WEBVTT - Creed Bratton 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:09.240 I'm Creed Bratton and I played Creed Bratton on the Office. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.600 It's so amazing. It's so amazing. None of those have 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:22.800 been funny before. Hello everyone, this is the Office Deep 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.560 Dive and I am your host, Brian Baumgartner. Today I 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:34.240 am pleased to present to you America's favorite weirdo, Creed Bratton. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.559 I know the Dozeks guy thinks that he is, but 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:44.839 Creed truly maybe the most interesting man on earth. Seriously, 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.479 if you don't know Creed story o, buckle up, folks. 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:54.640 Creed was a professional musician before the Office, like a 0:00:54.720 --> 0:01:00.440 legit toward with the doors musician. And of course he 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.520 is still a musician to this day, though as far 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.480 as I know, he's no longer doing cocaine with Jim 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:14.080 Morrison put more on that shortly. Needless to say, every 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.760 time I get to see Creed is a is a 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:23.040 total delight. In fact, the night before this interview you're 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:29.200 about to hear, Creed invited myself, Angela Kinzie, Rain Wilson 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.600 and others to participate in a benefit concert that he 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:39.520 was giving for the wildfires that were ravaging Australia at 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.560 the time. And let me tell you I'm sure I 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:49.200 was terrible, but Creed was awesome. It was so amazing. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:53.320 I felt transported back in time as he is playing 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:59.000 to an absolute packed house on the Sunset Strip at 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:04.160 the Roxy. It was so fun. Anyway, Uh, sitting down 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:09.760 with Creed for this conversation was strange and wonderful, and 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.600 I hope that it will be for you as well, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.800 both strange and wonderful. And be sure to stay tuned 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.240 at the end of this episode because I brought Creed 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.880 back in for a second interview the first time that's happened, 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.120 because I wanted to talk to him about his song 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.680 Bubble and Squeak and why we chose it to be 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.840 our theme song, the song you're about to hear, So 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:46.000 please welcome to your ears, Mr Creed Bratton, Bubble and Squeak. 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:52.640 I love it, Bubble and Squeak and Bubble and Squeaker, 0:02:52.720 --> 0:03:07.920 cooking it every month, left over from the night before. Hey, 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:15.160 what's happening? Hot stuff? My voice? That done? You know? Yeah? 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.919 You guys rocked, rocked, Thank you man, And it was 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:24.280 a good guy that the people loved it. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:28.200 oh yeah, yeah, here we go. Yeah, I do the 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.840 guy on yours is your volume? Hi, thank you sir, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:36.560 Do do do do one two one two? Hello, Hello, Hello, 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:44.520 he's gonna start singing you guys. Uh, there we are. Hi. Hello, Brian, buddy, 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.240 how are you good? I'm good. Yeah, that was very 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.240 fun last night. It was great. Thank you so much 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.360 for coming. Yes, well you know anything for the animals 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.080 or for you indeed, and for you right right back 0:03:56.080 --> 0:04:00.240 at you VI a V. Yeah. So it's been so 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:06.400 amazingly fun just talking to people. Um, you had for 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.480 four hours. You said I had Greg for four hour, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.560 but it has come to our attention that he talks 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.520 really slow. So I think it's more like an hour 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.960 and forty minutes. It's where there's a train passing through. Ye. Well, 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.880 he's smarter than all of us, without a doubt, without 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.479 a doubt. Okay, So I want to I want to 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:33.440 take you back back. Okay back you started in music, 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.880 you started where you want to go back back to you. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.080 I want to go back. I want to know. I 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.360 want to hear a little bit wob that. I want 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:43.000 all the uterous kind of back. Yeah, all back there, 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:48.600 um okay um born in Los Angeles. Yes, at the 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.720 age of two. If you really want to go back 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:55.320 to this, William Charles Schneider, William Charles Schneider, just like 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.520 it said on the thing when I had the passport thing, 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.840 It's all true. All this stuff is true. All this 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.920 stuff about killing people. I'm sorry to say, is there 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.920 a statute of limitations on murder? I think that's the 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:10.680 only thing maybe I shouldn't discuss. I don't discuss that. Probably. Wait, um, 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.159 do you go by William Charles Schneider at all? My 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.760 passport says it doesn't. Really, Yeah, my passport says it. Yeah, 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.120 because you've never officially changed your name. Well, it's my 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.599 My lawyers and everybody says, it's just a house. You 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:23.919 have to go to court and do it. I've been 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.800 trying to do it, but say just it's say, it's 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.560 really a lot of hassle. So my passport says William Charles, 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.800 I fly over to Europe under that you know name. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:36.000 What about your license here it's Creed Bratton. Yeah, and 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.440 then he goes, he goes back and forth. You know, 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.000 I haven't running from the law for years, you know that. Well, 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:46.000 that's that joke. It's not surprised, you know exactly. Um, okay, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.719 so was your was your first big year, I mean, 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:53.080 was your first band the grassroots? No, my goodness, gracious, Okay, 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:54.760 so my my I was born in l A. My 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:59.000 father died in the war. Moved up to course school, California. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.400 By the age of third teen, I started playing guitar. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.800 I mean I had played trumpet for years, and I 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.480 was first chaired all the way through grammar school and 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.800 high school and stuff like that. And I read music. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:14.800 And then my grandfather, Charles, he played guitar in a 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.720 country and Western man and my grandmother played drums called 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.560 the Happy Timers. Then I had a band called the 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.599 tour Case. We played seventeen. I was working professionally with 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.800 this band, playing lead guitar, playing all songs from the 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.839 fifties and stuff. Yeah, up in bass Lake, California. And 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.640 then I had a band called the Leanders, which means 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.800 Greek Lovers. I was in college and I and I 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.719 always played to make money, you know. That's how I 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.839 got got through school to play guitar. And that was 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.240 a drama major at Sacramona State and I had another 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.200 band there. But right at the end of college, I 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.000 went off to Europe and then I got joined a 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.480 group called the Young Californians, and that was the band. 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.800 I traveled around for almost two and a half years 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:59.000 in Europe, North Africa, the Red Curtain countries, Israel. We 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:04.039 worked on a casting shout a movie there with Frank Sinatra. Yeah, 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.320 I did. I I still remember Frank Sinatra coming to me. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.800 I was just like a early twenties kids, you know, 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.400 working on the set and I had my hand on 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:13.880 this board which I didn't know it was going to 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.120 be exploded with with the squibs and stuff. He comes 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:18.600 up and said, hey kid, and he's spoke in a 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.240 cigarette and he said, kid, you can blow your hand up, 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:22.720 put your hand on the thing. I said what. He 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.080 just moved me away. It was my only Frank Sinatra movement. Movement, 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.000 that's true. He saved your life, He saved my hand. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:34.960 That's what this is? What right, Frank Sinatra saved Yes, 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.560 you're you're right, you're you're you're good at this promo thing. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.320 So then, uh, Then I got back to Europe while later, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.160 and I had a band called the Umte Floor not 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.320 to be confused with the Austin Man the thirteenth Floor Elevator, 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.000 which was a big band. It would have confused me, 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.760 well confused to most people. And we were playing at 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.040 the London Fog right next to the Whiskey Go Go, 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.440 and we've been playing over a year and we had 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.240 a chance to become the Grassroots. First song, Live for 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.520 Today goes right up the charts and they were off. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.640 That was your first song. That was the first song 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.640 was Live for Today, and I was I played guitar 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.160 worn that and they played guitar on that. My friend 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.200 Bobby Ray played bass, and the Great Session Drumber hal 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:18.120 Blaine played drums on it. Wow. Yeah, the Wrecking Crew 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.080 and I used to play with the Wrecking to a lot. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.120 You know, they'd be hard, they had hope kind of things. 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.160 They bring in different people and we play with them. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:25.800 That's one of the reasons I left the band is 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.320 because we came back from tour about the third album 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.680 and they'd cut some tracks without me, you know, and 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.400 I went and they said, well, this is the way 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:35.720 they do it. I said, well, no, I don't. I 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.200 don't like this at all because I play so I 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.679 didn't like. Yeah, that was the deal. Interesting and so 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.360 you were with the Grassroots for how long? Four albums 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:52.480 from sixty seven sixty sixty six to seventy. Okay, yeah, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.560 so you you were the biggest star on the set 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.640 of the Office. Before the Office, you were kind of 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.920 the only least well, I would say that about the 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.760 time arrived there with Steve Carrill on the four year 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.560 Old Virgin. He was it starts after we started. I 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.880 think you were the biggest star. Well, I I like 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.760 you like the thing about you know me? Yes, I 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:15.720 like the way you put you putting this Are you 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.440 did you well? No, but it's true. I mean it 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.559 might be technically true as far as pop culture. Yeah, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.640 you had. I mean you had lived a rock star 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:30.120 life for yeah years, yeah, for years likely to be alive. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:35.840 My friend, I remember in a very Creed Broughton way, 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.439 meaning you and your character on the show John Krasinski 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.800 and I talked about this all the time, you walking 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.680 in and beginning to tell a story and truly going 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.640 that story is so outlandish it can't possibly be true. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.720 But maybe it is. And I think you did both. 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.840 I think you told stories that I might have embellished 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.480 a movement. Brian, do you know? But I know I 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.880 don't have to be much you don't. But my son 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.000 parted with Jim Morrison of course. Yeah. The Doors by 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.760 John Densmore, the drummer was my best man at my wedding. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.360 I hung out with that band all the time we 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.719 toured together. Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's all real. I mean, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:21.800 that's that's all real. Yeah, it's all real. So you 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:27.520 become an actor and you um studied with the method. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.440 Charles Conrad. I did a bunch of stuff before the Office. 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.200 People just think that that was my first thing. But 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.520 if you look at IMDb, I've done a bunch of 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.880 stuff twincies and eight is Enough, and a bunch of 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:43.160 TV movies and things. You know. John Crosby and there Will, 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.280 the famous agent, saw me at the Odyssey Theater. I've 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.680 done a play with bow Bridges, you know, and I 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.599 had my hair, you know, it's kind of kind of attractive, 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.480 you know, and very very confident. So he signed up 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.400 and I didn't have to go out anything. He just said, 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:58.400 you got a job over here. Back in those days, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:10:59.760 they we just said you got a job over here. 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.360 And I was just working for a couple of years 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.040 wow with him. And then immediately prior to the Office, 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.800 you were working with Ken Kappas and I met Ken 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.680 on Bernie Matt Show. He came on the show and 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.480 he was a big Grassroot fans. So he sent out 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.520 to Amibre Records for me to sign some albums for him, 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.640 and I found he was like encyclopedia of pop knowledge. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.840 Ken knows all that stuff he does, he does and 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.080 I healed it off. He's such a sweetheart. We know 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.120 we love Kim. So I heard from Joe that he 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.960 was directing uh the Office in American Workplace, and I went, 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.720 I loved the Ricky Gervais things. So I did something 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.600 I've never ever done. Brian. I called. He gave me 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.599 his number. I called the director up and he was 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.960 he wasn't that starting? Oh? I said, look, I just 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.720 heard you were doing the show. I loved the Ricky 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.719 Gervais show so much. I said, is there any way 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.520 I could come and read for something over there? And 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.640 he went, you know what? He said, where can let 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.120 me talk to Greg? He calls me back? He said, 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.560 I told him we were a very interesting guy, and 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.960 he said I think I think he said. He said, well, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:03.920 if he's that interesting, let's see if we can work 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.640 him into the mix. His words were work him in 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.359 the mixer. There. I mean, you know, in the background 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.080 at the desk the first season, and I read right away. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.560 I felt very comfortable with everybody, you know. So when 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.600 I saw what I had to do, I wrote a scene. 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.320 I wrote a bunch of talking heads and shot about 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.080 hours where the stuff ad lebed a bunch of stuff, 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.719 wrote all this crazy stuff and cut it down to 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.880 about five or seven seven minutes or so, gave it 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.400 to Greg. You did this yourself, Yeah, yeah, I did 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.440 it all myself, did all myself. Okay, no, wait, all right, wait, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:40.200 christ hold on. So you're in your in the back, 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.360 in the background. You're in the background season one, right, 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.840 but you're like, I want to people, I want to 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:47.960 play with you. I want to play with these people exactly. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.640 So you when when we're done with those first six episodes, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:56.120 you put together essentially a reel for yourself. I did, yeah, 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.800 and submitted it. Now. The thing is what what gave 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.480 me the impetus was on diversity day. I don't. Can 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.720 you remember the name of our first assistant director, the 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.240 woman she was with us that first season? Remember her? 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.200 I can't. So we're in diversity day. She comes up 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.040 to me and Phillis and we have the name tags 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.760 on her foreheads and stuff. And she says, okay, now 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.679 you guys just start ad living and Phillis goes, oh 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.000 way he's I said, that's okay, and she looks at 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.800 me and I just give her the eyes and she said, 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.840 all right, fine, your your funeral, you know. So we 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:29.880 started talking and stuff, and later on they come back 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.240 and we said, you were talking and and they asked 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:33.880 her and said, well, I just thought he was part 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.560 of the group. You know. That's because that's the way 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.080 I was reacting acting And they said they said no. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.120 So they paid me off the side, but they wouldn't 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.679 give anything after. I also did the voice for the 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.680 elevator the thing. Yes, I did the voice and that 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.160 went over really well. But the coal of the coalma 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.280 her yeah. And so they saw that I could that 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.080 I could do the funny stuff, you know. And so 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.800 I had two things happening already, kind of like doing 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.160 some little level, little fulk rooms as it were, or 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.600 to kind of give me segue me into this thing. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.880 And then you're right, I wrote, I wrote all this 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.920 stuff down. He Creed was psychic. I had a scene 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.240 where I said, Krazynski comes up behind me, and I'm 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.079 in acquisitions and I just flip a staper over my shoulder. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.760 I already know what he wants. I think it scared 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.640 the cast, scared the crew. I like the scaring people, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.360 he said, And this is the guy, you know. And 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.200 then of course they took it. They took it far 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.240 beyond I could ever I could ever think it would 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.280 how crazy he would be. But they still incorporated a 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.680 lot of the weird stuff that because I would tell 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.680 him about rock and roll stories, you know, and the 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:40.440 crazy stuff I've done. Yes, so you submit this tape 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.840 to give it to Greg gig Daniels and and I 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.280 think I gave it to maybe it was it was 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.480 greg Or Ken Ken Siborne. And before I know it, 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.240 they throw a six and half page scene on my 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.840 desk and say, Okay, here's your big chance with Steve Carrell. 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.920 Make it or break it the Halloween episode. Halloween episode. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.160 And then that was it. Man that I told the 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.920 story before. When they came in, I met had this 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.160 thing memorized backwards and boards, absolutely memorized, and I could 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.440 in the middle of and I could go, but I 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.560 kept that back in my head anywhere I wanted, I 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.360 could go in on that on that scene and know 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.200 it right away natural, you know, it goes Bran. They 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.160 come and say, okay, well we've changed the thing around. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.640 It's going to be in this order here, and we've 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.280 changed that some new stuff. And Steve goes, yeah, fine, 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:25.440 I'll just plant it over flop sweat. I go outside. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.440 I'm shaking, I'm absolutely shaken, and I said, okay, look, 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.000 I've come this far. I'm just gonna wing it. You know. 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.120 So a lot of that stuff that that that, that stuff, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.160 a lot of that stuff is improv too. You know. 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.520 It just worked, just work. I was I was fighting 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:44.000 for my wife. Wow. Ye that is amazing. That is amazing. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.200 And and from then on I am a guest star. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.040 But right away I heard talk. When I talked to Greg, 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.840 he said, once he heard me do which one pam 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.400 and someone making soup, he knew, he said, he knew 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.000 at that time that was it. And then that just 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.760 you know, it was off. And and lucky es ye, 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.040 lucky me to get to play with you guys. And 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.320 you said you were a fan of the British first 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.880 you'd watch I'd watched them all and I thought it 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.560 was the best. I remember the first time on that 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.200 old place where we were shooting their own in Las Area, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.000 Could City in studio and Greg said, look, we're going 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.520 to try to do this thing. We're gonna have a 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.040 laugh track, we're gonna have a lot of uncomfortable pauses, 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.120 you know. And I looked around everybody and everyone's nodding, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.960 you know, sage like like we all knew it was cool. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.320 We didn't know if it's gonna work in that yeah, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.960 and it did. It's interesting now that I'm thinking about it, 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:42.120 because you know, I don't think I was aware until today, 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:48.800 like how actively you were trying to get in I diversity. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.120 I knew, and I didn't know obviously. I couldn't know 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.480 the show was going to be that show. I just 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.960 knew that was my little voice was saying this feels right, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.280 this is what you want to be a part of. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.320 And I was very comfortable with everywhere. You know, we 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.280 all laughed, we enjoyed each other's company. I mean, I 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.080 certainly did I know that I'd get feedback from everybody. 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.240 So I said, you know what, I think I could 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.560 just be very very happy here. So I did everything 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.679 I could. I worked hard. I don't think I've ever 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.560 ever shot a thing like that and submitted it before, 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.760 you know, And if I had told anybody, they tried 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.240 to talk me out of it. You know, damn well right, 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.160 because you just don't do stuff like you don't do that. No, no, 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.480 but I wasn't gonna let anybody know my maca alien 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:56.159 clad when as you're watching the first episodes unfold and 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.240 certainly being a part of it, like you talked about 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.640 in Diversity Day, But when when did you feel like 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:08.199 we might have something cool? Was it right away? No? No, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.439 some people say that I didn't. I didn't have a 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.399 clue and I knew, well right for the first we 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.720 know we were gonna thought the possibly would be going 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.199 to be canceled. We thought we were going to be 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.440 canceled there and then he called us back. Um, I 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.159 guess I think it's one day driving in there to 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.439 work and it's seen Steve's four year old virgin right 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.360 there on Woodman right before before SADIKOI and I saw 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.919 the post journey went okay, wow, this is this is 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.959 kind of interesting. And uh, I think if we'd been 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.199 on a lot it would have been different. Been being 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.200 off and that little micro caused him that we were 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.440 we which was great to be by ourselves like that. 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.240 You know, we didn't we didn't really we were in 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.480 a bubble. We didn't really see it. I I think 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.359 it probably took two took me maybe to the end 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.359 of the second season or the third season it realized, 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.880 Wait a second, you know, this looks like this could 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.080 be something serious, you know, right, yeah, but you but 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.200 you said before, are like in terms of not necessarily 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.600 becoming a hit, but that we were doing something cool. Yeah, 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.520 we're doing good work. And I know I laughed because 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.560 I watched shows all the time, and most stuff doesn't 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.199 make me laugh. But I see and I knew what 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:15.440 these shows were, and I would still laugh. So I'd say, well, 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.800 if I'm laughing and I already know what's happening, there's 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:21.880 got to be pretty good. That's that's the criteria. Yeah, right, 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.280 what do you think that it did for the show? Right? 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:28.160 So the office comes out of you know, for lack 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.560 of a better phrase, like the Friends era. You know, 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:37.560 people were expected to look a certain way on television. Um, 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.560 what do you think that that did for us? That 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:44.400 that Alison Jones and Ken and Greg, that that they 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:49.280 cast people who didn't necessarily look like primetime TV stars. 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:51.320 I think that was the genius of it. I think 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:53.399 it was the beauty of it because people the average 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.760 joke and could could relate to it, you know, and 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.600 I mean the average Joe, not except deprecating way at all, 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.560 just your basic person on the street. They're not glamour pusses, 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:04.639 you know, not everybody was a glamor pus. You know, 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.800 these are average people. And as you know, a lot 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:12.000 of people thought it was a documentary and they really 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.640 didn't know it was a show for a while, which 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.439 which is that's brilliant if that happens. That It's really 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.159 not about the way the characters looked, but it was 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:26.280 the specific way that the characters were written, the specific 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:30.520 traits that they had, um that I think made people 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.960 respond to it. Right, I think everybody is trying to 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.680 find lightning in a bottle and they're they're trying to 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.480 to say, how did how did this happen? How did 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.480 this thing become? Or the zeitgeist? But well, it's the 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:48.400 synergy between us as as a cast, the writers, the directors, 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.440 the crew, and when you throw it all together, you're 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.160 you're trying to go Okay, where is this little spark 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.800 that makes it work? It's it's up in the it's 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:01.280 up in the air. You know. It's like treads now. 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.159 Blowing with these fingers is a profession. I don't know 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:08.200 what it is thing, but we'll know. But it's it's 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:09.959 it is. It was magic. It was a little bit 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:13.240 of magic. Yeah, And I I think the writing was 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.480 so brilliant. You know, I don't know about you, but 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.520 I get scripts all the time sent to me to 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:21.760 you know, to try to do that Creed character again, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:23.760 and I look at it. It's not not anywhere near 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.400 those writing. The writers we had come on. The writers 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.480 are so important, so we just had to be ourselves 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.720 and in character and then say I say the lines 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.760 without adding anything to it. And it worked. They saw 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:39.120 the big picture. Yeah, there was something about the construction 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:45.919 of the writing staff and the actors and the crew 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:53.159 and really everyone involved. That everybody cared. Yes, Yes, that 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:56.520 was it that we cared. Yeah that that there wasn't 0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:01.080 It wasn't about so often it's about self motion or 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.240 about you know, well I do this, then this will 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:06.879 get me to this other show, or you know, I 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:08.600 want people to see that I can do this or 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:12.679 that or whatever. But I felt like, really, at its core, 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:16.280 the people on this show, we're just trying to make 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:21.199 a really good show. Yes, I totally agree. When we 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.359 were there on the set in those days, it was 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:26.240