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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Mark twenty fifth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number two. Welcome to a different edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are live, but in all different locations. Everybody's at

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Speaker 1: their own homes, social distancing, and but we got an

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Speaker 1: hour of cow Boys talk here for you guys, live

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Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I got my crew, Nick, Dave, Amber,

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Speaker 1: good to have you guys back with me so we

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Speaker 1: can talk a little Cowboys football. Everybody's doing today, It's

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Speaker 1: about time. It is about time. I mean, da Nick Good.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where y'all were, but yeah, let's party.

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Speaker 1: I've always wanted to be like in The Brady Bunch,

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Speaker 1: you know. I love that show, and Derek you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Dave probably don't, Amber, maybe not,

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Speaker 1: but you know the Brady Bunch, y'all think I'm like eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I swear to God, you keep getting we don't ever

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Speaker 1: aige you you just stay at eighteen forever, right, yeah, exactly?

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Speaker 1: All right, So we got a lot to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's been obviously a lot of news around

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Uh now the free agency has begun. They've

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Speaker 1: been signing players, they've been losing players. Um, and I'll

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Speaker 1: start the conversation right there just looking at it holistically.

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Speaker 1: If you look at all the players that they've lost

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have lost. And then I want to ask

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Speaker 1: the simple question if you think the Cowboys are better

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Speaker 1: or worse now than they were when the season ended

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Speaker 1: or at the end of last season. So they've lost

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Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, Cam Fleming, Xavier Sphilo, Travis Frederick, Robert Quinn,

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Speaker 1: I think is a tight end that they're they're adding today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's final yet, but that's what's

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Speaker 1: you guys think they are right now in free agency?

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Speaker 1: Are they better or worse than they were at the

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Speaker 1: because of the of the guys that they've lost, the

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Speaker 1: and they haven't resigned anybody remotely close to replacing those

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Speaker 1: But for me, those two right there, I think you're

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, google it. It's pretty awesome. So

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Speaker 1: forget that though. Hey, guys, forget the part about don

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Speaker 1: sure Derek does. He played at Oklahoma what ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: safety the Cowboys signed. I think it was maybe late

424
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Speaker 1: last week, but Thursday night good and so I want

425
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: to get your opinions on what you think of the

426
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: signing just overall him as a player, what do you

427
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: think he brings to the Cowboys. Let's start with you, Nick.

428
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: You know, I think that he's just a veteran guy

429
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: that has pretty good range. It sounds like, again he

430
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: goes into your category of some players that have been

431
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: in different teams and good enough to sign, not good

432
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: enough to keep, and so you know that's those guys

433
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 1: are always interesting, but you know, usually when you surround

434
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: them around guys with really good cornerbacks, you feel better

435
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: about it. That's why, you know, I think it's a

436
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: little bit I'm a little uneasy about all that because

437
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: I just I don't know if he's the exact answer there,

438
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: just because you know, just because he's got a catchy

439
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: name and he's a first round pick and he's got

440
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: history with McCarthy, that doesn't always mean that it's going

441
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 1: to work out. So I'm a little bit hesitant about

442
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: saying that this is going to be a good move. Dave,

443
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: I like it, Yeah, I mean I agree. You know,

444
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: he's a former first round pick, he's been to a

445
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I don't think he's going to conjure up

446
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: image is of like Earl Thomas, you know, like, this

447
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: isn't that type of signing. He's got flaws in his game.

448
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: He's not the best tackler, he's not amazing and run support.

449
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 1: He can get reckless in coverage, like he'll give up

450
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: some plays. At the same time, the thing that makes

451
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: you a first round pick most of the time at

452
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: safety is when you have ball skills and the ability

453
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: to make plays on the ball. So my hope is

454
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: if he can contribute a handful of takeaways. That's a

455
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: handful more than the Cowboys safeties have provided in recent seasons.

456
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: I think he had two picks for the Bears last year,

457
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: which you know, preferably be a little bit more, but

458
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: that's still better than what you've gotten from the safety

459
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: position in recent years. So, like I said, yeah, I

460
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: don't think this is a home run signing, but if

461
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: he can use those ball skills to add to your

462
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: takeaway tally, hopefully it'll work out pretty well. You know.

463
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: One of the things that I've been paying attention to

464
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: this for this upcoming year is a tackling, which is

465
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: obviously one of the things that the Cowboys struggle with.

466
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: Last year as a defense And you know, when I

467
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: when I started looking in day will know and I

468
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: start looking at all these players prospect from the draft,

469
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: most of them all have like tackling issues, Like I

470
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: don't know what the deal is with the whole tackling.

471
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: So for me, at least, this is a guy that

472
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: has experienced on the field. And I keep saying it,

473
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: I want someone with experience. I don't want a rookie

474
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: or depend on a rookie to start off the season.

475
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: I want someone that's capable of going in there and

476
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: and he has you know, he has the um what

477
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: do you call it, like the fitness level. He's not

478
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for. Athleticism is what I'm

479
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: looking for. It's a big word, right, There's very about that. Yeah,

480
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: So he has a good aspect that he brings, but

481
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: the whole tackling thing that concerns me not a whole lot,

482
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: but it's still something that I'm definitely keeping in my

483
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: eyes on. Yeah, for those of you out there listening

484
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: and watching, if you haven't had a chance to check

485
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: out Dallas scoutboys dot com, yesterday we put up a

486
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: scoutter report from our own Bucky Brooks, who is now

487
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: starting to do some a little work with our team.

488
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: He'll be doing some scouter reports for a lot of

489
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: players over this next field the next few months. But

490
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: just go check out that scoutter report and one of

491
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: the things that just kind of jumped off the page

492
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: when I read it was he called him the perfect

493
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: bridge player. And that's exactly how I thought of this

494
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: signing is this is a guy that is going to

495
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: give you time. He's buying you time for you to

496
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: develop someone else. So likelihood that he's going to be

497
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: sitting in that spot a couple of years from now

498
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: is probably pretty small. Question is who's going to be

499
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: in that spot? Who are they gonna draft this year?

500
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: Who might they I don't think it's probably going to

501
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: be a free agent signing at this point, but I

502
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: think you have to look at who are they got

503
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: a draft they can bring in and start getting them

504
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: reps this year so that next year or the year

505
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: after that person is your league gout? You know the

506
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: thing about and we've said this several times. We've heard

507
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: the term bridge player a lot, But the question I

508
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: have is are the Cowboys going to cross it? You

509
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: can build a bridge all you want to, but do

510
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: they want to get to the other side because they

511
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: can't develop They're not going to develop a fifth round

512
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: safety or sixth round safety. They try with Xavier Woods,

513
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: and you know that's cute and all, but I mean,

514
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: if at some point you're gonna have to to make that,

515
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, that move and actually draft a really high

516
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: caliber safety and so hopefully you know we can that

517
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: could be this year. But I mean, then again, we

518
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 1: just we just mentioned defensive end, cornerback, and now center

519
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: are our positions that you're going into the draft, slot receiver.

520
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: So I don't know if safety is gonna gonna be

521
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: the case this year. It may be best available. I've

522
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: been I've been hurt before. Like ideally, I would love

523
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: to say this is perfect. You got Haha, you got Woods,

524
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: draft the safety in the top, you know, one hundred

525
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: picks first three rounds and that's your guy for the

526
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: future and Haha is a perfect bridge. But I gotta

527
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: see it to believe that they're going to do it.

528
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, Nick just laid it out perfectly. Like right now,

529
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: it's still time and free agency. But like you all right,

530
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, I'm rooting for you, man, but you probably

531
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: need to draft a defensive end, cornerback, don't feel great

532
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: about it, don't have a slot receiver, and then there's

533
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: the safety issues. So even with all you know, I

534
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: think Poe would be their fifth or sixth signing from

535
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: outside and they still have work to do. All right, Nick,

536
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned the center position. I want to dive into

537
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: now the conversation around Travis Frederick who announced I think

538
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: it was yesterday that he is retiring from the NFL.

539
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: Interesting statement that he made talking about his struggles coming

540
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: back and he just didn't feel like he could be

541
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: the player that he was accustomed to being. How surprised

542
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: were you guys, and how surprised do you think the

543
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys were at this retirement. I'm not gonna say I was.

544
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I mean a little bit surprised, but I

545
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: mean somebody in our office actually said like two or

546
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: three years ago that he wasn't gonna play very long.

547
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: And this was before all of that happened. So that's

548
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: been on the report of syndrome. Oh yeah, like three

549
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: years ago. Was like, well what if he doesn't? You know,

550
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly how it went. Down, but it

551
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: was put on the radar that he's not long for this,

552
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: and I you know, yeah, and I've mentioned this a

553
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: little bit and then coming back, he didn't, you know,

554
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: he didn't have a great year Pro Bowl. That's that's nice,

555
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: But I mean I don't think a lot of people

556
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: know a lot of centers in the league, and so

557
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, Frederick, Pro Bowl. Sure, but he didn't

558
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: have a Pro Bowl year and he admitted it and

559
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: he knows it, and I think he just SE's just

560
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: saying his future and his family are more important than

561
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: football right now. On top of that. And yeah, I

562
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: mean that's one of those things you know, you have

563
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: that benefit working in the building that I've heard it

564
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: mentioned or rumored at least a handful of times over

565
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: the last two or three years that retirement could be

566
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: something to watch out for Travis Frederick. It's not the

567
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: type of thing that you want to throw out there

568
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: recklessly because it's a guy's career. But I wasn't that

569
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: caught off guard. I if anything, I was. I thought,

570
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: the guy makes thirteen million dollars a year, Like that's

571
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: hard money to walk away from. But I think Travis

572
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: Frederick played at such a high level for such a

573
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: long time that he wasn't going to be satisfied playing

574
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: at a lesser level. So it made it made sense,

575
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: you know. I guess the timing kind of caught me

576
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: off guard, but like when you think about it in

577
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: the big picture, it didn't. It's not the most shocking

578
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened, that's for sure. Yeah, it definitely

579
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: ain't calling me by a surprise. Obviously, it's not what

580
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: you like Dave said, it's not a big picture, it's

581
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: not surprising, but I wasn't expecting it to happen right now.

582
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: You know, you see football players and he even mentioned this,

583
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: I'd believing his better that football players are always thinking

584
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: of they're afraid of what's next when you're out of football.

585
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: So in my mind, every player is trying to stay

586
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL as long as possible. And to me,

587
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: the way the progress that he was able to make

588
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: from when he got the syndrome to where he was

589
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: at last year was tremendous. So in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, yeah,

590
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's good to go. He looks fine for

591
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: another year, but clearly he knows his body way better

592
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: than anybody else, and he knows what's more important to

593
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: him at this stage in his life. But definitely call

594
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: me by surprise. Luckily, the Cowboys did sign Joe Looney,

595
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: so at least that's good. He's a guy that's proven

596
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: he's done it before, and that's at least someone that

597
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: can hold you in for the moment. You know. The

598
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: good thing though about it what you just said about,

599
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, life after football. I think when the players

600
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: are signing each other's yearbooks like they do at the

601
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: end of school and say most likely to succeed after football,

602
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: I bet Travis Frederick is the number one guy on

603
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: that list of guys that no one's worried about what

604
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to do. I think he

605
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: was a double major maybe in Collins, so one of

606
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: the smartest players they've ever had, and I think that

607
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: that showed on the field and not just a BookSmart guy.

608
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: He helped them on the field, and that's what I

609
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: think they're gonna miss more than anything as we talk

610
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: about possible or replacements here. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken,

611
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: I think I remember someone telling me he's already built

612
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: an app that was I think his major was something

613
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: like computer science or something like that. But yeah, that

614
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: he's already built an app at Wow, while he's been playing,

615
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: he's built an app and plans maybe to build him

616
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: a lot more. So. Yeah, I don't three years deared

617
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: about say again, three years from now, it's gonna be like, hey,

618
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: hello Sharks, my name is Travis, and I'm here today

619
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: seeking whatever. Yeah. Right, and so so talking through Nick,

620
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: you started talking about options of what they do from here.

621
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: At least showed me when when you see this in

622
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: retrospect it and you look back on the fact that

623
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: they signed Looney pretty early on in free agency, it

624
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: suggests to me maybe true, maybe not, but it suggests

625
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: to me that maybe the Cowboys saw that this was

626
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: a possibility and so they covered themselves in that way.

627
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: But talk me through the options of what the Cowboys

628
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: can do at center based on what they already have

629
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: in house. I mean, I can do it, but I'd

630
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: rather pass it on to Dave. Dave wrote a really

631
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: great article which was the theme of the last two weeks.

632
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: He's been killing it. But Dave wrote a great article

633
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: about a lot of options there. So I'll let Dave.

634
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean Looney now and and and McGovern, but maybe

635
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: Connor Williams. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be interested. It's

636
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, for all the surprise and panic, I guess.

637
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Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it, and it's obviously a

638
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Speaker 1: big hole. I mean, yes, the Cowboys they made it

639
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs without Travis in twenty eighteen, but it

640
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: was a clear drop off and play Joe Looney did

641
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Speaker 1: his best, but even he has said multiple times that

642
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Speaker 1: he's not Rabis Frederick having said that they're pretty well

643
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: prepared for this, they resigned Joe. He was a sixteen

644
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: game starter just two seasons ago, played well. And then hey,

645
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Speaker 1: kudos to the Cowboys for drafting the best player available,

646
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: because as weird as it seemed when they drafted Connor

647
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Speaker 1: McGovern last year, now they have a top one hundred

648
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Speaker 1: draft pick who can play guard and center. I believe

649
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: started fourteen games at center at Penn State, so he's

650
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Speaker 1: done it against high quality competition. And then you've got

651
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Speaker 1: Adam Redman, who they picked up the option on his

652
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: deal before free agency even started. He was a college center.

653
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Speaker 1: And then Connor Williams. That's gonna be interesting because you know,

654
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Speaker 1: you could. Theoretically, Connor McGovern could be a better left

655
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Speaker 1: guard than Connor Williams, and the Cowboys have said before

656
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: that they think Connor Williams has the flexibility to play center.

657
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Speaker 1: We'll see if they actually do that, but it's not

658
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Speaker 1: something I would rule out. But I mean, that's four

659
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Speaker 1: veteran NFL players on your roster that can handle it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't put this in my article, but technically Zach

661
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: Martin could do it in a pinch too. He's done

662
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: it in practice before. I don't think I would move

663
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Speaker 1: the best right guard of football, but if push came

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Speaker 1: to show, I guess they could point being is like,

665
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Speaker 1: I really, I don't think they need to worry about

666
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Speaker 1: it in the draft. They've got plenty of options among

667
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Speaker 1: the guys that are already here, even with the loss

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Speaker 1: of guys like Xavius Sulphilo and I know how at

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Speaker 1: tackle your swing tackle Cam Fleming. With losing those guys,

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Speaker 1: do you think that does that at all make you

671
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: think even though you got a lot of names here,

672
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Speaker 1: do you think they still need to add a few

673
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: more bodies to this list on the offensive line? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I definite. I mean tackles Another story especially if Connor

675
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: if Travis Frederick's retirement kind of kills the thought of

676
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Speaker 1: Connor Williams moving to tackle, which we don't even know

677
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Speaker 1: if they were going to do that, but it's something

678
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: we've talked about. If you're not going to do that,

679
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: If if Connor Williams is either going to play a

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Speaker 1: guard or center, all the more reason why I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at tackles in the draft, probably and not you know,

682
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Speaker 1: not with pick seventeen, but wherever you can find the

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Speaker 1: best value to a upgrade swing tackle and b give

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Speaker 1: yourself some insurance for Tyran Smith. I think that's a

685
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Speaker 1: sneaky thig priority, you know, one of the you know,

686
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: obviously the reason we're doing all this is, you know,

687
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: we just have so much uncertainty right now with when

688
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Speaker 1: people are gonna be able to practice, when the doors

689
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: are going to be open, and all that stuff. So,

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00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think relying on young guys it's always

691
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: a tricky thing, but in a season like this, we

692
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know how much time they're gonna be on the field,

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Speaker 1: and so, you know, I think having a veteran guy.

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Speaker 1: That's not why they signed Joe Looney, but I think

695
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: signing Joe Looney certainly helped, because you know, if it

696
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: gets down to it, maybe it's just maybe there's not

697
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Speaker 1: a lot of OTAs. Maybe there's no OTAs. Maybe they

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00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: go right to the training camp. I would rather have

699
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: a guy like Joe Looney or some kind of veteran

700
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: that that that can step in. So I think teams

701
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: might be shifting a little bit there, covering themselves else knowing, yeah,

702
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: we drafted some great players, but they didn't get a

703
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: lot of OTA works, they didn't get any mini camps.

704
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: We're throwing them in there for training camp. It might

705
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: it might take a little bit longer to get these

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Speaker 1: guys ready to go. And even with I was gonna

707
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: just mentioned real quick, even with Connor McGovern, he didn't

708
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: have a rookie year last year. You know, he wasn't

709
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Speaker 1: able to do what rookies do in their first year.

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, to me, last time I

711
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: saw him, he was still like he looks rather small,

712
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, to where you would want those kind of

713
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: guys to be out And Karner Williams has been a

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Speaker 1: guy that we've talked about, you know, the lack of

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Speaker 1: strength and power and to me, like at least with

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Speaker 1: Connor McGovern. I really wonder what's gonna be the plan

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Speaker 1: with him, especially if, like Nick mentioned, if we don't

718
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: have a great off season too where they're able to

719
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: go in their workout practice and all that. I wonder

720
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Speaker 1: how long it's going to take him to kind of

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Speaker 1: build up that strength that he would need for any

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Speaker 1: type of position within the old line. That's it. I'm

723
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: convinced signed Ron Larry. He's another guy. Yeah, he is

724
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: another guy that's out there, and I guess at some point,

725
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: at some point you probably could get We could get

726
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: him for a pretty decent price. Yeah, he has a

727
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: house here. As as he's pointed out, there's probably answer question,

728
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Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, what do you say? Day? It seems

729
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: like every free agent was a Cowboys. Every free agent

730
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: that Cowboys fans want them to sign that they aren't

731
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Speaker 1: signing seems to have a house in Dallas, So proximity

732
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: is not holding them popular places. Yeah. Yeah. The interesting

733
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Speaker 1: question from Twitter from alfredos Alnas. He says, with the

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Speaker 1: new roster rule, how many offensive lineman do you expect

735
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Speaker 1: on the final roster? I guess knowing that now Cowboys

736
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: or all teams in NFL will be able to have

737
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: an extra I think it's an extra two players active

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Speaker 1: on game day. One of them has to be an

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. How much do you think that factors into

740
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Speaker 1: some of these kinds of things. And we're talking about

741
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Speaker 1: these offensive linemen and maybe bringing in another body, is

742
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Speaker 1: that does that at all affect these decisions? I mean,

743
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Speaker 1: the way you said it was a little tricky. You

744
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Speaker 1: have to have eight offensive lineman active, and so that

745
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean some teams could have nine or ten. I

746
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna change to have that mean.

747
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you have to have eight

748
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Speaker 1: active every game, they usually have seven, sometimes eight. But

749
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Speaker 1: I still think that you're gonna be sitting around ten

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Speaker 1: on your roster. I don't because they're not. I think

751
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: more than anything, you those extra two spots are gonna be,

752
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: in my opinion, more linebackers and maybe more receivers, but

753
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: just more guys or defensive backs, but more guys to

754
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: play special teams. It's kind of curious to me. It's

755
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: actually kind of curious to me that the league made

756
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: this rule and specified offensive linemen because of all the

757
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: positions in football, offensive line and probably quarterback are probably

758
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: the last of the positions that don't rotate. You look

759
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: at all the other positions in the NFL, for the

760
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 1: most part, most teams rotate those guys, and you would

761
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: think if they were gonna have extra reinforcements per game

762
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: day in order to give more more bodies that you

763
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: can throw at plays. Again, especially if you're going to

764
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Speaker 1: increase to an additional game to seventeen regular season games,

765
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: it would seem to me that you would actually want

766
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: to specify those players maybe at other positions rather than

767
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: offensive line. Seems a little curious to me. Well, you know,

768
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: at least for the Cowboys. I mean, you've seen sich

769
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: Martin getting hurt during a game. We know Connor Williams

770
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Speaker 1: has gotten hurt and us and we don't have Xaviers

771
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Speaker 1: to a fielt anymore. Tyren Smith is another guy that

772
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Speaker 1: has struggled with injuries. I'm not saying they're not gonna

773
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Speaker 1: be fully healthy this year or anything, but those are

774
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: already three guys within the offensive line that are starters

775
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: that to me, I'm always concerned now whether or not

776
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: they could get injured in the middle of the game.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe that helps at least with

778
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But to me, I don't see it as

779
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: something bad. I think I think that's exactly why they

780
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: they're doing it, is because those injuries inside the game,

781
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: and they don't want players to be like make choices

782
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783
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 1: you're the only guard we've got, you know, and they

784
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,080
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785
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: could see the same thing being said about quarterbacks. Honestly,

786
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise me if they did that where you know,

787
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: you got to have three quarterbacks active, but or at

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Speaker 1: least in uniform. You know they have done that in

789
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Speaker 1: gets taken away and it really feels like a part

849
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: of my life is kind of empty. So it's good

850
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: to get on here for an hour with you guys

851
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: and talk football. I'm enjoying, all right, Amber, you have

852
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: a game for us, which you guys, all right, you

853
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: guys ready, So this is this is the game. What

854
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We have I have a set of

855
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: ten questions, some of the things we've already talked about,

856
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: but that's okay, we'll still hit on them. The first question,

857
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: so there are two questions. One question is going to

858
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: be a personal question. You're gonna write down your answer

859
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: on a piece of paper and then just show it

860
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: on screen as soon as I'm done asking the second question.

861
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: So when I'm done asking the second question, you show

862
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: your answer on screen, and then we'll discuss that second

863
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: question out loud. It'll make sense in a little bit.

864
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: So let's just get started. So like a ninety eight

865
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: percent chance I'm gonna screw this up, but it's fine,

866
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: ready to go. It'll be fine. We won't discuss your

867
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: your personal answer personal question out loud. We'll just have

868
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: fans look at it on screen and that's it. Okay,

869
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: just try it. Yeah, yeah, we'll have some fun here.

870
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: We'll all right. First question, what you're gonna write down

871
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: on a piece of paper which NFL team has gained

872
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: the most in this free agency? So to you which

873
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: NFL team has gained the most during this free agency? Now,

874
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: the question that we're about to this cause is what

875
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: would be the best acquisition that the Cowboys have made

876
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: during this free agency? So you can lift up your

877
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: answer the first question. Wait, so we lift up we

878
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: lift up our answer for the first question. Yeah, just

879
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: show it on screen, and as you show it, just

880
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: live it there a few seconds, just so fans can

881
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: look at it and see your answer. But then we're

882
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: gonna got it. Now we're gonna talk about the best

883
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: acquisition for the Cowboys during this free agency. Who would

884
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: you say, is your your guy that you thought that

885
00:46:54,080 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys definitely needed for this year? All right? You know,

886
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: I think I think McCoy, Gerald McCoy, if he you know,

887
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: can be the player that he's been. But I mean

888
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: he continues to get sacks from that position, So I

889
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, losing Malie Collins and getting Gerald McCoy, I

890
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: think that's one position where I think they have made

891
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: an upgrade. I know Collins is younger, but I still

892
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: think he's never going to be the player that Gerald

893
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: McCoy was or he is. So I would say McCoy

894
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: is is the best guy they've done, our best edition

895
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: so far. I absolutely agree with that. I don't think

896
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: it's even close right now. I think once they signed,

897
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: or if they get the deal done finalized with Don

898
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: Terry poev and I think he got a little more

899
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: of a conversation, but I think as of now it

900
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: has to be Gerald McCoy agreed unanimous. I know that's boring,

901
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: but it's all good. Will. So we's going through all

902
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: these questions? Can I quit? All right? Hey there you

903
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: got quick though, real quick though, Can I just back up?

904
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm interested to know why. I know why Nick and

905
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: I chose Arizona because obviously they got the best. Did

906
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: you know I listened to the rules here? Did you

907
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: not listen to the rules of the game? Okay, but

908
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: go ahead, every sort? Why why? Why is that? No? No,

909
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: I get that. I want to know what Dave said

910
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens. What what about the Ravens stands out to

911
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: you most? Honestly, I just think it's incredible that they

912
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: got Klais Campbell for a fifth round pick, Like that's

913
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: just such an insane value. And you add a guy

914
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: who's that talented to what was already a pretty good defense,

915
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: you know. I mean they were the best team in

916
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: the AFC last year. Um, I don't even know the

917
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: rest of what they did. Uh, it might not be great,

918
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: but adding a guy like that to a team that's

919
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: already that talented is pretty impressive. Yeah, exciting? All right,

920
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: Sorry to delil the game. No, it's all good. Personal question,

921
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: your favorite player of all time? Meanwhile, what would you

922
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: say any team n okay, any tea. I mean, you

923
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: can't just any team Calvoy is anything you want? Favorite

924
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: player of all time? And then the question that we're

925
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: going to discuss, what would you say is the biggest

926
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: loss for the Cowboys during this free agency? Y'all are

927
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: gonna hate my answer. You're gonna think I'm stupid. All right,

928
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: So biggest loss loss, it's easily. How is your biggest one,

929
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: Robbie Quinn, I agree, Robert Quinn. They don't have any

930
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: pass rushers. I agree. I'm sorry I keep slandering Grandy Gregory,

931
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: but they don't have any pass rushers. And it's who's

932
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: your guy? I can't see that. Who is it? Dave?

933
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to see it right now? I'm sorry. Sorry.

934
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: You can go back and listen to the watch the

935
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: show later. You are looking at the right cameras. But

936
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: it's fine, yeah, right, okay, you know, regards to the

937
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: with regards to the guy that they lost. I actually

938
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: think the interesting thing here is that Randall Cobb. I

939
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: think you have more ability to be able to replace

940
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb than you do, um Robert Quinn. I think

941
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: there are more options out there, especially if you look

942
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: at the draft. We've talked about this over and over.

943
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 1: There are tons of guys in the draft wide receivers

944
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: that are really good players that you can get even

945
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: later in the draft. And you know, my guy Duverne

946
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: is still gonna be out there and available. I would

947
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: assume third maybe fourth round. So I think they're good

948
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: quality options, good quality options to replace Cobb. I don't

949
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: know that you have those kinds of options to replace

950
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. That's gonna be a hard replacement. Yeah, I

951
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: think though, I mean, those guys it's still a committee though.

952
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: I still think you know that they've done a decent job.

953
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: And Tom Sewela, I think can can figure that out.

954
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: Byron Jones to me, like, what are they doing at corner?

955
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: That's to me, that's the problem is because the reason

956
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: why Iron Jones had all these great stats, it's because

957
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: everyone threw over to Cheeto all the time. So now

958
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: he's your main guy, Like, that's that worries me a

959
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: little bit. I think I think the biggest loss is

960
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. Yeah, all right, all right, personal question, favorite

961
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: TV show at the moment? Now, what would you say

962
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: the moment too? Is the top draft priority for the

963
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys as of right now, looking at what they currently

964
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: have on their list and the current guys that they've

965
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: signed so far, what would be the top draft priority.

966
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: Reference made one reference. Of course, it's my favorite. Nick

967
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: just said it. I think it has, at least for me.

968
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: It's it's cornerback. I just don't know if the player

969
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be there that can give you the value

970
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: you need where you're picking. But I think cornerback is

971
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: probably your biggest, your piggot, your biggest draft need at

972
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: this point, because you don't have even if you talk

973
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: about by committee right now, Anthony Brown's gonna be starting

974
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: for you. I would assume I don't know if I'm

975
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 1: all that excited about that, and I make my pitch,

976
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: Sure pick, you better not say a wide receiver. Oh

977
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say wide receiver. And I'll tell you why.

978
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: At seventeen. You can draft a cornerback. You could draft CJ. Henderson.

979
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: He'll probably be like part of a committee. Like the

980
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: odds that a guy that is drafting seventeenth overall is

981
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 1: just handling his side of the field from day one,

982
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: totally possible, not a slam dunk. The same thing goes

983
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: for edge rusher. I'm a big fan of Calevan Jason.

984
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: If he's there, you can do that. He's got sky

985
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: high athleticism and potential, still probably gonna need a year

986
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: of seasoning. If you draft cde Lam, he's starting right away,

987
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns and moving inside and outside and making the

988
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: Dallas offense that much better. The chance that tribute in

989
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: meaningful way right away is just a lot better than

990
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: a defender. And obviously drafts are about more than just

991
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But that's your best bet to improve this

992
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: team right away in my opinion. You know, I just

993
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: think I just think that's a different answer to the question.

994
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: I mean about the biggest need, because you're overlooking the need,

995
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: which is fine. I mean that that's what they do.

996
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: You're you're you're going with best available player, which is

997
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: exactly what Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones is gonna tell us.

998
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: So if that's what they do, it sounds like all

999
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: those receivers are going to be there. But that's not that.

1000
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: The question was like the biggest need, and I think

1001
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: the biggest need is it still corner another But that

1002
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you reached for it if it's not there.

1003
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: So Dave defense wins games. We hear this over and

1004
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: over and championship? Who just won the Super Bowl? All right?

1005
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: Moving up to the next questions. Moving up to the

1006
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: next question. Do you have toilet paper? Write it down

1007
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: on your sheet of paper? Oh, I don't know if

1008
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: you want to divulge if you don't like all right? What? Um?

1009
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: We kind of talked about this already, got it right there.

1010
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna use it as a prop. Actually it's

1011
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: for my phone here, but toilet paper for like a weekend. Oh,

1012
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: it's been a running joke between me and Dave. Anything

1013
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: was going on, I was, I was at the store looking,

1014
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: but I got it. I found it. Um, I'm sorry.

1015
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: What was the question? What position should be addressed before

1016
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: the draft? We kind of mentioned this a little bit,

1017
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: but what would you say is a position that definitely

1018
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: needs to be addressed before the draft? Of everything I'm

1019
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: seeing out there, I think they could address defensive end.

1020
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: It's just a question of whether they want to. I mean,

1021
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: we talked about some of the names that are out there,

1022
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: was some Griffin and jadeveon Clowney and you know, and

1023
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: even if they want to go the route of bringing

1024
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: back on Michael Bennett if he's not going to retire.

1025
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: I think there are options out there at defensive end.

1026
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if those numbers work for them or not,

1027
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: but I do think there are some options there, and

1028
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: there are options that I think a step in day

1029
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: one and be starters and give you good production. I

1030
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: probably would say corner. I mean, I think you could

1031
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: if there's another one corner out there. I don't know

1032
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: Zaer RhoD still out there. Oh yeah, but I don't

1033
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: want him. I believe he is, Yeah, I don't. I

1034
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm sold on that. He did not

1035
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: play well last year at all at all? The thing

1036
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: for me, right, all right, I agree with everything y'all

1037
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: just said. But I mean, they've signed two cornerbacks, not

1038
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 1: actually three if you count C. J. Goodwin. Not trying

1039
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: to convince anybody that they're the legion of boom, but

1040
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: they have bodies, which that's what they do, right like

1041
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: they fill the position so that they can draft purely.

1042
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: They haven't really done that at wide receiver, which I

1043
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 1: can talk all I want about ceedee Lamb. I don't

1044
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: really expect that to happen, but right now they don't

1045
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: have like a proven veteran slot like I know, Cedric

1046
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: Wilson is still kicking around, Devin Smith is kicking around. Like.

1047
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: There's guys on the roster, but you would expect them, yeah, John,

1048
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean there's guys, but not guys that have done it,

1049
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: which is what you would expect. The thing is is

1050
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: there's just there are not very many like capable receivers

1051
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 1: left on the market. It is pretty barren. So I've

1052
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: got an eye on that. I'm curious to see what

1053
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: they do. All right. Personal question, what do you miss

1054
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: the most as of right now? Since we're in lockdown,

1055
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: and the question would be, we know the linebacker group,

1056
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: what that's like as of now? You know, they're pretty

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00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: much similar to last year, and last year they did

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00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: it necessarily perform how we expected them too. What are

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00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 1: your expectations now for this twenty twenty with the linebacker group?

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00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: I think I think the linebackers, I mean that's the

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00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: one position where there's not a lot of change at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like they I'm kind of surprised they brought

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00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: everybody back um topped about it. I mean, does anybody

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00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: else think that it's kind of weird that the one

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00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: position that was really bad last year. I mean the

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00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: one area was special teams, and they everybody's pretty much back.

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00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: The core players of the linebackers were back. See J

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00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: Goodwin was back. I mean, I guess not the punt returners,

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00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean deep snapper he wasn't the problem.

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00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: He's back, and kickers back, and the punter looks like

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: he's just seems kind of weird. But like that's not

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Speaker 1: answering your question. But I just think all the linebackers

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00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: that they brought back, I mean, is everyone. If everyone's healthy,

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00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: then there's not gonna be a lot of change there.

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00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a sneaky need though. I think it's

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00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: an underrated need that the Cowboys need to address in

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00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: the draft. Is getting a linebacker in the third or

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00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: fourth round. Can I ask you a question, Yeah, how many?

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Speaker 1: How many of those guys? Because I've heard this floated

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00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I don't know how I feel about it.

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00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys signed don Terry Poem and they, in

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00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: fact they brought back all these linebackers, does it at

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00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: all signal to you that there is a possibility that

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00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: they'll be playing more three four than four three next

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00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: year is now not to me, Yeah, I think it

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00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: signals that they're tired of their linebackers getting getting hit

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00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: by guards and centers, and they're trying to play it

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00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: a different way. I think signing Poe and McCoy to me,

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00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: suggests that they're they're gonna they're gonna go with the

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00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: four man front. And you know, McCarthy has said as much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of said that it will be

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00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: a four man front. So, um, I guess those two

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00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,959
Speaker 1: guys could rotate as the one in a three four.

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00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna play together. I think it's

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00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a four three. I just think you're gonna

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00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: have a bigger, bigger line. Well, I do think if

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: they if they were to go to three four, I

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00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: think McCoy would be a defensive end. He seems to

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00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: have that typical three four defensive end build. But again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's necessarily the way it goes.

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00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering aloud. You know, I've heard people kind

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00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: of speculating there, and I do wonder if if maybe

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00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: there's a shade of that involved. We obviously wouldn't know

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00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: that until we get to training camp, we start seeing

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00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I think you can go get an

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00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: idea if you turn on the tape of Carolina, Like

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00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: they they were multiple. They did a lot of both

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00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: Poe and McCoy. Poe played the vast majority of his

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00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: snaps as a one technique in a four three front,

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00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: but they did place in three four where McCoy wasn't

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00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: end and Poe played nose tackle, and they kicked their

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01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: linebackers out wide. Like I think you'll see a little

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01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: bit of that. I think you can get multiple. You

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01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: can use Jalen Smith as a rush linebacker, but I

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01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: think they'll be a four or three front the vast

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01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: majority of the time. I think Nick's right. I think

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01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: you look at the tape and you're like, man, how

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01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: can we get more out of Jayalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh. Well,

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01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: if we get these offensive linemen off their ass by

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Speaker 1: beefing up the front the defensive front, they'll probably be better.

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Speaker 1: Which my expectations are that they are great because Layton

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01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: Vanderesh was great when he was healthy as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: Jaalen Smith should be much better again. And if he's

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01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: got that ability to move in space and make plays.

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Speaker 1: Just looking at it on paper, they're still one of

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01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: the most talented units on the team. Mike Nolan is

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01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: a defensive specialist. He coached linebackers for the Saints for

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Damario O'Davis was amazing for

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01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: them while Nolan was there. So my expectation is that

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Speaker 1: they're going to be really good. I mean, it's to

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01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: live up to it, but that's what I expect. That's

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01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: really an interesting point, David. I actually that's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why I hope the Cowboys can go out

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01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: either in free agency and get a veteran pass rusher

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01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: like Griffin or get if he's available to him. Jay

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01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: saw it in the draft, because I think if they

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01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: can get that final piece, that other defensive end that

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01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: they're now adding the tank, and now they're adding to

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01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: these huge bodies there in the middle that they'll have

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01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: where these linebackers can really run. I think it actually

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01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: makes the secondary a ton better because you'll actually may

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: be able to get some pass rush, you may be

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01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: able to do some things. You can make teams one dimensional,

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01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: whereas right now last year they were not stopping to

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01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: run consistently enough to be able to force teams to

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01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: have to throw the ball. And so I think if

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01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: you can do those things, if you can really solidify

1148
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,479
Speaker 1: that line up front, I think it makes your whole

1149
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: defense a ton better. And that's where they get better.

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01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: It may not be in actually adding more talent necessarily

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01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: to the secondary right now, as much as it is

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01:01:53,800 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: beefing up that front. Well, we've kind of out of

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01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: time already. I don't know if you want to keep,

1154
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: but like one last question or just call it quits.

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: If you got another question, let's roll with it, all right?

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01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: Personal question? What is your favorite road game? Um? And

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01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: then so you said road game? Where are we talking

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01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: here in general? Where are you like traveling to the

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01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: most when we get back on Yeah, got it already, already,

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01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: have one done, all right, we'll show it to the

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01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: camera then, and then for the question. Um, some of

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01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: these things we've already talked about. But let's just go

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01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: ahead and do you want a Dak question or an

1164
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: offensive line question? Let's go back. We haven't talked Dack today,

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01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: all right? Well, well it's very simple. What's up with

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01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: that's what is going on with this Dak situation? What

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01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:04,959
Speaker 1: is up with Derek Prescott. We know that. Yeah, that's yeah,

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01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: they're You're right. So is there a timeline and expectations

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01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: when when we should be kind of hoping or expecting

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01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: this whole deal to be done. The actually talked about

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01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: this well, we talked about it last week and it's

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01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting because the leverage in this

1173
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: whole situation is out the window, like kind of similar

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01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: to Tank last year. You know, Tank's deal got done

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01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: in April instead of July because he had a surgery

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01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: and they wanted to make sure he was as right

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01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: as he could possibly be, and it spurred them to

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: action earlier than they needed to. Dak's leverage is not

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01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: showing up for the offseason program, so that starts April six,

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01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: if Dak is serious about not being in the building

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01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: until then, if Weaving have an offseason program. No, that's

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01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: the point I'm getting to is it's out. It's gone there,

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01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: That leverage is gone. Yeah, because right now players can't

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01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: come in the building anyway. We don't know when OTAs

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01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: are going to start. We don't know what the deal

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01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: is with captain's workouts mini camp right now. Who knows,

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01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully, but who knows if training camp is

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01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: even going to start at the regularly scheduled times, So

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01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: it's hard to get a grass because you know, before

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01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: all this happened, before we all had to go home,

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01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: I would have said, you know, this will be done

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01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: by mid April, because they're not going to mess around

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01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: with their franchise quarterback not being in the building for

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01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: the start of a new regime's offseason program. That would

1195
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: be silly. But if nobody can go into the building anyway,

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01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: who the hell knows. So your guest is as good

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01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: as mine right now. So here's the question then that

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Speaker 1: if there is no offseason program or modified offseason program,

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01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: then training camp becomes even more important. Do you think

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01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: that would be willing to do what Zeke did and

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01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: sit out training camp because that would be a huge deal,

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01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: which act and I gotta I gotta give him credit.

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01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: Jesse Holley made a great point last week that the

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01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: lack of knowledge about when this is all going to

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01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: start should give the Cowboys, it should spur them to

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01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: even more action, because when that switch gets flipped and

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: everybody can go back to work, you're gonna want your

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01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback to be part of that Um, I think

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01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: I've said, but I would have I would have to

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01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: see Dak actually hold out to believe that he would

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01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: do it, But I can't rule it out. Yeah, I

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01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: don't see that happening with Dak. I gotta remember he

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01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: might not love playing on the franchise tag, but at

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, if he does play this

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01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: year on the franchise tag, he's got something to prove

1216
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: as well, because this is a contract year. So you know,

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01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: and and Derek, you say it more than anybody, especially

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: about you know, running backs, but I'm sure it's the

1219
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: same with quarterbacks. Not being there for training camp is

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01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: not going to help you be the player that you

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: want to be in a contract year, in a major

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01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: contract here, So he's got that's a risky thing. It's

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01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: not just holding out and saying, oh, good luck with

1224
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: Cooper Russ, because it won't be Cooper Rush. It would

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01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: be somebody else that they bring in. Jamis all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you setting up the game Amber. That was

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Speaker 1: really entertaining, really fun. We'll do that again next week,

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: but that's the end of our time. We appreciate all

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01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: you guys took some time to day to jump on

1230
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Speaker 1: with us, talk a little bit of Cowboys football. We'll

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01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: be back next week on Wednesday, probably still in the

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01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: same format. I think we're gonna be doing this for

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01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: a bit, but we'll see, we'll see. We all play

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: it by ear. We hope you guys stay safe till then.

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Speaker 1: For Nick even, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. I am

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas

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