhere close to what next year's is. 1105 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 4: And this is not just my opinion. Ask anyone in 1106 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 4: the NFL community. Ask anyone in the college, you know, 1107 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 4: scouting community. They would tell you the same thing. 1108 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 2: Okay, and uh, you know reportedly, I take. 1109 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 3: Your word for it. I don't need to ask all 1110 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 3: the other people. That's why you're on this show. I 1111 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 3: take I take Brady Quinn's word for it. Uh, and 1112 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 3: it is viral. 1113 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 2: Fernana Mendoza was tago with CBS and said that a 1114 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 2: team was telling him to get arrested so he would 1115 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 2: slide in the draft. And Uh, what's funny about that 1116 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 2: is people who think the Raiders would shy away from 1117 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 2: taking somebody who got arrested. That's what's funny. 1118 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 3: That's a good one, Like. 1119 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 2: Like the Raiders would really, Oh, we're gonna let this 1120 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 2: guy slip right off. 1121 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 3: You know, have you seen their black hole? Oh Jesus, 1122 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of priors down there. Wait, hold on, 1123 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 3: where were we? What direction did you try to take? 1124 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have problems, man. It is two pros and 1125 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 2: a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, 1126 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 2: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. Up next, We're going 1127 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 2: to tell you about somebody in the NFL who might 1128 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 2: be fed up right here on FSR,