1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Thank you Danage on the day, will you get opportunity 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: to game they can play. He don't touchdown Kansas City. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: The Chiefs all right in the thick of it, baby, 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: And welcome once again to another episode of Defending the Kingdom, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: which alters with you the voice of the Chiefs along 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: with the Matt stat himself, senior team reporter Matt McMullen. 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: This episode, as we are nearing the end of the 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: OTAs and getting ready for mandatory minicamp, will be entitled 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: the More you Can do. It is a phrase that 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: has been around the NFL for some time. But if 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: you're a member of Andy Reid's football team and around 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom, no one in the league I think 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: personifies that mantra more than the Kansas City Chiefs. We'll 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: do a deep dive into it, but first the defending 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: the Kingdom ritual here of let's go around the world. 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Let's do it so once again, I have thirteen names 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: and places here, of course, in honor of thirteen seconds. 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: So we have Jason and Warrensburg exactly forty seven miles away, 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: he pointed out, You see him, mules, there we go 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: National champions A few years ago good in baseball. Yeah, 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: Gary in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. We have a listener 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: in Nairobi, Kenya. Yeah, I think it's the first time 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: we've been in Kenya. We have Mike from Saint Joe. 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: We'll see in a about a month. Mike month a 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: month and a half. M Martin from Bathurst, Australia. He 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: says it's Australia's oldest inland city. Pretty cool. So Martin 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: in Australia. We have Leon and Aurora, Colorado, but he's 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: there by way of California. He was there for several 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: years before that, so he's been getting closer exact coming 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: back to us, yeah, but planting his flag and numerous 31 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: spots all over the country. We have Jeannette in South 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: Kansas City, a listener in Topeka, Keith in Tacoma, Washington, 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: Chris and Midtown Kansas City, Darnell and Denver, Jim in 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest. And Bill and McPherson Kansas. McPherson get 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: it right, just saying that first it's my wife's hometown, 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I know, and it's like I no, no, you can, 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: and so she'll always she'll just do it before you 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: see her again, kasten to this. Yeah, the Home of 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: the Bullpups named after General McPherson. The Battle of Atlanta anyway, 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: but McPherson Home of the Bullpups. Great athletes coming out 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: of there, and some NFL players, including guys like Vic 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: Chandler played in the NFL Okay couple of of course 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: hit us both on Twitter here, but there's nothing like 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: Fresno Frasier. Fresno Frasier. Shout out to Fresno Frasier repping 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: the Kingdom of course in the valley at Fresno, California. 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: Love that. And then another one from the is it 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: Chante Durham. He's originally from Kansas City, but he's lived 48 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: in the UK for twenty three years and loves the show. 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: But we know that the UK embraces defending the Kingdom. Yeah, DTK. 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: We had the Arrowheads abroad here back in twenty seventeen. 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: I think some awesome guys. I think a few of 52 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: them are coming back this year. They are what game 53 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: is it? Because they've tried to give the warning to everyone. Yeah, 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: I'll have to ask them. I'm not sure. I'm sure 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: they'll listen to this, but yeah, looking forward to seeing 56 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: them too. Lots of fans in the UK, well, lots 57 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: of fans that are interested in this twenty two Kansas 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: City chief season because we know there has been a 59 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: lot of change. And if you have listener watched the 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Defending the Kingdom's going all the way back to early March, 61 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: you can kind of follow this path. Well now again 62 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: to the last week of the offseason training activities, but 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: next week will be the mandatory minicamp. This week we're 64 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: going to spend on defending the Kingdom. More the more 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: you can do. And you've heard that phrase a lot 66 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: around the National Football League for years, but for the 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs ever since Andy Reid drove into the 68 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs Kingdom and changed everything forever. Wow, Matt, I can't 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: think of every spot on this team, maybe other than 70 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: quarterback fits this because you can't pigeonhole a guy anywhere. 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: To me, because they are challenged to do as much 72 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: as they can possibly do and learn as much as 73 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: they can possibly learn. Yeah, it's really twofold, I think. 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: So if you think about the starters on this team 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: and the players that you see a lot, they have 76 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: to be versatile because coach red at least offensively, wants 77 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: to do a million different things with them. And that's 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: why this offense has been so good and so dangerous 79 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: for years now, is because the players may come and go, 80 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: but he finds a way to take advantage of their 81 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: strengths and numerous ways. So we've seen that for years 82 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: with coach Read and defensively, it's the same way with 83 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: Spags because we always talk about how there's not really 84 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: corners or safeties with the Chiefs, it's defensive backs, and 85 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: that speaks to their versatility. And the other part of 86 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: this is right now, there's ninety guys on the Chiefs roster. 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: They'll go to training camp with ninety guys and you'll 88 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: see in at least the first preseason game a lot 89 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: more guys than what will be here when the season 90 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: rolls around. So how do those guys earn their spots 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: that are at maybe that bottom third of the roster. 92 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: It's being versatile and we've been seeing throughout OTAs and 93 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: we'll see it a mini camp. We'll see it in 94 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: training camp. Guys playing in numerous positions because if you 95 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: can do two or three things pretty well, that might 96 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: earn you a spot when it comes to cut down 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: day in September. We are not kidding about this. In fact, 98 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: earlier during a media session, Chiefs running back former first 99 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: round draft pick Clyde Edwards Hilaire was asked this specific 100 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: question and Clyde articulates it very well. The Chiefs just 101 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 1: start any other team. Everybody brings something different to the table, 102 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: and that's the That's the great thing about this offense 103 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: is you can stick anybody anywhere, and as long as 104 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: we know what we're doing and executing it can it 105 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: can be unmatched depending on you know, as far as 106 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: our matchups. I can line up from in one, two, three, 107 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: spot four and run any any route as far as 108 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: the route tree track can do the same thing from 109 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: NVS to Juju to McCole. So it just shows you 110 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: that we can be as versus high as we want. 111 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: And now everybody just has to play our matchup and 112 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: it's not the same thing that they've been in the 113 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: last six years. Right, So there you go. A running 114 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: back is asked to do so many things. Let's take 115 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. Every wide receiver on this team 116 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: is asked to basically learn three languages in football jargon. 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: You could play the ax or the Z, the split 118 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: in the flanker or the y position or the slot 119 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs. If you're gonna play wide 120 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: receiver for Frandy Reid, you need to know every position. 121 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: You're asked to actually learn Spanish, German, and Greek all 122 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: at the same time. And that's what is interesting about 123 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: the OTAs man. I can't imagine a world without OTAs. 124 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: I know that sounds like old school, But what are 125 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: these other teams doing? Because Andy Reid uses this is 126 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: somewhat of an aptitude test, like an SAT or an 127 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: SAT act to see if, like specifically the wide receivers, 128 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: how much can they handle. Well, there's a reason that 129 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: those other teams aren't playing in the conference title game 130 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: every single year. And obviously the Chiefs are doing that 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: because they have a lot of talent, but also because 132 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: they get on this stuff in May and in June. 133 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: And what co Treat said over and over again is 134 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: they're throwing the book at these guys. I mean, it's 135 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: more stuff than most people can probably handle. But you 136 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: figure out a lot about a player up here in 137 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: their mind when you're throwing the stuff at him over 138 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: and over again, and basically OTAs in mini camp are 139 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: essentially a passing camp. I mean there's no live contact 140 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: going on, so it's essentially all throwing the football, not 141 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: a lot of running going on, and that's a great opport. 142 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: No need to figure out what routes can you run? 143 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: And for all the new receivers that are here on 144 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Now, guys like MVS, Juju sky More and 145 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: a lot of other players that are fighting for a 146 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: roster spot on this team, Guys like Justin Ross or 147 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Justin Watson from Tampa Bay. Lots of exciting players who 148 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: are fighting for a role on this team. How do 149 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: you earn that spot? You find a way to run 150 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: the entire route tree. You find ways to be useful. 151 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: And it's not just on offense either, it's also one 152 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: special teams. And I don't mean just as a kick 153 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: returner or a punt returner. Can you be the gunner 154 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: on special teams? Can you go out there and punt 155 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: coverage and make a tackle? Those kind of things are 156 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: how you earn a role on this team. For maybe 157 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: those guys fighting for a spot, and for the guys 158 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: that we know will be on this team, guys like MVS. 159 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: And Juju and sky More. What kind of routes can 160 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: you run? Like I said, and how can you help 161 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: this offense beyond maybe one role that you're really good at. 162 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: What new things can you learn and help this team? Yeah, 163 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: an MBS. The last session we got to watch, MBS 164 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: had had to make a one handed catch of a 165 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: no look pass from Patrick Mahomes. It's side arm, no look, 166 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: side arm, no look, and he had to make a 167 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: one handed catch and he's and Patrick's not looking at him, 168 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: and it was about a thirty yard pass across the field. 169 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: So that's what you work on an OTAs and to 170 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: skip it, I can't imagine. We're also seeing sky More 171 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: get integrated more to no pun intended because of getting 172 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: his hamstring up and running. You mentioned Juju Smith Schuster 173 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: and your points an interesting one because people always want 174 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: to say how many wide receivers will you keep? Is 175 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: at five or is at six? And when you play 176 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: fantasy football, you're concerned about the War one with a 177 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: War two because you're in the fantasy league and you 178 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: want to beat Gizmo down the street. But for the 179 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, we're not really kind of a Santac 180 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: kind of team like it's the w R. One might 181 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: be Travis Kelsey at tight end, but everybody else. It's 182 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: like spinning a roulette wheel. It could be somebody one 183 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: week and somebody else the next. The other point that 184 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: you make is great that I think fans of overlook 185 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: is if those other three re receivers that aren't out 186 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: there the most of the time, like Juju Smith Schuster 187 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: be excluded, Mark Quisveldo scanlinging him, Icole Hardman. But if 188 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: you are a Justin Watson who's been impressive in OTAs 189 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: or Josh Gordon, you've got to be a special team's contributor. 190 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: There aren't enough guys, and I don't know if fans, 191 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: if let'sten to a deep dive into it, realize it. 192 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: And Corey Coleman, Deres Fountain, Cornell Powell. A lot of 193 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: good solid receivers in this camp and they can't all 194 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: make the team. So if you're in that bottom group, 195 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: you have to find a way to earn your spot 196 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: beyond just offense. And if you're looking at it, roster 197 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: math is fun, particularly roster math in June, because everything 198 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: could change. But there's really four receivers that for sure 199 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: will be on the squad. You have to imagine Juju mvs. 200 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: McColl and sky more. But then there's a lot of 201 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: guys fighting for maybe two spots and you can't earn 202 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: that all on offense because frankly, there's not enough for 203 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: reps to go around for those guys. So you have 204 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: to show on offense, yes, but also, like we've been saying, 205 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: on special teams and other areas, you got to make 206 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: sure you show your worth. And it's gonna be a 207 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: fun battle to keep watching throughout Mini camp. It's been 208 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: fun OTAs already. But you know, a lot of talent 209 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: in this group, and I think it's a good thing 210 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: ultimately as we kind of reshape this receiver corps because 211 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: those guys will be battling for those final spots and 212 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: truly earn them. If you're a receiver, you may have 213 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: to play some running back. If you're running back, we 214 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: just heard from Clyde, you got to run every route 215 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: on the route tree from every slot on the field. 216 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: The other on the offensive side of the ball where 217 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: this fits this in our episodes entitled this Week, the 218 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: more you can do is the offensive line. Okay, do 219 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: the football math here how many offensive linemen you gotta 220 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: keep on the final fifty three ten nine eight. But 221 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: on any given Sunday there are usually just seven offensive 222 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: linemen that are active, meaning you have the five starters 223 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: and then two who are the only backups, and the 224 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: best of those two can play. All five spots enter 225 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: the OTAs. How do the Chiefs approach the OTAs? Go 226 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: back in an earlier episode where we talked about you 227 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: have to get condition to play on this team, and 228 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: not just physically, condition mentally and emotionally conditioned to be 229 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: prepared the way we were, the way we do things 230 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: in the Chief's Kingdom. The offensive line is one of 231 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: the more interesting things to watch do an up close 232 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: look in OTAs and even into training. It really is. 233 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: And a shining example of this over the years is 234 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiley, because think about twenty seventeen. I believe Andrew 235 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: Wiley was a free agent that came to Kansas City 236 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: not with a lot of fanfare, and he was a guard. Well. 237 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: He stuck around for several years playing right guard and 238 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: left guard until the past couple of years. Necessity forced 239 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: him out at right tackle, and he learned how to 240 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: play right tackle to the point where last year he 241 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: played a lot of right tackle for this team and 242 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: was pretty good at it. And he can go out 243 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: there at right tackle and you feel comfortable with Andrew Wiley. 244 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: That's versatility right there. And let me tag that a second. 245 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: I went back and look, he said forty two starts. 246 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he said fifty four starts. He's forty four 247 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: and ten. Forty two starts, fifty four games, twenty five 248 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: starts at right guard, nine at left guard, and also 249 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: eight at right tackle, and the playoffs four at right 250 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: guard and four at right tackle. I mean, it's valuable 251 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: to have that kind of player that can do multiple 252 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: different things and not feel totally uncomfortable out there on 253 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: the outside. So a guy like and ju Wily is 254 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: a great example of why finding versatile players and then 255 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: keeping them and investing in them and empowering them is 256 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: so important. And the guy that we're kind of seeing 257 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: that from right now is nick a Lagretti. So in 258 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: OTAs we've seen nick Alagretti play left guard, center, right guard. 259 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: He's played it everywhere, and they'll rotate him in with 260 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: the ones at times, so he gets comfortable with the 261 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: guys next to him with guys like Joe Tuney around 262 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: him and Creed Humphrey, and that's important. And nick A Lagretti, 263 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean, when you can do this many different things, 264 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: it makes you a valuable contributor to this team because 265 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: we all know over the course of a seventeen game 266 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: season there's gonna be times when guys are banged up. 267 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Austin Ryder is another example. So Austin Ryder has been 268 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: around for a while now. He's a veteran and he's 269 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: been almost exclusively a center, but we've seen him at 270 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: both right and left guard in this campus. See, hey, 271 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: can you play all three interior offensive line spot? And 272 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: that's something to watch going into camp. Another example of 273 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: versatility that just still amazes me is Joe Tuney because 274 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: Joe Tuney is firmly entrenched as a guard in Kansas City. 275 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: But when Orlando Brown Junior got hurt in the first 276 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: Cincinnati game last year, I remember Joe Tuney like playing 277 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: left tackle super well, like against that six players into 278 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: the game and it's like, tune you gotta be left 279 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: amazing and like playing it really well, like against Trey Hendrickson, 280 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushers in the NFL, So 281 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: Joe Tuney, you don't expect him to go out and 282 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: play tackle much, but he can do it really well. 283 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: So just speaks to our point here about how if 284 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: you have versatile offensive lineman who can play multiple positions 285 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: over the course of a long season really comes in handy. 286 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: And again otis are important here in this discussion because 287 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: again it's aptitude testing in a way because coach will 288 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: throw everything at these guys and who can handle it, 289 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: who can handle it at a high level going into camp. 290 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: Tight end also enters this discussion because look at Travis Kelsey, 291 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: the best tight end in National Football League history. You 292 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: and I'll both argue in front of the Supreme Court 293 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: and give our case and we'll win that case. But 294 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: for Travis Kelsey, he lines up as a yio and 295 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: I saw why sometimes as much as thirty percent of 296 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: the time, meaning yes, he's a tight end, a te 297 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: by the number eighty seven, but in truth he's a 298 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver, which is why you and I always answer 299 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: who's the wr on one for your fantasy draft, It's 300 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. So the other tight ends where this is 301 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: a talented group, we've been watching in OTAs they have 302 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: to check the box is can I do that? Whether 303 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: you're a Jody Fortson or you're Noah Gray or Blake 304 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: Bell to some extent in Jordan Franks and Mark Vitel 305 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: the former Baylor Bear basketball player. But in this offense, 306 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: if you're a tight end, you have to also be 307 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. You absolutely have to be. And we've 308 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: seen that with Jody Fortson in the time that he's 309 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: grown over the last several years in Kansas City. It's 310 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: been fun to watch Jody grow from being a UDFA 311 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: out of last state to now growing into a player 312 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: we're excited about going into this season. I think Jody 313 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: was about to have a really nice season last year 314 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: before he got hurt in Washington. I believe, and I'm 315 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: excited about him just watching him out here. He's doing everything. 316 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: Looks healthy, looks good, looks fast. And when you have 317 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: a player like him who can basically run like a 318 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: wide receiver but has the size of a prototypical tight end, 319 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: really tough to defend if you're a defensive coordinator. And 320 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: then it just leaves it up to reps and making 321 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: sure you had the playbook down and you're able to 322 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: do all the different things that Coachree wants you to do. 323 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: I think we're seeing that from Jody so far and 324 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: Noah Gray. What can Noah do in year number two? 325 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: Noah played in sixteen games last year, he was a 326 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: big time special teamer for this group, didn't play a 327 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: ton on offense, had a nice game against the Raiders 328 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: out there in Vegas, had a touchdown catch. But how 329 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: can Noah elevate his game in year two when versatility 330 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: plays into that as well? You still have to block 331 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: with all of that is ask of you as a 332 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: tight end, and there's still traditional tight end responsibilities if 333 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: you're on this roster. Kelsey's shown it the last several years. 334 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: Noah Gray, that's going to be part that we'll watch 335 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: from him going into training camp. Same with Jody Fortune. 336 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: He can, Yes, he's got to be a wide receiver basically, 337 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: but also he has to be able to be an 338 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: in line tight end blocker or you just can't function 339 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: in this offense. Again, the more you can do is 340 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: a big part of the Kansas City chief success in 341 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: the nine years of winning under Andy Reid. Now with 342 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: all that on offense and all that being said of like, Wow, 343 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: Clyde was saying, you gotta know everything in the tree. 344 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: You gotta I gotta know every wide receiver route even 345 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: though I'm a running back. With all that on offense, 346 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: it's maybe more profound on defense with Steve Spagnolo on 347 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: what he has. The Chiefs do some very unconventional things. 348 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: They will play a dime with, oh, three safeties, sometimes 349 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: four safeties. I don't think of any of the team 350 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: in the league that does that. But if you're going 351 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: to do that, you have to have guys that can 352 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: handle it. So let's start back to front here with 353 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: the defensive backs. It's why you got excited and you 354 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: got me on the Brian Cook bandwagon out of the 355 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati. Why Jordan Why? Why? Justin Reid is 356 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: a big ass set in being picked up in free agency. 357 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: Maybe a Deon Bush who the Chiefs picked up from 358 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: the Sense or from the Chicago Bears. Same thing with 359 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: the corners. Like but it's so unique in the way 360 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: we approach our defense. To be a defensive back in 361 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: this defense, you've got to tell basically everything, Are you 362 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: a corner or your safety? You're all of it? You 363 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: and I are both big fans of Incidental A Football 364 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: fourteen the old EA game please brand updated version. Yes, yeah, 365 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: I played on the old Xbox Ory sixty all the time. 366 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: I played a few nights ago. Actually a lot of fun. 367 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: Georgia State, that's your team, Indiana now Indiana, and I 368 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: took over. I took over you know, a team that's 369 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: not very good in a big conference. But yeah, I 370 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: led Georgia State to a national title. There's a statue 371 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: of be down there. Anyway, it's besides the point. The 372 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: point is to play a little more realistically than you do. 373 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: But that you do, that's indeed, um. But the point 374 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: is they have all those different defensive formations on there, right, 375 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: And the things that Spags does you can't find you 376 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: in the playbook. You know, I'll look for it and 377 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. Shows how unique a lot of his 378 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: coverages are. And we see stuff at practice we're like, oh, 379 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: I've never seen that before, and we've been watching him 380 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: for years now. But having versatile players on the back 381 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: end allows him to do that. And one thing I 382 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: find interesting is how we rotate guys both outside in 383 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: the slot in terms of corners typically so like Lagarius 384 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: sneed turned into one of the best slot corners in 385 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: all of football, but he can also play outside if needed. 386 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: I think trym McDuffie has a very similar skill set 387 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: where he can be an outside corner but also play 388 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: in the slot if you want to. We've seen DiCaprio 389 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: Bootle utilized in that role as well if needed. And 390 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: also he of course contributes on special teams. I think 391 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: Deon Bush, you mentioned him at safety, is going to 392 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: have a bigger role on this defense that people may realize. 393 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: But he's also a four core special teamer most likely 394 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: on this team, really showing off on special teams. If 395 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: you're one of those guys, a guy like Deon Bush 396 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: who can play defense, you know he can, but if 397 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: you can also be a four core special teamer makes 398 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: you so valuable to this group. And Nazi Johnson, the 399 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: seventh round pick at a Marshall interested to see what 400 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are able to do with him. He is 401 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: one of the guys listed as a true defensive back. 402 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: He's not a corner or a safety, he's both. I 403 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: think he played primarily safety at Marshall, but play some 404 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: corner out here. He's also a guy that I'm looking 405 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: at can you be a gunner? Can you go make 406 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: a play on punt coverage? So we'll see what happens 407 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: with these guys, But a lot of athletes, I think 408 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: on the back end for the Chiefs, which is just 409 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: great news because they've really Everyone talks about how we've 410 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: remade our receiver corps, but we've really remade our dB 411 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: room in a lot of ways. It's young, as athletic, 412 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: and it's long, and really excited to see it grow 413 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: here over the next several months. The dbs and you 414 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: alluded to it very much like the wide receivers. If 415 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: you're going to be on this list, whether you're an 416 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: S or a CB or really you gotta be both. 417 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: You have to be a special team's contributor, even if 418 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: you're a starter. We have seen that happen with Dave Tobe. 419 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: So that discussion, how many you keep five corners for safeties? 420 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: Do you keep six over four? That decision usually means 421 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: at the second half of that group, you have to 422 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: be a four core special teamer. Speaking of dbs, let's 423 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: pull off here on the side of the road for 424 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: just a second because it was exciting earlier here in 425 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom because Brandon Flowers two thousand and eight 426 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: draft pick for the Kansas City Chiefs, eighty eight games 427 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: is a Chief six years, seventeen interceptions, is a Chief 428 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: pro bowler, famous, of course for the pick six against 429 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: the Raiders, running into the black hole when they were 430 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: playing back in Oakland and putting his foot up on 431 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: the football and given the double flex. If you can 432 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: find that photo, count the birds in that photo and 433 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: it's not the Birds of Capistrano. We'll just leave it 434 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: at that. Very interesting reaction from the folks in the 435 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: black hole on that pick six. But for beat Out Flowers, 436 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: it was great to see him and he retired as 437 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: a Chief. So cool that he was here today and 438 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: got to retire as a Chief. Because I think about 439 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: Brandon Flowers. I talked to you about this earlier. It's 440 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: im twenty nine years old. The first team that was 441 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: really my Chief's team was like Trent Green, Priest Holmestante Hall, 442 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Eddie Kennison, all those guys. But the first team that 443 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: I watched where I truly felt like I knew what 444 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: was going on was like Brandon Flowers, Eric Barry, Derry Johnson, 445 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: Tom Bahali, those guys Jamal Charles and see them come 446 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: through to see Brandon Flowers, who was so good in 447 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: his time here. I mean from twenty two thirteen. He 448 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: was one of only two players with ninety or more 449 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: passes defense, fifteen or more interceptions, and ten or more 450 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: tackles for loss. Just a really solid player that was 451 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: really good for a long time here. And to have 452 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: him honored in this way I think was really special. 453 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: His family was here, he is family to us in 454 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom had a chance to chat with Brandon Flowers. 455 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: All right, now a little bit of a turn in 456 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: this episode of Defending the Kingdom because we welcome back 457 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: for his official retirement here. One of my favorite players 458 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: in my brief twenty nine years would be in the 459 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: voice to the Chiefs b Dot himself. Brandon Flowers. First 460 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: of all, congratulations on a moment of coming back home. 461 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: So you're thoughts on getting back into this building and 462 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: seeing everybody. It feels so good, you know, just pulling 463 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: up to the stadium give you chills, you know, just 464 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: thinking about the war, chance of seeing everybody that I 465 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: missed for so long, coming in the locker room and 466 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: seeing that sea of red feeling that sea of red 467 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: made me just want to suit a one more time 468 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: to put it in that red. But that's just what 469 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: this building due to you. You know, it's a special place. 470 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: We're all about family here, great fan base, it's this 471 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: is a special just community all in one when you 472 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: talk about the Kansas City Chiefs. So I definitely appreciate 473 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: it everything throughout my years here, and I'm even more 474 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: appreciative just coming back and just soaking it in nine 475 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: year NFL career six with the Chiefs Pro Bowl. You're 476 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. But here's your stat for this episode. Eighty 477 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: eight regular season games with the Chiefs, seventeen interceptions. That 478 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: means one in every five games. B Dot was having 479 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: the pick. But the most famous pick six you ever had? 480 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: What about the one against the Raiders? And now there's 481 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: one of the great photos in Chiefs Kingdom history. Have 482 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: you've given the double flex in front of the black hole? Oh? Man, 483 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: that was one of my favorite It has to be 484 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: my favorite play, you know in uniform, just on the road. 485 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: You know, whenever a player plays on the road, it's 486 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: just something special about hearing booze and when you make 487 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: a play, just how the crowd just have to look 488 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: at you. But doing it against the Oakland Raiders before 489 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: they moved to La It's just I meant the Vegas. 490 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: It was just so surreal. You know. I pictured that 491 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: interception just all in the pregame because it was on 492 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: that play. I knew if they came in this formation, 493 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: they ran this route, I was going with it. So 494 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: just to see it all come to fruition. And when 495 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: I got to the end zone the night before, I'm like, listen, 496 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: if I get this interception, I'm definitely standing on the football. 497 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Hayden's gonna have to be mad because I'm gonna get 498 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: a flag and I'm gonna flex into this black hole. 499 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: And then it was worth it. Todd even told me, 500 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: I'll take that fifteen yards if you go get a 501 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: touchdown for me. But just to see the Raider's reaction 502 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: when I did that, I know extuned them deep. So 503 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: that made me feel a little bit more better. You know. 504 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: After I did it. There were a lot of birds 505 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: in this photo, but it wasn't the birds like the 506 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: Audubon Society. We'll just leave it at that. But what 507 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: an incredible career and the fact that you were really 508 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: trained for this. Let me let me ask you this too. 509 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: When the Chiefs one Super Bowl fifty four is ironic 510 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: because it happened in Miami, and at the end of 511 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: that game, there was guys that were fleshing in front 512 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: of my face that I'm thinking, I hope they feel this. 513 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: So it was in your home area where you grew up. 514 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: Did you feel a part of that championship. I definitely 515 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: felt a part of it. And I actually was at 516 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: the stadium. I actually was calling a game from a 517 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: net for a network in London, so I actually in 518 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: the press box and the whole time I was just like, 519 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: they gotta get this done. They have to get this day. 520 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: And once they got it done, when they ran on 521 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: the field, I've seen the confetti come out. I was 522 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: just smiling from it to air. It literally felt like 523 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: I was on the field. I talked to DJ after 524 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: and a couple of guys and they felt the same 525 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: way that, Like, listen, that was our championship. Also, you 526 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: know from the blood, it's what the tears we put 527 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: into it. We were so happy for the Chiefs to 528 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: get that ring, and we definitely felt like we are 529 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: a part of that, you know, championships, So we're definitely 530 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: proud about that. One of the things we're doing on 531 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: this episode is talking about how the NFL has evolved 532 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: and how, you know, what more can you do? What 533 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: have you noticed in the game? And you played corner, 534 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: but even at that corner position, you have to play 535 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: the slot. You gotta play the outside, you gotta play man, 536 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: you gotta play zone, you gotta play all these techniques. 537 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: What have you seen from the corner position of the 538 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: last several years, And what would you tell Chiefs Kingdom 539 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: fans going in because we got some young corners, you know, 540 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: be patient with the corners you have, especially why they're young, 541 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: because it's obviously from my time coming into the league 542 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: until now, the passing game has evolved so much and 543 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of great quarterbacks. When I play, you 544 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: probably had four or five great quarterbacks. With now it's 545 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: like they're coming into the league and they can be 546 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: so efficient. So playing cornerback is tough right now, especially 547 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: when you're playing outside inside and having a guy like 548 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes that puts up points. The opposing team has 549 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: to throw the ball a lot more so if you 550 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: do not, if you don't feel like you have a 551 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: lockdown cornerback. It's not because you don't. It's because they're 552 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: getting more opportunities to throw the ball because Patrick Mahomes 553 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: is always going up on that scoreboard, so a team 554 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: always have to throw the ball to come back in. 555 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: And you want to bend but not break defense, you know, 556 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: letting them just drive the ball, spend six minutes just 557 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: moving the ball, moving the ball, and then hold them 558 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: to a field goal because it's not an individually stacked game. 559 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: Is a team game, So letting them waste their time, 560 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: let them kick a field goal. PADDI go put seven 561 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: on the board. So don't worry about if you have 562 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: young corners and they're giving a couple of passes up here. 563 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: And then family has always been so important to you. 564 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: As excited as I was to see you, it's excited 565 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: to see your family because it was just my life 566 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: was flashing in front of me, seeing your dad and 567 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: your sister and your whole family. What was the chief 568 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: family like for you and what it means not just 569 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: your biological family, but your tree family. You know. When 570 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: we pulled up to the facility yesterday, we went to 571 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: the pro shop and the first thing my dad said, 572 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: was this is home. This is family right here, and 573 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: that's special. It's not just me as the player that 574 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: feels like this place is special in this home, but 575 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: when your family and your parents have that same feeling. 576 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: As soon as we pulled up, Mitch and he's seeing you, 577 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: was like, oh, my guy, Mitch, and it's like, you're 578 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: such a great guy. You make not just only the 579 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: players feel like they're welcome and they're appreciated, but when 580 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: you take it a step further and our families feel 581 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: that way when they see you, Mitch, and how you're 582 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: so humble and you say, I've been here briefly twenty 583 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: nine years, Like, no, you're a big part of this franchise. 584 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: You're a key piece to this franchise. So for the 585 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: fact that you make us feel this way, he goes 586 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: a long way. Finally, what are you doing now? Because 587 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: you were being an analyst? You said you did Super 588 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty four. What's on your play now? So now 589 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: I took a break from being in the booth, being 590 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: in break, taking a break from being an analyst, so 591 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: now getting into acting full time. You know, sometimes as athletes, 592 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: we work so hard to be great at one thing. 593 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: We think we can be great at everything, but starting 594 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: a new career is tough. But the thing about being 595 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: an athlete, we are perfectionists, you know. We always want 596 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: to be the best at whatever we do. So right 597 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: now just taking all the strives to be like one 598 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: of the top actors in the world. So hopefully you'll 599 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: see me on the screen coming song. Always in the 600 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: Hearts of the Chiefs Kingdom forever, recently retired, but forever 601 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: a chief. Brandon Flowers aka b Dot so be dot 602 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: always in the Hearts of the Chief's Kingdom forever. Three 603 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: years with the Chargers. We kind of overlooked that and 604 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: he is too apparently, yeah he is too because he'd 605 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: returned as a chief. But it's great to see him. 606 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: All right, as we close things out on this edition 607 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: of Defending the Kingdom talking about the more you can do, 608 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: we do want to hit the other defensive parts here 609 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: because it's not just physically in getting tested here. Remember 610 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: the OTAs or the act and the sat for this 611 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: football roster from coach Read heading out those tests who 612 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: can handle it And to me, one very interesting thing 613 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: to watch, and you know I've been watching this for 614 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: weeks now is Nick Bolton, the second year linebacker, What 615 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: a great rookie year he had, in many ways historic. 616 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: The former Missoo Tiger now wears the green dot. That 617 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: means he's getting the calls from the sideline and trying 618 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: to get that to everybody else. So although essentially his 619 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: sophomore year in the NFL, he's being treated as a senior. 620 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: So I asked him thirty minutes ago during his presser. 621 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: Last year, around this time, you had just been drafted, 622 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: You had just figured out what team you're going to, 623 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: You're figuring out where you're going to live, you're figuring 624 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: out the playbook, all this stuff. How much more comfortable 625 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: do you feel now a year later that you're coming 626 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: into OTAs and yeah, you're learning a new position, but 627 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: you know everything else. You know your teammates, you know 628 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 1: where the cafeteria is, you know all this stuff. And 629 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: he's like it's a full one eighty, like it couldn't 630 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: be any different from And I think that's going to 631 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: empower him to really thrive in this new role. He 632 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: was just awesome last year when given opportunities. I think 633 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: everyone would agree with that. He got better as the 634 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: year went on. We knew that he would be just 635 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: a bowling ball against the run, But as the year 636 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: went on, if you look at Pro Football Focus numbers, 637 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: he got better and better against the past as the 638 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: season went on, to the point where he was pretty 639 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: good against it late in the season. And now as 640 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: the Mike, that's what he's going to be this season. 641 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: Not only do you have to keep building on that, 642 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: you have to make sure that you are the quarterback 643 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: of the defense in so many ways, and just based 644 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: on what we know about Nick, he's so ready for 645 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: that role. It is a new bunch of stuff for 646 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: him to learn, but I think he's digesting it really 647 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: well and looking great so far during these practices. And remember, 648 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: in this defense, this is not college algebra. This is 649 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: series and differential equations. And so to be the middle 650 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: linebacker of this team and where that green dot, you've 651 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: got to know the language better than anybody else and 652 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: be the best mathematician on the team. Finally, we'll close 653 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: it out the defensive line and do this quickly. George 654 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: Karloft is actually fits this discussion. I think the more 655 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: you can do, but we've seen guys and spags will 656 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: do this. Guys, Chris Jones, guys moving outside, guys moving inside. 657 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: It's like you can't pigeonhold a guy into saying he 658 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: does this in this defense, or you'll see him move 659 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: around three plays later. And Mike Danna is a good 660 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: example of that. So last year we saw Spags do 661 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: this with Mike Danna. Mike Dana is a defensive end, 662 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: but he has the flexibility to also play inside, particularly 663 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: maybe in a passing situation when you want to have 664 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: a lot of edge rushers out there on the field 665 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: in terms of their skill set at once. We've seen 666 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: that with Mike Danna playing some inside as well as outside, 667 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: and Tresham Wharton last year. Haven't seen much of it 668 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: this year, but last year at times he would go 669 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: from being an interior defensive lineman too playing off the edge. 670 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: So if you have athletic players that can do different 671 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: things for you up front, it just makes your defense 672 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: that much more dangerous. I think about with Spags and 673 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: his defense that beat Tom Brady in two thousand and seven, 674 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: the team that went what eighteen and one Spags defense 675 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: would He'd run the four aces defense with four edge 676 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: rushers all along the defensive line. That was a course 677 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: an all time defense, but just shows how creative he's 678 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: going to get and we're seeing that at times out 679 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: here at practice. Yeah, if you're gonna have those four races, 680 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: you have to have kings and jacks, is what the 681 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: Chiefs are trying to build with this twenty twenty two defense. 682 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: You talk about Turk Wharton, remember the Venus flytrap interception 683 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: against the Washington Commanders where he just grabbed it out 684 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: of the sky. He's got that ability. Not the guy 685 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: to kind of sneaky. Here is Joshua Kando. He's gonna 686 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: be one that you know watched during mandatory mini camp 687 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: and during training camp in Saint Joe. He's Matt steat. 688 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: He is senior team reporter, Matt McMullen. You know him 689 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: and you love him. I Mitch holds the voice of 690 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Remember in the National Football League, especially with 691 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, it's the more you can do, 692 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: touch down down and the celebration begins in their hand.