1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving Nick Red Episode four seventy six. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: This episode of What Driving Nick Credit's presented to you 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: by boost Mobile, and we again asked that you all 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: if you can subscribe to the pod on YouTube, iTunes 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: or Spotify if you're watching on YouTube. I'm wearing the 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: Blue Duck family's favorite piece of ward clothing that I have, 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: the retro Wimbledon polo in honor of Wimbledon being up 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: and running as we speak, because of the World Cup. 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: To Montsa, good to see you. I have not been 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: able at all to talk any Wimbledon. I haven't really 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: been all that dialed in, to be honest with you, 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: because today, Wednesday, July eighth, is the first day in 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: what a month that my eyes aren't just bleeding from 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: watching NonStop soccer. I mean, this has been I miss 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: it already. There's only technically there's eight games left in 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: the tournament, but one of them is a third place game, 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: so there's only seven really meaningful games left in the tournament. 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: And there's going only well, and there's yeah, there's only 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: six days of soccer left. There is Thursday and Friday, 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: there is one game each Saturday at doubleheader, then mid 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: next week I think Tuesday and Wednesday or Wednesday. Yeah, 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday we have both semifinals, and then next 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Sunday the World Cup final and then it's gone for 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: four years. So imagine between right now and four years 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: from now how much time Christian Ballissic has to rest 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: like that guy should just be absolutely diet now, good 27 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: to see you. Is the Has the weather taken a 28 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: turn in Los Angeles? Or are you just going counterculture? 29 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Wearing a giant fleece in the middle of July in 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: La This this jacket. 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Is not nearly as like warm or insulated as people 32 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: might think it is. It's it's pretty, it's not it's 33 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: not super I even have a shirt on up underneath this. 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I mean. 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: Yeah it is it. Well, you know what, I'll take 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: your word on it be that it's not quite as 37 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: warm as I thought it was, because he looks like 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: something a polar bear would be comfortable. And you're it's 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: just mid July and Los Angeles and here's rocking it 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: all right. We're we are gonna do some World Cup today, 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: but we're gonna start with Lebron before we do that. 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Straight to voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile. Joker 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: delaying his extension to next year. Hmmm, that is at 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: least a little interesting. But last year when he didn't 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: sign the extension, the understanding was, well, no, it makes 46 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: total sense because he can get more money by waiting 47 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: one year. It was obvious he was going to delay. Now, yes, 48 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: in theory he can get an extra year by delaying. 49 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: With there's obviously some risk to it. I'm just saying 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: file this under the hmm, at least not nothing show. Hey, 51 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: HiT's home run number three hundred and the Wimbledon semifinals 52 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: are set center versus Djokovic, Zverev I can never pronounce 53 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: his name versus Ferry and Coco in her first Wimbledon semifinals. 54 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Also a reminder, this week, we do have a mail bag. 55 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: You can pardon me email us mailbag questions what's right 56 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: at What's right? Mail bag? Pardon me? What's right? Mail 57 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: bag at gmail dot com? But demons, let's get to it. 58 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: Lebron and Rich Paul's whiteboard. 59 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So last week Rich Paul unveiled the potential 60 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: teams that Lebron could be pulling up to her that 61 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: is interested in. Uh we have the picture for you guys. 62 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: The top contenders were seventy six Ers, the Heat, the Timberwolves, Nuggets, 63 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: and of course the Calves outliers, the Warriors, MAVs, Celtic 64 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: Spurs and Knicks and Bob Myers pitching. The seventy six Ers. 65 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: The shams is reporting Philly in Cleveland, Miami are the 66 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: top three. So a lot of teams. 67 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: What do you think about it? So? Well, first leave 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: this whiteboard up and let's just really dive into it 69 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: for a moment, and let's kind of go from the 70 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: outside in, all right, So top left of the whiteboard, 71 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: it just says Stephen dre so a couple things there. 72 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, if I'm Steve Kerr, my feelings are hurt 73 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm like damn man coaching the Olympics, 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: Like I don't even get a name written on the whiteboard. Uh. 75 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: And it that, to me is a signal to the 76 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: Warriors if you want to be in this, you gotta 77 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: do a lot more. You've gotta you know you I'm 78 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: almost I feel very confident in saying that if the 79 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Warriors had acquired or were able to acquire Anthony Davis, 80 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: they would be more prominently featured on the whiteboard, so 81 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: that's them. The Dallas one is hilarious. It's Dallas's little 82 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: section says Dallas and Messai, so that's Messiu Jieri, their 83 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: new team president. Underneath it, it does not say Cooper Flag. 84 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: It does not say Kyrie Irving. And even though I 85 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: think Kyrie could be a major part of Lebron's ultimate decision. 86 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: More on that in a second. It says oil, golf, 87 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: Macau and Africa. So mcaw is the Vegas of Asia. 88 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: It's like a little territory that's kind of China but 89 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: kind of isn't. And the people that own the MAVs 90 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: have casinos there, so Dallas what and oil is obviously 91 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: oil money in Dallas. What that says is Dallas would 92 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: purely be like a long term wealth play, not a 93 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: basketball play all. Then it says Brad and Tatum. That's 94 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: the Celtics who whole draw Again, Derek White's like, come on, man, 95 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm a pretty good two way player. Now if we again, 96 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: just go to the teams that don't have really a 97 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: blowout on here, Spurs just say Spurs and Knicks just 98 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: say Knicks or n YK. So those teams are not 99 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: real options, and if the Spurs were a real option, 100 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: oddly they kind of took themselves out of it by signing. 101 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: What do you making to tell just the team in 102 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: there being no like dots or bullets on it. Well, 103 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: just like the Spurs and Knicks are just set. I 104 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: don't even know if you have to like they're just 105 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: good teams Spurs Knicks. 106 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: Right. Oh, you're saying he doesn't have to explain it. No, 107 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: I just think I did. We Yeah, we didn't talk 108 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: about this, this part about how Rich Paul said he 109 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: was gonna go to the Knicks if they didn't win 110 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: the championship, which so I mean Knicks fan, and be honest, 111 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: you kind of wish you didn't win the championship. I'm kidding, 112 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: I know, Knicks fans, that's not how you feel. It 113 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: is kind of Had I known that Lebron was gonna 114 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: spend the final couple of years of his career in 115 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: the city where I live and I could go to 116 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: all those games, I don't think I would have been 117 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: rooting so hard for the Knicks in the finals. I 118 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: gotta be totally honest with you, but the Spurs and 119 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: Knicks are not realistic options, and I don't think the 120 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: Warriors are the only team we listed there that is 121 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: a realistic option, but probably not as presently constituted. So 122 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: let's go back to the whiteboard if we could. So 123 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: there is the Sixers piece of it, Maxie Edgecombe, Jalen Brown, 124 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Embiid with MAXI with a nice little star next to 125 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: his name. That is I think what a lot of 126 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: people believe the best basketball fit. Now, that team would 127 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: not have a lot of depth. And that team, you know, 128 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: the only other sinners on the roster are hock Porty, 129 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: h Adam Bona and Embeied obviously is the biggest injury 130 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: risk you know of anybody on this board. Now, they 131 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: did sign Anfernie Simons for like no money. They did 132 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: sign Dean Wade, and so I think those are those 133 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: are nice signings. And you would feel with Lebron that's 134 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: seven solid guys. The eighth man would be hock Porty, 135 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: So maybe you do have enough depth it. I'm very 136 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: interested in how any of that, not that this should 137 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: be Demand's the defining decision or the defiance, you know, peace, 138 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: but I'm very curious how any of that would land 139 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: with Jalen Brown. If Jalen Brown did not like being 140 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: one B to Jason Tatum's one A, he all of 141 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: a sudden would be find him say it again. 142 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: One C maybe even d oh oh. 143 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's one C. I think he's just 144 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: certain nights, just flatly number four, just the Knights where 145 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: Embiid is out there and healthy. It's like that's Maxi's team. 146 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: Plus Embiid's there. Oh yeah, the greatest player of all 147 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: times on the team. And hey, we have the greatest 148 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: fourth option in the NBA. His name is Jalen Brown. 149 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: Like that that is that's a that's just a very 150 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: interesting new reality, uh, potentially for Jalen Brown. Do you 151 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: if there was no emotion attached to it, if there 152 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: was no nostalgia, nothing about you know, how Lebron should 153 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: finish his career, if it were purely and solely about basketball, 154 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: do you like Philly the most? Yeah? I would. 155 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: I would say they're pretty stacked. I don't see how 156 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: any other team. I definitely don't like the Warriors, and 157 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 2: all the other teams I guess are improbable. But yeah, 158 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: i'd say that's the best fit. 159 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: But so I think Philly is I agree with folks. 160 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: Why would he what go ahead? 161 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: Why would he not be the best with the Celtics. 162 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: Why does that not work? 163 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think right now the Celtics have First 164 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: of all, I don't think right now the Celtics have 165 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: a better both of them without Lebron, right, I don't 166 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: think right now the Celtics have a better roster or 167 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: necessarily than Philly. That's first of all. Second of all, 168 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's really considering the Celtics. I think 169 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: that there is too much history of a real rivalry 170 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: and like I now again I get. 171 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: It with the Warriors. 172 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, Well the Warriors was a real, real rivalry. 173 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: That's a great point. But I don't think there there 174 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: is no one on the Celtics that is anywhere close 175 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: to Draymond and Steph for you know what I mean, 176 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: the relationships he has with Draymond and even the relationship 177 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: he has with Steph. There's no one on the Celtics 178 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: like that. But so okay, so Philly I think does 179 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: make a ton of basketball sense. It's just hard to 180 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: imagine him finishing his career with I don't want to 181 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: call it a random team, but a team that he 182 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: was ever connected you now, with that said back in 183 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eighteen, Philly is where I was saying 184 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: I was encouraging him to go. Philly is where when 185 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: he picked the Lakers, where I wanted him to go, 186 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: and I thought he should go. But speaking of random 187 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: team to finish his career, will skip over the heat 188 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: for now on the whiteboard and go to the Timberwolves, 189 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: where it just says aunt mellow McDaniel Gobert. That would 190 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: be just an unbelievable social experiment, pretty stunning to see, 191 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: and a really weird team, like just flatly an odd 192 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:55,479 Speaker 1: team that needs a forward and he could add maturity 193 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: and leadership and you know, all of all of that stuff, 194 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: But I don't think they're a real option. They also, 195 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, again they're in a similar spot of Philly, 196 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: of you'd love their starting five and then Desumu Terrence 197 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: Shannon Junior and then waiting on Dante DiVincenzo, you know, 198 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: to get back from injury. But it would still feel 199 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: like they are very thin at BIGGS, much like Philly. Now. 200 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: Gobert is a hell of a lot more durable than Embide. 201 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: Obviously very very different players I don't think Minnesota is 202 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: a real option. I don't really want to spend a 203 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: ton of time on Minnesota. I don't think they are 204 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: It would be absolutely gobsmacking if Lebron finishes his career 205 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: with the Timberwolves. On top of that, keep in mind 206 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: what rich Paul has said is that he at no point, 207 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: as rich Paul said, this decision is one going to 208 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: be about the best to win a championship. He wants 209 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: to win a championship, he wants to compete for a championship. 210 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: But he has said is this is going to be 211 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: about happiness. And he's also mentioned a lot about golf. 212 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: So I just don't think Minnesota is where we're gonna 213 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: see Lebron finish his career. Now, the Nuggets are a 214 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: different story in that I do wonder how happy Lebron 215 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: would be playing with Joker in a very positive way, 216 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: Like just in my opinion, the two best passers arguably 217 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: since Magic Johnson, that two of the highest basketball IQs ever, 218 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: and a team that could desperately use Lebron flip side 219 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: being man oh man, they are really trying to make 220 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: the entire playe out of Aaron Gordon On the defensive 221 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: end of the ball. And so I now Josh Tronki, 222 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: who's his body owns the team, and uh Jared Dudleys 223 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: his buddies on the coaching staff. That probably helps, But 224 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: I also don't see Denver as all that plausible, which 225 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: brings us down to a couple teams along with Philly, 226 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: the Heat and the Cavs. The Heat on the whiteboard 227 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: simply say Mitchell Wiggins, Jannis Bam. I don't I think 228 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: the Heat would be fun. I think they would be interesting. 229 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: I they again, it's a team that's like, okay, that 230 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: starting lineup makes sense, and then it gets very shaky, 231 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, the moment after that. Jovich is a you know, 232 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: has regressed a bit. Bobby Portis has passed his prime. 233 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway Junior's been kind of you know, has bounced 234 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: around the league for you know, on minimums are near minimums, 235 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: and that's really the team. Now, you would have Spoe, 236 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: you would have Yannis, but Yannis is at this point 237 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: not the most durable guy in the world. And you 238 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: would wonder if that team would have enough shooting, right. 239 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: That would be pretty crazy. 240 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: It's just correct. It would just be a bunch of 241 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: guys attacking the rim and not a lot of spacing. Yeah, 242 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: and then you have the calves, which the calves thing 243 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: is the most interesting? Can we go full scale? I forget? 244 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: Can you guys remind me? What does I see? I 245 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: can't see because of the graphic and I forgot what 246 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: it is the top right? What that says? Hold on, 247 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: let me see if I can the I apologize, I 248 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: had this, we did this on TV and I forgot 249 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: it as well. Then what it? Oh? It says Kobe 250 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: is Dan plus something in Kobe? Uh, let me see 251 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: if I can regardless, if you guys can decipher that 252 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: and put that in the dock, it would help me out. 253 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: It's it also say it again, Okay, don't worry about it. 254 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: It's I forget who it says. It's it's guys connected 255 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: to the team and guys in the front office as 256 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: reasons he would want to be there, Wims, who is 257 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: his high school teammate who now works with the Cavs. 258 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: That's a positive. And uh, it says Mitchell Harden, Mobley Allen. 259 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: And then I think this is interesting and this might 260 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: be more. Oh, Chris Grant and Kobe Altman got it Okay, 261 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: those are the people, it says top right, and then 262 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: it says no Garland with a minus sign because Garland's 263 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: a clutch guy. Garland's a guy Lebron likes, and Garland's 264 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 1: the guy they traded away. So here has been you know, 265 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: it's been a fifteen minute lead up to this point 266 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: that I wanted to make going through the entire whiteboard demonse. 267 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: I think he is going to go with the Caps. 268 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: I think that another team could swoop in and find 269 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: a way to sweeten the pot from what the team's 270 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: going to look like to make him change his mind. 271 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: And I think the way the hang up right now, 272 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: I would imagine for Lebron is thinking long and hard 273 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: about the fit alongside James Harden and about whether or 274 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: not he is potentially finding himself in a spot very 275 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: similar to what he accepted but didn't love with the Lakers, 276 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: which was okay. So the face of the franchise number 277 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: one option Luca slash down of VM Mitchell, fine, so 278 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: be it. I'll take a back seat to them, But 279 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: the number two option is a player that I'm better than. 280 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: But because they can only play one way, I have 281 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: to take a secondary role to them as well, And 282 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: that's Austin Reeves slash James Harden. And then all of 283 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: a sudden, I find myself again in this Swiss army 284 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: knife role. I'm not really dictating the offense. How fun 285 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: is that? Plus again, Austin, I believe in Austin Reeves' 286 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: long term and you know, very different player than James Harden. 287 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't have the accolades of Harden, but also doesn't have 288 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: the playoff baggage of Harden. But much like Harden is, 289 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, hasn't played his best ball in the playoffs 290 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: for Austin's much smaller sample side. So I think Harden 291 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: is the hang up there, which is why if I 292 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: were the Cleveland Cavaliers, as I am hoping that some 293 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: the LA the Warriors don't find a way to trade 294 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: for Anthony Davis or the Sixers don't find a way 295 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: to convince Lebron this is your best fit, I would 296 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: be on the phone daily with the Dallas Mavericks and saying, listen, 297 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna sign and we're gonna sign James Harden. He 298 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: opted out. We're gonna sign James Harden to some type 299 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: of deal. You have two years eighty two million dollars 300 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: left on a contract with Kyrie Irving. That doesn't really 301 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: fit your timeline. You want to give the car keys 302 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: to Cooper Flag Anyway, What is the type of draft 303 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: compensation you would like us to attach to James Harden 304 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: plus probably at a contract a little bit cheaper than 305 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: the one you're gonna be paying Kyrie Irving, to give 306 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: you a little financial relief, a little future draft equity. 307 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: Maybe way down the road when you know Lebron's not 308 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: going to be on the team anymore, we can attach 309 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: it for the year. Donovan Mitchell's gonna be making seventy 310 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: six million dollars on this new deal. Maybe you won't 311 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: think we're going to be good, But how can we 312 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: turn James Harden into Kyrie Earth. That's what the Cleveland 313 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: Cavaliers should be trying to do, and now listen. 314 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: People would love that. 315 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: It would be it would be kind of a perfect ending, 316 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: and it would give Lebron and Kyrie the finish they 317 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: never got that Kyrie has since SETI regretted now that 318 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: team you would really be asking Evan Mobley and Jared 319 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: Allen to do a lot of defending, yeah, and Lebron 320 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: because ky as out of a defensive back court as 321 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: Donovan and Harden are. At least Harden is strong and 322 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: big like Donovan and Kyrie backcourt is tiny and bad defensively. 323 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: But they would be such a dynamic offense, particularly with Lebron, 324 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, making a lot of the decisions. That team 325 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: obviously can win the Eastern Conference, obviously, and then you 326 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: roll your dice on who comes out of the absolute 327 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: war zone in the West. And I keep saying this, 328 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: and I will say it one more time. I do 329 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: not believe Lebron is making this decision assuming that next year, 330 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: this coming year, is his final year in the NBA. 331 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I think he is making this decision acknowledging this next 332 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: year might be his final year in the NBA, but 333 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: there is a very good chance he's playing two more seasons. 334 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a smooth twenty five years in the league. 335 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: And I think looking at Cleveland and saying, give me 336 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: two bites at the playoffs with this group of guys 337 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: and see what we can do. I think it's interesting. 338 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: And I think that if Cleveland were able to pull 339 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: off a trade for Kyrie Irving, I think that makes 340 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: it far more doable. 341 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: And go ahead if they didn't get Kyrie Irving. Don't 342 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: you think it would be like somewhat of an understanding 343 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: if Lebron James ended back up on the Cavs, Like 344 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: I don't think it would be him being on the 345 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: Lakers and being the third option to Luca and Ar. 346 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 2: Do you think they would naturally like kind of as 347 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: Braun it's back in Cleveland. 348 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I do think that. No, no, no, I do 349 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: think that, But I'm just talking about But then all 350 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: of a sudden, James Harden really has very little utility 351 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: like Harden just doesn't is not for all of his 352 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: playoff issues. Harden is a pretty reliable, very good regular 353 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: season player, but the ball's gotta be in his hands, 354 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: and so of all of a sudden, the ball's out 355 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: of Harden's hands. It's just, you know, it's a big 356 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: salary spot and a big ego and all of that 357 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: for a guy that can't do the chameleon role like 358 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: Lebron did, So it's just not getting the most out 359 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: of that player's value. I also think it's possible that 360 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: Lebron signs with the Cavs and they move Harden during 361 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: the year, But again hard to have a team be 362 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: gelling and you know, ready to take off in the 363 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: postseason if you make a massive mid season trade. So 364 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: right now I think the Cavs are the favorite. I 365 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: think the Warriors would have to find a way to 366 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: trade for Anthony Davis to really get back in the mix. 367 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: And I am not dismissing the Sixers. I think the 368 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: Sixers would be weird. But if he was going to 369 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: go to the Knicks cause it's big market championship drought, 370 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: the Sixers, whose championship drought is only ten years shorter 371 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: than the Knicks was, I guess is kind of like 372 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: the JV version of going for the similar reasons going 373 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: to the Knicks. 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All right, demanse, let's talk a 414 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: little World Cup here. 415 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 2: After sneaking a win from Cape Vernet, Argentina escapes with 416 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: another win by Egypt by scoring three goals and thirteen 417 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: minutes to go up three two. Yes, so you had 418 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: Argentina with the largest slice of World Cup title pill. 419 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: How are you feeling about that now? 420 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: Oh? I Actually, here's the reason for Argentina having the 421 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: biggest slice and I still would happen with the biggest slice, 422 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: is not because necessarily I think they're the best team, 423 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: but it's because they have the clearest path and Spain, 424 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: and the three best teams in the tournament are Argentina, 425 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: France and Spain. And you could argue that of those 426 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: three teams, Argentina's played the worst. I'm not as concerned 427 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: about that that because Spain and France are on the 428 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: same side of the bracket, and just to get there, 429 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: by the way, Spain has to get through a Belgium 430 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: team that just played the best game it's played all tournament. 431 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: France has to get through a Moroccan team that the 432 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: only team that's beaten Morocco in the World Cup the 433 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: last two years, of consequence is France. Morocco has beaten 434 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: everyone else they have played that matters or at least 435 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: drawn with them, and Morocco's a legitimate top eight team 436 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: in the nation in the world. So it's just the 437 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: path is so much clearer for Argentina. Has Argentina looked unbeatable. 438 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: Far from it. Flip side though, is this they were 439 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: down two at the seventy fifth minute and yeah you 440 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: didn't feel great about it, but you did not think 441 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: they were dead. And that speak they and I have 442 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: been has tent to say this because I am maybe 443 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: sometimes when it comes to historical rankings, I go I 444 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: almost go counter to the mainstream in I think people 445 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: are too dismissive of the historical legends, and maybe I 446 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: pay a little too much reverence to the historical legends 447 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: that I didn't see play. But I have been pretty 448 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: firm that the Messi Ronaldo debate, while fun, it's figure 449 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: out who you think is the best of those two 450 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: guys over the years, and then they can start competing 451 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: with Pele for greatest ever. I no longer feel that way. 452 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: I think Messi's pretty clearly the greatest soccer player ever, 453 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: and somehow he is still the best player in the 454 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: tournament and the scariest player in the tournament, and amongst 455 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: his teammates may be the most beloved bid player in 456 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: the tournament. And so you have this perfect storm of 457 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: any time you're playing Argentina and you have a lead 458 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: or you are in the game. I think for the 459 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: opponent there is a in the back of their head, oh, man, 460 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: is Messi gonna do it to us? Messi's probably gonna 461 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 1: do it to us? Or what's Messi going to do? 462 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: And for the Argentina teammates, I think a lack of 463 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: getting rattled because they're like, we've got Messi plus an 464 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: extra gear they can get to of. We can't let 465 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: this be Messi's last game. We don't. You can't let 466 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: him go out like this, and it's just all And 467 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: then on top of all that demanse, then you also 468 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: have Messi doing unbelievable shit, just just doing truly like 469 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: god level stuff, and so I just think they're gonna 470 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: be such a hard team to beat. And their path 471 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: they have had of the eight teams left the easiest 472 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: path here they do have of the eight teams left, 473 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: the easiest quarterfinal matchup. And then in the Semis they 474 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: either play England, an England team that for sixty years 475 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: in the Euros, which is if you're not a huge 476 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: soccer fan, the Euros is the World Cup for just Europe. 477 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 1: It's the biggest. It's a every four year international soccer 478 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: tournament just amongst the European nations. So it's the biggest 479 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: trophy a European nation can win. Is the World Cup 480 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: the second biggest trophy by far as the Euros. England's 481 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 1: never won the Euros last two Euros though, with this 482 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: a very similar group of guys. In twenty twenty and 483 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: twenty four they went to the final. They lost in 484 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty n PKS, I think they lost. Uh, I'm 485 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: gonna check real quick. In twenty twenty four in PKS 486 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: as well. No, they just lost two one to Spain. 487 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: Pardon me? They what the that that game? Win? Where 488 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: the goals scored in that game? I was talking about 489 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: this this morning and now I forgot. Oh yeah, no 490 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't in BK's but they gave up the game 491 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: winning goal in the eighty sixth minute. So England, which 492 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: went to the Semis of the World Cup a couple 493 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: of World Cups ago, hasn't won a World Cup in 494 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: sixty years, has never won a Euros. That team, So 495 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: everyone on the English team, if that's your game in 496 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: the Semis, it's the biggest game in all of their lives. Meanwhile, 497 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: if you're MESSI and Argentina. You're like, yeah, I mean 498 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: we played in a shootout World Cup final. We were 499 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: down to nothing in the seventy eighth minute a few 500 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: days ago. Like We're they are not gonna be nervous 501 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: and I have no idea who's gonna come out of 502 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: the left side of the bracket. Spain hasn't allowed a 503 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: goal yet this tournament. That seems pretty good. Spain hasn't 504 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: lost a match in ninety minutes in like thirty six games. 505 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: France seemingly, except for in Paraguay, can score three or 506 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: four goals anytime they want. That seems pretty good. France 507 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: in the last three World Cups. De Monse France, they 508 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: have played nineteen games in the last three World Cups. 509 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: Two of them were meaningless final group stage games when 510 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: they've already clinched the group. So I'm gonna throw those 511 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: games out, you know, I like the US's game against Turkey, 512 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: A where you've clinched the group. You don't need it. 513 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: Throw it out. Those other seventeen games for France in 514 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: the last three World Cups, they have sixteen wins and 515 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: one draw which turned into a loss, and that was 516 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: the World Cup final against Argentina a three to three 517 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: loss in penalties. France won the tournament in twenty eighteen. Yeah, 518 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: won the tournament in twenty eighteen, lost in the final 519 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and then this year they've been 520 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: unabsolutely unbelievable. And so I I'm not arguing that Argentina 521 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: is better than France. I'm simply arguing that France has 522 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: a brutal game tomorrow that I'm going to in Boston. 523 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: France Morocco. Morocco. On the other hand, of the last 524 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: two World Cups, the only game they've lost is of 525 00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: consequence is to France in the Semis last year. And 526 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: Spain has a Belgian team. We already talked about that. 527 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: So I just think Argentina's path is is pretty open. 528 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: And I what Messi's doing is incomprehensible to score a 529 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: goal in six straight knockout round games to now have 530 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: like I. I don't have the number like I think 531 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: he now has. You know what I'm just going to 532 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna look it up real quick. Hold on 533 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: one second, I want to get this right, uh, because 534 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: Messi now has the record for most goals in World 535 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: Cup history by a lot, but that is a record 536 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: that he has set almost out of nowhere. He was 537 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: not some like all time great World Cup performer. He 538 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: had won a Golden Ball, but he was criticized by 539 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: people in Argentina even when he won the Golden Ball 540 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: the year they lost in the final, And this was 541 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: the one thing that wasn't on his resume. He hadn't 542 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: raised a trophy for the national team. And now over 543 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,479 Speaker 1: the last five years, they just they win Cope every 544 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: time and they've won the World Cup. But you at 545 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: the start of so he scored one, two, three, four, 546 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: five six, he scored six goals. Oh no, hold on, 547 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: let me count this again. Sorry, this bad podcasting, but 548 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: I gotta do it. One two, three, four, five six, 549 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: seven goals in last year's World Cup. In this year's 550 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: World Cup, he scored three in the first game, we're 551 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: at ten, two in the second game, were at twelve, 552 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: and then one in each. So he has scored fifteen 553 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: goals in the last two World Cups, which is a 554 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: total of twelve games. He has fifteen goals in the 555 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: last twelve World Cup games. Prior to this World Cup starting, 556 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: the record for most goals in World Cup history was 557 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: sixteen by Miroslav Closa. Messi has fifteen in his last 558 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: twelve World Cup games, which means because he has twenty 559 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: one now for his career. He only had six total 560 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: goals in his four World Cup games prior to this one. 561 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: He it's just in his last twelve World Cup games 562 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: he has scored in this is right, right, Yeah, he 563 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: has scored in every game except for the group stage 564 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: game against Poland in twenty twenty two. He has scored 565 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 1: in six consecutive knockout round games. It's just what he's 566 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: doing at thirty nine is impossible, but we're watching it, 567 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: and it's it's why. It's why I think they can 568 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: win the tournament. 569 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: I have more goals. All right, let's do some Do 570 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: you think that somebody el should kick in soll that's. 571 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: An interesting one. No, because here's the deal. 572 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 4: You you very well might have one of these next few 573 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 4: games come down to actual penalty kicks, like end of 574 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 4: game penalty kicks. 575 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: Yep, Messi's gotta be one of your five there. And 576 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: if you I don't think you can screw with his 577 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: head by having him removed? Is your go to penalty kick? 578 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 3: Guy? 579 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: I also think it is absurd pressure to ask anyone 580 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: else on the team, like, hey, we're replacing Messy if 581 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: you go knock in these penalty kicks. But he has 582 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: missed two in a row badly, and both in big 583 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: spots early in games. All right, the So you want 584 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: to talk var for a second. 585 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, so VR took off an Egyptian goal? Have we 586 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 2: lost the plot with the replay here? 587 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: So you guys know how I feel about this. Replay 588 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: is a good idea in sports that is never a 589 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 1: Everyone starts with good intentions with replay. We are gonna 590 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: use it only to correct clear and obvious errors, and 591 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: then people can't help themselves. They want to use it 592 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: for anything and everything. And it makes officials on the 593 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: field worse, It makes the viewing experience worse. It does not. 594 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: It can cause as many problems as it solves. And 595 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: I have been consistent on this for my entirety of 596 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: my broadcast career. Just get rid of it entirely for everyone. 597 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was such an obvious, clear mistake 598 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: by the refs. It would be so easy to fix 599 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: with replay. For every one of those we have three 600 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: What the hell are they? What they're going back? Twenty 601 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: second they're saying, where replay is robbing us of these 602 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: great moments, I'm not convinced they are actually getting it right. 603 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: It is making referees feel like they have a safety blanket, 604 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: so they're not quite as good. Referees across all sports 605 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 1: have the ability to set the tone on what they're 606 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: going to call and what they're not going to call 607 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 1: early in a game, and then keep that standard throughout 608 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: the game. Replay has no, no regard for that. It 609 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: is it slows It not only slows the game down literally, 610 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: but it also takes frame by frame pieces of evidence 611 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: to determine what did or didn't happen in a full 612 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: speed sport a full speed sports. It doesn't make the 613 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: product better and it is it doesn't actually make more 614 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: more things right. And this is the example I have 615 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: used forever. I will use it again and again and again, 616 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: but for all of I'll switch it to basketball for 617 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: a moment, for every basketball game that was played for 618 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: one hundred years, and for every basketball game that is 619 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: played currently that is not televised. If I am holding 620 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: the ball, or if I go up for a shot 621 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: and you block it and it goes out of bounds, 622 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: for all of history and in every park or high 623 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: school in America, that is out on you. In ninety 624 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of basketball games played in human history. 625 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: I go up for a shot, you come over and 626 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: block it. It's out on you. Due to the advent 627 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: of replay, we have learned that actually, technically, if you 628 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: slow it down enough, a lot of those shots while 629 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: you blocked it, the last thing it touched was the 630 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: tip of my finger, which makes it out on me. 631 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: And my contention is switching that to out on me 632 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: is not getting it right. It is using replay to 633 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: get it wrong. You're like, oh, well, now we can 634 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: see it in this if if everywhere the game is 635 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: played it is everyone agrees, it's not like it's a 636 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: subject of argument that this is my ball, and then 637 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 1: the technology changes it to your ball. That is not 638 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: getting it right. For every baseball game ever played for 639 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: one hundred years, and every baseball game that is played 640 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: that is not televised. If I try to steal second 641 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: and you catch your throws to the second basement and 642 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: I beat the tag, I'm safe. If because of replay, 643 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: we see that after being safe a half second after 644 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: the tag was applied. For a tenth of a second. 645 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: My body was not touching the bag, even though I 646 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: was over the bag the whole time, but I literally, 647 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: like was hovering over it for a tenth of a second. 648 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: Calling me out does not make it right. It makes 649 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: it wrong. And in every soccer game that's been played 650 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: for one hundred years, and every soccer game that is 651 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: played that is not on television, if I steal the 652 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: ball from you on near my own goal line and 653 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: the referee does not call a foul and then I 654 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 1: drive the length of the field and score a goal, 655 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: that goal stands, and realizing that sixteen seconds prior when 656 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: I stole the ball and the ref saw it and 657 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: let it go, turning that into a foul is not 658 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: getting it right. Just like if you're a Croatian fan. 659 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: If there is a cross into the box and I 660 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: am on sides and I run for the cross and 661 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: en root to the ball getting to me, it doesn't 662 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: change course, it doesn't veer, it doesn't bounce, it grazes 663 00:46:54,120 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: off a teammate of mine's hair while I'm making my 664 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: run for the ball. For every soccer game in history 665 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 1: and every soccer match that has played that isn't on TV. 666 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: That's a good goal, and using technology to realize it 667 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: actually grazed somebody's hair, which technically makes you off sides 668 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: is not getting it right. So in a quest to 669 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: get things right, we have made the officiating less consistent. 670 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: We have slowed the games down. We have we have 671 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 1: stopped rewarding as much the better conditioned teams because there 672 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: is more stoppages and more times to get rest. They're 673 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: all these negatives and you are not getting more things right. 674 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 1: So I just hate it, and I hate it across sports, 675 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: and I have been very very consistent on that, and 676 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: maybe this World Cup will get people on my side. 677 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: I just really really can't stand it. Uh and I 678 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: feel listen, I feel freej They did get another goal 679 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: right after that, and so I'm not certainly would have 680 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,919 Speaker 1: gotten that third goal they got if the second goal 681 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: hadn't been called off. I don't know, but I feel 682 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: for Egypt all right. I want to talk about Ronaldo 683 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: in a minute, but first World Cup quarterfinals are here, 684 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: and nothing beats singing a game live in person. That's 685 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: why I want to give the sponsor of today's video 686 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: seat Geek a huge shout out. So over thirty five 687 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: million download. 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All right, demon's let's go to the quarterfinals 724 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: of the World Cup. 725 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 2: Spain is moving on to the quarterfinals after a cup 726 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 2: after a goal in stoppage time sending Ronaldo and Portugal home. 727 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 2: Portugal started Ronaldo throughout the tournament, who was obviously getting older. 728 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 2: It sounds like you might have had some disagreements with 729 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 2: that and maybe thought that he was holding his team 730 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 2: back a little bit. 731 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean, listen, I Rinaldo is one 732 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: of the greatest players of all time. This is undeniable. 733 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 1: But Ronaldo is not only older than Messi, but was 734 00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: far more reliant on athleticism and being just a great 735 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,760 Speaker 1: raw natural athlete than Messi was, and so he hasn't 736 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: aged quite as well. Plus he is older, like in fairness, 737 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: you add to it that he doesn't pretty clearly have 738 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,399 Speaker 1: the humility and relationship with his teammates that Messi has, 739 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 1: and it created quite the sticky situation, particularly when Messi 740 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: still at least is the best player on his team 741 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: and Ronaldo's not even close to that and portuge. If 742 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: Rinaldo had if either Carlos Martin Roberto Martinez pardon me, 743 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 1: the manager had the courage, But again I talked about 744 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,439 Speaker 1: this before. Hard to bench a guy who's the most 745 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: famous person in your country in four hundred years if 746 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,280 Speaker 1: he either had the courage to change his role or 747 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: if Rinaldo had the humility to be like, Hey, all 748 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: that matters is if we win the World Cup, I'm 749 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,720 Speaker 1: gonna get the credit, and it's gonna be on my resume. 750 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 1: It's the only thing missing. Uh, you know a lot. 751 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: The reason we have such a great team now is 752 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: because I inspired a whole nation over the last twenty 753 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: years into, you know, doubly recommitting to soccer. So I 754 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: get triple credit. Anyway, you know, feel free to if 755 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: you want to start me, take me off, or better yet, 756 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 1: have me be the ultimate super sub where I can 757 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: come on at the sixty minute mark, get go all 758 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: out for the final thirty or once we hit to 759 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: the knockout rounds, you can put me on in the 760 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: seventy five to eighty minute mark and I can be 761 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: there for extra time if we're there. Plus, I'm still 762 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: a nails PK taker does the greatest penalty kick taker ever, 763 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: and I thought Roberta Martinez was gonna do that. After 764 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 1: he took him off during the Croatia game, I was like, Okay, 765 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: there's the sign. There's the sign that he's able to 766 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: do it. They want in part because of it. That's 767 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: not what happened, and so his legacy doesn't go backwards. 768 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 1: But it is a tough dichotomy for him that he 769 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: was really hurting the team and Messi's carrying his and 770 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 1: this is like a lifelong debate between the two fan 771 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: bases and the two guys, and they alternated ballandors and 772 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: all of that. And so I don't want to, I 773 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 1: don't want to overstate what this means for him legacy wise, 774 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,399 Speaker 1: but this was the best team he ever was on, 775 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: and he heard it more than he helped it. And 776 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,399 Speaker 1: that's just a bummer kind of final chapter. Go ahead 777 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 1: and ask your follow up here to Monsey. 778 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lebron and Ronaldo were the same age. Does he 779 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 2: walk away before it gets to this point? Think Lebron? 780 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: So I, So I here's what I think really helps 781 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: Lebron to where it won't ever get to this point. 782 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: Not only is Lebron as great of an athlete as 783 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: Ronaldo is, Lebron is probably the greatest natural physical athlete ever. 784 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 1: But here's the other place it really helps. Basketball courts 785 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: so much smaller. I know that sounds silly, but I'm 786 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 1: but I'm very like, you know what I mean, Like 787 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: there's just so much more running and movement and everything 788 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: in soccer and basketball is such a smaller court, and 789 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,959 Speaker 1: it's so much more about burst, you know, and those 790 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: things that Lebron can it he can, his age doesn't 791 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: show quite as much, and he is he started in. 792 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,760 Speaker 1: Lebron at his peak was just so far and away, 793 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: just from a raw athleticism standpoint, the greatest bestman in 794 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: the league had ever seen that. Even as he declines, 795 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: he's still a better than average athlete across the league. 796 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: And so all of those things make it to where 797 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, I've said it for I'll say it again. 798 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: I think Lebron could play to fifty and not be bad. 799 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: I think he could just do old man Jason kids 800 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: stuff as long as he wanted. I don't think he's 801 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: going to do that. And maybe if he did try 802 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 1: to play to fifty, he would prove me wrong. But 803 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 1: Lebron also already showed Lebron is right now closer to 804 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: like Lebron at forty one is a higher ranked in 805 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: the world basketball player, then Ronaldo at forty one is 806 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: soccer player, right like Lebron right now, call him the 807 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: twelfth best player in the league, and Ronaldo is nowhere 808 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: close to the twelfth best player in the world. You know, 809 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: in the world. And despite that, Lebron already showed a 810 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: willingness to take on, at least temporarily a lesser role. 811 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: He did it with the Lakers last year, something that 812 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 1: if Rinaldo had taken, you know, kind of a page 813 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: out of Lebron's book with that Laker team. With the 814 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: Portugal team this year, I think maybe it goes a 815 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: little differently. All right. You ever notice how everything keeps 816 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: going up? Rents going up, streaming services going up, favorite 817 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 1: burrito spot charging you extra for salts. It's outrageous. Not 818 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: with boost Mo. 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All right, Demanse, I lied before I 828 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: said you were correct that we need to do the 829 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 1: Renaldo thing. I said, let's go to the quarterfinal preview. Now, 830 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: let's go to the quarterfinal preview, So my apologies before. 831 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so we are at the quarterfinal. France faces 832 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 2: Morocco tomorrow's Spain faces Belgium. 833 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: Friday. 834 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 2: Saturday we got Norway versus England and then we got 835 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 2: Argentina versus Switzerland. What are the top storylines that you 836 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 2: have your eyes on for the rest of the tournament. 837 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm gonna go on reverse order. I I 838 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: would be stunned if Switzerland beats Argentina. Now, it would 839 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 1: have been stunned if Cape Verdie or Egypt to beat them, 840 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: and they were both of them, had them on the ropes. 841 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: But I think Switzerland shout out to Switzerland. Four straight 842 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: World Cups where they made the round of sixteen or further. 843 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: Here are there are only four nations demanse that have 844 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: made it to the round of sixteen or further and 845 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: four straight World Cups grants Argentina, Brazil and Switzerland. And 846 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 1: so good for Switzerland for you know in that group. Yeah, 847 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: I didn't expect it either, to be totally honest with you. 848 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: This also, however, is the furthest they've gotten since the fifties. 849 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: I you know, they needed a shootout to win against Columbia. 850 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: That was, you know, a fun zero zero game that 851 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: I think Switzerland into the road here Norway, it's just early. 852 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: Holland has sixty two goals in fifty four games for Norway. 853 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 1: Never see anything like it in my life. No one 854 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 1: has the fact that over a fifty plus game sample 855 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 1: for the national team, he is averaging more than a 856 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: goal of game. It's just it's unfathomable. With that said, 857 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: and ode Guard's a really good player. As shocking as 858 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: it was that they beat Brazil, it would probably be 859 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 1: more shocking if they beat England. But tell you right now, 860 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 1: English fans, you're gonna be scared as long as that 861 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: game is close, You're gonna be scared that Holland is 862 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: just gonna rip your guts out like he did to Brazil. 863 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: He's just a remarkable, remarkable player. But England I think 864 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: got over the hump of that Mexico game and they 865 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: should win their game. Spain Belgium is pretty simple in 866 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 1: this regard. Spain has not lost in ninety minutes and 867 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: thirty five matches and they haven't allowed a goal of 868 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: this tournament. They the level their defense is playing has 869 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: allowed them to not coast but control these games without 870 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 1: Lem and Jamal really having a good tournament yet. And 871 00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm really interested in what Spain looks like if Niko 872 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Williams comes back, which he might be too banged up, 873 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: and then if Jamal gets going. But Spain should beat Belgium. 874 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: They should beat Belgium. Belgium though if they do the 875 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: same they did against the US, which is have Jabryna 876 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: and Lakaku and maybe even Doku some of those guys 877 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: on the bench to where it's like, hey, if we're 878 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: tied at the sixty minute mark, we have our old 879 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: awesome guys cut, ready rear and ready to go. That's 880 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: that's an interesting wrinkle. And then there's France Morocco, the 881 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: game that I'm going to, the game that Morocco has 882 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: been thinking about for the last four years. And France 883 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: played Morocco in the World Cup semifinals last time around. 884 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: They scored immediately in that game, then held on for 885 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: dear life to a one nothing lead, and then scored again, 886 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I think, like in the eighty fifth minute to put 887 01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 1: it away to win too nothing. Hakemi the greatest Moroccan 888 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 1: player ever. He is trying to make the case for 889 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: you know one of, if not the greatest African player 890 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,439 Speaker 1: ever as far as player to represent an African national team. 891 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: Did he a Dragba is on that list. I'm leaving 892 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, I'm leaving some guys off just but he 893 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: is making his case. I am. I am curious what 894 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: the Moroccan defense, how if they can take a page 895 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: out of Paraguay's book but be a little more in 896 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: mucking the game up, parking the bus, frustrating France, but 897 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 1: then being better on the counter attack because of Akimi. 898 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 1: It's what Netherlands was afraid that they were going to 899 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: do against them in the round of thirty two. And 900 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: it is that is the game that, even though I 901 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: think France is the second biggest favorite in the quarters, 902 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 1: the game that I think has the best chance of 903 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: an upset. The odds are the four favorite twin but 904 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I think France, as we would say on the show, 905 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 1: is on sneaky upsettler. I will be there, which is 906 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: why we're doing this show today. And that also reminder 907 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 1: for you guys, mail bag if you we're gonna do 908 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: a mail bag later today, but so send you can 909 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: send in questions for future mail bags. 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