Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm Strong and Getty and
Speaker 2: no He Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: With the arrest of the congress woman Democratic Congress'll give
Speaker 3: me a break. Did you see her? She was out
Speaker 3: of control?
Speaker 2: Did you?
Speaker 3: Those days are over, the days of who, the days
Speaker 3: of WHOA no I did? The days of woke are over.
Speaker 2: That woman I don't.
Speaker 3: I have no idea who she is. That woman was
Speaker 3: out of control. She was shoving federal agents. She was
Speaker 3: out of control. The days of that crap are over
Speaker 3: in this country. We're gonna have law and order.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: That reminds me. I can't let go of this topic.
Speaker 2: I will in a second. But we got a text
Speaker 2: from somebody. How come you guys gloss over Trump's obvious decline?
Speaker 2: Why aren't you talking about that? You know that was
Speaker 2: one of the big pushbacks during the whole Biden thing.
Speaker 2: Look at Trump's rambling or when he gets things wrong,
Speaker 2: which he does, and he does ramble and very thing,
Speaker 2: but you just heard him. They're not even in the
Speaker 2: same ballpark of mental decline. It's apples and Volkswagens in
Speaker 2: terms of mental decline. And yeah, and if you but
Speaker 2: if you actually believe that, that's the why I want
Speaker 2: to bring this up. If you actually believe that you
Speaker 2: have the same level of lying to your self delusion
Speaker 2: that allowed all this to happen because you're so wrong.
Speaker 1: Because you want it so badly to be true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I take a long look at yourself. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know what else to suggest.
Speaker 2: What is Trump? You always say about looking in the mirror.
Speaker 1: Uh, if you don't know what introspection is, take a long,
Speaker 1: hard look at yourself. That was Trump commenting on the
Speaker 1: arrest of Democratic New Jersey congress gal Monica mcgiver.
Speaker 2: What a crazy story.
Speaker 1: Assaulted cops and ice officials and stuff like that, then
Speaker 1: try to hide behind race and whatever else the lunatic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the charges against me are purely political. Yeah, you're a hack,
Speaker 1: you're a liar, You assaulted a cop. Enjoy the criminal
Speaker 1: justice process. I hope it's long in our.
Speaker 2: Gen all in the name of protecting illegal criminals. What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, keep going, good luck in that next election.
Speaker 1: So on a slightly different topic but oddly connected, there's
Speaker 1: a great piece by Will swam in the National Review,
Speaker 1: who's been following California politics and Gavin Newsom's absurdities and
Speaker 1: the rest of that. He's also the president of the
Speaker 1: California Policy Center and is California and Will does great work.
Speaker 1: We ought to talk to him someday. I don't think
Speaker 1: we have. But so he's talking about as so many
Speaker 1: people have. The California Globe has done a good job
Speaker 1: on this too. Gavin Newsom's just shameless gas lighting on
Speaker 1: the homeless crisis, or shameless dodge on the homeless price crisis,
Speaker 1: as Will Swain puts it, and how Gavvy boy had
Speaker 1: the audacity and just I mean, you almost have to
Speaker 1: have a sense of humor to try to say the
Speaker 1: real problem that caused California's homeless crisis as it exists
Speaker 1: right now is Trump's tariffs.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean like wow, wow. The guy's been governor and
Speaker 1: you know, vice governor or whatever since was it twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. It sits in here somewhere, It's quite a while.
Speaker 1: And Trump's just I mean, I can't even it's not
Speaker 1: worth the time to shoot that down.
Speaker 2: It's inspeedently ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But I mean he's just trying so hard to come
Speaker 1: off as a moderate. As he said the other day,
Speaker 1: I've been always a hard headed pragmatist.
Speaker 2: He told reporters.
Speaker 1: The hard headed pragmatist did not mention that he has
Speaker 1: increased the state's budget by fifty percent since twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Funding an array of boutique progressive programs. His green energy
Speaker 1: initiatives have killed the state's oil industry wall, checking up
Speaker 1: the price gasoline to the heighst in the nation. He
Speaker 1: remains the state's cheerleader for a high speed rail project that,
Speaker 1: five years after it was supposed to be done, hasn't
Speaker 1: laid a.
Speaker 2: Foot of track, but has burned through at least thirty
Speaker 2: three billion dollars in probably more. Nothing screams pragmatist like
Speaker 2: the high speed rail, and.
Speaker 1: Most recently, he spent a budget busting ten billion dollars
Speaker 1: to extend medicaid benefits to illegal immigrants. He has also spent,
Speaker 1: and this brings us to our main topic, twenty four
Speaker 1: billion dollars more than the annual budget of twenty two
Speaker 1: states in a feckless effort to solve California's worse than
Speaker 1: the nation homeless crisis. That is where Amy Bublack comes in.
Speaker 1: Amy is the mayor of Turlock, California, which is not
Speaker 1: terribly far from the radio ranch. And we and the
Speaker 1: crew are very very well acquainted with Turlockians. And I've
Speaker 1: spent many fine hours there and many listeners there, and
Speaker 1: we greet you and thank you for listening. But she's
Speaker 1: the mayor of Turlock, which nobody has heard of around
Speaker 1: the country. But in the hours leading up to his
Speaker 1: horrific budget performance, which was when he was talking to
Speaker 1: reporters and.
Speaker 2: Said, I'm a hard headed pragmatist.
Speaker 1: I'm quoting swam here, Newsom seems to have had a
Speaker 1: kind of nineteenth nervous breakdown. Attempting to explain his whop
Speaker 1: high profile failure to eliminate homelessness despite spending billions, he
Speaker 1: blamed local officials as a taxpayer, not just governor. I'm
Speaker 1: not interested in funding failure anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I won't time to do your job. This is so rich.
Speaker 1: Californians are vomiting even as they listen. People are dying
Speaker 1: on their watch, dying on their way. I don't know
Speaker 1: how do these people get re elected? Ah? Wow, look
Speaker 1: at these encampments.
Speaker 2: They're a disgrace. They've been there for years and years
Speaker 2: and years. I've heard that same rhetoric for years. People
Speaker 2: are trying, kids are being born. They have been there
Speaker 2: for years and years, while you've been governor for years
Speaker 2: and years.
Speaker 1: Right, as Red State reporter pointed out, it's almost if
Speaker 1: he hadn't been either governor or lieutenant governor since twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Hmmm. But here's the crazy part.
Speaker 1: Newsom decides that somebody needs a kicking, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Amy Boo Black of beautiful.
Speaker 2: Turlock, California, Central Valley.
Speaker 1: He reserved his most lethlamo for Boo Black in a
Speaker 1: letter that his office leaked to reporters. She first learned
Speaker 1: of the governor's letter from a political reporter thirty or
Speaker 1: forty minutes before I got it in my email. Once
Speaker 1: she read it, I thought, quote, this is crazy. This
Speaker 1: man knows nothing about homelessness, homelessness. He's going to talk
Speaker 1: to me, of all people. Newsom said to Boo Black in.
Speaker 2: The letter, it is imperative that the city reconsider its
Speaker 2: priorities and demonstrate the kind of collaborative, accountable, and solution
Speaker 2: oriented leadership.
Speaker 1: That this crisis demands enough do your job. Here's what
Speaker 1: brought that on. The mayor's sin and the action that
Speaker 1: brought her to gavvy Boy's attention, her refusal to spend
Speaker 1: the symbolic sum of one dollar that would have unlocked
Speaker 1: a county homelessness homelessness grant of two hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars in state money. Now reporters, of course,
Speaker 1: dutifully conveyor belted the governor's letter into the state's largest
Speaker 1: news outlets, and Newsome then promoted their stories on x
Speaker 1: truly a lack of ridiculous, lack of local leadership, on
Speaker 1: absolute moral failure, he declared, throwing the amy bublacks of
Speaker 1: the state under the bus for his policies. California has
Speaker 1: invested billions to combat homelessness in Turlock.
Speaker 2: Their only shelter is at risk over a single dollar.
Speaker 2: The state has done its part. Local leaders need to
Speaker 2: step up.
Speaker 1: So why would this monstrous woman not spend a dollar? Well,
Speaker 1: she explained that that two hundred and sixty seven thousand
Speaker 1: dollars of California taxpayer money laundered through the county and
Speaker 1: then to we care a homeless shelter in Turlock would
Speaker 1: have come with no accountability. People who live in the
Speaker 1: homes near the center have complained for months about the
Speaker 1: shelter's residents, who are not supposed to be in the facility.
Speaker 2: During the day.
Speaker 1: They pee and poop and shoot up in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: They steal from people's garages, the rest of it. And
Speaker 1: so the mayor says, quote Turlock City councilor requested a simple,
Speaker 1: reasonable condition that we Care expand access to bathrooms twenty
Speaker 1: four hours a day. Despite multiple discussions where we Care
Speaker 1: appeared amenable to this condition, they refuse to make the commitment. Instead,
Speaker 1: they chose to attend two council meetings and publicly attack
Speaker 1: the council majority, believing public pressure and threats would override
Speaker 1: the override thoughtful decision makings. And we respect their efforts
Speaker 1: in addressing homeless this, but it's clear that change in
Speaker 1: direction was needed. We could not in good conscience support
Speaker 1: a grant that did not address core community concerns or
Speaker 1: deliver greater accountability. In other words, no more unaccountable quarters
Speaker 1: of a million dollars. These people don't listen, They're not accountable.
Speaker 1: This is obscene and it's not helping the homeless people
Speaker 1: quote unquote who actually need help. I'm blowing the whistle
Speaker 1: on this well found out.
Speaker 2: For that, Gavin Newso attacked. As we found out last year,
Speaker 2: tens and tens and tens of gazillions of dollars have
Speaker 2: been spent all over the state without anybody paying any
Speaker 2: attention to whether it did any good or not. There
Speaker 2: wasn't even a mechanism for it. That's right.
Speaker 1: When they tried to figure out whether there had been
Speaker 1: any results, Gavin Newso had to admit, no, we don't
Speaker 1: even have way to figure that out. Yeah, and Amy said, no,
Speaker 1: we're not going to continue down the same path that's
Speaker 1: ruining our town. I'm calling this out. And for that, Gavey,
Speaker 1: who's naked lust for the Oval office is just embarrassing,
Speaker 1: decided to go ahead and punch way down to stomp
Speaker 1: Amy Boublack to support his presidential aspirations.
Speaker 2: Man, he's in a tough place given state of California
Speaker 2: over the last several years. I don't know how he
Speaker 2: I don't know how he runs away from it. I
Speaker 2: don't think he can so.
Speaker 1: No, he's a clever son of a gun for sure,
Speaker 1: and he will try very hard, but I just think
Speaker 1: there's too much weight, you know. I tweeted a great
Speaker 1: picture of a bunch of junkies laying in their own
Speaker 1: filth and garbage everywhere, with the California State Capitol in
Speaker 1: the background. It was taken on Capitol Avenue, Capitol Street, Kepital.
Speaker 1: Very easy to do, Oh yeah yeah, and I captioned it.
Speaker 1: I think you know, Gavin Newsom for president in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight. All fifty states can live the Californian. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's no way he can run away from his record.
Speaker 1: He'll try, but he will feel miserably and it will
Speaker 1: be a bitterly enjoyable to watch.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: I hope the Good Lord grants me enough years that
Speaker 1: I witness it personally.
Speaker 2: Why are you trying to? Eighty six forty eight? So
Speaker 2: did the Secret Service actually go see James Comy? I
Speaker 2: don't know. He didn't interview this morning. Was there anything
Speaker 2: interesting Hanson there? Comy? I feel like that really revealed
Speaker 2: the Komy being even more of a dip best than
Speaker 2: I thought. What'd you do that for? You? Moron? Wow,
Speaker 2: you have no judgment whatsoever. I always thought his judgment
Speaker 2: was poor, but it's incredibly poor.
Speaker 1: I think if Komy thought he could get away with it,
Speaker 1: he would go around in a crown in a long
Speaker 1: purple rome trimmed in white and black ermine.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read this tweet I came across and if
Speaker 2: you have to be a certain sort of person to
Speaker 2: even get it, but it's pretty good. Tapper's book is
Speaker 2: like All the President's Men if it didn't name any
Speaker 2: of the men and was written by John Erlikman. That
Speaker 2: is pretty good if you know you that. That's really good.
Speaker 2: More on the way, stay here.
Speaker 5: And gas price is dropping heading into the Memorial Day
Speaker 5: holiday weekend.
Speaker 2: There's some good news.
Speaker 5: Triple A reporting the national average for gas now at
Speaker 5: three dollars eighteen cents a gallon. That's down forty two
Speaker 5: cents a gallon from last year.
Speaker 2: Wow, in time for Memorial Day weekend driving season. That's
Speaker 2: pretty bad chilling. I'm gonna drive further and faster because
Speaker 2: gases the cheap.
Speaker 1: Exactly, I'm gonna throw a tow a trailer, nothing in it.
Speaker 1: He'll put some bricks in it. We have breaking Jordan
Speaker 1: Hudson News.
Speaker 2: That's the uh young hotty chick Dayton Bill Belichick, who's
Speaker 2: fifty years older than her. Right, she is told at
Speaker 2: least one person they are engaged. Oh, why here, wedding
Speaker 2: bells are ringing. Wow, he's going to marry her.
Speaker 1: Will can't hear the wedding bells because he's deaf because
Speaker 1: he's old?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, I hope he He's got a pre nup going,
Speaker 2: or he didn't care. He's old enough he didn't care.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. Ye, his kids probably care. Does
Speaker 2: he have kids? I have no idea if he does.
Speaker 2: They're older than her by a lot, certainly, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: most likely his kids would be what fifty, she's roughly
Speaker 2: she's roughly reproducing age at twenty four, right, so they'd
Speaker 2: be between forty and fifty.
Speaker 1: Probably her, his guess. And he didn't have any kids
Speaker 1: till he was thirty. But yeah, well, yeah, they're certainly
Speaker 1: older than her, significantly by a lot.
Speaker 2: Is he going to have her? Have them? Call her mom?
Speaker 2: His kids are old enough that if they were dating her,
Speaker 2: you'd think, really, you take he'll start a family with her. Uh,
Speaker 2: that's a good question.
Speaker 1: If she wants a kid, yes, and if he's unsnipped.
Speaker 2: I have a friend probably listening right now, who is
Speaker 2: a fairly large chunk older than his current girlfriend, not
Speaker 2: like Bill Belichick, but pretty big chunk who and she
Speaker 2: is interested in having kids, and he's willing to go
Speaker 2: along at his age. Yeah, says I'm a good dad,
Speaker 2: So why not? Wow. Speaking of that sort of thing
Speaker 2: and time going by, I'm trying to decide. I got
Speaker 2: to come up with some sort of family vacation idea
Speaker 2: for me, Sam and Henry this summer where I think
Speaker 2: could be the last big summer vacation because he's Sam's
Speaker 2: gonna start working next year, and I know when I
Speaker 2: started working, I didn't go on the family vacations after that,
Speaker 2: I worked. So manny goes by fast. I know everybody
Speaker 2: says that, but it's the reason everybody says that is
Speaker 2: because it's so true.
Speaker 1: And because we were amazed, as amazed as you are now,
Speaker 1: So go ahead and express your amazement.
Speaker 2: You should. It's amazing. Yeah. It's a weird thing, the
Speaker 2: way the mind works that way, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I suppose is there a reason? Is it just a
Speaker 2: Is there a reason for that? Is there an evolutionary
Speaker 2: reason for that? Or is just a factor of time
Speaker 2: and age.
Speaker 1: Well, time flies when you're having fun, time flies when
Speaker 1: you're completely engaged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's it. I think that's it. You think
Speaker 2: time goes by faster when you're busy. I suppose that's sure.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Anybody who's ever you know, had like a retail job,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a pain in the ass when it's busy,
Speaker 1: but it's worse when it's not.
Speaker 2: Because the minutes just drag. I think it's got something
Speaker 2: to do with how long the days are when you're
Speaker 2: raising kids two, because the individual day is so long
Speaker 2: and so tiring, and they still kind of are, uh
Speaker 2: that the idea of that going by fast just doesn't
Speaker 2: quite make sense, but it does anyway.
Speaker 1: Well, and I'm spitballing this obviously, but there's also not
Speaker 1: a ton of time at the end of the day
Speaker 1: to pause and reflect on the realities of parenting and
Speaker 1: what it all means in the grand Hey, the kid's
Speaker 1: got to be a band practice and at six thirty
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, So can you quit flasfizing and turn.
Speaker 2: Out the light? What do you mean you don't know
Speaker 2: where your shoes are for your band outfit? You know
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. Yeah, exactly endlessly. Oh god, my
Speaker 2: oldest has my ability to keep track of things and uh,
Speaker 2: you know whatever genetic I mean, that's something I wish
Speaker 2: they could have identified in utruo and we could have
Speaker 2: used crisper technology to fix. I don't care about eye
Speaker 2: color or whatever that the can't keep track of things
Speaker 2: gene Oh boy, no boy, where's your ban shirt? I
Speaker 2: don't know what do you mean? You don't know? How
Speaker 2: do you know? Or wash it? I want to bring
Speaker 2: back up again the whole Chinese spy thing from sixty
Speaker 2: minutes at some point. That's such a huge story that
Speaker 2: I don't feel well. It didn't get much attention because
Speaker 2: of Biden's cancer and a bunch of other things. But
Speaker 2: among other things we need to talk about. Hope you
Speaker 2: stick around, Armstrong and getty.
Speaker 6: Hijin Ping probably remembers that a lot of revolutions start
Speaker 6: outside the home country, and he doesn't want that to
Speaker 6: happen to China, So there's a huge effort to pay
Speaker 6: attention to the expatriot population.
Speaker 2: I thought that first story in sixty Minutes Sunday Night
Speaker 2: was so good, and I think it would have gotten
Speaker 2: quite a bit of attention had it not been for
Speaker 2: the Biden cancer thing breaking like late afternoon and then
Speaker 2: being the only story the next day.
Speaker 1: I wonder, just because the among the media is many sins,
Speaker 1: is the sin of being terrified of criticizing anything foreign,
Speaker 1: including Chinese espionage espionage agents, which we'll get into in
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the long and short of the story is China
Speaker 2: is spying on us in a way that like practically
Speaker 2: no country has ever spied on any other country in
Speaker 2: the history of the world. And the stakes are very,
Speaker 2: very high and h and we're kind of like not
Speaker 2: paying enough attention to the extent to which China is
Speaker 2: not one one hundredths of the attention we ought to
Speaker 2: be paining being close. But they featured a couple of
Speaker 2: different things. They featured. One they talked about that jail
Speaker 2: jails that China had in our country in cities around America,
Speaker 2: including in New York City. That should have gotten more attention.
Speaker 2: We should have whoever was president at the time should
Speaker 2: have gone aps over that. That is not something you
Speaker 2: put up with a foreign country. Putting a jail in
Speaker 2: your country and grabbing people off of your streets and
Speaker 2: locking them up should not be something.
Speaker 1: That you allow and whisking them off to the old country.
Speaker 1: Sometimes are just beating them and terrorizing them into capitulation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they also had this old guy who was
Speaker 2: clearly a spy. She was going to talk more about
Speaker 2: spies here in a little bit, But it's a Chinese
Speaker 2: spy who was here, and he was doing it for
Speaker 2: money mostly, is that what he was getting on? Anyway,
Speaker 2: I was going to bring up the point because we
Speaker 2: got onto the Joe and I during the commercials talking
Speaker 2: about the numb nuts maintenance worker at the jail in
Speaker 2: Louisiana who helped those people escape, and we were wondering.
Speaker 1: What they wouldn't be able to tie it back to him,
Speaker 1: and we were wondering.
Speaker 2: What his motivation was, if he got paid or whatever.
Speaker 2: And it just reminded me. I thought of that when
Speaker 2: I was watching the Chinese spy thing on sixty minutes.
Speaker 2: I've read a lot about your old timey spies, in
Speaker 2: particular the great Kim Philby, one of the most famous
Speaker 2: spies of all time. During World War two and after.
Speaker 2: He was a brit and was spying for the Soviet
Speaker 2: Union and ended up escaping to the Soviet Union and
Speaker 2: lived out the rest of his life there. But all
Speaker 2: of these, there's all kinds of motivations for spies, and
Speaker 2: some of them are just dumb, and it's just kind
Speaker 2: of a I'm smarter than you, and I'm gonna show
Speaker 2: you how much smarter than you I am. Sometimes it's
Speaker 2: just flat cash. Sometimes you believe the ideology of the
Speaker 2: people you're spying for, but that seems to be rare.
Speaker 2: It seems to be more of a you're just like
Speaker 2: angry at the power structure you grew up with, like
Speaker 2: your parents. Sometimes at your parents, sometimes it's your teachers,
Speaker 2: sometimes at your company, and you just want to strike
Speaker 2: back at them. Rebel without a com Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's a weird psychology of people that are willing to
Speaker 2: do this sort of thing.
Speaker 1: And when you, you know, hear about a read about
Speaker 1: it in retrospect, you think you took that enormous a
Speaker 1: risk to scratch that itch doesn't.
Speaker 2: Make any sense? No, No, I mean people sell out.
Speaker 1: Their country and earn themselves the rest of their lives
Speaker 1: in a cage in Supermax in Colorado for one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, right, Seriously, what are you gonna buy a
Speaker 1: nice pickup truck in the insurance for three months for it,
Speaker 1: and that's the You're gonna spend the rest of your
Speaker 1: life in a cage like you're a beast.
Speaker 2: Good decision. Yeah. And then sometimes, I mean, like with China,
Speaker 2: you have the situation where they will try to force
Speaker 2: you to spy. Sixty Minutes pointed this out by the
Speaker 2: leverage they have over your family back home or you
Speaker 2: being able to come back.
Speaker 1: The Free Press has a great long piece I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can post the link, you'll probably get paywalled.
Speaker 1: Maybe sign up for their newsletter. You can read it.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't remember how it orks. I subscribe.
Speaker 1: We subscribe because it's so great. But the Free Press
Speaker 1: is writing about specifically Stanford University and how they have
Speaker 1: well they describe at first how this one gal was
Speaker 1: almost recruited by the Chinese Ministry of State Security. The
Speaker 1: ms jack come in at earlier today. We should know
Speaker 1: that better than the KGB. The KGB is a relic
Speaker 1: of history. The MSS is in your town right now,
Speaker 1: trying to spy on you and yours well.
Speaker 2: As the guy in sixty minutes said, it's the biggest
Speaker 2: that sort of thing network in the history of the world,
Speaker 2: makes the KGB like look like nothing.
Speaker 1: You know what, I think I lied to you off
Speaker 1: the air jack. I think we have not yet played
Speaker 1: one O two. Let's play one O two, Michael.
Speaker 6: It's sort of the equivalent of the CIA, but it
Speaker 6: has much greater powers. One estimate says the MSS might
Speaker 6: have six hundred thousand employees and they are committed to
Speaker 6: going after the United States.
Speaker 2: We are target number two for them. Who's target number one?
Speaker 6: Target number one is China's own people. When Chi Jinping
Speaker 6: wakes up screaming in the middle of and I, he's
Speaker 6: really worried that the Chinese Communist Party was on the path,
Speaker 6: that the Soviet Communist Party was high.
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting nugget, but worked target number two.
Speaker 1: That's honor enough for me that the communist Chinese are
Speaker 1: that interested. But so this piece in the Free Press,
Speaker 1: let me just read you a little bit of it.
Speaker 1: For years, concerns about Chinese espionage have quietly persisted at Stanford,
Speaker 1: yet until now, no attempt has ever been made to
Speaker 1: gauge how pervasive it is. The answer we discovered after
Speaker 1: a year long investigation is very pervasive. After interviewing multiple
Speaker 1: Stanford professors, students, and China experts, virtually all of whom
Speaker 1: requested anonymity fearing retaliation. Wow, we could pause there and
Speaker 1: discuss that for a minute. And they don't mean by
Speaker 1: the communist Chinese necessarily, they mean retaliation by the woke.
Speaker 2: Oh wow courses of California, r of Stanford. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: brought up to the idea to a friend of mine
Speaker 2: was quite the progressive who worked in university setting the
Speaker 2: idea of Chinese spies, and there like I was a
Speaker 2: crazy right wing conspiracy nut to think there are spies
Speaker 2: in the university setting, finished the sentence.
Speaker 1: After interviewing multiple Stanford professors blah blah blah request at
Speaker 1: anonymity fearing retaliation, we found overwhelming evidence that the CCP
Speaker 1: is orchestrating a widespread spying operation at Stanford. According to
Speaker 1: Stanford experts on Chinese intelligence gathering, experts are efforts. Rather,
Speaker 1: the CCP is employed a crowdsourced approach to gathering information
Speaker 1: at Stanford, dubbed non traditional collection. The MSS uses civilians
Speaker 1: unaffiliated with the intelligence community to acquire and report sensitive information.
Speaker 1: The aim of non traditional collectors isn't necessarily to steal
Speaker 1: classified documents, but rather to quietly extract and know how
Speaker 1: behind American innovation. And if you know anything about the
Speaker 1: Chinese all of society effort to gain supremacy in the world,
Speaker 1: there's a mirror image of it in their intelligence collection efforts.
Speaker 1: It is classified documents and top secret weapons systems and
Speaker 1: clandestine pictures at military basis. It's also austrial espionage, stealing
Speaker 1: of patents in the latest from Nike golf Club.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's also just knowing everything that's happening in the US,
Speaker 1: compiling it, cross referencing it because they don't know when
Speaker 1: they need it, but they might, which is why the
Speaker 1: Chinese have a file I'm told on a huge number
Speaker 1: of prominent or influential Americans. I flatter myself that maybe
Speaker 1: there's a file on us. Probably not, but I would
Speaker 1: be honored.
Speaker 2: Can you tell your soul's desire for freedom?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I try every day for freedom. I try every day, sweetheart.
Speaker 1: Stanford hardly the only university where the CCP is using
Speaker 1: this approach happening across the country, indeed around the world,
Speaker 1: is Matt Turpin, former US National Security Council Director for China,
Speaker 1: put it recently, and I quote, the Chinese state uses
Speaker 1: Chinese students inside the United States to violate conflicts of
Speaker 1: commitment and conflicts of interest to provide the kind of
Speaker 1: technologies they would otherwise be denied through export control. In
Speaker 1: many ways, the Chinese government chooses to weaponize their own
Speaker 1: citizens to do those sorts of things. And it's a
Speaker 1: compliment to Stanford's you know, reputation as a center for
Speaker 1: innovation and technology that it's one of the prime targets.
Speaker 1: They can learn so much there, AI and robotics, intelligence,
Speaker 1: I mean software research methodologies, lab workflows, collaborative structures, even
Speaker 1: communications channels.
Speaker 2: They're getting a lot out of it.
Speaker 1: But again, as I've said many times, just to summarize,
Speaker 1: although I could talk about this all day, our universities
Speaker 1: in particular are absolutely infested with official, unofficial, and future
Speaker 1: Chinese espionage agents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely hundred percent true. In the course, so
Speaker 2: problem is that there's a lot of Chinese Americans, people
Speaker 2: who grow up in China are now Chinese Americans who
Speaker 2: hate China. I'm thinking of our friend ying Ma, she
Speaker 2: went to Stanford actually stand for law school. She hates
Speaker 2: the Chinese Communist party, she grew up in China. Lots
Speaker 2: of people like that, and so you end up with
Speaker 2: that whole you know, black bald communists, witch hunt problems.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can't assume everybody who has a Chinese name
Speaker 2: at your university is a spy because some of them
Speaker 2: hate China more than you do, and for good reasoning,
Speaker 2: but a lot of mar So then then what do
Speaker 2: you do? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely true. Well, but again I cannot. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to hesitate to call out the reality of it because
Speaker 1: I fear somebody is gonna go nuts and you know,
Speaker 1: have some sort of uh Chinese witch hunt thingy.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've we've got to call out reality. Sure,
Speaker 2: and certainly pretending it's some sort of conspiracy theory that
Speaker 2: China's spying on us watch sixty minutes from someday night.
Speaker 2: Well right, Uh, it's absolutely not a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's unmitiged, hated, undeniable fact.
Speaker 2: It's like gravity at this point.
Speaker 1: But the reason I threw in future Chinese ESPIONA agents
Speaker 1: in my descriptions was and I say this with sympathy,
Speaker 1: but just reality, because I believe in protecting our homeland.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I'm a Chinese grad student. We
Speaker 1: got no interest in politics at all. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: really really like the United States. In fact, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: even a Chinese American citizen. I'm an American citizen with
Speaker 1: Chinese ethnicity, or I was a child of Chinese, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever the status is. And then this, you know, this
Speaker 1: article starts with somebody who is calling himself Charles Chen,
Speaker 1: who approached several students.
Speaker 2: He's with the MSS. Pardon me, this guy was with
Speaker 2: the MSS. Yeah, no, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: But so this Charles Chen puts his hand on my shoulder,
Speaker 1: reaches out to me and slides into my DMS whatever
Speaker 1: the method of approaches, and he says, hey, yeah, I
Speaker 1: understand you're involved in some really interesting research in robotic
Speaker 1: and AI and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by that. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And then he starts making more and more intrusive requests
Speaker 1: of you that turn into demands to take pictures and
Speaker 1: you know, reproduce blueprints and that sort of thing, and
Speaker 1: and you say, you know what, I'm not uncomfortable. I'm
Speaker 1: not comfortable with this. I can't do this anymore. And
Speaker 1: he says, gosh, you know your mom and Shinjang really
Speaker 1: struggling to uh to pay your taxes and the authorities
Speaker 1: are about to come.
Speaker 2: Down hard on her.
Speaker 1: I mean she's gonna lose her house. I could probably
Speaker 1: look into that, and that's that's like the gentle version
Speaker 1: of it. And then that young person who again I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna hunt no witches, but that person who had
Speaker 1: no intention of ever in their life becoming an MSS
Speaker 1: agent is an MSS agent.
Speaker 2: Do you think China wins this twin us? With us?
Speaker 2: In China, they're winning, right, I think they're winning too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: do they win? And ultimately.
Speaker 1: No, but that might be the wishes being the father
Speaker 1: of my thoughts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said earlier, if it's no, it's because
Speaker 2: of their own internal problems like with the population and
Speaker 2: their economy and all that sort of stuff. If it
Speaker 2: weren't for that, I absolutely think they'd win. We're decadent, uh.
Speaker 1: Stupid, stupid speaking for myself, right, society In the long
Speaker 1: long run, I like our chances.
Speaker 2: But I will just say this then I'll shut up.
Speaker 1: If the pooh hits the fan, maybe it's Taiwan gets invaded.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, whatever causes China to say. Now it's
Speaker 1: I will not be the least bit surprised. If our
Speaker 1: cell phones go off, our lights go off, our water
Speaker 1: systems shut down, ours shut down, our computers, and our
Speaker 1: banking systems all stop within an hour of each other,
Speaker 1: I will be horrified, but I won't be the least
Speaker 1: bit surprised. And I think if anybody, particularly anybody in charge,
Speaker 1: would be surprised, they haven't been paying attention and they
Speaker 1: suck at their job.
Speaker 2: You're right, I would be horrified, but I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: I can't believe this happened at all.
Speaker 1: No, I would be horrified, disgusted, and this is a
Speaker 1: character flaw, but somewhat smugly satisfied that I've been predicting
Speaker 1: this for a long time.
Speaker 2: And now, you dumb mother.
Speaker 1: Oh lord, I almost said something unforgivable. Now you know
Speaker 1: it's true. God, we are so fat and lazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be thinking, I'm afraid that would happen. We'll
Speaker 2: finish strong next. Don't we have breaking news? Michael breaking news?
Speaker 2: Donkey breaking news? No, when news breaks the Donkey brace,
Speaker 2: it's official. Bill Belichick, former coach of the Patriots, and
Speaker 2: that Jordan what's her name? Are engaged? Oh? Wow? Wow? Okay?
Speaker 2: Uh from his standpoint, and why not you know it's
Speaker 2: toward the end of his life, probably in love? Happy's
Speaker 2: what's sound like? Nicols?
Speaker 1: Remember Anna Nicole Smith and that eighty eight year old
Speaker 1: oil guy way back in the day.
Speaker 2: They're almost fifty years apart. If you don't know the
Speaker 2: story her, you're marrying a guy, you're gonna have a
Speaker 2: maximum of like ten years where you can do stuff together.
Speaker 2: Then you're taking care of him till he dies five
Speaker 2: to ten years after that. Yeah, staff is Yeah. And
Speaker 2: also I had another question, Oh, I wonder who was
Speaker 2: pushing it? Was she pushing it, like, hey, you need
Speaker 2: to if you're not serious about this, I need to
Speaker 2: move on.
Speaker 1: Or was he?
Speaker 2: I wonder who pushed putting a ring on that thing?
Speaker 2: Huh right, somebody who's pushing it?
Speaker 5: And now final faults Tom Strong and Getty engage.
Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. Low budget,
Speaker 2: low effort. That makes me laugh every time.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew.
Speaker 1: Wrap things up to the day. There is our technical
Speaker 1: director of Michelangelo, Michael.
Speaker 2: Well hearing this announcement. I know it my afternoon. I
Speaker 2: got to get the University of North Carolina address, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go shopping for an ice cream maker.
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Speaker 1: can we have Katie's microphone now with the mic on?
Speaker 2: Oh? Well, I you know I control the mic. We
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Speaker 2: Final thought for us, Yes, Trump's going to announce today
Speaker 2: the Golden Dome Defense System for the United States. This
Speaker 2: is a huge undertaking. I can't wait to hear the details. Wow.
Speaker 2: Interesting my final thought.
Speaker 1: When Kathy Grew and Jack Black were both young and
Speaker 1: not quite famous, they hooked up a few times. First time,
Speaker 1: she wakes up at his apartment asked for a towel
Speaker 1: so she can take a shower.
Speaker 2: He says there's one in there.
Speaker 1: She didn't see one, only saying I only see the
Speaker 1: bath mat on the floor by the shower. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. He had one towel that he used for
Speaker 1: drying off and stepping on too. When he came out
Speaker 1: of the shower, she was grossed out, but not enough
Speaker 1: to not sleep with him. A few more times she
Speaker 1: added something like my mom met him and said, my god,
Speaker 1: he looks like a serial killer. This is a great shack Black.
Speaker 2: This is for me watching the Minecraft movie insane. Couldn't
Speaker 2: he wash his face before he does? The movie? So
Speaker 2: greasy and I'm camp I could smell him through the scream.
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Speaker 3: The days of that crap are over and FU if
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