Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you
Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break?
Speaker 1: Absolutely ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.
Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Mark twenty fifth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode
Speaker 1: number two. Welcome to a different edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We are live, but in all different locations. Everybody's at
Speaker 1: their own homes, social distancing, and but we got an
Speaker 1: hour of cow Boys talk here for you guys, live
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I got my crew, Nick, Dave, Amber,
Speaker 1: good to have you guys back with me so we
Speaker 1: can talk a little Cowboys football. Everybody's doing today, It's
Speaker 1: about time. It is about time. I mean, da Nick Good.
Speaker 1: I don't know where y'all were, but yeah, let's party.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to be like in The Brady Bunch,
Speaker 1: you know. I love that show, and Derek you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Dave probably don't, Amber, maybe not,
Speaker 1: but you know the Brady Bunch, y'all think I'm like eighteen.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, you keep getting we don't ever
Speaker 1: aige you you just stay at eighteen forever, right, yeah, exactly?
Speaker 1: All right, So we got a lot to talk about today.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been obviously a lot of news around
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Uh now the free agency has begun. They've
Speaker 1: been signing players, they've been losing players. Um, and I'll
Speaker 1: start the conversation right there just looking at it holistically.
Speaker 1: If you look at all the players that they've lost
Speaker 1: and they signed, I'll run down a quick lists for
Speaker 1: you guys here of the guys of the players at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have lost. And then I want to ask
Speaker 1: the simple question if you think the Cowboys are better
Speaker 1: or worse now than they were when the season ended
Speaker 1: or at the end of last season. So they've lost
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, Cam Fleming, Xavier Sphilo, Travis Frederick, Robert Quinn,
Speaker 1: Lee Collins, Byron Jones, Jeff Heath, and Jason Witten. They
Speaker 1: have added Gerald McCoy, Haha, Clinton Dix and Blake Bell.
Speaker 1: I think is a tight end that they're they're adding today.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's final yet, but that's what's
Speaker 1: being discussed at this point other names of guys that
Speaker 1: are that are actually having conversations with the Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: then Cowboys sound some of their owns, guys like Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: Kai for Bath, Amari Cooper, Joe Looney. So where do
Speaker 1: you guys think they are right now in free agency?
Speaker 1: Are they better or worse than they were at the
Speaker 1: end of the season. I'll start, I'll say worse. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know how they could not be how they
Speaker 1: can't be worse than what they were last year, just
Speaker 1: because of the of the guys that they've lost, the
Speaker 1: big names they lost to Robert Quinn and Byron Jones,
Speaker 1: and they haven't resigned anybody remotely close to replacing those
Speaker 1: two guys. So right now you have a need at
Speaker 1: pass rusher and you have a need at corner. I
Speaker 1: think safety, you could say, was a wash. So I'll
Speaker 1: let the other guys talk about about the other positions,
Speaker 1: But for me, those two right there, I think you're
Speaker 1: going into a draft with a big need now at
Speaker 1: corner and pass rushers. So I think that they're they're
Speaker 1: worse than what they were. Yeah, like Nick said, I
Speaker 1: don't think you can even question it to be honest
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, yeah, Anthony Brown is back, so
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, the Cowboys have three serviceable corners, but
Speaker 1: you didn't replace an all Pro cornerback. As of right now,
Speaker 1: you don't have a viable replacement for an eleven sack player.
Speaker 1: And Robert Quinn I know, you know, Tyrone Crawford's still
Speaker 1: kicking around coming off of hip surgery, didn't play most
Speaker 1: of last season. That's terrifying, you know, the offense not
Speaker 1: so much, but as of right now, it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like they have a viable way to replace Randall Cobb
Speaker 1: other than the draft. I saw, you know, Philip door
Speaker 1: Set signed with Seattle yesterday. So your list of like
Speaker 1: experienced slot receivers who can step in and do it
Speaker 1: that are available in free agency is not long at all,
Speaker 1: which probably prompts you to have to do something in
Speaker 1: the draft. It just seems like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of work they have to do to cover
Speaker 1: themselves for the draft, and like, honestly, not that many
Speaker 1: good players left to do it with, you know, for me,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying my best to stay calm because as
Speaker 1: soon as free agency starts every year, I feel that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are just kind of laying low, and then
Speaker 1: you see other teams signing people, and then you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what the heck are the Cowboys doing? Why are they
Speaker 1: not signing anybody? And then eventually they start signing some guys.
Speaker 1: My biggest worry is I don't want them to completely
Speaker 1: rely on the draft, to have to rely on that, because,
Speaker 1: like Dave said, like you need the experience. I am
Speaker 1: tired of sitting around waiting every year. Oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna grow into this kind of player
Speaker 1: in the future. And I always say this over and
Speaker 1: over on this show. I'm like, I'm tired of the future,
Speaker 1: like I want to now. I want to see guys
Speaker 1: coming in with experience and being able to perform this year. So,
Speaker 1: as of right now, even though that's my feeling and
Speaker 1: how I feel, I'm still trying to be patient and
Speaker 1: give this new coaching staff the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1: Let Steven Jones and Will McClay kind of work things
Speaker 1: down and see how they finally put this team together
Speaker 1: as a whole. But as of now, I don't think
Speaker 1: they're better than they were. So let's look at some
Speaker 1: of those individual guys. They lost Randall Cobb, who is
Speaker 1: there their slot receiver. Um, they've lost Travis Frederick now
Speaker 1: to retirement, big, big, big loss. We'll talk about that
Speaker 1: a little more in depth. They lost Robert Quinn defensive
Speaker 1: end pass rusher, and they lost Byron Jones a cornerback.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think the biggest hole is at
Speaker 1: this point for them based on the guys that they've lost. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: there we go. See I think it's I just like
Speaker 1: I said a minute ago, at the very least Anthony Brown,
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis and Cheeto can can do it. And they're not.
Speaker 1: They're not Byron Jones by any stretch. But I just
Speaker 1: like I said, like who is playing right in for
Speaker 1: this team right now? And that they'll probably add some
Speaker 1: more guys than the draft is also there, but like,
Speaker 1: don't feel great about Tyrone Crawford given what's going on
Speaker 1: with his injury history. And then you have Jalen Jelks
Speaker 1: and Joe Jackson. I just who is going to line
Speaker 1: up at that position in Week one? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: You're not counting on Randy Gregory. I mean it's awesome.
Speaker 1: I didn't make a laugh at that, but honestly, hopefully
Speaker 1: the new CBA lets him come back. You know, the
Speaker 1: word on the street is that he's applying for reinstatement,
Speaker 1: and I think the world of Randy. I really hope
Speaker 1: that for him. But number one, I can't count on it.
Speaker 1: Number Two, I feel like people think that he got
Speaker 1: suspended with like fifty career sacks to his name. He's
Speaker 1: got seven. He has seven career sacks. So as good
Speaker 1: as that would be, I hardly think it just completely
Speaker 1: solves the problem. Right, He is a He is a
Speaker 1: piece in a puzzle that will need other pieces in
Speaker 1: order for it to be successful. I think a defensive
Speaker 1: end agreed. Now, what's the deal with Antoine Woods right now?
Speaker 1: Good question. They he he's a exclusive rights free agent.
Speaker 1: They could have tendered him by now and they haven't.
Speaker 1: So that's a little bit interesting to me because I've
Speaker 1: been wondering, like, what's going on with him and why
Speaker 1: are they waiting on doing anything? Because when you see
Speaker 1: the lack of guys within the defensive line, that is
Speaker 1: one guy at least that you would assume or expect
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to bring back. Well, but I guess right
Speaker 1: now we'll go ahead, Dave, No, go ahead. Well, I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, I wonder how much the speculation
Speaker 1: around don Terry Poe fits into that. If they're looking
Speaker 1: at other guys out there, maybe they feel like they
Speaker 1: can upgrade that position. I know, I don't think there
Speaker 1: was much legs this, but you do have guys like
Speaker 1: Damien Damon Harrison, Snacks Harrison that are out there, So
Speaker 1: there may be other guys that they look at in
Speaker 1: free agency and they're looking at and saying, maybe we
Speaker 1: can upgrade the position. If we don't, then maybe we
Speaker 1: go back to an Antoine Woods. Yeah. Well Antone Woods
Speaker 1: is to me, sorry, Dave, but Antoine's a guy that,
Speaker 1: like as big as he looked walking around and in
Speaker 1: uniform and all that we're in that ninety nine, he's
Speaker 1: gonna look real small when you put them next to
Speaker 1: Dontari Poe. And I think it's I think it's important,
Speaker 1: and who wouldn't, but I think it's important that to
Speaker 1: know that the Cowboys are definitely trying to change that
Speaker 1: look of what their defensive tackles look like. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think now Crawford is definitely a defensive end. I
Speaker 1: don't know where Tristan Hill. I mean, he's under contract
Speaker 1: for three years, so you know he's gonna be here,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if he's the perfect fit for
Speaker 1: what they're looking for for that type of position now
Speaker 1: very I had completely forgotten about him. Sorry. Sorry, It's
Speaker 1: very fitting timing because words you know, they've been linked
Speaker 1: to Dontarri Poe for four or five days and it
Speaker 1: sounds like that's being finalized right now per Twitter, which yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Nick's absolutely right there obviously, between Gerald McCoy
Speaker 1: Dontari Poe. I just think they're looking at a bigger
Speaker 1: mold of defensive tackle than Antoine Woods. And maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: if if things don't work out in free agency the
Speaker 1: way they want them to, it would be very easy
Speaker 1: to bring him back. All they have to do is
Speaker 1: tender him. So I wouldn't rule it out completely, but
Speaker 1: I think they want to get larger at that position
Speaker 1: based on what they're doing so far. Just so people
Speaker 1: know the actual measurements. Antoine Wood six foot even three
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. Don Terry Post six ft three forty six pounds,
Speaker 1: so he's almost fifty pounds heavier, three inches taller. He
Speaker 1: is a big, massive, guy, Nick, you've always said, give
Speaker 1: me that big sloppy guy. I could put the one technique.
Speaker 1: This may be your big sloppy guy. You put it
Speaker 1: the one technique that's hard to move, and it maybe
Speaker 1: a little harder to move than than even in Antoine Wood,
Speaker 1: who's a big guy. But this guy's even bigger, bigger.
Speaker 1: And also, I mean, you know, if you have issues
Speaker 1: in the red zone, he has thrown a touchdown pass.
Speaker 1: He's the only player in the NFL history, the only
Speaker 1: defensive tackle to ever throw a touchdown pass. And if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, google it. It's pretty awesome. So
Speaker 1: you're saying, if they can't get the deal worked out
Speaker 1: with Dak and Dak decided to hold out, we should
Speaker 1: be okay. Yeah, but you know what, relax, let's forget
Speaker 1: forget that though. Hey, guys, forget the part about don
Speaker 1: Terry Poe because they got the Belldozer And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember that, but I mean, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure Derek does. He played at Oklahoma what ten years ago,
Speaker 1: and bring that up. Well, I mean, you know the
Speaker 1: Belldoz or you probably don't even know his name, but
Speaker 1: you know what the Belldozer you're right, Jim Tibo. He
Speaker 1: was Tibo before tibodn't now and Tebow was first. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, I don't know the timing on that.
Speaker 1: Another time on that. All right, let's let's let's move
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I want to talk about some
Speaker 1: of the other free agency that are out there. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw some names of you guys, and i want
Speaker 1: you to tell me if any of these names strike
Speaker 1: you as as players that you would like the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Not again, we're not saying the Cowboys are talking to them,
Speaker 1: but players that you would like the Cowboys maybe to
Speaker 1: consider based upon where they are right now in free agency.
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett, Tavon Austin. Those are two names of guys
Speaker 1: that were here last year. There are still free agents.
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin, the defensive end from Minnesota. We talk by
Speaker 1: Damon Harrison. I mentioned him just a few minutes ago.
Speaker 1: Defensive tackle Ted Ginn Juniors out there. If you need
Speaker 1: a guy that can return punts and kicks and give
Speaker 1: you a little bit of something speed receiver, Jadeveon Clowney.
Speaker 1: Defensive end, you got Delaney Walker, which is an interesting
Speaker 1: name at tight end now obviously Blake Bell being signed today,
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not a guy that even factors in. But
Speaker 1: a name I throw on the list. And then at quarterback,
Speaker 1: an interesting name, Matt Moore, guy used to be here,
Speaker 1: he's a free agent. If you're looking for a backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: maybe a guy has a little more experience, maybe he fits.
Speaker 1: Any of those names strike you as guys you would
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys to show some interesting Yeah, bring on
Speaker 1: Clowney clowning. I mean, let's say yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if realism not my salary capture, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. Realism is a part of this, so
Speaker 1: I want you to think of it realistically. But but
Speaker 1: just names you say, hey, you know that guy may
Speaker 1: actually fit, I will say it is. So the league
Speaker 1: year opened officially a week ago today, and stuff's been
Speaker 1: going on for two days before that. So it's been
Speaker 1: a week and a half really since teams started negotiating,
Speaker 1: and Jedevian Clowney remains unsigned, which clearly means that what's
Speaker 1: his volume run? Now, Well, that's that's the great question.
Speaker 1: It's it's very obvious Clowney wanted DeMarcus Lawrence money like
Speaker 1: he wanted twenty plus million dollars a year. He wanted
Speaker 1: to be the next bank breaking pass rusher. Teams don't
Speaker 1: want to pay him that because he's got a long
Speaker 1: injury history and he only had three sacks last year.
Speaker 1: So I think it's highly unlikely that the Cowboys would
Speaker 1: get involved in that sweepstakes. But the longer he goes unsigned,
Speaker 1: I assume the lower his price would be. So I
Speaker 1: really don't expect him to wind up here. But it
Speaker 1: does make me curious that he's been a free agent
Speaker 1: for a week and a half. You know what worries
Speaker 1: me about a guy like Jadeveon Clowney is it's interesting
Speaker 1: to me when you see a pass rusher that has
Speaker 1: now had two different teams say we're okay. You know,
Speaker 1: when Houston, oh we'll get we'll just get rid of him.
Speaker 1: We're good, we're fine, And now when you have Seattle
Speaker 1: after having him there for a year, say now we're good.
Speaker 1: It just it just makes me a little bit cautious. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not the one that buys into the whole idea
Speaker 1: of there's a reason they're they're a free agent, Like
Speaker 1: I think there are lots of reason a player can
Speaker 1: be a free agent. But I do think that at
Speaker 1: specific positions that are sometimes hard to feel, like finding
Speaker 1: a good pass rusher, the fact that two teams have
Speaker 1: said we're fine does make me a little bit worried either.
Speaker 1: You guys think that when you when you think about
Speaker 1: a player like Jadevian Clowney, Well, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you have a good point, but there are exceptions to
Speaker 1: the rule. And you know, I think Robert Quinn's gonna
Speaker 1: be going on his fourth team in five years, and
Speaker 1: I think the Bears, obviously we're excited about that, so um,
Speaker 1: you know, and Randall Cobb, now this is three this
Speaker 1: will be three straight years for him, So I that's
Speaker 1: just the nature of it. I mean, but you're right
Speaker 1: for that money, I can I can see your point
Speaker 1: for sure on Clowney, but I you know, I look
Speaker 1: at it like the book in when he was there
Speaker 1: with with J. J. Watt, and I think he could
Speaker 1: be there with the DeMarcus Lawrence. I mean, that would
Speaker 1: be awesome. But I'm telling you that their salary cap
Speaker 1: is didn't the cap didn't go up as much as
Speaker 1: they wanted it to. So they've got more cat Cowboys
Speaker 1: have more cat problems than you might think. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think a contract like that makes sense for them.
Speaker 1: They're going to be they would be in cap hell
Speaker 1: if if they did a deal like that, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Clowney and Griffin are going to cost more than they're
Speaker 1: willing to pay. I think they could probably make it
Speaker 1: work if they really wanted to. I don't necessarily advise
Speaker 1: that they do. That is the thing that scares me
Speaker 1: about Clowney is just price versu availability. Like he hasn't
Speaker 1: had a you know, he's played thirteen or more games
Speaker 1: every year but one in his career, but like by
Speaker 1: the end of last season with Seattle, he had about
Speaker 1: six different problems limiting him. And I feel like that's
Speaker 1: been a theme for his career, not necessarily missing games,
Speaker 1: but just being hindered. And for the price, I just
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's one hundred percent worth it. Um.
Speaker 1: I would love and the Cowboys on tend to give
Speaker 1: big money to free agents that are not at home,
Speaker 1: you know, but not their own free agents. That's the
Speaker 1: point we've been making for weeks though, is that they
Speaker 1: need to spend a little bit more money if they
Speaker 1: expect to improve the team, Like I think, do you
Speaker 1: know Don Arrepoe great addition, Gerald McCoy a great addition.
Speaker 1: Glad they brought Anthony brownback. I'm intrigued by haha, Clinton Dix.
Speaker 1: But like, the defense does not look better on paper
Speaker 1: than it was last year. It just doesn't. What do
Speaker 1: you guys know about Evston Griffin because that that's the
Speaker 1: one that that's a little bit perplexing to me because
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good defensive end. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of surprised he's still out on the free agent market.
Speaker 1: Is there something I'm missing about what he is? Is
Speaker 1: there an injury history? Is there's something about him that
Speaker 1: maybe could point to a reason why he still hasn't
Speaker 1: been signed by someone At this point, I can't tell you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that Mike McCarthy should should know
Speaker 1: a little bit about him, you know, playing against the
Speaker 1: Vikings for so long, so I you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would seem like a pretty good good
Speaker 1: fit just to you know, another one of those bridge players.
Speaker 1: But you know, you got to remember that what the
Speaker 1: what they view these players for, they're not trying to
Speaker 1: to break the bank, and I think, you know, guy
Speaker 1: like Griffin, maybe Clowney, you know, they look at it
Speaker 1: like this is one more big opportunity to make, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of money, and so you know, I think
Speaker 1: people just have different agendas right now for what these
Speaker 1: roles would be. Yeah, I think. I mean when a
Speaker 1: guy like kind of like Clowney, I think it's price
Speaker 1: verse market. He's thirty two years old, honestly, like he's
Speaker 1: barely missed any playing time, Like he's very reliable, but
Speaker 1: thirty two year old coming off an eight sacks season,
Speaker 1: he probably has a different idea of what he's worth
Speaker 1: than the teams that are pursuing him. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I still think he's going to be
Speaker 1: worth more than what the Cowboys want to pay. But
Speaker 1: every day that a guy like that goes unsigned, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's better for teams that don't want to
Speaker 1: spend a bit more money because eventually your christ has
Speaker 1: to go down. Right. That brings up another name, Michael Bennett.
Speaker 1: How do you guys feel about that? As long as
Speaker 1: he sits out on the market, Let's assume it gets
Speaker 1: to a point where he's willing to take a one
Speaker 1: year deal again, I think the Cowboys should go after
Speaker 1: a guy like like Bennett. Isn't he retiring? I mean,
Speaker 1: he hasn't said that, but honestly, at the end of
Speaker 1: last year that it was headed to like he was
Speaker 1: headed to retirement. I don't know what I thought. I
Speaker 1: think he said he was not. I thought I'd read
Speaker 1: somewhere that he was planning to play this year. But
Speaker 1: maybe I'm thinking about someone else. I saw a tight
Speaker 1: end retire and go to money Night Football. I'll come
Speaker 1: back and play. And now he's going to the you know, Wraiters.
Speaker 1: So I mean, what, you know, what if Michael Bennett,
Speaker 1: you know Michael Bennett. I think the Cowboys are going
Speaker 1: to have some interesting players on the defensive And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm gonna just gonna say that they're gonna
Speaker 1: have some interesting players and stories at the defensive end position.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be Michael Bennett. So Randy Gregory obviously, well, yeah, Ran,
Speaker 1: if Michael Bennet wanted to sign back for a one
Speaker 1: year deal, I'd love to have him. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I there was speculation he was retiring. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the new coaching staff thinks about its skill set.
Speaker 1: But so he did enough for you to want to
Speaker 1: bring him back. Absolutely, Yeah, he can play. He can
Speaker 1: still play, I think, so I'll take the off sides,
Speaker 1: flags and everything. Bring it on, yep. And he has
Speaker 1: that attitude. He has the attitude that you know, we
Speaker 1: keep talking about the defense sometimes needing that little fire.
Speaker 1: He has that kind of firing. He he doesn't. He's
Speaker 1: just focused on what he needs to do and goals
Speaker 1: for it. So we're gonna take our We're gonna take
Speaker 1: our first break, and when we come back, I want
Speaker 1: to take a little time to dive into the most
Speaker 1: recent signing. I guess the most recent signing before today,
Speaker 1: which was Haha, Clinton Dix. Get your opinions and what
Speaker 1: you think he brings this team and how he rates
Speaker 1: relative to the guy that you'd be replacing in Jeff People.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when we come right back. This
Speaker 1: is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. I'm Jay Novachik, former
Speaker 1: tight end for the Dallas Cowboys. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: I was the guy who always got the tough yards
Speaker 1: and that's why I run with John Deer today. In fact,
Speaker 1: I have a John Deer three zero twenty five E
Speaker 1: tractor that can handle any yard work I need to do,
Speaker 1: even the tough yards way out back. So if you
Speaker 1: have one acre or a thousand, John Deer has the
Speaker 1: equipment that's just right for you. Visit a John Deer
Speaker 1: dealer today and run with us. We are the official
Speaker 1: tractor provider of your Dallas Cowboys. Laura is a proud
Speaker 1: sponsor of the Dallas Cowboys, helping fans see more and
Speaker 1: do more with our best vision solutions. Our lens technologies
Speaker 1: reveal a world more beautiful than you can imagine. For
Speaker 1: a limited time, get the slur next Gen Offer, where
Speaker 1: you buy the latest generation of transitions lenses with select
Speaker 1: Slur lenses. You can choose a second pair of clear
Speaker 1: lenses for free with qualifying frame purchases. Restrictions apply. Find
Speaker 1: a participating eyecare professional by visiting slur usa dot com.
Speaker 1: See more. Do more want to use what the pros use?
Speaker 1: How about the official men's skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Jack Black. Right now you can get the Jack Black Starter,
Speaker 1: a curated collection of Cowboys locker room favorites, for just
Speaker 1: ten bucks with free shipping. The starter includes four Jack
Speaker 1: Clack skincare favorites plus a full sized and tense therapy
Speaker 1: lip bomb. Go to get Jack Black dot com slash
Speaker 1: Cowboys and use the code word team JB. That's Get
Speaker 1: Jack Black dot com slash Cowboys, The Jack Black Starter,
Speaker 1: ten bucks, free shipping your new apartments big, such a
Speaker 1: great deal. That's okay, just okay. What's not right above
Speaker 1: the subway? Well, I bet you don't even notice it
Speaker 1: after that's my neighbor. Ain't in the deal? That's just okay,
Speaker 1: It's not okay. Get a great deal with America's best network.
Speaker 1: Come into an AT and T store to find out
Speaker 1: how to get one of our popular smartphones for zero
Speaker 1: dollars down based on GWS one score. September twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Back to the Break, Welcome back to the Break. We
Speaker 1: are live, we're in different locations. We're keeping our distance,
Speaker 1: but we're talking Cowboys football here with you guys. Here
Speaker 1: on the Break. We're talking about free agency, and I
Speaker 1: guess I want to start this next segment talking a
Speaker 1: little bit about ha Ha Clinton Dix. He is the
Speaker 1: safety the Cowboys signed. I think it was maybe late
Speaker 1: last week, but Thursday night good and so I want
Speaker 1: to get your opinions on what you think of the
Speaker 1: signing just overall him as a player, what do you
Speaker 1: think he brings to the Cowboys. Let's start with you, Nick.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that he's just a veteran guy
Speaker 1: that has pretty good range. It sounds like, again he
Speaker 1: goes into your category of some players that have been
Speaker 1: in different teams and good enough to sign, not good
Speaker 1: enough to keep, and so you know that's those guys
Speaker 1: are always interesting, but you know, usually when you surround
Speaker 1: them around guys with really good cornerbacks, you feel better
Speaker 1: about it. That's why, you know, I think it's a
Speaker 1: little bit I'm a little uneasy about all that because
Speaker 1: I just I don't know if he's the exact answer there,
Speaker 1: just because you know, just because he's got a catchy
Speaker 1: name and he's a first round pick and he's got
Speaker 1: history with McCarthy, that doesn't always mean that it's going
Speaker 1: to work out. So I'm a little bit hesitant about
Speaker 1: saying that this is going to be a good move. Dave,
Speaker 1: I like it, Yeah, I mean I agree. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a former first round pick, he's been to a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I don't think he's going to conjure up
Speaker 1: image is of like Earl Thomas, you know, like, this
Speaker 1: isn't that type of signing. He's got flaws in his game.
Speaker 1: He's not the best tackler, he's not amazing and run support.
Speaker 1: He can get reckless in coverage, like he'll give up
Speaker 1: some plays. At the same time, the thing that makes
Speaker 1: you a first round pick most of the time at
Speaker 1: safety is when you have ball skills and the ability
Speaker 1: to make plays on the ball. So my hope is
Speaker 1: if he can contribute a handful of takeaways. That's a
Speaker 1: handful more than the Cowboys safeties have provided in recent seasons.
Speaker 1: I think he had two picks for the Bears last year,
Speaker 1: which you know, preferably be a little bit more, but
Speaker 1: that's still better than what you've gotten from the safety
Speaker 1: position in recent years. So, like I said, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think this is a home run signing, but if
Speaker 1: he can use those ball skills to add to your
Speaker 1: takeaway tally, hopefully it'll work out pretty well. You know.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I've been paying attention to
Speaker 1: this for this upcoming year is a tackling, which is
Speaker 1: obviously one of the things that the Cowboys struggle with.
Speaker 1: Last year as a defense And you know, when I
Speaker 1: when I started looking in day will know and I
Speaker 1: start looking at all these players prospect from the draft,
Speaker 1: most of them all have like tackling issues, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know what the deal is with the whole tackling.
Speaker 1: So for me, at least, this is a guy that
Speaker 1: has experienced on the field. And I keep saying it,
Speaker 1: I want someone with experience. I don't want a rookie
Speaker 1: or depend on a rookie to start off the season.
Speaker 1: I want someone that's capable of going in there and
Speaker 1: and he has you know, he has the um what
Speaker 1: do you call it, like the fitness level. He's not
Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for. Athleticism is what I'm
Speaker 1: looking for. It's a big word, right, There's very about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So he has a good aspect that he brings, but
Speaker 1: the whole tackling thing that concerns me not a whole lot,
Speaker 1: but it's still something that I'm definitely keeping in my
Speaker 1: eyes on. Yeah, for those of you out there listening
Speaker 1: and watching, if you haven't had a chance to check
Speaker 1: out Dallas scoutboys dot com, yesterday we put up a
Speaker 1: scoutter report from our own Bucky Brooks, who is now
Speaker 1: starting to do some a little work with our team.
Speaker 1: He'll be doing some scouter reports for a lot of
Speaker 1: players over this next field the next few months. But
Speaker 1: just go check out that scoutter report and one of
Speaker 1: the things that just kind of jumped off the page
Speaker 1: when I read it was he called him the perfect
Speaker 1: bridge player. And that's exactly how I thought of this
Speaker 1: signing is this is a guy that is going to
Speaker 1: give you time. He's buying you time for you to
Speaker 1: develop someone else. So likelihood that he's going to be
Speaker 1: sitting in that spot a couple of years from now
Speaker 1: is probably pretty small. Question is who's going to be
Speaker 1: in that spot? Who are they gonna draft this year?
Speaker 1: Who might they I don't think it's probably going to
Speaker 1: be a free agent signing at this point, but I
Speaker 1: think you have to look at who are they got
Speaker 1: a draft they can bring in and start getting them
Speaker 1: reps this year so that next year or the year
Speaker 1: after that person is your league gout? You know the
Speaker 1: thing about and we've said this several times. We've heard
Speaker 1: the term bridge player a lot, But the question I
Speaker 1: have is are the Cowboys going to cross it? You
Speaker 1: can build a bridge all you want to, but do
Speaker 1: they want to get to the other side because they
Speaker 1: can't develop They're not going to develop a fifth round
Speaker 1: safety or sixth round safety. They try with Xavier Woods,
Speaker 1: and you know that's cute and all, but I mean,
Speaker 1: if at some point you're gonna have to to make that,
Speaker 1: you know, that move and actually draft a really high
Speaker 1: caliber safety and so hopefully you know we can that
Speaker 1: could be this year. But I mean, then again, we
Speaker 1: just we just mentioned defensive end, cornerback, and now center
Speaker 1: are our positions that you're going into the draft, slot receiver.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if safety is gonna gonna be
Speaker 1: the case this year. It may be best available. I've
Speaker 1: been I've been hurt before. Like ideally, I would love
Speaker 1: to say this is perfect. You got Haha, you got Woods,
Speaker 1: draft the safety in the top, you know, one hundred
Speaker 1: picks first three rounds and that's your guy for the
Speaker 1: future and Haha is a perfect bridge. But I gotta
Speaker 1: see it to believe that they're going to do it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Nick just laid it out perfectly. Like right now,
Speaker 1: it's still time and free agency. But like you all right,
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, I'm rooting for you, man, but you probably
Speaker 1: need to draft a defensive end, cornerback, don't feel great
Speaker 1: about it, don't have a slot receiver, and then there's
Speaker 1: the safety issues. So even with all you know, I
Speaker 1: think Poe would be their fifth or sixth signing from
Speaker 1: outside and they still have work to do. All right, Nick,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the center position. I want to dive into
Speaker 1: now the conversation around Travis Frederick who announced I think
Speaker 1: it was yesterday that he is retiring from the NFL.
Speaker 1: Interesting statement that he made talking about his struggles coming
Speaker 1: back and he just didn't feel like he could be
Speaker 1: the player that he was accustomed to being. How surprised
Speaker 1: were you guys, and how surprised do you think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were at this retirement. I'm not gonna say I was.
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I mean a little bit surprised, but I
Speaker 1: mean somebody in our office actually said like two or
Speaker 1: three years ago that he wasn't gonna play very long.
Speaker 1: And this was before all of that happened. So that's
Speaker 1: been on the report of syndrome. Oh yeah, like three
Speaker 1: years ago. Was like, well what if he doesn't? You know,
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly how it went. Down, but it
Speaker 1: was put on the radar that he's not long for this,
Speaker 1: and I you know, yeah, and I've mentioned this a
Speaker 1: little bit and then coming back, he didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a great year Pro Bowl. That's that's nice,
Speaker 1: But I mean I don't think a lot of people
Speaker 1: know a lot of centers in the league, and so
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, Frederick, Pro Bowl. Sure, but he didn't
Speaker 1: have a Pro Bowl year and he admitted it and
Speaker 1: he knows it, and I think he just SE's just
Speaker 1: saying his future and his family are more important than
Speaker 1: football right now. On top of that. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's one of those things you know, you have
Speaker 1: that benefit working in the building that I've heard it
Speaker 1: mentioned or rumored at least a handful of times over
Speaker 1: the last two or three years that retirement could be
Speaker 1: something to watch out for Travis Frederick. It's not the
Speaker 1: type of thing that you want to throw out there
Speaker 1: recklessly because it's a guy's career. But I wasn't that
Speaker 1: caught off guard. I if anything, I was. I thought,
Speaker 1: the guy makes thirteen million dollars a year, Like that's
Speaker 1: hard money to walk away from. But I think Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick played at such a high level for such a
Speaker 1: long time that he wasn't going to be satisfied playing
Speaker 1: at a lesser level. So it made it made sense,
Speaker 1: you know. I guess the timing kind of caught me
Speaker 1: off guard, but like when you think about it in
Speaker 1: the big picture, it didn't. It's not the most shocking
Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened, that's for sure. Yeah, it definitely
Speaker 1: ain't calling me by a surprise. Obviously, it's not what
Speaker 1: you like Dave said, it's not a big picture, it's
Speaker 1: not surprising, but I wasn't expecting it to happen right now.
Speaker 1: You know, you see football players and he even mentioned this,
Speaker 1: I'd believing his better that football players are always thinking
Speaker 1: of they're afraid of what's next when you're out of football.
Speaker 1: So in my mind, every player is trying to stay
Speaker 1: in the NFL as long as possible. And to me,
Speaker 1: the way the progress that he was able to make
Speaker 1: from when he got the syndrome to where he was
Speaker 1: at last year was tremendous. So in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's good to go. He looks fine for
Speaker 1: another year, but clearly he knows his body way better
Speaker 1: than anybody else, and he knows what's more important to
Speaker 1: him at this stage in his life. But definitely call
Speaker 1: me by surprise. Luckily, the Cowboys did sign Joe Looney,
Speaker 1: so at least that's good. He's a guy that's proven
Speaker 1: he's done it before, and that's at least someone that
Speaker 1: can hold you in for the moment. You know. The
Speaker 1: good thing though about it what you just said about,
Speaker 1: you know, life after football. I think when the players
Speaker 1: are signing each other's yearbooks like they do at the
Speaker 1: end of school and say most likely to succeed after football,
Speaker 1: I bet Travis Frederick is the number one guy on
Speaker 1: that list of guys that no one's worried about what
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to do. I think he
Speaker 1: was a double major maybe in Collins, so one of
Speaker 1: the smartest players they've ever had, and I think that
Speaker 1: that showed on the field and not just a BookSmart guy.
Speaker 1: He helped them on the field, and that's what I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna miss more than anything as we talk
Speaker 1: about possible or replacements here. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I think I remember someone telling me he's already built
Speaker 1: an app that was I think his major was something
Speaker 1: like computer science or something like that. But yeah, that
Speaker 1: he's already built an app at Wow, while he's been playing,
Speaker 1: he's built an app and plans maybe to build him
Speaker 1: a lot more. So. Yeah, I don't three years deared
Speaker 1: about say again, three years from now, it's gonna be like, hey,
Speaker 1: hello Sharks, my name is Travis, and I'm here today
Speaker 1: seeking whatever. Yeah. Right, and so so talking through Nick,
Speaker 1: you started talking about options of what they do from here.
Speaker 1: At least showed me when when you see this in
Speaker 1: retrospect it and you look back on the fact that
Speaker 1: they signed Looney pretty early on in free agency, it
Speaker 1: suggests to me maybe true, maybe not, but it suggests
Speaker 1: to me that maybe the Cowboys saw that this was
Speaker 1: a possibility and so they covered themselves in that way.
Speaker 1: But talk me through the options of what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can do at center based on what they already have
Speaker 1: in house. I mean, I can do it, but I'd
Speaker 1: rather pass it on to Dave. Dave wrote a really
Speaker 1: great article which was the theme of the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: He's been killing it. But Dave wrote a great article
Speaker 1: about a lot of options there. So I'll let Dave.
Speaker 1: I mean Looney now and and and McGovern, but maybe
Speaker 1: Connor Williams. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be interested. It's
Speaker 1: you know, for all the surprise and panic, I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it, and it's obviously a
Speaker 1: big hole. I mean, yes, the Cowboys they made it
Speaker 1: to the playoffs without Travis in twenty eighteen, but it
Speaker 1: was a clear drop off and play Joe Looney did
Speaker 1: his best, but even he has said multiple times that
Speaker 1: he's not Rabis Frederick having said that they're pretty well
Speaker 1: prepared for this, they resigned Joe. He was a sixteen
Speaker 1: game starter just two seasons ago, played well. And then hey,
Speaker 1: kudos to the Cowboys for drafting the best player available,
Speaker 1: because as weird as it seemed when they drafted Connor
Speaker 1: McGovern last year, now they have a top one hundred
Speaker 1: draft pick who can play guard and center. I believe
Speaker 1: started fourteen games at center at Penn State, so he's
Speaker 1: done it against high quality competition. And then you've got
Speaker 1: Adam Redman, who they picked up the option on his
Speaker 1: deal before free agency even started. He was a college center.
Speaker 1: And then Connor Williams. That's gonna be interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: you could. Theoretically, Connor McGovern could be a better left
Speaker 1: guard than Connor Williams, and the Cowboys have said before
Speaker 1: that they think Connor Williams has the flexibility to play center.
Speaker 1: We'll see if they actually do that, but it's not
Speaker 1: something I would rule out. But I mean, that's four
Speaker 1: veteran NFL players on your roster that can handle it.
Speaker 1: I didn't put this in my article, but technically Zach
Speaker 1: Martin could do it in a pinch too. He's done
Speaker 1: it in practice before. I don't think I would move
Speaker 1: the best right guard of football, but if push came
Speaker 1: to show, I guess they could point being is like,
Speaker 1: I really, I don't think they need to worry about
Speaker 1: it in the draft. They've got plenty of options among
Speaker 1: the guys that are already here, even with the loss
Speaker 1: of guys like Xavius Sulphilo and I know how at
Speaker 1: tackle your swing tackle Cam Fleming. With losing those guys,
Speaker 1: do you think that does that at all make you
Speaker 1: think even though you got a lot of names here,
Speaker 1: do you think they still need to add a few
Speaker 1: more bodies to this list on the offensive line? Oh,
Speaker 1: I definite. I mean tackles Another story especially if Connor
Speaker 1: if Travis Frederick's retirement kind of kills the thought of
Speaker 1: Connor Williams moving to tackle, which we don't even know
Speaker 1: if they were going to do that, but it's something
Speaker 1: we've talked about. If you're not going to do that,
Speaker 1: If if Connor Williams is either going to play a
Speaker 1: guard or center, all the more reason why I'm looking
Speaker 1: at tackles in the draft, probably and not you know,
Speaker 1: not with pick seventeen, but wherever you can find the
Speaker 1: best value to a upgrade swing tackle and b give
Speaker 1: yourself some insurance for Tyran Smith. I think that's a
Speaker 1: sneaky thig priority, you know, one of the you know,
Speaker 1: obviously the reason we're doing all this is, you know,
Speaker 1: we just have so much uncertainty right now with when
Speaker 1: people are gonna be able to practice, when the doors
Speaker 1: are going to be open, and all that stuff. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think relying on young guys it's always
Speaker 1: a tricky thing, but in a season like this, we
Speaker 1: don't know how much time they're gonna be on the field,
Speaker 1: and so, you know, I think having a veteran guy.
Speaker 1: That's not why they signed Joe Looney, but I think
Speaker 1: signing Joe Looney certainly helped, because you know, if it
Speaker 1: gets down to it, maybe it's just maybe there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of OTAs. Maybe there's no OTAs. Maybe they
Speaker 1: go right to the training camp. I would rather have
Speaker 1: a guy like Joe Looney or some kind of veteran
Speaker 1: that that that can step in. So I think teams
Speaker 1: might be shifting a little bit there, covering themselves else knowing, yeah,
Speaker 1: we drafted some great players, but they didn't get a
Speaker 1: lot of OTA works, they didn't get any mini camps.
Speaker 1: We're throwing them in there for training camp. It might
Speaker 1: it might take a little bit longer to get these
Speaker 1: guys ready to go. And even with I was gonna
Speaker 1: just mentioned real quick, even with Connor McGovern, he didn't
Speaker 1: have a rookie year last year. You know, he wasn't
Speaker 1: able to do what rookies do in their first year.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, to me, last time I
Speaker 1: saw him, he was still like he looks rather small,
Speaker 1: you know, to where you would want those kind of
Speaker 1: guys to be out And Karner Williams has been a
Speaker 1: guy that we've talked about, you know, the lack of
Speaker 1: strength and power and to me, like at least with
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern. I really wonder what's gonna be the plan
Speaker 1: with him, especially if, like Nick mentioned, if we don't
Speaker 1: have a great off season too where they're able to
Speaker 1: go in their workout practice and all that. I wonder
Speaker 1: how long it's going to take him to kind of
Speaker 1: build up that strength that he would need for any
Speaker 1: type of position within the old line. That's it. I'm
Speaker 1: convinced signed Ron Larry. He's another guy. Yeah, he is
Speaker 1: another guy that's out there, and I guess at some point,
Speaker 1: at some point you probably could get We could get
Speaker 1: him for a pretty decent price. Yeah, he has a
Speaker 1: house here. As as he's pointed out, there's probably answer question,
Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, what do you say? Day? It seems
Speaker 1: like every free agent was a Cowboys. Every free agent
Speaker 1: that Cowboys fans want them to sign that they aren't
Speaker 1: signing seems to have a house in Dallas, So proximity
Speaker 1: is not holding them popular places. Yeah. Yeah. The interesting
Speaker 1: question from Twitter from alfredos Alnas. He says, with the
Speaker 1: new roster rule, how many offensive lineman do you expect
Speaker 1: on the final roster? I guess knowing that now Cowboys
Speaker 1: or all teams in NFL will be able to have
Speaker 1: an extra I think it's an extra two players active
Speaker 1: on game day. One of them has to be an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. How much do you think that factors into
Speaker 1: some of these kinds of things. And we're talking about
Speaker 1: these offensive linemen and maybe bringing in another body, is
Speaker 1: that does that at all affect these decisions? I mean,
Speaker 1: the way you said it was a little tricky. You
Speaker 1: have to have eight offensive lineman active, and so that
Speaker 1: I mean some teams could have nine or ten. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna change to have that mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you have to have eight
Speaker 1: active every game, they usually have seven, sometimes eight. But
Speaker 1: I still think that you're gonna be sitting around ten
Speaker 1: on your roster. I don't because they're not. I think
Speaker 1: more than anything, you those extra two spots are gonna be,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, more linebackers and maybe more receivers, but
Speaker 1: just more guys or defensive backs, but more guys to
Speaker 1: play special teams. It's kind of curious to me. It's
Speaker 1: actually kind of curious to me that the league made
Speaker 1: this rule and specified offensive linemen because of all the
Speaker 1: positions in football, offensive line and probably quarterback are probably
Speaker 1: the last of the positions that don't rotate. You look
Speaker 1: at all the other positions in the NFL, for the
Speaker 1: most part, most teams rotate those guys, and you would
Speaker 1: think if they were gonna have extra reinforcements per game
Speaker 1: day in order to give more more bodies that you
Speaker 1: can throw at plays. Again, especially if you're going to
Speaker 1: increase to an additional game to seventeen regular season games,
Speaker 1: it would seem to me that you would actually want
Speaker 1: to specify those players maybe at other positions rather than
Speaker 1: offensive line. Seems a little curious to me. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: at least for the Cowboys. I mean, you've seen sich
Speaker 1: Martin getting hurt during a game. We know Connor Williams
Speaker 1: has gotten hurt and us and we don't have Xaviers
Speaker 1: to a fielt anymore. Tyren Smith is another guy that
Speaker 1: has struggled with injuries. I'm not saying they're not gonna
Speaker 1: be fully healthy this year or anything, but those are
Speaker 1: already three guys within the offensive line that are starters
Speaker 1: that to me, I'm always concerned now whether or not
Speaker 1: they could get injured in the middle of the game.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe that helps at least with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But to me, I don't see it as
Speaker 1: something bad. I think I think that's exactly why they
Speaker 1: they're doing it, is because those injuries inside the game,
Speaker 1: and they don't want players to be like make choices
Speaker 1: and say, well, as you're knee okay, because I mean,
Speaker 1: you're the only guard we've got, you know, and they
Speaker 1: have to go out there. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: could see the same thing being said about quarterbacks. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise me if they did that where you know,
Speaker 1: you got to have three quarterbacks active, but or at
Speaker 1: least in uniform. You know they have done that in
Speaker 1: the past. But yeah, all right, looks take our final break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, Amber's got a game for us.
Speaker 1: We're gonna lighten this thing up, have some fun here
Speaker 1: in our final segment of the break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Sam's eighteen sixty
Speaker 1: five Stetson hats are American maid with pride right here
Speaker 1: in Texas, and Stetson is proud to be on the
Speaker 1: field with America's team. Want to show your Texas and
Speaker 1: Team pride too, You can by purchasing your own Stetson.
Speaker 1: You can look just like how the flag guys do
Speaker 1: on field at every home game. Stetson heads the official
Speaker 1: crown of all self respecting Cowboys and your favorite football team.
Speaker 1: Get yours today in the Stadium Pro Shop or at
Speaker 1: Stetson dot Com. Your new apartment's big, Such a great deal.
Speaker 1: That's okay? Just okay? What's not right above the subway? Well,
Speaker 1: I bet you don't even notice it after that's my neighbor.
Speaker 1: Ange the deal. That's just okay, it's not okay. Get
Speaker 1: a great deal with America's best network. Come into an
Speaker 1: AT and T store to find out how to give
Speaker 1: one of our popular smartphones for zero dollars down. Based
Speaker 1: on GWS one s cour September twenty nineteen. Tesla is
Speaker 1: a proud sponsor of the Dallas Cowboys, helping fans see
Speaker 1: more and do more with our best vision solutions. Our
Speaker 1: lens technologies reveal a world more beautiful than you can imagine.
Speaker 1: For a limited time, get the slur next Gen offer,
Speaker 1: where you buy the latest generation of Transitions lenses would
Speaker 1: select slor lenses. You can choose a second pair of
Speaker 1: clear lenses for free with qualifying frame purchases restrictions apply.
Speaker 1: Find a participating eyecare professional by visiting slor usa dot com.
Speaker 1: See more, do more. So you're shopping, and that's when
Speaker 1: you see it. I old twenty three doctor Pepper stack
Speaker 1: from top to bottom as far as the eye can see.
Speaker 1: The phrase two going to be true comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Get there. It is a rich, delicious doctor Pepper paradise.
Speaker 1: Wait did did that can of doctor Pepper just open
Speaker 1: itself for you? They all are as if to say,
Speaker 1: so nice to treat you. And even though it feels
Speaker 1: weird to talk to we, can you pick one up
Speaker 1: and say, it's so nice to be treated doctor Pepper,
Speaker 1: so nice to treat you. Back to the break. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the final segment of the Break. We are live.
Speaker 1: We are all in different locations, but we're doing Cowboys breaks.
Speaker 1: We normally do here on every Wednesday during the offseason
Speaker 1: eleven am Central Time, So make sure you tell a
Speaker 1: friend to tune in. Hopefully we can all add some
Speaker 1: a little bit of levity to a otherwise very very
Speaker 1: serious situation. You know, Derek, I said this last week.
Speaker 1: I think we have the most appropriately titled show in
Speaker 1: all of TV, and all of radio and anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: the break, It's exactly what it is. This is exactly
Speaker 1: what people I think need. Hopefully it's what they need.
Speaker 1: And so you know, at least we can do that.
Speaker 1: I think we all need that. I can go another
Speaker 1: hour just I'm ready to I'm ready to talk more football.
Speaker 1: I think I've said it. I said it to some
Speaker 1: people I've talked to over the phone, and I've mentioned
Speaker 1: it to you guys by email when I talked to
Speaker 1: our tire group. I never realized how much I actually
Speaker 1: miss hanging out with you guys at work until it
Speaker 1: gets taken away and it really feels like a part
Speaker 1: of my life is kind of empty. So it's good
Speaker 1: to get on here for an hour with you guys
Speaker 1: and talk football. I'm enjoying, all right, Amber, you have
Speaker 1: a game for us, which you guys, all right, you
Speaker 1: guys ready, So this is this is the game. What
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We have I have a set of
Speaker 1: ten questions, some of the things we've already talked about,
Speaker 1: but that's okay, we'll still hit on them. The first question,
Speaker 1: so there are two questions. One question is going to
Speaker 1: be a personal question. You're gonna write down your answer
Speaker 1: on a piece of paper and then just show it
Speaker 1: on screen as soon as I'm done asking the second question.
Speaker 1: So when I'm done asking the second question, you show
Speaker 1: your answer on screen, and then we'll discuss that second
Speaker 1: question out loud. It'll make sense in a little bit.
Speaker 1: So let's just get started. So like a ninety eight
Speaker 1: percent chance I'm gonna screw this up, but it's fine,
Speaker 1: ready to go. It'll be fine. We won't discuss your
Speaker 1: your personal answer personal question out loud. We'll just have
Speaker 1: fans look at it on screen and that's it. Okay,
Speaker 1: just try it. Yeah, yeah, we'll have some fun here.
Speaker 1: We'll all right. First question, what you're gonna write down
Speaker 1: on a piece of paper which NFL team has gained
Speaker 1: the most in this free agency? So to you which
Speaker 1: NFL team has gained the most during this free agency? Now,
Speaker 1: the question that we're about to this cause is what
Speaker 1: would be the best acquisition that the Cowboys have made
Speaker 1: during this free agency? So you can lift up your
Speaker 1: answer the first question. Wait, so we lift up we
Speaker 1: lift up our answer for the first question. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: show it on screen, and as you show it, just
Speaker 1: live it there a few seconds, just so fans can
Speaker 1: look at it and see your answer. But then we're
Speaker 1: gonna got it. Now we're gonna talk about the best
Speaker 1: acquisition for the Cowboys during this free agency. Who would
Speaker 1: you say, is your your guy that you thought that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys definitely needed for this year? All right? You know,
Speaker 1: I think I think McCoy, Gerald McCoy, if he you know,
Speaker 1: can be the player that he's been. But I mean
Speaker 1: he continues to get sacks from that position, So I
Speaker 1: you know, losing Malie Collins and getting Gerald McCoy, I
Speaker 1: think that's one position where I think they have made
Speaker 1: an upgrade. I know Collins is younger, but I still
Speaker 1: think he's never going to be the player that Gerald
Speaker 1: McCoy was or he is. So I would say McCoy
Speaker 1: is is the best guy they've done, our best edition
Speaker 1: so far. I absolutely agree with that. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's even close right now. I think once they signed,
Speaker 1: or if they get the deal done finalized with Don
Speaker 1: Terry poev and I think he got a little more
Speaker 1: of a conversation, but I think as of now it
Speaker 1: has to be Gerald McCoy agreed unanimous. I know that's boring,
Speaker 1: but it's all good. Will. So we's going through all
Speaker 1: these questions? Can I quit? All right? Hey there you
Speaker 1: got quick though, real quick though, Can I just back up?
Speaker 1: I'm interested to know why. I know why Nick and
Speaker 1: I chose Arizona because obviously they got the best. Did
Speaker 1: you know I listened to the rules here? Did you
Speaker 1: not listen to the rules of the game? Okay, but
Speaker 1: go ahead, every sort? Why why? Why is that? No? No,
Speaker 1: I get that. I want to know what Dave said
Speaker 1: the Ravens. What what about the Ravens stands out to
Speaker 1: you most? Honestly, I just think it's incredible that they
Speaker 1: got Klais Campbell for a fifth round pick, Like that's
Speaker 1: just such an insane value. And you add a guy
Speaker 1: who's that talented to what was already a pretty good defense,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean they were the best team in
Speaker 1: the AFC last year. Um, I don't even know the
Speaker 1: rest of what they did. Uh, it might not be great,
Speaker 1: but adding a guy like that to a team that's
Speaker 1: already that talented is pretty impressive. Yeah, exciting? All right,
Speaker 1: Sorry to delil the game. No, it's all good. Personal question,
Speaker 1: your favorite player of all time? Meanwhile, what would you
Speaker 1: say any team n okay, any tea. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't just any team Calvoy is anything you want? Favorite
Speaker 1: player of all time? And then the question that we're
Speaker 1: going to discuss, what would you say is the biggest
Speaker 1: loss for the Cowboys during this free agency? Y'all are
Speaker 1: gonna hate my answer. You're gonna think I'm stupid. All right,
Speaker 1: So biggest loss loss, it's easily. How is your biggest one,
Speaker 1: Robbie Quinn, I agree, Robert Quinn. They don't have any
Speaker 1: pass rushers. I agree. I'm sorry I keep slandering Grandy Gregory,
Speaker 1: but they don't have any pass rushers. And it's who's
Speaker 1: your guy? I can't see that. Who is it? Dave?
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to see it right now? I'm sorry. Sorry.
Speaker 1: You can go back and listen to the watch the
Speaker 1: show later. You are looking at the right cameras. But
Speaker 1: it's fine, yeah, right, okay, you know, regards to the
Speaker 1: with regards to the guy that they lost. I actually
Speaker 1: think the interesting thing here is that Randall Cobb. I
Speaker 1: think you have more ability to be able to replace
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb than you do, um Robert Quinn. I think
Speaker 1: there are more options out there, especially if you look
Speaker 1: at the draft. We've talked about this over and over.
Speaker 1: There are tons of guys in the draft wide receivers
Speaker 1: that are really good players that you can get even
Speaker 1: later in the draft. And you know, my guy Duverne
Speaker 1: is still gonna be out there and available. I would
Speaker 1: assume third maybe fourth round. So I think they're good
Speaker 1: quality options, good quality options to replace Cobb. I don't
Speaker 1: know that you have those kinds of options to replace
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. That's gonna be a hard replacement. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think though, I mean, those guys it's still a committee though.
Speaker 1: I still think you know that they've done a decent job.
Speaker 1: And Tom Sewela, I think can can figure that out.
Speaker 1: Byron Jones to me, like, what are they doing at corner?
Speaker 1: That's to me, that's the problem is because the reason
Speaker 1: why Iron Jones had all these great stats, it's because
Speaker 1: everyone threw over to Cheeto all the time. So now
Speaker 1: he's your main guy, Like, that's that worries me a
Speaker 1: little bit. I think I think the biggest loss is
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. Yeah, all right, all right, personal question, favorite
Speaker 1: TV show at the moment? Now, what would you say
Speaker 1: the moment too? Is the top draft priority for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys as of right now, looking at what they currently
Speaker 1: have on their list and the current guys that they've
Speaker 1: signed so far, what would be the top draft priority.
Speaker 1: Reference made one reference. Of course, it's my favorite. Nick
Speaker 1: just said it. I think it has, at least for me.
Speaker 1: It's it's cornerback. I just don't know if the player
Speaker 1: is gonna be there that can give you the value
Speaker 1: you need where you're picking. But I think cornerback is
Speaker 1: probably your biggest, your piggot, your biggest draft need at
Speaker 1: this point, because you don't have even if you talk
Speaker 1: about by committee right now, Anthony Brown's gonna be starting
Speaker 1: for you. I would assume I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: all that excited about that, and I make my pitch,
Speaker 1: Sure pick, you better not say a wide receiver. Oh
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say wide receiver. And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: At seventeen. You can draft a cornerback. You could draft CJ. Henderson.
Speaker 1: He'll probably be like part of a committee. Like the
Speaker 1: odds that a guy that is drafting seventeenth overall is
Speaker 1: just handling his side of the field from day one,
Speaker 1: totally possible, not a slam dunk. The same thing goes
Speaker 1: for edge rusher. I'm a big fan of Calevan Jason.
Speaker 1: If he's there, you can do that. He's got sky
Speaker 1: high athleticism and potential, still probably gonna need a year
Speaker 1: of seasoning. If you draft cde Lam, he's starting right away,
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns and moving inside and outside and making the
Speaker 1: Dallas offense that much better. The chance that tribute in
Speaker 1: meaningful way right away is just a lot better than
Speaker 1: a defender. And obviously drafts are about more than just
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But that's your best bet to improve this
Speaker 1: team right away in my opinion. You know, I just
Speaker 1: think I just think that's a different answer to the question.
Speaker 1: I mean about the biggest need, because you're overlooking the need,
Speaker 1: which is fine. I mean that that's what they do.
Speaker 1: You're you're you're going with best available player, which is
Speaker 1: exactly what Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones is gonna tell us.
Speaker 1: So if that's what they do, it sounds like all
Speaker 1: those receivers are going to be there. But that's not that.
Speaker 1: The question was like the biggest need, and I think
Speaker 1: the biggest need is it still corner another But that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you reached for it if it's not there.
Speaker 1: So Dave defense wins games. We hear this over and
Speaker 1: over and championship? Who just won the Super Bowl? All right?
Speaker 1: Moving up to the next questions. Moving up to the
Speaker 1: next question. Do you have toilet paper? Write it down
Speaker 1: on your sheet of paper? Oh, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to divulge if you don't like all right? What? Um?
Speaker 1: We kind of talked about this already, got it right there.
Speaker 1: I was gonna use it as a prop. Actually it's
Speaker 1: for my phone here, but toilet paper for like a weekend. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's been a running joke between me and Dave. Anything
Speaker 1: was going on, I was, I was at the store looking,
Speaker 1: but I got it. I found it. Um, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: What was the question? What position should be addressed before
Speaker 1: the draft? We kind of mentioned this a little bit,
Speaker 1: but what would you say is a position that definitely
Speaker 1: needs to be addressed before the draft? Of everything I'm
Speaker 1: seeing out there, I think they could address defensive end.
Speaker 1: It's just a question of whether they want to. I mean,
Speaker 1: we talked about some of the names that are out there,
Speaker 1: was some Griffin and jadeveon Clowney and you know, and
Speaker 1: even if they want to go the route of bringing
Speaker 1: back on Michael Bennett if he's not going to retire.
Speaker 1: I think there are options out there at defensive end.
Speaker 1: I don't know if those numbers work for them or not,
Speaker 1: but I do think there are some options there, and
Speaker 1: there are options that I think a step in day
Speaker 1: one and be starters and give you good production. I
Speaker 1: probably would say corner. I mean, I think you could
Speaker 1: if there's another one corner out there. I don't know
Speaker 1: Zaer RhoD still out there. Oh yeah, but I don't
Speaker 1: want him. I believe he is, Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm sold on that. He did not
Speaker 1: play well last year at all at all? The thing
Speaker 1: for me, right, all right, I agree with everything y'all
Speaker 1: just said. But I mean, they've signed two cornerbacks, not
Speaker 1: actually three if you count C. J. Goodwin. Not trying
Speaker 1: to convince anybody that they're the legion of boom, but
Speaker 1: they have bodies, which that's what they do, right like
Speaker 1: they fill the position so that they can draft purely.
Speaker 1: They haven't really done that at wide receiver, which I
Speaker 1: can talk all I want about ceedee Lamb. I don't
Speaker 1: really expect that to happen, but right now they don't
Speaker 1: have like a proven veteran slot like I know, Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson is still kicking around, Devin Smith is kicking around. Like.
Speaker 1: There's guys on the roster, but you would expect them, yeah, John,
Speaker 1: I mean there's guys, but not guys that have done it,
Speaker 1: which is what you would expect. The thing is is
Speaker 1: there's just there are not very many like capable receivers
Speaker 1: left on the market. It is pretty barren. So I've
Speaker 1: got an eye on that. I'm curious to see what
Speaker 1: they do. All right. Personal question, what do you miss
Speaker 1: the most as of right now? Since we're in lockdown,
Speaker 1: and the question would be, we know the linebacker group,
Speaker 1: what that's like as of now? You know, they're pretty
Speaker 1: much similar to last year, and last year they did
Speaker 1: it necessarily perform how we expected them too. What are
Speaker 1: your expectations now for this twenty twenty with the linebacker group?
Speaker 1: I think I think the linebackers, I mean that's the
Speaker 1: one position where there's not a lot of change at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, like they I'm kind of surprised they brought
Speaker 1: everybody back um topped about it. I mean, does anybody
Speaker 1: else think that it's kind of weird that the one
Speaker 1: position that was really bad last year. I mean the
Speaker 1: one area was special teams, and they everybody's pretty much back.
Speaker 1: The core players of the linebackers were back. See J
Speaker 1: Goodwin was back. I mean, I guess not the punt returners,
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean deep snapper he wasn't the problem.
Speaker 1: He's back, and kickers back, and the punter looks like
Speaker 1: he's just seems kind of weird. But like that's not
Speaker 1: answering your question. But I just think all the linebackers
Speaker 1: that they brought back, I mean, is everyone. If everyone's healthy,
Speaker 1: then there's not gonna be a lot of change there.
Speaker 1: I think it's a sneaky need though. I think it's
Speaker 1: an underrated need that the Cowboys need to address in
Speaker 1: the draft. Is getting a linebacker in the third or
Speaker 1: fourth round. Can I ask you a question, Yeah, how many?
Speaker 1: How many of those guys? Because I've heard this floated
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I don't know how I feel about it.
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys signed don Terry Poem and they, in
Speaker 1: fact they brought back all these linebackers, does it at
Speaker 1: all signal to you that there is a possibility that
Speaker 1: they'll be playing more three four than four three next
Speaker 1: year is now not to me, Yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: signals that they're tired of their linebackers getting getting hit
Speaker 1: by guards and centers, and they're trying to play it
Speaker 1: a different way. I think signing Poe and McCoy to me,
Speaker 1: suggests that they're they're gonna they're gonna go with the
Speaker 1: four man front. And you know, McCarthy has said as much.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of said that it will be
Speaker 1: a four man front. So, um, I guess those two
Speaker 1: guys could rotate as the one in a three four.
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna play together. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a four three. I just think you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a bigger, bigger line. Well, I do think if
Speaker 1: they if they were to go to three four, I
Speaker 1: think McCoy would be a defensive end. He seems to
Speaker 1: have that typical three four defensive end build. But again,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's necessarily the way it goes.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering aloud. You know, I've heard people kind
Speaker 1: of speculating there, and I do wonder if if maybe
Speaker 1: there's a shade of that involved. We obviously wouldn't know
Speaker 1: that until we get to training camp, we start seeing
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I think you can go get an
Speaker 1: idea if you turn on the tape of Carolina, Like
Speaker 1: they they were multiple. They did a lot of both
Speaker 1: Poe and McCoy. Poe played the vast majority of his
Speaker 1: snaps as a one technique in a four three front,
Speaker 1: but they did place in three four where McCoy wasn't
Speaker 1: end and Poe played nose tackle, and they kicked their
Speaker 1: linebackers out wide. Like I think you'll see a little
Speaker 1: bit of that. I think you can get multiple. You
Speaker 1: can use Jalen Smith as a rush linebacker, but I
Speaker 1: think they'll be a four or three front the vast
Speaker 1: majority of the time. I think Nick's right. I think
Speaker 1: you look at the tape and you're like, man, how
Speaker 1: can we get more out of Jayalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh. Well,
Speaker 1: if we get these offensive linemen off their ass by
Speaker 1: beefing up the front the defensive front, they'll probably be better.
Speaker 1: Which my expectations are that they are great because Layton
Speaker 1: Vanderesh was great when he was healthy as a rookie,
Speaker 1: Jaalen Smith should be much better again. And if he's
Speaker 1: got that ability to move in space and make plays.
Speaker 1: Just looking at it on paper, they're still one of
Speaker 1: the most talented units on the team. Mike Nolan is
Speaker 1: a defensive specialist. He coached linebackers for the Saints for
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Damario O'Davis was amazing for
Speaker 1: them while Nolan was there. So my expectation is that
Speaker 1: they're going to be really good. I mean, it's to
Speaker 1: live up to it, but that's what I expect. That's
Speaker 1: really an interesting point, David. I actually that's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I hope the Cowboys can go out
Speaker 1: either in free agency and get a veteran pass rusher
Speaker 1: like Griffin or get if he's available to him. Jay
Speaker 1: saw it in the draft, because I think if they
Speaker 1: can get that final piece, that other defensive end that
Speaker 1: they're now adding the tank, and now they're adding to
Speaker 1: these huge bodies there in the middle that they'll have
Speaker 1: where these linebackers can really run. I think it actually
Speaker 1: makes the secondary a ton better because you'll actually may
Speaker 1: be able to get some pass rush, you may be
Speaker 1: able to do some things. You can make teams one dimensional,
Speaker 1: whereas right now last year they were not stopping to
Speaker 1: run consistently enough to be able to force teams to
Speaker 1: have to throw the ball. And so I think if
Speaker 1: you can do those things, if you can really solidify
Speaker 1: that line up front, I think it makes your whole
Speaker 1: defense a ton better. And that's where they get better.
Speaker 1: It may not be in actually adding more talent necessarily
Speaker 1: to the secondary right now, as much as it is
Speaker 1: beefing up that front. Well, we've kind of out of
Speaker 1: time already. I don't know if you want to keep,
Speaker 1: but like one last question or just call it quits.
Speaker 1: If you got another question, let's roll with it, all right?
Speaker 1: Personal question? What is your favorite road game? Um? And
Speaker 1: then so you said road game? Where are we talking
Speaker 1: here in general? Where are you like traveling to the
Speaker 1: most when we get back on Yeah, got it already, already,
Speaker 1: have one done, all right, we'll show it to the
Speaker 1: camera then, and then for the question. Um, some of
Speaker 1: these things we've already talked about. But let's just go
Speaker 1: ahead and do you want a Dak question or an
Speaker 1: offensive line question? Let's go back. We haven't talked Dack today,
Speaker 1: all right? Well, well it's very simple. What's up with
Speaker 1: that's what is going on with this Dak situation? What
Speaker 1: is up with Derek Prescott. We know that. Yeah, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: they're You're right. So is there a timeline and expectations
Speaker 1: when when we should be kind of hoping or expecting
Speaker 1: this whole deal to be done. The actually talked about
Speaker 1: this well, we talked about it last week and it's
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting because the leverage in this
Speaker 1: whole situation is out the window, like kind of similar
Speaker 1: to Tank last year. You know, Tank's deal got done
Speaker 1: in April instead of July because he had a surgery
Speaker 1: and they wanted to make sure he was as right
Speaker 1: as he could possibly be, and it spurred them to
Speaker 1: action earlier than they needed to. Dak's leverage is not
Speaker 1: showing up for the offseason program, so that starts April six,
Speaker 1: if Dak is serious about not being in the building
Speaker 1: until then, if Weaving have an offseason program. No, that's
Speaker 1: the point I'm getting to is it's out. It's gone there,
Speaker 1: That leverage is gone. Yeah, because right now players can't
Speaker 1: come in the building anyway. We don't know when OTAs
Speaker 1: are going to start. We don't know what the deal
Speaker 1: is with captain's workouts mini camp right now. Who knows,
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully, but who knows if training camp is
Speaker 1: even going to start at the regularly scheduled times, So
Speaker 1: it's hard to get a grass because you know, before
Speaker 1: all this happened, before we all had to go home,
Speaker 1: I would have said, you know, this will be done
Speaker 1: by mid April, because they're not going to mess around
Speaker 1: with their franchise quarterback not being in the building for
Speaker 1: the start of a new regime's offseason program. That would
Speaker 1: be silly. But if nobody can go into the building anyway,
Speaker 1: who the hell knows. So your guest is as good
Speaker 1: as mine right now. So here's the question then that
Speaker 1: if there is no offseason program or modified offseason program,
Speaker 1: then training camp becomes even more important. Do you think
Speaker 1: that would be willing to do what Zeke did and
Speaker 1: sit out training camp because that would be a huge deal,
Speaker 1: which act and I gotta I gotta give him credit.
Speaker 1: Jesse Holley made a great point last week that the
Speaker 1: lack of knowledge about when this is all going to
Speaker 1: start should give the Cowboys, it should spur them to
Speaker 1: even more action, because when that switch gets flipped and
Speaker 1: everybody can go back to work, you're gonna want your
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback to be part of that Um, I think
Speaker 1: I've said, but I would have I would have to
Speaker 1: see Dak actually hold out to believe that he would
Speaker 1: do it, But I can't rule it out. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't see that happening with Dak. I gotta remember he
Speaker 1: might not love playing on the franchise tag, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, if he does play this
Speaker 1: year on the franchise tag, he's got something to prove
Speaker 1: as well, because this is a contract year. So you know,
Speaker 1: and and Derek, you say it more than anybody, especially
Speaker 1: about you know, running backs, but I'm sure it's the
Speaker 1: same with quarterbacks. Not being there for training camp is
Speaker 1: not going to help you be the player that you
Speaker 1: want to be in a contract year, in a major
Speaker 1: contract here, So he's got that's a risky thing. It's
Speaker 1: not just holding out and saying, oh, good luck with
Speaker 1: Cooper Russ, because it won't be Cooper Rush. It would
Speaker 1: be somebody else that they bring in. Jamis all right, Well,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you setting up the game Amber. That was
Speaker 1: really entertaining, really fun. We'll do that again next week,
Speaker 1: but that's the end of our time. We appreciate all
Speaker 1: you guys took some time to day to jump on
Speaker 1: with us, talk a little bit of Cowboys football. We'll
Speaker 1: be back next week on Wednesday, probably still in the
Speaker 1: same format. I think we're gonna be doing this for
Speaker 1: a bit, but we'll see, we'll see. We all play
Speaker 1: it by ear. We hope you guys stay safe till then.
Speaker 1: For Nick even, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. I am
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.