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Speaker 1: Oh, must tasks to do over time. Good afternoon, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the j W Marry at Hotel Yell. We're

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Speaker 1: I'm John Murphy. This is Team Tasker. Welcome to One

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Speaker 1: Villes Live, presented by a Lot of Health. It is

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Speaker 1: game day here in Chicago, preseason game number four. John

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Speaker 1: How have you been You had your CBS meetings? Huh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that sounds pretty cryptic. It is. It's totally cryptic.

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Speaker 1: We can argue about whether that's fair or whether that's warranted.

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Speaker 1: So it's never as good as it looks either. So uh,

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Speaker 1: as bad as the team has looked at times in

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Speaker 1: the preseason, as good as it looked in times, it's

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Speaker 1: never as good or as bad as it seems. And

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Speaker 1: I think we're not. You know, there's only so much

432
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Speaker 1: we can learn watching it on television. When you go

433
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Speaker 1: back when the coaches, I think those guys live for

434
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Speaker 1: these games so they can go back and watch their

435
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Speaker 1: players when their players know that it really counts when

436
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Speaker 1: the chips are down and the players written knows that

437
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Speaker 1: this isn't just a rep in practice, this is a game,

438
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Speaker 1: and I think that changes the level of evaluation. I

439
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Speaker 1: think the coaches love these games. I think they really do.

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Speaker 1: I think they may not say I think they love

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Speaker 1: the evaluation of these games. They want to see their guys.

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Speaker 1: And that's why these young guys and notoriously all the

443
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Speaker 1: young guys that get a chance to play in this game.

444
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Speaker 1: Like we were talking, we're laughing with Catalan yesterday. Keith

445
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Speaker 1: Winning was the quarterback for the Bills two years ago

446
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Speaker 1: in the fourth preseason game. I did not remember his name,

447
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Speaker 1: you know. So guys like that they get a chance

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Speaker 1: to it. And I'm not saying that that's why this

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Speaker 1: game is so some guy off the street can come

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Speaker 1: in and get it one game as an NFL player

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. I'm saying these coaches want to know,

452
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Speaker 1: they want to know about these guys, and they love

453
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Speaker 1: these games after they're over and everything, but it comes

454
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Speaker 1: out healthy. A tweet from Wandering Jack his suggestion to

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Speaker 1: tweet preseason go to an eighteen game regular season, remove

456
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Speaker 1: two preseason games prior to preseason. Each team gets one

457
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Speaker 1: week of practice with another team comment and eating in

458
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Speaker 1: a controlled scrimmage that could be televised. The league still

459
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Speaker 1: gets twenty events and the team's organized a practice event.

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Speaker 1: I guess, so, um, eighteen game regular season, you're all

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Speaker 1: right with that. You've you've proposed that a couple of times. Well,

462
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Speaker 1: they've got two bye weeks, so what they would they

463
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Speaker 1: would have two bye weeks built into it. I would

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Speaker 1: think that changes things that listen. When you're in a

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Speaker 1: regular season game, you're sixteen game schedule, that bye week off,

466
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Speaker 1: that week off is an eternity. It feels like a big,

467
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Speaker 1: big vacation. It's a great way for these guys to

468
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Speaker 1: take their foot off the gas and have the stress

469
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Speaker 1: lifted from him from a walk for a while. And

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Speaker 1: I think it is a good idea if you could,

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Speaker 1: and like I said, if you went to an eighteen

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Speaker 1: game schedule, say we were playing the regular second regular

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Speaker 1: season game right now with a week off coming up,

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Speaker 1: and I mean that a complete week off around on

475
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Speaker 1: the league, where you know the lights go out for

476
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Speaker 1: a week and get let the players just leave. And

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Speaker 1: that means all the offseason, all the preseason, and all

478
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Speaker 1: that stuff can go away for just a week. You

479
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Speaker 1: can go you can go home, you can visit people,

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Speaker 1: you can go on a vacation, go to resort, whatever,

481
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Speaker 1: or you can just go into a dark room and

482
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Speaker 1: sleep for a week. That's a huge stress relief for

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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. And I think it would

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Speaker 1: I think the players would wouldn't mind doing that now.

485
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Speaker 1: But a particular there's league wide, the injuries that would

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Speaker 1: occur in an eighteen game regular season as opposed to

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Speaker 1: sixteen games, the wear and tear. Um, that's what they

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Speaker 1: said about the sixteen game schedule when they went from fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Well so there's no limit. Yeah, listen, no, I mean, listen, Um,

490
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Speaker 1: it's a risk. But these guys, I mean, and I

491
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Speaker 1: know as a player, I signed up for it. If

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna give us two extra regular season games,

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Speaker 1: that's a twelve percent, twelve plus percent increase in the

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Speaker 1: amount of stuff the game games were playing. The TV people,

495
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Speaker 1: it's a twelve percent increase in the money they pay,

496
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Speaker 1: and it's a twelve percent increase right away in the

497
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Speaker 1: salary cap. So the salary cap would go up to

498
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Speaker 1: over two hundred million bucks in about twelve hours because

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Speaker 1: of that, and the players salaries would be commensurate with

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Speaker 1: that they get paid for it. Yeah. Again, my point

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Speaker 1: on eighteen games would be a new You need a

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Speaker 1: new CBA to do that. Yeah, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: wait that. It's not easy. Yeah, yeah, it wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: an easy you know what I told And if you

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Speaker 1: laugh at me because now you're talking about watering down

506
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Speaker 1: the product, I think a couple of those games should

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Speaker 1: be developmental games. A couple of regular season games. I

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Speaker 1: think if you're everybody or something, if the yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you're worried about guys getting hurt, tell them that every player,

510
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Speaker 1: including the Drew Brees is Tom Brady's, Eli Mannings and

511
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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers of the world, they can only play in

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Speaker 1: sixteen of the games. And that goes for you know,

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Speaker 1: Farrell Edmund or Termaine Edmonds, it goes for all those

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Speaker 1: guys at some point during the year because let's see it,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, during a regular season, the chances of

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Speaker 1: a player in the NFL getting injured are one percent.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that was true when I played. It's one

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Speaker 1: percent from Stephen Haushka and the kicker and the punter

519
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Speaker 1: all the way through to the offensive guard. Every guy

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Speaker 1: on the roster is gonna get hurt. That's the way

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Speaker 1: it is now. Some of those guys, you know, with

522
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Speaker 1: a if you got a linebacker with a broken pinky,

523
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Speaker 1: he's gonna pretty much gonna play with that. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: tap it up and it's not gonna bother him too much.

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Speaker 1: But then there are other times where you get a

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Speaker 1: knee and you're out for the rest of the season

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Well, having that where there's gonna be two

528
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Speaker 1: game knowing there's gonna be at least one or two

529
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Speaker 1: weeks during the season where you really probably should sit down,

530
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Speaker 1: you can set them down now with an injury and

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Speaker 1: have it come off the top of their thing. And

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Speaker 1: I don't. And I think that's in response to that.

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Speaker 1: You could raise the roster limit to you know, fifty

534
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Speaker 1: guys on game day and it would respond to that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair to We've talked about this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to ticket holders. To ticket buyers. Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Tom Brad's just as fair as it

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Speaker 1: is now. No. No, Oh, by the way, tom Brady

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Speaker 1: is healthy pay week. No, that's not true. That's not true.

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Speaker 1: It's not fair. That's not what would happen. What would happen?

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's got a knee that's bothering him and he

542
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Speaker 1: needs a week off. What if he's healthy, he's not.

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Speaker 1: What if he's fairly healthy, fairly healthy, He's not healthy

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Speaker 1: enough for me. Guys play that way all the time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that's right. You see that now, you're

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Speaker 1: you're the one who doesn't care. Guys play hurt all

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Speaker 1: the time. Who cares? Get him out there? I'm talking

548
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Speaker 1: about real injury, dude, it happens all the time. That

549
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Speaker 1: would not work. It's not fair to television viewers. It

550
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Speaker 1: would really water down the productor too much. Oh, this

551
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Speaker 1: is the week where Brady doesn't play. This is the

552
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Speaker 1: week where for a lot of people, I think, and

553
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Speaker 1: make it more interesting. Who fans who want to see

554
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Speaker 1: their team be Listen, you don't think that Cleveland Browns

555
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: would have loved to play one of their games with

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Speaker 1: the other team not having their starting quarterback. Yeah, they'd

557
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: like to play a lesser team. Yeah, yeah, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you I don't have a big problem with I got

559
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Speaker 1: a huge problem with that. But that's a different issue.

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Speaker 1: That's well, no, it's the same kind of it's the

561
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Speaker 1: same issue. Let's fix this. Let's fix it this preseason

562
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Speaker 1: and make it. Make it the same, make it eighteen

563
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Speaker 1: game schedule just as safe as a sixteen game schedule

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Speaker 1: for the players. By having a worst competitive product, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're now, you're now. You're not gonna water down the

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Speaker 1: product to promote to protect product preseason I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: what that's the preseason we have now is businesses. Businesses,

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Speaker 1: businesses all the time make make sacrificial decisions about the

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Speaker 1: product so that they can protect the money, protect their workers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. You're you're off, you're off.

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Speaker 1: You're off on a tangent. You're off on a tent,

572
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Speaker 1: throwing your same logic right back. Yeah, no, no you're not.

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Speaker 1: You're saying Teweiser. Budweiser won't use poor hops to make

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Speaker 1: a good beer. The NFL won't put injured players out

575
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Speaker 1: there just to get ratings. No, it's the same logic. No,

576
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Speaker 1: it's not. Because there's a between preseason football and regular

577
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Speaker 1: season football and the NFL currently right now, puts out

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Speaker 1: an inferior product in preseason. I'm saying, let's eliminate some

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Speaker 1: of that, get rid of that product. It doesn't do

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Speaker 1: anybody any good regular season. You know, you're having a

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Speaker 1: hard time seeing the difference in what you're saying and

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And because yours is just the preseason,

583
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: and mind actually counts right, you don't want to inferior

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Speaker 1: product in regular season, and I think you've got to.

585
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Speaker 1: You've got your stamp on an NFL product in preseason.

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Speaker 1: That's you're putting. You're putting the emphasis on a top

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Speaker 1: quality product on the field in the preseason. And I'm saying,

588
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Speaker 1: let's not, let's not use our workforce just to get ratings. Well,

589
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: of course they are every week there. It's not a

590
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Speaker 1: public benefit here. You played, don't. I don't think they

591
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Speaker 1: use you to get ratings. They get revenue. I was compensated, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get it. Well, break Andrew Catalan say, anybody to

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Speaker 1: join us. He'll call the play by play of the

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Speaker 1: Bills game tonight on the Bills Television network. So come

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Speaker 1: on back to that one. Bills Live from Chicago on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio Welcome Back, Welcome Back one Bills Live

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Speaker 1: from Chicago from the JW. Mary At Hotel in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker joined by Andrew Catalan, the play

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Speaker 1: by play voice of the Bills. Television network. Calls are

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Speaker 1: from the NFL on CBS. Good to see Andrew. How

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Speaker 1: you doing your man? We missed you last week. You

602
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Speaker 1: picked a good game to miss though. I think I

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Speaker 1: know ironically, I was here for the Chiefs against the Bears,

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Speaker 1: so I've already seen the Bears once this preseason. We're

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Speaker 1: going to see him again. Uh huh. What do you

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Speaker 1: expect to see tonight from the Bears and the Bills?

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Speaker 1: What are you looking for? Well, I think there's still

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Speaker 1: a massive quarterback question for Buffalo, and I you know,

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Speaker 1: it seems like AJ McCarron will be able to go

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Speaker 1: out there and throw today. Today. He returned to practice Monday.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott said that he's feeling pretty good and look,

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Speaker 1: he needs to have a good night. I think there's

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Speaker 1: still so much unsettled with the quarterback situation. So if

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Speaker 1: AJ McCarron is able to go, I mean that's that's

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Speaker 1: priority number one. From what I want to see what

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Speaker 1: about from the Bears. As you said, you saw him

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Speaker 1: last week. What are you looking for from them? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean last Saturday, or actually four days ago. Now.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even play their starters in their third preseason game. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is a team that played in the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame game, new head coach. They had an extra mini

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Speaker 1: camp back in the spring, so they've practiced more than

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Speaker 1: any other team. I don't think the Bears are going

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Speaker 1: to do much of anything tonight in terms of playing

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Speaker 1: their starters. I mean, they didn't play him last week.

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Speaker 1: I can't see how they're going to play them again today.

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Speaker 1: And the Bill is not likely to play many starters too,

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Speaker 1: which takes us steave to our topic, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: this one we're talking it seems as though, and the

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Speaker 1: league is really good about it. They I mean, they

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Speaker 1: share information with team to team, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: these teams have the same philosophy. And this preseason is

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Speaker 1: a kind of a throwaway for all the guys who

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Speaker 1: are actually going to play any significant time in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. All your starters, you're significant players, You're important players.

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Speaker 1: The LaShaun McCoy's of the world and Kyle Williams of

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Speaker 1: the world. All these guys that are really going to

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Speaker 1: take a lot of reps and kind of be the

639
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Speaker 1: bell cowry your offense or your defense or what have you.

640
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Speaker 1: They don't they take what a handful of reps. Sure,

641
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: through a month of practice and all that. And I

642
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: get the practices between games are important and all that,

643
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Speaker 1: But by the same token, it seems as though all

644
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, all the way around the league, something

645
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: needs to be done. In the league's looking at it,

646
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: going we got to change this. Well, these joint practices

647
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: now become very popular. From everything you hear right that

648
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: these teams really get a lot out of an early

649
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: August joint practice or a mid August joint practice with

650
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: another team. So to that end, I would have everyone

651
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: have a joint practice. I would play three preseason games

652
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: instead of four, wrap up the preseason earlier than ten

653
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: days before for some teams, a week before the regular season.

654
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: And that's the way I would do it. Now, well,

655
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be obviously weird because then one

656
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: team is gonna get an extra home game with the gate,

657
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: and that's that's gonna pose a problem. But I just

658
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: feel that you need to wrap up the preseason this

659
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: game tonight. Um, if you're a paying ticket season ticket holder,

660
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: that's a tough sell. And it was a tough sell

661
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: for Bears fans last week when when you thought they

662
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: would actually play their starters and none of the guys played.

663
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: That is the big problem that I have if I'm

664
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Speaker 1: a season ticket holder paying money to watch this game. Now,

665
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: I think you guys were talking about it before, and

666
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: I heard there is a lot of value for the

667
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: coaching staff in this game. I think it's very important

668
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: for the organization to have this game, but as a fan,

669
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: it can be tough. Is there any way that you

670
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: can see the owners moving to change this? Um? You

671
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: know they make money on these games. You know, Soldier Field,

672
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: they'll sell beers. They're so hot dogs tonight. The game's

673
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: on TV and Buffalo and Chicago. It's on radio and

674
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo and Chicago. There's money to be made here. But

675
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: my contention is I think Steve somewhat agrees with me,

676
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: although we got lost in another issue. But my contention

677
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: is they have to sacrifice. Owners might have to sacrifice

678
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: a little bit to preserve the quality of the product

679
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: and preserve their brand. Unless the joint practices become in

680
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: a stadium setting and you can maybe make that your

681
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: other home game. Maybe that's one idea. I just look,

682
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: I love the preseason. I love being with you guys.

683
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: This is a lot of fun for me. Is great.

684
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: I enjoy it. But we're all happy. Yeah, it's you know,

685
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: it's a good thing. By the way, you and I

686
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: and Steve, we all make money on preseason football. There's

687
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people that make money on preseason football.

688
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: But I feel like the injury part of it, especially

689
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: so close to the regular season, is another big factor.

690
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why who knows how many of the starters,

691
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: if any, the Bills will play today. You can't afford

692
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: to have a guy go down ten days before the season.

693
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: So what's the chance that the owners look at this,

694
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: the league looks at this before we get to the

695
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: CBA and says we got to change something. I think

696
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: when I remember a few years ago, Rex didn't even

697
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: play his starters in the third preseason game. Now more

698
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: and more coaches, like we talked about the Bears are

699
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: not playing in the third preseason game. That was at

700
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: least the one game where you're like, all right, I'm

701
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna see these guys for the first half. Obviously the

702
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: Bills did that Sunday. If that goes away, and if

703
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: teams are even scared to play their starters for the

704
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: first half of the third preseason game, I think that

705
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: is when the owners really have to say, all right,

706
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? All right, you have a solution.

707
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: You did it years three games, joint practice, in three

708
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: preseason step in the right direction, right, Yeah, I started

709
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: evolving towards it, and I get it, but I think

710
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: they need to And I'm I don't know if you've

711
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: heard this because you got here and we're listening to

712
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: our debate about mine. I did hear it, my brilliant idea,

713
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: But I think they knew you started evolving towards it.

714
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: But I think the issue is the CBA. They can't

715
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: do it by them, so it's not they're not in

716
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: a vacuum. The players have got to have a say

717
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: in it. The owners are certainly going to have something

718
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: to say about it. But also, you know this, expanding

719
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: the regular season to eighteen games, I think that's an

720
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: enormous step. They've done it before. They did it from

721
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: fourteen games to sixteen games forty years ago. It was

722
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: forty years ago. Think of how the brutal the game

723
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: was then compared to what is now. If you go

724
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: back and watch those games in the seventies. Oh my gosh, yeah,

725
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: I see. I don't see that happening with all of

726
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: the focus on safety. I can't. Maybe a few years

727
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: ago I could see it. And I always thought they

728
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: wanted to make the Super Bowl President's Day weekend in

729
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: February so that everyone didn't have to work the next day.

730
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: So I always thought they were trying to get there.

731
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: In the eighteen game season may have got them to

732
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: that point. Now I don't see that anymore. I can't

733
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: see them adding two more games. As much as the

734
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: money would change for the players and the owners and everyone,

735
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: I get that, but I think that would be a

736
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: hard sell to the players if they only has still

737
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: only had to play sixteen games each. See, I'm not

738
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: going down that road with you. He's I've heard it.

739
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: Please help me out. I have to fight this all

740
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: the he wants. Here's the thing, Andrew and I worked

741
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: with CBS for a number of years together, and I've

742
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: gotten I've sprung all my brilliant ideas I haven't. Yeah,

743
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of them, and I've heard them

744
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: many times. Andrew has I rolled me more time than

745
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: the murf has. That's not true. I'm just getting warmed

746
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: up with the iron. Yeah, you don't want to answer.

747
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to respond to that because you won't.

748
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: He won't. Let go with it. Sixteen play sixteen and

749
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: an eighteen game schedule. Steve has become honestly one of

750
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: my best friends. I love the man so much, but

751
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: I have learned that I'm not going down that road

752
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: with him. That that's what our friendship is. Andrew Catalan

753
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: from the NFL on CBS joins us he'll call the

754
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: game tonight on television. The Bills and the Chicago Bears.

755
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: Do you want to tak tweak preseason? Let us know

756
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: what you gotta mind, give us a call eight oh

757
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight

758
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's try to

759
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: get a call on it, all right, Let and take

760
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: the call. John and Elma go ahead, John, Yeah, Hey,

761
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: I totally agree with Steve. I mean, you can increase

762
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: You're adding those two games and eliminating the preseason, you

763
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: could increase your player roster to say sixty guys. You'd

764
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: be adding you're getting more to the players, and you

765
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: would also um have a stipulation there that you're you

766
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: can only play, you know, to worry about injuries. You

767
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 1: can only play sixteen games a year. And that makes

768
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback more important. It makes every backup more important,

769
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: and it makes it you know, more of the team

770
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: atmosphere and yes, you're gonna you know, you're you're a

771
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: good quarterback. You know, it's almost like fantasy football. You

772
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: you sent him if you think he's a little banged

773
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: up for that week and hoping that he doesn't get

774
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: injured later on, so you know it kids a little more. Yeah,

775
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: I know, I hear you. Hypothetical, John, you have tickets

776
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: to the Bills Saints game in Orchard Park and through

777
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: four days before the game, the Saints announced, because they

778
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: can do it under Steve's flann, Drew Brees won't be

779
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: playing tonight. Tom Savage will be starting quarterback for us.

780
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: Are you good with that? I'm absolutely fine with this.

781
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: If you found what if you found out six days before?

782
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: What if what if you're a season ticket holder what

783
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: if you are. I'd be mad to see the Hall

784
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: of Famer Drew Brees. I don't want to see you

785
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: know the story, and listen, listen. Here's the thing. It

786
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: would become less of an issue the further you get

787
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: away from doing it. People would understand that's part of

788
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: the deal. I think you'll be treating your customers with

789
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: a certain amount of disdain. Well, I think the customers

790
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: would understand that you're trying to make sure your players

791
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: don't end up cripples when they're a fifth place sixteen

792
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: GA eight years. You know it's really a sixteen game schedule.

793
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: You don't need eighteen games. You don't need eighteen games.

794
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: You don't need these when buy sixteen tickets and don't

795
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: go to them. This NBC is doing Sunday Night Football.

796
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: They have the Packers and they have the Patriots, and

797
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: they're blowing that this is gonna be a huge game

798
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: for our ratings. And before the game, both coaches say

799
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady aren't playing. You think NBC

800
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be happy with that. You think that the

801
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: NFL would be happy that how many things in the game,

802
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: how many times they have to put up with it. Anyway,

803
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: when Tom Brady rolls his ankle or Drew Brees you know,

804
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: has a shoulder, is remove of the guy from the game. No,

805
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: but that's what they would wait for to happen, so

806
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: the guy doesn't go out there limping trying to trying

807
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: to help his team win. I think it makes it

808
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: take the games that much safer for these guys and

809
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: listen games and listen Lee, He's gonna listen. I know you.

810
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: We talk about Tom Brady all the time and how hey,

811
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go And you got this Norman Rockwell view

812
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: of how this little boy has waited for the entire

813
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: year to had this one weekend where he's gonna go

814
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: see his favorite players pretty play that happens. No, it

815
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. That's a joke that that is. And and

816
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: I get it, though, I get it. You do go

817
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: to the game and it's a big event and you

818
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: go and thinks tom Brady's not even gonna play. I

819
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: get that. But here's the thing. You got these players.

820
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is gonna leave the game and what two

821
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: or three years maybe let's say he's got a couple

822
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: of years left. The game's gonna go on and then

823
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be other players that kake over. And I'll

824
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: tell you what. The teams need to find a way

825
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: to get young quarterbacks on the field. They need to

826
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: find a way to do it. I could make the

827
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: point that there would be more injuries under your system. Okay,

828
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: today are starting left tackles not playing, so now we

829
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: can't protect the quarterbacks. So now in theory, you have

830
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: your backup left tackle trying to protect Tom Brady. In

831
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: your scenario, that could lead to more injuries if you

832
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: have now backups playing a more prominent role in a

833
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: game like that, And I know the callers said, you know,

834
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: then you got to focus on your depth. Your backup

835
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: quarterback becomes more important. But in a way, you could

836
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: have more injuries that way. Yeah, I mean there's you

837
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: could make that argument. Every time the left tackles playing

838
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: with a bad ankle, which they all do. You know,

839
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: you can get these in some ways in some respects

840
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: would make the game safer for these guys. Plus it

841
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: would keep players from trying to go when they shouldn't

842
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: go and leading to those injuries. Anyway, I mean, guys

843
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: still try and play, you know, Andrew Camelon joins us

844
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: from the NFL on CBS. He's got the call of

845
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: the game tonight on TV. I got I gotta pile

846
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: I go down this thing. Yeah, because I think it's

847
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: a I think it's a great idea and I'm not

848
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: letting it go. And I promise I'll drag this rabbit hole.

849
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: Can you guys, your logic does not hold up to

850
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: my keen intellect. That's all I Yeah, that's it. That's problem.

851
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: Andrew September nine, Bills at Baltimore. Who do you figure

852
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: we'll be starting a quarterback for Buffalo that day? And

853
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: what do you think of their chances that day and

854
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: through the season. Look, I don't have any inside information,

855
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: but if I had to pick right now, I'd say

856
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman will be the starter. I think that he

857
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: has been the best quarterback this summer, both the training

858
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: camp and in the games. If it's just a straight competition,

859
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: I think he won the competition. Now do the Bills

860
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: want to do something different? That may happen, but they

861
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: see it the same way, even correct that's possible. Yeah, absolutely,

862
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: I would think that Peter Mental start Week one in Baltimore.

863
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: It's interesting too, because every time you sit down with

864
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot and we have these production means with him,

865
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: the first questions aren't you know, what's the story of

866
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and stuff? And he and he talked to him.

867
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: I really don't think they have made their decision now.

868
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: I think he might have an idea about it, but

869
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: I still think there's a lot of things that they

870
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: want to see before they say, Okay, this is who

871
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: we're going with on opening Day. They have not completely

872
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: made up their minds. They starting to get an idea

873
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: of who these guys are. And I certainly think the

874
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: way Josh Allen played last week against Cincinnati said some

875
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: things about his readiness to be a starter on opening day. McCarron,

876
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you put into the fact

877
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: that he you know, he had got injured in the

878
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland game and it wasn't going well in those first

879
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: few series, much like like Allen against Cincinnati. So how

880
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: much do you throw into that mix. That's why I

881
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: think tonight, actually, for a fourth preseason game, has a

882
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: lot more meaning for the Bills than previous fourth games

883
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: when the Keith Winnings of the world were playing. I mean,

884
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: I think This is a big night for AJ McCarron.

885
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: Is he gonna win the Bills job? Is he gonna

886
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: be on the Bills roster? I mean, I think there's

887
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways that AJ McCarron could go

888
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: based on his performance tonight. We're all three, three of

889
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: us at a production meeting with Sean McDermot yesterday, and

890
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: he got talking about something that I was I found

891
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: interesting and I was almost inspired by it, as you know,

892
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: listening to a coach stock when he started talking about

893
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: how important it was for this game for him, he

894
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: and Brandon being in the personnel people to learn about

895
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: these players, these guys who will play tonight, most of

896
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: them not likely to be starters for the Bills, but

897
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: they want to know everything they can about these people.

898
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: I thought that was a really good point that never

899
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: really occurred to me. They yeah, there'd be down the

900
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: roster guys, there'll be some guys will be you know,

901
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: mister fifty one, fifty two, fifty three and the roster,

902
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: and yet they want to use this game to learn

903
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: more about what makes those players tick and how they

904
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: can help because on game day, those guys are gonna

905
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: be forty three forty four and forty five on the

906
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: roster activated, and they want to know what they can do.

907
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: Can they plug the guy into punt return? Can they

908
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: get some help so that they can take, you know,

909
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds off of that, so he can be fresher

910
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: going against his running game that his other team has earned.

911
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: That you know, it's a it's a real mix of

912
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: skill sets that they're trying to build into what they're

913
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: going to look like on game day. And I think

914
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: that look changes week tweak depending on who's available, and

915
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: they got to know who those guys are. And also look,

916
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: I think the Bills have nailed it with Sean McDermott

917
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean who, by the way, Bean will join

918
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: us in the television booth tonight during the coverage of

919
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: the television broadcast tonight, so we're looking forward to that.

920
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: But these guys from day one have talked about culture

921
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: and finding the right culture and getting players with the

922
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: right DNA and that adds to their evaluation process, which

923
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: I think they're looking for tonight. Who's going to give

924
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: it there all in the fourth quarter of a game

925
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: when the clock's just running. I mean, that is the

926
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: type of players they want to have on this team.

927
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: So I think they have the right people in place

928
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: and they will make the right decisions to lead this organization.

929
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: And there is a professional play by play man. Is

930
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: tonight's game the most difficult game you'll do this year? Well,

931
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: honestly it might be, right, could be, yeah, you know

932
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: in a way. In a way, no, I would say

933
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: maybe the first or second preseason game, because then everyone

934
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: plays at least tonight. You know that the starters aren't

935
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: gonna play, so there's fewer people that will be on

936
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: the field. But in terms of keeping the drama of

937
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: the game going, I yeah, I feel I do not

938
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: see high drama in this game. Well, don't let him

939
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: bring up his idea about sixteen game. Yeah, it's interesting

940
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: too because we have to. We asked if we could

941
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: get granted being to come up if he wanted to

942
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: come up into the booth Force and I and to

943
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: your point about you think Buffalo nailed it with Sean

944
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: McDermot Brandon being, I agree with you. We asked him,

945
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: you know some of the times you ask him as

946
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: you know, there's there anything I mean, because we want

947
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: to have a free flowing conversations because the booth there

948
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: anything we can't talk about, any subject we can't talk about,

949
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: and he is now you can ask me anything. And

950
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, that's a guy who in order

951
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: to they know what they're doing. I mean, he's not

952
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: afraid to talk. And that's why I said, I'm gonna

953
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: ask him. First thing I'm asking him about is Killio

954
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: Mack why he is in the Buffalo Beal Bill and

955
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: then ask him. You know, we're gonna ask him about

956
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: all all the questions that everybody wants to know. I'm

957
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna spring those on him in the four he's watching now.

958
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: Then there will be restricted Yeah. Hell, by the way

959
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: I changed, by the way Khalil max off the table,

960
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: I can't ask him about that, and you can't ask

961
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: him about yeah. Andrew, thanks every great broadcast. Thank you,

962
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: thanks so much, appreciate it. Thank You'll be covering the

963
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: game with Steve on the television side. We've got the

964
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: radio coverage as well. Stick around more to come. Steve

965
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: and I returned One Bill's Live from Chicago on Buffalo

966
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Hello, Welcome back to One Bill's Live, One

967
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: Doll's Live, presented by Khalida Hell from One Bill's drive,

968
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: John Burp, Steve Tasker. We're in the j W. Mary.

969
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: We're in a nice room, a nice meeting room here

970
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: in the fourth fourth Steve, I could have slept in

971
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: here if there was a cop I mean, this is bigger.

972
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: I bet that is a hell up. It's like three

973
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: or four times the size of my room. Is there

974
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: a television, Yes, there's a television. Everything you need? Nice?

975
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: It really is a nice little kitchen over here. Yeah,

976
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: huge conference room here here. We can stick around for

977
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: a week or so through a team party in here.

978
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: We're talking about preseason. What do you do with it?

979
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: Let's take a phone call from Mike and Albuquerque. Hello, Mike,

980
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: you're on the air with this go ahead. Hey, how

981
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: are you doing? Guys? Listen? I turned the TV on

982
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: a little late today to watch the show, and I

983
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: caught you, you and Steve in the middle of your

984
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: of your little tift, and I gotta tell you that

985
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: was more riveting than this game is going to be tonight,

986
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: just to watch. Why don't do that instead? Let's do

987
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: that instead? Yeah, Stephen to go out to the fifty

988
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: yard nine and argue about having on my podiums two

989
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: podiums microphones, banners and bunting. Yes, me and Murph talking

990
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: about the pros and cons of the eighteen game schedule.

991
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: What else is on your mind? I think get nothing.

992
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: He's gone. Here's a call from Lou in his car.

993
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Lou is that you Yes, it is? How you doing, guys? Okay?

994
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: My statement is this question the follow who if you think?

995
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm tired of seeing John Miller X guard.

996
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's just starting NFL guard. But wouldn't

997
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: we better better off moving Groy to guard? But Bodi

998
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: and at Cunner because I think Roy is a better

999
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: guard than Miller. We got to shore up this line

1000
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: and we have a problem. That's the left tackle. If

1001
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: Mills goes down, I mean, getting your opinion on that

1002
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: he's right tackle. Mills is right tackle. Yeah, and the

1003
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: judge Mcca Yeah, look on that offensive line. Yeah. Here's

1004
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: the thing. Here's the thing, Lou and I get it.

1005
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: One of the problems they had with INCA and against

1006
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: says Cincinnati and some of the things that they've been

1007
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: moving these guys around. They're doing exactly what you're trying.

1008
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: They're finding what they what they're you know, they kind

1009
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: of said they're doing. They're moving Groy to both guard spots.

1010
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: They're moving Bodine to center, and a couple of guard spots.

1011
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: They're moving John Miller and vlad Duke cost to both sides.

1012
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: They're moving these all those guys, all both guards and

1013
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: the center are switching all the time. I think that's

1014
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: one of the issues they've had with their inability to

1015
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: pick up the right guy. Now that says nothing about

1016
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen all of these guys. I mean,

1017
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: you take your pick at different times during this preseason,

1018
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: in different games. Each guy's got beat one on one.

1019
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: I mean even Dion Dawkins, I mean, Miles Garrett's beating

1020
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in one on one. Plus, they're

1021
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: not game planning to give either one of the tackles

1022
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: any help. They're not chip blocking these guys. They're not

1023
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: putting tight ends over the top of them, or at

1024
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: least if they do, they're the tight ends are releasing

1025
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: and not helping them out on their pass rusher. So

1026
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going on, and and the

1027
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: fact and I get that, you know, you think maybe

1028
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: John Miller can't play, or he's not going to be

1029
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: a good guard. You may you may be right on

1030
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: certain plays. He may have stunk on a handful of

1031
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: plays during one stretch of a game, but that doesn't

1032
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: mean that that's the entire evaluation. And the coaching staff

1033
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: has seen him play. And last year there's no question

1034
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: they put vlad Duke Costs in uh instead of John Miller.

1035
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: And now John Miller has come back and bounce back,

1036
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: tried to win that job back, and with the departure

1037
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: of Richie Incognito and Eric Wood, you know he's in

1038
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: the mix. So I'm with you, there's no question we

1039
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: have I don't think they've maybe they have. I don't

1040
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: know if they've settled on the exact five. They're gonna

1041
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: be there in that spot, go ahead, but they were

1042
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: switching them around a lot last week, and I think

1043
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: that led to some problems. So we'll see, and I

1044
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: get it. But if they think Groy and Bodine are

1045
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: a better center guard combination than Groy and Miller, you

1046
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: can bet they're gonna make that switch. But until they

1047
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: do that, you can bet that they don't believe that's

1048
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: the rate. I think starting five is settled, and I

1049
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: think we all know who it is. Deon Dawkins is

1050
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: going to be the left tackle, and Ladd Costs is

1051
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: gonna be left guard, and probably Groy at center center,

1052
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: John Miller at right guard, and Jordan Mills at right tackle. Um,

1053
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: I hear your concerns. I know what you're talking about.

1054
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: I am more concerned. I gotta say about lad Ducas,

1055
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: then it would be about John Miller. But the fact

1056
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: that we can trade off is a bad shot. They

1057
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: have not played well in the preseason. They really haven't.

1058
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. It's a new offense and

1059
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: they're asking these guys for a skill set that fits

1060
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Speaker 1: this offense, not the one they had a year ago.

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00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: They have not played as well as you'd like them too,

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Speaker 1: although I did see signs when Marcus Murphy and and

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00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: uh Chris Ivory were in the game last week. They

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00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: ran the ball pretty well at times against the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: But there there's been a roller coaster. They've been really

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00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: good at times or good at times, and they have

1067
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: stunk at other times, and it was at times there's

1068
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 1: just been too much of the ladder. Tonight, you're gonna

1069
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: be able to evaluate some of the backup offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Then Chris Brown has posted a couple of articles up

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00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot com talking about who to watch tonight.

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Speaker 1: We'll get with Chris when we come back after the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour of break. Come on back for more.

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Speaker 1: Two hours ago one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health

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Speaker 1: from Chicago from the J. W. Murrayott Hotel in downtown Chicago,

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio Boils Radio Network Stories date.

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Speaker 1: It is the preseason finale for the Bills tonight here

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00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: in Chicago to play the Bears. Buffalo with plenty of

1079
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: issues to address in the ten days before they opened

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00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: the season of Baltimore, but not likely to get those

1081
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: issues cleaned up tonight. The Bills expected to keep most

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00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: of their starters on the sidelines. The Bears also they've

1083
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: been resting the first unit for much of their preseason schedule. A. J. McCarron,

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00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: who did not play less Sunday against the Bengals in

1085
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: Orchard Park, expected to have most of the working quarterback

1086
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: to night for Buffalo. The Bears say Tyler Bray will

1087
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: take every snap for them. Saturday cutdown Day in the NFL,

1088
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: the Bills thirty three players are released by four pm. Saturday,

1089
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: and then the opener in Baltimore September Night. Tonight, Bills

1090
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: in Chicago, eight o'clock kickoff from Soldier Field. I'll have

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00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: the call of the game with Mark Kelso and Sal

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00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: Capaccio on our flagship in Buffalo, gr Sports Radio five

1093
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: fifty on all over the Bills Radio Network. Aaron Rodgers

1094
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: signed his extension with the Green Bay Packers yesterday. The

1095
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: record breaking four year, one hundred thirty four million dollar

1096
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: extension could be worth up to one hundred and eighty

1097
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: million dollars in total money. Rogers will be forty years

1098
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: old when the deal expires after the twenty twenty three season.

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00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: The Jets clarified their quarterback situation yesterday, training Teddy Bridgewater

1100
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: and a twenty nineteen six round draft pick to the

1101
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: Saints for a twenty nineteen third round pick. It looks

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00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: like Sam Donald then will be the Jets Week one

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00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: starter against Detroit. Bridgewater found out about the trade and

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00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: boarded the team bus to say goodbye to his former

1105
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: Jets teammates, who were headed to Philadelphia for a game tonight.

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00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: The Raiders apparently are looking for at least two first

1107
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: round draft picks in any trade for Khalil Mack. That's

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00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: what NFL Network reported yesterday. The Raiders with no imminent

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00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: interest in dealing Mac, according to NFL Network and The

1110
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown said release linebacker Michael Kendricks after he was

1111
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: charged with insider training by federal prosecutors to make nearly

1112
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: one point two million dollars in illegal profits on four

1113
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: investments four years ago. And that is the update from Chicago,

1114
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: where the Bills are getting ready to play the Bears tonight.

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00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: Bust Dot Time, Welcome back to Chicago. Welcome back to

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00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: the j W. Merryott Hotel in downtown Chicago. John Murphy,

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00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: along with Steve cast your hour two of one Bills Live,

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00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: presented by Kalidah Health. We're joined by Bills Incenter from

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00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot Com. Chris Brown, Hello, Chris, thanks for

1120
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: being with us. We're doing okay. How are you? I'm okay,

1121
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm good, says Mike Up. I can't tell kid do again,

1122
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: chrism On, Am I here there? I see your Lipsmoon

1123
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: now I hear you. Okay. Uh, let's dive right in

1124
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: on our topic of the day. I know we got it.

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00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: You've written a couple of good pieces the website today

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00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: about players to watch tonight. Issues going into this game.

1127
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: As I said a minute ago, plenty of issues in

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00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: this game tonight. But the big issue for me, and

1129
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: this is my agenda. I it's partly my show, so

1130
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: it's partly my agenda preseason. What are we going to

1131
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: do about it? I asked Sean McDermott last night, coach,

1132
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: where's pre Where are we going with NFL preseason? He goes,

1133
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I don't know where it's going.

1134
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: Where do you think it's going. What's the problem. It's

1135
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: not in a good place right now. I think the

1136
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: problem here is there is such a concern for player

1137
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: availability become the regular season, and when you get to

1138
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: the last two games, you've just you've got an availability

1139
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: thing that trumps everything else. It's trumping preparation for the

1140
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 1: regular season. It's trumping you know what you're gonna put

1141
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: out there on the field in terms of scheming. Yeah, evaluation,

1142
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: the whole nine, because what counts are the regular season games.

1143
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: And when you see coaches getting fired after a year

1144
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: or two, and part of the problem that maybe they

1145
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: encountered in that second year where maybe they were supposed

1146
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: to win a lot more, or that was the expectation,

1147
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: and they didn't have their star wide receiver for eight

1148
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: games because they played him in the third preseason game

1149
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: for three quarters and he blew out a knee. They're

1150
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: not going to play those guys, so and this is

1151
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: how bad it's gotten. It's bad to the point now

1152
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: where not only are the players not even playing in

1153
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: the final preseason game so it turns into this glorified

1154
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: JV game, they're not even traveling. The Packers led Aaron

1155
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: Rodgers and a whole slew of starters stay home for

1156
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: their last preseason game. So it's getting to we're reaching

1157
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: we've reached critical mass, and now the league executives and

1158
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: NFL clubs and ownership have to all sit down and

1159
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: figure out a better way to do this, because this

1160
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: is we've reached the point where it's not working, not

1161
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: only in terms of the product on the field, but

1162
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: just the functionality of what the preseason used to be

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00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: and what it is now. Well, here's two different things.

1164
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We've gotten to this place where we

1165
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: all have this for years and years through my career

1166
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: and subsequently up into the present day until a handful

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00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: of years ago, it was always like we've been saying,

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00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: and you hear all the things first preseason game, you

1169
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: start these guys in the second preseason game, maybe not

1170
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: so much, all the backups in the third preseason games

1171
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: addressed rehearsal. It got to the point where it was

1172
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: so the same every year. We've had these traditions, like

1173
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: the third preseason games when the starters play, because then

1174
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: you give them two weeks off in that fourth preseason

1175
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: game and they don't play like we are in this

1176
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: week all of a sudden, and I think that's why

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00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: we think it's critical masks around the league. All this

1178
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: has changed this year. Nothing is the same as it was.

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00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 1: They're not only they're not playing him in the first, second,

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00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: or third preseason game, they're not playing him in the

1181
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: fourth preseason and then all of a sudden happen those dude.

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00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: It's been trending this way for a couple of years,

1183
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: but this year, but some huge Chico well on with

1184
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers not even traveling their guys to

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00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: the God at all. So here's the thing. Yeah, neither

1186
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: hasn't played, Samiskey hasn't hasn't played. Yeah, he's taken like

1187
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: ten snaps. So it all of a sudden, the league

1188
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: is at a point where everybody's on the same page

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00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: with their roster and their preseason philosophy, and it's horrible.

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00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: It's horrible for the fans, it's horrible for the TV product,

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00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: and it's meaningless for all it's it's meaningless for all

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00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: the players who are actually going to play in two weeks.

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00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: It's meaningless for them. Yeah, so what are we gonna

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00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: do about it? We're asking listeners that today you can

1195
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: call it something. Let us know what you think. Eight

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Speaker 1: oh three, five fifty and toll free from Outside Buffalo

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You

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00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: should it be tweaked? And if so, what's your solution,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown? What's football? Flag? Football? I mean, I don't

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00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: know that there is an easy fix, but I think

1201
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: what you should do is the last preseason game, you know,

1202
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: for these teams should be a fair distance from the

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00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: first regular season in two weeks. Yeah, I think you

1204
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: you stretch that out, and then I think there are

1205
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: more coaches that are more apt to play their starters

1206
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: knowing they've got a full two week run up to

1207
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: the regular season, for anyone that God forbid gets injured,

1208
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: has time to recuperate, get healthy, and still be in

1209
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 1: your lineup week one. I think that would help. Beyond that,

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00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: maybe you have another preseason game the following week, or

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00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: some type of preseason scrimmage and you can play your

1212
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: your backups and your reserve players to get an extended

1213
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: look at them. But maybe you have those intra squad

1214
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: scrimmage type things, not a full blown preseason game where

1215
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: you're charging fans ticket prices that are the same to

1216
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: regular season games, when they're just going to be disappointed

1217
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: anyway because they're looking at a bunch of second The

1218
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: problem is this they need I think they need to

1219
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: extend this out because here's what happens if you if

1220
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: you start to condense it, like in these preseason games,

1221
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: you get a guy and I'm just I'm not saying

1222
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: anything about anything because we don't know, like a Brandon Riley.

1223
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you have these you condense the

1224
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: evaluation process into only one or two or three game window.

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00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: The kid has one really good game and all of

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00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: a sudden he's making the team and they need to

1227
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: know what he can do, not after he has a

1228
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: good game and after he has a bad game. They

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00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: want to evaluate him after he has a bad practice

1230
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,479
Speaker 1: and a good practice. They want to evaluate him week

1231
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: in week out, so that they know he's not just

1232
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: a kid who had two great catches in a practice

1233
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: and can't help him on game day. So they want

1234
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: to look at these guys week after week after week.

1235
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: And I said, and I said, when if we're talking

1236
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: about going to an eighteen game schedule or cutting down

1237
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: the preseason to two games, you got to give them

1238
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: more stuff in the offseason where they can actually evaluate

1239
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: these guys playing football, not just training. Like they came

1240
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: in and they were trying to get him in shape

1241
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: and see if they were in shape. In those OTAs.

1242
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: They couldn't they couldn't play seven on seven, they couldn't

1243
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: run past with the coaches on the field for a

1244
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: long time. You know, they're gonna have to give them

1245
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. Well, that's why I kind of

1246
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: think that those inner squad scrimmages, you you you run

1247
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: them through. You know, they're run by the league, they're

1248
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: organized by the league. They schedule it just like they

1249
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: would a preseason game. But it's it's either in one

1250
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: team's down or the other. You have officials, You run

1251
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: it like a regular game, and if fans want to

1252
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: show up and watch, come on in for free. You're

1253
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: talking about these are going to be second and third

1254
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: stringers that are playing in these games, so the teams

1255
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: can get their proper evaluations in a game setting. You're

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01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: not just talking about a scrimmage though, right You're talking

1257
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: about a week's worth of practice or four or five

1258
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: days of practice, like a joint practice leading up to scrimmage. Well,

1259
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to necessarily be a joint practice if

1260
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: teams don't want it to be. I don't think that's

1261
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: should be mandatory. If the if the two teams feel

1262
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 1: they can get more out of it, well then set

1263
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: that up on your own, you know, kind of like

1264
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: the Bills and Steelers did a couple of years ago.

1265
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: They set up two or three days of practice together

1266
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: in Latrobe and then they played the preseason game that Saturday.

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01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: Do you think you want to set that up? That's fine,

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Speaker 1: but I think the last two if you're gonna still have,

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Speaker 1: you know, a preseason that goes four weeks, those last

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Speaker 1: two weeks should be dedicated, you know, preseason scrimmage type

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Speaker 1: things that don't charge for tickets. If fans want to

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Speaker 1: show up at that stadium and watch the game, let

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Speaker 1: him in for free charge concessions. Do what you want,

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01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: but or just have it on a practice. Let let

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Speaker 1: it be known. Let it be known. This is this

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01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: is scrimmage type stuff. We're gonna run it like a

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Speaker 1: real game, but don't expect to see any starters out

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Speaker 1: there because it's not gonna happen here my plan. Would

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Speaker 1: you listen to my plan. I'll listen to your plan.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I love my plan. Okay, I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: do two games. Game one is the developmental game rookies,

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Speaker 1: first year, second year players, anybody else you want, but

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Speaker 1: young guys. A preseason game. Play it like a game.

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Speaker 1: Play it somewhere. Um. You have restrictions on how many

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Speaker 1: veterans are available to play. So there's where you evaluate

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01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: all your young guys. There's where you get them game experience.

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Speaker 1: And then one preseason game after that, Like we're a customer,

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Speaker 1: do now play one game sad week of August. The

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Speaker 1: second game the third week of August, two weeks before

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Speaker 1: the regular season begins. You have a developmental game you

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01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: have a regular preseason game and you have a Steveson

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Speaker 1: I would incorporate what you say about evaluation practices. Do

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01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: it in Ota many kids problem And here's the only problem.

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Speaker 1: Here's some problems. Just will tell you it's not enough

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01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: for an evaluation. Here's the problem. Sense the problem I

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01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: sense with your plan. Say, for instance, you've got this team, uh,

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Speaker 1: this hypothetical team who drafted a quarterback seventh overall and

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01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: they want to see get a look at him in

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01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: the prospect game. Do you put him out there behind

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01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: Joey bag of donuts at center. He's playing against Joey

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: Charlie Charlie Charlie six packet right guard and against similar players.

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Speaker 1: But then to get an evaluation on him clueless low

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01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: it right, clueless leewet, right tackle. You don't have to

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01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: go through the whole roster here, I get it. But

1305
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: then to help the kid, you put Kelvin. You want

1306
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: to put Kelvin Benjamin out at right end, and you

1307
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: want to put Zay Jones or Julio Jones or a J.

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01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: Green at the other side. You want to give the

1309
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: guy some receivers to play against. Well, the other guy

1310
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: goes out there the other coach says, we'll wait a minute,

1311
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna put the All right, I'm gonna put my

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01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: number one corners out there to work out. Yeah, you're

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01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: going down the slot. You're going down a slippery slope,

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01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: because then you're gonna put this guy, this, this. You're

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna put Baker Mayfield out on the field with guys

1316
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: who aren't gonna be in the NFL. If you like

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01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: what you see, you put them in the next game

1318
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: the next week, route him against the ones. What do

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Speaker 1: you gain by that? You talk like we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: sixteen games, that is a game, like we have this,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly the game we have got this, here's our

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Speaker 1: developmental game. But just the fit's a preseason now, how

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Speaker 1: do you not how do you not say that they're

1324
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: not advertising like they are now because they're charging regular

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01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: season prices, Well, they don't buy them. That's why I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: you have the league set up a schedule, but basically,

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Speaker 1: whether you wanted to reduce it to three games, I

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01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: don't think you can go any lower than three games

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01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: because I think coaches are gonna argue that there's not

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Speaker 1: enough time to have evaluate the back half of their rosters.

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Speaker 1: So first preseason game you can set it up like

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Speaker 1: you want to set it up. That's fine. Second preseason

1333
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: game can be the dress rehearsal where starters are eligible,

1334
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: third and fourth if you still want to go that far.

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01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: Those are just glorified scrimmages where it's only gonna be

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01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: second and third teamers out on the field, so coaches

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01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: can get a true evaluation of those guys as best

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01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: as possible. Fans don't have to buy tickets to those games.

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Speaker 1: They're welcome to show up at the stadium, come on in,

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Speaker 1: watch it. But no, you're gonna be watching the back

1341
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: half of the roster here. If you want to see that,

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01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: come on down what you're watching tonight. One of the

1343
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: things worth sixteen games tonight. One of the things one

1344
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: of the things we're forgetting about is the the AAFL

1345
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: American Association of Football Football that's gonna start in February

1346
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: and go through April and end the week before the draft.

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01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: That's kind of, I think, a brilliant idea about getting guys,

1348
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: and the problem is they're not going to be guys

1349
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: under contract with NFL teams are gonna be everybody else

1350
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the guys who are It's gonna be

1351
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: the the practice squad guys, the the futures contract guys.

1352
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be players who didn't hook up last year

1353
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: and missed an opportunity, or came off a bad injury,

1354
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: got injured during training camp, didn't get a chance to

1355
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: play in training camp, got cut as a result, come

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01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: back and get a chance to play. That's kind of

1357
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: I think maybe the way the league should evolve is

1358
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: to give these guys a chance to play somewhere else,

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01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: somewhere else they need. That was the mind that was

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01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: the thought behind NFL Europe. That was the thought behind

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01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: when back up fifteen twenty years ago, or maybe more

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Speaker 1: than that, when they had almost thirty CFL teams that

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01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: they the NFL was well deep in promoting. I was

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01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: filling in for stuff. I was filling in for murf

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Speaker 1: one day back in the spring or even earlier. And

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Speaker 1: sure it wasn't Steve. We had Jim Kelly. Well it

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01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: was it was pre Steve and we had Jim Kelly.

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01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: We had Jim Kelly on the show, was before us

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: and I was talking to Jim about a minor league

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Speaker 1: for football and because the announcement had come Alliance of

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Speaker 1: American Football blah blah blah, and I said, that is

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Speaker 1: what is sorely missing in the NFL. You do not

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01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: have a dedicated feeder system. Because what we were discussing

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01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: was how the college game and the pro game are

1375
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: are still separating. The difference in what is asked at

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Speaker 1: the college level from what's asked at the pro level

1377
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: is getting the gap is getting wider and wider and wider.

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01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: So you need you in the NFL. College You need

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01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: a minor league, a feeder system where guys are playing

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Speaker 1: what's asked for them in the pros pro style so

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01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: they can technically graduate to what NFL football is and

1382
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: be ready to execute the techniques and the responsibilities necessary

1383
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: for specific positions. So you need a feed a feeder league.

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01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: And so what we were talking and we were just

1385
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: we're spitballing, but it was really engaging stuff where maybe

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01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: you have teams, one team from each comm you have

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Speaker 1: an AFC team and an NFE team, work together with

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01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: one minor league club to fill out a roster and

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Speaker 1: this and that, or if you want to do thirty

1390
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: two and thirty two, that's fine, too. It's a big undertaking.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's going to just happen tomorrow, but

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Speaker 1: you need some type of feeder system because what that

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01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 1: can do is now you can alimb you can help

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01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: to reduce your preseason because you've got a whole spring

1395
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: slash summer to evaluate the talent you want to evaluate.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because you could do that exact thing by

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Speaker 1: having like having sister clubs like the Arizona Cardinals sistering

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Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, you take the bottom third

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Speaker 1: of your roster and Buffalo the bottom third of the roster.

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Speaker 1: In Arizona. You come to get practice, they come together,

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01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: they practice, they put together a team. You have sixteen

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01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: teams from each of the two right, you know, and

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: the bottom third of those two rosters come together for

1404
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: a team and you have a ten game or whatever

1405
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: even eight game schedule. That's what you do with those

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's no different than what NFL Europe was

1407
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: in a way because players were allocated and the roster

1408
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: was filled out on the you know, the back half

1409
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: of the roster was filled out with guys looking to

1410
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: either get back into the league or get a crack

1411
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: at the league by getting exposure Fred Jackson, Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we can run down the list, you know.

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Speaker 1: So that's what NFL Europe was. It was it was

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Speaker 1: of the greatest value to GMS and personnel people more

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Speaker 1: than anybody else. Fans in Europe and whoever else wanted

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01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: to watch that, that's who it was of the greatest

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Speaker 1: value to. The problem was it was a halfway around

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Speaker 1: the world and it was hemorrhaging money. That was the

1419
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: other problem. So you know, you've got to get these

1420
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: NFL clubs to wrap their head around it. But there

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Speaker 1: is value there in that and if you put it

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01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: in the right places where there aren't where there isn't

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Speaker 1: an NFL presence, people will watch those games to at

1424
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: least put you in position to break even. You know,

1425
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 1: where you have a feeder system that's not costing you money,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's providing a tremendous advantage in terms of

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Speaker 1: developing players who are ready to play NFL football. And

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Speaker 1: you can do it in such a way where you

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01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: can probably also reduce the length of your preseason, so

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01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: now the players are happy because they're not grinding for

1431
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: a month before they're playing real football. Chris Brown is

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Speaker 1: with us from Buffalo bills dot com. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: tweaks to preseason. What do you think give us a

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Speaker 1: call eighth three fifty and twelve three one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. George on the line

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Speaker 1: from Buffalo George, go ahead, welcome to the show. Yeah him.

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Speaker 1: My I suggestion is I like the thoughts that you've

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01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 1: put fourth here on the minor league idea or what

1439
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: however you want to call it. But the Canadian Football

1440
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: League does it what I think is probably the wisest way.

1441
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 1: And they have two preseason games and eighteen regular season games.

1442
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: And you know, if you look at baseball, for example,

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: if you look at the month of April, when you

1444
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: have with baseball just coming out of spring training, by

1445
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: the time the season's over with any major league team

1446
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: is lucky to have half those guys still on their rosters.

1447
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 1: They get down to the end and weed in the

1448
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: early stages of the season. You weed out the players.

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01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: And if you're playing eighteen game season, um, you know

1450
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: you could take the first three or four games, yes,

1451
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: they count in the regular standings, but you're gonna be

1452
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: weeding out players that are as you go forward, and

1453
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: then as you have your um, other players that are

1454
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: in the on the practice squads and whatever, you start

1455
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: to get your your your team together probably say the

1456
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 1: last fourteen or fifteen games of the season. Um, the

1457
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: games all count, okay, except for the two preseason games.

1458
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: And the two preseason games you can give it. Give

1459
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: the tickets to the kids or whoever. UM, don't charge

1460
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: for that. And now you've got nine home games. UM,

1461
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: so that the revenue there is is there, and it's

1462
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: a more meaningful game. Um, and it's more fantasy. Well,

1463
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: let me stop you for a second there, George. Is

1464
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: it more meaningful if you're one of the early games

1465
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 1: and you're weeding out talent? How is that more meaningful?

1466
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really agree with this premise you neither,

1467
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: that you're weeding it out. No, there's no I don't

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01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: think there's a That's what it's the ability of what

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: goes on in sports any if you take the the NHL,

1470
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: you take Major League Baseball, and you that's really what

1471
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: happens in the first few months or the first few

1472
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: weeks of a season. Okay, and really in the NFL too,

1473
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: if you look at it, the team you start with

1474
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: is not often the team you end with. So right, yeah,

1475
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: it's usually anything. I get what George is saying. He says,

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01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: and he's and he's right. Um, when there is a

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Speaker 1: little bit of finding your identity, once the regular season starts,

1478
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,440
Speaker 1: you find out who actually is going to be contributing.

1479
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: It's not stated that, hey, these games are gonna we're

1480
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: gonna start feeling ourselves out. No, you go into the

1481
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: first seat game of the regular season, even if it's

1482
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: George's idea as an eighteen game schedule, you're not trying

1483
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: to evaluate guys, but your team evolves over that first

1484
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 1: month of season. We saw it in Buffalo. You see

1485
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: it every year. Um, he's not saying that that's how

1486
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: we label it, but he's saying that's the reality of it.

1487
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: And with eighteen games, you have more games left to

1488
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: over to overcome any hole you dig yourself. Like say,

1489
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: for instance, the Chargers last year, they come out it

1490
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: took them a while to find themselves, they didn't know

1491
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: who they were, and they come out and go, I

1492
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: think that's likely that you're missing a point. You're missing

1493
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: a point. It's not that they don't count, it's the

1494
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: fact that the reality of it is because the particularly

1495
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: in football, and he's talking about baseball and all that,

1496
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: which is different football, you don't know how it's going

1497
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: to evolve and how your team is gonna what you're

1498
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: gonna be good at, what they're not gonna be good at,

1499
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: because you can't really play hard with the guys you're

1500
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: gonna play with until the regular season starts. So extending

1501
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: that gives you the opportunity to recover and find yourself

1502
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: and still play well at the end of the season

1503
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: and then get into the playoffs. Um because you don't know,

1504
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: because you find out and he gives you more like

1505
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: like one hundred and sixty games in baseball, you can

1506
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 1: kind of recover barring injury, barring injury, like removing injury

1507
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: from the equation. Here. The only place where that kind

1508
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: of turnover and change in the first two weeks of

1509
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: a season happens is with a first year head coach

1510
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: where they thought they had a fit and they didn't,

1511
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: so they turn it over and they moved it while

1512
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: move on from this guy or this guy isn't got

1513
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: the character makeup I wanted that I thought we were

1514
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: gonna have. He's not contributing as much. Bang, you're not

1515
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: looking at more than four or five moves there in

1516
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: the first two or three weeks. Yeah, but that's not

1517
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: that's not the point of it. You're not doing it.

1518
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: You're not adding two games so you can turn your roster.

1519
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: You're just saying He's just his point was that that's

1520
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: exactly that's what happens. Sometimes you get a guy that

1521
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: after he makes the club, in the first month the season,

1522
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: he decides that he's going to take it out of gear.

1523
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 1: I just think that's based purely on circumstances, not how

1524
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: many games you play. That's why I don't agree with

1525
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: the premise. I don't want to see anything that minimizes

1526
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: the importance of each of the sixteen regular season games,

1527
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: which includes adding two games or thinking him games is,

1528
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, weeding out games. I don't want anything done

1529
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: that would convince the I think one of the things

1530
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: the NFL sells and works is that boom today is important.

1531
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: Today is one of sixteen games. These games matter. I

1532
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: don't want to see anything done that would minimize the importance.

1533
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: How would his idea eighteen games all of a sudden,

1534
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: you've got a more two more beat out game. This

1535
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: is an early game, doesn't mean doesn't really mean as much. Yes,

1536
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to see anything done to minimize the importance.

1537
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: That didn't happen when it went from fourteen to sixteen.

1538
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: Oh it did. Sure, Yeah, sure, you're sitting here fighting

1539
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: tooth and nail thinking every game is important and you're

1540
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: just you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

1541
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: When it went from fourteen to sixteen, it did matter.

1542
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: Each game was, every game is, Every game is importanteen

1543
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: seventy seven. By the way, Yeah, there's a lifetime ago.

1544
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 1: A lifetime ago. All right. We got to talk about

1545
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: tonight's game, and Chris has written about some guys to watch.

1546
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: Unless you want to keep going, you want you want

1547
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: to get us down your hole again. I'm not going

1548
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: to say this. If you go eighteen games, you know

1549
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: the first thing that we're down you're gonna ask for

1550
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: we're down to your rosters, right, And I agree it

1551
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: should be. You have to. You'll never get through the season.

1552
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: The game should be fifty on game day. And well

1553
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: not only that, I mean practice squads are already at ten.

1554
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna be asking for twelve, fifteen, maybe even a

1555
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: bigger roster, sixty man roster with you know, fifty three

1556
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: active on game D or whatever. You want to do something. Yeah,

1557
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: but here's the thing that the reason we keep going

1558
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: down this path it has a lot to do with

1559
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: tonight's game. Yeah, preseason's rough, and we're trying to figure

1560
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: out ways that we can make it not so rough.

1561
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: The problem is, you know, you have to make that decision.

1562
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna fix the preseason and we're not touching the

1563
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: regular season right right, So that's mutually exclusive. It's mutually exclusive.

1564
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna go in with that premise, I

1565
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: think you're I think you're asking. It's like you said, Murph,

1566
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a lot of time because the CBA

1567
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: is gonna get involved because these players I want to

1568
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: fix next year. I don't you know what I mean,

1569
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 1: it's for you. We're gonna wait. There goes twenty twenty one, right,

1570
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: this deal probably gonna wait. I don't want to wait

1571
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: that long because they're not bad and there's gonna be

1572
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 1: more of this next year. It makes it's gonna get worse,

1573
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 1: I think, because this is gonna evolve to a point where, um,

1574
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: now it may change involved. It may change it with

1575
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: the aa F coming into into also because these guys

1576
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: are gonna have a lot of the evaluation for guys

1577
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: that have been playing for ten games. So it'll be interesting.

1578
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the break. We'll come back. Chris,

1579
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: are gonna stay with us. We'll talk about tonight's game.

1580
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: Who to look for in tonight's game? Come on back.

1581
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: It is One Bills Live from Chicago on Buffalo Bills Radio.

1582
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. John Murphy, Steve Cancer

1583
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: where at the J. W. Merriott Hotel in downtown Chicago

1584
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: doing our show today and then we're heading over to

1585
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: Soldier Field tonight can do the game. Chris Brown joins

1586
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: US Bills Insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com. Um. I

1587
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: used to love Soldier Field, Steve, I don't anymore. They

1588
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: ruined it. A spaceship landed on. Yes, it's you played

1589
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: there with the Bills. Would you play a north Western

1590
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: New Stadium up there, Dike Stadium up in Evanston, it's

1591
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: right on three three weeks. It's uh now it's Ryan

1592
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: Field at I think it's yeah, something like that. Okay,

1593
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: So remember the old Soldier Field you played in the

1594
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: old Soldier They were played in the old Soldier Field,

1595
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: didn't play in the new one. The old Soldier Field

1596
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: was an atrocity, and it was the turf was terrible, right, yeah,

1597
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: And it was like they had both. They went back

1598
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: from natural grass to turf, back and forth, back and forth.

1599
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: And here's the thing they so you're right, the new

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01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: Soldier Field is nothing to write home about. It's not

1601
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: one of the great stadiums that they built in the

1602
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: last twenty five years. They've got every all the new

1603
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: stadiums are ones more beautiful than the last. You go

1604
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: from Baltimore to Philadelphia to MetLife in New York City,

1605
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: uh Gillette Stadium. You go to uh Tampa Bay where

1606
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: they tore down the old Sombrero and put the new

1607
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: Raymond James Stadium in Miami's read rejuvenated Joe what it

1608
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: used to be Joe Robbie Stadium. San Francisco's got a

1609
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: new field, Seattle has got a spectacular work of art

1610
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: in downtown. All these new stadiums around. Chicago Stadium does

1611
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: not measure up. And the reason that they um they

1612
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: built it. The fans here in Chicago love it because

1613
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,919
Speaker 1: it came, it was like going from old Cleveland Stadium

1614
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: to a new stadium that anything was better. So the

1615
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 1: fans here in Chicago think it's a great stadium, and

1616
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: it's and it has a look about it, like you know,

1617
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: dropping a spaceship into an old coliseum, like because they

1618
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: kept the old facade of Soldier, which was iconic. It

1619
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: was a spectacular looking stadium down on the old time

1620
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: as an old time city, old times stadium front. But

1621
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: the new stadium because they waited so long to do it,

1622
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: and the old stadium was in such a state when

1623
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: they finally fixed the new one. The fans here in

1624
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: Chicago love it because it's just wow, it's so much

1625
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: better than the old stadium. But when they when you

1626
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: go to these other places, it's just not they missed them.

1627
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: They missed it awful, Brownie. Tonight's game, we don't anticipate

1628
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: a lot of starters will play for either side. You've

1629
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: done a couple of good pieces on Buffalo bills dot Com.

1630
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: Five players to watch tonight. I want to ask you

1631
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: about a couple of these cats. Sure. Connor McDermott, going

1632
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: into camp I had hopes that he could wind up

1633
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: as the swing tackle, the backup swing tackle. I feel

1634
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: less confident of that as we approach Prehi number four.

1635
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: He's strictly a bubble guy right now. Yeah, um you

1636
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,959
Speaker 1: probably most of us probably anticipate they'll keep four tackles

1637
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: right now, just based on how things went last week.

1638
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: You saw Marshall Newhouse, the veteran in there at left

1639
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 1: tackle in place of Dion Dawkins, which would at least

1640
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: give indication that right now he's the clubhouse leader at

1641
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: swing tackle. After his performance last week, that may have changed.

1642
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: We don't know. M DeAndre Wesley tackle end guard. He's

1643
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: played tackle end guard, you know, so has new House

1644
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: to a certain degree. I think Wesley is a player

1645
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: that they believe in time can be a swing tackle.

1646
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: I think some people were hoping he could make that

1647
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: jump this year after being on the practice squad with

1648
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: the Bills last year. I don't sense that he's put

1649
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: enough consistency in his game where the offensive staff feels

1650
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: they can trust him in that capacity. But I think

1651
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: he's a player on the right track. I just think

1652
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: the timing's off right now. I don't know that he's

1653
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: ready yet to step into that role. So the default

1654
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: player becomes new House until Wesley is ready. Wesley could

1655
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: be ready by midseason to be the swing tackle. I

1656
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: think he's athletic for a three hundred thirty pound man.

1657
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,440
Speaker 1: He's got very good feet. I just think the consistency

1658
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 1: of his game isn't there yet, and so it probably

1659
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: is by default New House. McDermott's fighting for a roster spot.

1660
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: That's why I thought he should be looked at tonight.

1661
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: He's a He's got a little bit of an issue

1662
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: where he rocks before the snap and pass protection. So

1663
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: that's kind of an extra tell for defensive lineman gets

1664
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: beat a lot on inside moves because he is so

1665
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: tall and long. You know, defensive end gets underneath him.

1666
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: He's getting better at it with you know, stuff in

1667
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: that right hand in there to slow the guy down.

1668
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: But a lot of times he bends at the waist

1669
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: and that hurts also. So as much as his length

1670
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: is an asset, it's also a curse. You're five players

1671
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: to watch. You have Ray Ray McCloud as a guy

1672
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: to watch it. I've got Ray Ray, and I'll show

1673
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: you this secretly. This is my roster the checks I

1674
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: got Ray Ray making the fifty three yeah, I said

1675
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: last week on the pregame show with Kelso, and he

1676
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: tended to agree with me that everybody's talking about, well,

1677
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: where does he fit receiver? Sixth receiver? Is he gonna

1678
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: make the roster? He's gonna get squeezed out his bigger

1679
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 1: His greatest competition is Taiwan Jones. Right, it's not a

1680
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver. His greatest competition is Taiwan. If he can

1681
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: outperform Taiwan Jones or at least convinced this coaching staff

1682
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: he can give them as much as Taiwan Jones does,

1683
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 1: I think that becomes the main competition for him, almost

1684
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: less so than who might be fighting for him for

1685
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: receiver spot five or six. So he's got to really

1686
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 1: light it up on special teams tonight, and I think

1687
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: if he does, he firmly puts himself in the conversation

1688
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: to be on this roster, and people might say, well,

1689
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 1: how are they keeping seven receivers? He could be that

1690
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: seventh guy if he outperforms the Taiwan Jones, who is

1691
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: also listed as a running back. But both of those

1692
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: guys primarily are going to help this team this year

1693
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: in the return game. On special teams that's not to

1694
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: say that you're not going to see if he makes

1695
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 1: the roster, McLeod getting lined up for a certain package

1696
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: of plays on offense because he can be dynamic in space.

1697
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: But he's trying to make this roster and beat out

1698
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones. That's how he makes. When you say keeping

1699
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: seven receivers, that doesn't mean they're all going to be

1700
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: active on every game day, right, So you probably keep

1701
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: five guys active on game day. Same thing with the

1702
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 1: running backs. Could be four, could be five on game day.

1703
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: And when you get into talking about you know, those

1704
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: guys who are they're really looking at it, it's gonna

1705
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 1: be guys like DeAndre Wesley and Connor McDermott, those guys.

1706
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: Because I think Wyatt Teller he's probably on the right.

1707
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: I think he's probably on the roster, and I think

1708
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of problems. What else do

1709
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: you have after Adam can play there? But Adam Redman's

1710
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: gonna be be there. He's gonna be no. I think

1711
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the in the game tonight. I

1712
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: think Adam Redman's gonna get some looks tonight. I think

1713
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: maybe Adam Redman, depending on how he play tonight, is

1714
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: a guy who may end up being one of those

1715
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: guys on a practice squad with another team or maybe

1716
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 1: on the Bill's practice on this I think they would

1717
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: love to have that happen. I think Sean McDermott has

1718
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: no he is. Every opportunity Sean McDermott has had, he

1719
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: has said. Redman has played extremely well. That doesn't mean

1720
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: he's played better than Groy or bow nine, but that's

1721
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: a guy who has the ability. I worry about the

1722
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: strength of belt. You gotta get a little strong. I

1723
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 1: got I got a receiver question for you, and he's

1724
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: not on your list of five players to watch. I

1725
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with Brendon Riley. Yeah, that's

1726
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: he missed some valuable time with the fractured rib um.

1727
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: Time on the field. Man, it really hurt him. And

1728
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: with players you know, like McLeod in the mix who

1729
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: can who's more multifaceted than him, as much more value

1730
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: and special teams due to the lack of experience at

1731
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 1: the receiver position, do they lean more towards a guy

1732
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: that's got more time in the league, like a Rod Streeter.

1733
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of ifs there at the

1734
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: receiver position, and it's basically going to come down to

1735
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: what you Obviously number one is what you want, and

1736
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: then if guys and we're assuming guys are relatively equal

1737
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 1: in terms of what they can bring to the team,

1738
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: So then it comes down to what do you want?

1739
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: Do you want a little bit more experience, do you

1740
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: want more versatility? Do you want? And who who checks

1741
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: those boxes? So it's getting there's there are a whole

1742
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 1: different variety of flavors to choose from here. It's just

1743
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: what flavor the offensive staff is going to want to

1744
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: order when it comes to cutting. You're talking about guys

1745
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: who have kind of not been out of the lineup

1746
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: and guys like like even Cam Phillips who has shined

1747
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: in training camps. So now you get Cam Phillips is

1748
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: this year's Brandon Riley of last year where he's made

1749
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 1: plays and he has done some things in games where

1750
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: it's like, Wow, how's this guy maybe not gonna make it,

1751
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: and then you look at the guys ahead him, it's like, wow,

1752
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: I see how he may not make it. And then

1753
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: you see Brandon Riley who hasn't done that this year

1754
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: and who's been injured. You know, I don't know how

1755
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: he jumps ahead of guys like that, you know, so

1756
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: he still has practice square time, so you know that

1757
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: is an option. But one more position group on tight ends?

1758
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: Ask you about um and you do have one of

1759
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: the Kyrie Lee is a guy to watch to night.

1760
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: Where are they going with tight ends? And yeah, and

1761
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: let me as a preface to this, let me say this.

1762
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: I know in some quarters people are writing off Nikole Leary.

1763
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 1: You know what, He's on my fifty three just because

1764
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: of H versatility and it's all round H performance. But

1765
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: I understand why some of the other guys. Well, again

1766
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: it comes down to what does this offensive staff want.

1767
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: Do they value Do they put a greater val value

1768
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 1: on upside? Because if they put a greater value on upside,

1769
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: in my estimation, that hurts Nico Leary because I think

1770
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: Nicoleary is at the ceiling of what he's gonna be

1771
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL. A guy that's capable of doing a

1772
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: lot of things, you know, but he's not gonna be

1773
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 1: dynamic for you in any one of those air you

1774
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: could right you. I would say the biggest asset for

1775
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: him is reliable hands. Not gonna have many mental busts

1776
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: on the field, um, you know, and we'll make a

1777
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: make a play for you here and there on a

1778
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: critical down, third down, get to the sticks, that kind

1779
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,799
Speaker 1: of stuff. This guy is not running away from anybody

1780
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: for a sixty yard touchdown. He is not a game breaker.

1781
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: He's not really. I don't even think you'd put him

1782
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 1: in the in the category of playmaker. He's a serviceable

1783
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 1: tight end at the NFL level, and he he is,

1784
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: he's there at Tyrod Taylor off tight ends well, I

1785
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: don't even know if I don't even know if he's there.

1786
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: He's limited, multifaceted, he's limited, and there's certain things he

1787
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: does pretty darn well. And he's dependable. You know he's

1788
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: gonna show up. You know he's gonna be available, you know.

1789
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: So now you weigh that exact way that somebody like

1790
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: somebody like Croome who's poleticism far outpaces anybody else at

1791
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: the position, it's not even close. So do you want

1792
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 1: to take that dynamic ability and put it in an

1793
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: offense where your passing weapons are limited to begin with

1794
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: in terms of proven talent. I think you you side

1795
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: you go on the side of chrome how many it's

1796
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: a playmakers, Well, doesn't have to be those two. I'm

1797
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: saying it could be those two. How it could be

1798
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: how many tight ends? Three? I don't know. Three with

1799
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: a with a practice squad. I don't know if you

1800
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: can do three, Charles clay You've got a courage, you

1801
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: got an offensive playmakers gets, you got an offensive playmaker

1802
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 1: likes using twelve personnel here a lot. What you would

1803
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 1: say to keep an eye on? What are you looking for?

1804
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: I think he's got to make some plays. I think

1805
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: is blocking abilities are well documented and I think you

1806
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: know the box has been checked there. Box that's fine, Yeah, okay,

1807
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: we'll check that box right there. Let me ask that

1808
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: this with with the fact that what we saw last

1809
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: year and with his time here in in Buffalo, Charles

1810
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: Clayton doesn't practice during the week because he's got He

1811
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: skips one day a week Wednesday he usually has and

1812
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: I saw it in multiple times where he has to

1813
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: take a series off because his knee gets dinged. Um,

1814
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: Is there any way that they like all three of

1815
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 1: those young in a in a season where you got

1816
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: a young quarterback in a quarterback, do you say you

1817
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: know what we keep everybody except Charles. Oh boy, I'd

1818
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: be surprised by that. There's not enough. There's always there's

1819
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: not enough proven talent on this roster right now for

1820
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: passing targets. We've said, we've you know, you got a

1821
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: dependable guy in Nico Lears. Believe me, I'm not thrilled

1822
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: they're paying him nine million dollars, right, that's the that's

1823
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: the question, and that is an issue. But I think

1824
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: they've kind of resolved to bite the bullet there because

1825
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: you gotta get I mean, you to put some weapons

1826
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,919
Speaker 1: on the field somewhere. I mean, yes, you have Benjamin,

1827
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: and Curly's a nice veteran player out of the slot.

1828
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: After that, it's largely unproven. I mean, you can put

1829
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 1: Clay on that. You gotta have Clay on the field.

1830
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think fifty catches a year, you can.

1831
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 1: You can put it in the back. I mean, just

1832
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 1: you gotta do that. So, look, what do you need

1833
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: from carry league tonight? I think he needs to make

1834
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: some plays in the passing game to show some type

1835
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: of playmaking ability to say, you know what, this kid's

1836
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: on the come and he's not even all there yet.

1837
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: What are we going to get down the line. Is

1838
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: it enough to get a spot on the fifty three

1839
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: man roster. I think Croom has probably nailed down his

1840
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: roster spot last week with I mean the touchdown play alone,

1841
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 1: leaping over one guy, leaping over a second guy, making

1842
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: an acrobatic play to get into the end zone. That's

1843
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: what Sean McDermott wants on his offense, guys that can

1844
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 1: make plays after they've got the ball in their hands

1845
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: and do something that's not scripted. But Croom's on the roster.

1846
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: I think he is. I think he is so gotta

1847
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 1: I gotta take a break, and I want to ask

1848
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: you about some defensive guys too. When we come back.

1849
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 1: Chris Brown's gonna stick with us a few more minutes.

1850
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: Steve and I back with more One Bills Live from

1851
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 1: the Jaw Marryott in Chicago on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back.

1852
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: We're at the Jaw Marryott Hotel downtown Chicago. John Murphy,

1853
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 1: Steve Tasher, Chris Brown. A couple of minutes left with us,

1854
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: Mark Kelso coming up in the next hours. We come

1855
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: to you live from Chicago Bills and Bears eight o'clock tonight.

1856
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: You can catch the game here on their flagship radio

1857
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 1: and Buffalo w g R Sports Radio five fifteen and

1858
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 1: the twenty station Builds Radio Network. And I guess it's

1859
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: on TV tonight too, Stephen Are, Yeah, You're on TV.

1860
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 1: I am, Yeah, it is on TV. And I'm sure

1861
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: that my family will be watching, and my mom and dad.

1862
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 1: There you go. Chris Brown will be covering the game

1863
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: for Buffalo Bills dot Com. Chris has written a good

1864
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: piece that is posted on Bills dot com today. Five

1865
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 1: players to watch Bills at Bears, one of them on

1866
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 1: the defensive side. Draft pick from a year ago, Tanna Vallejo,

1867
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: who's got an awful lot of snaps this preseason as

1868
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: the backup, actually the third mic linebacker right, well, yeah,

1869
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: prior to but this guy has walked into a golden

1870
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: opportunity tonight with you know, Julian Stanford suffering nose injury

1871
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: in last week's game. Uh, and he's a week he's

1872
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: got a week to week injury. I think Stanford does

1873
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: make this team, um, but Vallejo has an opportunity maybe

1874
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: to play the whole game tonight and really show what

1875
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: he's capable of, you know, from a organizing the defense

1876
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: play calling perspective, making pre snap adjustments and that, and

1877
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: then making some plays also. He's made a couple of

1878
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: plays here and there, but his time on the field

1879
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: has been somewhat you know, curtailed by the presence of Stanford,

1880
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: who has gotten the balance of you know, backup work

1881
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: behind Tremaine Edmund. So I listed him more because this

1882
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: is probably the most extensive opportunity we're going to have

1883
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 1: to actually see what he can do from start to

1884
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: finish in a game in that role. I'm going to

1885
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: see a lot of Lafia Pitts one of the backup

1886
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: corners tonight. You got him as a player to watch. Yeah,

1887
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: this is a guy that you know, kind of I

1888
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 1: thought came in and filled in nicely for EJ. Gaines

1889
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: last year when Gaines went in and out of the

1890
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: lineup with various injuries. And he was a number one

1891
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: gunner on punk coverage, dependable special teams player last year,

1892
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Speaker 1: and so I said, Okay, nice depth corner here comes

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Speaker 1: in this year. He's running second team and then kind

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Speaker 1: of fell off in the back half of training camp

1895
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Speaker 1: and has had a tough time climbing back up that

1896
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Speaker 1: roster depth chart at the corner position. So I think

1897
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Speaker 1: this is a giant game for him to either a

1898
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Speaker 1: prove that he is worthy of being a fourth maybe

1899
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Speaker 1: fifth corner on this roster, and I think he's got

1900
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Speaker 1: to have a big game tonight to do that. I

1901
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: think he's got to make a big play on defense,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a couple of pass breakups, and make a

1903
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Speaker 1: play or two on special teams in coverage to kind

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Speaker 1: of cement his spot and re establish himself, you know,

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Speaker 1: as a capable contributor on the back end of the

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Speaker 1: cornerback depth chart. Let's take one call on tonight's team

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Speaker 1: before we let Brownie go Emmanuel on the line from Hawaii. Hello, Emmanual,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, A good morning gentlemen. Brownie. My question is

1909
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: is uh, I don't know who the starter is. Who's

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Speaker 1: going to be the starting quarterback. I think Sean McDermott

1911
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Speaker 1: likes to play this game where he announced it the

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Speaker 1: starter at game, and my prediction is that he'll do

1913
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 1: it into the regular season two where we don't have

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Speaker 1: a clue and it's like the media lesson get away

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Speaker 1: with it um. In terms of to go back to

1916
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Speaker 1: our preseason common I was thinking, who said the game

1917
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Speaker 1: has to be four quarters. Maybe they can cut the

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Speaker 1: quarters or a running clock as an adjustment. I think

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Speaker 1: oftentimes we end up tending like, man, this is a

1920
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Speaker 1: long game, and maybe that will help because I don't

1921
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Speaker 1: I don't see him cutting for for you know, I

1922
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Speaker 1: think one of them keep me on the line. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's good, it's a good idea. I get a named Manual.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things that has been brought

1925
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Speaker 1: up for us is maybe holding those final cuts until

1926
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Speaker 1: the first month of the season where you have led

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Speaker 1: him Wow, um, well yeah, expand the rosters for the

1928
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Speaker 1: first month of the season so that you know you

1929
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: can do it incrementally and get these guys eight the

1930
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: games will count. You just have more guys at your disposal.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a better way to do it than

1932
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Speaker 1: maybe what does that nothing except that you're more flexible.

1933
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: It fixes It fixes the problems you have in the

1934
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Speaker 1: preseason of maybe not starting guys are not playing guys,

1935
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Speaker 1: and I think, but they're not going to play in

1936
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Speaker 1: the game's account anyway, right like the back half of

1937
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: your roster, they're probably not gonna play. Manual's question about

1938
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Speaker 1: starting tonight, Yeah, I guess I would not be surprised

1939
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Speaker 1: if McDermott did not announce a regular Seaton starter. Yeah,

1940
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Speaker 1: you know, well, I think here's what I think is

1941
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Speaker 1: part of the issue as to why coach McDermott hasn't

1942
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: made a decision. Maybe you know, in his heart of hearts,

1943
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: he really doesn't have a decision finalized yet, and it

1944
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Speaker 1: might be due in part to the fact that AJM

1945
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: Karen hasn't been on the field enough. I mean, he's

1946
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 1: only got sixteen pass attempts, you know, a little bit

1947
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 1: more than what did he get seven eight series of

1948
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 1: work between Cleveland and Carolina and he's only attempted sixteen passes.

1949
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Speaker 1: I think, out of respect for aj It, knowing coach

1950
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: like we do, I think he wants to give him

1951
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 1: a feel like he's giving him a fair shake. That's

1952
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Speaker 1: why I expect him to probably play the most tonight.

1953
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 1: He's I think because he just hasn't had enough time

1954
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Speaker 1: on the field. So I think he wants to give

1955
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Speaker 1: him that opportunity. So at the end of the thing,

1956
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 1: he can say, everybody got a fair shake. What are

1957
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: you thinking? I think one of them, you're right. But

1958
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 1: I also think and I don't think he's made the decision,

1959
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: like we said earlier in the show, and I think

1960
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 1: there's still some things he wants to see before he does.

1961
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Speaker 1: But I also don't think any he's gonna be like

1962
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Speaker 1: every other coach if he can hold on to who

1963
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: the starter is as long as he can without it

1964
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: becoming a huge distraction and being a detriment to the

1965
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Speaker 1: rest of his team. Where is the rest of his

1966
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, the rest of the rosters saying you know,

1967
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: I can't go here. I can't either, I can't talk

1968
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Speaker 1: about it to the media. I can't let you know

1969
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: who's taking reps in practice or if you're not gonna

1970
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 1: tell us, you know what, what are we doing here? Uh?

1971
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Speaker 1: As long as it doesn't get to the point where

1972
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: it crosses over into distraction for the rest of the roster,

1973
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: and it doesn't become like, oh my gosh, we have

1974
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 1: to keep dealing with this, he'll keep it. He'll keep

1975
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: it close tout knit. But as soon as it comes

1976
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,799
Speaker 1: time where it's going to start to be the elephant

1977
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 1: in the room every time any of these players get together,

1978
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 1: then he'll say, Okay, here's our starter. I think that'll

1979
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 1: that's what will happen. But I don't think that's been

1980
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 1: to made. I don't think that decision has been made.

1981
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. What do you say if, like somebody tonight

1982
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,679
Speaker 1: eight o'clock tonight can't get near a radio to follow

1983
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 1: the game, or can't get in front of a TV

1984
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 1: to watch the game, or they want to watch you know,

1985
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 1: better call Saul or something instead. How can they use

1986
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com? What I'm trying to set you

1987
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,640
Speaker 1: up for a promo here, you dummy. How can they

1988
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 1: use Buffalo bills dot Com to follow the game today?

1989
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: What do you got coming up on the website and

1990
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter and all your other well I meant form, Yeah,

1991
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean we try to. You know, we obviously Buffalo

1992
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 1: Bills has the Twitter stuff, and we've got all that

1993
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Speaker 1: pregame coverage, locker room prep and things that are going

1994
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Speaker 1: on during the game as well with some video clips

1995
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,640
Speaker 1: that uh, you know, our crack staff of in the

1996
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Speaker 1: video department provides and uh throwing you I'm throwing a

1997
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 1: bone out there, and then you know we've got we've

1998
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 1: got our coverage, you know, and afterwards, you know, the

1999
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Speaker 1: recap is up right after the game is over, like

2000
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: literally final gun stuff's getting loaded into the system, and

2001
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, we've got our rapid recap which kind of

2002
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 1: just runs down the little nuts and bolts. It's kind

2003
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: of a drive through window version of what went on

2004
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: in the game. And we do that in the regular

2005
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 1: season too. Fries with that, Well, you know, it's have

2006
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 1: it your way, so you know, it is what it is.

2007
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 1: And then you know, we always want to kind of

2008
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 1: compartmentalize the game in as bite size of fashion as

2009
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 1: we can, because we know a lot of people are

2010
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 1: on their phones. They don't want to be reading some

2011
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 1: long home about a preseason game or a regular season

2012
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 1: game for that matter. So we always do the three

2013
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: things we learned from the game, and we may learn

2014
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:04,799
Speaker 1: some roster decisions based on how some people play. Somebody

2015
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 1: maybe have put themselves in a great position to land

2016
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:12,879
Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster spot. Maybe the defensive scheming

2017
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 1: look decidedly different from what we were anticipating, based on

2018
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 1: the fact that it's the last preseason game. Maybe there

2019
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 1: were more things that they wanted to clean up, and

2020
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: things change dramatically there. Maybe Brian Dable takes another left

2021
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: turn with what he wants to put out there on

2022
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 1: the field with his offensive scheming. We'll let you know. Yeah,

2023
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: it's interesting because this preseason thing. And maybe it's us

2024
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 1: because we give this tweet from Robert Mortier. Me and

2025
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 1: my son are diehard fans. We follow everything Bills and

2026
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: we love scouting players in the preseason. We watch every

2027
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 1: snap to watch guy's clawing and make the team. To us,

2028
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,440
Speaker 1: it's fun. Is it just us guys in the broadcast

2029
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 1: business that hate the preseason because we do so much?

2030
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,719
Speaker 1: Wells are always gonna be the die hards. They're always

2031
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 1: gonna be the die hards. And I don't hate it either,

2032
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 1: but I'm saying in it's you know, we don't get

2033
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: to see the guys who want to play. Is it

2034
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 1: just us who hates it? To the fans, I don't.

2035
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 1: I think hates kind of a strong word. I think

2036
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 1: the fans that are I don't even want to say

2037
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 1: bothered by it, But the fans that would rather do

2038
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 1: without maybe the last preseason game, all they really are

2039
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 1: is anxious to get to the regular season. I think

2040
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: that's really the only the only so is it just

2041
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:25,560
Speaker 1: does who want thinks it needs to change? Well? I

2042
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: don't think so. And the reason I don't hate it

2043
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,560
Speaker 1: The reason I think it needs to change is that

2044
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: it's it's doing a disservice to the normally high quality

2045
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: NFL project. I could really believe that. But it's always

2046
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: going to do that though, even if it's two games,

2047
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, so two is less than four. And maybe

2048
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: we're maybe yeah, because we do get some people who man,

2049
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: they you know, they bring their kids the preseason games.

2050
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Speaker 1: They love it and it's and for all those reasons,

2051
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's just us. I don't know,

2052
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: not me. I don't hate it. Well, I didn't hate.

2053
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: It's a strong word. I get it, but you know,

2054
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 1: may think it needs to be fixed. I guess Chris. Thanks, Yeah,

2055
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Speaker 1: you got it, Chris. Consider Buffalo Bills dot com. Mark

2056
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Speaker 1: Kelsels to anybody to join us in the third and

2057
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Speaker 1: final hour of the show. Come on back for that one.

2058
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Speaker 1: Bills Live from Chicago on Buffalo Bills Radio Blalo Bills

2059
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Radio Network Stories up date. It is the preseason finale

2060
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Speaker 1: for the Bills tonight here in Chicago to play the Bears.

2061
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo with plenty of problems to clean up, plenty of

2062
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 1: issues to solve in the ten days before they opened

2063
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 1: the season of Baltimore, but they are not elected to

2064
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 1: get them cleaned up. Tonight, Bills expected to keep most

2065
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 1: of their starters on the sidelines. The Bears also they've

2066
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 1: been resting their first unit for much of the preseason schedule.

2067
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: A J. McCarron, who did not play less Sunday against

2068
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 1: the Bengals, expected to get the bulcal the work at

2069
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to night for Buffalo. The Bears are going with

2070
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Speaker 1: Tyler Bray to take every snap for them. Saturday cutdown

2071
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 1: day in the NFL to Bills with thirty three players

2072
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,799
Speaker 1: to release by four pm Saturday, and then the opener

2073
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 1: in Baltimore September night, Tonight Bills in Chicago, eight o'clock

2074
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: kickoff from Soldier Field. I've got the call of the

2075
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: game on the radio with Mark Kelso and Sal Capacho

2076
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:06,719
Speaker 1: on our flagship in Buffalo, WGR Sports Radio five fifty

2077
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 1: and all over the twenty station Bills Radio network. Lots

2078
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 1: of NFL news. Aaron Rodgers signed his extension with the

2079
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, then announcement King Lead yesterday of record

2080
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: breaking four year, one hundred thirty four million dollar extension

2081
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 1: could be worth up to one hundred eighty million dollars

2082
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 1: in total money. The extension includes nearly one hundred three

2083
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Speaker 1: million total and guarantees another record amount an average annual

2084
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: value of thirty three and a half million dollars for

2085
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. The Jets clarified their crowded quarterback situation yesterday.

2086
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 1: They traded Teddy Bridgewater and a sixth round draft pick

2087
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: next year to the New Orleans Saints for a third

2088
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 1: round pick next year. It's that means Sam Darnold is

2089
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 1: expected to be the Jets Week one starter. Teddy Bridgewater

2090
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: goes to New Orleans, found out about the trade when

2091
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 1: he's on the Jets team bus headed to Philadelphia, stopped

2092
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: the bus and said good bye to everyone there. What

2093
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,560
Speaker 1: are the Oakland Raiders need for Khalil Mack. There's a

2094
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 1: report from NFL Network that says you're looking for two

2095
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 1: first round draft picks and maybe more in any kind

2096
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 1: of trade for Khalil Mack. One of the teams shopping

2097
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 1: for the perennial All Pro pass rusher, according to the

2098
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:11,600
Speaker 1: New York Daily News, is the New York Jets. The

2099
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 1: Raiders no imminent interest in day Mack, according to reports,

2100
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Speaker 1: Oh a great time, Steve plasterer to the ends, dost.

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Speaker 1: Let's time welcome back to Chicago. To the J. W.

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Speaker 1: Marriott Hotel in Chicago. As we approached kickoff tonight for

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Speaker 1: the Bills and the Bears. Eight o'clock kickoff, now what

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Speaker 1: just six hours away? John Murphy steam tasks He's part

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Speaker 1: of the television crew tonight. I'll be doing the game

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Speaker 1: on the radio and working with my broadcast partner sitting

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Speaker 1: right next to me here, color analysts on the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network, long time Bill safety Mark Kelso. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Chicago, partner. How are you? Yeah? I love Chicago. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do. I do. I know. It's just a vibrant city.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a lot to do. And I mean particularly

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Speaker 1: when you're write right down here in the heart of

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Speaker 1: the city. I mean typically we're out by the stadium

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Speaker 1: and this year we're we'reth the Mariat here right in

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Speaker 1: the heart of the city, right by Whacker and I

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Speaker 1: mean it's just it's I mean, it's people everywhere. I

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Speaker 1: was thinking, I like your description of vibrant, and Steve,

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Speaker 1: you lived here in college. I was thinking, how would

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Speaker 1: I describe Chicago like if my wife's asked me. I

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Speaker 1: would describe it as sort of vibrant, yes, and sort

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Speaker 1: of bustling is not the right word. There's energy here.

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Speaker 1: You can feel it. Bustling. Bustling fits. But I like

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Speaker 1: the energy here, you know. And I like the fact

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Speaker 1: that it's not a glitzy city like New York or

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. You know, it's energy that I think resonates

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Speaker 1: with Western New Yorkers like ourselves. It's big. Yeah, is

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Speaker 1: a big, major, world class city, no place with all

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Speaker 1: of that stuff going on traffic, but also, h it

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Speaker 1: reminds you of it's an American New York City because

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Speaker 1: it's not as international as New York City is. It's

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Speaker 1: it's an American city and it's uh, it's a different vibe.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a vibe all its own. But it's it's big,

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Speaker 1: and it's got all the good things and the issues

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Speaker 1: to go with it. They do have issues, it's but

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Speaker 1: it's it isn't They have some, but it is great.

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Speaker 1: But it's drenched in Midwestern hospitality. Yes, yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 1: Keep going, you're you're all, You're good. But I do

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Speaker 1: think that I mean, there's there's and and I think

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Speaker 1: Buffalo people resonate with with the Midwestern mentality a lot,

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Speaker 1: because they're just generous and hospitable and and so it's

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Speaker 1: nice to be in a in a city like this.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about tonight's game with Mark Kelso

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Speaker 1: as you joined us, you may have heard it over

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Speaker 1: there while you waited to come out. About fifteen minutes ago,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker accused us all broadcasters of hating preseason game

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Speaker 1: number four. Isn't it what you said? I described it

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Speaker 1: as hating. It was trying. I was exaggerained to make

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Speaker 1: a point which was obviously lost on my part. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I said, there was the real game. Well, there was

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Speaker 1: some higher level thinking going on as well, because I

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Speaker 1: think I heard a comment that two is less than four,

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Speaker 1: which I taught fifth grade, so I understand that, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. But you know what, I kind of

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Speaker 1: resonate with the caller that called earlier about he and

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Speaker 1: his son that are watching these young players extend and

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Speaker 1: just the amount of energy that they're going to expand

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Speaker 1: to try to make this club. And we've talked about

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Speaker 1: it before in previous years. But you may have five

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Speaker 1: or seven opportunities in the preseason when you're on that

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Speaker 1: field to make a play, and if you make three

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Speaker 1: of them, you have a chance to stick. And if

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Speaker 1: you if you don't make that many, then you're probably

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Speaker 1: not going to stick. But all these guys are great athletes,

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Speaker 1: have had a dream, and this is the toughest time

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Speaker 1: for coaches as well, because you're gonna have to dash

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Speaker 1: some of those dreams. And some of these young players

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Speaker 1: will will hang on and on a practice squad perhaps,

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Speaker 1: and some of them will make the roster, but some

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Speaker 1: of them are going to be told that there's not

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Speaker 1: a spot for you, and that's going to be pretty

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Speaker 1: disheartening for a dream that they've held for a long time.

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Speaker 1: They mark you and Steve too, I think a lesser extent,

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Speaker 1: But you live that life, didn't you. With the Eagles

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Speaker 1: and the Buffalo bill sweating out a final preseason game,

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Speaker 1: wondering if you're going to be released and it happened, right,

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Speaker 1: what's that like to play in a game, a preseason game,

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Speaker 1: wondering if it could be your last? I was actually

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Speaker 1: so they had cutdown and that those days back when

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Speaker 1: we were playing in the late eighties, well they had

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Speaker 1: a cutdown earlier than that. So I didn't actually play

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Speaker 1: in the fourth preseason game with the Eagles. They were

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Speaker 1: they were going to play, they were playing at you know,

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. But I was released on that Monday before

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Speaker 1: that that final preseason game on Thursday night. But I

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Speaker 1: had a huge benefit when I played in Philadelphia. I

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Speaker 1: played with a just a tremendous backfield. I think they

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Speaker 1: kept eight if I recall, and I was maybe the

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Speaker 1: ninth guy that the last guy that they cut, but

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Speaker 1: I had. They had Roynell Young, Wes Hopkins, of ray

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Speaker 1: ellis Andre Waters. I mean, they were like perennial Pro

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Speaker 1: bowlers on that on that roster. So I was playing

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Speaker 1: amongst those guys. But the benefit that I had is

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Speaker 1: because those guys had had were young in their career

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Speaker 1: but had played at a really high level. I got

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Speaker 1: to play all the time in the preseason. So when

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Speaker 1: I got released, I had lots of film out there

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Speaker 1: that showed how I could play at this level compared

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Speaker 1: to what they had seen at William and Mary, which

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Speaker 1: obviously is not quite the level of the SEC or

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Speaker 1: the Power five or those conferences. So they want to

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Speaker 1: see how you're going to compete against the competition at

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Speaker 1: a little elevated level. Although there's tons of great players

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that a little bit as well,

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Speaker 1: that they come from those those smaller colleges as those

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Speaker 1: FCS schools, or or even Division two or Division three schools.

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Speaker 1: Great players everywhere, But I had the benefit of extensive

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Speaker 1: playing time. And that's the one thing you guys were

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Speaker 1: talking about the preseason a lot. Marv was fantastic with

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Speaker 1: giving young players an opportunity to play. He knew what

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Speaker 1: the veterans gave him. And some of that has to

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Speaker 1: do with the continent continuity that we enjoyed. In those days.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't so much free agency, so we had the

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Speaker 1: same group of guys together for much longer period of time,

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Speaker 1: and and you got to really know what their skill

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Speaker 1: set was, and then you could evaluate a young player

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Speaker 1: to see if they had an opportunity to supplant a veteran.

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Speaker 1: That was as a big part of our operation. But

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Speaker 1: so those are some of the things that I think.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not disap pointed that veterans don't play as much.

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Speaker 1: I think young players need an opportunity and coaches need

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Speaker 1: to make sure going into a preseason that they understand

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Speaker 1: what the evaluation pieces and where their veteran players fit

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Speaker 1: and what they're looking for, and then if one of

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Speaker 1: those younger players rises to that level, then then they

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Speaker 1: supplant that veteran player. But that that doesn't happen that often.

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Speaker 1: But I'd like to see them give these young players

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Speaker 1: a great opportunity to show what their skill level is.

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Speaker 1: So do you see a need for tweaking preseason games

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Speaker 1: changing at all? Well? I see a need for not.

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Speaker 1: I don't think your veteran players and your starting players

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Speaker 1: need to play nearly as much. Now. Obviously you have

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Speaker 1: a new quarterback in when you draft a young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you're near some continuity that needs to be developed, and

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Speaker 1: now you have an offensive line that hasn't played together.

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Speaker 1: So there are some things that you need to do.

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Speaker 1: But I think you need to accomplish a lot of

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Speaker 1: those things quite frankly, on the practice field, and unfortunately

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Speaker 1: it's going to take that would require it to kind

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Speaker 1: of to kind of seep into the regular season, because

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Speaker 1: at first half against Baltimore or whoever, whatever team you're

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Speaker 1: playing that first half or that first game, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be you're gonna start continue to develop that continuity because

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Speaker 1: you're not going to have it seamless when that first

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Speaker 1: game opens up. Unfortunately, you're you're dealing with a number

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Speaker 1: of issues. One is you're trying to like we talked

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Speaker 1: about for a couple of weeks now, so you're trying

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Speaker 1: to evaluate these guys who can play for you, and

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Speaker 1: not only can they play, a lot of guys might

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Speaker 1: have the ability to play, but they don't have the

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Speaker 1: right skill set for your offense or your defense. They're

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Speaker 1: not a chemistry fit or not a culture fit or whatever.

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Speaker 1: There's so many things that you evaluate. Plus this year

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Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills, they're installing a new offense, so

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Speaker 1: your veteran players need to get adept at running their

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Speaker 1: new the new offense, and then hearing it and running

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Speaker 1: it and understanding it. And so you've got to take

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Speaker 1: all those reps for those guys and then go back

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Speaker 1: and trying to evaluate new players that are coming into

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Speaker 1: that and seeing how they incorporate their skill set into

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Speaker 1: this new offense. So there's there's so many facets and

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Speaker 1: levels to the evaluation that a guy who was dependent

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Speaker 1: upon last year may not have a skill set that

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Speaker 1: meshes very well with this year. And you end up

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Speaker 1: saying goodbye to a guy that last year was a

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Speaker 1: contributor and this year not so much so because you

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Speaker 1: have a new player coming in who is exactly what

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Speaker 1: you need. So all of that happens. Not to say

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Speaker 1: that there's not room for all of those guys on

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Speaker 1: the roster, but there are certain at bottom third or

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Speaker 1: the roster is always changing, and I think it changes

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Speaker 1: from day to day, week to week in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and that's what we're going to see again tonight. Well,

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Speaker 1: and there's a different philosophy from a coaching perspective about

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Speaker 1: some of those guys that are down the roster because

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Speaker 1: some of those guys are going to be valuable on

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Speaker 1: special teams, like we talked about, and then you might

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Speaker 1: want a guy on special teams it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: more athletic than a guy who might say, be a

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Speaker 1: little bit more instinctive that plays the position really well,

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Speaker 1: but maybe doesn't give you as much in regards to

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Speaker 1: measurable speed or size or some of those those particular things.

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Speaker 1: So they, I mean, there's not an easy situation. Look

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Speaker 1: from a business perspective, here's what I think they should do. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they should They should first of all, they should discount

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Speaker 1: those preseason games. I think they should because you're out

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Speaker 1: there watching young players competing for a job. You're not

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Speaker 1: getting the same product. And I know you guys talked

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Speaker 1: about that as well, that you're getting on opening Day

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Speaker 1: or as the season unfolds. In the NFL, I think

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Speaker 1: they should offer those tickets at a discount those two

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Speaker 1: preseason games. And I think a season ticket holders should

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Speaker 1: have the choice to keep their seats and pay that

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Speaker 1: dis kind of price or give their seats up. And

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Speaker 1: it's a one. If you take your seat, you get

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Speaker 1: to sit in your seat, but every other seat is

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Speaker 1: fair game. And you sell those tickets at a discount

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Speaker 1: of price, and you fill the stadium like much like

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Speaker 1: the Bills do on Kids Day, and then you have

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Speaker 1: an exciting atmosphere to go watch these young players compete

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Speaker 1: for a job and for a roster spot on an NFL.

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Speaker 1: I think they could also the league should consider the discount,

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Speaker 1: the money they sacrifice or whatever, consider that an investment

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Speaker 1: in another generation of fans that will actually cover the

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Speaker 1: games for ten dollars. Because you've seen Murph, you've seen

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Speaker 1: the Kids Day game. It's phenomenal, it's phenomenal. It's a

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Speaker 1: big crowd. Cultivate a younger generation, give them those seats

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Speaker 1: so that you can get them into the stadium and

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Speaker 1: get used to being there, and and and I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's it goes a long way towards future kids

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Speaker 1: and future generations and future fans coming in and getting

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Speaker 1: acclimated and say, you know what, I thought, I do

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01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 1: want to make this a part of my life when

2313
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:26,680
Speaker 1: I get up and they have my own job. I'm

2314
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 1: going to spend a thousand dollars on a season ticket. Yeah,

2315
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:30,800
Speaker 1: with that question, Yeah, and where can you do that?

2316
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 1: Where can you spend the kind of money from a

2317
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 1: for talk of business season ticket perspective, I mean, there's

2318
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 1: no greater value than a bill's season ticket. Yeah, I agree.

2319
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 1: Let's take your phone call on the preseason tweaks and

2320
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 1: then we're gonna get to Mark's thoughts on tonight's game.

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01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 1: A call from Dave. Dave, Hello, you're on the air

2322
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: with us. Go ahead, Hi, John, Hey, great conversation today, guys.

2323
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 1: I really like it. Uh, you know, I have to

2324
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 1: agree with you, John, with the with the two game preseason,

2325
01:52:56,240 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 1: and it seems to be there's an aspect of the injury,

2326
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:06,480
Speaker 1: the business, and the product on the field. I myself,

2327
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:10,799
Speaker 1: as a die heard football fan, enjoy seeing the product

2328
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: being made, you know, with the guys that aren't necessarily starters.

2329
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, it might be the ninety third guy or

2330
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 1: the draft picks. I like to see those position bands.

2331
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,679
Speaker 1: I like to see the players that our team has

2332
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:29,599
Speaker 1: invested in. You know, Steve Tasker, he wasn't a starter

2333
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 1: on the Bills, and I love to watch Eric Mould,

2334
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 1: but I love to watch Steve's Tasker too. Even though

2335
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 1: he didn't play a lot, he made plays when he

2336
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 1: was out there and he was exciting to watch. So

2337
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of the same thing with the preseason. You

2338
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 1: get to see the guys put forth the effort. That's

2339
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 1: just as important to me as the final product put

2340
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:55,400
Speaker 1: on the field regular season. Yeah, I like it too. Yeah.

2341
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe this new philosophy we've seen across the league.

2342
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:01,560
Speaker 1: Marquis women talk to you about this about you know,

2343
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 1: the Chicago in LA. They haven't played anybody in the preseason.

2344
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 1: I mean they have limited their starters almost exclusively. It's

2345
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 1: been about the other guys. Maybe this will be the

2346
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:13,840
Speaker 1: impetus if the change comes. Maybe it will be about,

2347
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 1: you know what, let's let people come see these games

2348
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 1: for less because of that and do invest in a

2349
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 1: future generation now. But what are your thoughts on the

2350
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: trend in the NFL, Like we've been talking about on

2351
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 1: the show that you know, none of these teams are

2352
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:30,560
Speaker 1: more and more of these teams are playing fewer and

2353
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 1: fewer their stuff. Have no issues with it. You have

2354
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 1: to go into the regular season with your guys healthy.

2355
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 1: And if you don't go win healthy, it's going to

2356
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 1: depreciate the product that you're going to see in the

2357
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 1: regular season. I can remember a play and it was

2358
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 1: Andrea and I and I was going for a ball

2359
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 1: in practice and we didn't hit live in practice, right,

2360
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 1: and we were it was live to the ball, avoid

2361
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 1: the collision. Well, I was going for a ball. I

2362
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 1: didn't even see Andrea and there was a collision and

2363
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 1: we broke it up, and Marv was he just lit

2364
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 1: into us at the end of practice, like we can't

2365
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 1: be hitting our guys. We gotta go into the regular

2366
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 1: season healthy. I mean, he wanted you to avoid collisions

2367
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,959
Speaker 1: at all costs. And and so that's just the mentality

2368
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 1: you develop when you practice full speed. But but you

2369
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 1: didn't hit guys, and you've got to keep your guys healthy.

2370
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm listening to you talk about the contract

2371
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,160
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers just signed, and I'm saying, well, you're

2372
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 1: paying all that money, and all this money's guaranteed, and goodness,

2373
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the last thing we want is for

2374
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 1: him to go out here in a preseason game and say, well,

2375
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: we think he needs a few more throws just to

2376
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 1: be just right for that first regular season game, and

2377
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 1: then he gets nicked up and all of a sudden,

2378
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 1: this investment that you have, you know, I don't know

2379
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 1: what that extrapolates to with one quick thought here about

2380
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: his thirty three million dollars a year per game or

2381
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 1: per snap, but it's a lot of cash. So you

2382
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:44,800
Speaker 1: want him, you want him healthy. And I have no

2383
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 1: problem with coaches protecting those they're starting players who they

2384
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 1: proceed to be their starting players and given an opportunity

2385
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 1: to a young guy, because the young guy has to

2386
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 1: understand that that's that's your opportunity make a few plays.

2387
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 1: Because if you make a few plays, in turn some heads,

2388
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to stick on this roster. When

2389
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 1: you're paying a guy two million bucks a game. Yeah,

2390
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 1: you need him to show up point zero nine million

2391
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 1: a game for Rogers. That's more. But then they're paying

2392
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 1: him that. But really, and it's laughable. And maybe he

2393
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 1: does have some incentives or saying, but in the playoffs,

2394
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's a guy that's virtually playing for free.

2395
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a guy that and but

2396
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 1: that's really what they're paying him for. He's a guy

2397
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 1: that gets your franchise to the playoffs. He's a guy

2398
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 1: that is a difference maker in that regardless question five.

2399
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 1: They went from a playoff team and a chance of

2400
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a year ago to five and eleven

2401
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: on the top, you know, top fifteen pick in the draft.

2402
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: So that's why you give those guys that money. And

2403
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 1: it is but it is a risk. I mean there's

2404
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 1: no question about it. Markelso is with us. He's a

2405
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 1: color analyst tonight on the Bills Radio Network as we

2406
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 1: do the Bills and the Bears, and we expect to

2407
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: see a heavy dose of AJ mccarrn tonight. What are

2408
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 1: you looking for from AJ mccarrn. Yeah, it's just some consistency.

2409
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean when you talk about keys for this game.

2410
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 1: You just you want to see. You're not gonna be

2411
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 1: multi dimensional, multi personnel, You're not going to have a

2412
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 1: lot of pre snap movement. There's not going to be

2413
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 1: a strategic component to the offensive game plan. But you

2414
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 1: want to see balls getting out on time. Guys looking

2415
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 1: to see if the first reads covered up, Canny go

2416
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 1: to that second read and throw the ball downfield, and

2417
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 1: if he can't, and once the second read is taken up,

2418
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 1: if he feels like that's not a good option in

2419
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 1: that situation, then you got you gotta buy a little

2420
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: bit of time with your legs and find the third option,

2421
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 1: or you gotta throw the ball away or just protect it.

2422
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: And so I think those are the things you want

2423
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 1: him to be able to do, just manage the situation.

2424
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that he has even played with the

2425
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 1: group of offensive lineman that he may play with tonight,

2426
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 1: So there's obviously going to be some communication breakdowns. But

2427
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 1: I do think that the coach McDermott and his staff

2428
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 1: will be really reticent with these guys. About last week,

2429
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 1: I think there were thirteen penalties. I mean, it was

2430
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 1: it was an awful lot of penalties. And when you

2431
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: when you ham string yourself. With that many penalties in

2432
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 1: the game, it's very difficult to come out on top.

2433
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 1: So I think that's one of the things that even

2434
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 1: with a lot of fluctuation of personnel, that they'll they

2435
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 1: want to make sure things kind of go seamlessly. And

2436
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 1: aj McCarron, I mean, I don't want to bring it up,

2437
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 1: but I'm going to is. I mean, the last time

2438
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 1: he was in there, he went four or three and

2439
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 1: out against Cleveland. So I think he'd like to put

2440
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,760
Speaker 1: together a couple really nice drives just to show what

2441
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 1: he's capable of if, in fact, he has an opportunity

2442
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 1: to be in a starting role at some point this

2443
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 1: year with the Bill. Sean McDermot said it before Josh

2444
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 1: Allen played last week. We know what it looks like.

2445
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 1: We all know what it looks like and what it

2446
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 1: feels like when the quarterbacks out there and knows what

2447
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 1: he's doing, and that's what you really want. I mean,

2448
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 1: that's what we were looking for with Josh Allen last week.

2449
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 1: It's what we look for for Nathan Peterman. And it's

2450
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 1: the same thing with McCarron that he's got to look

2451
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 1: like he knows what he's doing. And can manage it

2452
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: and make something out of nothing, but uses the help

2453
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 1: that he's getting by his teammates as well. So it's

2454
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 1: a it's a it's kind of an esoteric way to

2455
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: look at it, you know. It's just a lot of

2456
01:58:56,760 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 1: encompassing things that happen. You know. Yeah, it's a little

2457
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:02,160
Speaker 1: bit it's I can agree with that. It's a little

2458
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 1: bit mysterious, you know. But you know when you see

2459
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:08,160
Speaker 1: it and he hears, here's the crazy thing about this

2460
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 1: game tonight. Okay, okay, this is really crazy. DeAndre Houston,

2461
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:18,480
Speaker 1: Carson free safety, William and Mary, Sean McDermott, free safety,

2462
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 1: William and Mary, Mark Kelso free safety, Willy Mary. When

2463
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 1: has three free safety, William and Mary, but in the

2464
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: same room or the same NFL building, it's a picture,

2465
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 1: there's a photo off there. I don't know about that.

2466
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 1: But I am going to get down on the field,

2467
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 1: the field I'm gonna go to okay, And he asked me.

2468
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 1: I talked to coach McDermot about it, and I said, yeah.

2469
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 1: He said, you're gonna go down and say hi to him.

2470
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'll go encourage him a little bit

2471
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:46,800
Speaker 1: because Mary and here you go Unfortunately he's a little

2472
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 1: bit down in the depth chart. So I mean his

2473
01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 1: roster spot maybe in question, so he may in fact

2474
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 1: the picture asking me if you ever heard of Mark?

2475
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 1: He has never heard. No. But here's the thing. This

2476
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 1: is and this is true. There is this is uh,

2477
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 1: this is this is true when you look at I did,

2478
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 1: I took you down the path, but I wanted to

2479
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 1: go down it because here's the here's the issue. And

2480
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have mentioned this tonight on the broadcast as well.

2481
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 1: But but didn't coach Nage the Bears coach, didn't he coach?

2482
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 1: He coached he played at Delaware? Right, yes, right, so

2483
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 1: he's got on this roster. There are eighteen players right

2484
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 1: now before cutdown. There are eighteen players that come from

2485
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 1: schools like I mean, there's there are great players at

2486
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 1: all levels. It doesn't matter if it's FCS or Division

2487
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:37,560
Speaker 1: two or Division three or any I I mean, there

2488
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 1: are great athletes and great players, some of those from

2489
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 1: those smaller schools. Some guys don't have the measurables that

2490
02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:44,840
Speaker 1: they need even to have an opportunity to play in

2491
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. But they they have eighteen players, no, all

2492
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:52,240
Speaker 1: over the place, Shepherd University from West Virginia, Abilene Christian, Uh,

2493
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 1: William and Mary's one of them. They got Delaware, they

2494
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 1: got they got an offensive guard from Cutsown. Yeah, what

2495
02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 1: do you think is going on? Well, I just think

2496
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:01,240
Speaker 1: he understands it because he played at Delaware and he says,

2497
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of young men that

2498
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 1: have instinctive there's just great instincts from a football perspective

2499
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 1: and great football intelligence. But because they don't have the measurables,

2500
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:13,880
Speaker 1: they may not get an opportunity. And I think he

2501
02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 1: must have guys that are out there looking for those

2502
02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:19,760
Speaker 1: players that say, hey, give me somebody that has some

2503
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 1: real instinctiveness and might have a chance to make a

2504
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 1: club even though they don't have quite the measurables that

2505
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:27,600
Speaker 1: you need lower down the depth chart and uh. And

2506
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:30,080
Speaker 1: then if they they're able to rise up in the preseason,

2507
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 1: they have an opportunity to look at the buque. The

2508
02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 1: buque Iowa, mister big ten over, there is not there

2509
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:38,240
Speaker 1: is no Listen, I never had any measurables. I mean

2510
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, there was nothing about the me. There was

2511
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 1: nothing about me. You get these people that come up

2512
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 1: and trying to make conversations. Now, that's like, you know,

2513
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:46,160
Speaker 1: because I'm trim and I don't you know, I don't

2514
02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:48,920
Speaker 1: way you know, I'm not over. Don't look over it. Hey,

2515
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 1: you look like you'd still play. And I tell him,

2516
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:53,240
Speaker 1: I never look like I could play, even when I

2517
02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:54,600
Speaker 1: was when I was going to the Pro Bowl, I

2518
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:57,480
Speaker 1: never looked like I could play. But you're right, there

2519
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Speaker 1: are there are a ton of guys like that out there.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I mean, coaches and gms, and

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02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:06,000
Speaker 1: I think it goes to the GM here in Chicago

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02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 1: as well as anything. You gotta have a philosophical uh

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02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:10,760
Speaker 1: statement that says, listen, we're gonna go out and scour

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Speaker 1: for these guys. We're gonna look for him, and they

2525
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:15,000
Speaker 1: are out there, no question now you and and there's

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Speaker 1: no obviously no doubt either that the more guys that

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Speaker 1: you get, you get more guys actually from those Division

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Speaker 1: one schools and from the FCS schools, and that because

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Speaker 1: they do have the measurables and they can overcome um

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02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:34,280
Speaker 1: obstacles on the field better because they have measurables. And

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02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 1: that's what and that's the big thing. If they look

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02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:38,640
Speaker 1: like it, and they they act like and they walk

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Speaker 1: like and they have all these measurables. Teams give them

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02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 1: shots and they get and they get repeated second chances

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02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 1: because of it. Mark, thank you. We'll get me on

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Speaker 1: the air with you tonight and look forward to it.

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02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 1: Are you guys on the same side of the field

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Speaker 1: as us and the TV thing? But it'll be again.

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02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:59,840
Speaker 1: It's a lot of overhang, Yeah, it's I mean, if

2540
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 1: watching or listening, it's a lot of fun, but you're not.

2541
02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of strategy. Don't care who wins

2542
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:08,080
Speaker 1: or loses. Want all the players to leave the game healthy,

2543
02:03:08,120 --> 02:03:09,960
Speaker 1: and you want guys to show up and make a play.

2544
02:03:09,960 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 1: If it's a tough catch, you want the young man

2545
02:03:12,040 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 1: to make the catch so that they have an opportunity

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02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:16,160
Speaker 1: to stick on the roster. And if AJ McCarron, who

2547
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:18,680
Speaker 1: whoever's playing quarterback is playing, I mean, you want them

2548
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 1: to throw some really good balls and throw a back

2549
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:23,320
Speaker 1: shoulder when it's tight coverage sometime and watch for those

2550
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:26,600
Speaker 1: little things that a guy can do. And in your

2551
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:28,800
Speaker 1: own mind, as you're watching it, say is that the

2552
02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:30,880
Speaker 1: play that's gonna put this young man over the top

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02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 1: and put them on the roster. A reason to watch,

2554
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Speaker 1: Reason to Listen, Thanks Mark, Mark kel So, Steve and

2555
02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 1: I back with more One Bills I presented by Kaleida

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Speaker 1: Health from Chicago on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the j W mary At Hotel, a fine hotel in

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Speaker 1: downtown Chicago. For all of your hotel needs, check out

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Speaker 1: the Jake. No, we don't. They've been good to us here.

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Speaker 1: We got a nice room and a nice place to

2561
02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:06,120
Speaker 1: work from today and we've had a good show. It's

2562
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:07,840
Speaker 1: not over yet, but it's got a good show, a

2563
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:10,920
Speaker 1: lot of good discussion. I think today. Yeah, it's well,

2564
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:14,080
Speaker 1: this is you know, with the thing that's happened. Usually

2565
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 1: you have you kind of apologize for this preseason game,

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02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, right, I don't think I think it's it's

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02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 1: past that. I think we're looking. I think they're looking

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Speaker 1: for the league to adjust it a little bit to

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02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:28,280
Speaker 1: what how they do it, and I think I think

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02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 1: it's high time they did. We'll see if they won't.

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Speaker 1: I mean not because of you and me, but that

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02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:34,440
Speaker 1: was our Twitter question to start the show. Time for

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02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:36,440
Speaker 1: the NFL to tweak the preseason? What do you think

2574
02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:38,720
Speaker 1: and what's your idea for a better preseason Steve, and

2575
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:41,520
Speaker 1: I've gone through our scenarios. Give us a call. We've

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02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 1: got time to discuss eighth three five fifty and toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eighty fifty two five fifty. And

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02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:51,640
Speaker 1: I do confess Steve to being inspired by Mark Kelso

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02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 1: about the small school guys. The chance that I knew this,

2580
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 1: but Kelso, you know, small school William and Mary type

2581
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 1: guy who made his bone in the NFL made his

2582
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:05,879
Speaker 1: mark by excelling in these preseason games. I never equated

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02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:08,760
Speaker 1: this game with small school guys like heat is, although

2584
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:11,960
Speaker 1: although the comparisons there, I always just thought, you know,

2585
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:13,360
Speaker 1: it was just the guys that were trying to make it.

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02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:15,600
Speaker 1: And for me, I came from like, yeah, I came

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02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: from here in Chicago. I came from the Northwestern University.

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02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 1: So I you know, I played against some of these

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02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 1: guys at a high level. But I never felt, you know,

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02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:25,480
Speaker 1: I never had those measurables like that you equate those

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Speaker 1: guys with. And so I didn't really equate it with

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Speaker 1: small schools. I just equated it with guys who were

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Speaker 1: fringe players. Yeah, and it's it's gonna be something. I

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02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 1: said this also, that this is one of those things

2595
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 1: where these players are going to be gassed. Some of

2596
02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:42,360
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna get more snaps in this game

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02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 1: probably than they did even in college as a regular

2598
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:47,240
Speaker 1: down and distance player. They played either either offense or defense.

2599
02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 1: They usually these guys are all stars on their team,

2600
02:05:50,080 --> 02:05:52,280
Speaker 1: so they were pretty pretty limited in what they were

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02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: asked to do. Just start at cornerback for this team,

2602
02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 1: or start at running back or wide receiver for this team,

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02:05:57,400 --> 02:05:59,320
Speaker 1: or offensive guard. Now they're going to be asked to

2604
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:03,280
Speaker 1: do that, and cover kickoffs and cover punts and beyond

2605
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:06,160
Speaker 1: punt return team and beyond kickoff return team. You're gonna

2606
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:08,520
Speaker 1: have to do all that, and it's probably more snaps

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02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 1: for some of them than they played even as a

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02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 1: star in college. And Steve, why we were en route

2609
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 1: to Chicago yesterday. There were a couple of big NFL stories.

2610
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:17,440
Speaker 1: You were keeping me up to date on your phone.

2611
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:18,880
Speaker 1: I just want to get your take on this Aaron

2612
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:22,360
Speaker 1: Rodgers deal that might get to one hundred eighty million

2613
02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:24,960
Speaker 1: dollars if he meets all of his incentives four years,

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Speaker 1: one hundred thirty four million, thirty three and a half

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year two point zero or nine million

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02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:32,600
Speaker 1: dollars per game. I mean, the numbers are staggering, but

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Speaker 1: the numbers are there. Green Bay is not going to

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Speaker 1: lose money on this deal. And that's where the quarterback

2619
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:39,760
Speaker 1: market is right now, and it's it's pretty amazing. But

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Speaker 1: who would you who would you pay more than Aaron

2621
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:44,240
Speaker 1: Rodgers as far as NFL quarterbacks. The only thing that

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02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 1: struck me this morning I was thinking about and I

2623
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:48,640
Speaker 1: know they paid him and he's earned it, but they're

2624
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:51,320
Speaker 1: really paying for pass production, aren't they. They're paying for

2625
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Speaker 1: what he's done, not what they anticipate he will. And

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Speaker 1: even even his value is up as recent as a

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Speaker 1: year ago when he went down, they went down. That

2628
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Speaker 1: was hit. If they want to have any chance for success,

2629
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 1: he's got to be on the field for this team

2630
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:05,440
Speaker 1: in this roster the way it's currently constructed. Um, So

2631
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 1: they they're paying for right now. They're paying to make

2632
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:10,680
Speaker 1: a run right now in the next three or four years.

2633
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:12,920
Speaker 1: They want to be good enough to get there. And

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Speaker 1: and you talk about the two point zero nine million dollars,

2635
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:19,400
Speaker 1: so it's point zero nine of a million's like ninety grand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's more than I made as a rookie for my

2637
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 1: entire season. That's that's how far it's come. And and

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Speaker 1: you know, God, God bless him. Yeah, I don't. I'm

2639
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:31,360
Speaker 1: not a bitter guy. I love my career. I love

2640
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Speaker 1: the money I made and all that stuff. And you

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02:07:33,560 --> 02:07:35,120
Speaker 1: see how these guys, oh, these guys are making it.

2642
02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 1: And it happens at every generation. You know, the old

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Speaker 1: guys leave and they say, wow, you guys are really

2644
02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:41,800
Speaker 1: going to make some money now, and the old guys

2645
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Speaker 1: leave after those guys leave and say, wow, you guys

2646
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Speaker 1: are really gonna make money. Listen, Uh, the game is

2647
02:07:46,640 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 1: what it is. The numbers are crazy, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: But it's a It's the best run pro sports league

2649
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Speaker 1: on the planet, even with the preseason and even with

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Speaker 1: all the controversies that surrounded. One of the reasons it's

2651
02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:03,040
Speaker 1: a controversial league a lot of times is because they

2652
02:08:03,080 --> 02:08:06,520
Speaker 1: allow so much access. They show their warts and their

2653
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 1: problems and their issues to everybody. And it's not and

2654
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:13,160
Speaker 1: it's and it's made him great because of it. So

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02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:16,400
Speaker 1: we'll see Teddy Bridgewater traded to the Saints from the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Your take on that, Steven, I'm wondering about. I think

2657
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:21,480
Speaker 1: the Jets have done a pretty good job with this,

2658
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, to bring back McCowan who that was kind

2659
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:27,040
Speaker 1: of their insurance policy obviously, to move up in the draft,

2660
02:08:27,120 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 1: make trades to get darn Old what at number three overall,

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02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:33,600
Speaker 1: to bring in Bridgewater and then uh to you know, realize,

2662
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:35,280
Speaker 1: we gotta go with Donald and we're gonna get some

2663
02:08:35,360 --> 02:08:37,160
Speaker 1: value out of Bridgewater, right, they get a third round

2664
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:39,800
Speaker 1: pick in exchange for Teddy Bridgewater. That I think the

2665
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:42,160
Speaker 1: Jets did a good job. But yeah, they basically boils

2666
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:44,520
Speaker 1: down to the They paid five hundred thousand dollars to

2667
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Speaker 1: sign Teddy Bridgewater, got him for nothing. He was a

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Speaker 1: free agent. They signed him, gave him a five hundred

2669
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:52,840
Speaker 1: thousand dollars signing boats, and then traded him and that

2670
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Speaker 1: signing bonus for a third round pick. I think it's

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Speaker 1: it was a great move by the Jets. They traded him.

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Speaker 1: I think Murph at just the right time as well. Yeah,

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02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:03,920
Speaker 1: it was just the right timing. They trade him to

2674
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:06,720
Speaker 1: a franchise in New Orleans where they've got a star

2675
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:10,680
Speaker 1: quarterback who is gonna be forty years old or is

2676
02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:13,760
Speaker 1: forty years again, Drew Brees and who's gonna have play

2677
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Speaker 1: as long as he wants to. He's on a year

2678
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:19,760
Speaker 1: over year extension to his contract, and when Teddy Bridgewater acclamates,

2679
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Speaker 1: he'll be the heir apparent. He's they've got a quarterback

2680
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 1: that will get them and they can win games with.

2681
02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:26,960
Speaker 1: So both clubs made out. I thought it was a

2682
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:29,160
Speaker 1: great move on both sides. The Jets trade him out

2683
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:31,760
Speaker 1: of conference, out of division, get him away from because

2684
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 1: he is a pretty good quarterback. There's a lot to

2685
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:37,520
Speaker 1: like about that deal for the Jets and for the Saints.

2686
02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: As far as the timing, I am anticipating over the

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02:09:39,720 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 1: next few days cut down now two days away, there're

2688
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:44,920
Speaker 1: gonna be more trades of potential backup quarterbacks. I really

2689
02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:48,400
Speaker 1: believe that. I think Bridgewater is the opener. Look, let's

2690
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:52,000
Speaker 1: face it, AJ McCarron's rosters five here in Buffalo is

2691
02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:54,880
Speaker 1: probably not locked down. If he plays a lot tonight,

2692
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:58,160
Speaker 1: some might interpreted that, interpret that as a showcase. Hey,

2693
02:09:58,200 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 1: you're looking for a backup quarterback. Look this guy, he

2694
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 1: just played our entire game right, right, wrong? What do

2695
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:05,200
Speaker 1: you think? Right that? You're right? And I think it's

2696
02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:07,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback off season like we've never seen in the

2697
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 1: history of the league. You've got, you know, Kirk Cousins,

2698
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:19,680
Speaker 1: Case Keenum, Sam Bradford, m Alex Smith, Teddy Bridgewater. These

2699
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:22,000
Speaker 1: players that have have been out there, plus the guys

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Speaker 1: that we're all drafted, we talked about for months and

2701
02:10:23,960 --> 02:10:25,840
Speaker 1: then leading up to this draft. Now some of those

2702
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:28,240
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be available again. Maybe it's a it's

2703
02:10:28,280 --> 02:10:30,840
Speaker 1: a you know, it's a quarterback driven league and it's

2704
02:10:30,880 --> 02:10:34,000
Speaker 1: been the most interesting offseason for quarterbacks in my in

2705
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Speaker 1: my memory. We're back with mored to moment one. Bill's

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Speaker 1: the show earlier. He's gonna call the play by play

2713
02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:13,320
Speaker 1: on the television side of the Bills. Embarrassed tonight, we

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Speaker 1: asked him what he thinks will be the bill starting

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Speaker 1: Quarterback Week one in Baltimore. Look I don't have any

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Speaker 1: inside information, but if I had to pick right now,

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Speaker 1: I'd say Nathan peter Men will be the starter. I

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Speaker 1: think that he has been the best quarterback this summer,

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Speaker 1: both the training camp and in the games. If it's

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Speaker 1: just a straight competition, I think he won the competition.

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Speaker 1: Now do the Bills want to do something different? That

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Speaker 1: it may happen, but they see it the same way

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Speaker 1: even correct that's possible. Yeah, absolutely, I would think that

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Speaker 1: peter Ment will start Week one in Baltimore. That is

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Speaker 1: Andrew Catalan on the Show with Us earlier today. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Bills insider Buffalo Bills dot Com, joined this earlier today.

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Speaker 1: He has a list of players to watch him tonight's

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Speaker 1: final preseason game. One of them is wide receiver Ray

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Speaker 1: Ray McLeod. Here's what Chris Brown had to say about him.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about, well, where does he fit receiver? Sixth receiver?

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna make the roster? He's gonna get squeezed

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Speaker 1: out his bigger His greatest competition is Taiwan Jones. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's not a wide receiver. His greatest competition is Taiwan Chart.

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Speaker 1: If he can outperform Taiwan Jones, or at least convinced

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Speaker 1: his coaching staff he can give them as much as

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Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones does. I think that becomes the main competition

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Speaker 1: for him, almost less so than than who might be

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Speaker 1: fighting for him for receiver spot five or six. So

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Speaker 1: he's got to really light it up on special teams tonight,

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Speaker 1: and I think if he does, he firmly puts himself

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Speaker 1: in the conversation to be on this roster. Watch. I

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Speaker 1: never got Mike up. Oh well they got you. You're

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Speaker 1: part of Bills are better. But there's much better things

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Speaker 1: on the show than your a little part atle Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, great part about Kyle Williams working with Harrison

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Speaker 1: phillips Um, a lot with Tredevious White. A lot of

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Speaker 1: it dealt with the member of the inter squad practice.

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Speaker 1: I think it was August third, a month ago now.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it was centered on that. But it

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Speaker 1: was good. It's definitely worth watching. Now I have to

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Speaker 1: buffle of Bills and better. How do I murf? How

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Speaker 1: do I watch it? Facebook Watch? But I think it's

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Speaker 1: on all our platforms shortly right, it should be all

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Speaker 1: of the Bills platforms. Simon, Is it on is it

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Speaker 1: on tonight? It'll be on tonight. It'll be on the

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Speaker 1: website tonight. It's on Facebook Watch tonight tonight, it's on tonight. Yes, oh,

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Speaker 1: first screening, I thought it was on last night. It

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Speaker 1: was on Facebook Watch, and now it's on the other

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Speaker 1: platforms tonight. They're just Sammy, it's not they're saying it's

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Speaker 1: only on faceboat. That's right. They not didn't know what

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Speaker 1: who's on the first totally through them. Production assistant today,

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Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Coltonick Thomas, honld Er, Kelly Rude, j J. Gurto,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Card, Just James robell Our producer Jay Harris. We

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Speaker 1: got Bills and Bears tonight we're gonna be back in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Mower to talk about it twelve noon to three pm.

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