Speaker 1: I'm Creed Bratton and I played Creed Bratton on the Office.
Speaker 1: It's so amazing. It's so amazing. None of those have
Speaker 1: been funny before. Hello everyone, this is the Office Deep
Speaker 1: Dive and I am your host, Brian Baumgartner. Today I
Speaker 1: am pleased to present to you America's favorite weirdo, Creed Bratton.
Speaker 1: I know the Dozeks guy thinks that he is, but
Speaker 1: Creed truly maybe the most interesting man on earth. Seriously,
Speaker 1: if you don't know Creed story o, buckle up, folks.
Speaker 1: Creed was a professional musician before the Office, like a
Speaker 1: legit toward with the doors musician. And of course he
Speaker 1: is still a musician to this day, though as far
Speaker 1: as I know, he's no longer doing cocaine with Jim
Speaker 1: Morrison put more on that shortly. Needless to say, every
Speaker 1: time I get to see Creed is a is a
Speaker 1: total delight. In fact, the night before this interview you're
Speaker 1: about to hear, Creed invited myself, Angela Kinzie, Rain Wilson
Speaker 1: and others to participate in a benefit concert that he
Speaker 1: was giving for the wildfires that were ravaging Australia at
Speaker 1: the time. And let me tell you I'm sure I
Speaker 1: was terrible, but Creed was awesome. It was so amazing.
Speaker 1: I felt transported back in time as he is playing
Speaker 1: to an absolute packed house on the Sunset Strip at
Speaker 1: the Roxy. It was so fun. Anyway, Uh, sitting down
Speaker 1: with Creed for this conversation was strange and wonderful, and
Speaker 1: I hope that it will be for you as well,
Speaker 1: both strange and wonderful. And be sure to stay tuned
Speaker 1: at the end of this episode because I brought Creed
Speaker 1: back in for a second interview the first time that's happened,
Speaker 1: because I wanted to talk to him about his song
Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak and why we chose it to be
Speaker 1: our theme song, the song you're about to hear, So
Speaker 1: please welcome to your ears, Mr Creed Bratton, Bubble and Squeak.
Speaker 1: I love it, Bubble and Squeak and Bubble and Squeaker,
Speaker 1: cooking it every month, left over from the night before. Hey,
Speaker 1: what's happening? Hot stuff? My voice? That done? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You guys rocked, rocked, Thank you man, And it was
Speaker 1: a good guy that the people loved it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, here we go. Yeah, I do the
Speaker 1: guy on yours is your volume? Hi, thank you sir,
Speaker 1: Do do do do one two one two? Hello, Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: he's gonna start singing you guys. Uh, there we are. Hi. Hello, Brian, buddy,
Speaker 1: how are you good? I'm good. Yeah, that was very
Speaker 1: fun last night. It was great. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming. Yes, well you know anything for the animals
Speaker 1: or for you indeed, and for you right right back
Speaker 1: at you VI a V. Yeah. So it's been so
Speaker 1: amazingly fun just talking to people. Um, you had for
Speaker 1: four hours. You said I had Greg for four hour,
Speaker 1: but it has come to our attention that he talks
Speaker 1: really slow. So I think it's more like an hour
Speaker 1: and forty minutes. It's where there's a train passing through. Ye. Well,
Speaker 1: he's smarter than all of us, without a doubt, without
Speaker 1: a doubt. Okay, So I want to I want to
Speaker 1: take you back back. Okay back you started in music,
Speaker 1: you started where you want to go back back to you.
Speaker 1: I want to go back. I want to know. I
Speaker 1: want to hear a little bit wob that. I want
Speaker 1: all the uterous kind of back. Yeah, all back there,
Speaker 1: um okay um born in Los Angeles. Yes, at the
Speaker 1: age of two. If you really want to go back
Speaker 1: to this, William Charles Schneider, William Charles Schneider, just like
Speaker 1: it said on the thing when I had the passport thing,
Speaker 1: It's all true. All this stuff is true. All this
Speaker 1: stuff about killing people. I'm sorry to say, is there
Speaker 1: a statute of limitations on murder? I think that's the
Speaker 1: only thing maybe I shouldn't discuss. I don't discuss that. Probably. Wait, um,
Speaker 1: do you go by William Charles Schneider at all? My
Speaker 1: passport says it doesn't. Really, Yeah, my passport says it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you've never officially changed your name. Well, it's my
Speaker 1: My lawyers and everybody says, it's just a house. You
Speaker 1: have to go to court and do it. I've been
Speaker 1: trying to do it, but say just it's say, it's
Speaker 1: really a lot of hassle. So my passport says William Charles,
Speaker 1: I fly over to Europe under that you know name.
Speaker 1: What about your license here it's Creed Bratton. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then he goes, he goes back and forth. You know,
Speaker 1: I haven't running from the law for years, you know that. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that joke. It's not surprised, you know exactly. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: so was your was your first big year, I mean,
Speaker 1: was your first band the grassroots? No, my goodness, gracious, Okay,
Speaker 1: so my my I was born in l A. My
Speaker 1: father died in the war. Moved up to course school, California.
Speaker 1: By the age of third teen, I started playing guitar.
Speaker 1: I mean I had played trumpet for years, and I
Speaker 1: was first chaired all the way through grammar school and
Speaker 1: high school and stuff like that. And I read music.
Speaker 1: And then my grandfather, Charles, he played guitar in a
Speaker 1: country and Western man and my grandmother played drums called
Speaker 1: the Happy Timers. Then I had a band called the
Speaker 1: tour Case. We played seventeen. I was working professionally with
Speaker 1: this band, playing lead guitar, playing all songs from the
Speaker 1: fifties and stuff. Yeah, up in bass Lake, California. And
Speaker 1: then I had a band called the Leanders, which means
Speaker 1: Greek Lovers. I was in college and I and I
Speaker 1: always played to make money, you know. That's how I
Speaker 1: got got through school to play guitar. And that was
Speaker 1: a drama major at Sacramona State and I had another
Speaker 1: band there. But right at the end of college, I
Speaker 1: went off to Europe and then I got joined a
Speaker 1: group called the Young Californians, and that was the band.
Speaker 1: I traveled around for almost two and a half years
Speaker 1: in Europe, North Africa, the Red Curtain countries, Israel. We
Speaker 1: worked on a casting shout a movie there with Frank Sinatra. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. I I still remember Frank Sinatra coming to me.
Speaker 1: I was just like a early twenties kids, you know,
Speaker 1: working on the set and I had my hand on
Speaker 1: this board which I didn't know it was going to
Speaker 1: be exploded with with the squibs and stuff. He comes
Speaker 1: up and said, hey kid, and he's spoke in a
Speaker 1: cigarette and he said, kid, you can blow your hand up,
Speaker 1: put your hand on the thing. I said what. He
Speaker 1: just moved me away. It was my only Frank Sinatra movement. Movement,
Speaker 1: that's true. He saved your life, He saved my hand.
Speaker 1: That's what this is? What right, Frank Sinatra saved Yes,
Speaker 1: you're you're right, you're you're you're good at this promo thing.
Speaker 1: So then, uh, Then I got back to Europe while later,
Speaker 1: and I had a band called the Umte Floor not
Speaker 1: to be confused with the Austin Man the thirteenth Floor Elevator,
Speaker 1: which was a big band. It would have confused me,
Speaker 1: well confused to most people. And we were playing at
Speaker 1: the London Fog right next to the Whiskey Go Go,
Speaker 1: and we've been playing over a year and we had
Speaker 1: a chance to become the Grassroots. First song, Live for
Speaker 1: Today goes right up the charts and they were off.
Speaker 1: That was your first song. That was the first song
Speaker 1: was Live for Today, and I was I played guitar
Speaker 1: worn that and they played guitar on that. My friend
Speaker 1: Bobby Ray played bass, and the Great Session Drumber hal
Speaker 1: Blaine played drums on it. Wow. Yeah, the Wrecking Crew
Speaker 1: and I used to play with the Wrecking to a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, they'd be hard, they had hope kind of things.
Speaker 1: They bring in different people and we play with them.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons I left the band is
Speaker 1: because we came back from tour about the third album
Speaker 1: and they'd cut some tracks without me, you know, and
Speaker 1: I went and they said, well, this is the way
Speaker 1: they do it. I said, well, no, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't like this at all because I play so I
Speaker 1: didn't like. Yeah, that was the deal. Interesting and so
Speaker 1: you were with the Grassroots for how long? Four albums
Speaker 1: from sixty seven sixty sixty six to seventy. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you you were the biggest star on the set
Speaker 1: of the Office. Before the Office, you were kind of
Speaker 1: the only least well, I would say that about the
Speaker 1: time arrived there with Steve Carrill on the four year
Speaker 1: Old Virgin. He was it starts after we started. I
Speaker 1: think you were the biggest star. Well, I I like
Speaker 1: you like the thing about you know me? Yes, I
Speaker 1: like the way you put you putting this Are you
Speaker 1: did you well? No, but it's true. I mean it
Speaker 1: might be technically true as far as pop culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had. I mean you had lived a rock star
Speaker 1: life for yeah years, yeah, for years likely to be alive.
Speaker 1: My friend, I remember in a very Creed Broughton way,
Speaker 1: meaning you and your character on the show John Krasinski
Speaker 1: and I talked about this all the time, you walking
Speaker 1: in and beginning to tell a story and truly going
Speaker 1: that story is so outlandish it can't possibly be true.
Speaker 1: But maybe it is. And I think you did both.
Speaker 1: I think you told stories that I might have embellished
Speaker 1: a movement. Brian, do you know? But I know I
Speaker 1: don't have to be much you don't. But my son
Speaker 1: parted with Jim Morrison of course. Yeah. The Doors by
Speaker 1: John Densmore, the drummer was my best man at my wedding.
Speaker 1: I hung out with that band all the time we
Speaker 1: toured together. Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's all real. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's all real. Yeah, it's all real. So you
Speaker 1: become an actor and you um studied with the method.
Speaker 1: Charles Conrad. I did a bunch of stuff before the Office.
Speaker 1: People just think that that was my first thing. But
Speaker 1: if you look at IMDb, I've done a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff twincies and eight is Enough, and a bunch of
Speaker 1: TV movies and things. You know. John Crosby and there Will,
Speaker 1: the famous agent, saw me at the Odyssey Theater. I've
Speaker 1: done a play with bow Bridges, you know, and I
Speaker 1: had my hair, you know, it's kind of kind of attractive,
Speaker 1: you know, and very very confident. So he signed up
Speaker 1: and I didn't have to go out anything. He just said,
Speaker 1: you got a job over here. Back in those days,
Speaker 1: they we just said you got a job over here.
Speaker 1: And I was just working for a couple of years
Speaker 1: wow with him. And then immediately prior to the Office,
Speaker 1: you were working with Ken Kappas and I met Ken
Speaker 1: on Bernie Matt Show. He came on the show and
Speaker 1: he was a big Grassroot fans. So he sent out
Speaker 1: to Amibre Records for me to sign some albums for him,
Speaker 1: and I found he was like encyclopedia of pop knowledge.
Speaker 1: Ken knows all that stuff he does, he does and
Speaker 1: I healed it off. He's such a sweetheart. We know
Speaker 1: we love Kim. So I heard from Joe that he
Speaker 1: was directing uh the Office in American Workplace, and I went,
Speaker 1: I loved the Ricky Gervais things. So I did something
Speaker 1: I've never ever done. Brian. I called. He gave me
Speaker 1: his number. I called the director up and he was
Speaker 1: he wasn't that starting? Oh? I said, look, I just
Speaker 1: heard you were doing the show. I loved the Ricky
Speaker 1: Gervais show so much. I said, is there any way
Speaker 1: I could come and read for something over there? And
Speaker 1: he went, you know what? He said, where can let
Speaker 1: me talk to Greg? He calls me back? He said,
Speaker 1: I told him we were a very interesting guy, and
Speaker 1: he said I think I think he said. He said, well,
Speaker 1: if he's that interesting, let's see if we can work
Speaker 1: him into the mix. His words were work him in
Speaker 1: the mixer. There. I mean, you know, in the background
Speaker 1: at the desk the first season, and I read right away.
Speaker 1: I felt very comfortable with everybody, you know. So when
Speaker 1: I saw what I had to do, I wrote a scene.
Speaker 1: I wrote a bunch of talking heads and shot about
Speaker 1: hours where the stuff ad lebed a bunch of stuff,
Speaker 1: wrote all this crazy stuff and cut it down to
Speaker 1: about five or seven seven minutes or so, gave it
Speaker 1: to Greg. You did this yourself, Yeah, yeah, I did
Speaker 1: it all myself, did all myself. Okay, no, wait, all right, wait,
Speaker 1: christ hold on. So you're in your in the back,
Speaker 1: in the background. You're in the background season one, right,
Speaker 1: but you're like, I want to people, I want to
Speaker 1: play with you. I want to play with these people exactly.
Speaker 1: So you when when we're done with those first six episodes,
Speaker 1: you put together essentially a reel for yourself. I did, yeah,
Speaker 1: and submitted it. Now. The thing is what what gave
Speaker 1: me the impetus was on diversity day. I don't. Can
Speaker 1: you remember the name of our first assistant director, the
Speaker 1: woman she was with us that first season? Remember her?
Speaker 1: I can't. So we're in diversity day. She comes up
Speaker 1: to me and Phillis and we have the name tags
Speaker 1: on her foreheads and stuff. And she says, okay, now
Speaker 1: you guys just start ad living and Phillis goes, oh
Speaker 1: way he's I said, that's okay, and she looks at
Speaker 1: me and I just give her the eyes and she said,
Speaker 1: all right, fine, your your funeral, you know. So we
Speaker 1: started talking and stuff, and later on they come back
Speaker 1: and we said, you were talking and and they asked
Speaker 1: her and said, well, I just thought he was part
Speaker 1: of the group. You know. That's because that's the way
Speaker 1: I was reacting acting And they said they said no.
Speaker 1: So they paid me off the side, but they wouldn't
Speaker 1: give anything after. I also did the voice for the
Speaker 1: elevator the thing. Yes, I did the voice and that
Speaker 1: went over really well. But the coal of the coalma
Speaker 1: her yeah. And so they saw that I could that
Speaker 1: I could do the funny stuff, you know. And so
Speaker 1: I had two things happening already, kind of like doing
Speaker 1: some little level, little fulk rooms as it were, or
Speaker 1: to kind of give me segue me into this thing.
Speaker 1: And then you're right, I wrote, I wrote all this
Speaker 1: stuff down. He Creed was psychic. I had a scene
Speaker 1: where I said, Krazynski comes up behind me, and I'm
Speaker 1: in acquisitions and I just flip a staper over my shoulder.
Speaker 1: I already know what he wants. I think it scared
Speaker 1: the cast, scared the crew. I like the scaring people,
Speaker 1: he said, And this is the guy, you know. And
Speaker 1: then of course they took it. They took it far
Speaker 1: beyond I could ever I could ever think it would
Speaker 1: how crazy he would be. But they still incorporated a
Speaker 1: lot of the weird stuff that because I would tell
Speaker 1: him about rock and roll stories, you know, and the
Speaker 1: crazy stuff I've done. Yes, so you submit this tape
Speaker 1: to give it to Greg gig Daniels and and I
Speaker 1: think I gave it to maybe it was it was
Speaker 1: greg Or Ken Ken Siborne. And before I know it,
Speaker 1: they throw a six and half page scene on my
Speaker 1: desk and say, Okay, here's your big chance with Steve Carrell.
Speaker 1: Make it or break it the Halloween episode. Halloween episode.
Speaker 1: And then that was it. Man that I told the
Speaker 1: story before. When they came in, I met had this
Speaker 1: thing memorized backwards and boards, absolutely memorized, and I could
Speaker 1: in the middle of and I could go, but I
Speaker 1: kept that back in my head anywhere I wanted, I
Speaker 1: could go in on that on that scene and know
Speaker 1: it right away natural, you know, it goes Bran. They
Speaker 1: come and say, okay, well we've changed the thing around.
Speaker 1: It's going to be in this order here, and we've
Speaker 1: changed that some new stuff. And Steve goes, yeah, fine,
Speaker 1: I'll just plant it over flop sweat. I go outside.
Speaker 1: I'm shaking, I'm absolutely shaken, and I said, okay, look,
Speaker 1: I've come this far. I'm just gonna wing it. You know.
Speaker 1: So a lot of that stuff that that that, that stuff,
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff is improv too. You know.
Speaker 1: It just worked, just work. I was I was fighting
Speaker 1: for my wife. Wow. Ye that is amazing. That is amazing.
Speaker 1: And and from then on I am a guest star.
Speaker 1: But right away I heard talk. When I talked to Greg,
Speaker 1: he said, once he heard me do which one pam
Speaker 1: and someone making soup, he knew, he said, he knew
Speaker 1: at that time that was it. And then that just
Speaker 1: you know, it was off. And and lucky es ye,
Speaker 1: lucky me to get to play with you guys. And
Speaker 1: you said you were a fan of the British first
Speaker 1: you'd watch I'd watched them all and I thought it
Speaker 1: was the best. I remember the first time on that
Speaker 1: old place where we were shooting their own in Las Area,
Speaker 1: Could City in studio and Greg said, look, we're going
Speaker 1: to try to do this thing. We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: laugh track, we're gonna have a lot of uncomfortable pauses,
Speaker 1: you know. And I looked around everybody and everyone's nodding,
Speaker 1: you know, sage like like we all knew it was cool.
Speaker 1: We didn't know if it's gonna work in that yeah,
Speaker 1: and it did. It's interesting now that I'm thinking about it,
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't think I was aware until today,
Speaker 1: like how actively you were trying to get in I diversity.
Speaker 1: I knew, and I didn't know obviously. I couldn't know
Speaker 1: the show was going to be that show. I just
Speaker 1: knew that was my little voice was saying this feels right,
Speaker 1: this is what you want to be a part of.
Speaker 1: And I was very comfortable with everywhere. You know, we
Speaker 1: all laughed, we enjoyed each other's company. I mean, I
Speaker 1: certainly did I know that I'd get feedback from everybody.
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, I think I could
Speaker 1: just be very very happy here. So I did everything
Speaker 1: I could. I worked hard. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: ever shot a thing like that and submitted it before,
Speaker 1: you know, And if I had told anybody, they tried
Speaker 1: to talk me out of it. You know, damn well right,
Speaker 1: because you just don't do stuff like you don't do that. No, no,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna let anybody know my maca alien
Speaker 1: clad when as you're watching the first episodes unfold and
Speaker 1: certainly being a part of it, like you talked about
Speaker 1: in Diversity Day, But when when did you feel like
Speaker 1: we might have something cool? Was it right away? No? No,
Speaker 1: some people say that I didn't. I didn't have a
Speaker 1: clue and I knew, well right for the first we
Speaker 1: know we were gonna thought the possibly would be going
Speaker 1: to be canceled. We thought we were going to be
Speaker 1: canceled there and then he called us back. Um, I
Speaker 1: guess I think it's one day driving in there to
Speaker 1: work and it's seen Steve's four year old virgin right
Speaker 1: there on Woodman right before before SADIKOI and I saw
Speaker 1: the post journey went okay, wow, this is this is
Speaker 1: kind of interesting. And uh, I think if we'd been
Speaker 1: on a lot it would have been different. Been being
Speaker 1: off and that little micro caused him that we were
Speaker 1: we which was great to be by ourselves like that.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't we didn't really we were in
Speaker 1: a bubble. We didn't really see it. I I think
Speaker 1: it probably took two took me maybe to the end
Speaker 1: of the second season or the third season it realized,
Speaker 1: Wait a second, you know, this looks like this could
Speaker 1: be something serious, you know, right, yeah, but you but
Speaker 1: you said before, are like in terms of not necessarily
Speaker 1: becoming a hit, but that we were doing something cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're doing good work. And I know I laughed because
Speaker 1: I watched shows all the time, and most stuff doesn't
Speaker 1: make me laugh. But I see and I knew what
Speaker 1: these shows were, and I would still laugh. So I'd say, well,
Speaker 1: if I'm laughing and I already know what's happening, there's
Speaker 1: got to be pretty good. That's that's the criteria. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: what do you think that it did for the show? Right?
Speaker 1: So the office comes out of you know, for lack
Speaker 1: of a better phrase, like the Friends era. You know,
Speaker 1: people were expected to look a certain way on television. Um,
Speaker 1: what do you think that that did for us? That
Speaker 1: that Alison Jones and Ken and Greg, that that they
Speaker 1: cast people who didn't necessarily look like primetime TV stars.
Speaker 1: I think that was the genius of it. I think
Speaker 1: it was the beauty of it because people the average
Speaker 1: joke and could could relate to it, you know, and
Speaker 1: I mean the average Joe, not except deprecating way at all,
Speaker 1: just your basic person on the street. They're not glamour pusses,
Speaker 1: you know, not everybody was a glamor pus. You know,
Speaker 1: these are average people. And as you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people thought it was a documentary and they really
Speaker 1: didn't know it was a show for a while, which
Speaker 1: which is that's brilliant if that happens. That It's really
Speaker 1: not about the way the characters looked, but it was
Speaker 1: the specific way that the characters were written, the specific
Speaker 1: traits that they had, um that I think made people
Speaker 1: respond to it. Right, I think everybody is trying to
Speaker 1: find lightning in a bottle and they're they're trying to
Speaker 1: to say, how did how did this happen? How did
Speaker 1: this thing become? Or the zeitgeist? But well, it's the
Speaker 1: synergy between us as as a cast, the writers, the directors,
Speaker 1: the crew, and when you throw it all together, you're
Speaker 1: you're trying to go Okay, where is this little spark
Speaker 1: that makes it work? It's it's up in the it's
Speaker 1: up in the air. You know. It's like treads now.
Speaker 1: Blowing with these fingers is a profession. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is thing, but we'll know. But it's it's
Speaker 1: it is. It was magic. It was a little bit
Speaker 1: of magic. Yeah, And I I think the writing was
Speaker 1: so brilliant. You know, I don't know about you, but
Speaker 1: I get scripts all the time sent to me to
Speaker 1: you know, to try to do that Creed character again,
Speaker 1: and I look at it. It's not not anywhere near
Speaker 1: those writing. The writers we had come on. The writers
Speaker 1: are so important, so we just had to be ourselves
Speaker 1: and in character and then say I say the lines
Speaker 1: without adding anything to it. And it worked. They saw
Speaker 1: the big picture. Yeah, there was something about the construction
Speaker 1: of the writing staff and the actors and the crew
Speaker 1: and really everyone involved. That everybody cared. Yes, Yes, that
Speaker 1: was it that we cared. Yeah that that there wasn't
Speaker 1: It wasn't about so often it's about self motion or
Speaker 1: about you know, well I do this, then this will
Speaker 1: get me to this other show, or you know, I
Speaker 1: want people to see that I can do this or
Speaker 1: that or whatever. But I felt like, really, at its core,
Speaker 1: the people on this show, we're just trying to make
Speaker 1: a really good show. Yes, I totally agree. When we
Speaker 1: were there on the set in those days, it was
Speaker 1: all about just that was the office, and everybody there
Speaker 1: was part of the office, the crew and the cast
Speaker 1: and the writers. And I think we've all mentioned before
Speaker 1: having the writers in the in the cast and having
Speaker 1: them take their ear on the street and then going
Speaker 1: back to the writer's room, and then that's that parlayed
Speaker 1: into that brilliance too. Yeah. Well you talked before about
Speaker 1: you telling stories. Yes, and they hear and they come
Speaker 1: around and pick my brains sometimes, you know. Um, I
Speaker 1: think I told the story about Live for Today with
Speaker 1: the grass Foot hits. There was one of the lines
Speaker 1: in Live for Today was baby, I need to feel
Speaker 1: you inside of me. I need to feel you deep
Speaker 1: inside of me. Billboard magazine came out with an article
Speaker 1: and said, regarding the band the Grassroots and the hit
Speaker 1: song Lived for the Day, we assumed that The Grassroots
Speaker 1: are a heterosexual band, and we went what we were
Speaker 1: freaking out because we're also from you know, uh, Warren
Speaker 1: and I had been the rhythmic tire, and I had
Speaker 1: been to Europe and college. The other two had never
Speaker 1: been out of California, I don't think. So they were
Speaker 1: freaking down. I'm saying, chill, chill, it's okay, relax, and
Speaker 1: I said, but I had this seriously after that article.
Speaker 1: For a year, I had this reoccurring dream and I'd
Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night and all
Speaker 1: my ex girlfriends were coming at me in a circle, angry,
Speaker 1: naked with strap ons, and I'd wake up in a
Speaker 1: cold sweat, a cold sweat and a little titillated too,
Speaker 1: I gotta say. But but I told that story to
Speaker 1: the thing, and then of course they did the the
Speaker 1: the gay witch Hut story. This is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that is true. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much of that. You don't know either.
Speaker 1: The one I always know it is that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I remember, I remember just I mean, I think
Speaker 1: this is when you used a lot. But the one
Speaker 1: that I always tell was us in the conference room
Speaker 1: one day. This is really early on, and um, I
Speaker 1: don't even know if we can use this or not,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna at least tell you now, I remember
Speaker 1: you something happened and you go, yeah, yeah, that reminds
Speaker 1: me snorting cocaine off of Booker's ass at the Playboy
Speaker 1: Mansion with Jim Morrison. It's looking around. What did he
Speaker 1: just say so many words together? It sounds wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we'll never know. Now, we'll never know that is true,
Speaker 1: certainly don't know anymore in adult as I am. So
Speaker 1: what combination is the character Creed Bratton? How much of
Speaker 1: the character of Creed Broton is you? Well, you've known
Speaker 1: me long enough to know that that I am not. Actually,
Speaker 1: it used and we used to play him up to
Speaker 1: I wrote him as because I did write the character
Speaker 1: at the beginning, so he was um. Think of myself
Speaker 1: as a as a crack tuning fork. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a it's filibrating and it's all marated to break and
Speaker 1: it's it's and I wrote the physical comedy is from
Speaker 1: Jacques Tati and the way he physically walks, the facial
Speaker 1: expressions are Jack, Benny, George Gobel, Bob new Heart, and
Speaker 1: it's it's in a juxtaposition of all those characters that
Speaker 1: I loved. And that's that's how my comedy came around
Speaker 1: and then I then I so I tried to write
Speaker 1: a character. Uh. My original premise was that Creed, a
Speaker 1: rock star, had an over overdose. He passed out on
Speaker 1: a Greyhound bus, ended up in a dumpster in Scratton,
Speaker 1: and Ed truck brought him in and gave him a
Speaker 1: job as in the stores, a salesman in the in
Speaker 1: the dunder Mifflin, where he was horrible at and then
Speaker 1: they were frightened of him and stuck him over. That
Speaker 1: was the premise basically, And so he was just Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's an extension obviously extension of this rock and roll guy.
Speaker 1: But I mean I would be worn out if I
Speaker 1: had to be him all the time because because he's
Speaker 1: he's operating out that higher he's what to name, get
Speaker 1: that kind of he he's hyped up. You know, was
Speaker 1: there something physically you did in terms of getting that character?
Speaker 1: Like what what was? It was almost like getting myself
Speaker 1: a hiccup, a physical hiccup. It's just almost a nervous
Speaker 1: twitch to be him. Yeah, And even and I had
Speaker 1: and they thought he was joking sometimes said wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not ready. I'm not ready. Well, what
Speaker 1: do you mean, you're I'm not. I'm I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a rock guy. I'm a musician, you know, I'm right
Speaker 1: right these soulful songs, and that's that's who i am.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm more much more serious and thoughtful than
Speaker 1: that character. But when I'm in the behind the desk,
Speaker 1: I'm the chicanery involved. There's escaping from the law. There's
Speaker 1: there's always been one step somebody in my eyes and
Speaker 1: just thinking that they're gonna find me out. That was
Speaker 1: always my backstory. Are they going to find me out?
Speaker 1: So that's when every time we look at anybody, the
Speaker 1: thing in the back of my mind was going to
Speaker 1: see that I'm just faking it here and I'm cheating
Speaker 1: them and stealing from them. We were there so much
Speaker 1: that after a while just it becomes ingrained in your
Speaker 1: behavior and you keep it sometimes in between when saying,
Speaker 1: when Creed is leaving the office, oh, sorry, that's been
Speaker 1: a murdic im in it here. Oh I'm Steve. I
Speaker 1: got well, I'll be right back, and you see my body,
Speaker 1: my body head out. That's that's very Jacques Tati. You know,
Speaker 1: when I was in Europe, I watched a lot of
Speaker 1: this that his comedy and I just loved his physical movement,
Speaker 1: you know, So I would emulate emulate this and that's
Speaker 1: very cool. Yeah, yeah, because it's funny. It's it's half
Speaker 1: Charlie Chaplin and half Jacques Tati. Yeah. What was your
Speaker 1: job in the office? Uh? Quality? Ashlan's quality, quality, quality assurance,
Speaker 1: which he never did. He never did. Was there any
Speaker 1: the one time he didn't go he gave He came
Speaker 1: in one time in a year and missed up on something.
Speaker 1: That's when the cart characters rabbing sex on the Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then and he frames Debbie Brown. He finds she's
Speaker 1: the only one not at work that day, and so
Speaker 1: he blames on her. Then he collects money at the
Speaker 1: end and pockets and himself. He's such a scump, scummy guy.
Speaker 1: What what exactly is the job of quality? Oh? I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's the thing. I didn't want to be
Speaker 1: found out because they didn't do any work. Push papers,
Speaker 1: literally pushed papers round on the desk. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure Kevin did either. He in betted the Clevin he
Speaker 1: did invent then did that. So that's you have that
Speaker 1: to live with. Yes, Um, so you talked about season two,
Speaker 1: you know, the end of season two. Um, we win
Speaker 1: the Emmy. Casino Night, last one we had in the
Speaker 1: Casino Night, such a fun episode we had gotten, you
Speaker 1: know shortly before that, after like getting six episodes and
Speaker 1: two and four and one and three and in season two,
Speaker 1: you know, we get a full season pick up first
Speaker 1: season three and we win the Emmy after season two.
Speaker 1: What do you remember about those I've never I always
Speaker 1: I'm I'm almost a mystoic philosophy Gu'm ryan, and I
Speaker 1: just I live in the moment. I know predict that
Speaker 1: anything's gonna happen. I just do the work as a
Speaker 1: day comes, and so I didn't look too far ahead.
Speaker 1: I just, you know, I just tried to be there
Speaker 1: and be there now. As they say when we go
Speaker 1: to the red carpet events in the Limos. That was
Speaker 1: the first time that I felt a little like and
Speaker 1: it felt like back in the grassroot days kind of
Speaker 1: something you and going to a big show or something
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, I kind of remember this this energy,
Speaker 1: it's a rush. It's kind of great. Yeah. When did
Speaker 1: you start getting recognized as being creed brought in from
Speaker 1: the office. I think about the third season I was
Speaker 1: in Trader Joe's and walking along and a woman pulled
Speaker 1: her child away from me and I and I was alarmed,
Speaker 1: but I was kind of pleased that my character did
Speaker 1: that to someone, you know. And then she looked apologetic
Speaker 1: and I did say to her, said, I'm just an actress, said,
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not. I did, I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1: And she's like, she just sugar and said she just
Speaker 1: pulled ahead child's eyes moved away, and I took it
Speaker 1: as a compliment. I remember my U. I did this
Speaker 1: movie years ago, Peter mcdani's film called Mask with Eric
Speaker 1: Stoltz and Samuel and Share. I was the ticket taker
Speaker 1: in that in that movie, and my daughter was studying
Speaker 1: at the Performing Academy in Manhattan and she went with
Speaker 1: her friends to see the movie and they she didn't
Speaker 1: tell them that I was in it. And when I
Speaker 1: did my scene with Samuel, you know, yeah, whatever the
Speaker 1: line was, you know, like that day, Oh, what an asshole.
Speaker 1: And she said, Dad, I was so proud of you,
Speaker 1: and I felt really good that they thought it was
Speaker 1: an asshole. Yes, yes, that's awesome, so great, that's so awesome.
Speaker 1: You talked about the magic and it is unexplainable. It is,
Speaker 1: why do you think that the show connects so well
Speaker 1: with young people? You know, like it's a show about
Speaker 1: I actually looked this up. I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: side story last night because we did the thing for
Speaker 1: your birthday that but then, by the way, thank you
Speaker 1: guys so much. Just blew my mind. I didn't see
Speaker 1: it coming. Yeah I didn't. By the way, everyone it's tomorrow,
Speaker 1: it's his birthday, because I looked it up because I
Speaker 1: was like, is it actually today? And nobody knew, so
Speaker 1: I looked it up. And this is a very weird
Speaker 1: story that I'm saying this because I'm I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: you're the oldest. But I was looking at it and going,
Speaker 1: other than John and Jenna and b J, I'm the
Speaker 1: youngest likely yeah, like all those guys and so but
Speaker 1: even I, you know, when the show started, I was
Speaker 1: thirty one. Oh my god, I thought you were older
Speaker 1: in there. Yea, that's what you're such. You're a kid there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well anymore a long time. Um. But my point is
Speaker 1: was that, you know, we were still like, you know,
Speaker 1: early middle age to upper middle aged group of people
Speaker 1: who worked in an office. And I always thought, oh, well, this.
Speaker 1: You know, if everyone works in an office or everybody
Speaker 1: goes to work, like thinking, those are the people that
Speaker 1: it would really appeal to, not and not that it doesn't,
Speaker 1: but it has such a young audience base. Why do
Speaker 1: you think that, man, Brian? I I used to think
Speaker 1: it was because of the sweetness of the show, and
Speaker 1: and there was a heart. That the show has a
Speaker 1: heart without a doubt, it's undeniable. And how how does
Speaker 1: that happen? I don't know. But I also think now
Speaker 1: that in retrospect um there's so much anguish. There's only
Speaker 1: so much vampires blowing up and and threats of all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and the angst, the existential angst of whatever
Speaker 1: we're experiencing. Own to my god, there's a cartoon there
Speaker 1: to Day where guys looking at his dog, he says,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you don't have to know what's going
Speaker 1: on right now. It's kind of that thing. Our show
Speaker 1: didn't really torture people with the immediency of our demise
Speaker 1: as and so it relaxed them. It relaxes people. I
Speaker 1: think it's one of those shows that relaxes people, and
Speaker 1: they go to it to make themselves feel happy. And
Speaker 1: I think we also came in at a time where
Speaker 1: it doesn't look that dated for an office. You know,
Speaker 1: there were cell phones, there were computers. You know, if
Speaker 1: you go back a little board, you don't see that stuff,
Speaker 1: so kind of dates. We just came in at that
Speaker 1: sweet spot, I think too. And it's and it's it's
Speaker 1: definitely funny and people can relate to it, not even
Speaker 1: if you're an office or not. The interpersonal relationship of
Speaker 1: all these people and who do it so well? You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's I have to give credit because I'm not
Speaker 1: the smart But I was speaking to um, this woman
Speaker 1: who's a television critic, and she was talking about some
Speaker 1: of the you know, political, economic things that are going
Speaker 1: on in our world. And you know, it was a
Speaker 1: show about a small paper company in Scranton, Pennsylvania. But
Speaker 1: what what she was talking to me about is those
Speaker 1: businesses now they don't exist now, and there's a nostalgia
Speaker 1: in a way, like like who would have thought that
Speaker 1: would actually be a good job right now? If you're
Speaker 1: in that industry, you work at Staples or Office Max
Speaker 1: or Target or Walmart, you know, like you're working for
Speaker 1: Superstore like that television show. Now, like if that's the
Speaker 1: progression from the office, it's a big box store humanity
Speaker 1: or heart. I think that's a very interesting idea. I agree.
Speaker 1: And if you wanted to work with people and make relationship,
Speaker 1: you'd want to be at dunder Mifflin, not an impersonal staples,
Speaker 1: you know, because you get lost and you might might happen,
Speaker 1: and people want to kind of where we need that
Speaker 1: stuff in in our lives. We're losing a lot of it, unfortunately. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like the concept of the show the conceit, right, is like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's a boring here's a boring office job in a
Speaker 1: paper company, right, But if you look at the alternative,
Speaker 1: it's slinging paper. It target like that's not no, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: this is much better. Yeah, we're a little we're a
Speaker 1: little biased too though. Well yeah, I know I certainly.
Speaker 1: Um when Greg left to go start Parks and Rack,
Speaker 1: Mike and Greg laugh and John Slotta and Paul were there,
Speaker 1: did you notice any any change really because Greg was
Speaker 1: still around. Yeah, I know, he's around for a while.
Speaker 1: I think I think it. It took me a while
Speaker 1: to to feel that there was more of a I
Speaker 1: don't know, a Hodgepodgy Hodgepodgy feeling after he left for
Speaker 1: a while. I don't know, I couldn't I couldn't even
Speaker 1: actually put my finger on if there was a cohesive
Speaker 1: thread that there was missing. But I think there was
Speaker 1: to some degree. And maybe it's just my hindsight that
Speaker 1: I know that now so that I can, you know,
Speaker 1: superimposed those feelings over it. But I kind of felt,
Speaker 1: I did feel for sure when he came back, that
Speaker 1: the ship was righted to it at some degree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to say that. But I'm a big, great
Speaker 1: fan obviously, you know, we all are, but you know, well,
Speaker 1: because he just seemed to always support he was he
Speaker 1: had my back, you know, and he'd he allowed me
Speaker 1: to play music, allowed me to play music in the show,
Speaker 1: which is a huge thing, you know, and he gave me.
Speaker 1: Remember one time, I was did some ad lib stuff
Speaker 1: and I thought maybe I was right in the beginning,
Speaker 1: and I thought maybe I was usurpre in my position somewhat.
Speaker 1: I came to him and said, do you think I
Speaker 1: should have thrown that thing? And they said, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to center yourself every creek. Just
Speaker 1: just say it out there, patted me on the back,
Speaker 1: and I went, Okay, this is he gave me the
Speaker 1: carte blanche to continue on being my insane self sweetness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's so damned smart, it's ridiculous. Yeah. Um, Steve
Speaker 1: basically becomes a giant movie star. Yes, in season two,
Speaker 1: talk to me a little bit about either any recollections,
Speaker 1: not even recollections. How was he like to work with
Speaker 1: you know, you started that first scene in Halloween. It
Speaker 1: was six and a half pages with him, right. Well,
Speaker 1: he was very giving and gracious, you know, and uh,
Speaker 1: he allowed me the space to to jump up and
Speaker 1: just do do stuff, you know, and uh and and
Speaker 1: we just kept going, which a professional just kept going.
Speaker 1: It was a long day. We were in that office
Speaker 1: for a long time. But I had so much respect
Speaker 1: for him. And later on, I think it was season two,
Speaker 1: he was doing some scenes and oh it was at
Speaker 1: the end of is that wonderful, wonderful scene where the
Speaker 1: children come up at the ind of Halloween and you
Speaker 1: see what heart this guy has, you know, and remember
Speaker 1: some other scene you could see it. And I came
Speaker 1: up to him one day and I told him, I said,
Speaker 1: you are really really good dramatic actor, Steve. And I
Speaker 1: think it was a little embarrassed and take h because
Speaker 1: he's shy in a way, you know he is, And
Speaker 1: I said, no, it really needs to I think I
Speaker 1: embarrassed him just a little bit because I had such
Speaker 1: a great respect for the guy. And also, you know,
Speaker 1: as you know, how hard it is not to laugh
Speaker 1: when he's doing when comes in his prison mic or
Speaker 1: and in the big overweight suit. You know, I think
Speaker 1: it's so hard to lapse my cloth, so so brilliant,
Speaker 1: you know, just great to watch it. I learned a
Speaker 1: lot from watching him too. I learned a lot from
Speaker 1: everybody that came on just you know, uh Spader. When
Speaker 1: I watch Spader work, I was picking his nuances and
Speaker 1: stuff like crazy. I pay very close attention to that stuff.
Speaker 1: People that I respect and watch didn't file it away
Speaker 1: for characters for later. Yeah, when did you find out
Speaker 1: that he was leaving? I basically that scene in there
Speaker 1: when I say see you tomorrow, boss, I thought he
Speaker 1: was still staying. No. No, we all knew, and uh,
Speaker 1: that was hard. That was hard. I wasn't sure, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I probably voted it with a few people.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, when I think it might be
Speaker 1: time to just stop. You know, I really felt that.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, without him, how can this? How
Speaker 1: can it possibly go on? How can I go on?
Speaker 1: And I would have understood, you know, really, I'm glad
Speaker 1: obviously we got to go on, and obviously the finale
Speaker 1: redeemed us in a way. I believe that finale just
Speaker 1: kind of like pull the thing together. There were some
Speaker 1: great moments too, but I don't think they ever came
Speaker 1: up to his stuff with Steve. I just don't think so,
Speaker 1: do you. I am tremendously proud, quite frankly, of the
Speaker 1: entire ninth season. I feel like it's a little underappreciated
Speaker 1: in a way. I think that we were continuing to
Speaker 1: try to find the right formula in terms of who
Speaker 1: was the boss, but I think the show just started
Speaker 1: functioning differently. I feel like not a whole lot of
Speaker 1: shows gets to end on their own terms and and
Speaker 1: tell the end of a story that they wanted to tell.
Speaker 1: And the idea of you know, Greg wanting to finish
Speaker 1: the story in that way, I felt like he was
Speaker 1: able to do it and and and I thought did
Speaker 1: it very effective? Well? That was like I said, that
Speaker 1: finale was so But did you feel at the time
Speaker 1: that when when Steve left, that you would have been
Speaker 1: happy saying, okay, let's just call it no no, now
Speaker 1: you want to to continue on. Personally, I think the
Speaker 1: show could still be on right now. It would have
Speaker 1: turned into like E R and people would have laughed,
Speaker 1: and new people coming in. My character would be dead,
Speaker 1: you know, although I don't think Greg would ever let
Speaker 1: anybody die. Who was there, I don't know, but maybe maybe.
Speaker 1: Um before the finale, did you have a conversation with Greg? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he he called me, and you know, he'd asked everybody.
Speaker 1: He said, I want to know what your your feedback is,
Speaker 1: how do you think the character Creeds should leave? And
Speaker 1: I told him I thought it well, and I said,
Speaker 1: I think this is this song of mine. All the
Speaker 1: faces I could be at, poor Richards playing my guitar.
Speaker 1: You guys, the cast all walks in and I'm singing
Speaker 1: all the faces and the camera comes in on each
Speaker 1: of you. And he said, I like that idea. That's
Speaker 1: the last I heard of it until the table read,
Speaker 1: and then I saw it at that time and I
Speaker 1: almost cried, I literally and Brian, I want oh my God.
Speaker 1: Looked around there was my guitar. I didn't know I
Speaker 1: was going to sing that song until the table read.
Speaker 1: That's the first time I heard about it. They kept
Speaker 1: they kept it, They kept it just as a surprise.
Speaker 1: It was emotional. Wait, they they had your guitar. Now,
Speaker 1: the p A went and got my guitar and had
Speaker 1: it there. And I looked around like this, and I
Speaker 1: went on, I see reading the script and but oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm gonna sing this song. And what there is?
Speaker 1: Greg's letting me sing my song. And look around, they're
Speaker 1: they're all. They're standing back, they're smiling, and they got
Speaker 1: my guitar. They planned this. You know, will you play?
Speaker 1: Will you play a little bit for me? All right? Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta tear my phone on just for second, guys,
Speaker 1: to tune up this acts. This is the guitar I
Speaker 1: used actually on the on the show. This this old
Speaker 1: Martin and John. It's a good story. John. We couldn't
Speaker 1: get the microphone on the think and then the shot
Speaker 1: so Krasinski said he'd hold the shotgun. He had it
Speaker 1: under his arm when we were recording. You couldn't hide him, mind,
Speaker 1: I couldn't hide the mic for the guitar itself. And
Speaker 1: then John said, well, I'll just hold the shotgun mic
Speaker 1: under my arm because he was the closest. He was
Speaker 1: the closest to me, and and he was sitting there
Speaker 1: talking to looking over Pampit all the time. He's holding
Speaker 1: him right there on the sound hole. He's a team
Speaker 1: player like boy. We know that all right for you.
Speaker 1: I saw a friend to day. It had been a while.
Speaker 1: We forgot each other's name, but it didn't matter because
Speaker 1: deep inside m feeling still remains. We talked of knowing
Speaker 1: one before you've met, how you feel more than you see,
Speaker 1: and other worlds that lie spaces in between angels. We
Speaker 1: can see all the faces that I know have that
Speaker 1: same familiar glue. I think I must have known them
Speaker 1: somewhere once, beeful. All the faces that I know, and
Speaker 1: all the faces were seeking chen eirvery day. When we
Speaker 1: get home at night, there's one face me. And when
Speaker 1: my mind's absorbed on my private little screen and I'm walking,
Speaker 1: climbing through a sea of unknown men, I heard a
Speaker 1: voice reminded they're across the street, walks an old forgotten friends.
Speaker 1: We don't have to say a word. It's really better
Speaker 1: left unsaid, just light through as that recognize all the faces,
Speaker 1: all the faces I know, and all the faces we
Speaker 1: see each in air when we get home at night.
Speaker 1: There's one face we need all the faces I see
Speaker 1: eachin every day when I get home at night. Face
Speaker 1: I need when I get home at night. You're the
Speaker 1: only face I need. So great. There we go, so great, dude,
Speaker 1: Yeah it Um that gets me every time. Um, we're
Speaker 1: six years since you sang that song in the finale, right,
Speaker 1: do you feel like the show is bigger now than
Speaker 1: it was then? Without a doubt, without a doubt. And
Speaker 1: I can tell because I'm always out on the road,
Speaker 1: play in front of people. And I started out on
Speaker 1: the show with two people. Now it's eight hundred of
Speaker 1: thousand coming to see my show. And they come up
Speaker 1: to me and they're younger. And the kids that watched
Speaker 1: the show then are grown up. They turned their younger
Speaker 1: symbolis onto it. Their children. Oh my god, there's young
Speaker 1: people who were born by that time who've already have
Speaker 1: seen the show and and know the show. It's Dones,
Speaker 1: It's Dones. It's crazy, right it is. And I don't
Speaker 1: know how long how long this thing will last, but
Speaker 1: it seems to me that just keeps growing, you know,
Speaker 1: went away. Why do you think I think all this
Speaker 1: stuff we talked about before the Heart the Heart, I
Speaker 1: just think we should just enjoy it and you just
Speaker 1: try to try to figure out why. I mean, if
Speaker 1: somebody can figure it out, sure that would be great,
Speaker 1: But I don't think you can articulate exactly where where
Speaker 1: the magic occurs and how it occurs. Yeah, just accepted
Speaker 1: and being grateful. What are you most thankful for waking
Speaker 1: up in the mornings from your experience from the off? Um,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so many things, Brian, so many things,
Speaker 1: you know, just to to find that you can actually
Speaker 1: get together with a bunch of people in a community
Speaker 1: effort and and make make a wonderful thing, you know,
Speaker 1: and get like like you said, without the backbiting, without
Speaker 1: the egos and stuff like that, for everybody pulling together
Speaker 1: for a purpose. It's that it's that sixties thing. And
Speaker 1: we grew up. We thought we could change something, you know,
Speaker 1: and we did with that show as a game changer.
Speaker 1: And to find that you can work and in a
Speaker 1: harmonious environment is pretty rewarding stuff. We all got to
Speaker 1: laugh every day, so it wasn't like work to get
Speaker 1: to be. And that's the thing for me. I get
Speaker 1: to go to just something that I just enjoy. It's
Speaker 1: never like were it's a it's a blessing. It's an
Speaker 1: absolute blessing. Yeah, it's too out a head end. But
Speaker 1: if the good things have to all good things, we gosh,
Speaker 1: we had a song. All good things come to an end.
Speaker 1: It's true, you know, create we were a family, but
Speaker 1: I think we still are anyways, you know we still are.
Speaker 1: Can't take that away. It's it's rained in us now. UM.
Speaker 1: I love you. I love you man, and thanks for
Speaker 1: coming in and talking. Come on, it was my pleasure
Speaker 1: offering well not just your song, but you're your your
Speaker 1: sense of humor, thoughtfulness. So thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Is this now? Are you recording right now from your
Speaker 1: home studio? I'm going to turn the recording on right now,
Speaker 1: thank you fording me. There we go. I'm recording from
Speaker 1: my home stud Yes, indeed, you're recording from your home studio.
Speaker 1: It's so good to talk to you. Um. So, when
Speaker 1: I was putting together this podcast, we started talking about
Speaker 1: oh what music, and I was like, WHOA, what if
Speaker 1: we go to Creed, Like, let's let's look at some
Speaker 1: of Creed's music, some of his new stuff. And I
Speaker 1: hear your song Bubble and Squeak, and I just fall
Speaker 1: in love with it, Like I just it was like
Speaker 1: the perfect vibe for me. So where did Bubble and
Speaker 1: Squeak come from? Where did the inspiration for that come from?
Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak? I? Um, it was a year last
Speaker 1: year or the year before. I it's been so long now,
Speaker 1: which seems like we have been held held up, you know,
Speaker 1: held for ransom in these in our homes. Um. I
Speaker 1: went to Romanian shot this movie called The Sisters Brothers,
Speaker 1: and UH came back and I was spent spending some
Speaker 1: time in London, staying at hotel. They're just kind of
Speaker 1: cruising around owned and I this is my fun to third,
Speaker 1: third or fourth time there. And I went to have
Speaker 1: dinner or a lunch or something and they're on the
Speaker 1: menu had said Bubble and Squeak. And all these years
Speaker 1: that I've been there, I never had it. I never
Speaker 1: I was always curious. So I finally asked the wait
Speaker 1: I said, what does this mean? They said, oh, it's
Speaker 1: when you take a bunch of stuff, you know, and
Speaker 1: you just from from lunch or dinner the day before,
Speaker 1: and next morning you throw it all in a pan
Speaker 1: and you had some eggs. So I said, well, I
Speaker 1: do that all the time, and I do. I keep
Speaker 1: my dinner leftovers, and a lot of people do just
Speaker 1: toss me with eggs. It's a great way to have
Speaker 1: a breakfast that way. So, um, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: your show. And I commented, I think this is just
Speaker 1: kind of like your show because you're taking all these
Speaker 1: bits and pieces and stuff and you're not really sure
Speaker 1: what's gonna you hope it's going to turn out great,
Speaker 1: and you throw you throw it in the pan and
Speaker 1: you see what's what's gonna happen. Yes, we're taking what
Speaker 1: everybody said, whatever is left, and we're gonna put it
Speaker 1: in a pan and cook it up and try to
Speaker 1: deliver something fun and good. Well, Creed, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming back on and talking about the song.
Speaker 1: Thanks for letting us you bubble and sweet, and thank
Speaker 1: you for you, thank you for using it. I do
Speaker 1: appreciate my friend now absolutely I cannot wait for people
Speaker 1: to hear the rest of Mr Creed Broughton. So thanks
Speaker 1: so much, man, I really appreciate you. Love you too.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, folks, I don't know about you, but
Speaker 1: something about that guy, just I don't know, it just
Speaker 1: tugs at my old heart strings. He is truly one
Speaker 1: of a kind and I am a better person for
Speaker 1: knowing him. So thank you so much Creed for joining
Speaker 1: me in the studio and again for letting me use
Speaker 1: your fantastic song that works so perfectly for this podcast.
Speaker 1: You rock, and thanks to all of you for listening.
Speaker 1: You rock as well, I guess, and uh, I will
Speaker 1: see you all right back here next week for another
Speaker 1: episode of the Office Deep Dive. The Office Deep Dive
Speaker 1: is hosted and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside
Speaker 1: our executive producer Langley. Our senior producer is Tessa Kramer,
Speaker 1: our producer is Adam Macias, our associate producer is Emily Carr,
Speaker 1: and our assistant editor is Diego Tapia. My main man
Speaker 1: in the booth is Alec Moore. Our theme song Bubble
Speaker 1: and Squeak, performed by my great friend Cree Bratton, and
Speaker 1: the episode was mixed by Seth Olanski. Kay