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Speaker 3: It is April eighteenth, one week to the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: A busy hour ahead. Well, because it's a week ahead

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Speaker 3: The pre draft media luncheon today featuring Tug Peterson and

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Speaker 3: Trent Balkey. We'll hear from both the head coach and

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Speaker 2: Up shortly earlier in the week.

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Speaker 3: The players back in the building for the offseason program

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Speaker 3: Phase one, Trevor Lawrence and Foyer Lucan. We'll hear from

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Speaker 3: into the studio. Welcome welcome a thousand welcomes. Glad you

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Speaker 2: Thank you. JP was just conversing with a few of

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Speaker 2: I was looking at my watch, going, uh, guys, I

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Speaker 2: There is today Balky and Peterson speaking today, and we're

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Speaker 2: a week to the draft, and there's a lot to

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Speaker 2: discuss today. It's a it's a it's a cool time

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Speaker 2: Hope Springs Eternal. I guess he's saying that you could

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Speaker 2: in every community that these NFL teams are at. And

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Speaker 2: then also with the draft, right around the corner. That

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Speaker 2: provides hope for a lot of teams that haven't been

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Speaker 2: So it's a fun time of year to be an

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Speaker 2: that doesn't have hope Cardinals. Yeah, that's true, there's one. Gosh,

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Speaker 2: on with uh with Terry McDonough Bill, Well, No, he's

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Speaker 2: And then the Cardinals came at him with almost a

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Speaker 3: Let's get to a team that does have a chance,

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Speaker 3: and this is Jacksonville Jaguars, of course, and the GM

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Speaker 2: So he mentioned last year. It actually last year logs,

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Speaker 3: Trade history, either up or down or trading back into

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Speaker 2: And how do you really know? You don't know that.

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Speaker 2: I watched the film on him, and I'm sitting there

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Speaker 2: He's got quickness, he's got sudden this. But man, he's

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Speaker 2: it's a percentage of game. But you know, when I

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Speaker 2: When I watched Clowney coming out, I was like, Clowney,

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't work that way. The other part a

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Speaker 3: But he talked about the different variables that you look

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Speaker 4: You know, we zoom call these guys. We send coaches

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Speaker 3: Plitting ahead, we'll hear from the head coach, Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 5: There's definitely been some conversations, you know, as far as

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Speaker 5: So even if I get the contract extension, that's still

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Speaker 3: That is Trevor Lawrence earlier this week discussing the contract

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Speaker 2: Well. Trent Balkey today discussed the other side of those

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Speaker 3: The full press conference from today available at Jaguars dot com.

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Speaker 3: Let's rewind a little bit back to Tuesday. It was Tuesday, right,

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Speaker 2: as you said, logs a little different on defense, new coordinator,

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Speaker 2: some new faces there. But for Fourier Lukhn he's been

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Speaker 2: around here for a couple of years now. He's trying

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Speaker 2: to make that transition as well. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: new However, he's.

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Speaker 3: Not putting away the disappointment of the disappointment of last

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Speaker 3: season so easily.

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Speaker 7: That would be in a rearview maybe next year after

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Speaker 7: this season. I mean, I got a lot of questions

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Speaker 7: on it throughout the offseason, and it's hard to think about.

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Speaker 2: This win.

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Speaker 7: It even started. We started off winning, but we weren't

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Speaker 7: winning convincingly. How maybe the score mightish, but we knew

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Speaker 7: that we weren't playing our best football, and I think

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Speaker 7: a lot of those things caught up to us. And

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Speaker 7: then trying to right our wrongs a little too late

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Speaker 7: in the season. Then it's a little bit more stressful

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Speaker 7: when teams are hitting their stride and we're trying to

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Speaker 7: find out how to do things right. Yeah, that hurt

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Speaker 7: for sure, and I think it will fewel us. Everybody's

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Speaker 7: committed to doing things right this time around. You know,

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Speaker 7: you don't want to say we don't want to get

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Speaker 7: in that position again. And it starts from the first

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Speaker 7: game all the way to the last, you know, but

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Speaker 7: just keep it improving every week, no matter who this

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Speaker 7: scoreboard is, you know, keeping our standard every week, because

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Speaker 7: sometimes you win games that you didn't play your best.

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Speaker 7: Now you don't learn from them if you're not trying

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Speaker 7: to get better. I think that kind of happened to us,

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Speaker 7: and we're not going to do that this year.

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Speaker 2: Foyer, look can pretty telling answer about how things were

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Speaker 2: last year. That might be the most relaxed I've ever

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Speaker 2: seen him in front of the camera. Usually he's so intense. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's kind of relaxed. It's that time of year though.

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Speaker 2: I get I got this part of it.

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Speaker 3: But maybe the environment's a little different too, right, maybe

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Speaker 3: not going on the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Maybe as he alluded to there it Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: Foy is a super smart guy. You know we were

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Speaker 2: talking earlier about football, like Q you want to talk

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Speaker 2: about football like you? That guy right there if there

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Speaker 2: was a way to mine or to withdraw some of

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Speaker 2: that football IQ and share it with the rest of

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Speaker 2: the team, or yeah, like you'd like take blood out

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Speaker 2: of him, you know, because it's got all that football

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Speaker 2: IQ transfusion. I mean, he's just he's incredible. I mean literally,

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Speaker 2: when you watch the film on him, he is always

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Speaker 2: stepping in the direction that the play is going before

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Speaker 2: the play is actually going in that direction. It's amazing

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Speaker 2: to watch he he is Darryl Smith in Jaguars history.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about special inside linebackers that I really enjoyed watching.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I love the motor of Mike Peterson, Okay,

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Speaker 2: and the guy was just, you know, one hundred miles an

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Speaker 2: hour all the time. Darryl Smith. The consistency, the strength,

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Speaker 2: the the such a rounded game that he could play,

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Speaker 2: the mic, the sam the will, it didn't matter whatever

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Speaker 2: should have left Jacksonville. That's never it was. That was

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Speaker 2: one of the dumbest decisions in Jaguars history, was letting

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Speaker 2: him go anyway. But how watching Foyer on film is

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Speaker 2: pure joy. You can look at his seventy fifth snap

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Speaker 2: of a game and compare it to his first snap,

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Speaker 2: and he's still playing at the same speed. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how anybody can do that. But watching the anticipation

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Speaker 2: that he plays the game with is fun to watch

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Speaker 2: and it's impressive to watch. I think that the people

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Speaker 2: that know football and can really and people that have

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Speaker 2: played the game that like me, that are watching a

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Speaker 2: guy like that, that says something that he's fun to

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Speaker 2: watch just because of that standpoint, the intelligence that he

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Speaker 2: plays this game at in that realm too. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: Paul's yeah. But Paul was one of those guys that

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Speaker 2: he just never wasted a step. So he would wait

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Speaker 2: and then he was just, you know, gone, But he

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Speaker 2: never wasted steps. He didn't anticipate as much as Foyer does.

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Speaker 2: To some extent, he was good, but not quite as

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Speaker 2: fast with that first step. Now, Telvin Smith was always

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Speaker 2: one step behind, but he was so dag him fast

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Speaker 2: getting there, or he would run ahead of it and

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Speaker 2: catch back up because he was so fast. He was

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Speaker 2: amazing just the speed that he played the game at.

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Speaker 2: But I mean pause, Darryl Smith and Foyer, I mean

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Speaker 2: those guys, I mean, that's that's the elite class in

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Speaker 2: Jaguars history. I mean, some really really good players and

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Speaker 2: the other fun part about I know Paul and because

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Speaker 2: Leslie enjoyed this, was that he had eleven interceptions. Well

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Speaker 2: he was there as well. Yeah, one of them. That

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Speaker 2: tells you he's back in coverage and reading things right.

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Speaker 2: And maybe what's the way you remember the most Oh,

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Speaker 2: Peyton Manning right, and he had the love or something

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Speaker 2: on his hand, the weird was going on something, have

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Speaker 2: something going on with his hand and he early in

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Speaker 2: the game picks it off and takes it to the house.

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Speaker 3: But that takes That tells you he's the quarterback. He's

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Speaker 3: back in coverage. He's athletic enough to do all that too.

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Speaker 3: And that's football. IQ pause.

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Speaker 2: I used to love hearing Gus Bradley say pause. It

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Gus Bradley. Side note here before we go

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Speaker 3: to break, Yesterday was the Jags local pro day where

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Speaker 3: they have local prospects from maybe schools around here or

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Speaker 3: they grew up here with Carter Bradley, and Carter Bradley

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Speaker 3: quarterback was here, Gus's son.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's a prospect. He's a possible draft pick, maybe

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Speaker 2: late round pick, possibly undrafted guy, but yeah, he's a

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Speaker 2: diehard fisherman Carter Bradley is so yeah when he was here.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a young man, so he's grown up.

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Speaker 2: All the places that we're always on each and every week.

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Speaker 2: A lot of places, yeah, everywhere, well almost everywhere, with

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Speaker 3: from tonight, looking forward to it. We'll be in the stadium.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think is gonna be the first overall pick? JP?

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a big mystery, is it. That's the

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Speaker 2: Southern cal quarterback we're talking about. Williams is going. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna go second? Just trivia for you? Probably another quarterback?

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Speaker 2: What do you think Jayden Daniels? Probably, I would say

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Speaker 2: probably who's picking second? I don't even know. In Washington,

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Speaker 2: I'll probably go May I take May two, and then

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Speaker 2: there'll be probably Daniels right after that. It's my guess. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: His accuracy this past year was was pretty incredible. Touchdown

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Speaker 2: interception ratio was good. He's athletic. Yeah, he's gonna be

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Speaker 2: fun to watch him. But man, May he's got that

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Speaker 2: those numbers, you know, I mean, sometimes in the numbers

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Speaker 2: you can't let them overrule the performance. But when you

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Speaker 2: watch his tape, he's got that that height that you

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Speaker 2: know that you can see he can he's got a

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Speaker 2: he's got a big arm, he's a big guy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's kind of that prototypical NFL quarterback. I just I'd

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Speaker 2: be surprised if he doesn't go second. But you never know,

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Speaker 2: you never know.

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Speaker 3: So our topic today, three positions the Jaguars should pick

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Speaker 3: up this week or next week rather in the draft,

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Speaker 3: there's a for whatever they will pick them up, whatever

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Speaker 3: three positions they should draft this year, go top.

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Speaker 2: Three and you want them ranked. I want them ranked.

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Speaker 2: I mean right now, if you do it as far

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Speaker 2: as needs go, corner I would put at the top,

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Speaker 2: just because Darius Williams is no longer round. This is

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Speaker 2: a passing league, and right now you need some help

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Speaker 2: in the back end. You got a pretty good amount

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Speaker 2: of depth and quality of play at safety, but corner

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Speaker 2: is where you need help. And you've been trying to

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Speaker 2: get some late round picks to hit over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of years, but really nobody has risen to the front.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's number one. Number two I would

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Speaker 2: say is offensive line, interior or out side. I think

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Speaker 2: either one because and then having a guy that can

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Speaker 2: have some flexibility maybe play inside and then eventually move

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Speaker 2: outside or vice versa, I think is great. You've got

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Speaker 2: to protect from the franchise, and the franchise is your quarterback,

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. And last year you had a deficiency on

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Speaker 2: how physical you were up front, and that needs to

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Speaker 2: be addressed. In my opinion. I have a question side

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Speaker 2: note question. We'll get to number three in a moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's wrong with having a guy that plays one

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Speaker 3: position and you know that's solidified for ten years.

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Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that at all, because you can move

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Speaker 2: somebody else if somebody else has some positional flexibility.

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Speaker 3: I guess that guy is hard to find. Obviously, which

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Speaker 3: one Which guy's hard for? The one guy who's there

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Speaker 3: for ten years that you know is a rock and

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Speaker 3: solid and is going to be a franchise.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I mean, Joe Alt's going to be a

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Speaker 2: rock ten years on tackle. I mean what he's not

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Speaker 2: swinging around? And again, nothing's set in stone because if

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Speaker 2: you remember, I remember going back to my draft classed

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Speaker 2: I think it was, and the front page of the

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Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated was future Hall of Famer Tony Manderich and

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Speaker 2: people are like, this guy's a shoeing of the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame. He's going to be the next great offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: And it didn't happen, you know, I mean, the steroids

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Speaker 2: thing kind of came out. He was an average player

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Speaker 2: at best. I mean, but he was an average player.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so it's not like he was a poor player,

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Speaker 2: but I mean it's one of those things it's hard

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Speaker 2: to find somebody that's going to do that. But Joe

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Speaker 2: Alt from Notre Dame is a guy. If he's available seventeen, JP,

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Speaker 2: i'd probably take him. He's not going to be available

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Speaker 2: at seventeen like.

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Speaker 3: Cam Robinson, right first pick of the second round, and

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Speaker 3: I mean he's been the left tackle for I would tell.

649
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: It, look, the position's corner offensive line. And then the

650
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: third one, I'm gonna just throw it out there because

651
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: I'm not going to give it a specific position because

652
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: it can be on the inside or it can be

653
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: on the outside. You got to have somebody that can

654
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: rush the passer, and right now, I think you don't

655
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: have a lot of depth on the edge. If you

656
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: can get another edge rusher by all means, if look

657
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: if LA two's there at seventeen, I mean there's some

658
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: you were drooling about it last guy and I told

659
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: you about it. He's just crazy good. Jared Verse Florida

660
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: State would be my second best edge rusher. Love them.

661
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: And then you have some some of the smaller guys

662
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 2: that I don't put in those two categories. The kid

663
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: at Alabama, Dallas Turner, I believe his name is. There's

664
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: a kid at Penn State that's pretty good. A chop,

665
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: no chops two. There's another one there, chopped. Well, I

666
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: think where thirty three. It's number twenty at Penn State,

667
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: and I could find it in a minute. But Isaac

668
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: and then, oh gosh, I'm trying to think of who

669
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 2: else there's edge rushers. But I mean those two guys

670
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: are the elite players that you're talking about is law

671
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: To and Jared versus. In my opinion, it's about a

672
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 2: disa Isaac where it's twenty Yes, thank you Penn State.

673
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: So I mean those three positions, corner, offensive line and

674
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: a pass rusher. The interior did the defensive tackles. You've

675
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: got Zrhan Newton and Byron Murphy. I believe it is

676
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 2: from Texas. Newton is from Illinois. These guys are kind

677
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: of interesting in that they're smaller guys. When I say smaller,

678
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: shorter guys, not small, I mean they're both three hundred

679
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: pound guys, but they're shorter. There's six to one, they's

680
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: six two. And some people are comparing Murphy to a

681
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: little bit of Aaron Donald. I don't know if I'd

682
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: go so far to make that comparison, but he's a

683
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: really good football player and Newton obviously Illinois guy. So

684
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: that's the alma mater of Tony Kahan and Shad Khan,

685
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: and so there's a little bit of home bias there,

686
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure, just because he's a good football player from Illinois.

687
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I mean the guy that

688
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: you just brought in, Eric Armstead, six foot six, two

689
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety pounds, that he's got arms that are

690
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: so this long. Right here, JP, that's pretty long. Let

691
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 2: me turn it this way so the cameras can see

692
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 2: that are listening on radio. Just imagine my part on radio.

693
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: He's it's long, my arms are spread wide. But I mean,

694
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: those top two rated guys at defensive tackle, they don't

695
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: have that kind of length. And there's not really a

696
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: defensive tackle that's that's rated as a first round talent

697
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: that has that kind of length. So it'll be interesting

698
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: to see how that that position works out for this team,

699
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: because remember we went into the season, we said they've

700
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: got to get better on the interior of offensive line

701
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: and the defensive line. They got to get more physical.

702
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: We did say that, we'll see can they do it.

703
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

704
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: Clock's about to run out you got to do it

705
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 3: at some point. That was keeping it real. Each week

706
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: we do a draft position preview, and you touched on

707
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: one of the guys in this position group we're going

708
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: to talk about today offensive tackles. I ask you each

709
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: week to pick your top three guys or three guys,

710
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: not three guys.

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00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 5: Three.

712
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start with Joe al of Notre Dame. Who

713
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: you like. He's he's just so big and he's I

714
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: guess he's young, but I don't know the specifics of

715
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: his birthday or anything. But he's like six foot eight,

716
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty two pounds, and he's kind of

717
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: so long that when you watch him get down in

718
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: his three point stance, his butt is like higher than

719
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: his shoulder pads a lot of times. And it's just

720
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: so odd because, like when you watch Baselli get down

721
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: in the stance, he'd be able to have that bend

722
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: and his shoulder pads were above his hips. But make

723
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: no mistake, Joe Alt is a punishing blocker, got tremendous length.

724
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: This guy is I think it's hands down, he's the

725
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: best offensive lineman in the draft. And I mean again,

726
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: it's a percentages game, so I'm not making any guarantees,

727
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: but this is one of those guys that you feel

728
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: like has a chance to be that starter at that

729
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: one position JP for a decade. He's twenty one years

730
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: old by just turned twenty one. Yeah, he's a young

731
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: twenty one. Yeah.

732
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: His dad is John Alt played for the Chiefs from

733
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: eighty four to ninety six.

734
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: I played against his dad. How was he Pretty good?

735
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: Pretty good, big long guy, just like just like Jones

736
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: and the family up here. Yeah, JC Latham Alabama tackle. Yeah,

737
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: and you know, he's not rated amongst the top three

738
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: or four guys on a lot of boards, but man,

739
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: you watch the film on him. First of all, he's

740
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: got the size. He's a six foot six, three hundred

741
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: and thirty five forty pound guy. Somewhere he's big. He's big, okay,

742
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: but he carries it really well. And when you watch

743
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: him on film, he moves effortlessly. I mean, he's just

744
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: a very graceful, big guy that moves very well. I

745
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: think the ceiling is really high for him. I think

746
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: what we've seen from him at Alabama is just I

747
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: think just the tip of the iceberg to use that

748
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: statement there, But I mean I think He's got a

749
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: lot of room for growth. He's a right tackle now,

750
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: it was a right tackle at Alabama. I think he

751
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: could play left, but I think he's very comfortable on

752
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: the right. Leave him at right and in today's NFL

753
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: left tackle right tackle, they both need to be good

754
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: pass protectors. He is a special player just because of

755
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: the grace that he plays the game with, the agility

756
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: that he plays the game with. And it's not very

757
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: often that you have somebody that's six foot six three

758
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: and thirty five forty pounds that moves gracefully. That's not

759
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: easy to find.

760
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: No, it's yeah, it's really tough, and it could tell

761
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: you a lot about what the future could hold for

762
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: Cam Robinson and Walker Little if they were to go

763
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: with this position very early in this draft.

764
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: You know could could And by the way, just a

765
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: side note, he's not in my top three, but Mims,

766
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: the guy from Georgia who has not played a lot

767
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: of Marius Mims. He's a guy that I think could

768
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: be a good second round pick for a team. He's

769
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: he's also got some of that that gift of natural

770
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: size and athleticism as well. But my third guy is

771
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: Fuanga's a last Fuaga Oregon State. It's actually Fuanga. There's

772
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: an n in there that's in the pronunciation, that's not

773
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: in there in the spelling. And this is a big

774
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: mauling right tackle. One of these guys that if you

775
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: want to have a little bit of attitude with your

776
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 2: offensive line, which this offensive line here needs a little

777
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: bit of that, he's gonna provide some of that. The

778
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: one thing that I will say about him is that

779
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna be He's a little over aggressive with his

780
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: past stuff. He gets caught, he gets his arms chopped,

781
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 2: he gets caught leaning, which has me a little bit concerned.

782
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: But he's just got kind of naturally gifted feet the

783
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: way he moves which is fun to watch uh and

784
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: he definitely likes to He's not very nice on the field,

785
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: which is what you like in an offensive lineman, and

786
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: I think that's his biggest strength. And he's just a

787
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: big dude, I mean, naturally big dude. The h The

788
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: other guy that is on the top of many boards,

789
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: which is Troy uh Fought New Fought New from Washington.

790
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm not fo U, t a n u and a

791
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: lot of people are excited about him. And when I

792
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: watch him, I see guard. He's he doesn't have that

793
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: that natural size that Latham or f Wonga has, or

794
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: that Memes has or all he's he's shorter in statute.

795
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: He's got really good hands and really good athleticism. But

796
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: I just, I just I think he could play tackle,

797
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: but I think his natural spot as guard, and I

798
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: think he's got a really natural movement to him. I

799
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: think he would be better suited to playing guards. Did

800
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 2: you look at Olu fashion U from Penn State tackle?

801
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: I did, and he's he's big. I mean, he's naturally big.

802
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: Don't watch the Ohio State game. Don't watch it, noj JP.

803
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, Touey mooloow for two years in

804
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: a row, rip that offensive line to shreds, including him,

805
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: And there's when I want when I didn't. Well, there's

806
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: a reason many team people have him rated in his

807
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: in the top three because he's a left tackle. There's

808
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: something about him that's a little off. Like when he sets,

809
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: he doesn't gain a lot of ground with his sets,

810
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: So he's kicking but he's not gaining a lot of ground.

811
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: And then so a lot of times he ends up

812
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: having to turn to catch up to chase a guy.

813
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: And when an offensive tackle turns to chase a guy,

814
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: he's essentially opened than the gate shortening the corner. And

815
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: he's a he's a little stiff, a little stuff. And

816
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: that's why I have he wasn't on your list, why

817
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: he wasn't on my list? Many people had him up there.

818
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: He's a big guy. Now he's six foot six, you know,

819
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: and and but again it's there's something a little bit

820
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: too mechanical. And then again the steps don't seem.

821
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: To be as fluid. There you have it, I look

822
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: at offensive tackles. We're back in a moment with Microsoft

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Speaker 2: Tough way to end for me.

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Speaker 8: Did everything that I could to try to get back, but.

828
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: Just a couple of weeks behind. But I'm feeling really good.

829
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 8: I spent about a month here after the season just

831
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 8: trying to get my body back to the place that

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00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 8: it needed to be. And you know, I'm paying free now,

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00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 8: and you know, just happy to be back in the

834
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 8: building around the guys and just you know, with a

835
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 8: new mindset and new mentality to just bounced back from

836
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 8: last year.

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00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: Obviously we didn't.

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00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 8: Meet the expectations that we had for ourselves, and you know,

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00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 8: we have a chip on our shoulder and we're gonna

840
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 8: come in every day in off season program and work

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00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 8: towards that.

842
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk caught up with him in the hallway yesterday

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00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: here at the middle of Electric Center, the full conversation

844
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: at Jaguars dot Com. But he had a core muscle

845
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: thing for a while, was trying to play through it,

846
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: and then a groin injury on that Monday night football game.

847
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: First catch of the game, he goes down. He's done

848
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: for the year.

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Speaker 3: Was actually back on the practice field some weeks later,

850
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: which is remarkable, but just couldn't find his way to

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00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,880
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Speaker 3: it's worth saving and he was the key to the

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00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: whole thing on offense. I felt he was gone and

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00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: it was like a totally different world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean you add in, you know, with

857
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: last year the quarterback dealing with a variety of injuries

858
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 2: last year and then losing the most dependable receiving option

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00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: that he had in Christian Kirk. And you know, that's

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00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: kind of was what it was, part of the contribution

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Speaker 2: to one of the worst finishes to a season in

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Speaker 2: franchise history.

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Speaker 3: The worst, Oh, come on, one of it was not even

864
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: trying to be nice.

865
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: Come on, this is what it was. Trying to be nice,

866
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: being nice business is what it was. Alost five or six,

867
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: will go ahead, let everybody three. Everybody knows, everyone's aware.

868
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: Trust me. We run up with the TV and Trevor

869
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: Lawrence talking about Foyer and Trevor talking about how they're

870
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: going to use that as motivation, and then they should,

871
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: I mean they should be better and angry about it,

872
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: because that's I mean, they were at one point, where

873
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: were they eight and three? Yes, and team or people

874
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: around the league were talking about the Jaguars being the

875
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: team to beat in the National Football League, and then

876
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: it was the most epic collapse in franchise history. And

877
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: the Yeah, that should leave a bad taste in your

878
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: mouth and give you a lot of extra motivation going

879
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: into every year in the future.

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00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,560
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Speaker 3: social media questions powered by Microsoft. We put the cat

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Speaker 3: signal out today. Here's the best we've come up with

886
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 3: at Jaggs Fan at seventy two. What are the chances

887
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: of the Jaguars getting the trifecta this offseason? Josh Allen

888
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: signed check extend Trevor Lawrence and the stadium deal. Well,

889
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: I mean the Trevor Lawrence stuff's being talked about.

890
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: I'm I trying to put a number on this. I

891
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: mean the chances, right, I guess chances first of all, percentage.

892
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm not in those discussions, but that Trent Balkey is

893
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: having an all show. As Trent said today, ownership is

894
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: involved in that because the size of the contract is

895
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: going to be probably bigger than the initial value of

896
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: the franchise when it was purchased by Wayne Weavers. Sure,

897
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I'm being dead serious. I mean

898
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: that that's where that contract's probably going to be at

899
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: which is a large number, and the stadium deal. I

900
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: would hope that it gets done. It needs to get done.

901
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: From all reports, it's trending the right way, So I'm

902
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: feeling positive on all fronts. If you a percentage that

903
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: eighty one, you put a number on it, I'll go

904
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: seventy five. It's good. I'll go seventy five, you know,

905
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: seventy seventy five somewhere in that range. Yeah, good, it's good.

906
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I hope it's like one hundred

907
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: ninety nine point nine because there's never a sure thing

908
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 2: in life, you know, So I'll stick with the ninety

909
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: nine point nine because it's April eighteenth. But seventy seventy five?

910
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: What else?

911
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 3: You got a lot of weeks ahead at gt RZ

912
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 3: and seven to one? What is the real difference between

913
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: Doug calling plays versus press calling plays? Ultimately, doesn't Doug

914
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: have final say? From Trevor's comments, it seems he wants

915
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: press with the continuity unless he's just towing the company line.

916
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 2: But I don't get the impression that that Trevor tows

917
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: the company because he feels like he's off with a

918
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: toe company line. So I think that's a little bit

919
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: of a I don't want to say it's an insult,

920
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: but it's it's not very fair. Trevor, I think is

921
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: very open and honest and speaks his mind. And look,

922
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: I get it, and that Doug always has the ultimate authority.

923
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: He's the head coach, and he's an offensive minded head coach. Now,

924
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: what's the difference between Doug or Press calling the plays.

925
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: I think every play caller has a groove, and every

926
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: play caller can be in a groove and then also

927
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: lose the groove. Just like a batter in baseball, you

928
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: feel like you just you know, when you step to

929
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 2: the plate, you're seeing the ball and you're just feeling

930
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 2: the ball and you're making great contact, and then sometimes

931
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: you hit a slump and sometimes you just don't feel

932
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: like that. Hey, I just can't I can't make anything right.

933
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: I can't swing the bat well at all. And I

934
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: think sometimes that happens with a play caller too. You

935
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: know who have the groove in the second half of

936
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 2: games in twenty twenty two, Press Taylor exactly. Yeah, so

937
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he can't call plays. I think

938
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: they're both capable of calling and uh and yes, Doug

939
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: has the ultimate oversight because he's the head coach. Yeah,

940
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: he can veto and he's on the headside. He can

941
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: make suggestions, he can do he can tell Press what

942
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: to do. Hey, Press, By the way, you're gonna call

943
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: z X right thirty four on two and give him

944
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: the snap count as well. I don't mean whatever that

945
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: play call would be. What would that be? You think,

946
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: what's that? That Z whatever you just said? Just making

947
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: it something up, you know, I mean defense. It was

948
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: just so simple. Pirate, Let's run the pirate, Yes, you know,

949
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: over pirate cover three? Okay, break off the offensive terminology.

950
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: Put it this way. If it was if it was

951
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: like an efficiency of use of words, defensive play call

952
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: might be like five words. An offensive play call might have,

953
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 2: you know, and defense would have a combination of words

954
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: the numbers. So I will say five total. I'm not

955
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: gonna talk of offense football IQ of defensive players. Offense

956
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: might have like twelve to fifteen word number combination. It's

957
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Speaker 2: a lot. It's very different.

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Speaker 3: Your Microsoft questions are in. Thank you for the submissions,

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Speaker 3: and thanks for listening.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 2: A week from tonight we'll be doing the draft looking

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Speaker 2: forward to it. I love the draft. I do. I

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Speaker 2: love the draft, and I'm looking forward to I got

964
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Speaker 2: a little reunion next weekend too, JP Quickly nineteen eighty

965
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Speaker 2: four Virginia State High School baseball champions. I have a

966
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: reunion to go to. Wow. Yeah, between the graduate little

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Speaker 2: baseball thing early. Congratulations all right.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaver for Jeff Logoman. I'm

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Speaker 3: JP Shadwick. Thanks to you for listening at Shaguars Happy Hour,

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