WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Four Corners

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Mark twenty fifth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode

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<v Speaker 1>number two. Welcome to a different edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 1>We are live, but in all different locations. Everybody's at

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<v Speaker 1>their own homes, social distancing, and but we got an

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<v Speaker 1>hour of cow Boys talk here for you guys, live

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<v Speaker 1>on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I got my crew, Nick, Dave, Amber,

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<v Speaker 1>good to have you guys back with me so we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk a little Cowboys football. Everybody's doing today, It's

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<v Speaker 1>about time. It is about time. I mean, da Nick Good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where y'all were, but yeah, let's party.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to be like in The Brady Bunch,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I love that show, and Derek you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about. Dave probably don't, Amber, maybe not,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know the Brady Bunch, y'all think I'm like eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to God, you keep getting we don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>aige you you just stay at eighteen forever, right, yeah, exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we got a lot to talk about today.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's been obviously a lot of news around

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. Uh now the free agency has begun. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been signing players, they've been losing players. Um, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>start the conversation right there just looking at it holistically.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at all the players that they've lost

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<v Speaker 1>and they signed, I'll run down a quick lists for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys here of the guys of the players at

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have lost. And then I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>the simple question if you think the Cowboys are better

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<v Speaker 1>or worse now than they were when the season ended

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<v Speaker 1>or at the end of last season. So they've lost

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<v Speaker 1>Randall Cobb, Cam Fleming, Xavier Sphilo, Travis Frederick, Robert Quinn,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Collins, Byron Jones, Jeff Heath, and Jason Witten. They

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<v Speaker 1>have added Gerald McCoy, Haha, Clinton Dix and Blake Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a tight end that they're they're adding today.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's final yet, but that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>being discussed at this point other names of guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are that are actually having conversations with the Cowboys, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Cowboys sound some of their owns, guys like Sean Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>Kai for Bath, Amari Cooper, Joe Looney. So where do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys think they are right now in free agency?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they better or worse than they were at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the season. I'll start, I'll say worse. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they could not be how they

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<v Speaker 1>can't be worse than what they were last year, just

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<v Speaker 1>because of the of the guys that they've lost, the

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<v Speaker 1>big names they lost to Robert Quinn and Byron Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>and they haven't resigned anybody remotely close to replacing those

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<v Speaker 1>two guys. So right now you have a need at

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<v Speaker 1>pass rusher and you have a need at corner. I

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<v Speaker 1>think safety, you could say, was a wash. So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let the other guys talk about about the other positions,

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, those two right there, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>going into a draft with a big need now at

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<v Speaker 1>corner and pass rushers. So I think that they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>worse than what they were. Yeah, like Nick said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you can even question it to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I mean, yeah, Anthony Brown is back, so

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay, the Cowboys have three serviceable corners, but

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't replace an all Pro cornerback. As of right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a viable replacement for an eleven sack player.

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<v Speaker 1>And Robert Quinn I know, you know, Tyrone Crawford's still

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<v Speaker 1>kicking around coming off of hip surgery, didn't play most

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<v Speaker 1>of last season. That's terrifying, you know, the offense not

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<v Speaker 1>so much, but as of right now, it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like they have a viable way to replace Randall Cobb

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<v Speaker 1>other than the draft. I saw, you know, Philip door

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<v Speaker 1>Set signed with Seattle yesterday. So your list of like

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<v Speaker 1>experienced slot receivers who can step in and do it

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<v Speaker 1>that are available in free agency is not long at all,

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<v Speaker 1>which probably prompts you to have to do something in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. It just seems like there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work they have to do to cover

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<v Speaker 1>themselves for the draft, and like, honestly, not that many

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<v Speaker 1>good players left to do it with, you know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying my best to stay calm because as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as free agency starts every year, I feel that

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are just kind of laying low, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you see other teams signing people, and then you're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck are the Cowboys doing? Why are they

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<v Speaker 1>not signing anybody? And then eventually they start signing some guys.

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<v Speaker 1>My biggest worry is I don't want them to completely

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<v Speaker 1>rely on the draft, to have to rely on that, because,

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<v Speaker 1>like Dave said, like you need the experience. I am

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<v Speaker 1>tired of sitting around waiting every year. Oh yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are gonna grow into this kind of player

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. And I always say this over and

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<v Speaker 1>over on this show. I'm like, I'm tired of the future,

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to now. I want to see guys

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<v Speaker 1>coming in with experience and being able to perform this year. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as of right now, even though that's my feeling and

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel, I'm still trying to be patient and

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<v Speaker 1>give this new coaching staff the benefit of the doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Let Steven Jones and Will McClay kind of work things

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<v Speaker 1>down and see how they finally put this team together

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole. But as of now, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they're better than they were. So let's look at some

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<v Speaker 1>of those individual guys. They lost Randall Cobb, who is

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<v Speaker 1>there their slot receiver. Um, they've lost Travis Frederick now

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<v Speaker 1>to retirement, big, big, big loss. We'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>a little more in depth. They lost Robert Quinn defensive

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<v Speaker 1>end pass rusher, and they lost Byron Jones a cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think the biggest hole is at

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<v Speaker 1>this point for them based on the guys that they've lost. Oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there we go. See I think it's I just like

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<v Speaker 1>I said a minute ago, at the very least Anthony Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis and Cheeto can can do it. And they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not Byron Jones by any stretch. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, like who is playing right in for

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<v Speaker 1>this team right now? And that they'll probably add some

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<v Speaker 1>more guys than the draft is also there, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel great about Tyrone Crawford given what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with his injury history. And then you have Jalen Jelks

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe Jackson. I just who is going to line

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<v Speaker 1>up at that position in Week one? I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not counting on Randy Gregory. I mean it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't make a laugh at that, but honestly, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>the new CBA lets him come back. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>word on the street is that he's applying for reinstatement,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the world of Randy. I really hope

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<v Speaker 1>that for him. But number one, I can't count on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Number Two, I feel like people think that he got

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<v Speaker 1>suspended with like fifty career sacks to his name. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got seven. He has seven career sacks. So as good

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<v Speaker 1>as that would be, I hardly think it just completely

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<v Speaker 1>solves the problem. Right, He is a He is a

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<v Speaker 1>piece in a puzzle that will need other pieces in

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<v Speaker 1>order for it to be successful. I think a defensive

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<v Speaker 1>end agreed. Now, what's the deal with Antoine Woods right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Good question. They he he's a exclusive rights free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>They could have tendered him by now and they haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a little bit interesting to me because I've

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<v Speaker 1>been wondering, like, what's going on with him and why

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<v Speaker 1>are they waiting on doing anything? Because when you see

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of guys within the defensive line, that is

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<v Speaker 1>one guy at least that you would assume or expect

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys to bring back. Well, but I guess right

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<v Speaker 1>now we'll go ahead, Dave, No, go ahead. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just gonna say, I wonder how much the speculation

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<v Speaker 1>around don Terry Poe fits into that. If they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at other guys out there, maybe they feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>can upgrade that position. I know, I don't think there

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<v Speaker 1>was much legs this, but you do have guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Damien Damon Harrison, Snacks Harrison that are out there, So

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<v Speaker 1>there may be other guys that they look at in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency and they're looking at and saying, maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>can upgrade the position. If we don't, then maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>go back to an Antoine Woods. Yeah. Well Antone Woods

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<v Speaker 1>is to me, sorry, Dave, but Antoine's a guy that,

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<v Speaker 1>like as big as he looked walking around and in

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<v Speaker 1>uniform and all that we're in that ninety nine, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look real small when you put them next to

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<v Speaker 1>Dontari Poe. And I think it's I think it's important,

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<v Speaker 1>and who wouldn't, but I think it's important that to

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<v Speaker 1>know that the Cowboys are definitely trying to change that

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<v Speaker 1>look of what their defensive tackles look like. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think now Crawford is definitely a defensive end. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where Tristan Hill. I mean, he's under contract

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<v Speaker 1>for three years, so you know he's gonna be here,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if he's the perfect fit for

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<v Speaker 1>what they're looking for for that type of position now

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<v Speaker 1>very I had completely forgotten about him. Sorry. Sorry, It's

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<v Speaker 1>very fitting timing because words you know, they've been linked

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<v Speaker 1>to Dontarri Poe for four or five days and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like that's being finalized right now per Twitter, which yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Nick's absolutely right there obviously, between Gerald McCoy

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<v Speaker 1>Dontari Poe. I just think they're looking at a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>mold of defensive tackle than Antoine Woods. And maybe, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if if things don't work out in free agency the

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<v Speaker 1>way they want them to, it would be very easy

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<v Speaker 1>to bring him back. All they have to do is

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<v Speaker 1>tender him. So I wouldn't rule it out completely, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think they want to get larger at that position

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<v Speaker 1>based on what they're doing so far. Just so people

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<v Speaker 1>know the actual measurements. Antoine Wood six foot even three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds. Don Terry Post six ft three forty six pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's almost fifty pounds heavier, three inches taller. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a big, massive, guy, Nick, you've always said, give

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<v Speaker 1>me that big sloppy guy. I could put the one technique.

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<v Speaker 1>This may be your big sloppy guy. You put it

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<v Speaker 1>the one technique that's hard to move, and it maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little harder to move than than even in Antoine Wood,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a big guy. But this guy's even bigger, bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, I mean, you know, if you have issues

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<v Speaker 1>in the red zone, he has thrown a touchdown pass.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the only player in the NFL history, the only

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle to ever throw a touchdown pass. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen it, google it. It's pretty awesome. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, if they can't get the deal worked out

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<v Speaker 1>with Dak and Dak decided to hold out, we should

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<v Speaker 1>be okay. Yeah, but you know what, relax, let's forget

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<v Speaker 1>forget that though. Hey, guys, forget the part about don

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Poe because they got the Belldozer And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you remember that, but I mean, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Derek does. He played at Oklahoma what ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and bring that up. Well, I mean, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>Belldoz or you probably don't even know his name, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the Belldozer you're right, Jim Tibo. He

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<v Speaker 1>was Tibo before tibodn't now and Tebow was first. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, yeah, I don't know the timing on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Another time on that. All right, let's let's let's move

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and I want to talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other free agency that are out there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna throw some names of you guys, and i want

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<v Speaker 1>you to tell me if any of these names strike

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<v Speaker 1>you as as players that you would like the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Not again, we're not saying the Cowboys are talking to them,

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<v Speaker 1>but players that you would like the Cowboys maybe to

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<v Speaker 1>consider based upon where they are right now in free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Bennett, Tavon Austin. Those are two names of guys

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<v Speaker 1>that were here last year. There are still free agents.

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin, the defensive end from Minnesota. We talk by

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<v Speaker 1>Damon Harrison. I mentioned him just a few minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Defensive tackle Ted Ginn Juniors out there. If you need

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that can return punts and kicks and give

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit of something speed receiver, Jadeveon Clowney.

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<v Speaker 1>Defensive end, you got Delaney Walker, which is an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>name at tight end now obviously Blake Bell being signed today,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's not a guy that even factors in. But

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<v Speaker 1>a name I throw on the list. And then at quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting name, Matt Moore, guy used to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a free agent. If you're looking for a backup quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a guy has a little more experience, maybe he fits.

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<v Speaker 1>Any of those names strike you as guys you would

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<v Speaker 1>like the Cowboys to show some interesting Yeah, bring on

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<v Speaker 1>Clowney clowning. I mean, let's say yeah, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if realism not my salary capture, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no no. Realism is a part of this, so

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to think of it realistically. But but

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<v Speaker 1>just names you say, hey, you know that guy may

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<v Speaker 1>actually fit, I will say it is. So the league

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<v Speaker 1>year opened officially a week ago today, and stuff's been

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<v Speaker 1>going on for two days before that. So it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a week and a half really since teams started negotiating,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jedevian Clowney remains unsigned, which clearly means that what's

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<v Speaker 1>his volume run? Now, Well, that's that's the great question.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's very obvious Clowney wanted DeMarcus Lawrence money like

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted twenty plus million dollars a year. He wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be the next bank breaking pass rusher. Teams don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to pay him that because he's got a long

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<v Speaker 1>injury history and he only had three sacks last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's highly unlikely that the Cowboys would

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<v Speaker 1>get involved in that sweepstakes. But the longer he goes unsigned,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume the lower his price would be. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't expect him to wind up here. But it

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<v Speaker 1>does make me curious that he's been a free agent

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<v Speaker 1>for a week and a half. You know what worries

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<v Speaker 1>me about a guy like Jadeveon Clowney is it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me when you see a pass rusher that has

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<v Speaker 1>now had two different teams say we're okay. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when Houston, oh we'll get we'll just get rid of him.

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<v Speaker 1>We're good, we're fine, And now when you have Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>after having him there for a year, say now we're good.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it just makes me a little bit cautious. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the one that buys into the whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>of there's a reason they're they're a free agent, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are lots of reason a player can

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<v Speaker 1>be a free agent. But I do think that at

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<v Speaker 1>specific positions that are sometimes hard to feel, like finding

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<v Speaker 1>a good pass rusher, the fact that two teams have

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<v Speaker 1>said we're fine does make me a little bit worried either.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys think that when you when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>a player like Jadevian Clowney, Well, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you have a good point, but there are exceptions to

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<v Speaker 1>the rule. And you know, I think Robert Quinn's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be going on his fourth team in five years, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Bears, obviously we're excited about that, so um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and Randall Cobb, now this is three this

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<v Speaker 1>will be three straight years for him, So I that's

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<v Speaker 1>just the nature of it. I mean, but you're right

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<v Speaker 1>for that money, I can I can see your point

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<v Speaker 1>for sure on Clowney, but I you know, I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it like the book in when he was there

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<v Speaker 1>with with J. J. Watt, and I think he could

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<v Speaker 1>be there with the DeMarcus Lawrence. I mean, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be awesome. But I'm telling you that their salary cap

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<v Speaker 1>is didn't the cap didn't go up as much as

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted it to. So they've got more cat Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>have more cat problems than you might think. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think a contract like that makes sense for them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to be they would be in cap hell

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<v Speaker 1>if if they did a deal like that, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just think at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Clowney and Griffin are going to cost more than they're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to pay. I think they could probably make it

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<v Speaker 1>work if they really wanted to. I don't necessarily advise

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<v Speaker 1>that they do. That is the thing that scares me

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<v Speaker 1>about Clowney is just price versu availability. Like he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>had a you know, he's played thirteen or more games

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<v Speaker 1>every year but one in his career, but like by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of last season with Seattle, he had about

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<v Speaker 1>six different problems limiting him. And I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>been a theme for his career, not necessarily missing games,

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<v Speaker 1>but just being hindered. And for the price, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it's one hundred percent worth it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love and the Cowboys on tend to give

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<v Speaker 1>big money to free agents that are not at home,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but not their own free agents. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>point we've been making for weeks though, is that they

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<v Speaker 1>need to spend a little bit more money if they

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<v Speaker 1>expect to improve the team, Like I think, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know Don Arrepoe great addition, Gerald McCoy a great addition.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad they brought Anthony brownback. I'm intrigued by haha, Clinton Dix.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, the defense does not look better on paper

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<v Speaker 1>than it was last year. It just doesn't. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know about Evston Griffin because that that's the

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<v Speaker 1>one that that's a little bit perplexing to me because

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a really good defensive end. I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of surprised he's still out on the free agent market.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there something I'm missing about what he is? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there an injury history? Is there's something about him that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe could point to a reason why he still hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been signed by someone At this point, I can't tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know that Mike McCarthy should should know

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about him, you know, playing against the

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings for so long, so I you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would seem like a pretty good good

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<v Speaker 1>fit just to you know, another one of those bridge players.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you got to remember that what the

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<v Speaker 1>what they view these players for, they're not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>to break the bank, and I think, you know, guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Griffin, maybe Clowney, you know, they look at it

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<v Speaker 1>like this is one more big opportunity to make, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, and so you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>people just have different agendas right now for what these

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<v Speaker 1>roles would be. Yeah, I think. I mean when a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like kind of like Clowney, I think it's price

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<v Speaker 1>verse market. He's thirty two years old, honestly, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>barely missed any playing time, Like he's very reliable, but

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two year old coming off an eight sacks season,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably has a different idea of what he's worth

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<v Speaker 1>than the teams that are pursuing him. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, I still think he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>worth more than what the Cowboys want to pay. But

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<v Speaker 1>every day that a guy like that goes unsigned, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's better for teams that don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend a bit more money because eventually your christ has

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<v Speaker 1>to go down. Right. That brings up another name, Michael Bennett.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you guys feel about that? As long as

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<v Speaker 1>he sits out on the market, Let's assume it gets

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<v Speaker 1>to a point where he's willing to take a one

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<v Speaker 1>year deal again, I think the Cowboys should go after

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like like Bennett. Isn't he retiring? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't said that, but honestly, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>last year that it was headed to like he was

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<v Speaker 1>headed to retirement. I don't know what I thought. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he said he was not. I thought I'd read

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere that he was planning to play this year. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm thinking about someone else. I saw a tight

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<v Speaker 1>end retire and go to money Night Football. I'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back and play. And now he's going to the you know, Wraiters.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, what, you know, what if Michael Bennett,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Michael Bennett. I think the Cowboys are going

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<v Speaker 1>to have some interesting players on the defensive And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say I'm gonna just gonna say that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have some interesting players and stories at the defensive end position.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it'll be Michael Bennett. So Randy Gregory obviously, well, yeah, Ran,

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<v Speaker 1>if Michael Bennet wanted to sign back for a one

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<v Speaker 1>year deal, I'd love to have him. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I there was speculation he was retiring. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the new coaching staff thinks about its skill set.

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<v Speaker 1>But so he did enough for you to want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring him back. Absolutely, Yeah, he can play. He can

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<v Speaker 1>still play, I think, so I'll take the off sides,

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<v Speaker 1>flags and everything. Bring it on, yep. And he has

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<v Speaker 1>that attitude. He has the attitude that you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking about the defense sometimes needing that little fire.

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<v Speaker 1>He has that kind of firing. He he doesn't. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just focused on what he needs to do and goals

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<v Speaker 1>for it. So we're gonna take our We're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>our first break, and when we come back, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to take a little time to dive into the most

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<v Speaker 1>recent signing. I guess the most recent signing before today,

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<v Speaker 1>which was Haha, Clinton Dix. Get your opinions and what

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<v Speaker 1>you think he brings this team and how he rates

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<v Speaker 1>guess I want to start this next segment talking a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about ha Ha Clinton Dix. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>safety the Cowboys signed. I think it was maybe late

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<v Speaker 1>last week, but Thursday night good and so I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get your opinions on what you think of the

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<v Speaker 1>signing just overall him as a player, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think he brings to the Cowboys. Let's start with you, Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think that he's just a veteran guy

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<v Speaker 1>that has pretty good range. It sounds like, again he

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<v Speaker 1>goes into your category of some players that have been

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<v Speaker 1>in different teams and good enough to sign, not good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to keep, and so you know that's those guys

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<v Speaker 1>are always interesting, but you know, usually when you surround

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<v Speaker 1>them around guys with really good cornerbacks, you feel better

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<v Speaker 1>about it. That's why, you know, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit I'm a little uneasy about all that because

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know if he's the exact answer there,

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<v Speaker 1>just because you know, just because he's got a catchy

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<v Speaker 1>name and he's a first round pick and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>history with McCarthy, that doesn't always mean that it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to work out. So I'm a little bit hesitant about

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<v Speaker 1>saying that this is going to be a good move. Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, Yeah, I mean I agree. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a former first round pick, he's been to a

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl. I don't think he's going to conjure up

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 1>image is of like Earl Thomas, you know, like, this

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>isn't that type of signing. He's got flaws in his game.

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.400
<v Speaker 1>He's not the best tackler, he's not amazing and run support.

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.959
<v Speaker 1>He can get reckless in coverage, like he'll give up

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>some plays. At the same time, the thing that makes

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you a first round pick most of the time at

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:18.959
<v Speaker 1>safety is when you have ball skills and the ability

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to make plays on the ball. So my hope is

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 1>if he can contribute a handful of takeaways. That's a

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>handful more than the Cowboys safeties have provided in recent seasons.

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I think he had two picks for the Bears last year,

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>which you know, preferably be a little bit more, but

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that's still better than what you've gotten from the safety

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>position in recent years. So, like I said, yeah, I

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think this is a home run signing, but if

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>he can use those ball skills to add to your

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>takeaway tally, hopefully it'll work out pretty well. You know.

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I've been paying attention to

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>this for this upcoming year is a tackling, which is

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>obviously one of the things that the Cowboys struggle with.

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Last year as a defense And you know, when I

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>when I started looking in day will know and I

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>start looking at all these players prospect from the draft,

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 1>most of them all have like tackling issues, Like I

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the deal is with the whole tackling.

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So for me, at least, this is a guy that

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 1>has experienced on the field. And I keep saying it,

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I want someone with experience. I don't want a rookie

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.679
<v Speaker 1>or depend on a rookie to start off the season.

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I want someone that's capable of going in there and

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and he has you know, he has the um what

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>do you call it, like the fitness level. He's not

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 1>what's the word I'm looking for. Athleticism is what I'm

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>looking for. It's a big word, right, There's very about that. Yeah,

0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>So he has a good aspect that he brings, but

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the whole tackling thing that concerns me not a whole lot,

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>but it's still something that I'm definitely keeping in my

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>eyes on. Yeah, for those of you out there listening

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and watching, if you haven't had a chance to check

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>out Dallas scoutboys dot com, yesterday we put up a

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>scoutter report from our own Bucky Brooks, who is now

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>starting to do some a little work with our team.

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>He'll be doing some scouter reports for a lot of

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>players over this next field the next few months. But

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>just go check out that scoutter report and one of

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the things that just kind of jumped off the page

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 1>when I read it was he called him the perfect

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>bridge player. And that's exactly how I thought of this

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>signing is this is a guy that is going to

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 1>give you time. He's buying you time for you to

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>develop someone else. So likelihood that he's going to be

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>sitting in that spot a couple of years from now

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.439
<v Speaker 1>is probably pretty small. Question is who's going to be

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 1>in that spot? Who are they gonna draft this year?

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Who might they I don't think it's probably going to

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>be a free agent signing at this point, but I

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.160
<v Speaker 1>think you have to look at who are they got

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>a draft they can bring in and start getting them

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>reps this year so that next year or the year

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>after that person is your league gout? You know the

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>thing about and we've said this several times. We've heard

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the term bridge player a lot, But the question I

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>have is are the Cowboys going to cross it? You

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>can build a bridge all you want to, but do

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>they want to get to the other side because they

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>can't develop They're not going to develop a fifth round

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>safety or sixth round safety. They try with Xavier Woods,

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know that's cute and all, but I mean,

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>if at some point you're gonna have to to make that,

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, that move and actually draft a really high

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>caliber safety and so hopefully you know we can that

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 1>could be this year. But I mean, then again, we

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.479
<v Speaker 1>just we just mentioned defensive end, cornerback, and now center

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 1>are our positions that you're going into the draft, slot receiver.

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if safety is gonna gonna be

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the case this year. It may be best available. I've

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>been I've been hurt before. Like ideally, I would love

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to say this is perfect. You got Haha, you got Woods,

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>draft the safety in the top, you know, one hundred

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>picks first three rounds and that's your guy for the

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>future and Haha is a perfect bridge. But I gotta

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>see it to believe that they're going to do it.

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, Nick just laid it out perfectly. Like right now,

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 1>it's still time and free agency. But like you all right,

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory, I'm rooting for you, man, but you probably

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>need to draft a defensive end, cornerback, don't feel great

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>about it, don't have a slot receiver, and then there's

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the safety issues. So even with all you know, I

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>think Poe would be their fifth or sixth signing from

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>outside and they still have work to do. All right, Nick,

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the center position. I want to dive into

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>now the conversation around Travis Frederick who announced I think

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it was yesterday that he is retiring from the NFL.

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Interesting statement that he made talking about his struggles coming

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>back and he just didn't feel like he could be

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the player that he was accustomed to being. How surprised

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>were you guys, and how surprised do you think the

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys were at this retirement. I'm not gonna say I was.

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm shocked. I mean a little bit surprised, but I

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>mean somebody in our office actually said like two or

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>three years ago that he wasn't gonna play very long.

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>And this was before all of that happened. So that's

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>been on the report of syndrome. Oh yeah, like three

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.479
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Was like, well what if he doesn't? You know,

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember exactly how it went. Down, but it

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>was put on the radar that he's not long for this,

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and I you know, yeah, and I've mentioned this a

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit and then coming back, he didn't, you know,

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have a great year Pro Bowl. That's that's nice,

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I don't think a lot of people

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of centers in the league, and so

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, Frederick, Pro Bowl. Sure, but he didn't

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>have a Pro Bowl year and he admitted it and

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>he knows it, and I think he just SE's just

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>saying his future and his family are more important than

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>football right now. On top of that. And yeah, I

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>mean that's one of those things you know, you have

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>that benefit working in the building that I've heard it

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>mentioned or rumored at least a handful of times over

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the last two or three years that retirement could be

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>something to watch out for Travis Frederick. It's not the

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>type of thing that you want to throw out there

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>recklessly because it's a guy's career. But I wasn't that

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>caught off guard. I if anything, I was. I thought,

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the guy makes thirteen million dollars a year, Like that's

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>hard money to walk away from. But I think Travis

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Frederick played at such a high level for such a

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>long time that he wasn't going to be satisfied playing

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>at a lesser level. So it made it made sense,

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you know. I guess the timing kind of caught me

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>off guard, but like when you think about it in

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the big picture, it didn't. It's not the most shocking

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>thing that's ever happened, that's for sure. Yeah, it definitely

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>ain't calling me by a surprise. Obviously, it's not what

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>you like Dave said, it's not a big picture, it's

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>not surprising, but I wasn't expecting it to happen right now.

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you see football players and he even mentioned this,

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd believing his better that football players are always thinking

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>of they're afraid of what's next when you're out of football.

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>So in my mind, every player is trying to stay

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL as long as possible. And to me,

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the way the progress that he was able to make

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>from when he got the syndrome to where he was

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>at last year was tremendous. So in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, yeah,

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>he's healthy, he's good to go. He looks fine for

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>another year, but clearly he knows his body way better

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>than anybody else, and he knows what's more important to

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 1>him at this stage in his life. But definitely call

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>me by surprise. Luckily, the Cowboys did sign Joe Looney,

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>so at least that's good. He's a guy that's proven

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>he's done it before, and that's at least someone that

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>can hold you in for the moment. You know. The

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>good thing though about it what you just said about,

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, life after football. I think when the players

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>are signing each other's yearbooks like they do at the

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>end of school and say most likely to succeed after football,

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I bet Travis Frederick is the number one guy on

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that list of guys that no one's worried about what

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be able to do. I think he

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>was a double major maybe in Collins, so one of

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the smartest players they've ever had, and I think that

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that showed on the field and not just a BookSmart guy.

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>He helped them on the field, and that's what I

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna miss more than anything as we talk

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>about possible or replacements here. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken,

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I remember someone telling me he's already built

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>an app that was I think his major was something

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>like computer science or something like that. But yeah, that

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>he's already built an app at Wow, while he's been playing,

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>he's built an app and plans maybe to build him

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot more. So. Yeah, I don't three years deared

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>about say again, three years from now, it's gonna be like, hey,

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>hello Sharks, my name is Travis, and I'm here today

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>seeking whatever. Yeah. Right, and so so talking through Nick,

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you started talking about options of what they do from here.

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>At least showed me when when you see this in

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>retrospect it and you look back on the fact that

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>they signed Looney pretty early on in free agency, it

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>suggests to me maybe true, maybe not, but it suggests

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>to me that maybe the Cowboys saw that this was

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a possibility and so they covered themselves in that way.

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>But talk me through the options of what the Cowboys

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>can do at center based on what they already have

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>in house. I mean, I can do it, but I'd

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>rather pass it on to Dave. Dave wrote a really

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>great article which was the theme of the last two weeks.

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>He's been killing it. But Dave wrote a great article

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>about a lot of options there. So I'll let Dave.

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean Looney now and and and McGovern, but maybe

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be interested. It's

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, for all the surprise and panic, I guess.

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you think about it, and it's obviously a

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>big hole. I mean, yes, the Cowboys they made it

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs without Travis in twenty eighteen, but it

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>was a clear drop off and play Joe Looney did

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>his best, but even he has said multiple times that

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>he's not Rabis Frederick having said that they're pretty well

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>prepared for this, they resigned Joe. He was a sixteen

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>game starter just two seasons ago, played well. And then hey,

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 1>kudos to the Cowboys for drafting the best player available,

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.760
<v Speaker 1>because as weird as it seemed when they drafted Connor

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>McGovern last year, now they have a top one hundred

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>draft pick who can play guard and center. I believe

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>started fourteen games at center at Penn State, so he's

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>done it against high quality competition. And then you've got

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Adam Redman, who they picked up the option on his

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>deal before free agency even started. He was a college center.

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>And then Connor Williams. That's gonna be interesting because you know,

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>you could. Theoretically, Connor McGovern could be a better left

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>guard than Connor Williams, and the Cowboys have said before

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that they think Connor Williams has the flexibility to play center.

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if they actually do that, but it's not

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>something I would rule out. But I mean, that's four

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>veteran NFL players on your roster that can handle it.

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't put this in my article, but technically Zach

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Martin could do it in a pinch too. He's done

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>it in practice before. I don't think I would move

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.879
<v Speaker 1>the best right guard of football, but if push came

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to show, I guess they could point being is like,

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I really, I don't think they need to worry about

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it in the draft. They've got plenty of options among

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the guys that are already here, even with the loss

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>of guys like Xavius Sulphilo and I know how at

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>tackle your swing tackle Cam Fleming. With losing those guys,

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>do you think that does that at all make you

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>think even though you got a lot of names here,

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>do you think they still need to add a few

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>more bodies to this list on the offensive line? Oh,

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I definite. I mean tackles Another story especially if Connor

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>if Travis Frederick's retirement kind of kills the thought of

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams moving to tackle, which we don't even know

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.240
<v Speaker 1>if they were going to do that, but it's something

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about. If you're not going to do that,

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>If if Connor Williams is either going to play a

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>guard or center, all the more reason why I'm looking

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 1>at tackles in the draft, probably and not you know,

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>not with pick seventeen, but wherever you can find the

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>best value to a upgrade swing tackle and b give

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.720
<v Speaker 1>yourself some insurance for Tyran Smith. I think that's a

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>sneaky thig priority, you know, one of the you know,

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously the reason we're doing all this is, you know,

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.280
<v Speaker 1>we just have so much uncertainty right now with when

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.919
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna be able to practice, when the doors

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>are going to be open, and all that stuff. So,

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think relying on young guys it's always

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>a tricky thing, but in a season like this, we

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know how much time they're gonna be on the field,

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and so, you know, I think having a veteran guy.

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>That's not why they signed Joe Looney, but I think

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>signing Joe Looney certainly helped, because you know, if it

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>gets down to it, maybe it's just maybe there's not

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of OTAs. Maybe there's no OTAs. Maybe they

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>go right to the training camp. I would rather have

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Joe Looney or some kind of veteran

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>that that that can step in. So I think teams

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>might be shifting a little bit there, covering themselves else knowing, yeah,

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>we drafted some great players, but they didn't get a

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of OTA works, they didn't get any mini camps.

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>We're throwing them in there for training camp. It might

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it might take a little bit longer to get these

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>guys ready to go. And even with I was gonna

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>just mentioned real quick, even with Connor McGovern, he didn't

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>have a rookie year last year. You know, he wasn't

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 1>able to do what rookies do in their first year.

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>And on top of that, to me, last time I

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>saw him, he was still like he looks rather small,

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, to where you would want those kind of

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>guys to be out And Karner Williams has been a

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>guy that we've talked about, you know, the lack of

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>strength and power and to me, like at least with

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Connor McGovern. I really wonder what's gonna be the plan

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>with him, especially if, like Nick mentioned, if we don't

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>have a great off season too where they're able to

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>go in their workout practice and all that. I wonder

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>how long it's going to take him to kind of

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 1>build up that strength that he would need for any

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>type of position within the old line. That's it. I'm

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>convinced signed Ron Larry. He's another guy. Yeah, he is

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>another guy that's out there, and I guess at some point,

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>at some point you probably could get We could get

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>him for a pretty decent price. Yeah, he has a

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:26.280
<v Speaker 1>house here. As as he's pointed out, there's probably answer question,

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh go ahead, what do you say? Day? It seems

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.720
<v Speaker 1>like every free agent was a Cowboys. Every free agent

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that Cowboys fans want them to sign that they aren't

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>signing seems to have a house in Dallas, So proximity

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:44.720
<v Speaker 1>is not holding them popular places. Yeah. Yeah. The interesting

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>question from Twitter from alfredos Alnas. He says, with the

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>new roster rule, how many offensive lineman do you expect

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>on the final roster? I guess knowing that now Cowboys

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 1>or all teams in NFL will be able to have

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.280
<v Speaker 1>an extra I think it's an extra two players active

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.359
<v Speaker 1>on game day. One of them has to be an

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman. How much do you think that factors into

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>some of these kinds of things. And we're talking about

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>these offensive linemen and maybe bringing in another body, is

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that does that at all affect these decisions? I mean,

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>the way you said it was a little tricky. You

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>have to have eight offensive lineman active, and so that

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean some teams could have nine or ten. I

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's gonna change to have that mean.

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess if you have to have eight

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>active every game, they usually have seven, sometimes eight. But

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I still think that you're gonna be sitting around ten

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>on your roster. I don't because they're not. I think

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>more than anything, you those extra two spots are gonna be,

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, more linebackers and maybe more receivers, but

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>just more guys or defensive backs, but more guys to

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 1>play special teams. It's kind of curious to me. It's

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>actually kind of curious to me that the league made

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>this rule and specified offensive linemen because of all the

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>positions in football, offensive line and probably quarterback are probably

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the last of the positions that don't rotate. You look

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>at all the other positions in the NFL, for the

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.479
<v Speaker 1>most part, most teams rotate those guys, and you would

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 1>think if they were gonna have extra reinforcements per game

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>day in order to give more more bodies that you

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>can throw at plays. Again, especially if you're going to

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>increase to an additional game to seventeen regular season games,

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>it would seem to me that you would actually want

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>to specify those players maybe at other positions rather than

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>offensive line. Seems a little curious to me. Well, you know,

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>at least for the Cowboys. I mean, you've seen sich

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Martin getting hurt during a game. We know Connor Williams

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>has gotten hurt and us and we don't have Xaviers

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to a fielt anymore. Tyren Smith is another guy that

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>has struggled with injuries. I'm not saying they're not gonna

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>be fully healthy this year or anything, but those are

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>already three guys within the offensive line that are starters

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 1>that to me, I'm always concerned now whether or not

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 1>they could get injured in the middle of the game.

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.360
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, maybe that helps at least with

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. But to me, I don't see it as

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>something bad. I think I think that's exactly why they

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>they're doing it, is because those injuries inside the game,

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and they don't want players to be like make choices

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>and say, well, as you're knee okay, because I mean,

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.479
<v Speaker 1>you're the only guard we've got, you know, and they

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 1>have to go out there. I mean, you know, I

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>could see the same thing being said about quarterbacks. Honestly,

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't surprise me if they did that where you know,

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you got to have three quarterbacks active, but or at

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>least in uniform. You know they have done that in

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 1>the past. But yeah, all right, looks take our final break.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, Amber's got a game for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna lighten this thing up, have some fun here

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<v Speaker 1>back to the final segment of the Break. We are live.

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<v Speaker 1>We are all in different locations, but we're doing Cowboys breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>We normally do here on every Wednesday during the offseason

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<v Speaker 1>eleven am Central Time, So make sure you tell a

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<v Speaker 1>friend to tune in. Hopefully we can all add some

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of levity to a otherwise very very

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>serious situation. You know, Derek, I said this last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have the most appropriately titled show in

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<v Speaker 1>all of TV, and all of radio and anything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the break, It's exactly what it is. This is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what people I think need. Hopefully it's what they need.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, at least we can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all need that. I can go another

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 1>hour just I'm ready to I'm ready to talk more football.

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I've said it. I said it to some

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>people I've talked to over the phone, and I've mentioned

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 1>it to you guys by email when I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>our tire group. I never realized how much I actually

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>miss hanging out with you guys at work until it

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 1>gets taken away and it really feels like a part

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>of my life is kind of empty. So it's good

0:44:58.160 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to get on here for an hour with you guys

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and talk football. I'm enjoying, all right, Amber, you have

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>a game for us, which you guys, all right, you

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 1>guys ready, So this is this is the game. What

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do. We have I have a set of

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>ten questions, some of the things we've already talked about,

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>but that's okay, we'll still hit on them. The first question,

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>so there are two questions. One question is going to

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 1>be a personal question. You're gonna write down your answer

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 1>on a piece of paper and then just show it

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>on screen as soon as I'm done asking the second question.

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 1>So when I'm done asking the second question, you show

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 1>your answer on screen, and then we'll discuss that second

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>question out loud. It'll make sense in a little bit.

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.399
<v Speaker 1>So let's just get started. So like a ninety eight

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>percent chance I'm gonna screw this up, but it's fine,

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 1>ready to go. It'll be fine. We won't discuss your

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 1>your personal answer personal question out loud. We'll just have

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 1>fans look at it on screen and that's it. Okay,

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 1>just try it. Yeah, yeah, we'll have some fun here.

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>We'll all right. First question, what you're gonna write down

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<v Speaker 1>on a piece of paper which NFL team has gained

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the most in this free agency? So to you which

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 1>NFL team has gained the most during this free agency? Now,

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the question that we're about to this cause is what

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 1>would be the best acquisition that the Cowboys have made

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 1>during this free agency? So you can lift up your

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 1>answer the first question. Wait, so we lift up we

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 1>lift up our answer for the first question. Yeah, just

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>show it on screen, and as you show it, just

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 1>live it there a few seconds, just so fans can

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.479
<v Speaker 1>look at it and see your answer. But then we're

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna got it. Now we're gonna talk about the best

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 1>acquisition for the Cowboys during this free agency. Who would

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you say, is your your guy that you thought that

0:46:54.080 --> 0:47:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys definitely needed for this year? All right? You know,

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I think McCoy, Gerald McCoy, if he you know,

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 1>can be the player that he's been. But I mean

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 1>he continues to get sacks from that position, So I

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, losing Malie Collins and getting Gerald McCoy, I

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>think that's one position where I think they have made

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 1>an upgrade. I know Collins is younger, but I still

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:21.760
<v Speaker 1>think he's never going to be the player that Gerald

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>McCoy was or he is. So I would say McCoy

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:28.439
<v Speaker 1>is is the best guy they've done, our best edition

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 1>so far. I absolutely agree with that. I don't think

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it's even close right now. I think once they signed,

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>or if they get the deal done finalized with Don

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Terry poev and I think he got a little more

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 1>of a conversation, but I think as of now it

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 1>has to be Gerald McCoy agreed unanimous. I know that's boring,

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's all good. Will. So we's going through all

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:50.840
<v Speaker 1>these questions? Can I quit? All right? Hey there you

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>got quick though, real quick though, Can I just back up?

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested to know why. I know why Nick and

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I chose Arizona because obviously they got the best. Did

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you know I listened to the rules here? Did you

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 1>not listen to the rules of the game? Okay, but

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, every sort? Why why? Why is that? No? No,

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I get that. I want to know what Dave said

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens. What what about the Ravens stands out to

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you most? Honestly, I just think it's incredible that they

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.759
<v Speaker 1>got Klais Campbell for a fifth round pick, Like that's

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:22.839
<v Speaker 1>just such an insane value. And you add a guy

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 1>who's that talented to what was already a pretty good defense,

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean they were the best team in

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the AFC last year. Um, I don't even know the

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>rest of what they did. Uh, it might not be great,

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 1>but adding a guy like that to a team that's

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>already that talented is pretty impressive. Yeah, exciting? All right,

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Sorry to delil the game. No, it's all good. Personal question,

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>your favorite player of all time? Meanwhile, what would you

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>say any team n okay, any tea. I mean, you

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>can't just any team Calvoy is anything you want? Favorite

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 1>player of all time? And then the question that we're

0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 1>going to discuss, what would you say is the biggest

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>loss for the Cowboys during this free agency? Y'all are

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna hate my answer. You're gonna think I'm stupid. All right,

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>So biggest loss loss, it's easily. How is your biggest one,

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Robbie Quinn, I agree, Robert Quinn. They don't have any

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:36.760
<v Speaker 1>pass rushers. I agree. I'm sorry I keep slandering Grandy Gregory,

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:40.359
<v Speaker 1>but they don't have any pass rushers. And it's who's

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 1>your guy? I can't see that. Who is it? Dave?

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not supposed to see it right now? I'm sorry. Sorry.

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>You can go back and listen to the watch the

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>show later. You are looking at the right cameras. But

0:49:56.440 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 1>it's fine, yeah, right, okay, you know, regards to the

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 1>with regards to the guy that they lost. I actually

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>think the interesting thing here is that Randall Cobb. I

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.840
<v Speaker 1>think you have more ability to be able to replace

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Randall Cobb than you do, um Robert Quinn. I think

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:17.719
<v Speaker 1>there are more options out there, especially if you look

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:19.880
<v Speaker 1>at the draft. We've talked about this over and over.

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:22.720
<v Speaker 1>There are tons of guys in the draft wide receivers

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:24.319
<v Speaker 1>that are really good players that you can get even

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 1>later in the draft. And you know, my guy Duverne

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>is still gonna be out there and available. I would

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 1>assume third maybe fourth round. So I think they're good

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>quality options, good quality options to replace Cobb. I don't

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 1>know that you have those kinds of options to replace

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Robert Quinn. That's gonna be a hard replacement. Yeah, I

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 1>think though, I mean, those guys it's still a committee though.

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I still think you know that they've done a decent job.

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 1>And Tom Sewela, I think can can figure that out.

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Byron Jones to me, like, what are they doing at corner?

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 1>That's to me, that's the problem is because the reason

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 1>why Iron Jones had all these great stats, it's because

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 1>everyone threw over to Cheeto all the time. So now

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>he's your main guy, Like, that's that worries me a

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:10.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I think I think the biggest loss is

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Byron Jones. Yeah, all right, all right, personal question, favorite

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 1>TV show at the moment? Now, what would you say

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the moment too? Is the top draft priority for the

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys as of right now, looking at what they currently

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 1>have on their list and the current guys that they've

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>signed so far, what would be the top draft priority.

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Reference made one reference. Of course, it's my favorite. Nick

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 1>just said it. I think it has, at least for me.

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 1>It's it's cornerback. I just don't know if the player

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be there that can give you the value

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you need where you're picking. But I think cornerback is

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>probably your biggest, your piggot, your biggest draft need at

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>this point, because you don't have even if you talk

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:04.280
<v Speaker 1>about by committee right now, Anthony Brown's gonna be starting

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 1>for you. I would assume I don't know if I'm

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:10.479
<v Speaker 1>all that excited about that, and I make my pitch,

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Sure pick, you better not say a wide receiver. Oh

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say wide receiver. And I'll tell you why.

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:25.520
<v Speaker 1>At seventeen. You can draft a cornerback. You could draft CJ. Henderson.

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>He'll probably be like part of a committee. Like the

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:32.239
<v Speaker 1>odds that a guy that is drafting seventeenth overall is

0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:34.439
<v Speaker 1>just handling his side of the field from day one,

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 1>totally possible, not a slam dunk. The same thing goes

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>for edge rusher. I'm a big fan of Calevan Jason.

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>If he's there, you can do that. He's got sky

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:48.799
<v Speaker 1>high athleticism and potential, still probably gonna need a year

0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 1>of seasoning. If you draft cde Lam, he's starting right away,

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:58.719
<v Speaker 1>scoring touchdowns and moving inside and outside and making the

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Dallas offense that much better. The chance that tribute in

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>meaningful way right away is just a lot better than

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a defender. And obviously drafts are about more than just

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:12.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. But that's your best bet to improve this

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>team right away in my opinion. You know, I just

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 1>think I just think that's a different answer to the question.

0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean about the biggest need, because you're overlooking the need,

0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 1>which is fine. I mean that that's what they do.

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>You're you're you're going with best available player, which is

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>exactly what Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones is gonna tell us.

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 1>So if that's what they do, it sounds like all

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 1>those receivers are going to be there. But that's not that.

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 1>The question was like the biggest need, and I think

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the biggest need is it still corner another But that

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:43.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that you reached for it if it's not there.

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:49.359
<v Speaker 1>So Dave defense wins games. We hear this over and

0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>over and championship? Who just won the Super Bowl? All right?

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Moving up to the next questions. Moving up to the

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>next question. Do you have toilet paper? Write it down

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:07.319
<v Speaker 1>on your sheet of paper? Oh, I don't know if

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:12.399
<v Speaker 1>you want to divulge if you don't like all right? What? Um?

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 1>We kind of talked about this already, got it right there.

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna use it as a prop. Actually it's

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 1>for my phone here, but toilet paper for like a weekend. Oh,

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it's been a running joke between me and Dave. Anything

0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:33.920
<v Speaker 1>was going on, I was, I was at the store looking,

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>but I got it. I found it. Um, I'm sorry.

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:43.360
<v Speaker 1>What was the question? What position should be addressed before

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the draft? We kind of mentioned this a little bit,

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>but what would you say is a position that definitely

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 1>needs to be addressed before the draft? Of everything I'm

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 1>seeing out there, I think they could address defensive end.

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just a question of whether they want to. I mean,

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:00.080
<v Speaker 1>we talked about some of the names that are out there,

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:03.719
<v Speaker 1>was some Griffin and jadeveon Clowney and you know, and

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 1>even if they want to go the route of bringing

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 1>back on Michael Bennett if he's not going to retire.

0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I think there are options out there at defensive end.

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if those numbers work for them or not,

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 1>but I do think there are some options there, and

0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.359
<v Speaker 1>there are options that I think a step in day

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 1>one and be starters and give you good production. I

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:25.279
<v Speaker 1>probably would say corner. I mean, I think you could

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 1>if there's another one corner out there. I don't know

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Zaer RhoD still out there. Oh yeah, but I don't

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:36.400
<v Speaker 1>want him. I believe he is, Yeah, I don't. I

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm sold on that. He did not

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:42.399
<v Speaker 1>play well last year at all at all? The thing

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>for me, right, all right, I agree with everything y'all

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:48.480
<v Speaker 1>just said. But I mean, they've signed two cornerbacks, not

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.479
<v Speaker 1>actually three if you count C. J. Goodwin. Not trying

0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to convince anybody that they're the legion of boom, but

0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 1>they have bodies, which that's what they do, right like

0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 1>they fill the position so that they can draft purely.

0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 1>They haven't really done that at wide receiver, which I

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:07.439
<v Speaker 1>can talk all I want about ceedee Lamb. I don't

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:11.800
<v Speaker 1>really expect that to happen, but right now they don't

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>have like a proven veteran slot like I know, Cedric

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Wilson is still kicking around, Devin Smith is kicking around. Like.

0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 1>There's guys on the roster, but you would expect them, yeah, John,

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's guys, but not guys that have done it,

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 1>which is what you would expect. The thing is is

0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:32.320
<v Speaker 1>there's just there are not very many like capable receivers

0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:35.919
<v Speaker 1>left on the market. It is pretty barren. So I've

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:37.759
<v Speaker 1>got an eye on that. I'm curious to see what

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:43.560
<v Speaker 1>they do. All right. Personal question, what do you miss

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the most as of right now? Since we're in lockdown,

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and the question would be, we know the linebacker group,

0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 1>what that's like as of now? You know, they're pretty

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:59.839
<v Speaker 1>much similar to last year, and last year they did

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 1>it necessarily perform how we expected them too. What are

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:08.959
<v Speaker 1>your expectations now for this twenty twenty with the linebacker group?

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the linebackers, I mean that's the

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 1>one position where there's not a lot of change at all.

0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like they I'm kind of surprised they brought

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 1>everybody back um topped about it. I mean, does anybody

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 1>else think that it's kind of weird that the one

0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 1>position that was really bad last year. I mean the

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:43.600
<v Speaker 1>one area was special teams, and they everybody's pretty much back.

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 1>The core players of the linebackers were back. See J

0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Goodwin was back. I mean, I guess not the punt returners,

0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:53.560
<v Speaker 1>but you know, I mean deep snapper he wasn't the problem.

0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 1>He's back, and kickers back, and the punter looks like

0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:59.160
<v Speaker 1>he's just seems kind of weird. But like that's not

0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:02.160
<v Speaker 1>answering your question. But I just think all the linebackers

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that they brought back, I mean, is everyone. If everyone's healthy,

0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 1>then there's not gonna be a lot of change there.

0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a sneaky need though. I think it's

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:12.920
<v Speaker 1>an underrated need that the Cowboys need to address in

0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the draft. Is getting a linebacker in the third or

0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 1>fourth round. Can I ask you a question, Yeah, how many?

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 1>How many of those guys? Because I've heard this floated

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, I don't know how I feel about it.

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 1>If the Cowboys signed don Terry Poem and they, in

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 1>fact they brought back all these linebackers, does it at

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 1>all signal to you that there is a possibility that

0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>they'll be playing more three four than four three next

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 1>year is now not to me, Yeah, I think it

0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>signals that they're tired of their linebackers getting getting hit

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 1>by guards and centers, and they're trying to play it

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>a different way. I think signing Poe and McCoy to me,

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:01.640
<v Speaker 1>suggests that they're they're gonna they're gonna go with the

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 1>four man front. And you know, McCarthy has said as much.

0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's kind of said that it will be

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a four man front. So, um, I guess those two

0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:12.959
<v Speaker 1>guys could rotate as the one in a three four.

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:15.520
<v Speaker 1>But I think they're gonna play together. I think it's

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a four three. I just think you're gonna

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:20.000
<v Speaker 1>have a bigger, bigger line. Well, I do think if

0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 1>they if they were to go to three four, I

0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:23.480
<v Speaker 1>think McCoy would be a defensive end. He seems to

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:27.520
<v Speaker 1>have that typical three four defensive end build. But again,

0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that that's necessarily the way it goes.

0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering aloud. You know, I've heard people kind

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:34.880
<v Speaker 1>of speculating there, and I do wonder if if maybe

0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:37.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a shade of that involved. We obviously wouldn't know

0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>that until we get to training camp, we start seeing

0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:41.520
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. I think you can go get an

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:43.880
<v Speaker 1>idea if you turn on the tape of Carolina, Like

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:47.320
<v Speaker 1>they they were multiple. They did a lot of both

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Poe and McCoy. Poe played the vast majority of his

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:53.320
<v Speaker 1>snaps as a one technique in a four three front,

0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:56.200
<v Speaker 1>but they did place in three four where McCoy wasn't

0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>end and Poe played nose tackle, and they kicked their

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:02.120
<v Speaker 1>linebackers out wide. Like I think you'll see a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of that. I think you can get multiple. You

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<v Speaker 1>can use Jalen Smith as a rush linebacker, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think they'll be a four or three front the vast

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the time. I think Nick's right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the tape and you're like, man, how

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<v Speaker 1>can we get more out of Jayalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if we get these offensive linemen off their ass by

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<v Speaker 1>beefing up the front the defensive front, they'll probably be better.

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<v Speaker 1>Which my expectations are that they are great because Layton

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<v Speaker 1>Vanderesh was great when he was healthy as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>Jaalen Smith should be much better again. And if he's

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<v Speaker 1>got that ability to move in space and make plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Just looking at it on paper, they're still one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most talented units on the team. Mike Nolan is

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive specialist. He coached linebackers for the Saints for

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years. Damario O'Davis was amazing for

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<v Speaker 1>them while Nolan was there. So my expectation is that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be really good. I mean, it's to

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<v Speaker 1>live up to it, but that's what I expect. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really an interesting point, David. I actually that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why I hope the Cowboys can go out

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<v Speaker 1>either in free agency and get a veteran pass rusher

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<v Speaker 1>like Griffin or get if he's available to him. Jay

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<v Speaker 1>saw it in the draft, because I think if they

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<v Speaker 1>can get that final piece, that other defensive end that

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<v Speaker 1>they're now adding the tank, and now they're adding to

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<v Speaker 1>these huge bodies there in the middle that they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>where these linebackers can really run. I think it actually

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<v Speaker 1>makes the secondary a ton better because you'll actually may

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get some pass rush, you may be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do some things. You can make teams one dimensional,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas right now last year they were not stopping to

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<v Speaker 1>run consistently enough to be able to force teams to

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<v Speaker 1>have to throw the ball. And so I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you can do those things, if you can really solidify

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<v Speaker 1>that line up front, I think it makes your whole

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<v Speaker 1>defense a ton better. And that's where they get better.

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<v Speaker 1>It may not be in actually adding more talent necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>to the secondary right now, as much as it is

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<v Speaker 1>beefing up that front. Well, we've kind of out of

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<v Speaker 1>time already. I don't know if you want to keep,

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<v Speaker 1>but like one last question or just call it quits.

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<v Speaker 1>If you got another question, let's roll with it, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Personal question? What is your favorite road game? Um? And

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<v Speaker 1>then so you said road game? Where are we talking

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<v Speaker 1>here in general? Where are you like traveling to the

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<v Speaker 1>most when we get back on Yeah, got it already, already,

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<v Speaker 1>have one done, all right, we'll show it to the

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<v Speaker 1>camera then, and then for the question. Um, some of

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<v Speaker 1>these things we've already talked about. But let's just go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and do you want a Dak question or an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line question? Let's go back. We haven't talked Dack today,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Well, well it's very simple. What's up with

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<v Speaker 1>that's what is going on with this Dak situation? What

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<v Speaker 1>is up with Derek Prescott. We know that. Yeah, that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're You're right. So is there a timeline and expectations

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<v Speaker 1>when when we should be kind of hoping or expecting

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<v Speaker 1>this whole deal to be done. The actually talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this well, we talked about it last week and it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really interesting because the leverage in this

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<v Speaker 1>whole situation is out the window, like kind of similar

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<v Speaker 1>to Tank last year. You know, Tank's deal got done

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<v Speaker 1>in April instead of July because he had a surgery

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to make sure he was as right

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<v Speaker 1>as he could possibly be, and it spurred them to

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<v Speaker 1>action earlier than they needed to. Dak's leverage is not

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<v Speaker 1>showing up for the offseason program, so that starts April six,

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<v Speaker 1>if Dak is serious about not being in the building

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<v Speaker 1>until then, if Weaving have an offseason program. No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the point I'm getting to is it's out. It's gone there,

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<v Speaker 1>That leverage is gone. Yeah, because right now players can't

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<v Speaker 1>come in the building anyway. We don't know when OTAs

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<v Speaker 1>are going to start. We don't know what the deal

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<v Speaker 1>is with captain's workouts mini camp right now. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hopefully, but who knows if training camp is

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<v Speaker 1>even going to start at the regularly scheduled times, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to get a grass because you know, before

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<v Speaker 1>all this happened, before we all had to go home,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have said, you know, this will be done

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<v Speaker 1>by mid April, because they're not going to mess around

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<v Speaker 1>with their franchise quarterback not being in the building for

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<v Speaker 1>the start of a new regime's offseason program. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be silly. But if nobody can go into the building anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>who the hell knows. So your guest is as good

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<v Speaker 1>as mine right now. So here's the question then that

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<v Speaker 1>if there is no offseason program or modified offseason program,

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<v Speaker 1>then training camp becomes even more important. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that would be willing to do what Zeke did and

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<v Speaker 1>sit out training camp because that would be a huge deal,

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<v Speaker 1>which act and I gotta I gotta give him credit.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Holley made a great point last week that the

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<v Speaker 1>lack of knowledge about when this is all going to

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<v Speaker 1>start should give the Cowboys, it should spur them to

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<v Speaker 1>even more action, because when that switch gets flipped and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can go back to work, you're gonna want your

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<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback to be part of that Um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've said, but I would have I would have to

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<v Speaker 1>see Dak actually hold out to believe that he would

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<v Speaker 1>do it, But I can't rule it out. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see that happening with Dak. I gotta remember he

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<v Speaker 1>might not love playing on the franchise tag, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, you know, if he does play this

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<v Speaker 1>year on the franchise tag, he's got something to prove

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because this is a contract year. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Derek, you say it more than anybody, especially

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, running backs, but I'm sure it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same with quarterbacks. Not being there for training camp is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to help you be the player that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be in a contract year, in a major

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<v Speaker 1>contract here, So he's got that's a risky thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just holding out and saying, oh, good luck with

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Russ, because it won't be Cooper Rush. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be somebody else that they bring in. Jamis all right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you setting up the game Amber. That was

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<v Speaker 1>really entertaining, really fun. We'll do that again next week,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the end of our time. We appreciate all

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<v Speaker 1>you guys took some time to day to jump on

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<v Speaker 1>with us, talk a little bit of Cowboys football. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back next week on Wednesday, probably still in the

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<v Speaker 1>same format. I think we're gonna be doing this for

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, but we'll see, we'll see. We all play

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<v Speaker 1>it by ear. We hope you guys stay safe till then.

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<v Speaker 1>For Nick even, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. I am

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas

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