WEBVTT - From Atlanta To The Grave 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.080 There was rooms going around that they were gonna kill us, 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:04.240 and there was gonna be a bomb in our house, 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:06.400 and there's gonna blow it up, and all kind of 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:08.520 stories started coming out. Now I got to defend my 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.520 dad in school when everybody else is saying, you know 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:14.840 your dad did that. They're saying, man, your dad robbed 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.880 those people. Man, they're gonna kill y'all. Glass, They're gonna 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.759 kill y'all. They go to New Orland. The dead the 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.600 way to able to come fire. All the jurors that 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.840 they were taking. You might will be long for come up. Somebody, 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.960 someone gonna surface somewhere literally was found shutting the head 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.839 and the wolf was found to the knights in the side. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.400 I got a call about three or four block in 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:48.360 the morning say yeah for your boys, just gonna kill 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:54.040 kill from my heart radio and doghouse pictures. This is 0:00:54.120 --> 0:01:02.560 fight night. I'm Jeff Keaton. Chicken Man was in New 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.679 York getting assurances from Frank Molten and other high level 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:10.880 gangsters that he and his family were safe, but he 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.440 had to get back to Atlanta to reassure them because 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:19.720 the newspapers were telling a different story altogether. Around that 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.520 same time, Hudson and Amos had received a tip about 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.400 an apartment used by the robbers before and after the heist. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:32.399 The detectives got a search warrant and investigated the premises. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.639 Here's j D with me in two thousand and two 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:41.760 as he recalls the details. We look at the parting, 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.640 but they are assembled, and I think they looking around 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:51.360 who the parting was because we went to the part 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:57.640 then that night was day okay, and you see how 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:01.200 we are sitting out. Yeah, cigarette out of the sugar 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.480 and cigure. Yeah, your looks all of a sudden lack 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.880 of black. We would have disappeared. The very things it 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:14.600 is like we did disappeared when you guys got there, 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.639 it looked like that. Yeah, was there still a cigarette burning? No? No, 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:25.560 well folded diapers and I'm pullded diapers, babies, baby backers 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.600 okay on the bed all right. That was on the 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:37.440 kicken table that was confuted fried chicken in place, partially eaten. Okay, drinks, 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:41.600 possive men high. I tracked the pope or somebody eating 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.480 month fiece off. A matter of fact, when you're in 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.120 the holes, steel full of drivers acts ut on the table. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.640 It just last which sharps me that when the hustle 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:56.040 came down Jackson Parkway and tried to get into proper, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.120 they looked back to when they saw him and got 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.839 a macau and took off. Okay, okay, so you think 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.679 that all that stuff that you were just describing was 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.560 left from that night, the night of the robbery. Oh yeah, 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.960 how we heard Mr Hudson. That's like they just disappeared. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:15.160 They saw it, and then I think it's their hell 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.400 get Those guys have known how to get into the 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:23.280 department to the right, but they went down to the 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.240 wrong street. Gut j D told me that the robbers 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:31.119 had a lookout on the walkway outside of the Stash apartment. 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.200 He would have seen any cars turning from High Tower 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:40.280 Road into the parking lot directly below them. Once the 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:44.320 lookout spotted the gangsters, the robbers quickly grabbed the loot 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.800 and ran down the back staircase to their getaway cars 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.640 and sped away on Jackson Parkway. Imagine the panic and 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:58.480 chaos of that scene. And they went on and read 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.600 the at least one because Rick and Ridable right for 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.440 the black tip, and they took off with the money, 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.600 and they would go up again when I write. At 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:16.320 the apartment, Hudson found James Henry Hall's driver's license and 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.760 bed sheets that matched pillow cases which were found at 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:24.560 the crime scene at Handy Drive. These pillow cases were 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.120 discovered in the duffel bag recovered by the police and 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.799 were used to collect and haul the cash and jewelry 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:35.279 stolen from the party goers. Here's more about the investigation 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.400 from j D. Let me get back to this thing. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.800 You've talked to You've made him, and I'm sorry you've 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.400 You've talked to this guy for a guy has spilled 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.679 his guys, and it's thank you to keep him in prisident, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.799 to keep him alive. The apartment has obviously been left, 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.040 everything just sitting there because ran I haven't good way 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.280 and I got panicked they were, and now you're on 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.880 the news trying to convince basically the nation and the 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.800 city the Chicken man wasn't responsible for this, to keep 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.279 him alive, even though the Atlanta Fleet and the FBI 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.160 are saying that he did and was responsible. See, I 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.920 would not ever talked to the FBI because I knew 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.040 they were gonna try to take credit anything we did. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.640 And they started stuff about some guy that called it 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.640 bought some guys in Jackson Villa who was opposed of 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.920 committed to rob. And then there were some guys out 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.840 of apronment him fbick n. What they gave me, the 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:35.160 pictures and everything. These are the guys. We got good information. 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.400 They committed to right and I said bullshit. It seemed 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.440 like they were trying to commence us to They had 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.040 some information out at Baltimore that somebody at the baltimoreket it, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.840 I said, bullshit. Anytime there's a high flow file case 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.800 in this country, FBI runs by in Hollis at you 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.520 sit around and listen to what you work and try 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.560 to get in on your interviews. He runs backers office, 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.600 right and right, a bit of port that he's done, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.720 and when you lock up, somebody d writes his quote 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:09.520 back who he called. Okay, the paper shuffles, you know, 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.760 and most place don't I have thing to do with them, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:17.000 because they surrounded. They's they they still just get cases. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.520 So the high profile case attracted them, and they came 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.280 with all these theories, you know, their profiles and all 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.400 these lab explace, all these experts to have all of 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.719 the game. They played again, those fellow dollarsm But they 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.120 don't they you know, because they this what the pup 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.840 is to. J D did not have fond memories of 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.760 working with the FBI. In fact, he didn't seem to 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.760 respect them either, even though they were all over this case. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.760 J D kept the details of the investigation close to 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:53.080 the vest. He and Joe Amos continue to pursue all leads, 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.599 waiting for breaking the case. Nothing happened for a while, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:06.120 and amazon daughter got Keith. Remember Emerson Dorsey. He was 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.960 born in Atlanta and moved to New York City about 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.800 a decade before the robbery. He became a drug dealer 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.440 and a stick up man, and he was driven out 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.280 of New York by a combination of pressure from Shirley Chisholm, 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.640 the New York state representative, and the black mafia he 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:28.200 had somehow piste off. J D believed that Emerson put 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.200 together the crew who pulled off the heist as a 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.680 means for getting back in New York's black mafia. But 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:39.360 in the end they got to him. He was keeled 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.960 at his home and they would investigating, and so I 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.760 had his interests. I called out and talked to the 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.360 investigator basic over that this still sus says. She was 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:55.240 talking about alone and someone knocked on the door, and 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.520 he said, hold on a minute, baby, somebody's on the door. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.440 They the phone down. I went to the door and yo. 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.800 The said come in man, I'm glad to see you, amte. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.360 But while come on the end and uh, Baton told us, 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.680 and she's up random as here. I talked to you later. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.600 Well later he was found shot in the head. You know. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.640 One was found cut. She was cut across her rest, 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:27.040 across her stomach. Nice steps too, nice stuff those sides. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:34.280 She was dead. What said means that faith talk at 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:40.960 Garth right and made him tell about the rock at once. 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.760 Pep told about the round to kill? Where did that 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:50.079 take place? In his home? Indicator georgan indicator Jorge. So 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:56.559 they found his body shot and her body light and 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.839 sat in the next they actually found the body to 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:11.480 get up okay in his own Here are some of 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:15.719 the specifics from an Atlantic Constitution article. On March five, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.960 Dorsey had been shot in the back of the head 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.160 and above the right eye. He had also been slashed 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:28.160 across the face with a knife. His girlfriend was Rachel Worthy. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.720 She was found with four butcher knives buried in her body, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.920 one between the shoulder blades, one in the neck, and 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:41.040 two in her chest. When relatives called about the bodies 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:45.000 after stopping at the house, police noted that they'd been 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:51.240 dead for some time. Police also said that Dorsey's Cadillac 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:58.360 was missing. Here's what j D thought, so amazed that 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.880 you got a son was forced to pay us somebody 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:09.040 and when he told they killed and I think they 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:18.199 had to data babill Baby Humphred. Baby Ray Humphrey was 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.480 one of the robbers we told you about from the 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:25.120 last episode. We believe he was working under fast Eddie 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:29.720 Parker's command, but j D thinks it was Emerson Dorsey 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.520 who recruited him at Wesley Merritt's pool Hall, along with 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:38.000 another hustler named Charles Lee. This was his response when 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.560 I asked him where Baby Ray Humphrey and Charles Lee 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:46.520 were killed in Atlanta somewhere and had shot Okay and 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.080 had at about the ton of the sty and Sharley 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:56.480 nobody remember what over somewhere around the stadium. This is 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:01.959 from the Atlantic Constitution, March nineteen seventy one, about three 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:06.959 weeks after Emerson Dorsey was killed, Baby Ray Humphrey had 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:11.000 been shot in the left temple execution style and had 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.679 been dead for several days. When police entered his apartment. 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:19.400 Baby Ray had a six page arrest record, including recent 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.760 narcotics charges. In addition to the thirty five thousand j 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:27.439 D mentioned, about two hundred thousand dollars worth of heroin 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.160 was also found stashed in a motorcycle in his apartment. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.640 We've been unable to find much information about Charles Lee's murder, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.120 and when I spoke to j D again, I learned 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:52.000 why I know bad it was killing there. Nobody gave 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:56.160 a damn about black killings, a powerful statement that still 0:11:56.240 --> 0:12:03.040 resonates in today's society. Baby Ray Humphrey had thirty five 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:07.520 dollars cash and two hundred thousand dollars in heroin, and 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.360 his killers didn't even look for it. Charles Lee was 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.040 killed and no one seemed to notice, least of all 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:20.240 the newspapers. We can't find anything about his murder. Bookie 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.439 Brown was dead. We think Lillian Dabney was killed with him. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:29.000 So the robbers still on the run were James Henry Hall, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:34.720 McKinley Rogers, and fast Eddie Parker. We assumed they were 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.280 on their way to New York to connect with Richard 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:41.199 Wheeler and split the take. Here's Chicken Man and j 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:45.720 D discussing the huge obstacle they would face to fence 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.800 the jewelry they had stolen, all the jury stuff that 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.360 were taken. It weren't gonna be long for a come 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:57.679 up somebody. Someone're gonna surface somewhere. Uh, that would indicate 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.880 somebody as I'm gonna do it because it took some 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.440 brains and watches and women. Julry was cost of out 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:08.320 of money. So now what pawn broker, so running the risk. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:14.240 I've given somebody some money on some jewelry and the 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.760 guy who told him a jar to come to that punch, Yeah, 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.000 gonna pay him with you. You're gonna take his goddamn 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.000 j you know, send his boys that to take his 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.280 goddamn Jerry. Don't take his mine. If you didn't like it, 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.640 if you didn't like the stuff was too hot. Fin 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.760 about the day it was too hot, and that they 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.800 couldn't do anything with this step. Okay, that's what doesn't 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.719 That's one of the things to the next meet. J 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.719 D knew it was useless looking at pawn shops for 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:44.880 the stolen jewelry. No pawnbroker would touch loot that hot. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.199 There as an article at which I would reported that. 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.559 I told him, then they better come and find me. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.559 Give up. But I think's got a guy. J D 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.320 searched for the robbers, what the black moth, It did 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.880 the same. He wanted them alive and in jail. But 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:09.960 these gangsters like Frank Moten wanted them dead. It wasn't 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:14.040 about the money, it was about retribution. Here's j D 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.600 in two thousand and two sharing details about where they 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:22.280 went after they high tailed it out of Atlanta. Okay, 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.240 remember Tea, what happened? Mean Okay, I said they they 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.000 might go to Ester the dead. Okay, they go to 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:32.080 New Orleans, they dead. Miami, go to Mami they dead. Okay, 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.400 go to Birmingham, they dead. So we're saying if they 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.400 got way able to come to sign them and so 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.280 we had decided they were going to go to the 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.320 Jatil Islands and see if they said if I was 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.160 they might go to Jack and Math for a while. 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.280 Would you be that they didn't go to not to 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:55.320 but they went to Assigns. No, they humber to uh Brunswick. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:59.640 George Brunswick, Brunswill is us right here there. A business 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:04.880 owner in Brunswick apparently became suspicious when McKinley Rogers and 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.080 other members in his crew spent wads of cash in 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:12.800 the shop, so he called the cops. Local police found 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.760 out that McKinley Rogers and James Henry Hall used to 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.080 be classmates in Brunswick, and when they heard about the 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.880 robbery in Atlanta, they called j d's departments. JO and 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.800 I had started to go to JACKI al Allden and 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.920 look for because he said that if they smiled, they 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.480 went to someone at jackil Allend to someplace go hide. 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.360 I put well, and the truth matter is they did. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.520 They went to Brunswick, Georgia, because that's near west. Some 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.760 of the guys who robbers lived grew up. I mean, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.640 and I'll sit in office one day and this guy 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.800 called a corporate from the Brunswick Police Department called and 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.880 said that he read about their robbery in the Atlanta 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:58.600 newspaper and that there were about ten people at the 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:03.000 Holiday End who stayed that for about a week along 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:08.320 and they wouldn't come out. We're not sure who else 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:13.040 joined McKinley Rogers James Henry Hall and fast Eddie Parker 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.440 when they left Atlanta. But we do know they were 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.120 conspicuous when they wouldn't allow the cleaning crew to enter 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:24.640 any of their rooms at the hotel in Brunswick made it. 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.360 I think it's that eight rooms for five it was 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:33.160 five eight rooms, okay, not a man. And they went 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.600 out on a bank breath. They brought on a verything 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.720 and Brunswick go everything okay, and that when they at 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.080 that food, the servants had to send a food at 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.000 the door and leave they were dead and get it. Okay, 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.000 it wouldn't come out. But when they came out, they 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:59.360 brought up all the bubec and they left town. After 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.320 McKinley Rogers and his crew aroused suspicion in Brunswick, Georgia, 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:08.120 they decided to move on to a different city. According 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:12.080 to the Brunswick newspaper, two cops pulled them over on 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.080 their way out of town and got their identification, but 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:20.159 for some reason they let them go. J D and 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.320 Joe Amos were about to head to Brunswick, but they 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.560 got a call from the local police who informed them 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.480 that the robbers were gone and it would be a 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:34.040 wasted trip they went not on seventeen and a couple 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.920 of cards, one of which was the red product of 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.600 the back time wait, one of which was the what 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.240 was the red product for the black croc? Who that? 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:47.760 I guess In the meantime, I understand that about his mother, 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:54.920 A car riders his mother house. In one of Robin 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.680 Goorde it was a rape in the restroom got him birth. 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.280 The red Pontiac with the black top is the same 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.360 one j D described leaving the stash house, and one 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.280 witness said they saw the same car at the robbery 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:15.399 scene on Handy Drive. After the robbers left Brunswick, it 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.000 was a few months before they were seen again. Here's 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:25.080 j D and uh. Nobody dreamed these foods we'll go 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.760 to New York. But they did. And that's when I 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.320 said they're dead. They go to New York. They're dead 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.960 because they rode to Black Markeia in the Black Marpie 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.960 con killer. I got a call about three or four 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:43.280 o'clock in the morning. Guys say, lieutenant, yeah for your 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:49.560 boys just got killed. J D talked me through the 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.480 details of how McKinley Rogers and James Henry Hall were killed. 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:56.480 He found out there was a third man in the 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:01.080 car named David Phillips. We have no information about him 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:05.520 except he was from Brunswick, Georgia as well. We don't 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.040 know if he was involved in the robbery or just 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:12.359 picked up at some point. We also don't know how, 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.399 when or where these guys split from fast Eddie Parker. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:26.440 Here I am with j Dam food and drove in 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.560 front of oven Battles please quick as please? What look 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:40.840 still okay? And uh stop? So they go in front 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.080 of this liquor store in New York. Is it in 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:48.159 harm Boklyn? I got it down there? They drive in 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.600 baby Bam. They're all shot dead. They stopped. They going 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:57.160 to the buscle base. They did right, but the shot dead? Ye? Wrong? 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.920 Please right? And the shot that and so this is 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:07.639 why moving a heavy In retrospect, it looks like the 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:11.280 robbers were partying and spending loads of cash in the 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.440 establishments of the gangsters they robbed, and word got out 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:20.600 quickly who and where they were. Looking back in my notes, 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.560 the name j D just mentioned, Evan bin Um a 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.399 k a. Quickie, was the same name from an earlier 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.159 portion of my interview when j D asked me to 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:35.200 turn off the tape recorder. He only did that one time. 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.040 I vaguely remember him telling me that he went to 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:43.119 visit Quickie in a fancy hotel suite in Atlanta just 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.600 after the robbery, and that the suite was lined with 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:51.920 bodyguards carrying assault rifles. I remember thinking how crazy it 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.040 was that j D went there alone and didn't seem 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.480 to care that all these guys were brandishing weapons. He 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:03.920 was only interested in information about the robbery. In any case, 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:08.480 it seems like Quickie was one powerful gangster. J D 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.920 called the NYPD when he learned about who was murdered 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:16.119 in Brooklyn. So I called the pretty anything about it. 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.560 So he's an excited dad. He had to talk to 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:23.840 me high new about the MURDI pla they knew it 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:27.920 went out of that business, and I would talk to 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:29.880 a New York company anyway. He has a New York 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:34.200 Cops the others day the drugness in the streets. Okay, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.200 it's a strange world. You don't know who you're talking 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:41.200 about when you talk to the cop. This is a 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.240 recurring character trait j D exhibits over the years of 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.840 talking to him. He's passionately sure of himself and very 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:54.520 suspicious of everyone else. He surmises that the NYPD wanted 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.080 to talk to him about the murders because one of 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:01.200 their own had been at the heist. Andrew West, remember, 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.359 was one of only five people out of a hundred 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.479 or more to file a report with the Atlanta Police 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:12.359 after the robbery that night. West was a bodyguard for 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.560 one of the hustlers from New York. Many of these 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.960 gangsters had bodyguards. J D filled me in on more 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:22.720 details about how the robbers were killed and corrected some 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:28.399 of the media's misinformation about this incredible story. It's like 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:32.960 at times that journalists just didn't even care about the details. Here. 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.200 I am in two thousand and two surprised at the 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.719 facts j D is laid out for me. The research 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:45.840 my dad is done. According to him, these guys but Kenley, 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.920 James Houston and maybe one of the person were incited 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.600 on six accounts of whatever it is by the full 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:58.400 County grand jury by this attorney Lewis Late. Never happened. 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.479 These guys never invited there, so how did they? How 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:09.440 did the much said so they wouldn't they were never brought, 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.960 They couldn't be any would see them and maybe and 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.520 they okay. So those guys okay, and is that why 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:21.159 you told me it was a beautiful four people of 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.480 Warren and Roberts because I brought the bodies back down 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:28.480 rights got four peven one of abjority. The newspaper said 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.760 that Rogers and Hall were indicted along with Houston Hammond's 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:37.159 in late November nineteen seventy. Rogerson Hall were killed along 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:43.000 with Phillips on May ninety one, exactly seven months after 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:48.399 the robbery. In that time, Hayman's was arrested, charged and 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:52.920 convicted on possession of weapons. Rogers and Hall were running 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:56.800 from this indictment without even knowing it. Here's J. D. 0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:00.520 Hudson as we quickly recap, we're the last linings took 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.520 place the robbery. The head down to Brunswick, they head 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:07.280 up seven. We would sit activity, engaged and when they 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.040 were killed. Okay, So they stopped in front of this 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:15.080 only the name again of the liquor store. Gentleman's name 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:21.440 quick Quickie is what's his full name? Evan ma JD 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.320 assumed that the last killings occurred in front of Evan 0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:28.080 Bynham's place in Brooklyn, which would add to the long 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:35.840 list of dead robbers. Bookie Brown, Lillian Dabney, Baby Ray Humphrey, 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:43.520 Charles Lee, McKinley, Rogers and James Henry Hall. And since 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:47.520 Emerson Dorsey and this down woman had been murdered in Atlanta, 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:52.680 in his mind, the case was over. But what about 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:58.080 fast Eddie Parker, Richard Wheeler's enforcer. If gangsters like Evan 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:02.680 Bynum and Frank Moten, we're really that ruthless and they were, 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.240 there's no way they would ever stop searching. 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