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Speaker 1: twenty two, season seventeen, episode number ninety one. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the very latest edition of The Break We Life from
Speaker 1: thats WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start at the full
Speaker 1: crew today will be joined by Bucky Brooks here in
Speaker 1: a moment he will he is of NFL Network, and
Speaker 1: he will talk to us a little bit about the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia offense versus the Dallas defense. That game coming up
Speaker 1: this Saturday night at a seven fifteen I think is
Speaker 1: kick time, but it'll be you guys will be able
Speaker 1: to check that out. It will has been moved from Sunday,
Speaker 1: So if you had not noticed that it was moved
Speaker 1: from a Sunday noon game to a Saturday night game,
Speaker 1: go ahead and get it out of the way. Get
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ready for the playoffs. How's everybody doing today? Great? Good?
Speaker 1: Everybody's good? Nick? You wanta give me a ninety one LP? Wow?
Speaker 1: Is that kind of damn best you got? Darren Benson?
Speaker 1: You ever heard of him? Yeah? He was. He was
Speaker 1: doing some roofing work in in nineteen ninety four and
Speaker 1: they Cowboys called him and said, you want to play football?
Speaker 1: A pretty big guy. They're like, yeah, okay, and he
Speaker 1: played a couple of years. Darren Benson, Okay, don't like
Speaker 1: a story. It seemed fair to say that kind of
Speaker 1: day about a guy who was here for like sixteen years.
Speaker 1: I think he's got did his job. Most great stories
Speaker 1: in the history of the Cowboys, does he? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. The way you got here, I mean, we've
Speaker 1: never done it before. We've never ever other than one
Speaker 1: time in two thousand and five, if we stayed over
Speaker 1: for a week forty nine Ers Raiders. And because of that,
Speaker 1: when you say stayed over, we were in town for
Speaker 1: one game, we stayed the entire week in that city
Speaker 1: for another game that was going to be in the
Speaker 1: first game against the forty nine Ers, this deep snapper
Speaker 1: had another bad snap and Parcels were like, yet you're
Speaker 1: out cut? Them, you gotta get someone else, and since
Speaker 1: we're out there, can we get someone local. There's a
Speaker 1: guy over here Atkyle Berkeley named LP a little bit
Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, well get him in here and
Speaker 1: see if he can do it just for a little bit.
Speaker 1: And then he did it for seventeen years without a
Speaker 1: bad snap. It's amazing. If we were back to Dallas,
Speaker 1: like we've probably should have been. Parcels just wanted to
Speaker 1: do that. If we were back to Dallas, then we
Speaker 1: would have gotten the pool of you know, seventeen snappers
Speaker 1: and this guy, this guy cool, and probably LP would
Speaker 1: have never done it. Also, like at this point has
Speaker 1: trained a decent number of successful long snappers that are
Speaker 1: in the league right now. I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: their names he did. I don't know their names off
Speaker 1: the top of my head. But there were at least
Speaker 1: like three or four long snappers in the league right
Speaker 1: now who were to his understudy and training camp who
Speaker 1: went on to be successful. Just working under him for
Speaker 1: a summer here we had, Yeah, there's probably four. Crater
Speaker 1: c was one of them. Would yeah there, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know their names, but there have been a
Speaker 1: few really really. You can scoff at it all you want,
Speaker 1: but like the best long snapper and team history and
Speaker 1: one of the best ever. No, he was the LP
Speaker 1: was the best LP. I mean, hellster, I did it
Speaker 1: for equally as long he did, what twenty something years? Right?
Speaker 1: How long is he here? Not not that long? Not
Speaker 1: that How long is he you know? Not off the
Speaker 1: top of my head, but I know lpsteen ninety to
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. I don't know, twelve years, I
Speaker 1: guess something like that. If LP didn't set the record
Speaker 1: for years served, he definitely like tied it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't have the most games. No, you know, Witten
Speaker 1: was like, you guys, gotta come on now. Never heard
Speaker 1: his voice ever, not once LP. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what he hounds. Not a big talker, not a very
Speaker 1: not a very friendly guy he would like. That's probably
Speaker 1: what you hear about voice, way more than is him
Speaker 1: as a long snipper. See, I'm I'm more than willing
Speaker 1: to acknowledge your contributions on the field, even if you
Speaker 1: weren't the nicest off of it. That's okay, I guess
Speaker 1: all right, let's go ahead and get into some of
Speaker 1: the we'll talk on this team. Let's talk about a
Speaker 1: couple guys on the injury report. Let's start first with
Speaker 1: jay Ron Kursey popped up yesterday on the injury report.
Speaker 1: Was limited, but Mike McCarthy had a couple of things
Speaker 1: to say. What do we hear Dave from McCarthy on him?
Speaker 1: He's got a hammy, didn't do well they walked through yesterday. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they're not expecting him to do a lot today, at
Speaker 1: least not at the outset. Questionable to play, which hey
Speaker 1: sit him? Oh no, a really good player can't play
Speaker 1: in this game and needs to take the week off. No,
Speaker 1: I hate that. I don't like getting my guys rest
Speaker 1: heading into the playoffs. Is also on the list limited.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're Pollard, so I'm sure you're probably thinking
Speaker 1: the same thing. They're like, please just sit him down.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just have to watch Edo Smith like terrible.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that, Like that was you and Lindsay
Speaker 1: doing that? Yeah, I was like, I've heard that somewhere before.
Speaker 1: But it's just my whiny baby voice. I mean, hopefully
Speaker 1: these guys are all okay, and it becomes a problem
Speaker 1: if they're not ready for the playoffs. But I thought
Speaker 1: that was kind of like y'all, sort of a Mickey voice.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of bits, Lindsay Draper, and I
Speaker 1: have a lot of bits. Lindsey me too, She says, Hi,
Speaker 1: I talked to her often. Her kids are great. Funny
Speaker 1: thing is I literally this was And I'm getting way
Speaker 1: off the track here, but you are this is literally
Speaker 1: a two or three months ago. Me and my wife
Speaker 1: were out. We never go out. We were out one
Speaker 1: night at a bar having drinks, and who runs up
Speaker 1: on us but Lindsay and her husband. And there is
Speaker 1: like a rooftop bar at a hotel and they're staying
Speaker 1: at the hotel. They're in town for the weekend. So
Speaker 1: we got to hang out with them a little bit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I miss her. I really miss sir same.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's find out about Blake Darwin. Like
Speaker 1: there was, there's news around him right His practice window
Speaker 1: has been activated, so he should be out there today.
Speaker 1: It's fun. So he got they have twenty one days
Speaker 1: to evaluate him. There's no rhyme or reason to what
Speaker 1: that means. If you remember, they activated Maurice Kennedy's practice
Speaker 1: window gave him like three hours to get ready and
Speaker 1: then activated him to the roster. Some guys they take
Speaker 1: all the way through the twenty one days. I think
Speaker 1: it just depends on how physically fit you are. He
Speaker 1: according to the rules, there's nothing stopping him from being
Speaker 1: activated and playing against Philly, but that'll probably depend on
Speaker 1: how he practices. That's a situation where you would love
Speaker 1: to get him out there and get him on the
Speaker 1: grass and just get him back in the flow of
Speaker 1: a football game before the playoffs. But even if that's
Speaker 1: not doable, it's very encouraging to think. I mean, he'll
Speaker 1: be available for the playoffs. That's just a guest by me.
Speaker 1: But if you're at practicing this week, that gives you
Speaker 1: next week. I think he'll be available for the playoffs. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm interested to see how they will
Speaker 1: do that. You know, how they'll use him, Um, if
Speaker 1: he is active, you know, say for the playoff game,
Speaker 1: because they like McEwen, Sprinkle gets some decent amount of
Speaker 1: snaps for blocking tight end. But they also can have
Speaker 1: all these other guys jumbo packages and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you would need the four
Speaker 1: tight ends. But yeah, I mean I definitely think you
Speaker 1: use them if he's out there, And I agree with David,
Speaker 1: if he's ready to play, I'd play him for this game.
Speaker 1: Just get him some snaps, get him back in the flow,
Speaker 1: because when the playoff game hits, it'll be That's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I'm like, if he's ready by then,
Speaker 1: by the playoff game for sure, at that point, how
Speaker 1: much work do you actually give him to where he
Speaker 1: is going to be productive for you with being on
Speaker 1: the field. He's been out for what is it now,
Speaker 1: long time, so it makes me wonder, like how much
Speaker 1: time does he really need us, like playing time to
Speaker 1: kind of get back into things and actually be productive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I just don't. I don't like the setup
Speaker 1: at tight end. I don't like these two tight ends
Speaker 1: as your tight ends because they don't block. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: You don't think that's a big deal. No, I mean yes,
Speaker 1: but I mean they both okay, they're both pass catchers,
Speaker 1: but they don't do what you want them to do
Speaker 1: to like two tight end set. Could they run? Could
Speaker 1: they pass? They're probably gonna pass because they're not gonna
Speaker 1: They don't get an advantage by having two tight ends
Speaker 1: that just maul you and run. These aren't the two
Speaker 1: tight ends sets that create this mismatch problems, because they
Speaker 1: are problems sometimes in the running game. But I will
Speaker 1: say this, there have been I think there have been
Speaker 1: games this year where Dalton Schultz has been pretty good blocker.
Speaker 1: I know there have been players where I've seen him
Speaker 1: make some really good blocks. And that doesn't mean he's
Speaker 1: a consistent blocker. That doesn't mean he reminds me of
Speaker 1: what Jason Witten was for a lot of his career.
Speaker 1: Like I think early in his career he got the
Speaker 1: reputation of being a really great blocker, and I think
Speaker 1: he was earlier. I think as he got into his career,
Speaker 1: he was a willing block in the way, which means
Speaker 1: he knew how to get in the way, he knew
Speaker 1: how to position his body, and in doing so, he
Speaker 1: could create the right kinds of opportunities I kind of
Speaker 1: lanes for running game. I think Dalton Schultz has become
Speaker 1: that kind of blocker. He's not horrible at it. I'm
Speaker 1: fine any and I'm fine with that. Yeah, don't need
Speaker 1: two of them. See I actually I disagree, And it's
Speaker 1: not they're not They're they're not. Yeah, we need that, right,
Speaker 1: we do every once in a while. At least. They're
Speaker 1: not great blockers, and we've there. You can go pull
Speaker 1: up the tape of both of them failing in especially
Speaker 1: in space, going all the way. But what you just like,
Speaker 1: you always like, I feel like you're gonna interject, even
Speaker 1: though I'm about to agree with you. Okay, I want
Speaker 1: to I want to hear you go, so go. They're
Speaker 1: not great blockers, they're not good in space, they're not
Speaker 1: good one on one. But what they do, and especially
Speaker 1: they work in tandem, like when they run twelve personnel
Speaker 1: with these guys, they're almost always next to each other,
Speaker 1: and together they can be useful in that regard. They
Speaker 1: can seal off the backside. They can keep a guy
Speaker 1: from coming around the edge and that opens up their
Speaker 1: back to get where he needs to get without somebody
Speaker 1: chasing him down. They can do that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: And they're both really at athletic. So if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: go twelve personnel with Blake, Dalton, Cooper and CD and
Speaker 1: you load the box because it's twelve personnel and you
Speaker 1: think they're gonna run, well, you're screwed now because you
Speaker 1: got two really athletic tight ends who can get out
Speaker 1: in space on top of your receiver personnel, and if
Speaker 1: you drop back because you're worried about what they can
Speaker 1: do in the passing game, they're good enough to be
Speaker 1: plus blockers together. Like it's they're not Marty B. They're
Speaker 1: not just gonna mash the front side, d end on
Speaker 1: their own and hold the edge so you can get
Speaker 1: around them. But together they can do just enough to
Speaker 1: make the running game viable while making you respect the
Speaker 1: passing game. Yep, I agree with that. I know That's
Speaker 1: why I got frustrated because I was like, you're gonna
Speaker 1: try to make my point for me. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I will say this too.
Speaker 1: I will say when it comes to the twelve personnel,
Speaker 1: I think that's what he can add to this, because
Speaker 1: what we were talking about back when they were coming
Speaker 1: into the season was where are you gonna go twelve?
Speaker 1: Or are you gonna go third? Or are you gonna
Speaker 1: go I'm sorry eleven. When you have Michael Gallup and
Speaker 1: you had those tree wide receivers, it was kind of
Speaker 1: that well, which which gives you an advantage. Well, now
Speaker 1: without Gallup, I actually think that you might have a
Speaker 1: little bit more of an advantage having those two tight
Speaker 1: ends with two wide receivers, because you can do some
Speaker 1: different things with Jarwin up the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: which I don't think they've exploited quite enough this year.
Speaker 1: I think they use cd in in that role some,
Speaker 1: but I think they can do more with that. And
Speaker 1: it's funny because I think I think Blake has ten
Speaker 1: catches on the year, Like I don't think he even
Speaker 1: has one hundred receiving yards on the year. Like I
Speaker 1: don't want to, I definitely don't want to blow this
Speaker 1: out of proportion like this is he does. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I just think his ten catches for ninety and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about bringing Kelsey into the lineup, you know,
Speaker 1: but his skill set. I don't think it's a coincidence
Speaker 1: that when they lost that personnel grouping that was when
Speaker 1: they were at their best. It was when they had
Speaker 1: they love twelve personnel. Kellen Moore loves it. They've been
Speaker 1: using it like a quarter of the time, even with
Speaker 1: all the receivers that they have, and I just don't
Speaker 1: think it's been the same since Blake left. And so
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a magic pill. But
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic that this could be really beneficial for them.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, my point. Really, they'll be fine in
Speaker 1: these couple of games. I don't think it's going to
Speaker 1: be the make or break in the playoffs or whatever.
Speaker 1: But you do have some decisions to make coming up
Speaker 1: next year. You've already paid Blake Dalton. Schultz is getting
Speaker 1: close to eighty catches for a season. He might be gone,
Speaker 1: I mean, and he probably will be. But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think you signed both of them. I think
Speaker 1: you need. I mean, I don't think you have both
Speaker 1: of those contracts here, but I mean if you had
Speaker 1: to pick one of the two, I mean, wouldn't be Schultz. Well, well,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the conversation we definitely will have
Speaker 1: because I think, yeah, that's offseason conversation because and the
Speaker 1: reason why I say that's because I do think you
Speaker 1: have a very tough decision there to make, Because it's
Speaker 1: not so much that of the preference of one or
Speaker 1: the other. It's about how much Dalton's gonna cost you.
Speaker 1: That may be a very well, relatively expensive it's it
Speaker 1: might be a contract more expensive than you thought you
Speaker 1: would have coming into this season just based upon his
Speaker 1: production this year. All we're gonna take our first break
Speaker 1: and we come back. We got Bucky on the line.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about the Philadelphia offense versus a
Speaker 1: Dallas defense. We'll do that when we come right back.
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Speaker 1: in s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We are
Speaker 1: joined right now by Bucky Brooks and NFL Network. Bucky,
Speaker 1: you were listening in on that last conversation that we
Speaker 1: had about Blake Jarlin and his return, what he might
Speaker 1: bring to this team once he returns. Tell me what
Speaker 1: your thoughts are on them. Look at me. I think
Speaker 1: it may be a blessing in disguise for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: if that's the boom, because what it may do it
Speaker 1: may force Killing Moore and Mike McCarthy to balance up
Speaker 1: the office little bit, not just in terms of run fast,
Speaker 1: but in terms of formation diversity. Killing Moore was the
Speaker 1: guy that played a boy the state Chris Peterson with
Speaker 1: the head coach, that they utilize a lot of motions
Speaker 1: and shifts to kind of change up the look and
Speaker 1: what it does. And here's the advantage of twelve personnel.
Speaker 1: It adds extra gap for the running game. And so
Speaker 1: regardless of whether the guy can block or not, from
Speaker 1: a defensive perspective, do you have to account for the
Speaker 1: extra gaps when you have an extra body at the
Speaker 1: end of the line, whether it's tight end on either
Speaker 1: side or tight ends in a wing formation. And so
Speaker 1: what it does is it makes the defense after just
Speaker 1: it also creates some opportunities maybe where you can create
Speaker 1: one on one coverage for a Marit Cooper and Cde Lamb,
Speaker 1: And so it may not be all bad. Then they
Speaker 1: have to use a little more twelve personnel because it
Speaker 1: could help them not only in the running game, but
Speaker 1: in the passing Again, So just so I'm clear on
Speaker 1: what kind of what you're saying is is with Jarwin
Speaker 1: out there as opposed to a Connor McGovern, they might
Speaker 1: lose a little bit in the space blocking, but this
Speaker 1: the versatility of Jarwin could do more things, is probably
Speaker 1: more beneficial. Is that what you're saying, Well, yeah, because
Speaker 1: then as a defensive coordinated you got to make a decision. Okay,
Speaker 1: how do we want to treat there? It in do
Speaker 1: you want to treat them as a wide receiver? Do
Speaker 1: you want to treat them as tight ends? Do you
Speaker 1: want to put a base personnel or nickel personnel on
Speaker 1: the field. And depending upon how you kind of do
Speaker 1: the alignment, you put both tight ends on one side
Speaker 1: and the NCD Lamb and Cooper on the other side.
Speaker 1: You put them where the wide receivers are wide and
Speaker 1: to tied end or inside. There are a bunch of
Speaker 1: different things that you can do to create one on
Speaker 1: one matchup. Now. I don't know if tell them more
Speaker 1: of want to get into his bag like that versus Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: But it has to be something that's the thought because
Speaker 1: when you get into the postseason, you got to have
Speaker 1: something that you may not have shown. A wrinkle, a trick,
Speaker 1: a gimmick, something to just roll opponents off. And so
Speaker 1: it may give them an opportunity to be a little
Speaker 1: more diverse and some of their formation and alignments and
Speaker 1: maybe even some of the play coling to be used.
Speaker 1: Buck going back to the Eagles, I mean, all I
Speaker 1: keep hearing about is how well the Eagles have run
Speaker 1: the ball since they kind of got their act together.
Speaker 1: Am shoot, it was week three. It feels like a
Speaker 1: lifetime and goo since then. So just when people say that,
Speaker 1: I mean, what exactly are they doing? And I know
Speaker 1: they got guys on the COVID list for the purposes
Speaker 1: of this, let's just pretend like they don't. What are
Speaker 1: they doing that's making them so successful running the ball?
Speaker 1: They become the NFL's version of Oklahoma. Basically, they're lining
Speaker 1: up and running Jim and Hurst's offense from Oklahoma. He
Speaker 1: is that quarterback. He's a sent a piece of the offense.
Speaker 1: He's not Lamar Jackson, but they used them like Lamar Jacklins.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the center, the focus on the running game.
Speaker 1: And so when the quarterback runs and you got GT
Speaker 1: pool garden tackle pool counters, read game, it changes how
Speaker 1: you have to play on defense. And because so few
Speaker 1: teams jutilize the quarterback like that, it's like playing Army
Speaker 1: and Navy in a week. And so when they went
Speaker 1: to that move, the offense exploded. They were rushing for
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five per game over like five
Speaker 1: or six games. Stretch and the crazy They weren't even
Speaker 1: using the mouth standards at that point. Then they started
Speaker 1: incorporating the running backs and all that other stuff. It
Speaker 1: gave them an identity and some confidence. And so the
Speaker 1: problems that you've seen teams have with Baltimore in San
Speaker 1: Francisco when they begin to utilize all the fucking stuff
Speaker 1: from Shotgun with jet sweeps and fly sweeps and quarterback run, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's problematic. And now they have so much confidence in
Speaker 1: it that they feel like they can beat you up.
Speaker 1: And it's made them a more physical and a tougher team,
Speaker 1: which has also hit their defense. Bucky, what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on playing the starters? This is a game where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys kind of start out slow and it goes
Speaker 1: into the second half where you're still kind of trailing behind.
Speaker 1: Do you keep the starters in, do you pull them out?
Speaker 1: What do you do? Well? It's a trade. White. If
Speaker 1: you told me that last week that the Cowboys played
Speaker 1: well against the Cardinals and everything was butting up, I
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, give me talk could be fresh and
Speaker 1: ready to go in the playoffs. Because they didn't play
Speaker 1: as well, I think they have to play a little more. Now.
Speaker 1: You don't want to risk injury because the only thing
Speaker 1: that you're playing for maybe is seating. But it seems
Speaker 1: like you're already locked in to Arizona, So you kind
Speaker 1: of want to treat this like one of the final
Speaker 1: preseason games. You want to give them enough work if
Speaker 1: you're good about going into the postseason, but you don't
Speaker 1: want to expose them too much because you want everyone
Speaker 1: available and ready to playing the post seasons. All Right,
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this team, and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: what they have done so far this year in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: I'm talking about and I noticed the fact that they
Speaker 1: have not beaten a single team that's over five hundred.
Speaker 1: Their best wins came against New Orleans, who's eight and eight, Denver,
Speaker 1: who's seven and nine, in Atlanta, who's seven and nine.
Speaker 1: Is their record recently in their production and then getting
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Is all that a reflection of the
Speaker 1: opponents that they've played, or do you think that team
Speaker 1: is good enough to actually make some noise in the playoffs? Look? Man,
Speaker 1: look you are what your rector says you are? Is
Speaker 1: that what Bill Bull says? Yeah? Um, they haven't beaten
Speaker 1: any major teams, but all they can do is be
Speaker 1: the teams that are on this KIP. I would just
Speaker 1: say that their style of play is tricky and if
Speaker 1: you're not ready for quarterback run game, you're not ready
Speaker 1: for some of the re option stuff and power be
Speaker 1: stuff that they do. Yeah, it can get ugly at times.
Speaker 1: Um are they the best team you know? But a
Speaker 1: team playing with a bunch of confidence that somehow found
Speaker 1: their way into the postseason tournament when no one expected
Speaker 1: to be there. They're dangerous team and for them, man,
Speaker 1: they would love nothing better than a knockoffs down. So
Speaker 1: they're gonna be ready to play, regardless of who's playing,
Speaker 1: how long they play, and so it's one of those
Speaker 1: games where you gotta get ready, gonna buckle up that
Speaker 1: they're gonna play. It's a robbery game. Fucky. Do you
Speaker 1: vote for players of the year? Do you get that
Speaker 1: vote for like APT defense Player of the Year and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just get I just get to do the Twitter stuff.
Speaker 1: That's it. It's good since since you don't have to,
Speaker 1: since you're not revealing your vote. Who would be your
Speaker 1: comeback player of the year in the NFL? Man definitely
Speaker 1: back player of the year. I mean, it's loaded because
Speaker 1: nobody was saying Jack. But I think Dak's paid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of made it hard. Um, Cincinnati, I mean, Joe Burr.
Speaker 1: You can't count Joe Burrows a comeback player, can you?
Speaker 1: Like you can't, But like, how many games did he wins?
Speaker 1: He like all the legaments in his knee. I think
Speaker 1: if he's if he's Ellible Ford, then I would just
Speaker 1: dave a ball and go with it. I mean, just
Speaker 1: just because there's something to seeing him coast look like
Speaker 1: he does in the locker room. You see him with
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and Tyler Boyd, he cigars up. You see
Speaker 1: him with a back Taylor and everybody else. He's super corporate.
Speaker 1: I give him credit because he's one of the best
Speaker 1: that I've seen from a leadership perspective of being able
Speaker 1: to bring everybody an So, yeah, if he's Dollible, he
Speaker 1: definitely should be not only comeback player of the year.
Speaker 1: I think you got to talk in the MVP conversation, Okay, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't hate that. I mean because I'll say this.
Speaker 1: I was in Cincinnati last year when the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: a bad football team and dominated that train wreck of
Speaker 1: a team. But Brandon Allen and those guys they were
Speaker 1: bad and to think that three hundred and sixty five
Speaker 1: days later that here they are winning a tough division.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a tough, gritty division. And to win
Speaker 1: it with him, Yeah, he's pretty valuable. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the difference is I think a couple of things
Speaker 1: that I learnt from watching Cincinnati kind of about back. One.
Speaker 1: Quarterback is everything, and quarterback has to go beyond what
Speaker 1: they look like, how they throw it or whatever. It's
Speaker 1: more field and intangible, and that's are the culture changes
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Technically, they did a good job
Speaker 1: on defense, and no one talks about their defense. If
Speaker 1: you want to be a team that is blue collar
Speaker 1: and you pride yourself and being like a try hard,
Speaker 1: work hard team, you have to get guys that embody
Speaker 1: that Trey Hendricks and Sam Hubbard, even Cheeto when he
Speaker 1: was playing, he was doing a good job everybody on
Speaker 1: their defense the brand, and I think that is the
Speaker 1: big thing that you have to do when you reading
Speaker 1: your team. Buck. I'm interested in one of the last
Speaker 1: things you said about the Eagles. It's possible they played
Speaker 1: Dallas in the playoffs, but not super likely. If I
Speaker 1: had to guess it's looking like they're gonna play the
Speaker 1: Rams or maybe the Buccaneers. Is there a team that
Speaker 1: you think the Eagles match up really well with in
Speaker 1: the sense that you know they might be the seventh seed,
Speaker 1: but they could give somebody fits. I think it gets them.
Speaker 1: You're okay playing the ram because the Ram's biggest issue
Speaker 1: had been when people have stocked him in the mouth.
Speaker 1: Physical football teams have given them problems. We saw him
Speaker 1: struggle last week. Could get in Baltimore, but the backup
Speaker 1: quarterback in Tyler Huntley and a team that has been
Speaker 1: ravaged by injuries. So you're the Philadelphia Eagles, You're okay
Speaker 1: lining up and having to play Matthew Stafford. And that
Speaker 1: because even though the Ramblers motivates, star powered and they
Speaker 1: may be the best team that emerges in the NFC,
Speaker 1: I think you take your chances on being able to
Speaker 1: deal with the team. Then more to death and powers
Speaker 1: other than winning this game and having no injuries, are
Speaker 1: what are you looking for in this game? Cowboy's got
Speaker 1: to get back on track. Like I don't like some
Speaker 1: of the things that came out of the last game.
Speaker 1: I don't like all the wine. And then crying about
Speaker 1: officiating and that stuff, because to me it may be
Speaker 1: paused a little bit because it springs up immaturity. And
Speaker 1: I just need to see them play well because despite
Speaker 1: the bad cause, a lot of the issues that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had were self inflicted. And when you have turnovers,
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of penalties, you have errors in
Speaker 1: the kicking game, and you give up big plays over
Speaker 1: the top of the defense, you're going to lose game.
Speaker 1: And so that part of it needs to be cleaned
Speaker 1: up because for the majority of the season, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are being great at those areas and so I don't
Speaker 1: like trans happening. So I want to see that be erased.
Speaker 1: So they play well against Philadelphia and to claim for
Speaker 1: ball game? And did you feel better about what? Did chance?
Speaker 1: Starting to post? You? All right? Buck, We'll appreciate you man.
Speaker 1: We'll have you back tomorrow. We'll talk about this Philadelphia
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Speaker 1: break comeback. I have some questions for these guys about
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Final segment of the Break Life in s
Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, we're talking Philadelphia offense
Speaker 1: in Dallas defense. I did have a question for you
Speaker 1: guys about this defense and how they match up against Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Right now, Dallas is twenty fourth NFL. There ranked twenty
Speaker 1: fourth in rushing yards per attempt at four point giving
Speaker 1: up four point five yards per tempt. Do you see
Speaker 1: the rush defense as a problem for Dallas because there
Speaker 1: have been some games it's been kind of like shaky,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they've been killed by it.
Speaker 1: Do you see it as a weakness. They've been killed
Speaker 1: by it one time and it was Denver in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and everybody on the team admits that they forgot to
Speaker 1: show up for that game. So no, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: they're not great, but I've never felt like it was
Speaker 1: just this this issue that's going to kill them, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, it's not like last year.
Speaker 1: Last year that was a big problem. It was the
Speaker 1: worst I've ever seen. I've seen high schools that play
Speaker 1: the run better than last year's. Y. Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 1: But to my point, it's like when they're doing so
Speaker 1: much else for you and it's not you're not walking
Speaker 1: out of a game and we get on this show
Speaker 1: talking man that run defense, they just absolutely suck. Well,
Speaker 1: they're not great or the best at it, but they're
Speaker 1: giving you so much more to the point where you're
Speaker 1: not necessarily complaining about it that much. So it could
Speaker 1: come back and bite you in the butt in the
Speaker 1: playoffs if they're unable to perform in other areas on
Speaker 1: the field. So as of right now, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a huge I would rather take what
Speaker 1: they're doing right now. It's it's the same as almost
Speaker 1: every other facet of the Cowboys game, you know, it
Speaker 1: really is. I mean, look at the run defense. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: they're not world beaters. They don't. They don't get gashed
Speaker 1: every time either. I mean, I think it's the same
Speaker 1: as the secondary. I think it's the same as the
Speaker 1: passing game. I think it's the same as the kicker,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can say, oh, you
Speaker 1: want to about the kicker missing kicks. He's hit some
Speaker 1: big kicks too, and so is that the biggest problem
Speaker 1: for the same though that there's it's like they're not bad.
Speaker 1: They're not great, but they're not bad. But like the
Speaker 1: everybody just is this gonna be a problem. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be problems and it might be. I mean, think
Speaker 1: about the Colts back in I think it was like
Speaker 1: twenty two thousand and five. Vander Jack was their kicker.
Speaker 1: I don't think he missed a kick all year. He
Speaker 1: didn't miss a kick until the championship game and he
Speaker 1: missed and they didn't go to the super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: it can go the other way. I mean, you just
Speaker 1: gotta go play the damn game. Like that's it. You
Speaker 1: just gotta play the game. And so they've got some issues,
Speaker 1: like they're just kind of in the middle. I also think,
Speaker 1: I mean this, this team's potential is unlocked when they're
Speaker 1: playing up to their offensive ability. That's when they've been
Speaker 1: their best. And I think a big part of their
Speaker 1: run defense not being a liability is they take that
Speaker 1: away from you. The Saints also ran all over them
Speaker 1: until they were put in a position where they couldn't
Speaker 1: do that anymore. And then what happened. They started throwing
Speaker 1: picks because Taysom Hill's awful, and I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that's a big part of their game plan. And it's
Speaker 1: not totally fair because Kyler Murray is unique. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's only so much you can do to contain
Speaker 1: a guy like that. But the Cardinals got the ball
Speaker 1: back with how many minutes to play the other day
Speaker 1: and they ran the clock out ye, And so, like
Speaker 1: I said, it's not totally fair comparison because of who
Speaker 1: Kyler is. But if you wind up in that situation,
Speaker 1: like let's just say they're in Lambeau, do I completely
Speaker 1: trust that they can stop aj Dillon and Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: from pounding on them until the clock runs out? Not really,
Speaker 1: but well, they're gonna have like good four days to
Speaker 1: prepare for that or so why four or five? I
Speaker 1: mean whatever, No I know, but just I guess my
Speaker 1: point is. And of course, the deeper you get into
Speaker 1: the playoffs, the better the teams you're gonna play, and
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to build these second half leads.
Speaker 1: But just like everything else, it's on the offense to
Speaker 1: take some of that strain off the defense. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're all we've all been very clear. This
Speaker 1: defense is fantastic. There are such a huge success story,
Speaker 1: but they're not at their best if the offense isn't
Speaker 1: putting them in a better position. One thing to note
Speaker 1: that I think we all should remember is that first
Speaker 1: game Cowboys played against it Philly, and the argument can
Speaker 1: be made that Philly is a very different team. Now.
Speaker 1: Eight of the first offense, not eight of the first
Speaker 1: nine offensive plays run by Philadelphia where passes they came
Speaker 1: out with the hint that they were going to throw. Now,
Speaker 1: they did throw an interception in those in those plays,
Speaker 1: but they went into that game, whether it was strategic,
Speaker 1: whether it was before they found their identity as this
Speaker 1: running team, they came in that game with the intention
Speaker 1: that they were going to try to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: We'll see if that's going to be their intention this week,
Speaker 1: but I suspect it's not on a twenty degree night
Speaker 1: outside in Philly. I don't think, and by the way
Speaker 1: that their identity, as some would change. I don't know
Speaker 1: that they had this identity of this running team back then.
Speaker 1: But we will see, and we'll see if if they're
Speaker 1: they're strategic, they go into this game strategically thinking we
Speaker 1: got to put up points, and that forces them out
Speaker 1: of what they want to do. Maybe I'm just the
Speaker 1: hater and we won't really know, probably because the Eagles
Speaker 1: are going to have guys missing because of COVID. I
Speaker 1: still think the Cowboys are probably gonna do what Bucky
Speaker 1: said and kind of be smart about snap counts. But Vegas,
Speaker 1: what's I don't even know the spread like seven and
Speaker 1: a half Dallas. Yeah, that's weird to me. But I
Speaker 1: don't think Philly is a different team. I'm sorry, the
Speaker 1: same thing. I think they're They've benefited from playing a
Speaker 1: lot of in the league's trash at The Cowboys have
Speaker 1: only blown out one playoff team and that's Philly. And
Speaker 1: I know the Philly is different than they were, but
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe not that much different. But but the
Speaker 1: other two, you know, Patriots and the Chargers are not in.
Speaker 1: But I think that they're gonna get in. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: they took walk off touchdowns and then and then the
Speaker 1: other playoff teams they didn't beat. So who would you say,
Speaker 1: out of the two teams Cowboys and Eagles is playing
Speaker 1: for the most in this game that would go in
Speaker 1: that game. The Cowboys. The Cowboys, Well, a good question,
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys a little bit because they their percentage,
Speaker 1: I mean, their chances of moving to three and even
Speaker 1: or two. Philly doesn't I mean, Philly doesn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of time. I mean, and even here's the thing,
Speaker 1: even if they moved from seven to six, I mean
Speaker 1: seven to six, he doesn't change anything. They're not getting
Speaker 1: a home game. All it's gonna change is who they're
Speaker 1: gonna face, right and unless that seven team loses, I
Speaker 1: mean wins, then they're not gonna get home. They can
Speaker 1: have the Rams because I'm telling you, like, I like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys chances of beating any other team in the
Speaker 1: NFC more than the Rams. And seriously, I don't like
Speaker 1: you think the Rams are the toughest matchup for the Cap.
Speaker 1: Without a doubt. I believe that more Southern Green Bay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate to say that, I do, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I just don't think they would beat the Rams. The Rams,
Speaker 1: to me have Italy, and I know they have issues.
Speaker 1: I mean, they lose, but I take my chance of
Speaker 1: Stafford's dying to give the ball away. I know he's
Speaker 1: dying to throw picks Cooper Cup. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: I just think. I mean, they have three of the
Speaker 1: very best players at their position in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: I think that is I mean, and maybe even four.
Speaker 1: I mean, when von Miller is playing and really on
Speaker 1: his game, he definitely up there up got he got
Speaker 1: the corner of Ramsey, I mean, you got Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: is just a nightmare to to stop. And there the
Speaker 1: way that makes faith. I mean, they end up getting
Speaker 1: a lot out of Beckham right now too. He's he'sn't
Speaker 1: at von Miller cap Gary of when he's at his best,
Speaker 1: he could be right up there with the best. He
Speaker 1: seems to do it when the Cowboys are on the
Speaker 1: other side. So to go back to your question, I
Speaker 1: think you also have to remember the Eagles are just
Speaker 1: happy to be here, like they're I'm not that's not
Speaker 1: to throw shade, I'm dead serious. They should be thrilled.
Speaker 1: They're in the first year of a new regime. They're
Speaker 1: kind of in a rebuild, you know, they're all year long,
Speaker 1: like they're focused on what they're gonna get out of
Speaker 1: the Carson Wentz trade and the Dolphins trade. Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have all these picks next year. They got
Speaker 1: they can rebuild that thing. Who do they have who
Speaker 1: do they have cap space committed to right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They got money? Right? Good about where we're going. If
Speaker 1: you're an Eagles fan, you're like, man, were we made
Speaker 1: the playoffs with this? This is great? And meanwhile, the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you got big money everywhere you started six and one, Like,
Speaker 1: if they don't get to the conference championship game, it'll
Speaker 1: be a disappointing season. Philly's not thinking like that. So,
Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys have way more to gain and
Speaker 1: way more to lose. Three picks, Yeah, first rounders, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean wins only Wentz had to play seventy
Speaker 1: five percent of the snaps. As long as he plays
Speaker 1: this game on Sunday, he'll hit that it's not about
Speaker 1: them making the playoffs, it's about his snaps. Yeah. Oh
Speaker 1: well then yeah, but they won't be It won't be
Speaker 1: a great pick because the Colts will probably be in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But like, so they'll pick Philly will own.
Speaker 1: There's Indies and Miami's first round picks. So they're gon,
Speaker 1: Miami is gonna be love What about did Yeah? Something
Speaker 1: like that. So you got three picks that'll be like
Speaker 1: in that fifteen to twenty something range and which you
Speaker 1: can not beat. Yeah, you can use that to move
Speaker 1: if you want. When you could move. He Hurts has
Speaker 1: played well enough that maybe you don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about now. I'm not saying a great quarterback draft. I
Speaker 1: don't think people I've been reading. I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: your quarterback of the future. But he's been good enough
Speaker 1: that you're like, well, let's address the line, let's do this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot about that that makes me a little
Speaker 1: worried about what Philly can become over the next few years.
Speaker 1: No doubt about that. All Right, we're gonna we appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys, you wantas We'll be back tomorrow. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about Cowboys offense versus this Philadelphia defensiltant for Nick Eatman,
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