Speaker 1: There was rooms going around that they were gonna kill us,
Speaker 1: and there was gonna be a bomb in our house,
Speaker 1: and there's gonna blow it up, and all kind of
Speaker 1: stories started coming out. Now I got to defend my
Speaker 1: dad in school when everybody else is saying, you know
Speaker 1: your dad did that. They're saying, man, your dad robbed
Speaker 1: those people. Man, they're gonna kill y'all. Glass, They're gonna
Speaker 1: kill y'all. They go to New Orland. The dead the
Speaker 1: way to able to come fire. All the jurors that
Speaker 1: they were taking. You might will be long for come up. Somebody,
Speaker 1: someone gonna surface somewhere literally was found shutting the head
Speaker 1: and the wolf was found to the knights in the side.
Speaker 1: I got a call about three or four block in
Speaker 1: the morning say yeah for your boys, just gonna kill
Speaker 1: kill from my heart radio and doghouse pictures. This is
Speaker 1: fight night. I'm Jeff Keaton. Chicken Man was in New
Speaker 1: York getting assurances from Frank Molten and other high level
Speaker 1: gangsters that he and his family were safe, but he
Speaker 1: had to get back to Atlanta to reassure them because
Speaker 1: the newspapers were telling a different story altogether. Around that
Speaker 1: same time, Hudson and Amos had received a tip about
Speaker 1: an apartment used by the robbers before and after the heist.
Speaker 1: The detectives got a search warrant and investigated the premises.
Speaker 1: Here's j D with me in two thousand and two
Speaker 1: as he recalls the details. We look at the parting,
Speaker 1: but they are assembled, and I think they looking around
Speaker 1: who the parting was because we went to the part
Speaker 1: then that night was day okay, and you see how
Speaker 1: we are sitting out. Yeah, cigarette out of the sugar
Speaker 1: and cigure. Yeah, your looks all of a sudden lack
Speaker 1: of black. We would have disappeared. The very things it
Speaker 1: is like we did disappeared when you guys got there,
Speaker 1: it looked like that. Yeah, was there still a cigarette burning? No? No,
Speaker 1: well folded diapers and I'm pullded diapers, babies, baby backers
Speaker 1: okay on the bed all right. That was on the
Speaker 1: kicken table that was confuted fried chicken in place, partially eaten. Okay, drinks,
Speaker 1: possive men high. I tracked the pope or somebody eating
Speaker 1: month fiece off. A matter of fact, when you're in
Speaker 1: the holes, steel full of drivers acts ut on the table.
Speaker 1: It just last which sharps me that when the hustle
Speaker 1: came down Jackson Parkway and tried to get into proper,
Speaker 1: they looked back to when they saw him and got
Speaker 1: a macau and took off. Okay, okay, so you think
Speaker 1: that all that stuff that you were just describing was
Speaker 1: left from that night, the night of the robbery. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: how we heard Mr Hudson. That's like they just disappeared.
Speaker 1: They saw it, and then I think it's their hell
Speaker 1: get Those guys have known how to get into the
Speaker 1: department to the right, but they went down to the
Speaker 1: wrong street. Gut j D told me that the robbers
Speaker 1: had a lookout on the walkway outside of the Stash apartment.
Speaker 1: He would have seen any cars turning from High Tower
Speaker 1: Road into the parking lot directly below them. Once the
Speaker 1: lookout spotted the gangsters, the robbers quickly grabbed the loot
Speaker 1: and ran down the back staircase to their getaway cars
Speaker 1: and sped away on Jackson Parkway. Imagine the panic and
Speaker 1: chaos of that scene. And they went on and read
Speaker 1: the at least one because Rick and Ridable right for
Speaker 1: the black tip, and they took off with the money,
Speaker 1: and they would go up again when I write. At
Speaker 1: the apartment, Hudson found James Henry Hall's driver's license and
Speaker 1: bed sheets that matched pillow cases which were found at
Speaker 1: the crime scene at Handy Drive. These pillow cases were
Speaker 1: discovered in the duffel bag recovered by the police and
Speaker 1: were used to collect and haul the cash and jewelry
Speaker 1: stolen from the party goers. Here's more about the investigation
Speaker 1: from j D. Let me get back to this thing.
Speaker 1: You've talked to You've made him, and I'm sorry you've
Speaker 1: You've talked to this guy for a guy has spilled
Speaker 1: his guys, and it's thank you to keep him in prisident,
Speaker 1: to keep him alive. The apartment has obviously been left,
Speaker 1: everything just sitting there because ran I haven't good way
Speaker 1: and I got panicked they were, and now you're on
Speaker 1: the news trying to convince basically the nation and the
Speaker 1: city the Chicken man wasn't responsible for this, to keep
Speaker 1: him alive, even though the Atlanta Fleet and the FBI
Speaker 1: are saying that he did and was responsible. See, I
Speaker 1: would not ever talked to the FBI because I knew
Speaker 1: they were gonna try to take credit anything we did.
Speaker 1: And they started stuff about some guy that called it
Speaker 1: bought some guys in Jackson Villa who was opposed of
Speaker 1: committed to rob. And then there were some guys out
Speaker 1: of apronment him fbick n. What they gave me, the
Speaker 1: pictures and everything. These are the guys. We got good information.
Speaker 1: They committed to right and I said bullshit. It seemed
Speaker 1: like they were trying to commence us to They had
Speaker 1: some information out at Baltimore that somebody at the baltimoreket it,
Speaker 1: I said, bullshit. Anytime there's a high flow file case
Speaker 1: in this country, FBI runs by in Hollis at you
Speaker 1: sit around and listen to what you work and try
Speaker 1: to get in on your interviews. He runs backers office,
Speaker 1: right and right, a bit of port that he's done,
Speaker 1: and when you lock up, somebody d writes his quote
Speaker 1: back who he called. Okay, the paper shuffles, you know,
Speaker 1: and most place don't I have thing to do with them,
Speaker 1: because they surrounded. They's they they still just get cases.
Speaker 1: So the high profile case attracted them, and they came
Speaker 1: with all these theories, you know, their profiles and all
Speaker 1: these lab explace, all these experts to have all of
Speaker 1: the game. They played again, those fellow dollarsm But they
Speaker 1: don't they you know, because they this what the pup
Speaker 1: is to. J D did not have fond memories of
Speaker 1: working with the FBI. In fact, he didn't seem to
Speaker 1: respect them either, even though they were all over this case.
Speaker 1: J D kept the details of the investigation close to
Speaker 1: the vest. He and Joe Amos continue to pursue all leads,
Speaker 1: waiting for breaking the case. Nothing happened for a while,
Speaker 1: and amazon daughter got Keith. Remember Emerson Dorsey. He was
Speaker 1: born in Atlanta and moved to New York City about
Speaker 1: a decade before the robbery. He became a drug dealer
Speaker 1: and a stick up man, and he was driven out
Speaker 1: of New York by a combination of pressure from Shirley Chisholm,
Speaker 1: the New York state representative, and the black mafia he
Speaker 1: had somehow piste off. J D believed that Emerson put
Speaker 1: together the crew who pulled off the heist as a
Speaker 1: means for getting back in New York's black mafia. But
Speaker 1: in the end they got to him. He was keeled
Speaker 1: at his home and they would investigating, and so I
Speaker 1: had his interests. I called out and talked to the
Speaker 1: investigator basic over that this still sus says. She was
Speaker 1: talking about alone and someone knocked on the door, and
Speaker 1: he said, hold on a minute, baby, somebody's on the door.
Speaker 1: They the phone down. I went to the door and yo.
Speaker 1: The said come in man, I'm glad to see you, amte.
Speaker 1: But while come on the end and uh, Baton told us,
Speaker 1: and she's up random as here. I talked to you later.
Speaker 1: Well later he was found shot in the head. You know.
Speaker 1: One was found cut. She was cut across her rest,
Speaker 1: across her stomach. Nice steps too, nice stuff those sides.
Speaker 1: She was dead. What said means that faith talk at
Speaker 1: Garth right and made him tell about the rock at once.
Speaker 1: Pep told about the round to kill? Where did that
Speaker 1: take place? In his home? Indicator georgan indicator Jorge. So
Speaker 1: they found his body shot and her body light and
Speaker 1: sat in the next they actually found the body to
Speaker 1: get up okay in his own Here are some of
Speaker 1: the specifics from an Atlantic Constitution article. On March five,
Speaker 1: Dorsey had been shot in the back of the head
Speaker 1: and above the right eye. He had also been slashed
Speaker 1: across the face with a knife. His girlfriend was Rachel Worthy.
Speaker 1: She was found with four butcher knives buried in her body,
Speaker 1: one between the shoulder blades, one in the neck, and
Speaker 1: two in her chest. When relatives called about the bodies
Speaker 1: after stopping at the house, police noted that they'd been
Speaker 1: dead for some time. Police also said that Dorsey's Cadillac
Speaker 1: was missing. Here's what j D thought, so amazed that
Speaker 1: you got a son was forced to pay us somebody
Speaker 1: and when he told they killed and I think they
Speaker 1: had to data babill Baby Humphred. Baby Ray Humphrey was
Speaker 1: one of the robbers we told you about from the
Speaker 1: last episode. We believe he was working under fast Eddie
Speaker 1: Parker's command, but j D thinks it was Emerson Dorsey
Speaker 1: who recruited him at Wesley Merritt's pool Hall, along with
Speaker 1: another hustler named Charles Lee. This was his response when
Speaker 1: I asked him where Baby Ray Humphrey and Charles Lee
Speaker 1: were killed in Atlanta somewhere and had shot Okay and
Speaker 1: had at about the ton of the sty and Sharley
Speaker 1: nobody remember what over somewhere around the stadium. This is
Speaker 1: from the Atlantic Constitution, March nineteen seventy one, about three
Speaker 1: weeks after Emerson Dorsey was killed, Baby Ray Humphrey had
Speaker 1: been shot in the left temple execution style and had
Speaker 1: been dead for several days. When police entered his apartment.
Speaker 1: Baby Ray had a six page arrest record, including recent
Speaker 1: narcotics charges. In addition to the thirty five thousand j
Speaker 1: D mentioned, about two hundred thousand dollars worth of heroin
Speaker 1: was also found stashed in a motorcycle in his apartment.
Speaker 1: We've been unable to find much information about Charles Lee's murder,
Speaker 1: and when I spoke to j D again, I learned
Speaker 1: why I know bad it was killing there. Nobody gave
Speaker 1: a damn about black killings, a powerful statement that still
Speaker 1: resonates in today's society. Baby Ray Humphrey had thirty five
Speaker 1: dollars cash and two hundred thousand dollars in heroin, and
Speaker 1: his killers didn't even look for it. Charles Lee was
Speaker 1: killed and no one seemed to notice, least of all
Speaker 1: the newspapers. We can't find anything about his murder. Bookie
Speaker 1: Brown was dead. We think Lillian Dabney was killed with him.
Speaker 1: So the robbers still on the run were James Henry Hall,
Speaker 1: McKinley Rogers, and fast Eddie Parker. We assumed they were
Speaker 1: on their way to New York to connect with Richard
Speaker 1: Wheeler and split the take. Here's Chicken Man and j
Speaker 1: D discussing the huge obstacle they would face to fence
Speaker 1: the jewelry they had stolen, all the jury stuff that
Speaker 1: were taken. It weren't gonna be long for a come
Speaker 1: up somebody. Someone're gonna surface somewhere. Uh, that would indicate
Speaker 1: somebody as I'm gonna do it because it took some
Speaker 1: brains and watches and women. Julry was cost of out
Speaker 1: of money. So now what pawn broker, so running the risk.
Speaker 1: I've given somebody some money on some jewelry and the
Speaker 1: guy who told him a jar to come to that punch, Yeah,
Speaker 1: gonna pay him with you. You're gonna take his goddamn
Speaker 1: j you know, send his boys that to take his
Speaker 1: goddamn Jerry. Don't take his mine. If you didn't like it,
Speaker 1: if you didn't like the stuff was too hot. Fin
Speaker 1: about the day it was too hot, and that they
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything with this step. Okay, that's what doesn't
Speaker 1: That's one of the things to the next meet. J
Speaker 1: D knew it was useless looking at pawn shops for
Speaker 1: the stolen jewelry. No pawnbroker would touch loot that hot.
Speaker 1: There as an article at which I would reported that.
Speaker 1: I told him, then they better come and find me.
Speaker 1: Give up. But I think's got a guy. J D
Speaker 1: searched for the robbers, what the black moth, It did
Speaker 1: the same. He wanted them alive and in jail. But
Speaker 1: these gangsters like Frank Moten wanted them dead. It wasn't
Speaker 1: about the money, it was about retribution. Here's j D
Speaker 1: in two thousand and two sharing details about where they
Speaker 1: went after they high tailed it out of Atlanta. Okay,
Speaker 1: remember Tea, what happened? Mean Okay, I said they they
Speaker 1: might go to Ester the dead. Okay, they go to
Speaker 1: New Orleans, they dead. Miami, go to Mami they dead. Okay,
Speaker 1: go to Birmingham, they dead. So we're saying if they
Speaker 1: got way able to come to sign them and so
Speaker 1: we had decided they were going to go to the
Speaker 1: Jatil Islands and see if they said if I was
Speaker 1: they might go to Jack and Math for a while.
Speaker 1: Would you be that they didn't go to not to
Speaker 1: but they went to Assigns. No, they humber to uh Brunswick.
Speaker 1: George Brunswick, Brunswill is us right here there. A business
Speaker 1: owner in Brunswick apparently became suspicious when McKinley Rogers and
Speaker 1: other members in his crew spent wads of cash in
Speaker 1: the shop, so he called the cops. Local police found
Speaker 1: out that McKinley Rogers and James Henry Hall used to
Speaker 1: be classmates in Brunswick, and when they heard about the
Speaker 1: robbery in Atlanta, they called j d's departments. JO and
Speaker 1: I had started to go to JACKI al Allden and
Speaker 1: look for because he said that if they smiled, they
Speaker 1: went to someone at jackil Allend to someplace go hide.
Speaker 1: I put well, and the truth matter is they did.
Speaker 1: They went to Brunswick, Georgia, because that's near west. Some
Speaker 1: of the guys who robbers lived grew up. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I'll sit in office one day and this guy
Speaker 1: called a corporate from the Brunswick Police Department called and
Speaker 1: said that he read about their robbery in the Atlanta
Speaker 1: newspaper and that there were about ten people at the
Speaker 1: Holiday End who stayed that for about a week along
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't come out. We're not sure who else
Speaker 1: joined McKinley Rogers James Henry Hall and fast Eddie Parker
Speaker 1: when they left Atlanta. But we do know they were
Speaker 1: conspicuous when they wouldn't allow the cleaning crew to enter
Speaker 1: any of their rooms at the hotel in Brunswick made it.
Speaker 1: I think it's that eight rooms for five it was
Speaker 1: five eight rooms, okay, not a man. And they went
Speaker 1: out on a bank breath. They brought on a verything
Speaker 1: and Brunswick go everything okay, and that when they at
Speaker 1: that food, the servants had to send a food at
Speaker 1: the door and leave they were dead and get it. Okay,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't come out. But when they came out, they
Speaker 1: brought up all the bubec and they left town. After
Speaker 1: McKinley Rogers and his crew aroused suspicion in Brunswick, Georgia,
Speaker 1: they decided to move on to a different city. According
Speaker 1: to the Brunswick newspaper, two cops pulled them over on
Speaker 1: their way out of town and got their identification, but
Speaker 1: for some reason they let them go. J D and
Speaker 1: Joe Amos were about to head to Brunswick, but they
Speaker 1: got a call from the local police who informed them
Speaker 1: that the robbers were gone and it would be a
Speaker 1: wasted trip they went not on seventeen and a couple
Speaker 1: of cards, one of which was the red product of
Speaker 1: the back time wait, one of which was the what
Speaker 1: was the red product for the black croc? Who that?
Speaker 1: I guess In the meantime, I understand that about his mother,
Speaker 1: A car riders his mother house. In one of Robin
Speaker 1: Goorde it was a rape in the restroom got him birth.
Speaker 1: The red Pontiac with the black top is the same
Speaker 1: one j D described leaving the stash house, and one
Speaker 1: witness said they saw the same car at the robbery
Speaker 1: scene on Handy Drive. After the robbers left Brunswick, it
Speaker 1: was a few months before they were seen again. Here's
Speaker 1: j D and uh. Nobody dreamed these foods we'll go
Speaker 1: to New York. But they did. And that's when I
Speaker 1: said they're dead. They go to New York. They're dead
Speaker 1: because they rode to Black Markeia in the Black Marpie
Speaker 1: con killer. I got a call about three or four
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. Guys say, lieutenant, yeah for your
Speaker 1: boys just got killed. J D talked me through the
Speaker 1: details of how McKinley Rogers and James Henry Hall were killed.
Speaker 1: He found out there was a third man in the
Speaker 1: car named David Phillips. We have no information about him
Speaker 1: except he was from Brunswick, Georgia as well. We don't
Speaker 1: know if he was involved in the robbery or just
Speaker 1: picked up at some point. We also don't know how,
Speaker 1: when or where these guys split from fast Eddie Parker.
Speaker 1: Here I am with j Dam food and drove in
Speaker 1: front of oven Battles please quick as please? What look
Speaker 1: still okay? And uh stop? So they go in front
Speaker 1: of this liquor store in New York. Is it in
Speaker 1: harm Boklyn? I got it down there? They drive in
Speaker 1: baby Bam. They're all shot dead. They stopped. They going
Speaker 1: to the buscle base. They did right, but the shot dead? Ye? Wrong?
Speaker 1: Please right? And the shot that and so this is
Speaker 1: why moving a heavy In retrospect, it looks like the
Speaker 1: robbers were partying and spending loads of cash in the
Speaker 1: establishments of the gangsters they robbed, and word got out
Speaker 1: quickly who and where they were. Looking back in my notes,
Speaker 1: the name j D just mentioned, Evan bin Um a
Speaker 1: k a. Quickie, was the same name from an earlier
Speaker 1: portion of my interview when j D asked me to
Speaker 1: turn off the tape recorder. He only did that one time.
Speaker 1: I vaguely remember him telling me that he went to
Speaker 1: visit Quickie in a fancy hotel suite in Atlanta just
Speaker 1: after the robbery, and that the suite was lined with
Speaker 1: bodyguards carrying assault rifles. I remember thinking how crazy it
Speaker 1: was that j D went there alone and didn't seem
Speaker 1: to care that all these guys were brandishing weapons. He
Speaker 1: was only interested in information about the robbery. In any case,
Speaker 1: it seems like Quickie was one powerful gangster. J D
Speaker 1: called the NYPD when he learned about who was murdered
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. So I called the pretty anything about it.
Speaker 1: So he's an excited dad. He had to talk to
Speaker 1: me high new about the MURDI pla they knew it
Speaker 1: went out of that business, and I would talk to
Speaker 1: a New York company anyway. He has a New York
Speaker 1: Cops the others day the drugness in the streets. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a strange world. You don't know who you're talking
Speaker 1: about when you talk to the cop. This is a
Speaker 1: recurring character trait j D exhibits over the years of
Speaker 1: talking to him. He's passionately sure of himself and very
Speaker 1: suspicious of everyone else. He surmises that the NYPD wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to him about the murders because one of
Speaker 1: their own had been at the heist. Andrew West, remember,
Speaker 1: was one of only five people out of a hundred
Speaker 1: or more to file a report with the Atlanta Police
Speaker 1: after the robbery that night. West was a bodyguard for
Speaker 1: one of the hustlers from New York. Many of these
Speaker 1: gangsters had bodyguards. J D filled me in on more
Speaker 1: details about how the robbers were killed and corrected some
Speaker 1: of the media's misinformation about this incredible story. It's like
Speaker 1: at times that journalists just didn't even care about the details. Here.
Speaker 1: I am in two thousand and two surprised at the
Speaker 1: facts j D is laid out for me. The research
Speaker 1: my dad is done. According to him, these guys but Kenley,
Speaker 1: James Houston and maybe one of the person were incited
Speaker 1: on six accounts of whatever it is by the full
Speaker 1: County grand jury by this attorney Lewis Late. Never happened.
Speaker 1: These guys never invited there, so how did they? How
Speaker 1: did the much said so they wouldn't they were never brought,
Speaker 1: They couldn't be any would see them and maybe and
Speaker 1: they okay. So those guys okay, and is that why
Speaker 1: you told me it was a beautiful four people of
Speaker 1: Warren and Roberts because I brought the bodies back down
Speaker 1: rights got four peven one of abjority. The newspaper said
Speaker 1: that Rogers and Hall were indicted along with Houston Hammond's
Speaker 1: in late November nineteen seventy. Rogerson Hall were killed along
Speaker 1: with Phillips on May ninety one, exactly seven months after
Speaker 1: the robbery. In that time, Hayman's was arrested, charged and
Speaker 1: convicted on possession of weapons. Rogers and Hall were running
Speaker 1: from this indictment without even knowing it. Here's J. D.
Speaker 1: Hudson as we quickly recap, we're the last linings took
Speaker 1: place the robbery. The head down to Brunswick, they head
Speaker 1: up seven. We would sit activity, engaged and when they
Speaker 1: were killed. Okay, So they stopped in front of this
Speaker 1: only the name again of the liquor store. Gentleman's name
Speaker 1: quick Quickie is what's his full name? Evan ma JD
Speaker 1: assumed that the last killings occurred in front of Evan
Speaker 1: Bynham's place in Brooklyn, which would add to the long
Speaker 1: list of dead robbers. Bookie Brown, Lillian Dabney, Baby Ray Humphrey,
Speaker 1: Charles Lee, McKinley, Rogers and James Henry Hall. And since
Speaker 1: Emerson Dorsey and this down woman had been murdered in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: in his mind, the case was over. But what about
Speaker 1: fast Eddie Parker, Richard Wheeler's enforcer. If gangsters like Evan
Speaker 1: Bynum and Frank Moten, we're really that ruthless and they were,
Speaker 1: there's no way they would ever stop searching. They would
Speaker 1: ever stop hunting until everyone that was involved or responsible
Speaker 1: for the robbery was dead. Fight Night is a joint
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