1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm Strong and Getty and 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: no He Armstrong and Getty. 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: With the arrest of the congress woman Democratic Congress'll give 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: me a break. Did you see her? She was out 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: of control? 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Did you? 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: Those days are over, the days of who, the days 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: of WHOA no I did? The days of woke are over. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: That woman I don't. 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: I have no idea who she is. That woman was 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: out of control. She was shoving federal agents. She was 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: out of control. The days of that crap are over 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: in this country. We're gonna have law and order. 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 4: You know. 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: That reminds me. I can't let go of this topic. 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: I will in a second. But we got a text 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: from somebody. How come you guys gloss over Trump's obvious decline? 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: Why aren't you talking about that? You know that was 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: one of the big pushbacks during the whole Biden thing. 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: Look at Trump's rambling or when he gets things wrong, 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: which he does, and he does ramble and very thing, 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: but you just heard him. They're not even in the 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: same ballpark of mental decline. It's apples and Volkswagens in 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: terms of mental decline. And yeah, and if you but 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: if you actually believe that, that's the why I want 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: to bring this up. If you actually believe that you 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: have the same level of lying to your self delusion 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: that allowed all this to happen because you're so wrong. 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: Because you want it so badly to be true. Yeah, 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I take a long look at yourself. I don't I 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: don't know what else to suggest. 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: What is Trump? You always say about looking in the mirror. 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: Uh, if you don't know what introspection is, take a long, 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: hard look at yourself. That was Trump commenting on the 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: arrest of Democratic New Jersey congress gal Monica mcgiver. 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: What a crazy story. 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Assaulted cops and ice officials and stuff like that, then 40 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: try to hide behind race and whatever else the lunatic. Yeah, 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: the charges against me are purely political. Yeah, you're a hack, 42 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: you're a liar, You assaulted a cop. Enjoy the criminal 43 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: justice process. I hope it's long in our. 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: Gen all in the name of protecting illegal criminals. What. 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, keep going, good luck in that next election. 46 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: So on a slightly different topic but oddly connected, there's 47 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: a great piece by Will swam in the National Review, 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: who's been following California politics and Gavin Newsom's absurdities and 49 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: the rest of that. He's also the president of the 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: California Policy Center and is California and Will does great work. 51 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: We ought to talk to him someday. I don't think 52 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: we have. But so he's talking about as so many 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: people have. The California Globe has done a good job 54 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: on this too. Gavin Newsom's just shameless gas lighting on 55 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: the homeless crisis, or shameless dodge on the homeless price crisis, 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: as Will Swain puts it, and how Gavvy boy had 57 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: the audacity and just I mean, you almost have to 58 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: have a sense of humor to try to say the 59 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: real problem that caused California's homeless crisis as it exists 60 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: right now is Trump's tariffs. 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: Wow. 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: I mean like wow, wow. The guy's been governor and 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, vice governor or whatever since was it twenty thirteen, 64 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: twenty twelve. It sits in here somewhere, It's quite a while. 65 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: And Trump's just I mean, I can't even it's not 66 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: worth the time to shoot that down. 67 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: It's inspeedently ridiculous. 68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: But I mean he's just trying so hard to come 69 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: off as a moderate. As he said the other day, 70 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: I've been always a hard headed pragmatist. 71 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: He told reporters. 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: The hard headed pragmatist did not mention that he has 73 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: increased the state's budget by fifty percent since twenty eighteen. 74 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 75 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: Funding an array of boutique progressive programs. His green energy 76 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: initiatives have killed the state's oil industry wall, checking up 77 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: the price gasoline to the heighst in the nation. He 78 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: remains the state's cheerleader for a high speed rail project that, 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: five years after it was supposed to be done, hasn't 80 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: laid a. 81 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: Foot of track, but has burned through at least thirty 82 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: three billion dollars in probably more. Nothing screams pragmatist like 83 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: the high speed rail, and. 84 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: Most recently, he spent a budget busting ten billion dollars 85 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: to extend medicaid benefits to illegal immigrants. He has also spent, 86 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: and this brings us to our main topic, twenty four 87 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: billion dollars more than the annual budget of twenty two 88 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: states in a feckless effort to solve California's worse than 89 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: the nation homeless crisis. That is where Amy Bublack comes in. 90 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: Amy is the mayor of Turlock, California, which is not 91 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: terribly far from the radio ranch. And we and the 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: crew are very very well acquainted with Turlockians. And I've 93 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: spent many fine hours there and many listeners there, and 94 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: we greet you and thank you for listening. But she's 95 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: the mayor of Turlock, which nobody has heard of around 96 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: the country. But in the hours leading up to his 97 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: horrific budget performance, which was when he was talking to 98 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: reporters and. 99 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: Said, I'm a hard headed pragmatist. 100 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm quoting swam here, Newsom seems to have had a 101 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: kind of nineteenth nervous breakdown. Attempting to explain his whop 102 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: high profile failure to eliminate homelessness despite spending billions, he 103 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: blamed local officials as a taxpayer, not just governor. I'm 104 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: not interested in funding failure anymore. 105 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: I'm not. 106 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: I won't time to do your job. This is so rich. 107 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: Californians are vomiting even as they listen. People are dying 108 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: on their watch, dying on their way. I don't know 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: how do these people get re elected? Ah? Wow, look 110 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: at these encampments. 111 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: They're a disgrace. They've been there for years and years 112 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: and years. I've heard that same rhetoric for years. People 113 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: are trying, kids are being born. They have been there 114 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: for years and years, while you've been governor for years 115 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: and years. 116 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: Right, as Red State reporter pointed out, it's almost if 117 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: he hadn't been either governor or lieutenant governor since twenty twelve. 118 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: Hmmm. But here's the crazy part. 119 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: Newsom decides that somebody needs a kicking, and it's gonna 120 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: be Amy Boo Black of beautiful. 121 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: Turlock, California, Central Valley. 122 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: He reserved his most lethlamo for Boo Black in a 123 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: letter that his office leaked to reporters. She first learned 124 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: of the governor's letter from a political reporter thirty or 125 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: forty minutes before I got it in my email. Once 126 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: she read it, I thought, quote, this is crazy. This 127 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: man knows nothing about homelessness, homelessness. He's going to talk 128 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: to me, of all people. Newsom said to Boo Black in. 129 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: The letter, it is imperative that the city reconsider its 130 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: priorities and demonstrate the kind of collaborative, accountable, and solution 131 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: oriented leadership. 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: That this crisis demands enough do your job. Here's what 133 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: brought that on. The mayor's sin and the action that 134 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: brought her to gavvy Boy's attention, her refusal to spend 135 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: the symbolic sum of one dollar that would have unlocked 136 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: a county homelessness homelessness grant of two hundred and sixty 137 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars in state money. Now reporters, of course, 138 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: dutifully conveyor belted the governor's letter into the state's largest 139 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: news outlets, and Newsome then promoted their stories on x 140 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: truly a lack of ridiculous, lack of local leadership, on 141 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: absolute moral failure, he declared, throwing the amy bublacks of 142 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: the state under the bus for his policies. California has 143 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: invested billions to combat homelessness in Turlock. 144 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: Their only shelter is at risk over a single dollar. 145 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: The state has done its part. Local leaders need to 146 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: step up. 147 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: So why would this monstrous woman not spend a dollar? Well, 148 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: she explained that that two hundred and sixty seven thousand 149 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: dollars of California taxpayer money laundered through the county and 150 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: then to we care a homeless shelter in Turlock would 151 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: have come with no accountability. People who live in the 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: homes near the center have complained for months about the 153 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: shelter's residents, who are not supposed to be in the facility. 154 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: During the day. 155 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: They pee and poop and shoot up in the neighborhood. 156 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: They steal from people's garages, the rest of it. And 157 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: so the mayor says, quote Turlock City councilor requested a simple, 158 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: reasonable condition that we Care expand access to bathrooms twenty 159 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: four hours a day. Despite multiple discussions where we Care 160 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: appeared amenable to this condition, they refuse to make the commitment. Instead, 161 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: they chose to attend two council meetings and publicly attack 162 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: the council majority, believing public pressure and threats would override 163 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: the override thoughtful decision makings. And we respect their efforts 164 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: in addressing homeless this, but it's clear that change in 165 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: direction was needed. We could not in good conscience support 166 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: a grant that did not address core community concerns or 167 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: deliver greater accountability. In other words, no more unaccountable quarters 168 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: of a million dollars. These people don't listen, They're not accountable. 169 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: This is obscene and it's not helping the homeless people 170 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: quote unquote who actually need help. I'm blowing the whistle 171 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: on this well found out. 172 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: For that, Gavin Newso attacked. As we found out last year, 173 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 2: tens and tens and tens of gazillions of dollars have 174 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: been spent all over the state without anybody paying any 175 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: attention to whether it did any good or not. There 176 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: wasn't even a mechanism for it. That's right. 177 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: When they tried to figure out whether there had been 178 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: any results, Gavin Newso had to admit, no, we don't 179 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: even have way to figure that out. Yeah, and Amy said, no, 180 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: we're not going to continue down the same path that's 181 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: ruining our town. I'm calling this out. And for that, Gavey, 182 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: who's naked lust for the Oval office is just embarrassing, 183 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: decided to go ahead and punch way down to stomp 184 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: Amy Boublack to support his presidential aspirations. 185 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: Man, he's in a tough place given state of California 186 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: over the last several years. I don't know how he 187 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: I don't know how he runs away from it. I 188 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: don't think he can so. 189 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: No, he's a clever son of a gun for sure, 190 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: and he will try very hard, but I just think 191 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: there's too much weight, you know. I tweeted a great 192 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: picture of a bunch of junkies laying in their own 193 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: filth and garbage everywhere, with the California State Capitol in 194 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: the background. It was taken on Capitol Avenue, Capitol Street, Kepital. 195 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: Very easy to do, Oh yeah yeah, and I captioned it. 196 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: I think you know, Gavin Newsom for president in twenty 197 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: twenty eight. All fifty states can live the Californian. Uh, 198 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: there's no way he can run away from his record. 199 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: He'll try, but he will feel miserably and it will 200 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: be a bitterly enjoyable to watch. 201 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. 202 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: I hope the Good Lord grants me enough years that 203 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: I witness it personally. 204 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: Why are you trying to? Eighty six forty eight? So 205 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: did the Secret Service actually go see James Comy? I 206 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: don't know. He didn't interview this morning. Was there anything 207 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: interesting Hanson there? Comy? I feel like that really revealed 208 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: the Komy being even more of a dip best than 209 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: I thought. What'd you do that for? You? Moron? Wow, 210 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: you have no judgment whatsoever. I always thought his judgment 211 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: was poor, but it's incredibly poor. 212 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: I think if Komy thought he could get away with it, 213 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: he would go around in a crown in a long 214 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: purple rome trimmed in white and black ermine. 215 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna read this tweet I came across and if 216 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 2: you have to be a certain sort of person to 217 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: even get it, but it's pretty good. Tapper's book is 218 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: like All the President's Men if it didn't name any 219 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: of the men and was written by John Erlikman. That 220 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: is pretty good if you know you that. That's really good. 221 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: More on the way, stay here. 222 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 5: And gas price is dropping heading into the Memorial Day 223 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 5: holiday weekend. 224 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: There's some good news. 225 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 5: Triple A reporting the national average for gas now at 226 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 5: three dollars eighteen cents a gallon. That's down forty two 227 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 5: cents a gallon from last year. 228 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: Wow, in time for Memorial Day weekend driving season. That's 229 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: pretty bad chilling. I'm gonna drive further and faster because 230 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: gases the cheap. 231 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: Exactly, I'm gonna throw a tow a trailer, nothing in it. 232 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: He'll put some bricks in it. We have breaking Jordan 233 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: Hudson News. 234 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: That's the uh young hotty chick Dayton Bill Belichick, who's 235 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 2: fifty years older than her. Right, she is told at 236 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: least one person they are engaged. Oh, why here, wedding 237 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: bells are ringing. Wow, he's going to marry her. 238 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: Will can't hear the wedding bells because he's deaf because 239 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: he's old? 240 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, I hope he He's got a pre nup going, 241 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: or he didn't care. He's old enough he didn't care. 242 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. Ye, his kids probably care. Does 243 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: he have kids? I have no idea if he does. 244 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 2: They're older than her by a lot, certainly, yes, yeah, yeah, 245 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: most likely his kids would be what fifty, she's roughly 246 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: she's roughly reproducing age at twenty four, right, so they'd 247 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: be between forty and fifty. 248 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: Probably her, his guess. And he didn't have any kids 249 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: till he was thirty. But yeah, well, yeah, they're certainly 250 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: older than her, significantly by a lot. 251 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: Is he going to have her? Have them? Call her mom? 252 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: His kids are old enough that if they were dating her, 253 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: you'd think, really, you take he'll start a family with her. Uh, 254 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: that's a good question. 255 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: If she wants a kid, yes, and if he's unsnipped. 256 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: I have a friend probably listening right now, who is 257 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: a fairly large chunk older than his current girlfriend, not 258 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: like Bill Belichick, but pretty big chunk who and she 259 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: is interested in having kids, and he's willing to go 260 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: along at his age. Yeah, says I'm a good dad, 261 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: So why not? Wow. Speaking of that sort of thing 262 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: and time going by, I'm trying to decide. I got 263 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: to come up with some sort of family vacation idea 264 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: for me, Sam and Henry this summer where I think 265 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: could be the last big summer vacation because he's Sam's 266 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: gonna start working next year, and I know when I 267 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: started working, I didn't go on the family vacations after that, 268 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: I worked. So manny goes by fast. I know everybody 269 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: says that, but it's the reason everybody says that is 270 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: because it's so true. 271 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: And because we were amazed, as amazed as you are now, 272 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: So go ahead and express your amazement. 273 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: You should. It's amazing. Yeah. It's a weird thing, the 274 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: way the mind works that way, isn't it. 275 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 276 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: I suppose is there a reason? Is it just a 277 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: Is there a reason for that? Is there an evolutionary 278 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: reason for that? Or is just a factor of time 279 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: and age. 280 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: Well, time flies when you're having fun, time flies when 281 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: you're completely engaged. 282 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's it. I think that's it. You think 283 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: time goes by faster when you're busy. I suppose that's sure. 284 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 285 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: Anybody who's ever you know, had like a retail job, 286 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a pain in the ass when it's busy, 287 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: but it's worse when it's not. 288 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: Because the minutes just drag. I think it's got something 289 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: to do with how long the days are when you're 290 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: raising kids two, because the individual day is so long 291 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: and so tiring, and they still kind of are, uh 292 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: that the idea of that going by fast just doesn't 293 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: quite make sense, but it does anyway. 294 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: Well, and I'm spitballing this obviously, but there's also not 295 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: a ton of time at the end of the day 296 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: to pause and reflect on the realities of parenting and 297 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: what it all means in the grand Hey, the kid's 298 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: got to be a band practice and at six thirty 299 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, So can you quit flasfizing and turn. 300 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: Out the light? What do you mean you don't know 301 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: where your shoes are for your band outfit? You know 302 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. Yeah, exactly endlessly. Oh god, my 303 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: oldest has my ability to keep track of things and uh, 304 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: you know whatever genetic I mean, that's something I wish 305 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: they could have identified in utruo and we could have 306 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: used crisper technology to fix. I don't care about eye 307 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: color or whatever that the can't keep track of things 308 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: gene Oh boy, no boy, where's your ban shirt? I 309 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: don't know what do you mean? You don't know? How 310 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: do you know? Or wash it? I want to bring 311 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: back up again the whole Chinese spy thing from sixty 312 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: minutes at some point. That's such a huge story that 313 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: I don't feel well. It didn't get much attention because 314 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: of Biden's cancer and a bunch of other things. But 315 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: among other things we need to talk about. Hope you 316 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: stick around, Armstrong and getty. 317 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 6: Hijin Ping probably remembers that a lot of revolutions start 318 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: outside the home country, and he doesn't want that to 319 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 6: happen to China, So there's a huge effort to pay 320 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 6: attention to the expatriot population. 321 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: I thought that first story in sixty Minutes Sunday Night 322 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: was so good, and I think it would have gotten 323 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: quite a bit of attention had it not been for 324 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: the Biden cancer thing breaking like late afternoon and then 325 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: being the only story the next day. 326 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: I wonder, just because the among the media is many sins, 327 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: is the sin of being terrified of criticizing anything foreign, 328 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: including Chinese espionage espionage agents, which we'll get into in 329 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: a minute. 330 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, the long and short of the story is China 331 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: is spying on us in a way that like practically 332 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: no country has ever spied on any other country in 333 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: the history of the world. And the stakes are very, 334 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: very high and h and we're kind of like not 335 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 2: paying enough attention to the extent to which China is 336 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: not one one hundredths of the attention we ought to 337 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: be paining being close. But they featured a couple of 338 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: different things. They featured. One they talked about that jail 339 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: jails that China had in our country in cities around America, 340 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: including in New York City. That should have gotten more attention. 341 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: We should have whoever was president at the time should 342 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: have gone aps over that. That is not something you 343 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: put up with a foreign country. Putting a jail in 344 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: your country and grabbing people off of your streets and 345 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: locking them up should not be something. 346 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: That you allow and whisking them off to the old country. 347 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes are just beating them and terrorizing them into capitulation. 348 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they also had this old guy who was 349 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: clearly a spy. She was going to talk more about 350 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: spies here in a little bit, But it's a Chinese 351 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: spy who was here, and he was doing it for 352 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 2: money mostly, is that what he was getting on? Anyway, 353 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: I was going to bring up the point because we 354 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: got onto the Joe and I during the commercials talking 355 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: about the numb nuts maintenance worker at the jail in 356 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: Louisiana who helped those people escape, and we were wondering. 357 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: What they wouldn't be able to tie it back to him, 358 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: and we were wondering. 359 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: What his motivation was, if he got paid or whatever. 360 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: And it just reminded me. I thought of that when 361 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: I was watching the Chinese spy thing on sixty minutes. 362 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: I've read a lot about your old timey spies, in 363 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 2: particular the great Kim Philby, one of the most famous 364 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: spies of all time. During World War two and after. 365 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 2: He was a brit and was spying for the Soviet 366 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: Union and ended up escaping to the Soviet Union and 367 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: lived out the rest of his life there. But all 368 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: of these, there's all kinds of motivations for spies, and 369 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: some of them are just dumb, and it's just kind 370 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: of a I'm smarter than you, and I'm gonna show 371 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: you how much smarter than you I am. Sometimes it's 372 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: just flat cash. Sometimes you believe the ideology of the 373 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: people you're spying for, but that seems to be rare. 374 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: It seems to be more of a you're just like 375 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 2: angry at the power structure you grew up with, like 376 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 2: your parents. Sometimes at your parents, sometimes it's your teachers, 377 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: sometimes at your company, and you just want to strike 378 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: back at them. Rebel without a com Yeah, yeah, it's 379 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: it's a weird psychology of people that are willing to 380 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 2: do this sort of thing. 381 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: And when you, you know, hear about a read about 382 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: it in retrospect, you think you took that enormous a 383 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: risk to scratch that itch doesn't. 384 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: Make any sense? No, No, I mean people sell out. 385 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Their country and earn themselves the rest of their lives 386 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: in a cage in Supermax in Colorado for one hundred 387 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, right, Seriously, what are you gonna buy a 388 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: nice pickup truck in the insurance for three months for it, 389 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: and that's the You're gonna spend the rest of your 390 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: life in a cage like you're a beast. 391 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: Good decision. Yeah. And then sometimes, I mean, like with China, 392 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: you have the situation where they will try to force 393 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 2: you to spy. Sixty Minutes pointed this out by the 394 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: leverage they have over your family back home or you 395 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: being able to come back. 396 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: The Free Press has a great long piece I think. 397 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we can post the link, you'll probably get paywalled. 398 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: Maybe sign up for their newsletter. You can read it. 399 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't remember how it orks. I subscribe. 400 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: We subscribe because it's so great. But the Free Press 401 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: is writing about specifically Stanford University and how they have 402 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: well they describe at first how this one gal was 403 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: almost recruited by the Chinese Ministry of State Security. The 404 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: ms jack come in at earlier today. We should know 405 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: that better than the KGB. The KGB is a relic 406 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: of history. The MSS is in your town right now, 407 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: trying to spy on you and yours well. 408 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: As the guy in sixty minutes said, it's the biggest 409 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 2: that sort of thing network in the history of the world, 410 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: makes the KGB like look like nothing. 411 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: You know what, I think I lied to you off 412 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: the air jack. I think we have not yet played 413 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: one O two. Let's play one O two, Michael. 414 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 6: It's sort of the equivalent of the CIA, but it 415 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 6: has much greater powers. One estimate says the MSS might 416 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 6: have six hundred thousand employees and they are committed to 417 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 6: going after the United States. 418 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: We are target number two for them. Who's target number one? 419 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 6: Target number one is China's own people. When Chi Jinping 420 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 6: wakes up screaming in the middle of and I, he's 421 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 6: really worried that the Chinese Communist Party was on the path, 422 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 6: that the Soviet Communist Party was high. 423 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: So that's an interesting nugget, but worked target number two. 424 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: That's honor enough for me that the communist Chinese are 425 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: that interested. But so this piece in the Free Press, 426 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: let me just read you a little bit of it. 427 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: For years, concerns about Chinese espionage have quietly persisted at Stanford, 428 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: yet until now, no attempt has ever been made to 429 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: gauge how pervasive it is. The answer we discovered after 430 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: a year long investigation is very pervasive. After interviewing multiple 431 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: Stanford professors, students, and China experts, virtually all of whom 432 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: requested anonymity fearing retaliation. Wow, we could pause there and 433 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: discuss that for a minute. And they don't mean by 434 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: the communist Chinese necessarily, they mean retaliation by the woke. 435 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: Oh wow courses of California, r of Stanford. Yeah, I 436 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: brought up to the idea to a friend of mine 437 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: was quite the progressive who worked in university setting the 438 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: idea of Chinese spies, and there like I was a 439 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: crazy right wing conspiracy nut to think there are spies 440 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: in the university setting, finished the sentence. 441 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: After interviewing multiple Stanford professors blah blah blah request at 442 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: anonymity fearing retaliation, we found overwhelming evidence that the CCP 443 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: is orchestrating a widespread spying operation at Stanford. According to 444 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: Stanford experts on Chinese intelligence gathering, experts are efforts. Rather, 445 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: the CCP is employed a crowdsourced approach to gathering information 446 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: at Stanford, dubbed non traditional collection. The MSS uses civilians 447 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: unaffiliated with the intelligence community to acquire and report sensitive information. 448 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: The aim of non traditional collectors isn't necessarily to steal 449 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: classified documents, but rather to quietly extract and know how 450 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: behind American innovation. And if you know anything about the 451 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: Chinese all of society effort to gain supremacy in the world, 452 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: there's a mirror image of it in their intelligence collection efforts. 453 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: It is classified documents and top secret weapons systems and 454 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: clandestine pictures at military basis. It's also austrial espionage, stealing 455 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: of patents in the latest from Nike golf Club. 456 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 457 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: And it's also just knowing everything that's happening in the US, 458 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: compiling it, cross referencing it because they don't know when 459 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: they need it, but they might, which is why the 460 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: Chinese have a file I'm told on a huge number 461 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: of prominent or influential Americans. I flatter myself that maybe 462 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: there's a file on us. Probably not, but I would 463 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: be honored. 464 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: Can you tell your soul's desire for freedom? 465 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 466 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: I try every day for freedom. I try every day, sweetheart. 467 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: Stanford hardly the only university where the CCP is using 468 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: this approach happening across the country, indeed around the world, 469 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: is Matt Turpin, former US National Security Council Director for China, 470 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: put it recently, and I quote, the Chinese state uses 471 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: Chinese students inside the United States to violate conflicts of 472 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: commitment and conflicts of interest to provide the kind of 473 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: technologies they would otherwise be denied through export control. In 474 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: many ways, the Chinese government chooses to weaponize their own 475 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: citizens to do those sorts of things. And it's a 476 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: compliment to Stanford's you know, reputation as a center for 477 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: innovation and technology that it's one of the prime targets. 478 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: They can learn so much there, AI and robotics, intelligence, 479 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean software research methodologies, lab workflows, collaborative structures, even 480 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: communications channels. 481 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: They're getting a lot out of it. 482 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: But again, as I've said many times, just to summarize, 483 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: although I could talk about this all day, our universities 484 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: in particular are absolutely infested with official, unofficial, and future 485 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: Chinese espionage agents. 486 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely hundred percent true. In the course, so 487 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: problem is that there's a lot of Chinese Americans, people 488 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: who grow up in China are now Chinese Americans who 489 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: hate China. I'm thinking of our friend ying Ma, she 490 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: went to Stanford actually stand for law school. She hates 491 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 2: the Chinese Communist party, she grew up in China. Lots 492 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: of people like that, and so you end up with 493 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: that whole you know, black bald communists, witch hunt problems. 494 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes you can't assume everybody who has a Chinese name 495 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: at your university is a spy because some of them 496 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: hate China more than you do, and for good reasoning, 497 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: but a lot of mar So then then what do 498 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: you do? Yeah? 499 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely true. Well, but again I cannot. I'm not going 500 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: to hesitate to call out the reality of it because 501 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: I fear somebody is gonna go nuts and you know, 502 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: have some sort of uh Chinese witch hunt thingy. 503 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we've we've got to call out reality. Sure, 504 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: and certainly pretending it's some sort of conspiracy theory that 505 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: China's spying on us watch sixty minutes from someday night. 506 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 2: Well right, Uh, it's absolutely not a conspiracy theory. 507 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's unmitiged, hated, undeniable fact. 508 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: It's like gravity at this point. 509 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: But the reason I threw in future Chinese ESPIONA agents 510 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: in my descriptions was and I say this with sympathy, 511 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: but just reality, because I believe in protecting our homeland. 512 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I'm a Chinese grad student. We 513 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: got no interest in politics at all. I'm starting to 514 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: really really like the United States. In fact, maybe I'm 515 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: even a Chinese American citizen. I'm an American citizen with 516 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: Chinese ethnicity, or I was a child of Chinese, yeah, 517 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: whatever the status is. And then this, you know, this 518 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: article starts with somebody who is calling himself Charles Chen, 519 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: who approached several students. 520 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: He's with the MSS. Pardon me, this guy was with 521 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: the MSS. Yeah, no, yes, yeah. 522 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: But so this Charles Chen puts his hand on my shoulder, 523 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: reaches out to me and slides into my DMS whatever 524 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: the method of approaches, and he says, hey, yeah, I 525 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 1: understand you're involved in some really interesting research in robotic 526 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: and AI and stuff. 527 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by that. Blah blah blah. 528 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: And then he starts making more and more intrusive requests 529 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: of you that turn into demands to take pictures and 530 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, reproduce blueprints and that sort of thing, and 531 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: and you say, you know what, I'm not uncomfortable. I'm 532 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: not comfortable with this. I can't do this anymore. And 533 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: he says, gosh, you know your mom and Shinjang really 534 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: struggling to uh to pay your taxes and the authorities 535 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: are about to come. 536 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: Down hard on her. 537 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean she's gonna lose her house. I could probably 538 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: look into that, and that's that's like the gentle version 539 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: of it. And then that young person who again I'm 540 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: not gonna hunt no witches, but that person who had 541 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: no intention of ever in their life becoming an MSS 542 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: agent is an MSS agent. 543 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: Do you think China wins this twin us? With us? 544 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: In China, they're winning, right, I think they're winning too. Yeah, 545 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: do they win? And ultimately. 546 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: No, but that might be the wishes being the father 547 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: of my thoughts. 548 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said earlier, if it's no, it's because 549 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: of their own internal problems like with the population and 550 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: their economy and all that sort of stuff. If it 551 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: weren't for that, I absolutely think they'd win. We're decadent, uh. 552 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: Stupid, stupid speaking for myself, right, society In the long 553 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: long run, I like our chances. 554 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: But I will just say this then I'll shut up. 555 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: If the pooh hits the fan, maybe it's Taiwan gets invaded. 556 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, whatever causes China to say. Now it's 557 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: I will not be the least bit surprised. If our 558 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: cell phones go off, our lights go off, our water 559 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: systems shut down, ours shut down, our computers, and our 560 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: banking systems all stop within an hour of each other, 561 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: I will be horrified, but I won't be the least 562 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: bit surprised. And I think if anybody, particularly anybody in charge, 563 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: would be surprised, they haven't been paying attention and they 564 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: suck at their job. 565 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: You're right, I would be horrified, but I wouldn't be 566 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: I can't believe this happened at all. 567 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: No, I would be horrified, disgusted, and this is a 568 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: character flaw, but somewhat smugly satisfied that I've been predicting 569 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: this for a long time. 570 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: And now, you dumb mother. 571 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: Oh lord, I almost said something unforgivable. Now you know 572 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: it's true. God, we are so fat and lazy. 573 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be thinking, I'm afraid that would happen. We'll 574 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: finish strong next. Don't we have breaking news? Michael breaking news? 575 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: Donkey breaking news? No, when news breaks the Donkey brace, 576 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: it's official. Bill Belichick, former coach of the Patriots, and 577 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: that Jordan what's her name? Are engaged? Oh? Wow? Wow? Okay? 578 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: Uh from his standpoint, and why not you know it's 579 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: toward the end of his life, probably in love? Happy's 580 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: what's sound like? Nicols? 581 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: Remember Anna Nicole Smith and that eighty eight year old 582 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: oil guy way back in the day. 583 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: They're almost fifty years apart. If you don't know the 584 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: story her, you're marrying a guy, you're gonna have a 585 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: maximum of like ten years where you can do stuff together. 586 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: Then you're taking care of him till he dies five 587 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: to ten years after that. Yeah, staff is Yeah. And 588 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: also I had another question, Oh, I wonder who was 589 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: pushing it? Was she pushing it, like, hey, you need 590 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: to if you're not serious about this, I need to 591 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: move on. 592 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: Or was he? 593 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: I wonder who pushed putting a ring on that thing? 594 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: Huh right, somebody who's pushing it? 595 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 5: And now final faults Tom Strong and Getty engage. 596 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. Low budget, 597 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: low effort. That makes me laugh every time. 598 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. 599 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: Wrap things up to the day. There is our technical 600 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: director of Michelangelo, Michael. 601 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: Well hearing this announcement. I know it my afternoon. I 602 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: got to get the University of North Carolina address, and 603 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go shopping for an ice cream maker. 604 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: So no, you've already checked out the gift for industry, 605 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman. As a final thought, Katie, 606 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: can we have Katie's microphone now with the mic on? 607 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, I you know I control the mic. We 608 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: have an exciting One More Thing was basically what I 609 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: was saying. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. A personal story from 610 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: Katie and One More Thing podcast, So check it out. Jack. 611 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: Final thought for us, Yes, Trump's going to announce today 612 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: the Golden Dome Defense System for the United States. This 613 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: is a huge undertaking. I can't wait to hear the details. Wow. 614 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: Interesting my final thought. 615 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: When Kathy Grew and Jack Black were both young and 616 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: not quite famous, they hooked up a few times. First time, 617 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: she wakes up at his apartment asked for a towel 618 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: so she can take a shower. 619 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 2: He says there's one in there. 620 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: She didn't see one, only saying I only see the 621 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: bath mat on the floor by the shower. He said, yeah, 622 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: that's it. He had one towel that he used for 623 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: drying off and stepping on too. When he came out 624 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: of the shower, she was grossed out, but not enough 625 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: to not sleep with him. A few more times she 626 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: added something like my mom met him and said, my god, 627 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: he looks like a serial killer. This is a great shack Black. 628 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: This is for me watching the Minecraft movie insane. Couldn't 629 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: he wash his face before he does? The movie? So 630 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: greasy and I'm camp I could smell him through the scream. 631 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 2: Darn Armstrong and Getdy wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. 632 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: So many people, thanks a little time. Go to armstrong 633 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: giddy dot com for the hot ling said, drop us 634 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: a note mail bag at armstrong e giddy out tom 635 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: down dot com. 636 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: Pick up some. 637 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: Ang swag for your favorite A ANDNG fan. 638 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: Maybe it's you. Why'd you have to put in my 639 00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: mind picturing those two together, you young love? Oh God, 640 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: bless America. I'm strong and Getty. 641 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: You made it right. Moderns riding a long time if 642 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: they get to choose the team, and they do and 643 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 4: it is to it, but damn it, don't mess with 644 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 4: them in awak unless you want to get the benefit. 645 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 2: Mark my word. Lady, Lady, lady. 646 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 4: What what? 647 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 3: The days of that crap are over and FU if 648 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 3: you can't handle the truth. 649 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: One final message. 650 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 4: Get Ready Bell Repeat, get Ready Bell, Thank you, Bye 651 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 4: bye 652 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty.