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Speaker 2: There are four turnings, each one roughly twenty years or

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Speaker 4: The first turning is the high, like the fifties, that

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Speaker 8: Oh, this is the primal scream of a dying regime.

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Speaker 11: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 11: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 1: If that answer is to save my country? This country

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Speaker 12: It's Wednesday, one January, in the year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 11: How does that sound. It's got to flow to it,

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Speaker 12: You're here in the war room and it's our New

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Speaker 12: Year's Day Special and I'm going to be joined today

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Speaker 12: by our own Joe Allen. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 12: We're going to get into this whole thing that's going

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Speaker 11: And all of it.

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Speaker 12: But in our New Year's Day show we try to

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Speaker 12: Now we're going to begin I think twenty twenty five

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Speaker 12: call him, our sociopathic elite globalist tech overlords. Sir, can

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Speaker 5: Yes, Stein, I think you said that up perfectly.

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Speaker 10: Only I would add that the fight now in twenty

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Speaker 5: The America First Movement.

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Speaker 10: President Trump has most all the cards in his hand

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Speaker 10: to do what he needs to do, to do what

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Speaker 5: These things are not going down well.

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Speaker 10: With the base, with the movement, and I think that's

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Speaker 10: now twenty twenty five, not next year. This year, we're

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Speaker 10: going to work out exactly what this movement intends to do,

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Speaker 11: On let's pull it back.

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Speaker 12: When we look at the geopolitics and in the world stage,

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Speaker 12: You've been our closest because you're the outpost in Rome

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Speaker 10: You know, I'd like to say, look, go and have picnics, relaxed, chill.

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Speaker 10: We won the election in November, so look, you know

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Speaker 5: It's not going to be like that.

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Speaker 10: I think really now more than ever before, more than

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Speaker 11: Don't even know if that's a word.

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Speaker 12: Year in not just our nation's history, but the world's history.

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Speaker 12: We started with my film Generation zero about turnings. We're

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Speaker 12: Okay, that's the Robert Shaw Corral and I love I've

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Speaker 11: Ben joins us from the Eternal City from Rome.

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Speaker 12: Ben, when I say this is going to be the

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Speaker 11: He went back.

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Speaker 12: His principal thing was Athens and Sparta, and the one

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Speaker 12: This is a very important construct for the war and

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Speaker 11: Walk me through that again.

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Speaker 10: So it's as I understand that this principle of the

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Speaker 5: This happens throughout human history.

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Speaker 10: But when there's large hegemon hegomonic power that is overtaken

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Speaker 10: Call it what you will, this entity that is always

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Speaker 5: Is a city is a relationship between a movement and

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump was elected by the people with a popular

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Speaker 10: And we know Steve from human history. People will kill

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, I heard he watched the film like two hundred

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Speaker 11: That Hamilton woman, so Ben Harnwell on a Now, why

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Speaker 11: am I doing that? I don't know. It's eight years.

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Speaker 11: The film's kind of based around New Year's and beginnings.

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Speaker 11: It's always been a people know.

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Speaker 12: I'm a Vivian Leaf fan, and I've always been amazed

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Speaker 12: which she carries against the top leading men of her day,

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Speaker 12: Clark Gable, Robert Taylor, Sir Lawrence Olivier.

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Speaker 11: She carries all three films and steals every scene.

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Speaker 12: And that Hamilton woman absolutely central kind of the how

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Speaker 12: how a little nation like Great Britain can stand, can

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Speaker 12: trying to have made the time of Great Britain standing

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Speaker 12: in the breach against Adolf Hitler. Your thoughts, sir, well,

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Speaker 12: see you want to sague right, I'll give you one.

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Speaker 10: I'm going to pick leap of you talking about Checkers,

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Speaker 10: which is is the weekend count retreat of British prime

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Speaker 10: ministers historically, Let's talk about who might be a future

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Speaker 10: tenant of Checkers. You asked me, Stee, if you remember

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Speaker 10: a year ago, exactly a year ago on a New

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Speaker 10: Year's Eve show, not literally a year then twenty sixty

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Speaker 10: four days ago. You asked me to identify the story

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Speaker 10: I picked the story I picked.

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Speaker 5: I know Rahiem's going to be on later.

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Speaker 10: The story I picked was the replacement of the Toy

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Speaker 10: Party the British Conservative Party, the world's oldest political party,

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Speaker 10: by Nigel Farage. And over the course of the last

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Speaker 10: twelve months, I have to say that prediction has been

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Speaker 10: pretty spot on. Just recently a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 10: that the latest polls basically all three major political parties

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Speaker 5: The margin of help.

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Speaker 10: Reforms are slightly ahead, if you want to know, specifically,

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Speaker 10: slightly ahead of the Tories and Labor slightly ahead of reform.

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Speaker 10: But it's all margin novever stuff. It's all banging around

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Speaker 10: twenty five percent. If this right, If this trend continues

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Speaker 10: next year, that will be I think Nigel Farwars will

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Speaker 10: be Prime Minister.

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Speaker 5: If this trend continues.

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Speaker 10: You ask me just a short while ago other things

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Speaker 10: talk about the growth and strength of Reform UK without

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Speaker 10: just mentioning what's happening with the AfD in Germany. That

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Speaker 10: they have an election in February. February, I think they're

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Speaker 10: to increase in the polls by about eight or nine.

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Speaker 10: They are presently nine percent ahead of where they were

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Speaker 10: in the last election and looking to gain about fifty

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Speaker 10: percent of their seats from about eighty something up to

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Speaker 10: about one hundred.

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Speaker 5: And ten hundred and twenty seats.

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Speaker 10: And that will have massive repercussions for the whole of

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Speaker 10: the European Union, because Germany is the largest economy, largest

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Speaker 10: growth and strength of the AfD in that country that

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Speaker 10: will manifest itself, then that will have, as I say,

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Speaker 10: repercussions across The best of the European Union is.

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Speaker 12: The Europe is the European Union in NATO, and all

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Speaker 12: of it going the way of the Holy Roman Empire.

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Speaker 10: That was thanks to Napoleon right a thousand year effectively

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Speaker 10: that the Holy Roman Empire, one thousand year long rain

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Speaker 10: that's kicked off on Christmas Day eighteen hundred by Charlemagne

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Speaker 10: and all of those Habsburg Finally they orders appeared by

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Speaker 5: Is this going the way?

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Speaker 10: You know? I would sooner say he of the famed

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Speaker 10: say that occupied Europe is going together way of Constantinople,

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Speaker 5: Sub sub nations.

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Speaker 10: Pretty much led at the end hanging on the Austro

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Speaker 10: and then that that petered out the First World War.

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Speaker 10: But the country's state intact more or less what we're

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Speaker 10: going to see in Europe, I think it is a

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Speaker 10: far more substantial change to the whole fabric of the nation.

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Speaker 10: It'll be more akin to the fall of the Roman Empire,

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Speaker 10: I think, than the Holy Roman Empire.

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Speaker 12: Do you why do you think before I know, you

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Speaker 12: get a bounce, But on this New Year's Day and

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Speaker 12: looking forward and we have all the things a protect

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Speaker 12: the conversion for President Trump, why do you think? I mean,

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Speaker 12: what's your argument for the intensity and the complexity and

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Speaker 12: the urgency, but most important the consequences of this year.

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Speaker 10: Well, probably if you're talking about the United States, which

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Speaker 10: is culturally, economically, militarily the most powerful nation on the planet.

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Speaker 10: It's intense both within the United States and because of

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Speaker 10: the importance of the United States for the rest of

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Speaker 10: the populist nationalist movements. I can only go back to

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Speaker 10: what I said before, This movement, this America First movement,

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Speaker 10: has a lot of work to do this year in

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty five to see what the potential of the

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Speaker 10: Trump administration is what direction that goes. There are some

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Speaker 10: good things to look at, there are some less positive things,

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Speaker 10: but that's to be expected, right, That is entirely to

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Speaker 10: be expected.

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Speaker 5: We're not going to ever get everything.

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Speaker 10: That we want, but in four years we can move

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Speaker 10: a long way towards it, Which is why I was

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Speaker 10: saying that this movement.

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Speaker 5: Needs to stand.

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Speaker 10: As attentive as it has been doing it over the

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Speaker 10: last few years. The reason it's so intense, Steve looking

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Speaker 10: at specifically addressing myself specifically to the United States, but

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Speaker 10: it's pretty much the same across the European Union is

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Speaker 10: that half the population draws its sustenance, its income, it's

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Speaker 10: have normal, ordinary, regular working jobs in the private sector.

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Speaker 10: And they're not going to give up their privileges willingly.

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Speaker 10: And that's why it's intense. And they've never really been

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Speaker 10: threatened seriously in the past. What Donald Trump has it

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Speaker 10: with this popular man behind him with his let's even mention,

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Speaker 10: let's even mention on this subject, Elon Musk, what he

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Speaker 10: has with with with Twitter with x at his disposal,

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Speaker 10: but at Donald Trump's disposal is something that this system

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Speaker 10: has never had to confront before. And they are going

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Speaker 10: to be fighting for their for their livelihoods, this half

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Speaker 10: of the nation, which which exists off the back of

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Speaker 5: That's why it's intense, and that's to be entirely human nature,

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Speaker 5: it's entirely to be expected. But these people are going

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Speaker 5: to fight to protect to protect their prerogatives.

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Speaker 10: Just like the regime fought and fought and fought in

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Speaker 10: and in the end, well we know what happened in

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Speaker 10: seventy and eighty nine.

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Speaker 5: It was it was swept aside. And you've used this

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Speaker 10: In America, Steve in the States, your famous quote, there's

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Speaker 10: telling I'm telling the billionaires all the time that we're

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Speaker 10: heading into a French revolution period. That's absolutely the case.

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Speaker 10: That is the dynamic, and it's not a consequence of

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Speaker 10: the free market. It's a consequence of the system having

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Speaker 10: been gained in favor of the plutocracy, in favor.

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Speaker 5: Of the billionaires.

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Speaker 10: And there's no evidence that this system is willing to

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Speaker 5: So we'll see not just in the course of this year,

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Speaker 5: but in the course of the whole term hal Foyer term.

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Speaker 5: We will see who wins that in the end.

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Speaker 12: Can you hang over one second? I want to talk

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Speaker 12: At the Christmas dinner that we do every year with

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Speaker 11: Why is this such a Why is this such a

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Speaker 10: Brother, Because only in the secular West is history considered

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Speaker 10: The rest of the world, and especially in the Islamic sphere,

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Speaker 5: Of It's not just yet, it's not just yesterday's politics.

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Speaker 10: It's the directoral arrow that explains where you are, how

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Speaker 10: the New Testament times. They have a history, they have

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Speaker 5: Throughout the culture. So yeah, I mean it was a

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Speaker 5: part of your your T shirt is a provocation.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you know, three con consent, but I don't

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Speaker 10: of two thousand, two and a half thousand practicing Orthodox

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Speaker 10: Christians left is in Istanbul. What I mentioned earlier that

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Speaker 10: the europe is heading to perhaps a Constantinople point rather

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Speaker 10: than a collapse of the Holy Roman Empire. What I

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Speaker 10: what I meant is is a full, full on cultural change.

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Speaker 10: Nature abhors a vacuum, Steve. We've pushed Jesus Christ out

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Speaker 10: of our culture when we haven't been interested in a

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Speaker 10: supernatural set in divine revelation in the true faith, probably

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Speaker 10: since the sixties, not in any serious capacity. And as

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Speaker 10: I say, nature a pause a Valian for the last

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Speaker 10: thirty years, thirty five years. The first is growing religion

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Speaker 10: in the UK is Islam. Whilst we have conceentraally hamstrung ourselves.

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Speaker 10: Islam is growing ever stronger. In fact, it is encouraged

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Speaker 10: by the weakness that we Christians seemingly show at the

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Speaker 10: highest levels. And that is the fate that face is

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Speaker 10: occupied your And I've mentioned this before on the show,

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Speaker 10: and I always say America is not yet in the

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Speaker 10: diet situation that we are in occupied your and I

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Speaker 10: said for our saying again, you.

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Speaker 5: Guys, you can still turn things around, and I don't

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Speaker 5: think we can in Europe.

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Speaker 10: And I always say that fundamentally, what our last I

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Speaker 10: act as a civilization in Europe will be to convince

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Speaker 10: walked down, but to come back to Constantinople.

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Speaker 5: You know, history for.

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Speaker 10: Them isn't isn't just something that happened five years ago.

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Speaker 10: Look when nine to eleven, right, nine eleven, when Olama

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Speaker 10: bin Laden flew those planes open brackets, perhaps with the

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Speaker 10: CIA's help, perhaps with massas help into the print hours,

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Speaker 10: right that date nine to eleven, that represents something Islam.

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Speaker 10: It was the day after Jon Sabyevsky lifted the siege

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Speaker 10: of Vienna. And I think sixteen sixteen eighty three or something.

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Speaker 10: That was the last when the polls lifted the siege

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Speaker 10: of Vienna. That was it for four hundred years. At

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Speaker 10: an institutional level, that was the end of the Islamic

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Speaker 5: Over continental Yurope. And that date by Azama bin Lad was.

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Speaker 10: Picked because I said, in the Islamic sphere, history isn't

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Speaker 10: just something dead and forgotten of interest only to so

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Speaker 10: much school eccentric.

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Speaker 5: It's part of their living identity. And we are we

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Speaker 5: are by not realizing that.

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Speaker 11: We try to do that here in the world, the

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Speaker 11: past is not even the past.

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Speaker 12: If I can draft off one of the great writers

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Speaker 12: in the United States of America, Ben Social media, Where

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Speaker 12: do people get you over the holidays?

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Speaker 10: I am always on Getter Steve as my social media

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Speaker 10: platform of choice, either on Twitter there at Ben Underscore Harnwroll.

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Speaker 10: I might start using that both out a little bit

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Speaker 10: more in twenty twenty five, but fundamentally I'm on Geta

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Speaker 10: at harn Well where I do read. I don't respond,

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Speaker 10: but I do read every comment posted on my stuff

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Speaker 10: on Ghetta. Thanks Steve. Then he closed by wishing you

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Speaker 10: and the war imposse and the great team in the

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Speaker 10: production teams both in DC and in Denver.

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Speaker 5: Very Happy New Year.

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Speaker 11: Happy New Year to you sir in the Eternal City.

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Speaker 5: Thanks brother goodness.

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Speaker 11: Robert Charles is going to take us out next hour.

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Speaker 11: Joe Allen and Rahem are gonna join me.

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Speaker 12: We're gonna mull over some important topics, think some deep thoughts.

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Speaker 12: Has us sound, get yourself a big war? Who a warpath?

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Speaker 12: Coffee right now? Get jacked up like we are. Short

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Speaker 12: commercial break back for the second hours.

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Speaker 7: Just a moment,